The Emerging Future Human! With Regina Meredith

Regina Meredith 0:00

You know, it's just a frequency game. The consciousness is active, it's moving, and you can choose how you're going to respond to it. It's not just going to upgrade everything first. It's going to create a lot of chaos and confusion. And that's a really big problem on the planet right now. Just searching for truth is very difficult right now. So they said another version of Earth had been created in a slightly different dimensional field, and then they later confirmed that, and said; This is a very important lifetime for people with the new consciousness, the new energy coming in that anything you have that's unresolved, resolve it with love. Do the very best you can, because many of the people we know and have encountered within our lifetimes will not be coming back here. Incarnation, even familial incarnation, patterns are broken. They've been broken up now.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:53

Could you reveal a little bit about what's to come? And we know it's going to be a chaos a few years after that, like the new human, who is that? Whoa. What does that look like?

Regina Meredith 1:05

They said, one example you could turn to, because these things don't come out of nowhere. They come out of memory, is the movie Avatar.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:19

Regina Meredith, a warm welcome to the show.

Regina Meredith 1:23

Thank you so much, Jannecke.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:25

I'm thrilled to be having you. You are one of my role models. I've been following you for years. You have interviewed over 1000 thought leaders, and you are the famous host of Open Minds on Gaia, and you have vast experience with being a news anchor. You've been on NBC, PBS, and now you're coming out with a new book, The future human together with Lee Harris, that I'm also going to interview, where he has channeled disease, and I'm super excited to die really metaphysical today, because your knowledge is vast. I mean, I've seen so many interviews with you, with different thought leaders, and also interviews with you yourself, and videos that you make yourself, and I just feel there's such a depth to your knowledge. So an hour is not enough, but let's just dive into it, right? So the book is about the future human and new ways of being and living on Earth, and I'm thinking, before we go there, to the shift of consciousness and what we're experiencing now, I would love to hear your perspective on actually who we are. So let's go back like, who are we as a human species? Because I believe that what is in the history books that I learned in school is not necessarily correct.

Regina Meredith 2:59

Well, I think that's fair to say, that's probably the one thing we can rely on. Now, beyond that, there are so many different versions and visions and remembrances, depending on which culture, which era of history you live in as to our origin story. Another time, if you like, we can do an interview, and I will share with you the origin story that I was given by my soul group, probably 40 years ago, little over 40 years ago now, which to me resonated very, very powerfully in the sense that when I share it with other people, which I didn't, I did not share that for many years. When I share it, people often start crying. That means they're sensing some truth in it. And what it does is it allows all the other stories to be true, or in part or fully. So for me, the human species, I have a little different idea of it. And I will just, in very, very brief tell you what that is and it does, over overlay with Edgar Casey's work about where we came from, who we are, how we were established as human beings. And that is that we were already, and there's most of the soul, not all, but most of the people that are now embodied on Earth were at one time in a higher dimension. And my my soul group is very careful not to use hierarchy. It was a different dimension, but it was a less dense, very highly intelligent, highly creative beings that they said, if you were able to see them, it would be just a shimmer out of the corner of your eye. So very little physicality. But it could be argued, there's no physicality to us either, as you know, through the lens of quantum physics. So they're even less so. So a less dense field, and that the beings there were not only highly intelligent, but they were able to create at the speed of thought. So there was not the resistance of. Time, this kind of density, gravity, time, everything that we deal with in the third dimension on Earth didn't exist there, but it was another dimension of Earth. This dimension, the lower, denser dimension, was formed later, not the other way around. And so it's a little different lens to look through. And if you want to do that full story sometime, I find it fascinating, and we'll see how you and your viewers relate to it. But in short, there ended up a time where the best they said, you would call it the most advanced species on Earth. At that time, very similar to what we are now. It was a distant there are many creations, Neanderthal, you know, Othello, pick I always get, I always screw up on that word, so let's just forget it. But anyway, then the modern, modern homo sapien and others that we don't even know of were developed. They were separate species. And then there were, of course, the primates. They said you would view it as a very, very, very, very distant, genetically cousin of the primate species, but it's not from that species per se. And they said, and I said, Well, I asked them at the time, well, what, what did they appear like? And they said, actually, very similar to what you are now, the original Human was very similar to what we are. It was the most advanced, the most had the highest IQ at the time, and had, of course, all of these facilities for sensing the world. And the proposal comes and so it was agreed that those higher dimensional beings, through a strange situation, would merge with the most advanced human what became the human being, human species, body. And so the story itself is beautiful. It's fascinating. There were no there was no crime. There was no one trying to take advantage of anyone. It did. It wasn't like that in the very beginning. And that brings us to the notion that beings of many kinds have been here also since the beginning, because a lot of help was needed once that merging happened, essentially, you took a very advanced, highly creative soul and merged with this animal being, which has mortality and fear to in order for its own survival. It has the fear mechanism going to stay away from danger that wasn't part of the original template, and it wasn't intended to take over. And so what we are now is we've long forgotten that amazing capability we had back then. It was intended that coming together as the two in this way would be an incredibly interesting species. Wasn't by design. It was sort of an experiment, you might say. So disease get around to talking about this as well, saying it had been hoped that the human species living in this density with this creativity, this kind of sensorial ability to feel the world around us, was going to be a template with that would be used throughout the universe. And I think that's still what they like they think will happen. We've had some interference to keep us stamped down for a very long time, many 1000s of years, and that's that's coming to an end. So that's beautiful.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:26

Wow. How long ago are we speaking about? Because I know also you've had some memories from Atlantis through a progression you had with Dolores Cannon. And I wish I had the chance to interview her, but she sadly passed away. So is this like before, Atlantis, like way before, or this? Is it a comment?

Regina Meredith 8:47

I think the I think the interference that they're talking about now was more from Atlantean times than Lemurian times. Oh, there. There are some regresses that are saying there was also interference, beginning even in Lemurian times, but certainly since Atlantean times. I think if we keep in mind that many different species have walked this earth. This is our planet. This is the human beings planet. But many have come here throughout the ages in the earth's history, which is vast, and have had a hand in some a lot of genetic, you know, upgrading engineering that happened toward the beginning. Some genetic downgrading happened the further we went in with different types of species visiting this place and choosing to use us rather than help us expand to our fullest. And many people talk about that. I mean, that's that's been around the Z said for many, many 1000s of years. So that would go back to Atlantis for sure.

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Regina Meredith 11:44

No, I think the evidence is there. I mean, they've even started discovering it in our DNA. But the ones who have, I this is terrible, all right, it's derogatory, I'll admit it. But the ones that people call the elite are the ones I call the bottom feeders. I've inverted the pyramid to put us at the top, all of our creativity, love, capability, all of the endeavors we do in life, the earth itself, all of this is actually at the top of the pyramid. So my pyramid is inverted and goes down to the tiny few who have been taking advantage of the human species for many, many 1000s of years. Now, I will say this. I've spoken to, you know, a lot of soul groups, such as disease. I've spoken to many others and psychics and my own soul group, and it's interesting that until very recently, they don't like putting a name, a label or a face on these beings. And I think it was for good reason, honestly, now that that hold is beginning to end, because the nature of consciousness itself, as it says in the beginning of the book, has shifted so radically and is moving so fast that the old structures can't be contained anymore, and that that's that's what I love about this book. It's so beautiful that they're very clear that if they try to continue to dampen down our capabilities, our connection with each other, our ability to access abundance on all levels, the Earth would implode. Their exact words were, the Earth would implode before that could ever happen. So that means it is drawing to a close. So anyway, in terms of keeping that information silent and secret and away from everyone you're talking about, beings that are hidden you don't know their names or their faces, a species above those beings that have not had our best interest at heart. And it's that kind of universal axiom that you can't interfere with a developing species, as you're well aware. Yes, that's true. We have beautiful beings here surrounding every one of us, speaking to us, tapping us on the shoulder, trying to get our attention all the time. It's not as though there's a shortage of wonderful, very highly, advanced and refined help. It's all around us. But it can't play unfairly. The ones who have been here and taken advantage of humans are those who don't play by those rules, and they'll have their own karma to pay at some point.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:31

All right, so I thought at first you were speaking about humans actually, but you're speaking about other

Regina Meredith 14:39

and then they go are in companionship with humans. Remember, it takes a human who can resonate with their frequencies, and those frequencies are based on a desire for power and control, and oftentimes greed accompanies that. So you have a strata of what we call the. Elite who pretty much manage the whole show so that they win, they always win, and everybody else gets whatever trickle down effect is left. Those are the humans. But those humans do answer to the other beings at a certain level. Below that are the people that you see in the news that we we consider the elites. Yeah, people with money and power, with faces that we see in our media, though there there are a few levels down.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:30

Wow, interesting when you say you speak with your own soul group. Could you share your perspective on what a soul group is, and how do you communicate with your soul group?

Regina Meredith 15:41

Well, I think all of us have a soul group, and we also we have group of souls that we incarnate with as humans, that there's that type of soul group. When people talk about soul groups or tribes, generally, they're talking about the group of beings that incarnate on Earth, that they perpetually incarnate with that's that's a pattern that most human beings participate in. Sometimes we'll jump out of a soul group and we'll try something else, try a different DNA line for a while, and maybe change completely if we've learned all we can from a soul group that I think is the more common understanding of what a soul group is. But I'm actually speaking to the beings from my home domain. As you know, none of us. We're all hybrids of one kind or another, even though ensue were from the other dimension of Earth, have been tinkered with a bit. So when I say soul group, I'm speaking about the beings that I have, the place I came from, the beings that are always with me throughout all incarnations,

Jannecke Øinæs 16:42

and have you always communicated with them, or is this something you have opened up to, perhaps on your journey being an interviewer?

Regina Meredith 16:51

No, not being an interviewer. I was doing at the time. I became familiar with them. I was a news anchor and living a more traditional life. I'd had experiences, metaphysical, paranormal experiences occur, but I didn't think much of it, really. And then I encountered a woman. I saw her picture in a metaphysical kind of newspaper, so to speak, that was circulating around Sacramento at the time. And in truth, I was looking for my mantra. I had friends that were into Tm, and I thought, I need to meet somebody that can give me my mantra. And so I found a picture of a man with a turban on named Siri. And I thought, oh, maybe, maybe this is the one. And then my eyes immediately fell into the picture below, which had the eyes of this woman, and I was sucked into her eyes. And thought, I don't know who she is or what she does, but I have to meet her. And that became the beginning of my reconnection, on a conscious level, with my soul group, because she was one of them, too, and she was channeling. And this was at a time when channeling was just coming up. Most people hadn't heard of it. I hadn't heard of it. We're talking maybe 43 years ago when we first met. And so this was something that was kind of the Wild West. You had Jay Z Knight and the romp the group Bucha came up around that time. So it was the very kind of beginning of modern time channeling as we know it. This is not to disregard all of the incredible work that esoteric work being done in the 20s and 30s as well. That was a very rich time, late 1800s even. But this was the beginning of modern channeling. So sorry, that's where I met them.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:43

And would you say that you are channeling? Or how are you hearing them? Or how do you know

Regina Meredith 18:49

I'm I'm not. And so the the woman with the eyes that I had to meet the description underneath, said she was a channeler and learn about your past lives and all. And I thought, fine, I just have to meet her. So when I went, it was a very different kind of channeling than what you normally see. She was in a chair leaned back, and if you didn't know she was alive, you'd think she was dead. There was no you could hardly see her breathing, and she was, she was out somewhere else. I learned that in a very short period of time, because we're from the same place. So I started learning the process. She had to go through a series of symbols out to another dimension, or sub dimension, of Earth, and then those beings could come and meet with her there, but they couldn't meet with her all the way in here, like the beings today. Just kind of come in through the person and you know, you close your eyes, take your breath, and that's it. That's not the nature with these beings. You can't go to them easily. I can't summon them when I want to. They're always with me, but to communicate with. To me, has to be specific circumstances where they can get in through all of this. And so normally, at the least opportune times, I'll suddenly feel this black blanket coming over me where I'm almost becoming unconscious, and I'll think, Oh, my God, they're here, and I might be driving, so I have to pull over fast so I can listen. So it's not your normal kind of channeling at all, and she was very good. She doesn't channel anymore. She's quite elderly. But I have to say those were some of the most fascinating days of my entire life because of the quality of the information about the universe and the formation of earth and everything that they brought through. Now, part of it is I was young and eager and excited. Part of it is that the quality of information is almost unmatched,

Jannecke Øinæs 20:55

interesting, yeah, because, as an interviewer myself, I'm curious of the vast knowledge you've had, if that's mostly from your own experience or mostly from those you have interviewed, and then you sort of make up your own view of the nature of reality.

Regina Meredith 21:15

Yeah, it's probably, it's a combination. A lot of it is the base of knowledge I learned from my soul group, because I had access to them, free access to them, to ask pretty much anything I wanted through the channeler for a good decade, and it was not really made public. There was one little obscure book, and I just sat with it, because oftentimes I'll be they'll share something, and then it might take five or 10 years before the second piece of that comes in. So it's a process that's really a lifetime journey that requires a great amount of patience, but in the interim, what I did learn to do was speak to my higher mind and a couple of other guides consciously, so I can do that. So if I'm doing something where there's a, say, a transmission of some kind that I've gotten in meditation, they'll usually say, get your computer. And I'll do automatic writing, because normally I don't, I don't really save things. I i just take it in and roll it around and forget about it or incorporate it depends. But if there's something important that they want me to keep and if I choose to share it, then they want me to write it down. So every now and then they do say, please get your computer before we start this. And so when I say, we I don't really try to look at I know that. I know I have an array of guides, and I don't ask which one of you is speaking to me. And oftentimes, to be perfectly frank, and I think it's the same with everyone. You can't distinguish that between your higher mind, if your higher minds been around for a while, if your soul has been around for a while, at your higher mind is connected to soul, and that's connected to essentially all so if that's the case, I oftentimes may be actually experiencing my own Higher Mind. It can feel like a separate entity. And I think a lot of people who are channeling are actually experiencing their higher mind. And you know what? That's perfectly legit. It is a higher aspect of our intelligence that is connected more to source. So, you know, people can call it Intuit intuition, psychic phenomena, channeling. Call it whatever you want. It's down to the quality of the information and how that information makes you feel. That's what matters, not who people feel they're chatting with.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:45

That makes sense. I'm going to circle over to, or maybe back a bit, to humanity and where we're going. And the book is about that the future human. And I thought it was interesting. You said in another video that there are many dimensions of Earth. Could you share what you mean by that?

Regina Meredith 24:09

Well, I was just giving you an example a little bit ago about the beings that became what we call the human species. They already existed in another dimension of Earth. There are higher dimensions of Earth and lower dimensions of Earth. Some people call these planes, some people call these realms. Some people call them dimensions. And these words have all become conflated. And for all practical purposes, it doesn't matter there are different degrees of density that by design, it's important that they are sectioned off from each other through frequency. You can say, if you go to this frequency, people always use the old adage of, you know, turning your radio dial, that's fair enough. It's a good enough one. So if you're dialing your frequencies up this. A little bit, you'll be able to tap into the beings who are in that realm, and others, others who are here helping. There are beings from all over here helping, but other beings who are kind of Guardians of Earth, information and knowledge. You can tap into those higher frequencies in meditation. You can feel the shift that's happening often, inside your head, inside your heart, and that's a really critical part of where we're going. And you can feel these frequencies starting to shift. Maybe you start kind of going into an altered state, that is, you connecting in with beings from another dimension. They're not in this one or you'd be able to see them. That's what's interesting. You can't see what's not in your dimension, right? Unless you're very good, and if you're a very good psychic, you can see into other near dimensions. Yes, you can. But for most people, it's very practical. Can you imagine you could have an entire universe that exists in the palm of your hand in another dimension, and you could have it literally nestled 100 dimensions, where you are right now, in terms of other other civilizations living within their well, their dimensional fields. And I say 100 I'm I just threw that out. I don't know how many dimensions there actually are, but we know there are at least 13. But can you imagine what would happen if we could literally see and experience other dimensions. We'd go mad. We couldn't exist. We wouldn't even be able to find ourselves. There would be so much noise going on if we were able to always see into other dimensions. So the dimensions have a very specific way of cordoning us, embracing us a container to hold us within the realm we're in at the moment, the density we're in at this moment. And most people have been in other densities, like most of the Earth beings, this contains us in this one to have these experiences, to learn these things, and to have this beautiful planet to play with.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:58

So the astral realm, is that, for instance, one of these dimensions, or is it more like there are many earths, and then they these Earths have different dimensions. I like visualize this. And when Dolores Cannon started to speak about two Earths, I was actually thinking two different Earths, and some will go there, and some will go there, and they would have their own astral plane and other dimensions. But I don't know if I have it all wrong.

Regina Meredith 27:31

Oh no, no, no. I mean I, I will tell you what my soul group told me 40 years ago, and this was before I'd heard it anywhere else. Dolores hadn't started tapping into that yet. So that means it's in the field, because her people were getting it too. But my soul group told us that we are now experiencing a two Earth scenario, and they explained it very simply and clearly, and they said it had been known for a very long period of time that this time on Earth would approach, and when it did, because of the nature of the species, and there's no judgment on this, some people would be able to learn and wake up faster. Some would be slower. And if you're in a place that has such extremes, it's no longer serving either. There's when you're trying to learn the most refined lessons, and someone else is learning that it's best not to murder or rape or pillage. These are very different lessons and packages of what shall we say, frequencies. And they said the time would come when another Earth had been formed already, and that people would begin incarnating onto one Earth or the other, depending on their frequencies. And they said again, frequencies are just frequencies. You can raise them. You can lower them by your own choice, by your own learning. And that if you had not learned, they call always called them the baby lessons, like rape and murder are kind of baby lessons. There are no notes here that said, if you hadn't learned these things and just being cruel in general, which lowers your frequency, then that frequency would tend to populate together on one earth and the others who are learning to really try not to even feel envy anymore. It would be a different level of human learning that's still going on, but might not be quite as dangerous, and the frequencies might not be as saturated you go on to learn on the other Earth. So the big question is, which worth earth are we on Right? Which I always found fascinating, and because finally, I'd never asked, I went in and meditated later on it and realized, wait a minute, this Earth is changing frequencies, the the consciousness as the first chapter of the book. This is trippy, by the way, I've got to share. This with you. The first chapter of the book talks about consciousness, that the consciousness that's been the fabric of our reality has changed, and that people are having a difficult time mentally being able to grok what's going on and keep up with it, because the consciousness is moving faster than the human mind is capable for the most part. I'm sure there are exceptions of moving and so this is this a lot of the disorder, disorientation we're feeling right? So the consciousness of Earth is what's happening throughout the cosmos. It's sweeping through the cosmos. All the other planets in our system and beyond are also being moved by this new wave of consciousness, which is more refined. It's moving into greater capacity. It's higher consciousness, not lower. So the earth herself is moving with this. If one can't stay frequency wise with the earth and where she's going. You can't incarnate here. You know, it's just a frequency game vibration, whichever you want to call it. If you can vibrate, you can go there. If you can vibrate, you can go there, and vice versa. So they said another version of Earth had been created in a slightly different dimensional field, so that the groups of people learning little finer lessons versus challenging wouldn't have to be slowed down by each other. You'd be more with like minded souls, where you can learn more quickly. So the idea being, and because I had asked about, what is the earth here, what is the earth that we're on look like in the future, not too distant future. And this is again, many years ago, and they said, you would say that it is a place that is more harmonious because the people are more in sync with each other, in their philosophies, their way of approaching life, their way of thinking, their vibrations, they're more alike. So you can actually progress much faster because you're just refining. And then those who have gone to the other place, you learn faster because you're going to be exposed to more of the same. And at what point do you finally say, Enough already? And they said, there's no embarrassment in that. It's just a rate of learning. And then once that's learned, they can hop over here, or else where no one's a prisoner to Earth.

Jannecke Øinæs 32:22

Yeah, that's what I heard, that there is no judgment and no hierarchy, it's just vibration. And do you mean that this will happen when we pass away and then we reincarnate again? Yeah, so it doesn't happen while being alive that we're in another dimension all of a sudden?

Regina Meredith 32:41

No. And about 20 years ago, someone was receiving a channeling from one of these beings. And I was listening, I thought, this is interesting, the way they're answering this question, because someone was saying, I really want to make peace with my mom before she goes. And the way they're answering sounded almost a little bit blase, like, you know, just be kind. And I thought, Oh, I know why this is happening. They're not going to be seeing each other again. And then they later confirmed that and said, This is a very important lifetime for people with the new consciousness, the new energy coming in, that anything you have that's unresolved, resolve it with love. Do the very best you can, because many of the people we know and have encountered within our lifetimes will not be coming back here. They'll be going somewhere else. But it's not now the normal incarnation, even familial incarnation, patterns are broken. They've been broken up now. So we can't count on the same cycle we've been in up until now, because, because the frequencies are moving so fast. And what is going to be demanded of human beings in a lovely way, I might say, and we'll talk about that is going to require a certain frequency range to be able to incarnate back here. Does that make sense? And if you're not ready for that yet, go somewhere else for a little while, sit it out for a while. You don't learn as much sitting it out. You kind of need to get in the game and incarnate somewhere to have this really, really rapid learning that humans have, and so that it's no problem. You know, you go where you need to go after your incarnation, but if you're not a match for the prevailing energy on Earth herself and with the people of Earth, then you just set it up for a while, come back when you're ready. It's not a punishment. There's no punishment.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:39

I'm just thinking that this is quite fascinating, thinking about where we're coming from these last 100 years, or Yeah, with the World War Two, the World World War One, like all the horrendous things that have happened on the planet, and then this shift is going to. Happen, then we're going to just change and it's going to be harmonic. I'm like, that's a big contrast.

Regina Meredith 35:06

It is. It's not, you know what? A lot of times people because they refer to these wars, because that is what we've been exposed to in our history classes. That's kind of what we know is modern history. Two things in the book the future human. I asked the Z's about where humans are on the scale of consciousness. They said, Oh, there are places way worse than Earth. They said, this, this is not you like to be. You buy it. When people tell you, Oh, you're the lowest of the low, you violent little species. They said, This is wrong. You are not. You're somewhere in the middle, actually, of planets that have you know, a better way of harmonizing and a lesser way of harmonizing with each other. And so if you think about it, just from a human point of view, remember 100 years ago on Saturday morning, you could go with a light heart, more or less, and watch a lynching. Cruelty was the norm, Cruelty to Children, cruelty to women. And one thing that my soul group said about the war in particular World War Two, they said what it did was it moved people around the planet, and it allowed people to start basically procreating with someone from a completely different gene pool, and that ultimately, what will happen down the road in the future is we'll have fairly mixed blood and be more of a species rather than, you know, tribes. And they said this is actually a desirable thing. You don't need to continue fighting with each other over race, for example, or land, or anything else. This is just a step along the way, and that where we are right now is actually a finer mindset than we've been in probably for many 1000s of years. We generally are kind to each other. You watch something and we can mostly collectively agree on something that's playing out in front of us That's cruel. Most people, when they say cruelty, when they see it or experience it, it's right in front of them, want to jump in and help and change it. You don't just walk by it anymore, where in times past you someone could be quartered right in front of you, and you just keep on walking with your basket try to pick up some bread for the day. It was normal. So I would argue we are already at a finer place and ready to accept this fine energy, because most people have good hearts and they know the difference between what's cruel and what is not. And cruelty is really the dividing line.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:41

And what do you think of well, people being cruel. Then that comes from sorrow, that comes from traumas that hurt people, hurt people. That's at least what I feel I'm seeing that there's usually a cause on why people are hurting others, because they hurt themselves and they probably have had horrible childhoods, abuse, etc. Will they receive help with this new consciousness? Because if that is all they know, it is not always easy to make. I mean, we can always make another choice, but for me, who've had a wonderful childhood, is easier, I believe, for me, to make the right choices than a person who've had a horrible upbringing, although we can always make a choice, but I mean, it's easier for me who've had really a healthy childhood,

Regina Meredith 38:40

That that is true, and what you're looking at is so complex, because you're talking about all of the experiences, all of the trauma, everything we've been exposed to, everything that we have created and done to others throughout lifetime after lifetime, is stored in the subconscious mind, and you land in a place that either can accept cruelty or cannot accept cruelty in that moment. It doesn't mean one can't refine themselves and work beyond it. Absolutely whether the new consciousness, the way it's coming in this fast, will kind of give a green light growth on that, I couldn't say, because it's very challenging, and it's going to become more challenging. And in fact, one of the things Aziz talked about is is going to be a very messy dance, until for the next eight years or so, between

Jannecke Øinæs 39:38

You said 8 years?

Regina Meredith 39:39

33 um, roughly. And again, times can be changed. Timelines are moving very fast. They say, in fact, it is not a good idea to give predictions anymore for them or anyone else, because time is starting to change. Consciousness is changing so fast that you can't rely on something. Happening and what would have been kind of a logical, metaphysical timeline in the past. They said, all bets are off. So predictions are kind of worthless right now. But that said, they said roughly over the next eight years or so, till around 33 we should start seeing the kind of the integration of some of this chaos. But this is, this is the big show. The really big show that we all signed up for is now for the total chaos, for the total breakdown. And they say, rather than crying about it and fighting it, that the beauty of the human species is as we right now, everyone is kind of just watching, I don't know, in Glee or horror, depending on what side you're on, at how fast things are tearing apart and shredding, in terms of, certainly in the US, governmental systems, agencies, everything's being dismantled overnight. And so they said, the beauty of the human species is that we're innovative. We are creative. So as we see these things falling down, the very best position to take is one of innovation and creativity. How am I now going to build up from the grass up? You know? How do we build up from the ground and create something new underneath what's crumbling, and that's what we're being asked to do. It's so important that we speak our truth, that we bring our talents forward, that we not be afraid to say, well, you know, I know my parents told me I was never really very good at this, and I should do this for a living, but honestly, I love this, and that's what I do in my spare time, and I want to be part of this. It's time for that to come out, the true essence of what we love and what we're good at, capable of. And as Andrew Harvey said, what wakes us up in the middle of the night just I want to be part of changing that. That's where we should go. And everything's about feeling, forget all the ideas and thoughts. It's about how you feel about something that is what's going to it is what rules anyway, and we just don't know it, but that's what's going to rule more in the future.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:09

Yeah, I've also felt and learned that it's all about the empowerment that we have so much power ourselves, taking the power back and speaking about those in power, is that what you're saying will collapse like the systems we're actually having. That's where the chaos will arise.

Regina Meredith 42:27

Yes, well, I mean, there's it will be on a personal level, they say it's not as good. It's not disease. Now I'm speaking of disease. They're saying in this book, it's not going to be as dramatic as you think, because if it got that far without the people starting to wake up, respond, love one another, help one another, then the Earth would implode first. So they're saying, We will follow the consciousness, and it will be much harder for some and much easier for others, depending on where you're already positioned. So what? Going back to your original question, will people who've had a rough go of it, and as a result, are cruel to others, get kind of an automatic upgrade, not necessarily it will happen and play out differently for every person as they choose to engage with the new energy. This is active. It's not passive. The consciousness is active, it's moving, and you can choose how you're going to respond to it. It's not just going to upgrade everything first. It's going to create a lot of chaos and confusion. And that's a really big plan problem on the planet right now, just searching for truth is very difficult right now. If we continue using our minds, our conscious minds, that will become increasingly difficult,

Jannecke Øinæs 43:44

right? Okay, I have so many questions like, which one to pick. Okay, for the audience who do not know who the Z's are, could you explain? Yeah.

Regina Meredith 43:54

Okay so Lee Harris, just a wonderful, sweet man who was minding his own business in London as a young man, one day, found something happened, and these beings started getting his attention and talking to him, and then through him. And he was, you know, as it happens with a lot of channels, it's disconcerting. He was a musician. He wanted to be a musician. His passion was music. And they're saying, Well, you could keep doing your music, but this is your job now. And so a group of beings, a collective like with Abraham Hicks, Esther and Abra the Esther Hicks and the Abraham group very similar to that, like Sheila Gillette and Theo. It's another collective of souls that resonate with Lee and come through Lee and I, I really like I've interviewed all of these and they're all wonderful. They each have unique styles. And right now, with the z's, what I'm enjoying is they're becoming. Very pragmatic, and they're willing to go into territory that most all the beings wouldn't go into before, because the consciousness hadn't really started impacting us. Now, we kind of need to know the truth, and so I really love that, yeah, because before, in years past, I would interview the mangaia, and I would ask them certain questions that were a little bit edgy, and they'd say, maybe we can talk about this at a future date. And so now they're more willing to talk about all of it in this book is based on based on my curiosity, and also the reason it's that we're doing the future humanness I understood from my own guides and talking to them over the years, and other people's books and their guides collective experiences too, that we're going to a better place. We have challenging times ahead, but we're going to a better place. So I thought so many people are losing their enthusiasm and their hope and their faith, and they're thinking that we're terrible and everything's imploding, which it's not. It's not at all, just uncomfortable because we're being asked to step up a bit on a consciousness scale. I thought, let's talk to the Zs about what our future looks like, so people can see a, we have a future, your grandchildren have a future, and B, that it's actually going to a better, higher place. So let's get down to it, down to the bones of it, really practical. So I constructed six chapters as I think it's six. Yeah, I have book right here. Um, looking at some of the yes, it's esoteric. Yes, there it has to do with consciousness, but also very practical subjects about what's going to be happening with our bodies, our minds, our food sources, our procreation habits, gender identity issues. I asked about all of that to see where we're going to land in the relatively near future. And that relatively near future can be a generation or two from now? Well, some of it's over the next 10 years, the chaos part, but some of it's maybe a generation or two from now. Others, maybe two or 300 years from now, 400 years from now. So we could see, yes, we're going to be here. Yes, we have a beautiful planet. It's going to continue. We're going to get smarter. We're going to be better.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:21

That's the good news. Okay, and speaking of the future human, could you reveal a little bit about what's to come? And we know it's going to be a chaos a few years after that, like the new human? Who is that? What does that look like?

Regina Meredith 47:37

Well, just okay, just to give you a few little nuggets. Off the top of my head, it's a vast array of topics. Israel. I'm on my fourth reading of it, and I cannot remember the whole thing still. And then remind me to tell you about what happens in the first chapter when some people have been reading it. I'll tell you about that. But first of all, the future human is going to be living longer lifespans. So if you think about that right now, you think, Ah, I don't want to be living a compromised life into my 100 and 20s and Oh, my God, our social systems and how are we going to possibly support older people? You know, your mind freaks out and goes to this aged system we're under now. This is a very old system built psychologically, not on the best principles. That's not how we'll be living. We're transforming all of this, all of these systems. So just know that we'll be living in a different kind of system with a different reality that can support life well into old age. They said that some of the breakthroughs in and innovations happening in the world of medicine are going to be truly astounding. Some are, of course, already beginning to unfold, depending on your age. In your lifetime, you'll experience some of them. But beyond that, there are going to be more and more. And this goes back, really, to what the beauty there. There were beautiful times in Atlantis, by the way, it really didn't fall into a more corrupt state until later. Atlanta lasted concurrently, I mean, for a very long period of time, and it ran concurrently with both Lemuria and Egypt, because Egypt and the culture is, well, according to the hermetics, a couple 100,000 years old. Egypt, the Egyptian culture, there are pyramids from 100, 200,000 years ago, buried under the sand. So if we understand that there was always space travel, and this is what the archeologists are, the big conundrum. How did this thing with this language end up over here? Because there was always space travel. We have to remember, we have been inundated with beings from other planets, other third dimensional planets. If they weren't third dimensional and their craft wasn't relatively third dimensional, they couldn't. Be here so they can at least adjust to the third dimension. So we've had visitors for a long time, and we've had very large craft on this earth that could move whole populations around the Earth, artifacts around the Earth. So if we can just get comfortable with the notion there's almost always been some kind of air travel here that explains a lot of how these different things seem to happen simultaneously on opposite sides of the planet. So in the Atlantean times that were the higher Atlantean times. And if we're going to put a time frame on it, which is hard to do, we might because time actually passed differently. It was a sub dimensionally, a slightly different frequency back then we're looking maybe at 200 100,000 years ago, maybe up to about 50,000 years ago, things started becoming a little more corrupt in those more modern times. And certainly 15, 20,000 years ago, in the final collapse and devastation of Atlantis, there had been a lot of conflict. There was a lot going on there. There were wars, wars with beings in airships. All of this existed then. But prior to that, we had a very, very beautiful culture. And I say we because I was there, so were many of you. So I have been back in regressions in Atlantis, not just the Dolores Cannon regression and that the destructions of Atlantis people are conflating different constructed different portions of the Atlantean experience different time frames Atlantis went down in three sections, from top to finally the bottom off the coast of Portugal, Northern Africa and southern Europe. So that was the final phase, and that was more when you had some of the more modern kind of, you know, corruptions happening.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:59

Do you remember being there? Did you experience yourself there as an experienced

Regina Meredith 52:04

myself in Atlantis a few times, but not in the final phase. I wasn't there for the final phase. I don't know where I was or what I was doing, but at least that, not that I know of. I haven't gone back into an incarnation in the final phase, but in the previous phases, it was kind of like fin horn. If any of you know about the fin horn experiment, right? Okay, so northern Scotland, where the beings listened to the elementals and grew the most magnificent gardens, everything was full and disease free and had the best flavor still does. That's how it was there. We had techniques for illuminating the dark side of the mountain so we could grow crops on the dark side of the mountains. I mean, we the abundance was incredible. And I worked in agriculture at one point in one incarnation, I went back and looked at how we were growing this food and the, oh, just, just the abundant flavor and the abundance of food, because we knew how to use water, we knew how to use light, we knew how to use vibration. We even knew how to use the elemental realm to work with us, and we knew how to use our own minds to work with the crops. That's what we're going back toward. We're going back to the future, so to speak, in terms this kind of technology, because it's in many of us already. We've already experienced it. We just have to get in a place where these crumbling, old structures and systems and horrible chemical, chemical agriculture, type of agriculture, are gone, which it'll be gone that's not going to continue to exist. So know that we're going into these cleaner times. And so the body's going to be living 120 130 and then also, our bodies are going to, in this process, start requiring a different kind of food, different vibration and density. In fact, the best example I can give you about where we're headed on a visceral, sensual, healthy scale. They said one example you could turn to, because these things don't come out of nowhere. They come out of memory, vast memory, collective memory. Is the movie Avatar. I love it. They were, I know we all love it, where they were living in such complete harmony with their world, with nature, with Elementals. So we'll be moving toward a more plant based diet, nectar things, plants that we don't yet know even and I was shown this many years ago too, with from my group, because I was seeing green that we were drinking. And it's now, it's happening. It wasn't then that we would start drinking increasing amounts of kind of green fluids, so that the the photosynthesis from the plants, the enzymes, everything would be very easy for our body to assume. Light, and essentially just pure light, it would create a set and firing up of the light within the cells. So they're essentially saying the exact same thing. And so we're going to have a lighter diet, but never to judge oneself for where you are now, because this earth is different. It's a it's a different game going on. We're being confronted with different challenges, and that somebody still need animal protein and not to judge yourself or anybody else. Some bodies can't bear animal protein, they can't hold it anymore, and they need only like juices, and that works really well for them, or that would kill someone else, and vice versa. So we're at a crossover time and to be loving and patient and non judgmental with each other, because we each body needs something unique and so, but we are in mass moving toward a lighter diet in the future, when we're living these long lifespans. So yeah, so that's one of those things. So chapter one in the book, which is about the fact that they talk about the fact that the consciousness that's existed until now, it's being washed out, gone. The consciousness has changed. It's moving through and it's coming in very rapidly. And so that's it's talking about consciousness and what guides consciousness, about consciousness, but when I read the chapter, I started getting out a little out of body, going into an altered state, and I thought, this is weird. I'm I'm researching. I have to research this. I have to keep reading it, because there's so much in it. I thought, I can't remember a thing. I was just kind of somewhere else in another field, and so I mentioned to Lee. I said, Lee, I'm reading the book, and I'm having a hard time remembering what's in the first chapter, because I get this very kind of expansive altered state of consciousness. It's just happening to me. Said, Oh, my God, funny. You should say that. I've heard some from some of the other people who have read advanced copies that this is happening. And then he was interviewed by Pamela Gregory Few days ago or last week, and she was saying, you know, I've listened to it a few times now. It's so interesting. I keep kind of leaving my body. I'm having this expanded feeling that's inexplicable. So then a mutual friend of all of ours who people may or may not know, Sandy setch beer, she she saw that Pamela was talking about it. We're all, and I know her well, and Lee, we're all, we're friends. And she heard me mentioning this in one of my posts and talking about it to Lee, and she said, Oh my God. She was the first person to listen to the book. She said, it totally knocked me out of my body. I was dizzy reading that first chapter. So toward the end of the first chapter, as it turns out, the Z say, now you might find your frequency shifting as you're reading. So if anybody's reading the book and they're finding themselves a little dizzy, can't remember what's in there, understand it's just consciousness at work and something in their transmission. It you're not you're there's nothing wrong with you. You don't need to have a brain scan.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:19

Might be a small upgrade, perhaps. Wow, interesting. And that book is coming out. I think it was March 18, was

Regina Meredith 58:30

in America, and I think it comes out April 8 in Britain. And I don't know where every everywhere else, I don't know, but the key part of the book. I think the most wonderful part of the book is that they and other people have talked about this, but they put it in a way that I think is very manageable. And it's that the saving grace of humanity, because we do get into AI. In the book, we talk about AI, of course, I couldn't ignore that topic, and they said, what's going to differentiate humanity from even the most sophisticated AI that can mimic almost anything is it can't sense and feel, and that we're going to begin running our intelligence through our hearts. And that is the key. And so this immediately reminded me many, I'm guessing, 2030, years ago, talking to my soul group, they said you're going to be approaching a time within your lifetime where people will not know the truth. They will not be able to discern what the truth is. And I thought, and so I'm as they're I'm reading the Z's and listening to them too, thinking, oh my god, it's all it's already, it's happening. Now that was quite a while ago when I was talking to my group about it, and they said the final part of this will be when the. Confusion comes to the extent that people can't tell their dream time from their waking time, when they're confusing what they dreamt of versus what they experienced. And I thought, Okay, that's interesting. We're not there yet, but just heads up if it happens, just understand it's been known of for a long time. But if we keep trying to use the conscious mind to discern everything, our conscious mind is really the lowest aspect of our intelligence. As you know, our intelligence permeates our every cell of our body, expands out to the vast extent of our auras. Our mind connects beyond ourselves into the unified field of consciousness. Our mind is much more vast than we can even begin to comprehend, and when we're running through this tiny, little frontal lobe processing unit, that's where the confusion is happening, that's what's being appealed to. That's where we're being encouraged to look no further than the phone in the palm of your hand for all of your answers, and it's not turning out very well. We all know that we don't have to even discuss that. It's not going well. So the antidote to that is running something that you've been encountering, thinking about, maybe confused over run it through the heart. So I have often had people do this tiny little experiment where you take something that bugs you a little bit, okay, maybe just something you found a little irritating or grating. Just, you know, you can close your eyes, think about it for a moment, that irritating thing, and then you just take a breath, let it be there. Don't run away from it. Take a breath and then drop that very thought experience down into the heart. Just literally feel it dropping into the heart. And when you do that, you see that there's almost always a different understanding of that irritating thing that happened, that it just isn't that big a deal. Or I didn't, I wasn't really looking at, looking at the whole thing. So what the Z's are saying, our species is going to be of great curiosity to many species throughout the universe. As they said, We were designed to be this incredible template of physicality merging with very high intelligence and sensorial capability of feeling our way into the world, and that other beings who have lost those capabilities and want them back, are watching very closely. I mean, you know, there are cloning and there are genetic experiments and experiments and abductions and all of that. Yes, there are okay, and it many of them, it's toward regaining those capabilities for their own species who either lost them by not being wise when AI approached their planet. AI is everywhere. And didn't do it, didn't interface well with it, or places that have lost their diversity, where, through tragedy or catastrophe, they haven't had a good organic environment, and they've lost a lot of their biodiversity. So for many reasons, beings are trying to watch this verdant, beautiful, productive Earth, and it's crazy people who are crazily. Just look at the art we create. Look at what we do. We're very interesting species with essentially good hearts. So doing this little heart exercise will be our way back to sanity and developing our intuition because we're being manipulated. We're being misled. There's disinformation everywhere. No matter what side of an issue on you're on, there's disinformation on both sides, always now and AI is going to continue to instantiate that disorientation, not knowing. Geez, I don't know what to believe anymore, so you have to know now it's back on you, and that's the part that becomes beautiful, that becomes the new human. We start running these things we're thinking, run through the heart, see what card to say, and make it a habit, because then our intuition is going to start developing. Our higher mind intuition is going to start developing with the companionship of the heart through the heart. So that's where we need to go. There's, there's really no place to run, no place to hide. You can, you know, you can hop over to Hawaii. You can move to Bali. It's not going to change anything. Same consciousness is there still going to have the same issues plaguing you, you still won't know what's true and not true if you're indulging in media, for example. So always return to quieting the heart. And the other day, my guides gave me a really beautiful message, or my higher my higher mind. Don't know which? I don't ask um, but the message had to. Do with the reason people are so polarized now is because we do not a we don't like change, but we more than that, we do not like uncertainty, so we'll grab it anything in order to feel as though there's something certain. And it said, if we were to just stand back, let life fold and show itself to it unfold and show itself to us. And say, you know, I don't really know the answer right now, but I am going to stay in the center of myself, use my senses and my intellect and my intuition and continue watching all of this unfold, and I'm going to take in the information slowly in this way, until I come to a conclusion about what I feel is true. But that doesn't that works slower, and it means you can't just go join this club or wear that hat over there. You can't do that. It says that is the problem. People want certainty, so they'll put on a hat for one side or the other, and also because then they have the perception that there's strength in numbers, but we've given away our sovereignty in the process, so it's critical, and that that message, I thought, was actually quite good. This is the first time I've shared it. Be okay with not knowing the answer. Be okay with coming in here and just watching for a little bit. Say, Yeah, made my mind up on that. Yet, I don't know.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:30

You know, it's such a paradox when we have these devices and we can get answers right away through chatgpt or all these AIs, and I think it's South Korea, where they have the most use of cell phones. I watched a documentary, and it's like, I'm not sure if it was South Korea or somewhere else in Asia, but they work. A lot of young people were constantly on their phones. And then we're invited to do the opposite. We're invited to actually find the answers within even though we have these devices. So it's the other way around. Yeah,

Regina Meredith 1:07:08

It's true. And you know what? I was just reading stats on something I research a lot. Guess where the lowest birth rate on the planet is, right now, lowest population, population increase South Korea, yep, point seven. Oh, wow. Point seven. Children per couple. They're they're way below replacement rate. So it's interesting. They have the highest amount of usage of devices, and they have the lowest birth rates happening right now.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:42

So there's a connection there as well.

Regina Meredith 1:07:44

Well, I'm just, you're just saying that, and I'm saying, Well, I just read this, so yeah, together, I think it's true. And another thing this morning, I watched this woman who is a researcher, and she's, she's a hardcore academic researcher, and she thought, You know what? I've got this thing coming up. I think I'm just going to see if chat GPT can help me out on this. And this was astounding. If anyone can find the video, I don't know her name, it's out there. She took four hours to research very specific paths of information where you're getting quotations that are from a specific book, so she could attribute correctly, etc, and chat GPT just gave her better one answer after another. Virtually every single one was wrong. They were not from that source. That was an incorrect attribution. This the actual code itself was incorrect. She went over every single one and said, if you're using this for research, you're on the wrong path. It is definitely not there. Yet, didn't answer one thing correctly in her academic research and throughout all kinds of references and sources.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:57

Yeah, it is really scary, because we're using it so much, and we have no idea the results of using it so much, and the information we're sharing there, and every or there's so much talk about how you don't need assistance anymore, because AI can do anything and but I mean, the message here is not to lose ourselves in it. It's always going within. It's always about the heart. And that's what I think. It's so beautiful that there's always the this red thread in all my interviews and spiritual teachers, 99% of them speak about, you know, the heart, empowerment, finding our power, listening within, then you can't go wrong when you go within and listen to the heart, I think

Regina Meredith 1:09:45

Absolutely. And the Z's validate that repeatedly throughout the book. So that's their position, too, and that that is the way that we triumph over AI in the end, it. The heart. That's what will make our species unique and indestructible, really,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:08

And the heart has intelligence, like heartmap proved that. So we don't need to doubt that. I mean, we can think with the heart.

Regina Meredith 1:10:17

We can think with the heart. I had the privilege of being present when there was an experiment one day where they had Heart Math. People had the heart little electrodes hooked up to a woman doing their EKG, and then the EEG from another advanced technology at the time was used on the brain, and then she would be exposed to whatever, you know, exposed to data, exposed to a picture. And what it showed is the heart responds faster than the brain fast. And I got to see that in real living time with instruments. Now, the sophistication of instruments, this was over 10 years ago. They're far more sophisticated now. So what we'd see now probably be more distinct, and the more we start using that and consciously using that when we're trying to navigate our way through life, the better that muscle becomes, the greater our intuition through the heart becomes. So yes, it's wonderful, and it's true. Everybody is talking about the same thing. So we know that, that that's really our direction, is living through the heart. And that doesn't mean sentimentality. It doesn't mean you automatically just love everybody, because that's not true. A lot of times you don't just love everybody. You know, you might encounter someone you think, Oh, I don't want to, I don't know why, but I just don't want to be near this person. We're still human, you know, we still have a subconscious, we still have trauma and memories, our body remember, and we're going to navigate our way through that, but to run it through the heart to see where we really land with it. That's the key.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:54

Yeah, I think that's more of a preference. But not judgment like this is not for me. It's not necessarily that we judge it exactly. This has been truly interesting. I would love to go for hours speaking about this, but maybe you'll have to come back. I would love to have you back someday,

Regina Meredith 1:12:14

I'm happy to I'd be happy to Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12:17

and I'm excited about your book. So all the best with that. Thank you. I have a few questions that I ask all my guests on the first one is, what is self love to you Regina,

Regina Meredith 1:12:28

Self love is self acceptance. To me, self love is saying, I'm a human being. I'm here doing the best I can and saying, oops, I made a little mistake. Okay, hopefully I can learn a little faster next time. It's just being gentle with yourself and self acceptance and knowing you're already doing the best you can. And if you know you're not doing the best you can, you catch it and you reverse that. So to me, that self love is self acceptance,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12:57

And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective,

Regina Meredith 1:13:01

That constant process of refinement, just looking at where these these aspects of ourselves that are being driven by the subconscious mind to fear for someone or to fear a situation, so being able to overcome any kind of subconscious compulsion toward fear, I think that is really huge for an earth person in this life, and the other part of it personally is to just enjoy the heck out of it. I mean, we're on an incredible planet that not every planet. There are gajillions of planets out there, and it's rare to have this amount of beauty and diversity and to just go out and to connect with our planet, connect with our animals and our plants and our flowers. So do the best we can to not live in fear, because we were never meant to live in a state of chronic fear. Fear is there to help us to run from something if we need to, but not to live in a state of low level fear all the time. So if we can kind of brush the fear aside and just engage with the incredible, tasty beauty of this planet, I'm I'm really big on joy. I'm big on enjoying this place called Earth. I'm not trying to run from it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:14:17

And where can people find your book? Where can they find you if they want to learn from you Regina,

Regina Meredith 1:14:24

oh, I should have said one other thing on that, for where we are now as a species. The other really important life is to learn to connect with higher mind. Listen to that little, that little angel on your shoulder. That's you to start really fine tuning ourselves so we're connecting with higher mind, then we're not going to make those mistakes that lead us to fear. We're just not going to the higher mind. It has it. It has our program that we incarnated for. So higher mind connection, I'm big on that. Okay, so the book is available on Amazon, and I'm assuming other booksellers as well, for those of. You protesting Amazon, you have to look around a little bit, and it is available again, March 18 in America, April 8 in England, and not sure, the other release dates elsewhere. And for me, you can find me on reginameredith.com Regina meredith.com I do interviews there, but I'm starting to move more toward commentary, which is an assimilation of kind of like what we're talking about, everything that I've learned through my soul group, through the years, and from the others I've interviewed, and the Zs and so forth, and just streamlining it into commentaries that make it easy to grok a particular subject. I feel I can be most useful that way, because I'm already doing all these interviews with lovely people on The Open Mind show on gaia.com so Gaia TV, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:15:52

It has been a thrill having you. It's been so much fun, and I've learned so much. Thank you so much for being a guest on the show today.

Regina Meredith 1:15:59

Oh Jannecke, thank you so much for having me, because you're, you're very refined being, you're delightful, and clearly you're a seeker that has super high energy and very refined frequencies. So I have to say it's a joy being with you. You're, you're living your truth. You're living your truth. So I'll be happy to come back anytime. Yes. Okay, thank you Jannecke.