The Origin of Souls: A Channeled Map to New Earth! With Anne Tucker

Anne Tucker 0:00

All these different traditions from all over the world, disconnected from each other, all said now is the time. All of them. Isla lays out a map of growth of our consciousness, of a human consciousness, of our own individual consciousness, and of growth in the universe, and she breaks it down into seven stages. What are these different states of consciousness? The fifth stage is what we are currently growing through-the period of transition from 3D to 5D or old Earth to new Earth. So it is an incredible time to be alive. So to actually physically embody and move through those two states of consciousness in one life, and to be the bridge from one to the next, it is like a blow your mind, incredible opportunity.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:41

He also addressed the birth of the soul. How were we born?

Anne Tucker 0:46

God had His first moment of awareness and said, "I am. The angels are the embodiment of "I am. They are God's presence. They are the divine witness. God asked the question, "What am I? In order for God to see Himself, that He had to separate from Himself. We are in the embodiment of separation. If a question emerges from the stillness, that is the spark of a new soul. Each of us, as a soul, will become a universe from the inside. The reality that you exist within is not what it seems to be. It is, in fact, a field of vibration that is co-created and shared among you. The world is changing very much. There is so much, so much change. Vibrations of change are emanating from the earth herself.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:32

Hey, I have a favour to ask you. If you value these conversations, then please subscribe to my channel. Anne Tucker, welcome back to the Wisdom From North Show.

Anne Tucker 1:43

Thank you so much. It's so great to be with you again.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:46

I'm so excited to see you again. I feel like I'm interviewing once a year, and I love connecting with you always. And you are a trance channeler for the Angel Collective. You also channel Mother of Creation, and Joshua, you're a healer. You're a best-selling author, and you just came out with a new book, The Map to the New Earth, which addresses really the big, big questions, and that's what we're doing on this show. So this is just perfect, and you're actually addressing the origin of the universe, birth of the souls, and it gives this practical map on how to locate exactly where we are in our growth. So I can't wait to dive deeper. However, I'll start with what is captivating you the most right now, collectively, cosmically, spiritually, and in your own life.

Anne Tucker 2:41

Oh my gosh! My right now, I'm super focused on developing a heart, heart to heart connection with people and with everything as much as possible. Like I'm really working on whatever remaining filters I have or many other remaining barriers I have to that telepathic connection to be able to connect with another person heart to heart without the mental processing, and so I've been having more and more experiences like that, but I'm not able yet to do it intentionally. But I'm noticing major shifts, particularly coming off the eclipse in my own self, as I feel like it's it's becoming more and more real. So I'm having these incredible moments of telepathy where I'll be speaking with someone, and then I hear their heart speaking back to me. So they will be talking, but their heart will be louder. That it'll be like a second voice that's still their voice, but it's talking at the same time and it's saying what their heart is really feeling, and it's amazing, amazing what it happens, and so, anyways, I'm I'm in the process of work working with that and trying to understand that and trying to understand what I need to adjust in myself or heal in myself to be increasingly open to that. So, yeah, I feel like it's a new pathway for healing, and I'm anyways, I'm just I'm totally lit up about it. Really excited about it. I can imagine, and I guess this is just connected to the new human and how we might be evolve and how we might be communicating in the future. So you're tapping into that, and then I get curious. Can you hear my heart speak right now? Not in the way that I've been telepathically doing it, and I don't know how to turn it on and off. It's only happened like it's only happened a handful of times where, and it's it's it's beyond. It's not like channelling, where when I channel, I can turn the voice on and off. I can like it's like almost like words are coming down a pipe, and I can choose to say or not to say them if I don't want to. Do you know what I mean? The pipe's right there. If I don't say it, the word just sticks in the pipe, and it feels uncomfortable. But it's just-it's like a pipe, and I have control over that pipe. I can stop it or start it if I want to, and this just happens. And it's not like it's some. It's not like it's words that come through like channelling. It-it's a-it feels more like energy. This is like a audible voice that is-I know it's in my. Head, but it is as loud as I hear your spoken voice, and it's louder. So it's unmistakable when it happens, and I can't control it. I don't know. Like I had happen the other night in the middle of the night, I heard my one of my the the little girls in my neighbourhood. I heard her heart in the middle of the night, and and she yeah, and and I knew it was her because I know her voice, and I knew, like that, no knowing that comes with it. I knew it was her, and her heart was going aww. And it was about because she's starting school the next day, and it was that feeling of like, oh, okay, I'm kind of looking forward to school, but I'm so bummed that summer is over. And I could feel all that in the expression of her heart. And it was like at four in four in the morning. Why did it happen? I have no idea. Like why in that? So it's it's anyway. So but yeah, I'm not hearing it. I wish I could turn it on and be like yeah. But I mean, I can channel and I can connect to your heart consciously. But this unconscious connection that's happening not from here but from here, I don't know how to govern it yet. Yeah, and maybe that's I'm not supposed to govern it. But I so I guess I should say I don't know how to how to open to that all the time yet.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:07

Fascinating. I would love to hear the I would love to hear more about the process with a book because this is a channelled book and it seems like you're still processing everything that came through and that what is so fun with you is that you get blown away by what's coming through you. I love that

Anne Tucker 6:28

very much, very much so. And this experience of channelling this-so this is the new book. It's called The Map to New Earth. I always do like this when I have to hold it straight. This is called. It is called The Map to New Earth, and the experience of channelling it was-it was probably the most one of the most fun things I've ever done, which I wouldn't normally say that about channelling because it's channelling is a lot of work. You know, it can be very tiring, and I'm usually the last one to know what came through. Be like, "What was said? I get images. I don't hold the words. I get images. But in doing this book, my process was: I would get up every morning, and I would just take. I'd have my phone on silence. I would just be, and I would just be in the quiet, and I would just connect, and then it would just come through. And I would be sometimes I'd be half in and out of trance, where I'd be writing and just flowing what the information was, and other times I would be in trance, and I would just record what came through. But it was a period where it was like this sacred container that, in because I did it in the same spot on my couch every day, you know what I mean. I'm in there, and or on my deck. My mornings were so beautiful, and there was the the information that was coming through absolutely blew my mind, and there was a lot of things that I had wrong that I now understand so much better because of the book. There was even one section that I thought I got it. Like she was showing me things, and I was understanding things, and I got ahead of myself, and I started writing. And then I get five pages along, and she stops me, and she's like, "No, like that's wrong. Like, oh darn it! And I go back and delete. Okay, what is it? And then you know what I mean. So there was just a lot that I didn't understand.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:03

And who is she? I thought it was the angels that channelled this book.

Anne Tucker 8:08

So no, this book was all from Isla. She calls herself Isla. She is, and she gave herself that name because I started channelling her, and people were like, "Who is she? Who is she? Because a lot of people were asking, "Is she Sophia, or is she? You know, who is she? And so she came up with the name Isla, which is beautiful because it represents in the book. I talk about the first two energies of the universe. The first energy is the energy of will, and the second energy is the energy of love. and And this is part of our growth process, our our inhale, our and our exhale. It's part of our in our expansion and our contraction. Will is one, and then and then love is the other. And Ila, I is for will, law is for love. So Ilah, so it represents the two primary energies of the of the universe. Yeah, which is so cool. But at one point, she jokingly said she has 10,000 names. So I think all, all, all like divine feminine embodiments, as we know it, evolved from the basic concept of her that she is the one of the primary energies that started our universe. That our universe is like her womb. Best way to describe who she is is to say first when and I use the term God. So please, if you use source, whatever term you use, please substitute it. But I I like the term God, and I tend to refer to God as a He. That doesn't mean that He is a He. It's just easier for me. So, so God had His first moment of awareness, came came to awareness, and said, "I am, and that is the moment that I am as I am presence. I am alive. I exist. That rippled out into existence, and that is what created the angels. The angels are the embodiment of I am. They are God's presence. They are the divine witness. Then came the second energy of the universe, which came with He first thought as I am. The second is the question of what am I, and that generated separation. So in that moment, God asked the. Question: What am I? He immediately created because God is infinitely creative in front of himself a mirror to see himself. But in order for God to see himself, he had to separate from himself, and that mirror, because it contains all that God is, also contained the question: What am I? It contained the concept of separation. Whereas the first thought of the universe did not contain separation, I am the angels are not separate from God; they are one with God. We are in the embodiment of separation because we were part of that mirror. So the minute the mirror was created, it because it contained separation, it immediately separated from itself, just like two cells do. Like when you see a cell in mitosis, it separated into two, and it pulled itself apart. And those two pieces-one was what Isla calls the Grand Central Sun, which is masculine energy, and the other one is Ila, and so and which is divine feminine energy. And then together they they remain in a state of not quite merged, which generates energy, and that's how the the universe evolved, and then everything then separates and divides, and continues to separate and divide into infinite creation.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:08

That is beautifully explained. Thank you. I love that about the cell that's dividing. So, was this then the birth of consciousness also?

Anne Tucker 11:22

Um, and and know that consciousness is God. So I would say that consciousness is the sort of the one force. It's the one thing that's always ever present, and there are multiple universes, not just this one. So we are part of the moment of separation, but consciousness existed. So so we as consciousness in separation, we are that. So, but consciousness in the whole, consciousness as oneness existed before we existed. But we we are the introduction of consciousness as separate or separate in separation from the one. If that makes sense,

Jannecke Øinæs 11:58

and then you also address the birth of the soul, and I'm very interested in learning more about that. How were we born?

Anne Tucker 12:07

Yeah, yeah, it's so amazing. I mean, it was amazing listening to Isla. She she talked about her own experience because you know we think about God as the as the all knowing, all seeing, all powerful. Like, does not God need to grow? But Isla is very much like when she talks and the way she expresses herself, she would we would call her very human like. And I at first oh she's so human like, but then I realised no, it's not that she is human like. It's that we are like her. That in the same way that we're just like our genetic mother, like our Earth mother, we are like Isla. That emotions, feelings-that's her language of being, and so she has all of those. And she and the universe are going through a growth process, which we are also doing. And it's part of our growth process is all part of answering the question through which we were born, which is, "What am I? We are living like an echo from that first moment when that question rose and created us, and so and we continue to separate and divide ourselves all the way. As there's a but that was so fast, and I talk about this in depth in in the book about how this process of division and growth happens, and it is once I understood the to say the perfection of it, like I understand that there's not supposed to be perfection, that there is no perfection without death. So, but it is so beautifully made the way this the way everything fits together that it is once you see the whole picture it's like everything makes sense all that you can trace it all the way back to the very start of existence it all falls into place but so the way souls are born like like this our universe was not the first universe that Ila created and so she generated other universes before ours, but they didn't work out. And so, yeah, and she learned in the process, and she learned through the process of in the beginning, she tried she created everything and tried to control it, which sounds very human, doesn't it? She created things and she tried to make them in her own image, or to control how they evolved and what they did, and what she discovered was that she didn't learn anything and she didn't grow, and all she did was create more of herself, and she was never surprised. It was never a moment where where she expanded. She just kept creating herself again and again, and so she gradually learned that she needed to let go, to create and let go, create and let go, and give us the ultimate freedom, which is to have her power. We are all like many Ilas. We have all that same creative ability that she has, and we're just learning to use it. But but in that process, then we become creative, and now we can surprise her. So now she can grow. So so this is why this universe is sustainable. It's because we have free will, and we have the ability to create. So, and so this is a growing, expanding universe. So, how are souls created? It is if you think of the universe as like a like Isla's belly, like she's it's her uterus, like she's pregnant. You know, and and and and first, she showed me herself to try to teach me the fact that she's the mother of souls because I had no concept of her. Like I had never was. I've only heard like the typical Western religious ideas of, or you know, ideas and religion of you know God and Yeshua and you know and these things. I there was no place in there for for an Isla, I was like, "Who is this person? I don't get it. And she tried to connect with me for for months and months and months. You know, for like a year, I was having dreams about her before I could. I finally opened up to connect with her, and I was just afraid because she's she and she didn't feel like an angel, and her energy was really big. And I just did. I didn't understand her.

Anne Tucker 15:40

And for me, I've just always been really careful about what I connect to, and so I, I just, I was guessing I was too scared to open up enough to let her in, even when I wanted to. I was hard for me to relax enough to do it. Finally, when I made the connection, the way she tried to teach me about who she is is the first thing I saw was I saw a woman kneeling on a dirt path, and she's looking down this like dirt road, and she's watching a man go. And I realise it's Yeshua, and he's walking away to become incarnated. And I can feel the feelings of the woman watching him go down the path. And he looks back at her, and he's at peace with his with his decision. He's leaving. He's happy. He's full of promise, and she is feeling all the feelings of Mother Wood, knowing what was going to happen to him. Right? She has the love, the pride, the sorrow, all the complicated feelings of a mother letting go of her child, knowing that he's going off to do hard things. And I thought naturally, oh, that must be Mary. That's his mother. That must be Mother Mary. And so I'm just watching it, thinking, "Oh, that must be Mother Mary. And then it dawns on me, "Wait a minute, he's going to be incarnated, and so Mary must be on Earth. So who is that? And that question, as soon as I had that question, "Who is that? Immediately, the scene shifted, and I'm shown what I would describe a woman in in space that sort of like almost like points of light that are connected, like the way we see the constellations. I see her as like transparent, and I see her floating in in nothingness. And it's clear that the universe, like, there's no universe, there's nothing. It's just her, and and then I become aware of this great big sun, this great big, and she sees, and then I start, and then I start connecting with her telepathically, and can start to feel and understand her feelings, and she's curious about the sun, but she ignores it at first, and then decides, okay, well, I'll just go merge with it, which is how she would understand things-is to just become one with it. And so, when she merges with it, she gets closer to it, and I'm feeling the presence of God now. And in her environment, God is clearly everywhere, and she's aware of God, and God is there, but you're just not visible, and she goes to merge, and I feel her merging with this enormous sun, and she's trying to figure out what it is. But as she's merging, I'm feeling the process of connecting. They get to a spot where it's sticky, and it won't. And it's almost like like a clockworks; it gets jammed, and it just won't go any further. And so I'm curious, and I kind of stick my head into the sun, and I look in there and I see five little men, and so it's clearly masculine energy. But it's like five little men, and it's telling me 5% 5% of masculine energy and 5% of feminine energy are not compatible, cannot merge. So they get stuck in this situation, and so it's like being alike, but not all the way alike, and this opens up a gateway. It's like it's like going into a room and leaving the door open so that energy can flow out. It's like taking a battery, which is the sun, which holds all the all the energy, and you plug in Isla, who leaves the door open, and that creates a gateway through which through which the energy of the sun can flow into the universe and support life. So this was so that was my introduction. Like this, and I was like, "What the heck is this? And I began to understand they were sort of the sort of mother and father energies. They set the dynamic for what the universe, how the universe would multiply and divide and create itself. So, so then, how was a soul born from all of this? So a soul, and I understood this through the seven stages of growth that Ila spelled out in the book.

Anne Tucker 19:07

That the the the initial stage is this stage of of of completion. Like you start from completion, just like like in the the first moment where God becomes aware and says, "I am. I am as a place of stillness, and so the universe is born into stillness. But then there has to be the first moment of what gets. If you come home from a busy day or finishing a tough job or whatever, and then you sit on the couch and you're like exhausted, and that is your moment of stillness, and you're just like, I'm not doing anything, I'm not thinking anything, I'm just being. But then you have a question of like, I wonder what's in the fridge, right? And that gets you up off the couch. So the question is the thing that starts to generate change. It's the thing that generates growth. So for the birth of a soul, it starts always with a question. So if you look at the map, if you take. The map of our existence, what we call our universe, all known consciousness that are born within the separation that we share. That there will be a question that evolves out of the stillness, and it's almost like imagine that you see a map of consciousness in our universe, and there'll be some hot spots, like a hot spot over here where there's all kinds of activity of consciousness, and another hot spot over here. Tonnes of activity, and over here, and over here. But there'll be dead spots where nothing's happening. Dead spot here. Dead spot here. Where there's just stillness, and that's the stillness from which new consciousness is born. And so, into that stillness, there will be patterns of energy that flow through it that may come into conflict with one another, and if they come into conflict with one another in assumption, say we cannot. We can all say, well, we assume that the universe operates according to gravity, and it operates according to like these certain concepts. Well, what if all of a sudden some of these things we take for granted collide in one of these places of stillness, and a question emerges, like, "What if we did it this way? Would it still be the same? What if? What if? Whatever it is, whatever the question, if a question emerges from the stillness, that is the spark of a new soul. And as soon as it is born, then it immediately divides, just like Isla and and the Grand Central Sun. It immediately divides, and it divides and divides and divides and divides and divides, and it becomes like a planetary system, right? And then and then so and it evolves into individuals within that, and then eventually people or or beings on those planets, and dividing further and further and further. So we are like the humans who who evolve from within Earth or from within the Earth consciousness, are like at the edge of the Earth, dividing and dividing and dividing and becoming souls on within the Earth, dividing, dividing, dividing, and then eventually those souls will separate from the Earth, just like a baby separates from the womb. So, and then eventually, each of us as a soul will become a universe from the inside, so universe continues to expand. This is, I mean, I just keep going; it just blows my mind. But we become, I know, we become a universe, but growing from the inside, not outside. So, and it's not too hard to understand when you start thinking about us as a universe. Do you know how many bacteria live inside us. We are already like a universe of bacteria. If you think of it like that, it's not too hard to stretch your mind to think that we could become our own universe. But not yet. We have a long way to go. But I know I just like I just said a whole lot in like one sentence. But there's so much to explain. Like that's why it took me a long time to get it into a book. Yeah. Wow.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:41

This is so interesting. Thank you for sharing all of this and writing the book. Even so, would you say it makes sense to ask? Then, are there old souls and new souls?

Anne Tucker 22:54

Yes, absolutely, absolutely. And there's no judgement in that. In the same way that you wouldn't judge, you know, like a baby who can't walk yet? You don't go like you're a bad baby because you can't walk. You're like, no, it's the baby's gonna walk. Just give it time on Earth right now. Not all the souls that are here originated from within Earth. Many of us are volunteers from other places that we evolved from an older history, an older like beginning soul origin planet, and we separated from that planet long ago, and then we chose to incarnate here in order to help with this shift of, or to be here to be able to experience the shift of consciousness. But there are also beings here who were part of the original Earth that are tied to the Earth genealogy and tied to Earth as a soul. But they will very soon, according to Isla and the angels, they will begin to separate from the planet and to go off planet. So just like being birthed, that they say is part of our-I can't remember how she referred to it-not our destiny, but it was like we already have a place. Is the idea we already have a place in the the cosmos with all the other beings in the cosmos? We just haven't taken it yet, but it's sitting there waiting for us.

Jannecke Øinæs 24:02

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Anne Tucker 25:22

Ah, so you know the concept of the Big Bang that we hear about in physics. So when she started talking about the expansion of the universe, I thought, oh, she's talking about the Big Bang, and I know what that is. And so my mind got ahead of me, and I was like, oh, she's talking about the Big Bang, blah blah blah. And then I assumed the universe would expand and contract like sequentially; that there would be a big expansion, like the Big Bang, and I think it's just because I've heard of the Big Bang so much, and I assumed, oh, well, then there must be a contraction that happens at some point. And then she stopped me as I was in the middle of writing all that, and she's like, no, that's not how that works. She says that she is that she is a as a being, and which is the womb of the universe is outside of time. The time exists inside the universe, but outside of the universe, time doesn't exist. That she is outside of time, and so she says that that the universe, where her, which is her womb, expands and contracts simultaneously, but inside the universe, it expands and contracts for us beings in the universe, so the universe itself expands and contracts simultaneously. But we live inside of time, which allows us to break the process apart into a sequence, so that we can experience it in more forms. So, in other words, like it's like taking white light and separating it out into seven colours. Well, you now have seven experiences of colour rather than just one, so like we can take a soul and separate it out into seven different variations, and we get to experience seven different perspectives at once. So our experience as beings living inside the universe is all, and it embodies again the idea that we were born from, which is separation as a method of self exploration. But she is not part of that. She's her unit. Her womb is not part of time because she's kind of the first layer of that creation. So the for her, the expansion and contraction happen all at once. And the way she showed it to me was: yes, the universe seems to be expanding all the time, but at the same time, it's like there's a Roomba vacuum cleaner running around vacuuming up anything that is expired or old or that is thought forms that have been resolved that have have lost their will to exist or that are no longer growing that that devolve into the emptiness that devolve back into raw natural state energy and they be and that is, and that's like the Roomba vacuum cleaner that sucks all that back back up and turns it back into the raw fuel for new creation. So that's the contraction.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:51

Interesting. It's just so funny how I feel like I've understood something, and then no, I didn't quite. I know there's always something more. There's always something new.

Anne Tucker 28:02

I know, and I find that these concepts, I can, I can, I can hear them. I can even talk about them, and it's still hard for me to hold them. That even the moment I can plug into that concept, and we can talk about it, and then if I take a step back from it again, it can be hard to wrap my head around. And it's they're very expansive concepts, and they're very right brain concepts, and so they're very difficult. I find they're difficult to hold, but but there's a sense of peace that I get from exploring them. Even in the book, there's so the vibes in the book. The because I was in channel the whole time it was being written, so her energy is just infused in the book and in these conversations. So I find that that there's just a lot of healing that happens, a lot of like peace that that comes from me, particularly, and I think other people feel it too from reading and from from understanding what she's sharing.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:51

Well, you're doing a great job explaining this, and

Anne Tucker 28:55

thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:56

Yeah, and I feel we're ready for it. I can just see it in the comments that it just feels on the show how people are so ready and get so much and get so much more than me at times. I want to jump to that I've heard you speak about that we've been through a time of grace, and now we're in seven years of tribulations, and then we're moving into a time of this Christ consciousness era. From what I interpreted it as, that will last for 1000 years. So I would love for you to elaborate a bit on the pivotal time we find ourselves in, where we're coming from, where we are, and where we're going.

Anne Tucker 29:41

Oh, so so I mentioned that briefly in the book, but I'm not an expert. So that's the the Essene timeline, and I I mention that in the book because I'm trying to show that there are many different ways of coming at and understanding the time that we are in. That if you look at all these different traditions, if you look at the Essenes, which. But when they found the Dead Sea Scrolls, they found a timeline in the Dead Sea Scrolls that talked about this time that we are in as being being like the seven years of tribulations, and then going into this 1000 years of of of Christ consciousness. And it was in like buried in these clay pots in a cave somewhere, talking about now, right? What are the chances? And then we have so many other schools of thought. We have the astrological, you know, the astrological procession. Then we have the yuga cycles, and we have it's like thing after thing. All these different, even the the calendar of the Aztecs. It's like all of them are born from this concept of approximately 24,000 or 24,000 year cycle that we are in a stage of massive change, and so I'm not an expert on the Essenes at all, or that that particular concept of the seven years, and then the because that's one of the several that I mentioned. But the point of that was to show that how is it that all these different traditions from all over the world, disconnected from each other, all said now is the time. All of them, and they came at it differently. Like the Essenes had a different clock; they had a different like there's there's a broken down. But even so, there's pointed to now, and so that's kind of was I what I was trying to get at is that this and so yes, absolutely. Like in the book, Isla says that why this time is significant is because, and she lays out a map, a map of growth of our consciousness, of a human consciousness, of our own individual consciousness, and of growth in the universe. And she breaks it down into seven stages, and she says that that it isn't just one path that we go through. It isn't like we go through the seven stages and then we're just done. It is seven stages on a spiral. So we go through seven, you know, 1234567, and then we do the next rung on the spiral. 1234567, and then 1234567, and we are spiralling up, up, up into high. And up is we use that as a way of understanding, but it's just into higher frequencies. And that first stage is of seven stages of spiral, there's rungs on the spiral. We'll go through seven rungs and then seven rungs, so it goes on and on and on. But where we are is on one of those rungs, the rung that we are currently on. We are in 12345, We are in the fifth stage of that rung. So, so the fifth stage is what we are currently growing through, and it is a remarkable time period to be in, to be to be alive and to be on Earth to experience the fifth stage, because the fifth stage is the period of transition from from the the predominantly from which which he would call the inhale to the exhale, from the the expansion to the contraction-it's from masculine energy to feminine energy. So we call it from 3d to 5d, or old Earth to new Earth. We have a million ways of talking about it, but it is essentially we have been going through a process of expanding and separating into as smallest, smallest, smallest pieces that we can get, separating things out into the into absolute individuality, and once we achieve the perfection of that separation, we will begin to collapse back down into oneness. And so, the fifth stage is the period in which we are living in both. That we, as incarnating right now, we get to be the bridge, and we get to experience in our lifetimes moving in between those two states of consciousness, and we go back and forth and back and forth, and we will be the bridge into the new state, and we actually create it from inside us. So it is an incredible time to be alive.

Anne Tucker 33:37

So to actually physically embody and move through those two states of consciousness in one life, and to be the bridge from one to the next, it is like a blow your mind, incredible opportunity. What are these different states of consciousness? If you could explain a bit more, the difference and how we can feel the difference. Oh yeah, absolutely. So, okay. So, an example I've been using, which I think helps, is because everything, all of these concepts seem really huge, but we have to remember that we are eventually going to be a universe. That everything that is true for our body, for our human body, is true for the universe. So, if we ever get overwhelmed, like you don't have to know physics or math to understand the biggest questions of the universe, you just have to understand yourself, and it doesn't even mean you have to be an expert in biology. You just have to feel, and so we can always start there and bring it home, bring it back down to ourselves as a way of understanding the world and the universe. So, what is this shift of consciousness? We've heard about it, people talking about it in so many different ways, and I know it can be really confusing. So, so what it really is is is it breaks down as simple as a shift of perspective that we go from seeing the world one way to seeing the world in a new way, and our perspective is everything. Our perspective is our consciousness. Our consciousness is is only. Ever was like when you dream. Where's your body? Your body's not there. You are just perspective. You're like a window flying around in your dream world, seeing things. And you often don't have a body in your dream life. And when you separate, if you have a near death experience, you are just perspective. You're just one consciousness, like a ball of light looking out into the world. So we we change that perspective in this shift of consciousness. So we move. If you can imagine, our current state of consciousness is a lot like being inside of a house and looking out of a large window. And so, imagine you're in a single room and you're you're looking looking straight out the window, and you have the perspective that the window offers you. So you can look out on the world through that window. But think about what that's like being inside a house, looking out the window at the world. You you can see the trees blow, so you know it's windy, but you can't feel the wind. You have to understand the wind based on your mind, based on your memory of what the wind is, based on your interpretation or your guess about that wind, what that wind might feel like. Right? You don't know what the temperature is, so you make a guess. You're like, "Oh well, I see sun. It looks kind of hot. I'm guessing it's probably in the 70s. You know, and that's coming from here, not from here, not from senses. It's coming. Everything is coming from memory. So you might see birds flying, and you might have a memory or a feeling of what that experience is. All of it is done from the perspective through the window. You only see this one sliver. Like you don't know what's outside of that. All you can see is what's available to you, and you have to interpret everything. Everything is interpreted through the mind. So the mind stands between you and everything, right? So this is where we are today: is we understand all of our experience through our memories. When when I when we meet each other, we will immediately go through our file drawer of other people we know and say, "Ah, Yannika reminds me of this other person I used to know, so she must be like that. And I'm going to put her in that file cabinet, in that file, right? So there's always the mind is between us and every experience we have, filtering and categorising and using that as a tool to understand everything. When we go through the shift of consciousness, that changes, and it is like going from being inside the house, looking out a window. It's like going through the door, and now you are out in the garden.

Anne Tucker 37:10

And all of a sudden, rather than having to under understand everything through memory or through intelligence and rationalising everything, right now instead we feel the wind, and we can experience the grass under our feet, and we know what the temperature is because we know what on our skin. There's a body awareness that comes in, and a sensory awareness that becomes incredibly expanded from what we were when we were inside the house. Inside the house, we have very limited sensory experiences, and we experience everything filtered through through logic and through analysis. Once we are outside, which is New Earth, we all of a sudden we our whole body becomes an incredible tuning instrument where we can experience being one with everything, and we know what it is because we feel it, and that's what the state of the new state of consciousness will be. So once we, in the way we achieve it, which is like of course important through this whole process. How do we do it? Is that right now we have an expanded state of consciousness. Right now, we're just expanded in a different way. Is that that right now? Think about how much work it takes to to process everything through the mind. How much how much work it is to meet someone and be like, okay, that person reminds me of someone I knew in fifth grade, and so I'm going to put them in that file cabinet. But their shoes look like they must be sporty, so I'm going to add that file. Right, the mind is doing all this work, and so so I would describe where we are right now as expanded along the axis of time that we understand our reality through the axis of time, through memory and through history, and also through projection of the future. Like we might understand someone as being relevant or important to us because, hey, I want to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see that person in the future, and so we have a connection. So there's this, we dwell on this expanded state across time where we are rarely in the present moment. We are almost always processing and experiencing and learning through the past or through our relationship to the future. So we are very expanded this way. Once we get to the state of being completely free to be ourselves, this is the key: is healing. Healing is the key. The key is getting to the space where we no longer restrict or ignore or try to to deny any part of ourselves, where we are willing to accept all parts of ourselves. That collapses our consciousness along the axis of time, and we become present in the now moment because we're no longer afraid to be present with ourselves. And but all that energy's got to go somewhere, right? If we collapse it, it comes all the way down to the gnaw moment, it's going to go whoop up and connect with all that is, and we expand along the axis of connection with everything, and so that opens up our telepathy, which is what I've been experiencing: is these incredible connections to the heart, where I can hear another person's heart, so I can feel the door just slightly opening for me, and I'm sure it is for other people too. Different ways, but that's that is the difference. Like old consciousness, new consciousness, and we are the bridge. We are the bridge. So we are meant, and and this journey is not a one time thing. We're not going to go zoop and we're there. It's like in and out, in and out, in and out, and eventually we'll spend more time here and less time here. But it's a journey of we go back and forth and back and forth, and that's what we are experiencing right now.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:22

Interesting. I love your metaphors, and I just want to comment also on the information you receive from Isla. How detailed it is. I'm just amazed of the detail and how she's showing you things so concretely. If you could just say a few words about it, because I feel that someone is curious out there. Do you see it with your third eye? Like, how do you actually see things?

Anne Tucker 40:48

Oh, yeah, it comes in for me. The channelling comes in in a couple of different ways. The when I'm in trance, the words flow through, and that's and they'll be very specific. So, in the book, the book is about 40% direct channelling. So where it is her words written down that I just record and I just add the punctuation and I put them in exactly as she gave them to me. So I just speak out loud and she's and you've and we'll do that later together today. But but then the other part of it is when I'm I'm in a light trance. I'm not in a deep trance state. I'm just in a light trance state when I'm channelling, and I will get information, and when I'm in deep trance, I still get a visual channel. So I I have a really hard time following the words when I'm in deep trance because I'm in the state I'm in is very very heart based, and which is very like what we would consider to be right brain, and the heart doesn't necessarily because it's not expanded along the axis of time. It doesn't put things into context very well. It doesn't put things like I can't. I can get a word, but I have a hard time putting it in a sentence. So I don't hold things language very well when I'm in that state. So she gives me visual a visual. I follow. I'm getting a visual track while they're speaking a verbal track. So I'm watching what's happening while they're talking or while she is talking, so so so yeah. So I started out on my channelling journey as being very very clairvoyant. So I see things, but then the other piece that I find to be just essential is I'll get the visual, and then I get a knowing, and the knowing is one of the richest ways that I get information because I it comes in like it's almost like a packet, and it and then it opens like the flower, and it contains this multisensory experience of understanding. And it's got to be like the closest thing I would say to telepathy because it is a almost as if you had the experience yourself. Like it's that deep of a know of a knowing. Like it is, it just lands like a truth. And I and so it's kind of for me it's a twofer. I'll get the visual and I'll get the knowing and then and then I also get the transmit the the transmissions of the trans channelling.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:50

I would love to go into some channelling very soon, and I actually want to address a lot of the questions that have come from the audience. Yeah, give them the opportunity to ask some questions, not just me, but I think something is essential from the book that you talk about going from manifesting or creating from karma and then moving into mastery. That that's also what we're doing now. Could you just share a few words about that?

Anne Tucker 43:16

Yeah, yeah. So so one of the things about you know as how's I was saying that right now in our current place inside the house, looking out the window, we are expanded along the axis of time. So we we are understanding our present moment through our lens on the past and through history. And so when we do that, when I try to say, "Oh, okay, here I am, you know, with Yannika, and I understand her as reminding me of someone I knew 20 years ago, I am dipping back into my past, and in my past, guess what's there? All my yuck, all my baggage, all my stuff, and I bring it into the present moment. So I might be like, "Oh, she reminds me of someone I knew 20 years ago when we were friends. But oh my gosh, I remember that friend never called me back. I have hurt feelings, and I bring those hurt feelings into my conversation with you, and then we play them out, and so I reenact my karma. So we are living because we are expanded across time. We have created a karmic reality that is based on reliving our wounds in the present moment. When we shift to the new expansion, which is to go up and connect with all that, all of our time collapses, and with it, so does our karma, our our way of experiencing ourself as not just who we are today, but as who we were 30 years ago. All of that condenses or collapses into the present, and we become who we are in the now moment, our fullest evolved self, the the best self we can be, and we begin to expand and explore a new way of growth, and the new way in New Earth. How we will explore ourselves is through creation. Is that we learn to to grow through the process of trying to master our own ability to create.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:53

All right. I hope someone gives us a recipe to do this.

Anne Tucker 44:57

this. It's in the book. It's in the book. And I'm also going to down the road. I'm going to do because there's, of course, like once I stopped writing the book, the channelling didn't stop. So there's been a lot more information that's been coming through about exactly how to create in the new way. It's a new manifesting changes naturally because it's a new system. So and that I'll be offering a workshop. I just I have to develop it first, but it'll probably be in the next several months that I'll I'll put together that builds on what's in the book and teaches people how to work in energy in a new way. Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 45:30

interesting. I think it has something to do with the heart and the present moment.

Anne Tucker 45:34

Yeah, absolutely. It all does. All of it. You know.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:37

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe we can do some channelling.

Anne Tucker 45:41

Yeah, the angels always manage my channel, but then who comes through is sort of the right the right energy for the moment. Yeah, usually these days it's Isla, but we'll see. Okay, we'll see. Yeah. All right. So let's go ahead and ground together first, if you don't mind. Yes. Okay. So go ahead and close your eyes and drop down from your tailbone a nice thick root that goes down through the floor and down into the ground and follow it down with your mind as it grows and extends, growing deeper and deeper into the earth. Following it down where it's dark and cool, extending longer and longer, and follow it all the way down to the very, very centre of the earth. And when it reaches that centre point, feel the root sprout and anchor itself in. As it does, notice that the root is pulling gently and becoming taut, and feel as that tautness moves all the way up the root and all the way up your spine, anchoring you securely to the earth, and I'd like to ask the angels to please help me to be a clear channel of healing and information for us, for our highest and best good. And please help us to receive this healing and information. Thank you, and I will go ahead and connect. Blessings, blessings, blessings, blessings. Hello, hello. I am with you. I am with you. It is what I am. I am here. Hello, Yannika. I am pleased, pleased to be speaking with you. There are many things I would enjoy talking about, but I understand you have questions, so I will be listening.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:19

Wonderful. Welcome. And may I ask who you are?

Anne Tucker 48:24

I am the one you are calling Isla. Isla, representing the first two forms of energy in this universe. I am the mother of souls. I am the mother of creation. I am she who loves.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:44

Wonderful. All right. So I'm going to ask you questions that have come from the Wisdom from North audience, and the first question is: What is the spiritual meaning of chronic illness, especially when it's your child or a loved one who is suffering? What might be the lesson for the parent or family member?

Anne Tucker 49:06

For this, I am I am sorry. I am sorry for what you have had to achieve and acquire in this lifetime. For the pain and the suffering that it brought, there are many lessons to be received from such an experience. There are many blessings within that are not always seen at the onset. There is a causal fabric that exists between a parent and their experience of parenting, between the loving embrace of a couple of a child and their parent, or between loving family members or loving friendships. This fabric can easily rupture and being torn apart. It can easily be tied up within itself. Creating knots of relationship, and these must be untied and worked through over the course of a lifetime. In the celebration of such a connection, of such a loving relationship, which exists outside of time and outside of incarnation, it often occurs to a family to incarnate within a framework of suffering, which will draw them closer, which will create spoken truths and unspoken truths, which are deeply felt. There's a resonance and a frequency to these experiences, which generate a rupture from old ways of being-they are cathartic. They are some of the most cathartic moments, and they draw you away from old ways of being, from locked-in identities and forms of self which you could not otherwise escape from. Therefore, they are deeply healing. Deeply healing. It is freedom that you have been wanting-freedom from self, freedom from what was in other lifetimes, in other ways of self-knowing, and thus there is often an exchange made between two souls that wish to incarnate to share this healing relationship, where one one does embody such tragedy, and the other experiences that tragedy is suffering, and the two of them are equally freed through this construct, it is it is in all cases a relationship of deep trust and trust building, and there are ruptures which come and go throughout this process. It is not always easy, and you are not always expected to be harmonious or to love this experience. It is not made thus; it is instead an experience of truth finding about self and other, and this truth has a resonance of self-acceptance. Do you understand me?

Jannecke Øinæs 52:08

Thank you, thank you. Yes, I do. All right, over to the next question. Our predictions about major Earth changes, like polar shifts, a new ice age or mega tsunamis still relevant, or can these timelines change?

Anne Tucker 52:28

Let's see. Let's see. Let's see what you are asking. Am I am I free? Am I safe? Am I safe? Am I safe? Is the world changing? Yes, it is. The world is changing very much. There is so much, so much change. Vibrations of change are emanating from the earth herself. She shall rupture as she does. She shall change her frequency. Cannot remain what it was. It must change. Is there freedom in this? Absolutely. It will generate new levels of abundance eventually. Eventually, your world will prosper. It will thrive because of these experiencings of the Earth's rupture. What form shall this rupture take, and will it weigh heavy on humanity and on the populations of this planet? It may. It may. It is not always a decided thing. What I would say is your prayers have a purpose, and they are inventive. You can make them up, and they have an effect. Your intention is what causes a change in things. To be accepting of the earth to be her witness to come not to eliminate her journey, not to prevent her rupture, but to soften the exchange through the process of acceptance, through acceptance of what she needs to express, and allowing the grace to observe it, and this will potentially change how these ruptures are experienced at this time. Are these ruptures likely to happen? I can only speak to what I perceive as the Earth's current state of anxiety and experience, and I would say that she is deeply rattled, that she is not well within, that she has even now a sense of herself as pulling apart. Thus, I would anticipate an increase in earthly ruptures.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:39

Okay, all right. I'll jump over to the next question. Can music carry a high or low vibration, and can certain music affect our consciousness in ways we're not aware of?

Anne Tucker 54:54

Yes. Yes, it can. I can elaborate if you wish. There. There. There. There. There's something to this which must be understood, which is that music carries the consciousness of the player, of the player, of the one who is singing, of the one who is drumming, of the one who plays plays the frequency that emanates from the instrument. The consciousness is theirs that you have brought down and played and replayed for yourselves, but and this is where it gets more interesting: is that consciousness, once it evolves into form, into the form of a book, or a song, or a movie, or any such thing, once it has become something of itself and has been released into the world. It evolves as its own consciousness, and it becomes something that is held by many. And many may contribute their own feeling energies to that song or experience. Thus, it takes on the consciousness of what is often experienced during the listening, of how it is used. For example, there are some songs that become equated with political marches that carry a frequency which is often used in football games or other types of experiences where you need only hear a few notes, and you are already there in that experience. And perhaps the song was not written with this in mind, but it became this through usage and through the participation of many souls who co-created a new meaning for that Song. Therefore, when you are listening, discover how it affects your own experience emotionally, and you may choose: does this vibrate in a way that I am enjoying or not? And you may choose and select what you allow into your own world, based on that, do you understand me?

Jannecke Øinæs 57:06

Yes, thank you. And speaking of music, I have a question: Why do we see the number seven again and again? Seven notes, and then an octave, and seven colours, and why do we see seven all the time? And uneven has seven stages in her book.

Anne Tucker 57:24

She does. She does. She does. She does. Seven. Seven is a frequency. A number is merely a statement of observance. It is how you observe things. Seven equates to something. It is the number of reunion. Seven is the state at which there is a release and a reconnection to the one. It is not so much a number as you understand it, as merely a figure that you can draw and understand, or a quantity of things. It is a frequency of return. It is the number, the number, as you would say, at which things become pleasant, where things become settled, where they die down, where they stop interacting and opposing forces, where they come into union with themselves. Do you understand me?

Jannecke Øinæs 58:21

Yes, it makes sense, and we have seven days in the week. I mean, we see seven, seven everywhere.

Anne Tucker 58:27

Yes, yes.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:29

Interesting. Another question: Who was Jesus from a spiritual perspective, and was he divine, an advanced being, an extraterrestrial, or something else,

Anne Tucker 58:43

Jesus, Jesus, or Yeshua, as you prefer to name him, is absolutely as divine of a being as you are, a divine being, absolutely a divine, a divine, divine being, and has become even more so in terms of his connection to compassion and freedom. His his embodiment of Christ consciousness is what is important. What he allowed through him as a human creature to allow the consciousness of all that is to move through his body, universal universal comprehension came through him, and this is what made him unique. He came as a soul who was committed to that embodiment, and thus his expression of light became palpable, and affected many, and rippled out as a consciousness which could infect the next, the next, the next, the next, because it awakens. It awakens. This is why he was so impactful in his short life, because he was able to transmit a consciousness to the earth planet. And this is why you consider him to be the son of God, though you are all equal to that son or daughter. You are all equal, equal, equal. There is not one who is better than the next. There is no one above or below? This is not how it works. You are merely experiencing yourselves in different cycles of experience, and this is all. And Jesus or Yeshua was and is a soul that expanded himself to such a degree that consciousness poured through him while he was incarnated, and this created a ripple that is still lasting and still important. But I would say for yourselves something important: that he will not return in the way that is spoken of, not as a person, not in one unity, one form of being that was the seed that was planted long ago, the beginning of this now stage that you are experiencing. But for this next entry, for this stage, for the fifth stage that you are occupying, it must be many. It cannot be one. It is evolution from within the collective, and many hearts are at work. There must be an embrace of self that occurs within the hearts of many light workers, and these altogether form Christ consciousness on the earth. So in this era that you are existing, it has to be many that become Christ. Do you understand me?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:52

Well, I think I do. Yeah, it it does make sense. Thank you. My last question from a person who's wondering about if we're living in some kind of simulation, if our reality will split, and if we are in a simulation, does it ever end?

Anne Tucker 1:02:15

I would like to talk about this, for there are frameworks of talking about yourselves, some give grace and some do not. The concept that you are merely programming like a computer does not contain within it a friendship to yourselves. It dismisses your consciousness as something that is merely bits and bytes, as if you could be eliminated with a keystroke, or created by something that does not come through divinity, and this is not the case. Therefore, I don't choose to use the word simulation. However, however, you can use it as a construct, as a metaphor for understanding that the reality that you exist within is not what it seems to be, and this is true, it is in fact a field of vibration that is co-created and shared among you, and you do have the potential to change it. You have the ability to evolve from within it, and it evolves through you, and it is in fact changing. The new reality that you are generating is not a place that you will leave to get to, that you will arrive to on a ship. It is no such thing. It is in fact a state of consciousness, a frequency you hold inside the body and generate between you. It is as if you are altogether weaving a tapestry that is a shared reality, and the current shared reality or tapestry is deeply woven with many layers of historical reference. It has colours and caverns and many textures that are rich, and there are places where things have become unwoven and dropped off, where you have changed the tapestry and let it evolve through time. As you move to the next state of consciousness, you move into a new weaving, where each time you are able to fully embrace yourselves in a moment, in a second. Even it is as if you lay down a thread of a new tapestry that then becomes co-created as others join you in that frequency, and you will lay down and you will weave between you what is agreed upon as the new earth until it becomes something visible and experienceable as a shared memory between you, and this then becomes building, building, building over time, increasingly real and palpable. And eventually, you will find yourself spending more time in that frequency, in that way of understanding, and less time in this one. And then eventually, the old one will fall away completely. Do you understand me?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:05

Very interesting. Thank you.

Anne Tucker 1:05:07

You are welcome.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:10

I think we can bring Anne back. Thank you so much.

Anne Tucker 1:05:14

It has it has been a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Blessings. Blessings. Goodbye,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:21

goodbye. All right, welcome back.

Anne Tucker 1:05:29

Thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:31

She's so sweet. I thought she was so sweet.

Anne Tucker 1:05:34

Yeah, she is. She's super loving, like super, super loving. That's the main thing I feel when she comes through, is I just feel how much she loves. Yeah, it's really amazing. It's very activating for me. Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:47

I'm curious. Do you have any comments about what came forward now in this session?

Anne Tucker 1:05:52

I don't know. I don't know what. Give me. Tell me what you talked about. Give me a hint. I can't remember very well, and I'm not. I. I don't currently. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not getting anything. So if you give me a hint, though, stuff will come back.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:03

Reality, for instance. So what is reality simulation? We we had did a lot of different questions.

Anne Tucker 1:06:10

I saw the tapestry. She showed me. I was seeing the weaving of a tapestry. So she probably talked about that. That was a visual I had. So so which I love that metaphor. She's used that metaphor before, and I think it's beautiful. I always see it as like these golden threads that she's laying down, and I and it helps me to understand the concept that our whole universe is just a field, that it is a field of vibration, and so so is our like our reality is a field of vibr. So whenever I think about like okay, like I think of like this book is like solid. Like I can touch it and I can turn pages and it feels solid, but it's not. Like this is just a vibration, and it's in between every little molecule. There's like more space than anything else. There's like mostly emptiness, but we think of it as solid because it's vibrating slow enough that it becomes dense so we can touch it. And if we think about everything in our shared reality, it's just that. It's literally just vibrating, and we assign it to things. It makes you realise how easy it is to change things. That things aren't nearly as solid or as as ground in. And and and I I I can definitely experience that when it comes to healing. That there are things about myself that I thought I could never heal. That I thought like that I was like, I recognise that's a pattern, and I do not know how I could ever change it because it's just who I am, and I have changed it. And this is some of it is physical stuff. Like I healed, like I thought I was never going to be able to have like dairy and gluten, and now I can. And but it's also emotional things. Like I thought that I would always struggle with self abandonment in certain types of relationship, where I would, you know, I would, I would feel this grip inside of me, and I thought, how could I ever heal that? And it's, it's gone. I don't experience that at all anymore. And I'm, I'm free. I feel free to say what I want, say my needs, and I, I don't have that same constriction that I thought was impossible to change. And so, and I see it happening. I see it happening not just in me, but in others too. That that things are not nearly as solid as as they feel, and so I think it's really liberating when we recognise everything is just a field of vibration.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:13

Thank you for sharing that because that's very inspirational. Because I think we can go into the default of thinking, oh, it works for others, but it doesn't work for me, and this can never be resolved. And that-that is sort of this old record. This can never work. This can never be solved. But I can also feel that I-it feels like I'm a person from another incarnation, almost that I can't recognise myself because I feel so happy all the time, and I did not used to. Yeah, there was always an a problem, always an issue. But now I just feel so much joy, and I'm like, this is not me. I was always used to complain about things, and I was depressed, and this and that, and now it just feels so light.

Anne Tucker 1:08:59

Yeah, yeah, it's marvellous. It really is. It is. I I consider myself first and foremost a healer, and I I channel. And many people know of me as a channel, but I am like my purpose for being in all of the work that I do is healing, and I I run healing programmes, and that is that's that is where my joy is because I see that same experience that you're talking about, and that I have had, that I see it happen for other people, and there's nothing better. There's nothing better. It's amazing, you know, when you see people who like it's the gamut. It's physical healing. It's emotional healing. It's freedom, you know, freedom. And so that's that's what lights me up. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:37

And since we're on the subject, please share where can people connect with you? How can they work with you? I just want to mention that you're also actually one of our masterclass teachers in our own Wisdom From North Membership So for all our members, you can watch Anne Tucker's class there. But how else can they connect with you?

Anne Tucker 1:09:57

Thanks so much for asking. I I do have. My soul convergence programme is starting in starting in pretty soon in just a couple weeks, mid September, we begin, and that is my deepest healing programme. It's the one that helps you to access and to heal the kinds of issues that that start from the womb all the way up through age seven. It's the stuff that's really really hard for us to get to on our own because we don't necessarily have memories of it or the ability to process it, and so this process guides people through the process of of safely integrating those experiences. So it's it's one of the greatest ways to shift the the karmic patterns, the things we're talking about, the stuff like the where you just keep re-experiencing the same problems or frustrations. Soul convergence addresses that, and I'm really excited this time. I'm actually beginning with a a new process where I'm going to show people how, like, teach them about the healing process itself. Like, what is it that? And it's all guided by the angels. Soul convergence is led by the angels. It's all when I'm in trance, but I'm going to guide them through understanding how it works, so that they can, at the end of it, know how to heal themselves. So it's it's. I'm really excited about it. So there's that, and then I have a retreat coming up in October. So people want to come and be an amazing community of people and be with me in person. It's in Seattle in October, like mid October, october 12, I think something in there. I'm not good at dates, but it's mid October in Seattle. We're going to be live for my Expand Your Heart retreat, which is one of my favourite events of the year.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:27

Beautiful, and then obviously it's the book

Anne Tucker 1:11:30

in the book, which is on Amazon, and this is what it looks like. So the map to New Earth, yeah. So thank you so much. I appreciate appreciate you asking. It's wonderful to be able to share that with people.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:39

Lovely. I have a few questions I ask everyone, and I've asked you before, but maybe the answer has changed. What is self love to you?

Anne Tucker 1:11:50

Oh, I love that question. Self love, from my perspective, is the integration of all parts of ourself. It's when we come to a space where we are no longer denying any experience of our life where there's nothing that we're trying to hide from or to repress, where we get to a state where we no longer deny ourselves that that that either we said, did, felt, experienced anything, and we get to a space where we say it happened, and I love myself anyways, and I love myself through it, and that to me is self love.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12:22

And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Anne Tucker 1:12:25

Oh, what is the deeper meaning of life? I mean, like a lot, all of life to me is super deep. Like it is all super deep. I would say the deeper meaning is like really there's at the root of it. It's like the joy and curiosity and love and it's like trying to free ourselves up for those experiences of trying to be able to allow ourselves to move through life with joy, curiosity and love. Like try to return to our childlike awe, you know, to get back to that. That's sort of the deeper meaning of life. How do we return to what we were before we got all our wounding, you know.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13:06

Beautiful, Anne. Well, it has been such a joy having you back. So thank you so much, and thank you for your work.

Anne Tucker 1:13:12

Thank you. Beautiful, beautiful conversation. I loved it. Thank you.