The Alien Hybrid Program: What 5,000 Regressions Revealed! With Barbara Lamb

Barbara Lamb 0:00

So many of the beings whom I have come across in people's regressions are very benevolent and very caring about humanity. There's a lot of negative press and what we think their intentions are, but what I have found, they're not out to take over the earth or to invade us, and they have wonderful, wonderful ways of picking up where something is malfunctioning in the human's body. If they notice that there's something wrong with the organs, they will just usually go ahead and heal it. And they all seem to be working totally in rhythm with each other,

Jannecke Øinæs 0:40

like on the same ship, like these different beings are together on the same ship.

Barbara Lamb 0:46

Yes, and so these different species are around the table. The person is typically lying on it. Very often, in the background, is a very tall being, what we call a mantis, and that mantis being seems to be overseeing the procedures. Sometimes people are taken to a ship and are shown to their own hybrid child.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:16

I'm wondering if the clients have been speaking about or having received information about the future of our planet.

Barbara Lamb 1:23

Yes, some of them do.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:31

Hey, I know it can get annoying when YouTubers ask you to subscribe, but if you do subscribe, you are supporting the channel and you are getting notifications of new videos, and it only takes a couple of seconds. Thank you so much, Barbara Lamb. A warm welcome to the Wisdom From North show.

Barbara Lamb 1:49

Thank you. Pleased to be here.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:53

You know, I'm so honoured to have you here. To me, you are a legend because I've known of your work since 2012 when I started my YouTube channel Wisdom from North, and we finally made it happen now. So I can't wait to dive deep today.

Barbara Lamb 2:12

Okay,

Jannecke Øinæs 2:13

because you are, I would say, one of the best known figures within the field of extraterrestrial contact experience, and you are a world-renowned hypnotherapist, regression therapist. You regressed over 5000 people, and you are an author. Now you're going to speak at the San Diego Transcendence Retreat, and I'm going to be there too. So I can't wait to meet you in person.

Barbara Lamb 2:40

Good, me too.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:42

Now, my first question is actually looking back at your body work of more than three decades. What has surprised you the most and excited you the most that you are really excited to share with the world and are passionate about sharing.

Barbara Lamb 3:02

Well, it's that so many of the beings whom I have come across in people's regressions are very benevolent and very caring about humanity and caring about our planet Earth, and I say this with joy, really, because there's so much talk out there among the public, I think, and and in certain media about the fearsome extraterrestrial beings and the danger, and how we have to really watch out and protect our country from what they might do, like invading or something. I mean, there's a lot of negative press, in other words, about the beings and what we think their intentions are. But what I have found with person after person in their experiences with the beings, those beings do not try to do anything negative like that. They're not out to take over the earth or to invade us or anything negative of that sort, but they are very interested in certain individual humans, and they like to visit the humans and take them away onto their spaceships for a while. Usually, an hour, hour and a half, or two hours, and they do various things with the people. There's a whole range of things that the beings do with the people on the ship. So no matter what they look like, it really makes sense what the beings are doing when. We really get into a regression to a person's personal experience with one or more of the beings. So I have learned a lot, and that's the main way that I have learned about this phenomenon is by regressing people who have had experiences with them, and many people come to me who are not sure that they've had extraterrestrial encounters, but they they all know that something really weird, strange happened on certain occasions, and they they just didn't know what to make of it, and then you know eventually they wondered, "Wow, I wonder if that could have been an extraterrestrial encounter. So some people come to me with that sort of background, that they're wondering if the odd experiences they've had could have possibly been an extraterrestrial encounter, and usually it turns out that those were actually Extraterrestrial encounters, and there are many, many beings who come and visit people. Many, many who are very interested in humanity, our human race, and some of them are more sort of scientific about it, they want to know how our bodies work and how our minds work, and so forth. And they, they seem to be a little bit more sort of regimented, and not so relational with the people they take, but some of the beings really just go right into helping the person, maybe examining the person physically, the person's body, and they have wonderful, wonderful ways of picking up where something is malfunctioning in the human's body, and then, if they notice that there's something wrong with one of the systems or one of the organs, they will just usually just right then and there go ahead and heal it, and that is really wonderful for the person who's been taken, and they have been known to heal a tremendous number of conditions that we humans have that go wrong sometimes, and then on some occasions, they've been examining a person on the ship, and then they've determined, oh, there's some malfunctioning or a problem with this person's liver, or kidneys, or maybe some other organ, and instead of healing it themselves, on some occasions, they will tell the person, "When you go home again, be sure to go to your doctor, and have your doctor really test this particular organ that they have noticed, and and ask him for remedies for that, so in one way or the other, the beings are very often facilitating physical healing with the people they take, and these experiences for the people are really quite interesting once they actually get into one in regression, and usually they will describe the place that they're in as looking quite different than anything we have here. In other words, they'll describe.

It seems to be a round room with curved walls, no corners, and the walls seem to just go right up in a dome shape over the rest of the room, and the room is usually completely white and brightly lit in most cases, especially if there's going to be a physical examination, and sometimes they will see other humans there in the same room, if it's quite a large room, or sometimes those humans will seem to be lying on other tables like. This person is, and maybe that the other people have beings around them, paying complete attention, giving total focus to each one of them, and it's very interesting, at least to me, in regressing them when the people describe the beings who are there in the room with them, and there are many, many different kinds of beings who work on people when they're on the ship, and they seem to be working together very well, these different species of beings. So there might be a little grey being, or even more than one, and there might be a tall white being, totally white. There might be a blue Arcturian, or other coloured beings from different planets, and they all seem to be working totally in rhythm with each other, like knowing what each other are doing,

Jannecke Øinæs 11:12

like on the same ship, like these different beings are together on the same ship.

Barbara Lamb 11:19

Yes, and so these different species are around the table that the person is typically lying on. If there's some sort of examination going on, and then very often people describe that in the background, a few feet away from these other beings, is a very tall being, what we call a mantis being, looking very much like a a giant praying mantis, and that mantis being seems to be overseeing the procedures, kind of checking in and overseeing what the other beings are doing with the person, as if he's in charge. So the mantis beings don't usually do the actual examining work or healing work with the person, but they're they're right there, keeping an eye on the whole procedure, making sure everything goes well, and that the person is doing all right too. So, on other occasions, sometimes people have experiences simply with a mantis Being, in fact, a few clients I have worked with have been taken each time they have one of these experiences. They're taken from their home by a very tall mantis being, often in a long white robe, taken to the ship, where then other people, other beings, might take over and do the work with the person. So there are many, many different things that happen beyond the physical examinations and Healings. Sometimes people are taken to a ship and are shown or introduced to their own hybrid child or children, and maybe up until that point of time, the woman or man doesn't even know that he has had hybrid children, because they all were gestated mostly on the ship, and were quote unquote born out of a tank of fluid on the ship, and so sometimes it's a great surprise to the human that to be on a ship and then be introduced to a hybrid baby and told that that's their baby, or even a hybrid child might be a toddler age child, or or older than that, and some people I have regressed, who have had hybrid children, are taken to a number of different situations that the hybrid children are in. In other words, one woman was taken on the ship and into a room which was like a big classroom for hybrid children, and it was pointed out to her the two children among them who. Were her own hybrid children, which she had not known before that, and so she watched for quite a while, and the children seemed to be all sitting on the floor, different ages, all mixed in together, all hybrids sitting on the floor and listening to adult extraterrestrials who were the teachers, and on one occasion the lady sort of followed them as they left that classroom, and followed them into an equivalent of a cafeteria where they had a meal, and she saw how they were sitting at little tables together and talking and eating and serving themselves food, cafeteria style, and so in other words, she got to see some of the life of the hybrid children, a couple of which were hers, so there's a lot of work that I've done about the hybrid beings, including the hybrid beings who are born here on Earth, and those hybrid beings look very, very human. People would not suspect that they're anything else, and they are born here of human parents, the way that we all give birth, and they grow up from infancy, right through early childhood and the rest of childhood, teenage years, and so forth, and into adulthood, and during those years, they know that there's something different about them, although they don't look different than other children they know, but they feel even different than their own human parents because they have extraterrestrial DNA in them, and that means that they have different abilities that most of us humans don't have-they have a whole range of psychic abilities, and a big ability to do healing, healing with energy from their hands, and in some cases, they say, when confronted about that, they say, "Yes, I was taught by my my family out there in space, my real family. So a lot of them do healing, and they can do psychometry and various other psychic abilities, and they can do telepathy.

And this is a little bit disarming sometimes to other people, when one of these hybrids who looks like a regular person can read their thoughts, and very often the hybrids have learned to just keep that to themselves because it seems to be upsetting for the person whose thoughts they have have read and repeated, as you can imagine. So anyway, these hybrids grow up to do a mission that they have come to do, that they were created to do, and basically that mission is to help to upgrade the consciousness of humans, as many humans as they can reach. So, as adults, they very often have podcasts, and they very often do teaching and training on those podcasts. Or sometimes, like yourself, they bring in other people who can do some of the teaching, sharing of information about all of this, and then very often these hybrids do things too, like psychically locating lost animals or communicating directly with animals Telepathically, some of them in the book that I wrote with Miguel Mandanza, called "Meet the Hybrids. Some of those people had very frequent telepathic. Communication with all kinds of animals and even birds and even reptiles. One of them, one of the hybrids, was just so in love with snakes of all kinds, even poisonous snakes, and would just find them, pick them up, talk to them, cuddle them, have them wrap around them around her, and totally fearless because she was in good communication telepathically with the snake. So it's kind of amazing to a person like me, who would not be comfortable with a snake, even a non-poisonous one. But this particular person is is really really good at that. Another one of the hybrids is very very good at helping the police to find not only lost animals but lost children, she can psychically know where they are, and psychically communicate with the child, and reassure the child that help is coming. People know where you are now, and they will come and find you. It's all right. You're you're safe. So I mean that sort of thing is a really wonderful service that some of these hybrids give. So some of the hybrids are here for a particular, specific mission, and some of them are here for more an overall, general mission. But it seems to be a totally good programme, and the way that the hybridization happens typically is that eggs are taken from a human woman, and she's in an out of consciousness state, so she doesn't even know that's happening. And then they take sperm from a human man, and if the woman is married and has a husband, the sperm would be taken from that man. If she isn't with a partner, they would take it from some other man of interest to them, so they take the sperm and the egg and mix it together on the ship, and create a new embryo. And then right away, when the embryo is just being formed, they add genetics from at least one extraterrestrial species, sometimes from two or three or four or five or six different species of extraterrestrial DNA, and add that to this new little embryo, and then they visit the mother again, and implant that embryo in her womb, and they leave that embryo there for usually two months or maybe two and a half months, in some instances, during which time the woman begins to feel like she is pregnant, and and of course she is pregnant, and she'll go to a doctor, and the doctor will test her and validate that yes, indeed, she is pregnant now. In some cases, that's sort of all right because, in the sense that she's married and they've been thinking of having children. In some cases, however, the woman has not been together with a man for years, or in some cases ever, and yet here she is pregnant. So it's a complete mystery, and that mystery goes on for a couple a couple of months. Excuse me, maybe two or two and a half months, and and then suddenly one morning she wakes up, and she doesn't feel pregnant any more, and indeed she isn't pregnant any more because the beings have come in the night unbeknownst to her, and have removed.

That embryo developing in her womb, and then they put the embryo in a special tank of liquid, looking like water, but it's probably some other special liquid on the ship, and the little embryo gestates into a foetus and and remains there for the rest of the gestation time, and then is taken out of the tank, and is quote unquote born, and wrapped up in blanket-like clothing and cared for, raised by the extraterrestrials, the woman at home doesn't know anything about that. She just knows that she's not pregnant anymore, and usually she'll get that validated by a doctor too. And it's quite a mystery about why she isn't pregnant anymore. So anyway, that's how the hybridization happens with the hybrids who are going to remain on the ship, live their entire life on the ship, as differentiated from the hybrids who gestate full term in the mother's womb here on Earth and are born here on Earth, so I say there are two basically different categories of hybrids. There is more that could be said about all of that, and I'm just now starting to write another book, my sixth book, with a woman who is a hybrid herself, and whose mother she knows also had hybrid children, and she has had hybrid children who are currently living on the ship. Anyway, we're writing a book together. Don't have a name for it yet, but in a few months that will be ready for people to learn from as well. So it's it's a big phenomenon. The whole thing, the extraterrestrial phenomenon, is really huge, in that it affects so many people. It changes everything.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:36

It changes how we look at look upon life and the nature of reality, and ourselves, and our place in the cosmos. And if I may just jump in here, I mean, I love your excitement, your passion about this topic. I know you can speak for hours about it, and just imagining everyone you've met that have these stories, like the the knowledge you have from that is. I'm very glad you're writing these books, so we can dive deeper. Now, the story you just told about the hybrid programmes are these the same stories you hear again and again from those you are regressing, or do you see sometimes variations? Some clients might share other types of stories that vary a bit, or is it sort of a consensus of what they are experiencing that makes you really feel that this is real, this is true? Because it, you know, to us who haven't experienced this, or I wouldn't know, but you don't think so. I wouldn't know. It sounds like a fairy tale. It sounds too great to be true, right? So, was that why you sort of felt that this is true? Because they all told the same story.

Barbara Lamb 29:02

Yes, they they have all told the same story. It's it's different, of course. If the hybrid baby is going to be developing and live on the ship, that's different than the hybrid who is gestated fully in the mother's womb and is born here on Earth and lives here as a human, and yet with extraterrestrial DNA, and there's variation in the sense of the types of beings involved in this hybridization project, the types of beings who have given their DNA to the new little embryo. So there's variation in that sense, but otherwise, it's very, very much the same story.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:00

That's interesting.

Barbara Lamb 30:01

So it's happened with so many people, people who didn't consciously know about that before they did the regression. So it's happened with so many people that I have come to the conclusion that I think this really must be going on, even if we had not heard of it before.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:26

Right, but it's coming more forward, more and more now. Why do you think that these extraterrestrials are having these programmes, and are they're still going on?

Barbara Lamb 30:39

As far as I know, they're still going on. Yes, and there must be a tremendous amount of hybrids now, especially the hybrids living on the ships, growing up, and and living on the ships. So, over the years, with various regressions, sometimes the beings have given reasons to the person for why they are creating a hybrid. One of the typical reasons has been said by several different beings. Well, I would say many different beings, over the the years that I've been doing this work, is that they are trying to save their own race, and they will usually tell the person, "We have lost our ability to reproduce. Some of them have lost that ability because of so many 1000s of years of cloning new life forms instead of reproducing children themselves, that they have lost the ability to reproduce, and another group of beings said, "We have lost the ability to reproduce because we have travelled so much in space. So many of us have been travelling so many times in space, and picked up radiation. You know there are radiation belts out there in space. They picked up enough radiation so that they've diminished their ability to physically reproduce offspring, and some of these beings have just flat out said, "We are doing this with you, creating hybrids because we don't want to see our race die out, and it's better to have offspring who have some human DNA, as well as ours, so that the whole race of ours will not perish forever. And some of them have said things like, "Oh, we do hybridization with you humans because we want the quality of emotion that you have and we don't have, or in some cases, some species don't have very much of it, and they look at humans and they look at all that comes out of our emotion, for good and for bad, but they they look particularly at the arts and the music, and the love and the relationships, and all kinds of wonderful things that come for humans because of the capacity to feel the emotion of love, and they know that the love of our children, or the love for our children, is very, very important for the nurturing and the well-being of the children, and that's why, very often, a woman who has had a hybrid child, maybe one of those hybrid children who's growing up on the ship in a tank of special fluid, after the first couple of months of being in her womb, she is often taken when that child, that baby, is taken out of the tank and is born, and she'll be taken. To that child, and ask to hold the child, and to nourish, and to love that hybrid child. So you can imagine that different women, different human women, react differently to that request. Some women take right to it, having been told that that is her child, and although that might be a total surprise to her, she can sort of relate to that, and and she'll just take that baby and hold the baby and nurture it, and look at it, and cuddle it, and then that baby is taken from her arms, and taken by the E.T.s to raise, having had that bit of human affection and love, which is very important. So, the the beings realise that because this baby has some human DNA in it, it will definitely need some human love and affection with their own extraterrestrial babies and children. That's not the case because they they don't have that need for love and affection and nurturing because they don't have that human gene in them, so it's it's very interesting.

And some women, of course, are so shocked by this whole thing that suddenly they're in a strange place, on a ship, with unusual beings who are not human, and then they're given a baby to hold and love, who is not fully looking human, mostly not looking human, and some of the women are just too unnerved, too distressed, too shocked to really give love to that little baby, that hybrid baby. So that's a shame. And sometimes that kind of woman might be taken on a slightly later occasion when the baby isn't a newborn, the baby on the ship, and maybe the the woman, because it looks a little bit more like a human baby by that time, the human can find that ability to love the baby and and nurture it. So so that's Good, and then

Jannecke Øinæs 38:02

I just want to jump in, if I may. For me, it sounds a little bit that the agenda is quite egoistic. I know this is judgmental, totally, but it seems like this is very traumatic for the women experiencing this. It's all of it, you know that the eggs being taken and for men the sperm and then being taken on a ship and seeing a child that you birth the child that you doesn't look like a human and I have heard during my years of interviewing that it was the zetas the greys that did this, and that it felt quite frightening that it wasn't the Octarians and the Pleiades because I haven't heard that they had problems with reproducing. But there are so many different species within the Pleiades and Octarians and Andromedas as well. But you would assume that they also would be so highly intelligent that they could fix that in a way. It seems like are we humans like the answer to them? I thought that it was sort of the other way around that they are the wise ones and we're waiting for this big disclosure where they are not coming to rescue us, but they're saying that we have the power, and we need to empower ourselves. But it seems like this is the other way around-that we are the solution to them. And then I'm thinking, what about free will?

Barbara Lamb 39:34

Well, I know that's a very good question. Very, very important for us humans, isn't it? I mean, we really value that very, very much. So, when some of these women or men have asked about that, they are told by the beings in one of these experiences. That they actually did give permission when they were still a soul waiting to come into this particular lifetime, and this apparently is a typical thing for experiencers that when the soul is ready to come into a lifetime as a human. The a couple of the beings will come into that sort of planning period and ask if, in this life, the person would cooperate with them and do some projects with them to help them, and the soul of the person has said yes, yes, I will do that. Among all the other things I'm going to be doing in that life, I'll do that too if that's a big help for you. So, in other words, many of these people I have worked with have been told by the beings that they had originally made a soul agreement, a soul contract with them to interact with them on occasion and help them out, and one of the ways that they help them out is by having a hybrid child, whether it's a hybrid child who lives here on Earth or one who lives on the ship. So when people realise, oh, of course, I don't remember what I agreed to when I was a soul, before incarnating. But, but if I did, well, oh, okay, that's all right. So you see, there are various species out there, which we call extraterrestrials, who are in danger of not being able to reproduce, and therefore their species would die out, and and that's why so many of them like to have human DNA, the human body, from their point of view, the human body is more robust, more hearty, more strong, in most cases, and some of these species really need those ingredients that we have, at least as part of them, and some of the extraterrestrial species would really like to see beings who are part human and part their race, in order for that hybrid to be able to go back and forth, and relate to humans and relate to that species out in space, kind of a go-between, kind of an ambassador. So I think that that actually makes some sense. So that hybrid might be a man, a human man, and it might be a human woman.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:32

Right,

Barbara Lamb 43:32

but still for the same purposes.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:36

Have you had any knowledge coming through or information coming through about the the shift of consciousness, whether they are also interacting with us to raise the consciousness on the planet. That's something I hear again and again.

Barbara Lamb 43:55

Oh, that's yes, that's a good point. Yes, definitely. So that by having some of their genetics in us, that definitely raises the consciousness of the hybrid, and then the hybrid can help raise the consciousness of the rest of us by the teaching and sharing and so forth. Yes, that's very much part of it. So I'd like to say also that I have learned that hybridization is a very very common thing out in space. That there are many many races of beings who have hybridised with Other extraterrestrial races of beings, so there's a lot of mixture out there, and they all consider it as part of creation. One way to think of it would be like they're helping God to create new life, new life forms, and so it's happening all over the universe, wherever there is life, not just happening between extraterrestrials and humans on Earth, and when you look at it that way, oh, makes a little bit more sense, I think. Anyway, the people I personally know, and have written about, who are ET human hybrids, living here on Earth, once they find out, usually in their young adult years, once they find out that they are a hybrid, they usually are very, very pleased. They feel honoured, and they also feel relieved because now it explains why they have always felt so different from other people and have had different abilities than most other people. It it kind of brings the mystery of their life to rest, and as I may have said before, they really, really enjoy the visits from the beings who did give them their genetics way back. Another way too that a person can begin as as a hybrid. The the ones who are born here from a human mother and live a whole life here on Earth. In that case, the mother has already been pregnant in the regular way, And maybe is at about seven months or so during gestation, and then she is taken by some of the beings onto the ship, and they inject her with a needle right through her abdomen and through the wall of the uterus and right into the foetus, inject that foetus with extraterrestrial DNA, usually of more than one type of extraterrestrial, and then those that baby will go ahead and continue to develop in the mother's womb and be born here. So there are two basic ways that I know of for this whole process of hybridization To happen, one is with the mixture of extraterrestrial genetics being put into the embryo, and then the embryo being put into the mother's womb, or in the case of the hybrids who are going to be born here and live here on Earth late in the pregnancy, the injection happens of the DNA from the other beings. There's just one hybrid I know of who found out that she was not injected with extraterrestrial DNA until she was already born and living here for six years, and at age six, lo and behold, she was taken, and the injection happened then, and she became a hybrid. But that's the only one I know of who had it happen after being here for a few years.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:07

Do you know if this is going on in the whole world or in certain areas, specifically certain areas in the U.S. or might we, a lot of us, be mothers of hybrids that we don't even know about.

Barbara Lamb 49:24

Oh yes, I'm sure there are many, many we do not know about, and I'm sure that this process happens all over the world. We certainly know that people all over the world, not everybody, but many people all over the world are having encounters with the extraterrestrial beings, and so that hybridization project is probably going on with them too. And then, of course, there's a theory that many. Many people have that all of us human beings were hybridised aeons ago, way back when you know humanity was just starting. That beings came to Earth and either mated with more primitive life forms, or did genetic work, and eventually created what we consider to be human beings. So there are many people who believe that we are all hybrids anyway. So it's not really that strange when you look at it in that light.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:46

Now it seems like they're so involved with us. Why do you think they're not coming forward? Then I mean, we all talk about this closure now when we're waiting for it, and it's sort of happening, and then it's not happening. What are your thoughts about that? And have your clients spoken about that day of disclosure? If we will see it in our in our lifetime,

Barbara Lamb 51:12

well, many of of my clients whom I have regressed have been told by the beings of a number of different types that they know that humans on Earth are very reactive, very trigger happy, and that if they appeared just right out there for everyone to see, that they might get Shot down, and or their their crafts might be shot down, and in many cases, their crafts actually have been shot down by our weapons. So anyway, it's they know it's sort of a dangerous place here on Earth to to visit, and that their safety is definitely not assured, so they're they're waiting for humanity to kind of develop more in their awareness that there are many, many, many other beings in the universe, in our cosmos, in our solar system, even, and waiting for humans to just become more acclimated and more comfortable with the idea, because for many people this is still a brand new idea, and they don't even believe it, and I don't blame them, but I certainly believe it because of working with so many people who've had experiences with them. So I don't doubt it for a moment, but they need to be cautious. They they know that if they appeared in person, like out on the street or in a town or city, that people would be shocked, and a lot of them would react in a very very violent way, because they don't know, they don't know these beings. They don't know that they can trust them, and the beings know this. You see, the beings are so telepathic that even from a great distance, out in space, they they know what humans are thinking. They know what the attitude is of many people. They know that they would be welcomed, and they are welcomed by some people, but by many, they would not be welcomed, and they would be eliminated as soon as possible, as soon as a person could eliminate them, and that's sort of sad. So, frankly, I am glad that there's more and more coming out to people. At least in this country, it's true. Hopefully, in Norway as well, and some of the other countries, because I think the more that we know about them, the more that we would feel accepting about knowing that they are here. Does that make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 54:35

Definitely. But what I am curious about is if they are much more advanced than we are, why would they be afraid of us again? Giving us sort of the power to be threatening towards them because they could just disappear with their ships or make themselves invisible. I mean, they they seem to have these superpowers. Right, so I think it's weird to hear stories where a UFO have crashed because I'm thinking, why did that happen? Maybe they did it on purpose. I don't know. Like I would think that they are so much more advanced that that wouldn't be an issue at all.

Barbara Lamb 55:19

Well, sometimes their ships have deliberately landed peacefully, with no effort on anybody's part to shoot them down. They have, for instance, there's a group back in the 1950s, I think it was, that landed near White Sands Missile Base in New Mexico, where a lot of secret projects were going on by humans, and so this ship came from planet Serpo, and it made a peaceful landing, and got out of the ship and met with the humans. The humans, fortunately, didn't try to kill them. They were just very interested. Oh wow, we get to know somebody from another planet, and those members, a few of them lived there with the humans at White Sands Missile Base, and they taught the humans a lot about their species and about their planet. And eventually, after several years, they mutually agreed the beings and the humans to do sort of an exchange programme. In other words, they they gathered 12 human men who didn't have wives and children, didn't have really close relations of any kind, and and those men volunteered to go on this mission to visit and live on planet Serpo. So I think there were about 12 men, and they actually went, and one of them died on the journey to that other planet. So then there were 11 living on the planet. They were supposed to live there for 10 years, and then be returned to the U.S. But because the sun and that planet had a different relation to each other. What we thought of as 10 years really was more like 11 years in their system. So most of them came back. One of them actually stayed because he had formed a relationship with one of the serpo beings, a woman, woman, and really wanted to live the rest of his life there, and then one had died on the way. So, 10 of them came back, and if you remember back now, years ago, in that movie *Close Encounters of the Third Kind* at the end of that movie, when the big spaceship landed with certain people expecting it to near right right by Devil's Tower in Wyoming. When the craft landed and opened, you could see some unusual-looking beings coming out, extraterrestrial beings, and then a group of about 10 human men with pilot jackets on, pilot caps came out too. So that was a depiction of the men from Serpo who were being returned in a spaceship to Earth. So when I saw that movie back in the late 1970s or 1980, whenever it was, I I had not heard of Planet Serpo and the men who went there, but it was a very peaceful exchange, and apparently a very successful exchange of our people willingly being on another planet for a number of years, living with those beings.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:51

Fascinating.

Barbara Lamb 59:52

There's a lot that goes on. That

Jannecke Øinæs 59:54

yeah, there's so much going on that we don't know about, and we're just scratching. The surface here. Have you watched Steven Spielberg's latest movie, Disclosure? I did. Yeah, it feels like some of what you're describing is what we see in the movie.

Barbara Lamb 1:00:14

Yes, and I actually personally was very confused by the movie with as much as I know about people's experiences, I I couldn't really follow that very well in the movie until the end. It all came together, and one of the things that I really did like was that toward the end of that movie? It showed just for a moment. It showed a scene where there was a little girl lying on a table in a bright environment, and right next to her was a little boy lying on a table in that same environment, and and they looked at each other, and they extended one arm toward each other, and then I realised, because I know that that has happened to many children who've had that experience of seeing another child on the table next to them on the ship, and then then I realised, oh, that must be the children who grew up to be the main woman in the the movie and the main man in who were having unusual experiences and didn't quite know what they were, so that was them as children, and I thought that was that was a good touch to include that.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:52

I loved that movie. I was sad when it was over. I was like, I wanted to go on. I just loved it. I'm wondering if the clients have been speaking about or having received information about the future of our planet while they've been, you know, on ships and stuff like that. If they received information about our current situation and our future,

Barbara Lamb 1:02:16

yes, some of them do. Some of them actually pick up a lot of that information when they're in an experience on the ship that we do the regression to, and some of them just in their regular life do a lot of channelling from some of these beings, and very often they know which kind of being it is that's giving the information, and they receive it. The woman I'm going to be writing this next book with not only has many experiences on the ship, being taken by the beings on the ship, but she also just in her daily life, very often receives messages, downloads of information from the beings which she really, really values, and we will be including some of those definitely in the book. So many of them say things like they are waiting for humanity to be more open and receptive to really knowing about them and seeing them, and some people are ready and willing, and eager even already. But but many people don't even know about this at all, and many people are sort of spooked by the thought of aliens, and many people have heard negative things that that aliens supposedly do. So we are, as a society on Earth, we are definitely not really ready yet to have face-to-face, conscious, awake contact with them, and they know that, but they're keeping an eye on us, and they can see that many, many more people are learning about this, and and by learning about it, they're getting ready in a small way, at least, for interaction, conscious, awake interaction with them, that it will be coming, it will be happening more and more. But they are concerned, and I am too, that our governments tend to think, of course, in terms of national. Security, and tend to think of the vehicles from space as a real threat, a real danger to our national security, and I'm sure that's true for other countries as well, and so that's kind of a hindrance that's going on now, and that's in contrast to so many people who do really have the personal experiences with them, and realise that once they get over the initial shock, they realise, oh, you know, these beings are very helpful and actually very caring. They just don't express it the way that we do. So one of the things that that many of the experiencers I have worked with have said is that with some of these beings, when they're with them. They can feel a supportiveness. They can feel an unconditional love, and yet the faces of the beings don't change at all. They don't have the kind of musculature and and nerves that we humans have. I mean, we can have so many different expressions when you think about it. We humans, and we can certainly easily smile, so that if when we are feeling loving For another person, a baby, a mate, an animal, whatever, we tend to smile, and it shows on our faces. So they, the beings, might be feeling the same thing. Even the ones who look quite human, like the Pleiadians and the Arcturians, especially, they they may be feeling love, they may be sending loving feelings, loving energies, but it would not necessarily show on their faces, so even if the most loving beings would visit Earth and just be right out there in the light of day for people to see, people if they're not actually close to them, if we'd see them on television, for instance, or movies that we might not feel that benevolent, loving feeling that they would be sending, and we wouldn't see it on their faces because they don't have the apparatus to smile the way that we do. So I think we have to keep that in mind. They're they're different in that sense, and yet many of them are very supportive of humans and very very loving. So many people describe them as Being overwhelmingly unconditionally loving, so that's wonderful. A lot of them are that way, even though they may not look it. They may not look like they feel that, but the people feel it from them when they are with them.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:40

Yeah, I did notice when I did research before this interview that you mentioned several times in other interviews and talks the the fact that so many of them are benevolent, and I think it's important to focus on that because there is this narrative of the darkness and the abductions and the threats and I think like on Earth there are many different be or many different people humans who have more good intentions and others have bad intentions and I think that's the case in the cosmos as well. It all depends on what we focus on as well,

Barbara Lamb 1:09:24

right? Good for you. And there are some beings out there who people really do not like to be with. There are the little grey beings. Now they are not bad. They're not trying to harm us. They're not trying to take over the world, but they're just very automated seeming. Some of them may be partly machines and partly. Living matter combined together. Some people think that, and so they don't show emotion. They don't show caring. And there are reptilian species, quite a number of different types of reptilian species, and some of them are more fearsome. Some of them are just fine, and you'd be happy to have contact with them once you get over the shock that it's a reptilian being. But anyway, all kinds of beings out there, many many different agendas, and I think that the more that we learn about that from people who have experiences with them, the better. And I think that's better for them too. The more that we learn about them and get ready to accept that they exist, and that they can come here to Earth and interact with many people. They don't interact with all people. Not all people have these experiences, but millions and millions do right.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:22

yeah. I mean, everything unknown is scary, isn't it? And when it's known, it's still scary. Well, this has been so fascinating. I mean, like I said, we're just scratching the surface. I can't wait to meet you in San Diego, and I'll drop a link below for everyone who's excited to check it out, come and meet us. It happens in September 2026. And Barbara, this has been such a joy. I have a few questions I ask everyone, and the first one is, "What is God to you?

Barbara Lamb 1:11:59

Oh, to me personally, well, I think God is the source of everything, and God is the presence, non-physical presence that holds everything together, holds all of creation together, and I think God, this consciousness of what we call God, is open and receptive. I think that we can ask things of it. We can give thanks to it, appreciation to it. So, it's the source. It's it's everything. So the hybrids in our book meet the hybrids. We each asked what they knew God to be, and they said, "Oh, they all said in their own way, 'Oh, it's the overall source of everything. It's the, it's the all, and it is conscious and receptive. So I think that is a wonderful way to look at it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13:26

And my next question is: What is self-love to you personally?

Barbara Lamb 1:13:34

Self-love, I think, is not something selfish. I think it is recognising the special being that each one of us is, and that we are part of the all, part of the great oneness of everything, and Incredibly special, and so self-love is just recognising that not only in this one little self each of us is, but that we're all part of the whole, w h o l e, and part of the the great overall source, we are all precious,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:14:28

beautiful. And my last question: What is the deepest meaning of life from your perspective?

Barbara Lamb 1:14:38

The deepest meaning of life is to find a way that we can be really helpful somehow to somebody, whether that's people we know or people we. Don't know, or a large group of people, or one person, or animals, other life forms, to be here and be aware of the other life forms, including the extraterrestrials, in my opinion, and honour them, treat them with respect, and be helpful in any way that we can, and that's different for each one of us.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:15:38

Thank you so much, Barbara. And if there's anyone out there, or many out there, who wants to perhaps connect with you or learn more, maybe have a regression. I think you recently retired, but is there any way people can learn more from you or find your books? Do you have a website?

Barbara Lamb 1:15:58

Yes. First of all, I retired from my psychotherapy practice, but I'm still very active with my regression therapy practice, and people can find me on my website, which has my books and information about how to contact me, and my website is Barbara Lamb L A M B regression.com BarbaraLambregression.com, and also I have a YouTube channel, which is Barbara Lamb, et regressions.com. Lots of podcasts on that.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:16:51

Wonderful. Sorry, I said that you just retired. I just read it somewhere, and I'm like, but she still is doing talks and writing a book.

Barbara Lamb 1:16:59

No, I'm definitely not retired. Still doing a lot of regressions.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:17:04

Amazing! Wow! Thank you so much for coming on the show. Like I said, I've been really wanting to have you on the show for so many years. So this was a true joy. Thank you so much, and I'll see you soon in San Diego.

Barbara Lamb 1:17:17

Wonderful! Thank you so much.