THEO’s Guidance for Awakening! With Sheila Gillette

Sheila Gillette 0:00

I saw Jesus standing at the end of my bed. My family was being prepared for my death that day. They said she's not going to make it through the day. But I really believed I had a miraculous healing. That was the beginning I had physical phenomena when the angels wanted to talk to me, I'd be sitting in a chair, the chair would physically move one night, my bed levitated. So these were things that were given me to say. This isn't something you're making up. This is something that's outside you, that's here to work with you. If we stay in a positive mode, what if something great is going to happen. Instead of falling back into the old paradigm of fright, flight, fear, we will be participating in the birth of a new order, new way of being. And that's what we've come to do. That's what we incarnate it to do.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:54

You have been teaching Esther Hicks how to channel like that. That's amazing. Would it be okay if you bring Theo here with us?

Sheila Gillette 1:05

Sure I'd love to

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13

Sheila Gillette, a warm welcome to the show.

Sheila Gillette 1:17

It's my pleasure to be here Jannecke.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:20

I'm truly honored to have you. I mean, you've been on the path for, I think, 50 years. You had a near death experience way back when in 69 which opened your abilities. And today, you are channeling Theo. And with that work, you reached hundreds of 1000s of people. You're also a best selling author, and Theo, just to explain that, is from the angelic realm, 12 archangels, and maybe we'll hear from them today, and I have tons of questions on my notebook. However, I'd love to start with your story. Since it's your first time on the show. I'd love for us to get to know you. How did you open up to your psychic abilities way back when, when not many people were channeling?

Sheila Gillette 2:10

Well, that's very true. And in 1969 I had a near death experience after the birth of child. I had pulmonary embolus, which is blood clots in the lungs, and both my lungs were affected, and I felt as if I had an elephant sitting on my chest. I could not breathe. I was in intensive care, and I knew if I closed my eyes, I'd never open them again. And so I just laid in that bed and kept like a mantra, saying, Hey, God, give me a job. I had a brand new baby, two little, small children at home, and I wanted to stay on the planet. And that was just like I said a mantra. And then I had the experience. I was in intensive care in the hospital, a small cubicle room, and that room became extremely bright, as if the sun had risen in the room itself, and to the point where I had to blink my eyes because it seemed so bright, and when I did so, I saw Jesus standing at the end of my bed. You can imagine that was interesting and and I looked in his eyes, and I was mesmerized by his eyes. And then I thought, well, your hair is shorter. He had auburn hair that was about this length. All the pictures I'd seen, all the paintings I'd seen, look quite different, but his eyes were piercing, Hazel, green and and he had this gentle energy. And in that moment, he smiled at me, and I heard in my inner hearing, clairaudiently, I heard a distinct male voice say to me, remember my child, you are loved. And at that point, I felt like the crown of my head opened up in this warm energy just start going down inside my body, and when it came through the trunk of my body, I felt as if I could take a deep breath, and my lungs were non functional. My family was being prepared for my death that day. They said she's not going to make it through the day, which I didn't know till later, but and then I started getting well. So I had the bright light, I had the deity, as in Jesus showing up. But I really believed I had a miraculous healing. And six months after I got out of the hospital. Could hold the energy. I started having all kinds of psychic phenomena physically happening as well as I could hear inner mind messages, like I heard Jesus's voice, and I could do automatic writing, and then I trans spontaneously and direct voice information started coming from me, and I was described then channeling wasn't a term used for what I was doing. I was a direct voice trance medium. That's how it was described by the scientists I worked with. And so it began this journey inside. I knew this was part of the commitment I made to stay, but it was really kind of scary, because I didn't know anybody doing anything like I was doing. I found one Edgar Casey book where he was laying down and channeling direct voice, I went, Oh my gosh, that's what's happening to me. I had that as a guide, and then the angels would teach me, because I didn't have a mentor. But I can tell you that I knew at that time I wanted to be a mentor to others, because I was clearly told many things prophetically that have come to pass by the angels and working with people and knowing information about them that was impossible for me to know. So that was the beginning. I had physical phenomena when the angels wanted to talk to me, I'd be sitting in a chair, the chair would physically move while I was sitting in it. One night, my bed levitated in the middle of the night. So these were things that were given me to say, this isn't something you're making up. This is something that's outside you, that's here to work with you and collaborate with you. So I just kept going. I got an invitation to be tested by scientists and and that was really wonderful, because it it gave me some information that you're psychic, you know you're not crazy, because back in the day, these things weren't openly talked about, and just it kept evolving, working with individuals, and now working and teaching groups of people, and five decades and so many things have come to fruition, but I knew there would be this way, these waves of awakening, of people using their intuitive gifts, becoming the channels that we all are what however, that is addressed in the individual life. You know, not everybody's going to be a direct medium voice, but they're doing it in other ways. We all have our unique gifts that we've come here to experience, to explore and to share.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:18

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Sheila Gillette 9:41

Yes, all along I've been prepared in, as a matter of fact, in early on, in the early 70s and early 80s, when I was getting information about this time, I was doing my first book called The Fifth Dimension channels to a new. Reality. And in that book, the last chapter was prophecy, and they were talking about this time we're living in, about the chaos that would come, the changes that will come by the people. But they said it's beginning now in a Baltic state. Well, the book was released in December of 1988 in 1989 the wall in Berlin came down. Baltic state, Germany is a Baltic state, and that's what they said. It will begin in the Baltic states. And so there's been this EVOLUTION Up until now, but they said all the political structures will dissolve and new will be formed by the people. We'd have a new United Nations that will be more powerful and collaborative than it is today. We would be an global economic structure, which we all know we are. Everything is global. Now they said that the people and the arts and the scientists will be the leaders, not the politician. So it's interesting, as we're seeing all of these structures, these old foundational structures, are dissolving, but new will be formed in a better way. So I am very optimistic. They said out of the chaos will come order and that we're experiencing. They call it theater. It's those acting out in certain ways, in certain ways, to bring in this new development, this new consciousness, so we just have to stay the course and not let fear be our guide.

Jannecke Øinæs 12:09

Fascinating, and to me, I feel there's a great shift going on, especially when I'm listening to other podcasts similar to mine and interviewing all these guests, and then I look at the news and I'm like, Oh, it seems like change is so far ahead. Um, so Did they say anything about okay, when will it get better? Like, when will we experience this fifth dimension and these new government styles that Theo is speaking about

Sheila Gillette 12:41

It's happening now, if you think about it, it's just been since January that this chaos all got very chaotic, and how quickly the people are responding to it. And it's happening throughout the world. It's not just the United States, but it's in every country. People are standing up and saying, This got to be different, you know. So they've likened it to Prager gene theory of the atom, that for an atom to change, to break through to a different version of itself, there's a lot of chaos that goes in on inside of it. So we're in that chaos for the breakthrough that's going to happen, and it's a breakthrough to a better version. So if we stay in a positive mode, what would love do? What? What if something great is going to happen, instead of falling back into the old paradigm of fright, flight, fear, what if horrible things are going to happen? Because it's just that, what up so if, what if something wonderful is going to happen, and be a participant in that we will be participating in the birth of a new order, a new way of being, and that's what we've come to do. That's what we incarnated to do. That's why so many people like yourself are giving the message out to the world. And each and every person, I'm sure your your listeners, your your community, people are having their experiences of really opening up to knowing that they're spiritual, being having a human experience, and they're more powerful than they knew they were before, and now finding out how powerful they are. And that's the whole consciousness that is shifting. And the consciousness that is shifting is a recognition of loving the self changes everything.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:54

I believe that as well, so many people speak about the fifth time. Dimension, and you as well. And I am curious about the fourth dimension, because some are saying that we are moving into fourth dimension. Other are talking about the fifth and that the fourth is time What? What are your perspectives on that what is sort of what?

Sheila Gillette 15:16

So the third dimension, of course, is our physical reality. The fourth has been a spiritual awakening. The fifth is a new vector of time, fifth density, fifth dimension in this becoming aware of who we were, truly are, that we are souls, eternal souls, choosing to have a physical existence on earth. And Earth is one choice. There's billions of them. So we get very myopic in thinking this is all there is we're going to discover now in the fifth dimension. It's been fully in place since 2012 but it had been coming. We've been acclimating to it for at least 100 years. As it was, we were living into it. So the fourth was a gateway, really, to this time for our greater understanding and all the things is waves of awakening with people recognizing that they're more than their physical body, recognizing that this body is a receiver of information, and that the blessing of this body is the ability to use all of our intuitive gifts that the receiver gives us, all the information we receive, whether it's auditory, visual sensor really, to inform us, to inform our path to make decisions by is all a part of recognizing that our soul is very powerful and that we have these gifts to make decisions In our lives and and to be the creators that we are, and do manifestation with the universal energies we have the power to do that, and that's why manifestation is such an interesting topic as well.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:18

Yeah, definitely. I get curious about sort of the importance it feels like that Earth is waking up, like you just mentioned. There are many other earths and many incarnations, and we're multi dimensional, and we're choosing to be here now. Why is it so important? I'm wondering, for the soul to be here and that we're awakening. Because from one perspective, on the other side, we are complete, we are love, we're souls. That's my belief. And then it seems like it's so important that we wake up here as humans, but we have the veil, so we're in the game anyway. So it's sort of a paradox there, I find

Sheila Gillette 18:03

it is. But the beauty of being incarnate on Earth is the body, and we get to learn emotions. And how do we learn emotions? Is through the body. Our body gets the information, and we learn this at birth, you know, and the infant knows if they're in a safe environment. It's just a natural experience in our physicality to give us that information. So we're sentient beings. We're receiving all kinds of information all the time and our body, our mind, the information travels the nervous system to the mind. The mind takes that information and disseminates it to emotions, to how how to react or respond to the stimulus it's getting. Like you said, if you watch the news, oh my gosh. You know, if you just read the headlines to know what's going on, and don't deep dive into it, you can hold your center. It's good to be informed, but to be immersed in it creates a lot of havoc in your body, and it's changing every few hours, actually, is what I'm noticing back and forth. We just have to stay the course in our own personal understanding. And Theo always says, when people say, What can I do? They'll say, ask yourself, what would love do? Is the correct question to be asked, because anything else, any reactivity, other than responding in that way, is a. Action from a belief system about yourself that's untrue, the unworthiness, the unlovableness, all the not enoughnesses. We begin to react in our lives, we notice what we're reacting to, and the whole purpose of that is to inform us of where we created or adopted a belief about ourselves that's untrue because we're magnificent beings, and as we learn that not from conceit or self centeredness or narcissism, but from the truth. As we accept that self love, we will be able to give it to others. We can't give what we do not have, and that's why, when you love yourself, enough miracles happen in your life, and challenge changes, challenge in our lives are just the curriculum of our life we've come here to learn. It doesn't have to define us, but our beliefs do, and beliefs can be changed.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:15

Yeah, I believe that as well. Do you think we carry them on for from different incarnations, or do you think sort of we are a clean slate when we incarnate on the planet, and then we take on different beliefs with the personality

Sheila Gillette 21:31

we're the sum total of all our experiences. So I believe that we do carry some things forward. And Theo speaks of our soul like a diamond with many facets. And they say, what gives the diamond its brilliance, its sparkle, is the light refracting off those facets. So those lifetimes in our multi dimensionality, those times that are influential in the present, is like the light refracting off that particular experience informing us. So I think yes, we do carry some things forward, not everything, not every life has that kind of influence, depending upon what the soul come here to experience and to learn from.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:29

Now I have a self love course that I made in Norwegian. It just came through me. I just had to do it all of a sudden. And many of my course participants express how difficult they find just looking into the mirror, saying nice things about themselves, and it seems like it's so deeply rooted, this this relationship we have to ourselves, talking ourselves down. What is sort of the remedy for that? Do we have to always go back to the child, childhood, you think to know what happened and what our mom said, or go back to that past life to heal it, or is love enough, like shedding light on it and loving that wound or trauma

Sheila Gillette 23:17

like You Zio brought through to me, a process they call the sole integrational process that they were working with individuals when I first began with the process, and we realized that, I realized that they were doing with This with most of my clients. And then I thought, Oh my gosh. You know, this is one on one. This could be a process. It could be utilized by a group, because it's, it's our human process. And so it's interesting to me that this was downloaded to you, because several years ago, we asked the what's the next thing that will be important for us as humans? And they said, relationship, the relationship to the self, first and foremost, and then all other relationships. And as we know, relationship, everything's relationship based from the time we, you know, pay for our food at the market, or we interact with somebody on the street, we're always in relationship to others. So Theo has addressed all of those relationships but the primary one and to your your download to your information is very cohesive to theirs in the sense of loving the self, and the how to do that to answer your question is Theo leads us. Into where and when did this part of self that's reacting first feel abandoned and instantly everybody knows, everybody knows that moment, the age. And it could be different ages, because they call it the string of pearls, because once we have a belief, we keep repeating it to affirm or right. You know, that's that self righteous part of ourselves that really under undermines us. But when we as the adult, it's not the adult that's reactive. It's these little aspects of ourselves that react to protect us. So when we know where it began, the genesis of this belief, often it's created or adopted outside of ourselves by somebody's comment or, you know, a reflection, because the greatest thing for all of us is survival. Once we get in this body, we want to stay in it, just like I did, you know, when I had my near death experience, to complete our souls mission. And so that's prominent for survival sake. So if anything threatens abandonment to a young child, that could mean death, right? If they're abandoned in any way. So that influence is very strong. And when you know where it came from, then the belief that was adopted, then the adult loves this whole part of self forward into the heart, supports it when it was unsupported in the past. And it's that self love that then brings this little aspect together with the soul, with the love, and then there's responding to life, rather than reacting to life, because challenge is inevitable, it's how we either react or respond to it, and that changes enormously when you have That self love, and that's the how to get there. So brief answer to your question is, yes, you do have to do a little bit of that, but it's not a deep dive into the emotions. Yes, you may have an emotional moment, but it's you've already done that. It's more a revelation of, oh, that's when this started. Oh, that's the belief that can be changed. You know, it, it changes your life forever. Really, it's like, you know, the the thermostat in your house, if you change it up or down a degree or or two degrees, it changes your whole environment. That's what the integrative process does. It changes the trajectory of your life out of the beliefs that limit you into the broader spectrum, as as Theo speaks about broadening the aperture of your life to see what great creator you are and how you can create the life you truly want to live.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:30

Hey there. Since you have been watching this video for quite some time now, I assume that you enjoy it, and perhaps you've been watching some of my other videos as well. If you do appreciate them, I would love for you to hit the subscribe button that really helps us reach out with these videos, because we put so much love and work and effort into this show to raise the collective consciousness. So if you want to support us in doing so, then subscribe to the channel. Thank you so much, and may you shine the light that you are powerful. And I feel like the process might be easier. Somehow I feel that we're receiving more help because they're coming in more energy now, and it seems like the the veil is thinner, and more people are waking up quicker, like I've been on this path for quite some, long, quite a long time, for 20 years or so, and people like say to me, I woke up two years ago, and they're so far ahead. Yeah. So yeah, things are really happening,

Sheila Gillette 29:34

and that's what's supposed to be happening, this evolutionary experience of being humans. We're not we're changing. As Theo says, these patterns that have been passed along for 1000s of years. That's how profound this time is. This has never been done before on the planet and human experience, we've. Ever owned, how powerful we are, ever in the recognition on a soul level. That's the evolution of consciousness that's happening now, and that's why we're seeing and hearing so many people to your point, awakening. That's what we've come here to do, and and create this new way of being human. We're we're in the process of releasing our history and in the sense of our generational patterns healing that creating a new way of being, so that the future our children are not acting out those old patterns. They won't even be available to them and and we're all already witnessing the brilliance of the young people that are being born. You know, the educational systems don't know how to support them and their sensitivities and their awareness. Well, they're coming in awake. Some of us are just waking up, but they're coming in already awake and and most of us as adults, what do we do? What do we do? We have to catch up. So I think that we're going to see this, this evolutionary change that's never happened before, and we get to be a part of it. That's pretty exciting.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:36

I find it exciting too. I'm glad my soul chose this time to live in. I think it's super exciting, even though it's challenging. And I loved on your website, it says, Make the extraordinary your new ordinary. And that that gives me hope, that that sparked something within me, because I used to think that I felt life was dull, and that was before my awakening, and then I had a depression, because I thought it was all about status, having this, having that, and it just felt so meaningless and ordinary. And we speak about, when we speak about extraordinary, it seems like, oh, there's so much more there. Can you speak a little bit to how we can live an extraordinary life.

Sheila Gillette 32:22

Well, it's part of what you said, the awakening. You know, it's really not about things. It's about accepting who you are, that self love we're talking about, and how powerful you are as a creator in your own life. You know, I hear from people, well, the law of attraction, manifestation isn't working for me. Yes, it is. It is working for you all the time. How do you think? How do you speak? What are your beliefs? So the energy of universal energies are there to align with whatever they were thinking about. So if you're placing an intention and a vision of what you want, and then your second thought is, Oh, it's okay. If it doesn't happen, I'm okay, you've just negated everything that you've placed in the universal field, or I don't deserve it, so there's no receptivity to it coming to you. There's a block in the energy. So Theo says manifestation works when you believe it and you receive it. And those are, those are key things. That sounds simple, but as we know, as we awaken, can I believe this? And where's your area of receptivity? If your belief is your your undeservable of the life you want to live. There's a block the door is shut to that energetic coming to you. So it's always bringing to you what you think most about. My husband, Marcus, always says, worrying is praying for what you don't want. So I think that's really the best way to describe it, because you know that, what if something horrible is going to happen? If that's what we're thinking all the time, well, then something horrible is going to happen, right? I have an example. One time I had been telling people I'd been working a lot, and I was using I was saying to people, oh, I need a break. I need a break. And we hear that all the time, take a break. So that you know I was saying that, and I kept getting. The message, get some night lights in your house. And I had been out for an evening, and I came home and the house was dark, and I tripped over my Labrador retriever, and I stiff armed it, and I broke my elbow and I and I realized for weeks I had been saying, I need a break. I got one, yeah, you know, I had to take a time out because I'm right handed, and it was my right arm. I couldn't write check. I couldn't write my name, you know, I couldn't type it was, it was like, Okay, you need a break. Time out. Time out. So it's as simple as that, if we have an awareness of the language we use. Another example is, you know, I want to be limitless. No, you don't, you don't want limits, and you don't want to be less. You want ease and grace in your life. So it's narrow. Linguistic changes make a difference. I mean, it's just awareness. Theo says, place intention and pay attention. Have awareness, how you speak, how you think. Just like my story about having a break, it just, it seems so simple, but it's really true. That's how manifestation works.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:39

Yeah, I've become really aware of my communication, how I speak, the words I'm using, and and I actually learned it like I wasn't aware of it before. A Norwegian teacher made me aware of how many times I said, But, for instance, like, but this and, but that, which really stops the energy. And it's like, but like, looking for the problem, right? So that's something I've been practicing. And all these expression we have, like, kinda, kinda, kinda, or, or, this makes me sick to my stomach, like, expressions like that. I mean, that is powerful. It is so a lot of the times we speak about the inner dialog, but it has to do with the outer dialog as well. And I was thinking when you were talking now that, oh, this is a bit similar to Esther Hicks. And then I remember that actually, you have been teaching Esther Hicks how to channel and that is, like a big thing in itself, like that. That's amazing. And then I get curious, when you look at other channelers, like your students, you have your own channeling with Theo, do you sometimes notice that, oh, we have different teachings, that is contradictory. What do I sort of do with that? Is that something that has come across,

Sheila Gillette 38:07

you know, that's an interesting question. I really appreciate it, because even with Esther, we've had people that have followed Abraham come as clients to us as well, and there have been a few people say, well, Theo, Theo and Abraham don't speak the same. And they do, because if you think about when Abraham is speaking to a person and Theo, this is true with Theo, they're speaking to that person, and whatever is happening with the person, and that information is for that that person, and whatever they're going through in their life in that moment. And this is true for Theo as well. But it's not to take just one statement, because you don't know what's going on between Abraham and that individual, and what they're seeing that you can't see they're speaking directly to them true with Theo but on a broader context of teaching, there's So many similarities, and I would look for the consistencies in the teachings, not just one statement to an individual, because it's so much broader. And what I've realized now, Theo has even broadened their teachings from the beginnings, because we're ready for it. They're teaching in a broader context, in application to all of us, and that's what I would listen to with any of the teachers that are coming forward now, looking, look for the consistency in the messages, not trying to tear them apart, but look for the consistency. Consensus and those consistencies are truth that you can apply no matter who the teacher is. If there's coherence in the teaching, if there's not, I'd question it.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:20

And to me, it seems like when you talked about we us being ready for a certain teaching, that a certain teaching is helpful at a stage or in a phase, or where humanity is at that point. And a few years ago, I felt like a lot of people were into twin souls and soul mates and very labeling things, and my soul contracts this and that, and reincarnation like that happened in my past life. I was this person in 1947 and then it evolved to power parallel lives. And then it sort of evolved to, oh, it's all happening at once and future lives. And okay, I'm multi dimensional. So it seems like spiritual teachings is evolving. And in my mind, I'm like, but how does that fit into my box? Like, I like to have it in my box, so I understand this in my mind. But when you broaden out, I just come to like the universe is mysterious, like I cannot have all the answers. So it's better just to let go and simplify things actually, like it's about love, right? And awareness, yes,

Sheila Gillette 41:40

yes, yes. And the thing is, is we, as in our humanness and our intellect always wants to be in control, so it tries to make logic out of the illogical. Because when we're talking about spirituality and our intuitive gifts, those aren't logical. Working with the universal energy is not a logical practice. So then the intellect starts to try to understand it and to define it rather than experiencing it. And so what I would say is it's the first thought, whatever inspiration you get, follow that I know we've all had experiences in our life before we had had our cell phones driving somewhere, and even if we leave them at home, and we're going somewhere and we're trying to know how to get there, and we don't have our navigation. We didn't used to have navigation. We had to look at maps. But now stopping at a crossroads, and our intuition says, Turn right. Our intellect says, Oh no, no, no, no, go left. I've had this personally, so I let my my intellect take control and I go left and drive a bit and find I should have turned right. I should have followed, followed that first inclination, that first sensory perception, that's what we're talking about. The intellect is always wanting to solve problems. It does its job really well, but it wants to analyze everything, and that's what you're talking about. There's paralysis and analysis, so to speak. And that's somebody said that, and I don't even remember who, but it's really the truth, because it stops us from being in that flow intuitively. So what I would encourage everybody do do, and I'm sure you're doing it because of what you're doing, is to follow that, and then you'll build evidence of it working, and so you'll do it more, and you'll use it every day like I do, and I'm sure you do in your life to make decisions and choices and all the things that we we do to have the life we want to live, to live a good life.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:34

And speaking about the mystical, would it be okay if you bring Theo here with us.

Sheila Gillette 44:40

Sure, I'd love to

Jannecke Øinæs 44:43

nice.

Sheila Gillette 44:43

It takes just a moment. Here we go. Okay.

It is the beginning, is it not?

Jannecke Øinæs 45:02

Yes, yes.

Sheila Gillette 45:03

One six, questioning it is of acceptance you're asking you may begin.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:09

Thank you for being here. I'm very passionate about purpose and soul. Purpose. Now, do we all have a purpose, and how specific is it? Is it something we have planned before we incarnated?

Sheila Gillette 45:24

It is something you planned, chose for purpose? Is life itself, you purposely came into your body. You chose to be here. Now, what you're talking about is how to express those precious life moments, energetically, passionately. So purpose is life, wanting to live through you, for you as you and how you express that passionately is how you express your life fully. And that's the question, isn't it? What is your passion? Where do you want to express those precious life moments, in the energy of your soul, in the direction of the outcome desired by the soul, so that is a consistency in your soul's path. And yes, past experiences have some influence you are carrying forward skills and aptitudes and energies that are a part of your soul. Energy, for an example, many artisans in the arts are everywhere, aren't they? Writers, composers, sculptors, painters, scientists. This is a form of expression in many lifetimes, as you've seen master painters from an early age, that is a carry forward with the expression and knowledge of what soul, passion expressed in human experience is. So we would say, yes, there is a carry forward in the multi dimensional field of the soul, of an expression that the soul chooses to have in any incarnation. You're passionate about teaching, are you not? Yes, and that is because you have been doing that in many times over, some to your peril, historically speaking. But that was then. This is now, but there are little remnants is in your life that made you a bit afraid to stand up in public and speak clearly about who you are. No longer. Do you feel that? But there was a resistance from those prior experiences, as there are many who have that now, because this is a time that many of you, most all of you, have chosen to be here now for this shift of consciousness that is happening that has been spoken about for 1000s of years. And you are the participants as well as the creators of this new world, you may ask,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:09

Oh, gosh, I have so many questions. I'm curious about our soul contracts and soul path. How destined is our destiny?

Sheila Gillette 49:23

Well, understanding that the soul chooses to incarnate, one could call that a destiny, but groups incarnate together to support each other's growth. So that's can explain why you meet people who you feel you've known forever. You're on the same vibrational frequency you see some time this a soul family connectivity. There's been a misconstruing of the soul mate in. Information as being romantic. The soul family are soul mates. You're on the same vibrational frequency. You're the lying to come in support of each other. And sometimes the most challenging ones for your lives are these soul mates. Because that's supporting your growth. So those romantic ideas are lovely, but there's a miss construing of that information, and yes, there's Heart to Heart connectivity of those who have chosen to be together in this lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:53

I'm curious about something that I very seldom ask about. I just see an increasing focus on it, especially on YouTube and in psychology, personality disorders like being a sociopath, a psychopath, a narcissist, there's a lot of lot of talk about narcissists, and I'm curious If this is something a soul chose from before as something to experience, or whether that is something they've been carrying on for many lives, and they have developed this in a way, and sort of, if you could speak to that subject, because a lot of sensitives and empaths have experience being with people with personality disorders, and, of course, have learned a lot from it. And there is a saying like, when you meet a person like that, run the other way, and I'd love a spiritual perspective on that.

Sheila Gillette 51:58

So there's labels. That's what you're talking about, because most are labeling those labelers. You're speaking about others from their experiences. But do not know the clinical definition of these topics. They're very defined. However, understand this, every human is a bit narcissistic. They're looking up themselves for survival. Yes. So everybody has some of those traits, not to the extreme. There are those who do have it to an extreme, and that is, can be a bit of a carry forward if it has not been healed, because it is a wound, all of these things that you've spoken about, sociopath, psychopath, narcissism, in its extreme, come from deep wounds in their human experiences, and some carry forward, but some are in the present. That would take a clinical description, not just a surface labeling, as many do, but it's important to know the characteristics of those pathologies or personality disorders in the interactions that one has, again, all things are relationship based. Are they not and they're repetitive patterns in some people that keep attracting that into their lives. It is true. So who needs to change the person that gets attracted because of that belief, or the person who has the belief. When you love yourselves enough, you do not act out and attract from the limiting belief, those types of personalities, but it's always to be asked, What am I learning? To your point, yes, what is the gift and blessing in this experience not to be fearful, because once you have the lesson, once you have the understanding, you don't attract that energy anymore. That that's the gift of the Discover we speak about in the integration process.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:51

What will future relationships, especially romantic, look like in the fifth dimension?

Sheila Gillette 55:02

It's a new paradigm of relationship that is preferential, not needy. You all have the ability to do everything you need for yourselves. You do not need someone else to take care of you, man or woman, you're perfectly capable of creating income. You're perfectly capable of cooking your own meals. You're perfectly capable of all those things that in the past were necessary in their early years and early times of human experience, yes, where there was the very separate male and female roles, and you came together out of need. If I take care of you, you take care of me. And now that does not work, does it? Because most often, there's an attraction between two of the woundedness the wounds, with a belief, if I take care of you, you'll take care of me. And that's impossible, because it's an inside out job that each individual is responsible for changing their limiting beliefs, for loving the self, for if you love the self enough, you can love others with a state of unconditional love and you don't need to be a fixer. So the new form of relationship is preferential. I choose you. We express our lives together with love. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 57:03

all right, could you say something about the times we're living in and what sort of we can look forward to and what we perhaps need to brace for, and a few words about how to navigate this in the best way possible

Sheila Gillette 57:21

you're already witnessing what you have to brace for, Yes but no. Become part of the energy of fear. Witness what is going on. How are you inside of you? How are you expressing in your life? Because, as each person, and we would prefer all beings, humans on this planet integrate for if that happens, you'll have peace in your world, and you'll treat each other with love, and that's where you're going, futuristically, but in this time of chaos, who are you? Are you holding with the chaos? Are you seeing a future balance a new foundation of love and interaction and collaboration? The pandemic showed that you are all one. There's no separation between your species. It doesn't matter where you live in the world, the language you speak, the color of your skin, you're one species on this planet. The virus didn't care where you lived or how you spoke, it looked for a host, and the host was a human being. There were no boundaries, there were no no divides between countries, and that's how we see your world in this oneness. And as there is an awareness that you are collaborative species, not competitive. You compete in sports and other things, but most often, you realize you're better together than you are apart, and the greater collaborations bring forth innovations and changes for the highest good of all, and that's where you're going, and the recognition fully of that and living in that way. So yes, there's light at the end of that tunnel. And don't be afraid of the tunnel, because you're moving through it quite rapidly. If you think in terms of a tunnel, that's birth, isn't it true? And you're birthing a new way of being on this planet as humans and it recognize your magnet. Magnificence,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:02

and is that in our lives, lifetime like Sheila and mine,

Sheila Gillette 1:00:07

yes, it's now. That's why it's so chaotic. Birthing is a bit messy, isn't it? When it's complete, it's magnificent.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:26

I have to ask, since you are 12 archangels, I assume you know, or maybe not, what is God

Sheila Gillette 1:00:33

a solid state of unconditional love. It's not a white haired being on a mountain somewhere, but it's in all of you as well, and that's what you're discovering in this process of loving the self, the God in You. But it's the universal energies as well, isn't it? Sister

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:05

and what is the deeper meaning of life?

Sheila Gillette 1:01:10

Love.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:16

All right. Well, thank you so much to you for being here today and sharing your wisdom,

Sheila Gillette 1:01:23

we are appreciative of the opportunity to serve. We are complete for this moment. God's love on to you. Good day. Good day.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:47

all right, you're back. Wow. Were you present? How was this for you? How are you feeling?

Sheila Gillette 1:01:57

I always feel wonderful when Theo speaks. I asked him to balance my energy and and so it, it feel, I feel really good. And you know, it's always such a blessing for me to be working with Theo. And I just feel such it's such a privilege. And so I, as you were asking, I move over. I'm aware it's happening. I don't retain all the information. If I listen to this recording, I it'll be like remembering a dream. Oh, yeah, I know that, because it's in there somewhere. It's about a total conscious recall.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:42

It's interesting to see sort of how your personality changed. I felt like very like, like this. If I would meet Gandalf, you know, on the street, I would be like, that's the feeling I got.

Sheila Gillette 1:02:58

I like that analogy.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:05

all right, so thank you so much. I would love to have you back, and I know you, you have some amazing collaborations with your husband. I just got to meet him before we started recording. And you have an amazing program coming up about relationships, the art of relationships. Would you like to share a little bit about that?

Sheila Gillette 1:03:26

Yes, it's a it's a program we've been working on since Theo told us about what's next, what to teach, and they said everything about relationships. So we've been creating this program. It's the art of relationship, discover the magic of unconditional love. And it's a book. It's an audio book. It's It's videos of retreats that we've done and Theo working with individuals on all all the chapters in the book are relationship based in the first four were based on self love, but all the other areas that were in relationship with it's quite profound information. We've all in our our community and our in our team, have learned so much about relationships. Through creating this, this program, it's quite robust, and it's being launched on this on the first of April to the general public. And like I said, it's a book, it's an audio book. It's Theo's teachings on Soul integration. It's a video. It's a self study program. It again touches on every type of relationship, primary relationships, of course, we're all interested in that, but children. Family, work relationships, and even in the end, they call it the end of life, in the process of dying, Theo calls it birth to birth. We birth into our bodies, and we birth in back into our multi dimensional soul self. So it's quite a robust program.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:24

And, and this is channeled by Theo, yeah,

Sheila Gillette 1:05:30

yes, nice. And so you hear, you know, you see Theo working with others. You You hear it in the audio book. It's Theo's voice speaking and Marcus and myself and and, oh yeah. And we have, it's 12 modules. There are 12 guided meditations, one for each module that we did with Barry Goldstein, who's is a composer of integrative music, and so it's, it has a lot of tools that we can all use, and, you know, just becoming our best selves, and then how to interact In those relationship experience, not from reactivity, but responsiveness

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:22

sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 1:06:24

Yeah, it's, it's quite robust. It's, it's been a labor of love, for sure. And yeah, I we're happy to share it with you,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:36

and I'll drop a link below, and I'd love to check it out myself, and it's been a wonderful journey having you here on the show. And I have some general questions, and I've sort of asked them already, but I'll ask you, or ask Theo, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Sheila Gillette 1:06:57

Well, I have to to say it's, it's love, because that's what I've been in the study of all these years I've been working with them. That's been the main theme that has gone through. And also, you know, the fuller recognition of of that self love, but also how we can be loving of each other.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:21

And what is self-love to you Sheila,

Sheila Gillette 1:07:25

it's that, that feeling of that solid state of unconditional love of self. And how does that translate? It's peace. You know people, people say, I want to be happy. Well, happiness is relative. It's, it's a sense of joy. It's a sense of confidence that no matter what happens and what challenge comes, I got this, I can handle it. It's that, that, yes, I can feeling, you know, there's the lack of wobbles when challenged, it's just like, okay, and the recognition, as I've been doing this work and a student of it for 50 years, it's just a sense of peace that, you know, today's great, tomorrow's going to be great too, because one of the things that we know is the enemy of great is good when we settle so remaining curious and keep growing, keep growing, and that your Curiosity, that's part of what we're here to do is just remain curious and keep growing and expanding, as Theo would say, broadening the aperture of our perceptions.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:53

Good, yeah, I think curiosity is self love for me, it's just my natural thing. Well, thank you so much, Sheila, it has been a great joy having you on the show. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom today.

Sheila Gillette 1:09:10

Oh, thank you. I've I've enjoyed our conversation. I look forward to another time. Thanks for the invitation.