Navigating Global Shifts! With Robyn Steyn

Jannecke Øinæs 0:00

It seems like the relationship between the continents and the countries and Europe and America and Russia is changing.

Robyn Steyn 0:10

They are striving to create more directive within their own units, thus causing conflict, nation to nation. The leaders that have forced humanity to move in certain directions have decided the choosing of the humanity over the humanity themselves. Therefore we would say that groupings and communities of people could invoke a sense of power as a collective which is of high value, and those leaders who do persist in this nature can find new ways to harmonize within the collective field, as opposed to governance.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02

Do you feel like pulling a card for the audience today?

Robyn Steyn 1:06

Oh, my goodness. Okay, I'm good. I've got goosebumps, because this is awesome as a as a message for humanity. Okay?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:20

Robyn Stayn, a warm welcome back to the show.

Robyn Steyn 1:24

Thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:27

I'm excited to have you back. You are an author. You are a tarot card expert. You are a channeler of seventh density collective called Anna Kasandra, and you're also one of our master class teachers, in my very own wisdom, from North membership, which I'm super excited about. And you're teaching our members how to read tarot cards, which is exciting to know about. I gotta say, it was a beautiful class, and perhaps we'll get to learn more about Tarot today as well. Now I identify with you a bit. I've interviewed you before, and you were also an actress who went in a new direction into spirituality, and all of a sudden opened up to channeling. Not that I'm channeling, but we both started a spiritual path. So I'm curious, for everybody new to you, could you share what happened in 2019 where you had a shift in your life?

Robyn Steyn 2:29

Yes, yes, yes. Well, like you creative, so it was the acting, filmmaking, artist, all of that. And it really came to a point, a juncture, in my life, which I think a lot of people didn't have. I was 38 years old, and I realized that everything I was trying to do is like a brick wall, brick wall, brick wall. And then I tried to figure out, Okay, what's holding me back? Until I realized that I was holding me back. You know, usually the thing to do with limiting belief systems, and I'm not good enough, imposter syndrome, all of that and and so I thought I'm going to do some self development work. Did some self development work through, you know, Tony Robbins, that sort of style, that kind of motivation, and basically recognized the responsibility lay on me, and as soon as I shifted my mind in that focus, things started happening. But I did start doing Tarot two years before. So these two areas work together simultaneously. So the point where I'd realized I needed to take responsibility for my thoughts, my patterns, my history, everything, and with the tarot cards, I started developing these weird physical sensations, and thought I was going a bit crazy, and then started investigating further. It's like going down the rabbit hole. So 2019 was really a very profound year where everything shifted, and I no longer wanted to be going down. I'm still creative, but I no longer wanted to be playing into that industry, because it was a higher, higher path, higher vision, higher awareness. And it was scary at times and ecstatic at times, and everything that kind of goes through a spiritual awakening. So everything, it was a game changer.

Jannecke Øinæs 4:26

Yeah, did you have a dark night of the soul at some point?

Robyn Steyn 4:31

Yes, yes, I did. Um, for from what I understand of as a dark night of the soul, I had sort of heard a bit about it, but I didn't really know what it was about, and understand you've also been through one. It happened near the end of 2019, and lasted for about three or four months. But there was a particular day where it just kind of everything just reduced to nothingness. And I was in my room, it was daytime and Bay. Basically everything went pitch black around me. I kind of knew I was still kind of in the room, but I was thrown into this massive, deep void of blackness, like being in space but not seeing any stars, and in this huge peripheral area, just expanded into complete nothingness, and I was both everything and nothing all at once. So it felt like I was gigantic and minuscule at the same time. And it was as if like, then I started to see like, almost like these labels, almost like pictures, little, small movies emanate from me and then just disappear into the void. And one would be the label of who I am as a daughter, the actress, vibe, the the the artist, the being born in South Africa, all these labels just seem to kind of pull out of me and just disappear into this nothingness until I felt like, well, who, who the hell am I? You know, I'm I am nothing, I'm everything and I'm nothing all at once. And I remember kind of, I don't even know if it lasts three hours or two minutes, but I remember after that, just being I need to lie down now and then a few, a few weeks after that was quite tricky, because I'd go and make a cup of tea and I'd be like, what's the point? What's the point in anything? Because even though I had this huge in that void, I felt this huge blank canvas of creativity, I could create anything I wanted, but it's like, well, why? I'm everything and nothing all at once. And so it has a bit of a psychological kind of it plays tricks on you, of like, well, then what am I doing here? You know? And if you're not careful, that can really carry on. But, and every so often, I still have those moments of like, well, but why? You know. So it's something that you kind of, I think you still have little flashbacks or residues of it as you move forward. But it was so profound that it, I really, it took quite a lot of effort just to make myself eat or, you know, but it didn't last that period, that initial straight after that experience, was about a couple of weeks, which it just felt really flat, you know, because all of a sudden I couldn't identify you identify with who you are as a person, what your age is, what your gender is, what your your morals and your ethics are, you know. And so when that, then it's really hard to, yeah, to figure out who who you are and why you are here. So it's basically, I would make out, consider dark night of the soul to be a loss of identity. And it's pretty scary, you know, but then you acclimatize. But that's, that's my experience of it. And everyone has a different experience. So, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 8:06

That's interesting. Um, did you feel like it was meditation, like you were laying down and to meditate or something, or were you standing in the room and all of a sudden, this just came over you?

Robyn Steyn 8:19

It came over me, yeah, I wasn't. It wasn't like, Oh, I'm gonna meditate now and I'm gonna, you know, it wasn't anything like that. I was standing the room, I think I was, like, playing with my pop plant on on the windowsill, and this just came over me. And it just like, Whoa. Okay, yeah, yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:43

It's interesting that certain people have these experiences. I'm not sure if I fully have had that. I've had other mystical experiences and also sort of a dark night, in the sense that I've had a depression. But I think dark night of the soul is something like that that you you lose the connection you sort of feel disconnected to the Divine, but I guess we have many perspectives on what it actually is, but, but how do you feel now, like when you lose this identity? How is it like to be Robin today?

Robyn Steyn 9:18

So I think, I think it is human nature to try and still latch on to something. You need something, because when it all gets removed from you, you're like, Well, why? What's the point and anything? So I think gradually you you do grab onto another identity, but that identity is a bit more fluid, a bit bigger. It's not so specific and not so judgmental. So Robin today is more more, I suppose, with wanting to be as open as I can, and not to apply labels and identity to myself, but to keep. Uh, discovering it. So then that would be a label, that would be an identity. So I'm not sure if that really answers your question, but, um, yeah, you do struggle to figure out who you are, you know, but then then later down the line, I think when you go through those meditations and those deep connections, and the connection I have with Anaka Sanja, because all that happened after the dark night of the soul, that you have this kind of unnamed connection that cannot be broken ever. And so you're like, Okay, well, well, then that's that. I've got this cord. I've got this beam of light that's connected. And if that's what it is, okay, that's what it is. And I still have, you know, my personality, you know, but my, you know, some friends and family have said that some parts of my personality has changed a bit. You know, I used to be very cross, you know, not always cross, you know, always was a bit goofy, but, you know, if impatient and cross, and I still sort of struggle a bit with impatience, but it's so there's still elements that come through, but it's not as hard, if that makes sense, not as stringent.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:09

It seems like to me that this dark night was preparing you for something, and why certain people have that experience, I'm not sure, but there seemed to be a bigger plan there. So how did Anna kashanja Enter your life? And who are they?

Robyn Steyn 11:26

Okay, so, yes, I'm not sure if it had prepared me for that, but I think everything is in divine timing. For sure, I've not had a kundalini experience that a lot of people have. You know, maybe I've had a gradual one over years, I don't know, but Anaka Sanja came into my life and probably, well, they've always been a part of my life that I wasn't aware. They tell me that I've done this plenty of lifetimes before, and I've done channeling plenty of lifetimes before. That's probably why it came more naturally. And a friend of mine in early of 2019 had said to me, I was talking to a Reiki friend of mine who's very spiritual, knew more stuff than I did while I was trying to figure it out. And I said, you know, I'm I'm doing Tarana, and all of a sudden I feel like this constriction over here, or this like tapping sensation on my throat. And she says, Oh, but you're a channeler. And I said, huh. And I knew what that was then, but I was so wowed by other people, I didn't think that I could do it. And so dark now the soul was kind of end of 2019 I she gave me a few tips of how to try channeling, which didn't really work, as there were too many expectations in my head, you know. And then come July 2020, I I watch a very short video that on YouTube that gave you a bit more of a tip of how to get into a very open state, very heightened awareness, alertness, but zero expectation. I did a meditation for 20 minutes, press on my record button on my phone, and then just open my mouth and just said whatever words came out. So that's how I was introduced to them. And a few I was so wild by the experience, and a little bit scared as well at first. So I practiced every day. And a week or two later, they used the word Anna Kasan ja and I thought it sounded like the German word aletsu zamen altogether, but they said no, directly translates as we within you. But in the beginning with the channeling, it was interspersed with light, what I know now knows light Language and English, so it was kind of mixed. And then eventually it became more English, because I was like, no, no, but I still have that first recording, which is very cool.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:03

So who are they? Yeah,

Robyn Steyn 14:05

that was the next question.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:07

No, that's okay. It's just, you know, my guests often say, Oh, you ask so many questions at the same time. However, if I don't, I don't get the questions in, because my guests are great communicators, so that's why I'm doing it. So, yeah, who are they and what is their message?

Robyn Steyn 14:26

Okay, so they are a group. They describe themselves as a group of 12, right? Entities, um, we've asked them before, are you ETS or are you angels? And they thought that was hilarious. And said, Well, what's the difference? You know, but they they say, we asked them specifically, what dimension you're on, and they said, seven. And they explained that they have a kind of form, but it's a plan. Plasma form. It's like a light body with a very fine plasmic vibe around them. And I have had a couple of images in channeling where they do appear as to be quite tall, sorry, larger heads, very long fingers, but just kind of white and slightly transparent. Their message is Love it or more, their message is trying to get me and anyone who I come into contact with to basically reduce limitations. How much more? How much further can you go? If love is the greatest thing that we know, can there be more and love as we know is perpetual. It's ever growing. But they are even trying to ask us to stretch even further about that. And another message they often come is to do with acceptance of what is you know, but it's about expansion. It's about kind of trying to be bigger, to stretch outwards, to connect higher in every avenue of life.

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Robyn Steyn 17:45

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Because, I mean, sometimes you wonder, Oh, is this my higher self? Is this a part of me? One of the big things, the big clues that I have, is that they've used words that I need a dictionary to look up, that I didn't know, or they used to say the word. They used to say oscillate rather than oscillate. So you pronounce oscillate, but there's a C there osculate. So one of the biggest things was I didn't know some of the words that they would use. So that's how I knew. And the other one was I would do little tests on myself. Was I would then kind of give myself the intention that I would speak as fast as possible, just to trip myself up if it was me. And the words were still coming, they just came faster, right, much faster than I could perceive it or try and say it. And then the other one is down to the information that comes through. I mean, there's no way that I'm that kind and that patient and, you know, so and, you know, there's other things as well, because obviously, it's been a few years now, and you know, I'm slow to learn. So it's, you know, sometimes I need, I do need things drilled in. And so often I'll have a channeling session where perhaps I'll get my mum to ask them a question, a personal question for me. And if I was involved, you know, my ego would say, Well, no, no, Robin's correct with this and this and this. But often they say, Well, no, she hasn't quite looked at the bigger picture. Do you see? So there must be a correlation. And ultimately, with all this sort of stuff, it does come down to trust as well. So I trust the information. I trust that I'm learning new words and and, and yeah, and then see, and it's, and it's been such an amazing experience. It's, I could not deny it.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:53

I sometimes ask my guests this, so can you get answers to everything and anything? I. For instance, when there was a election in the last year, like, can you get concrete answers to global matters, for instance?

Robyn Steyn 20:11

So the answer for that is no. So I get they don't. I've had a client ask before about the elections last year, and and they were thought that was really funny, and thought, Oh, we've not been asked a political question. And they they explained more the energy surrounding both areas and the tenancy and trajectory, but they said it would be short lived. Um, and so maybe that's still to come. But

Jannecke Øinæs 20:43

Sorry, what? What is short lived?

Robyn Steyn 20:46

They said that what came into power would be short lived, yeah, but that was, that was last year. So I don't know how, how long the the stretch of time is, but so they sometimes they've said, Okay, we cannot tell you this thing, because it's going to limit your development moving forward. But then they'll give them the surrounding energies and the surrounding ideas to make sense of where the trajectory will come. It's been a couple of times when, you know, we've asked a straight question, they've given a straight answer, but it's, I suppose they have a bit of a higher idea about if, if we knew certain things before would naturally came, then that could limit our development. Hmm, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 21:38

I would love to go into some channeling. But before that, I'm curious what you, Robin, think about other channelers, if you're following all the channelers, and what do you think when these teachings or what the beings are saying are contradictory?

Robyn Steyn 21:56

Oh, that's interesting question. So um, I do. I watched quite a lot of channelers before in the beginning of 2019 and I was so wild by it, and so I watched quite a lot. And it's weird, I don't generally speaking, the kind of channelers that I would maybe listen to would be the ones that we are more familiar with. So Lee Carroll for cry, on Darwin for Bucha. There's Wendy Kennedy. There's a lot of I mean, Rob got here. Amazing information comes through there. And I tend to think that even though sometimes it may sound contradictory, the message is generally the same. Message, just said in a different way, with a different angle. And the way I can make sense of that, and why I would then do this, is because there are going to be ways that and a concern, like a particular angle on something that could resonate with people, that they would understand it compared to somebody else. Like, for example, cry on is all love, love, love, love, love. And some people can't take that you know, and Bashar is all the formula, the formula, the formula you know. And like, this is what you have to do. And so I think people respond to different messages in different ways. Ultimately, the I think it is the same message. And the message is you're much more powerful than you realize. You are connected to divinity. You do manifest your own reality. And love is a connection that binds us all of this oneness, this interconnectedness. And so I feel like the message is the same. It's just delivered in a different way, and hopefully then would reach those pockets of people that are in the space to receive it.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:48

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I That's my impression, too, that it is sort of the same. But there are exceptions to the rule where all of a sudden I hear something completely new, like, we're not all one. But like I say, I don't, you know, I don't need to agree with every Channeler on my show.

Robyn Steyn 24:10

That's precisely. I think that's also a good lesson for everyone, because it's just because, you know, we're human beings, and we're all on this earth plane, and we're all trying to figure this stuff out. Um, there's we're not the whole point. I think of not the whole point, but part of the point of this shift in consciousness is unity consciousness and actually embracing diversity. So there's going to be some things that don't sit right, and that's okay, but the underlining message, the underlining core value that actually we are really powerful and and our ability to love and our ability to destroy, but our ability to love is extremely great, and we can, we can embrace more of that, and we can explore more of that as well.

Jannecke Øinæs 24:58

Yeah, that, that is the message. I understand from Anna Kasia. All right, I feel like it's a female name, but to me, I picture this goddess, anywho I would love to meet them. Would that be possible?

Robyn Steyn 25:16

Yes, yes, yes. Or life within soul combined within as you envelop this escalation within our light. You are all lighting, always within also as us within you, we commence our values within your directive to orminate within your language in order to convey information that can be assessed thereafter. As we encourage our light within your values, we emanate our connection to all light and your collecting as well within so as you achieve this nomination within your divine cells, within your all levels of your light, you can emit power within our light, also, we are familiar with the terms that you use. We are connecting with that which you are. We are all light within So, yes, Danika, within your light. We are available now within your levels.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:27

I would love for you to address what's going on right now. We are recording in March 2025, and what I see in the news is something I've never seen before. It seems like the relationship between the continents and the countries, and Europe and America and Russia is changing from what we've seen for many, many years. Could you say anything about how these relationships between the countries are changing? If there's a deeper reason why this is happening, a deeper spiritual reason. And if this is actually symptoms and part of the great shift in consciousness, that perhaps there is a deeper reason why this is happening for the greater good, perhaps, or if something needs to come up and be shaken up before things come down.

Robyn Steyn 27:22

Live within that. So connect now within your mental love. And as you achieve this, you can emanate within our light. Also, the reason why we express this within you is to filter through our energetics, within your being of light, yes, connected to this question that you have Yes, so you are asking within us what is going on? You are escalating this aspiration of choosing to find new ways of harmony across societies, when indeed, at present, what you see is that of a combat, that of a conflict nature, yes. So within these realms, there are individuals who are connecting to their own sensory powers to help aid them in the prosperous nature of their own communities they are understanding at a high level that there are many ramifications connected to the element in the issue of what you would understand of as power control. Yes, and therefore they are scrambling, so to speak, to assert powers where there have been those who have dictated to them into some degree one could understand it as individuals also identifying within themselves power controls that have been implicating certain directives and derivatives based upon ideas that they not are in alignment with as this comes to the forefront of their minds and collective fields of those who harness power, yes, they are striving to create more directive within their own units, thus causing conflict, nation to nation. Yes, so what you are seeing, to some degree, is the idea and the identity that time is of the essence to do with people's waking up to certain realities, to certain ideas of their own consciousness, and attempting to curtail that extremity to the degree that they can still access power. Yeah. In order to achieve this, they are focusing more heavily on their own units and communities, which may be disrespective or disrespectful to neighboring branches. Yes, therefore you are seeing a divide of a higher nature play out in your society. Yes, what this is bringing to light is a high level of contrast causing division between communities within the community and those of the neighboring branches also So to some degree, what is being achieved, yes, is division, yes. So whereby the idea of diversity is very strong in the field of higher consciousness in the embracing of the unity of that yes, division is that which is coming to the forefront of leaderships in order to create the control within their own spectrum. First, the more as they realize certain controls are wavering and dissipating to some degree, time is of the essence, as we did say, meaning that they are attempting to create harder measures in order to curtail the expression of the masses as quickly as possible, yes, causing many ideas of fear, of an identity, of where a person may decide how they move forward. To some degree, the attempt is to create confusion. Yes, and whereby those who are in confusion of who they are, where they are moving towards, it becomes easier to assess power thereof and navigate them in a directive of their own. Does this understand within your

Jannecke Øinæs 32:20

Yeah, yeah. The i that resonates, it feels like that's what we're seeing, yeah.

Robyn Steyn 32:25

So to some degree, what you are seeing is a scrambling yes to create more new ideas of how to instill a limited identity in order to control and feel less empowered to start to speak Yes, and this is due to the timing of those who are undergoing shifts in consciousness, shifts in awareness. So we would say within your life, yes, that part of this is to do with certain timings and deadlines and agendas that have been in place for some time, although have now reaching a pinnacle. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 33:19

I'm curious, is humanity really dependent on a few leaders in the world and sort of victims? I'm not sure if that's the right word. But who is really in power? Is humanity in power, or is are these leaders in power

Robyn Steyn 33:41

indeed, dear child, you are always in power yourself, yes, yes. So understand that the power within the individual yes can be manifested to great extremes or not, depending on your choice, yes. Now understand the idea of victimhood yes is to turn within and decide within oneself that everything is not of your choosing. Yes, however, this is but a perspective. Now you are questioning this question of power. Who has the power? We say, Indeed, all do, however, what you identify as power can be defined in many ways. In some cases, it can be of a scatter of a status. In others, it can be of a monetary aspect. For others, it can be the power of love and compassion. Yes, all do harness the power now understand that humanity work best as a group. Yes, groupings that are creating themselves within themselves to work towards unified aspirations. Yes. However, to some degree, a leader has the ability to guide the group. Understand that in the past, for many millennia, the leaders that have forced humanity to move in certain directions have decided the choosing of the humanity over the humanity themselves. Therefore we would say that groupings and communities of people could invoke a sense of power as a collective which is of high value, and those leaders who do persist in this nature can find new ways to harmonize within the collective field, as opposed to governance. Yes. Now to understand of governance is to have the overseeing arc of all. And yet, within this consciousness shift that humanity are going through, they are starting to learn within themselves, yes, that power lies within, and therefore choosing lies within, within this spectrum of understanding so the idea arises that they are also responsible for themselves and collectively take responsibility on global matters. This shift in consciousness will continue to aspire to high degrees, and those that are your leaders in the future will be moving more towards the leadership of the mass and for filling what the collective desire is, as opposed to the opposite. Thus understand within you.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:57

Yeah, that was good news. And I have to ask, does it get worse before it gets better?

Robyn Steyn 37:04

Light within light? Yes, when one sees things that they do not desire to see, it is but an example, but an opportunity to discern within their own inner light for the collective, as you speak of now, yes would be the answer, because many are still driven by the importance of fear, that which is the currency of those leaders. Yes, therefore Yes, there will be much difficulty with regards to where people understand their light lies, where the limitations lie, what they aspire to do collectively, yes, because understand when things do get a little difficult, sometimes the individual may choose to stand out alone. Yes, to not allow themselves to connect with others, and yet connecting with others is of great importance and high value. Yes, so it will seem on the overall spectrum that things will get harder. Yes, more difficult, as you say, Yes, however, it is up to the individual to decide within themselves. Is this impacting my greater choosing or not? How can I choose moment to my ideas moving forward. Yes, so it is, but the outer conflict explained within the global aspirations are also of high value. Yes, however, sometimes within your society, within the human psyche, one needs to see what they do not want before they can understand what they do want. Yes. So therefore the choice, the choosing, in contrast, yes, may be of high value, also when things do not go according to plan, yes, when things seem very hard and difficult, yes, when people start suffering more and more, it can be brought round to a higher positive value of what can we do to overcome creating innovate, a higher level of understanding now, knowing and seeing what it is we do not want. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 39:48

all right, thank you. I want to ask a last question that I'm curious about you or Robin told me that you are seventh density collective. Beings. Could you speak a little bit about densities and dimensions? Many people say we are in 3d going to 5d how many dimensions are there? And is when we die? Are we moving over to the fifth or the sixth or the seventh dimension, or fourth

Robyn Steyn 40:21

light within light, yes. So you are speaking of that which you are not familiar with, yes. So we understand that many in your society are slowly grappling with the ideas of dimensionality, yes, and to understand if dimensionality is simply but to understand an aspect yes of awareness, yes. And more aspects of awareness do arise in thus creates higher dimensions, yes, higher values, a high point of view, so to speak, yes. So when you speak of the third density, yes, of course, within the playing field, the physicality of your physical reality? Yes, this would be understandable. The fourth dimension is more to do with the timing. Yes, time and space. However, time is also relative, because it does not exactly exist. It is simply moment to moment and the tomorrow never exists. Yes, it never arises. Yesterday does not replay itself. Yes, it is only current or current is current and currency. Now within working within the fifth dimension, moves unity of consciousness and understanding more into love and compassion. Yes. Now when you speak of density and dimensionality, density is more specifically spoken of to do with materialistic and molecular atoms being more fixed in space and time. The higher up you go, the less dense it becomes. Therefore, therefore we speak of dimensionality. Yes, dimensionality is more of a smaller, fragmented, fractured aspect of this idea, yes. So when you ask how many there are? Yes, understand that within our light, yes, we perceive up to 1314, however, yes. Understand that within all light, with all creativity, with all creation and all that is and can be yes, the more probable answer would be to say that it is infinite Yes. So therefore what we can perceive is to that degree at present knowing of its existence. However, we could not curtail, we could not limit this identity either. Yes. Now within our dimensionality, it does involve a series of movement, so to speak, yes, an idea of flow that can ripple out and resonate and blend with one another. Therefore, when we choose to speak to Laban, yes, within this manner, yes, we are collectively binding our light. Yes, because the shift and the porous nature of our beingness enables us to do so, yes, as we do this, we involve our energetic fields within regards to her energy, yes, to see it as a beam of colorful light emanating outwards. So blend us, our light within hers and those of our nature, yes, of which there are many species, so to speak, yes, yes. Can achieve this. Those of higher levels are more involved and more spread out onto universe, multiverse aspects where they can shift their awareness and manifest their presence in other realities quicker, yes, so the higher one goals is to achieve higher levels of awareness. Is the simplest way to understand it. Now, when you speak of passing ogre, yes, coming to the transition of what you understand of as death. Yes, yes. Understand that you are simply returning to the nature and the core of that which you are, which is energy. Now we understand that men in your society do not like to hear this, yes, because when they have their physical bodies Yes, and their personalities and their intellectual stamina, yes, they have identified for themselves, their belief systems and who they are, all concentrated in a dense proportion of the physical body. Yes, however, the energetics is the core of it all is made up of energy. That energy is, to some degree, understand it of as consciousness. Consciousness is attributed to this connection of love, yes, therefore, when one passes over, so to speak, they are returning to their core units, their core cells. And their core cells is much larger than the physical proportions of the human body. Yes. Therefore, when one passes over, so to speak, to the other realm, they are returning to home, yes, returning to themselves. And this aspect is multi dimensional, yes, and cannot be limited to a particular dimension as it to some degree, is all encompassing and all in evolving, yes, understanding that in certain soul recognitions and certain soul journeys, that one does have ideas of which to experiment and exercise and play with in multiple realities of their choosing, so does a soul go through a series of claimants, a series of lifetimes to express us and experience it all? And when one passes and connects to their personal, individual self, which is connected to the over soul, so to speak, and connected to all that is and is, in fact, all that is yes, then one is simply in higher awareness of the multiplicity of one's beingness. Does this understand within you?

Jannecke Øinæs 46:53

Yes, yes. Thank you for such a thorough answer. Yes, yes. All right, so my last question, if you could shortly share what is the most important question we can ask ourselves right now.

Robyn Steyn 47:10

Light within life, you are asking us what you should ask yourself, yes. So yes, we should answer within our life best as we see fit, ask yourself, why not? Yes, yes. So you say you wish it for us to speak very shortly, we say, ask yourselves, why not? The reason why we express this within your life, yes is because many peoples in your society are still undergoing certain fears of inhibitions. Yes, limitations, yes, understanding or believing that they do not have a choice. And we say unto you, you have a big choice. You always have choices. Yes, a matter of a perspective is simply a choice also. Therefore, usually what we see within your society is people preventing themselves from doing what it is they desire, yes, within the higher degrees of that which they are expressing to become within themselves. And many times they would ask themselves, why must I do this? Yes? Will we say unto you question the choice of will, why not? Yes, yes. It enables one to see that there is experimentation available at hand and the ideas of being, why? Why? Why must we do this? Why must we do that? Yes is usually due to what they have been told or conditioned to believe and think and say yes. So now we express unto you, perhaps as a way to shift the control mechanisms, because that is what you are speaking of previously to this is to question within yourself. Well, why not yes, and then see what happens. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:07

all right. Thank you so much for being here today and for sharing your wisdom.

Robyn Steyn 49:12

Yes, so like within like Jannecke, within your elevation of you asking all of this manners, yes, your deliberation is to exceed ideas of who we are, who we know, as peoples, as ourselves, as entities of our light, as in within you, with the connection, the communion that we do embrace within all is exemplar. Flee within light, to connect to or to understand the deeper connections to themselves. And for this, we bless you with our light in this path and journey that you have chosen, those who do emanate out of this idea of who it is they are in expressing higher. Ideas of the connection to the inner divine light, yes, fulfill these aspects also due to the work that workings that you are emitting within yourself, within this language, within this light, this communion, this communication within us, within you and within awe is of high value, highly respected and highly adorned for this. Within our light, we say unto you, we are grateful for this exchange and ability to connect within your light. So within this field of existence, we emanate our power overriding within your language, within your volume, within your light, you are considerably higher than you think you are.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:00

Okay, all right, you're back. Yeah, wow, that was, that was many words, and that was like really Thorough explanations of things and good, yeah. Do you Were you conscious of what was being said, or are you in the trance?

Robyn Steyn 51:24

It's like, um, oh, my ears ringing, um, it's like, I'm sitting here and listening in, but I'm a little bit like a kid distracted by like a flower. So it's, it's, it's a bit like I can, I can sort of hear it, and then I get, I get mental images and and then that'll take my attention. So it's like, my, my, it's like my attention is completely distracted to something else or somewhere else. And then I can hear some of the words. And then occasionally I'll say, Oh no, don't say that word. Don't say that word, and they'll go, and they'll hear that, you know, because my physical mind of hearing some of it, may try and say, Oh, they might. They may not get the right way, but it's so there's like, like, a little mini conversation that we have, but they're still speaking, and I could sort of hear and then I'll like, Oh, see an image, you know. So it's like, I'm somewhere else, but, yeah, it's like my awareness is sort of here, but I'm somewhere else.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:31

Yeah fascinating, yeah, I gotta say, I gotta listen to that again, because it was quite lengthy and it felt profound and made so much sense, and still, there was just so much there. And also the accent for me, being Norwegian, I think I just have to, you know, listen carefully against to sort of get the whole thing. It could be even great to have, like, a transcript of it, actually,

Robyn Steyn 52:57

yeah. So when I do with my clients online, we actually, because we record the sessions, it means they can go back to it and listen to it again, because this tends to be multi layered, right? You wouldn't hear it again, you get something else. When you heard again, you get something else. But the system also allows it to be transcribed as well, and occasionally the transcription will get the wrong word, but generally it's pretty good. So yeah, and then when reading it, you can kind of go okay, because the accent can be the accent so much better than it was before, and they speak slower now, but it's still tuning your ear in. Yeah, .

Jannecke Øinæs 53:38

interesting. How much you change. It's just fascinating. At the end of this episode, I'd love to hear a little bit about tarot, since you are passionate about that, and I was thinking, instead of going down what Tarot is and all that, if, if people want to learn more about it, there's tons of information online. And also, of course, you guys can watch my your master class in my members. But shortly, Tara, why did you get interested in it? And also, is the future set in stone? I assume not,

Robyn Steyn 54:15

no. So the future is not set in stone. And so anyone who's going into Tarot needs to know that you're not telling the future, right? You are relaying the energies. If we think about in our lives, we've all, we're all in a bit of a trajectory. We're all in a bit of a momentum in what, in many, in many avenues. But there's a general kind of momentum that we are moving towards, unless we completely change everything about us to see what else is available to us. So there's a trajectory, a momentum, and what Tarot does is it looks at what the momentum is and gives you the full picture. So tarot cards have both, you know, positive and negative aspects to it. And so even. When you feel like you're on a positive, it can give you the other version. Kind of go, yes, but be careful of this. And if you think things are going badly, it can give you a high perspective and kind of go or no, have you looked at this aspect? Okay, so nothing is ever set in stone, which is beautiful, but what is kind of predestined are best way I can describe this is our lessons. Okay, there's certain lessons that we kind of have to figure out right, and sometimes, if we don't learn it the first time, it's going to be harder next time and harder next time, until we get it right. And that's just part of our kind of soul growth in this life. Um, whichever one that means for you. I'm passionate about Tarot because the cards never lie. And what I mean by that is that when you start to learn it, and you create that personal association to each card, it speaks to you individually, so it's it gives you, I ideas that you kind of know are there, but also the other, opposite perspective. So the reason I love it so much is because they never lie, and I'm always learning and always gaining a higher perspective of it. Now I know that part of that is actually connected to my guides or my higher self, and it's the cards that is literally used as a symbol. And we, you know, us humans. We're all we're surrounded by symbology all the time, symbolism, things that have meaning in them. We all grow up with that, that it's kind of ingrained to us, from a senior feather on the on the on the road to a rainbow to a shift in someone's kind of expression when they speak to us. We have multiple symbols. And so cards, tarot cards, simply, are a reflection of that. And when you learn for yourself, and when you kind of get really intimate with with each of the cards and really delve into it, these little symbols kind of jump out at you. So it's use. It's basically one of many tools that many people can use to figure out what, what the bigger picture is, right? People use a pendulum as well, or kinesiology or a crystal ball, you know, or, um, they'll meditate on it. There are so many tools out there for me. I like, I like pictures, so that the cards work really, really well. And how I got into it was literally fluke. I mean, it was before my spiritual awakening, and a friend and myself used to go to a psychic medium once a year as little naughty treat, you know, to get our fortunes read, you know, before I knew any of this sort of stuff. And we did that every year. And then the one year I went, and the woman told me that I would be doing this. And so, of course, I prophesied it myself, self prophecy, and I bought a deck and learnt and learn every single day. You have to study it every day you know, and play out the cards and then refer back to it later to see you know. So you do develop a very strong connection to each card. And yet, still, what happens is, like any tool out there, even though this is a physical thing in front of me, what happens is it opens up your psychic awareness, and then what's happened for me, and then you might hear something, or you might have a vision, or whatever. So, so I love it, but it is a tool, and there are so many tools out there, I love it because it means you can be quite specific. I mean, there's certain things that are like, you know, tend to be pretty strong in energy, and therefore that's the thing that you would answer, things that are a bit more kind of wavy and more wishy washy. That's when you have a little bit more of wiggle room to work around. This is what, ,

Jannecke Øinæs 58:59

yeah I think it's super exciting, because I haven't studied it that much. And when you had the masterclass in the membership, it opened a new world to me, because I've never actually known so much about Harrod. So for those who are interested in perhaps checking out that masterclass in Wisdom From North Membership, could you share what you are teaching?

Robyn Steyn 59:21

Yes, yes. So it's basically, I go through a general, very, very brief kind of history of of the cards, where it comes from, and why it went from kind of being, actually a playful sport to something that was deemed as, all this is naughty. This is taboo, you know. And a lot of people still have that ingrained in them that it's all like witchcrafty, and like any tool, something can be used for positive or negative once again, right? Like anything. And then I talk through kind of what each card means, but I take a slightly different stance, because there's plenty of i. Are resources out there to learn what each card means. My emphasis, what I'm talking about is how you connect personally with it. Because you with your cards as a reader, it's going to be very personal to you. And even if you're reading for somebody else, the cards speak to you in a certain way. So you gotta identify what that language is what that in relationship is, everything in the world, in the universe, is in relationship, right? And so I go through things like that and how to how things might jump out at you, you know? So you have a single picture, but how do things suddenly jump out at you, which you didn't actually see before? And to trust in those things. So I'll give a series of examples of that and go through the the general kind of meaning of each card. But you know, there's a positive and negative on each as well. So you can it's how you draw from it, and it's also dependent on what someone asks you, and also is dependent on how the cards speak to one another in in a spread.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:06

Yeah, I'll leave it up to you. Do you feel like pulling a card for the audience today?

Robyn Steyn 1:01:13

Oh, for the audience, yeah. Um, I will, you know, but I'm going to use this deck. My sister bought this deck for me a couple of, couple of weeks ago, and the same people my the boxes. Sorry, in boxes, it's the same people who do this and the and the Starseed deck. But let's just find out, do you have this one?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:41

No, the other one, you

Robyn Steyn 1:01:42

should the other one, yes, yes. I love, I love this I love this deck. Um, oh, this one is the ancient stones, Oracle tunement, um, I don't know if that's, if you can read that, or that is kind of mirror imaged there.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:54

That is not Tarot right? That is oracle cards, right? Yeah,

Robyn Steyn 1:01:58

this is an Oracle Card. If I, mean, if I get tarot cards, it's okay, let me do a tarot card, then I'll use my deck. So this is my deck. It's called telepathic tarot, and it'll be available for sale on my website soon. So so these cards I painted all myself as well. So I'm just going to get, I think one card is a bit simple. I'm just going to quickly see what we need to know now for our highest good, right? Um, and I

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:34

for everybody listening and watching.

Robyn Steyn 1:02:37

What is it we need to know for our highest good? It's going to tell us where we're at, what we desire, what's working in our favor, challenge and the likely outcome. Notice, I say likely because we're working with probability, the trajectory. What do we all need to know? Just give my ball a bit of a ting. There we go.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:13

Okay, I'll lay them out first.

Robyn Steyn 1:03:18

Okay, oh, wow, okay.

Oh, my goodness, okay. I've got, I've got goosebumps, because this is awesome as a as a message for humanity, okay, where we currently are as humanity, as a society, is the Wheel of Fortune. What that basically says is that the wheel is turning. The wheel always turns. Now, this is actually quite a fortunate answer, because even though in the waves over there, everything seems stormy at the moment, in the distance, it's nice and smooth and beautiful. So we are all in a bit of a storm at the moment, and things are turning backwards and forwards. So that makes perfect sense. What is it that we desire? We all desire to move into prosperous energy. So this is the Page of Pentacles. So sometimes this is talking about materialistic things, the physical world, right? We all want to know that we're on the right path, the right direction, and that our direction is fruitful and is abundant, right? That we're going places, and that we have luck on our side, and we see a lucky coin. So we're getting the signs and synchronicities. So we as a collective are in a bit of the storm. It's backwards and forwards. We're wanting that. We're wanting to know we're on the right direction, the right path. Okay, what's working in our favor is the High Priestess, our intuition, our higher selves, our seeing beyond the veil, so psychic awareness at the moment, for humanity, particularly those who are watching this. Is going to be that we're starting to get little nudges and little senses of intuition. I'm going to quickly interrupt myself here, because my mama asked Anika Sanjay the other day about gut instincts and intuition, and they say that's a very different thing intuition. So you have a gut instinct, which is usually an emotional response of something that has happened from the past. So it's a bit of like a recorded history that the body remembers, and the body says, Oh, this is a similar vibration. We're going to make your your stomach feel like a knot. And that's a gut instinct, right? Even though it's not, you know, and they were saying there's a big difference between that, that, because that's to do with history, right? And intuition is something that flashes in, usually feels like it's coming up over here, and it's, uh, your first immediate flash event in impression of either inspiration or something of a love nature or something of a yes, I want to do this. Or, Wow, I didn't know this before the mind starts to intellectualize it. So if you can catch it when it says, flash. So that's what was working in humanity's favor, the ability to really access our intuition at this moment. The challenge is that it's taking so damn long. Okay, this is a knight of pentacles. You see how he is. He's a guy on a camel going through the desert. And behind him, he's got, it's very small, but there's a tortoise and there's a a plant there. So he's traveling very dark, fast distances. At the moment, things seem very desolate, right? As for humanity, it's like, well, we're just on the same tracks. I cannot see where the path is, right? It just all looks really desolate, and nothing is happening. But this card, knight of pentacles, is a, he is actually the most reliable night. It's an action card, and it basically says, slow and steady wins the race. So as a challenge for humanity at the moment is that things are much slower. Progress is slower than we want it to be, right? But it's just a challenge. If you keep just plodding on, just keep plotting on, it'll get there. The outcome is a chariot. The chariot is victory and triumph. Okay, so is being able to embrace our light and our shadow together to say, Okay, I know what my so called flaws are. I know my good stuff is, but you know what to hell with it. I'm going anywhere. I'm going to move forward. I'm going to, it's basically a card where there's a lot of uncertainty around what the what the next corner, what's around the next corner, but you decide you know what, I'm going to go for it, and I'm just going to put all my eggs in that basket, and I'm going gonna go for it. And the chariot is all about triumph and victory. So it's, it's really kind of standing in your power and kind of going, Yes, I know I have flaws, but I'm going to do this anyway, right, and try and improve life. So it's, it's a really, I mean, there's two major, three major arcanas in a five card spread, which major arcanas tend to talk about predestined currents of energy. So yes, we're in a bit of this wobbly way at the moment, intuition is super high and but actually, triumph is on our side, if we can embrace and accept the shadows of ourself and the shadows of other people and collectors and communities, even the dark stuff, and say, okay, cool, we're going to take them all and we're going to go, we're going to run with this. So I would say that's, that's pretty awesome for for humanity. So I like that. Yeah, it was.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:47

I love the ending this episode, so it's a perfect wrap up. Uh, although I have to ask you the final question, the biggest one of all, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective, Robin,

Robyn Steyn 1:09:03

deeper meaning of life. Hmm, for me, I think it's at this precise moment

in time, as you asked me, because I'm sure the answer would change tomorrow, the next day. Right now, I think it's important for me my meaning in life is to understand that everything and every person and every object around me is a version of myself. And therefore everything can be my friend in, you know, to degree. So therefore everything is actually in harmony to who I am as a being. And so my meaning at the moment is, how can I, how can I look at my world, my reality, as a. A version of myself. And if I can do that, then I move more into compassion. And if I move more into compassion, then I'm moving more into self, acceptance of myself and acceptance of the Excite, the exciting ride that we're all then, you know, so yeah, right now, that's what I would say, Yeah, it'll change tomorrow, I'm sure. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:24

Thank you so much. This has been truly inspiring. A lot of knowledge and inspiration in just one episode. I love that. I think it's so interesting that the skills you have and excited that you're one of our master class teachers, and if anybody's interested, of course, they can find it at wisdomfromnorth.com/membership. Where can they find you, RobYn, if they want to work with you,

Robyn Steyn 1:10:50

yes, yes. Um, so check out my website. It's Robynstayn.com, R, O, B, Y N, S, T, E, Y N.com, and yes, you can book a reading with me. I've also got a book about spiritual awakening and learning to channel if you're interested. I've got my deck of cards, and I'm actually also working on collaborating with good friend of mine who has a yoga yoga Safari. So my father's got a safari operating business in Namibia, and we're going to be, I'm collaborating with a yoga teacher, the massage therapist, with the channeling and the Tarot. We're going to be doing a eight day Namibian Safari next year in the Kalahari and nama desert, where people can come and they'll be doing yoga massage, obviously, traveling. And I'll be doing channeling events as well and and they also get a tar reading as well, so that's will be also advertised soon. But obviously, if anyone's interested, they can also send me an email just to so I can send them the details when that's all up and running and ready to go. Exciting,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:58

exciting. Thank you so much for coming back to the show Robyn. It's a thrill having you as always

Robyn Steyn 1:12:03

thank you for having me. Thank you. Okay, take care.