As we cross the threshold into a new year, spiritual teacher and channeler Rebecca Dawson reveals that humanity is entering an unprecedented phase of evolution. Unlike past cycles of change, our physical bodies are now accompanying our consciousness on this journey. This shift is bringing a new level of complexity to our daily lives, particularly through the lens of fluid resonance, a state where our external world begins to vibrate in direct alignment with our internal truth.
Moving Beyond Mirroring to Fluid Resonance
For eons, human relationships have been governed by the laws of karma, exchange, and “mirroring”—where others reflect our unresolved wounds back to us. However, Dawson explains that we are now transitioning into a “Fifth Dimensional” paradigm. In this new space, relationships shift from mirroring to amplification.
This is the essence of fluid resonance: your environment and partners no longer just show you what you need to fix; they amplify the core essence of who you are. This can be challenging if you have unresolved tension, as that tension will now be magnified. The goal of fluid resonance is to move us toward “soul resonance,” where we are surrounded by people and experiences that expand our highest potential.
The New Human and the Evolution of Time
The year 2026 is set to be a pivotal “unhooking” from old structures. Dawson highlights two major areas of change:
- The Dissolution of Time: Many are already noticing that time is no longer predictable—it speeds up and slows down sporadically. This biological and vibrational “unhooking” from linear time is necessary to allow our bodies to evolve at a rate that supersedes the slow motion of the past 300,000 years.
- The Rise of Actualized Intelligence: The masters channeled by Rebecca refer to AI not as “artificial,” but as “actualized intelligence.” It is a tool mirroring our consciousness’s ability to create and express internal visions (like graphics or complex ideas) instantly in the physical world.
Finding Stability in Fluidity
During the channeled portion of the interview, the Masters offered a vital perspective on the current sense of global instability. They suggest that we should not look for consistency—which acted as an anchor to the old matrix—but rather find a new state of stability through fluidity.
True stability in fluid resonance is found in your ability to trust your own sense of direction in the moment. Whether it’s focusing on your breath or acknowledging the stability of a tree outside your window, these simple anchors allow you to navigate a reality that is fundamentally changing. We are finally moving out of a 300,000-year containment and back into the cosmic spiral of evolution.
Transcript of the interview
Jannecke Øinæs 0:00
How will the energies change for the new year? You said, change is on the horizon.
Rebecca Dawson 0:05
This is really an unprecedented time for humanity, because when you go through a shift of consciousness like we are now, your physical body goes with you. We're going through all sorts of physical symptoms, emotional symptoms. The people are questioning relationships. Right now, they're questioning routines. There's a generalized movement with human collective consciousness towards freedom. So when it comes to space exploration, the masters have shared that it's what we're going to experience and discover is in a direct accordance with the collective human consciousness and how it's evolving. So there's a big shift happening in consciousness now. We're all talking about it. We're all feeling it. That means there's going to be a big shift in our view of reality,
Jannecke Øinæs 0:54
This expanded view of reality, that they will actually see extraterrestrials, aliens, Star people physically in their environments.
Rebecca Dawson 1:07
Yes, to be fair, that's already happening.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:18
Rebecca Dawson, a warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North show.
Rebecca Dawson 1:23
Thank you very happy to be here with you again.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:27
I'm excited to see you again. I feel like we always have such in depth conversations, and I feel so uplifted afterwards. And for our new subscribers today, you are a spiritual teacher and author and also a channeler for more than 25 years, you're channeling the masters. You're also one of our masterclass teachers in my own membership, which I'm really excited about. And today we thought we would speak about the changes that are arising for the new year. Because what I find so interesting when I interview channel channelers like yourself is that you constantly download new information, or knowledge and wisdom from masters, from those you are channeling. So I'm curious to see what we'll learn today. However, before we do that for the audience today, how do you feel that our conversation today will expand people's consciousness and raise their vibration.
Rebecca Dawson 2:28
Well, it's really about being fully present. And it's quite simple, actually, rather than any wisdom being able to raise your vibration or consciousness, it's a question of how present you can be in the Now moment that then enables your consciousness to expand. And oftentimes what you're feeling conversations like this, or many of the other beautiful conversations that you've brought to the world is a resonance, and you feel, oh yes, or that's familiar to me, or you can naturally feel yourself wake up and pay attention. And that in itself is your consciousness expanding and evolving, and it does that through resonance and recognition. But unless we are in that present moment, it's difficult to experience that.
Jannecke Øinæs 3:14
True, true. And you are very connected, in tuned. And from what I understand, you have been searching to know God from you were a young child. How do you perceive and feel the energies right now on your body? Because I feel they're quite intense, and I'm curious, how do you experience it?
Rebecca Dawson 3:38
Well, actually, I'm not exempt, so any of the symptoms and experiences that as humanity we're going through as our consciousness is shifting at this time. This is really an unprecedented time for humanity, because when you go through a shift of consciousness like we are now, your physical body goes with you. That's what's different about this compared to other cycles of experience and civilization the world's been through this time. We're not having a big cataclysmic event where, you know the physical blueprints going and another one's introduced. We're actually, we're actually transforming our physical capacity through consciousness. And so because of that, we're going through all sorts of physical symptoms, emotional symptoms, all thought, all sorts of things. And sometimes this can feel like discomforts within the human body. I have a human body, so I'm not exempt to those things. And over the years, I've I've encouraged people to see themselves as barometers or weather veins for what's happening vibrationally, because for me personally, it helps me to deal with it better with myself, I see myself as less of a problem to be solved and more of oh, this is the vibrational weather that. It's happening today. I woke up this morning and I there was some anxiety going on in my body. So there's anxiety moving through the collective field right now as we're changing. And so when you see it as something that belongs to humanity, as a collective shift, it really does become less of your own personal crisis, and it helps you to then say, well, okay, that's happening. Do I feel anything else about myself that feels more stable than that at this time? And it brings us really back to the seat of our stability, which is our our inner wisdom and our inner consciousness.
Jannecke Øinæs 5:39
I like that metaphor to look at it as like this, the weather like clouds come and they go, and behind the clouds there's always sun. I like that picture. And just to go back to your longing to know God or consciousness as a young child now you've been channeling for 25 years, and whenever I speak with you, it feels like you're always connected. So have you felt that you found God? And what is God to you?
Rebecca Dawson 6:10
Now, that's such a beautiful question. I don't often get asked that question, if ever. So. Thank you. Yeah, my focus really was actually from a very young age, but I really became very focused upon it when I was in my early 20s, and that was actually after having my first channeling experience. I really wanted to understand what is this. And I thought the ultimate question to understand, what is this, and what is consciousness, and what what am I was to look to what is the source of everything. And as far as I could understand in reading religious texts, and I read a lot of writings from mystics from the Dark Ages, for example, and I have Catholic backgrounds, so I knew about the church and those kinds of philosophies, but none of it really helped me feel as if I was a part of it. I always felt like it was something happening in the backdrop or behind the scenes of life. So I really wanted to understand what it meant to feel it at the front and center of my life every day. So that was the beginning, really, of my journey into unity consciousness, which was the embodied feeling and sense and experience that what's happening here in my human experience is not actually separate to what's happening behind the scenes, and that really informed my whole reality completely differently. And so from my early 20s onwards, it really changed the way I see the world and who I was in it, and it really changed the way I see channeling as well. And this is something that's probably not discussed that often, because when I first started channeling, I had the point of view, that it was a consciousness outside of myself, behind the scenes, or something that knew something more, that would then come either into me or through me to come out. And what I discovered through my explorations, more into God as a as a unity and everything is that it's something that comes out of me into the world, rather than through me into the world. Now, that sounds like a very subtle distinction, but it's a really big one, because what it means is that there is nothing that we need to do to earn the right to experience that it's easily accessible to everyone, and I'm, I'm a firm believer in that for channeling, but also it's that there isn't any hierarchy when it comes to wisdom or when it comes to spirituality. And that, for me was a really, a very important pillar of what we do with consciousness. So for myself as a channeler, I see myself as Source consciousness, expressing itself in many different ways, in many different forms. And this personality and this human as Rebecca is just one little branch of a bigger branch of a bigger tree of the One God. If that makes sense, instead of going out, I just relax back into the tree and move out my awareness into a different branch. That's it.
Jannecke Øinæs 9:40
So when you refer to the Masters, are you also, in a way, referring to yourself as a master, or the master within you?
Rebecca Dawson 9:49
Yes, and it took me a while to figure that out, because I had a very different philosophy as a child, that you know, there was this hierarchically hierarchical structure for us. Spiritual wisdom and knowledge and the masters were out here somewhere, and I was down here somewhere, but I had a lot of from a young age, I didn't forget a lot of other experiences and other lives that I had had, whether we call them past lives or concurrent lives in multi dimensionality. And it wasn't until I started channeling and being a little bit more public about it, moving into my 30s, that people started sending me stories about these masters or histories about these masters that they had read or that they had heard through other channelers or teachers that I didn't know anything about. And in the beginning, that was quite confusing, because what people were sending me were memories that I already had, but my past lives. So it took me a little while to say, Oh, I see what's happening here. So there's one way you could look at it, where you could say, well, I'm another version of the masters that I bring through, or we could say that we are all part of the one and that the branch that the masters are on are the same branch of the tree that I'm on. So if I just relax my mind a little bit, I can move into that branch more easily. So there's a range of different ways we can view it, but ultimately, the simple way is to say we all one, and it's really our ability and capacity to remember how to relax and access that one that enables us to do so
Jannecke Øinæs 11:42
and we might come back to that. And it's a very empowering perspective, I feel like, because I'm still a bit like a part of me is still stuck in that hierarchy way of seeing it, because that's so deep down in my belief system, from childhood and from just cultural upbringing, but it is so empowering to feel like, you know, I am the master. I have a master inside, and I'm consciousness, and everything that's expressing through me is God or source, and there's nothing I'm not outside. I don't need permission to do anything. And I think that's a realization we're coming more and more into, and that ties, you know, over to the new human experience. You wrote a book about it many years ago also. So tell us we're moving now very quickly into a new year. How will we feel a difference? What? How will the energies change for the new year? You said change is on the horizon?
Rebecca Dawson 12:46
Yes, well, we're already in change, which is why people are a little bit confused about themselves at this time. I don't know really what I really want anymore. I'm not sure if I want to do these things anymore. A lot of people are questioning relationships right now. They're questioning routines, because we don't feel the same sense of resonance with structure that we used to. There's a there's a generalized movement with human collective consciousness towards freedom, but the mind will come in and try to bring us back into structure, because that's what it's very used to. So that's a lot of the conflict that's going on in people right now, and how that's really going to show up a little bit more in 2026 for people, very specifically, is through not just what your identity is in the world, but how you're experiencing time. So that's going to be a very big shift in 2026 2026 a lot of people are feeling that already now that time doesn't seem to be predictable anymore. Sometimes things are really speeding up, sometimes things are really slowing down, and that's really getting our biological and vibrational systems unhooked from time structures so that we can actually begin to really evolve, both biologically and spiritually, at a rate that is able to supersede that slow motion sense of evolution that we've been moving through for so long. So time's a really big one. The way in which we're feeling about relationships is going to be markedly different. And I know this has already been a big theme since 2023 for a lot of people going through, what are they feeling about who they're with, what they want to experience, what does partnership and relationship even really mean? What are dynamics in families really mean,
Jannecke Øinæs 14:49
and what happened way in what way will we experience relationship differently, or maybe expect differently or have a. Need to experience.
Rebecca Dawson 15:03
So thank you for asking that question. So the way in which we've been taught, and this, again, goes into our belief systems, particularly around a lot of spiritual doctrine, the way in which the dynamic of the paradigm we've been living in, this third, fourth dimensional paradigm. It's all been about contract and exchange. Contract, exchange, balance, working things out, karma. So that's all based on duality. We're moving out of duality now into what a lot of people have been calling Fifth Dimensional Reality, which is really a bridge to multi dimensionality, and that's where we start to move out of contract, and we start to move out of mirroring and exchange in relationships. And how this begins to look for people is, I don't feel like this is reflecting back to me anymore. I don't feel like there's anything I really want from this person, or perhaps I don't feel like I have anything to give. So it's that, it's that bond of exchange, or what we might call contract, that's beginning to dissolve. And when that begins to happen, it can be easy to become disillusioned, because we can start to think, Well, why am I in this if there is no exchange. If I can't see that, there's anything coming back to me. So I want to encourage anyone that's going through that disillusionment right now, it's okay, because we're actually moving now into a more fifth dimensional paradigm of experience, where it's less about exchange and contract, and now it's more about resonance and amplification. So amplification is very different to mirroring, because a mirror will reflect back to you what you need to see. Amplification gives you more of the essence of yourself. So as we start to move into that, people are starting to feel more and more and more and more of themselves.
Jannecke Øinæs 17:10
Is it fair to say that we will move into more harmonic relationships, more than push and pull and drama and karma and working out stuff, it will feel more like a soul mate with lots more freedom in the relationship.
Rebecca Dawson 17:28
Yes, that's that's a nice way, nice way to put it. Structurally, it'll feel like a lot more freedom. But it will also be challenging in a new and different way, because if you if there's something in particular in your consciousness that wants to have an experience, it's going to be amplified in your environment. This is where we're really being introduced to. This notion of you create your reality. So partners now and dynamics with relationships are amplifying. So if you're feeling a little bit disrupted about life. Chances are your partner is going to do that and some in your experience. So this is where relationships are about resonance. Eventually we move to a place where the core of your being is in resonance with the core of the being of your partner, but we are going through a period for at least the next six years or so where we need to be very careful, because if we have things in us that are unresolved, that come to the surface, it's going to be amplified by the partner. But this is to bring things to our attention more quickly. Oh, this is an issue that we need to really look at.
Jannecke Øinæs 18:44
Almost like when we're in the dream world, whatever we think about will appear. It's almost like we're manifesting faster.
Rebecca Dawson 18:52
Yes, yes. And so relationships are now becoming amplifiers for that experience. So if we understand that we also understand that any choices that are made around relationships in the next three to six years are designed to move us into new groups of resonance. So if you're happy to see well, this got amplified in my space today with my partner, this is something you know that's got my attention and you're willing to move through that, what you will discover is that eventually you're moving to a place of resonance, where at the very core of your consciousness, what you've really come here to create in this reality, what it is that you're as highest potential will start to be amplified by your environment and your relationships. So it's a big time for movement in the next three to six years, because some people will discover, well, in this this is not amplifying me. This is not more of who I am. And that can happen because I have dreams of what I would like to experience in life. And it's not, it's not being demonstrated in my experience. It's not being amplified my relationships or my partners aren't expanding that experience, in my view. So it's, it's an interesting time, not a push pull, right?
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Rebecca Dawson 21:45
Yeah, I think that's already starting to happen. People are experiencing that with AI, for example, and a lot of AI systems. And it's interesting, we've seen a lot of people kind of shift their view. You know, people in the kind of spiritual world shift their view from we don't like AI, to Oh, AI might be an interesting, an interesting tool for expanding our view of reality. So in essence, the bastards have described what's happening with those you know, what we call artificial intelligence. They call actualized intelligence, because it's another fractalized possibility of reality extending our consciousness in a very, very quick and fractalized manner, which means that it's a tool now, or a demonstration of how capable our conscious is of creating things, we'd say like an extension tool for for reality. But there are the masters have shared that there are already in in design and in construction, are new types of computing systems. The closest word I have to it is a quantum computing system, but I don't feel that it's going to be called that when it's launched, that can enable us to begin to create systems that support the ideas and the potentials that are beginning to become generated within human consciousness. So all of these technologies, in essence, our infrastructure that enables what's within us to become actualized externally. Because, for example, something simple, like people being able to sit at home and create graphics for what they're having dreams or meditations about this is a capacity that enables what's arising within human consciousness to be expressed and actualized externally. So that's a very simple example, but there's going to be a lot more of that moving into 2026 and beyond.
Jannecke Øinæs 23:57
And what about space exploration? You also mentioned for me that we will explore much more, and that will also be in a in accordance to our level of consciousness evolving, right?
Rebecca Dawson 24:11
Well, this is, this is an interesting one, because when people take talk about space exploration, it's not so different to what we were speaking about with the the older paradigm for channeling is something out there that we're trying to connect to. The way that we see space in general, or any form of space exploration is it's all part of the same reality that we are generating from our consciousness. So we sit at the middle of a sphere of reality, and as our consciousness expands that view of reality shifts. So as that consciousness expands our ideas about what technology can be, expands our view of reality shifts. Yeah. So when it comes to space exploration, the masters have shared that it's what we're going to experience and discover is in a direct accordance with the collective human consciousness and how it's evolving. So there's a big shift happening in consciousness now. We're all talking about it. We're all feeling it. That means there's going to be a big shift in our view of reality, and that means our view of what we feel exists in third dimensionality, at least beyond the Earth, is going to shift dramatically. And a lot of people are speaking about things happening in 2026 2027 2028 around space exploration, we see it as a big shift in human collective consciousness that enables us to have a different view of reality, which means things appear quite quickly, quite suddenly. All of a sudden, we're able to see these things now, there are new aspects of life that are a part of our reality that weren't there before. And so it's less of a cause and effect. It's less we were able to do this, and therefore this happened, and it's more suddenly we now have awareness of this.
Jannecke Øinæs 26:17
And when you're saying this, you mean cos our cosmic family, extraterrestrials, the lives on other planets.
Rebecca Dawson 26:24
Yes, but consider also this is, this is interesting, too, if you think about consciousness as the center of a sphere, in each of us at the center of a sphere, and our view of reality expands based upon the expansion or evolution of our consciousness, the area around the earth and what we're able to perceive and experience is going to expand. So we see this in terms of technologies that are produced that enable us to see further into space. That's indicative of an expansion in your reality. There's a big shift happening right now. So within the next two years, that's just going to absolutely explode, where human consciousness is going to be directed far more generally, from most people into what's happening beyond what we believe the containment of the Earth, instead of just what's happening in our own little personal lives? That's an evolution of consciousness.
Jannecke Øinæs 27:26
However, we do hear about a split that some will stay sort of in the 3d mindset, and others will ascend up to 5d so will this happen to some this? Well level of understanding and this expansion of understanding, and some will still have another experience of reality, a more limited one.
Rebecca Dawson 27:55
Well, see that question in itself is interesting, because in multi dimensionality, all of these different versions of Earth exist simultaneously. Anyway. The expansion of our consciousness means we now have an awareness that there's some people experiencing this and there's some people experiencing this. It's the expansion of your awareness that enables you to see that there are different versions of the Earth reality that people are experiencing. So rather than see it as a split I prefer to see it as an expansion of awareness that enables us to experience these different versions and these different vibrational spectrums of human experience
Jannecke Øinæs 28:44
interesting and to be concrete. Would it be possible that for those who have this expanded view of reality that they will actually see extraterrestrials, aliens, Star people physically in their environments, that they're actually will be able to see them, yes,
Rebecca Dawson 29:11
and to be, to be, to be fair, that's already happening.
Jannecke Øinæs 29:17
I was just thinking about it when I asked the question, this is already happening. It's just not happening.
Rebecca Dawson 29:26
But there's still see this. There's still this idea of a split or us and them. It's happening to me, but it's not happening to them. And when we start to feel more into Unity Consciousness, it's happening for humanity. So it is happening for humanity. It's always been happening for humanity, but the collective human consciousness hasn't been accommodating that possibility, mainly because of the constructs in our sociological environment, political. Call an economic environment that encouraged that possibility not to exist, because if there was a lot of attention on that experience or that possibility, it wouldn't be those systems and structures that we all participate with wouldn't have as much potency to us. We probably wouldn't give as much energy to them. Interesting.
Jannecke Øinæs 30:24
That's probably why we're seeing drones appearing much, many more drones. And maybe the three eye Atlas is that that just part of it all,
Rebecca Dawson 30:34
again, it's the expansion of consciousness. So now look, all of this is in existence. Yeah. Three eye Atlas is an interesting one. I wasn't really aware of that too much because I don't really look at the news, but I've had quite a few people asking us about that. And that is, that is super interesting. Again, it's indicative of the expansion of human consciousness, because now we're able to see what we couldn't see before. Now, people might say, well, we can see it now because it's entered our reality. But there is a whole lot of things that have been sitting just around the Earth experience that we haven't been able to see because our consciousness wasn't expanded enough to accommodate it.
Jannecke Øinæs 31:18
And you also spoke about the new human, or no, the new children. You also spoke about the new children. Could you share a little bit about that those who are being born, are they coming in with an elevated consciousness,
Rebecca Dawson 31:36
absolutely, and they're coming in within that the key thing is that they're coming into an environment where the consciousness is different. This is important, because we all have, you know, we all have this incredible state of potential. We're all, if you want to use the phrase, children of God, or we're all, we're all angels, really. We have this beautiful potential of life itself, but depending on the environment and the blueprints that you embody, that's going to be potentialized in a different way. So yes, there are aspects of consciousness that are arriving as children, and have been for the past 20 years or so now, but it's getting more and more prevalent now that are both arriving with less genetic and memory system for what it means to be human, in other words, less generational trauma, less conditioned inherited ideas about what reality is. So they're a little bit fresher. They're not adhering to structure so much, and as such, their minds work differently. Their energy systems work differently. But also they're arriving within a different vibrational environment, because the vibrational bandwidth, the vibrational spectrum for the human collective consciousness, has widened so much that they're now arriving within an environment where so much of what they're bringing without the conditioning, can really start to be actualized. They can really start to use it. It can start to be demonstrated. So one of the big things we've seen, of course, in the last 30 years or so, or 40 years, is autism and ADHD. Now there's a lot of conjecture around what causes these things, particularly autism. ADHD, the brain works completely differently. We've seen hundreds of cases of these sorts of children come through who have a very advanced activated energy system. They're not really running off the same imprints of emotional memory. For example, in we see in ADHD kids, their minds are are working multi dimensionally. They're here, they're here, they're here, they're here, they're here, they're here. And they're able to to hold several points of awareness simultaneously so they're not distracted. They're engaging simultaneously in multiple directions, which means that they don't want to limit their focus into one particular direction. It feels too slow, it feels heavy. So we're starting to see these capacities now come out through these children, and hopefully our environment will catch up to them very soon, right?
Jannecke Øinæs 34:35
That's important. What about karma? Are they bringing less karma into this incarnation as well.
Rebecca Dawson 34:42
Well, they're bringing through physical and energetic blueprints that don't naturally carry it,
Jannecke Øinæs 34:52
carry karma, right?
Rebecca Dawson 34:54
Because, remember what we've suggested about the chakra system, that that that enables that? Emotional memory to stay in your field, if they're already moving to a vibrational state where they're less reliant on the track, where they can still experience that for balance within the body. But they're operating through different system. They're not really storing emotional memory, which means, in some way, and this is controversial, perhaps some way, they're less susceptible to storing trauma. And if you think about the way minds work, it is, they move from one thing to the other far more quickly. So you need to have the capacity to store trauma to be able to really carry out those karmic patterns or imprints.
Jannecke Øinæs 35:45
And what about us, who are not these new children? We are storing trauma. What about our trauma? Does it get easier to let go of our trauma now?
Rebecca Dawson 35:56
Well, it becomes more difficult to ignore, and I think we can all agree on that, because as our vibration refines and shifts, some people like to say raises. That's like silt at the bottom of the pond that starts to come up to the surface. So we can't ignore it, because our vibrational system is no longer compatible with the storage of trauma, so it's being shaken up a little bit. So a lot of us are feeling a lot of emotion and upset from the past and childhood things that we're moving through, and that is, in essence, enabling our systems to upgrade so that which we used to store is able to filter itself out.
Jannecke Øinæs 36:41
Yes, and is it filtering itself out by acknowledging it and feeling it? So let's say a lot of emotions and traumas are coming up for many, many around the globe, and it's hard to deal with. It's hard to handle, and we can't just fly to the therapist like every week, not all of us. So what can we do? Is it like deep meditation, or is this more merely to acknowledge it and sort of use our consciousness to say, Okay, I see you, I hear you, I accept you, I let you go.
Rebecca Dawson 37:25
I love your question. Thank you. I think an important thing to remember is that we're all in this together, and so we're doing this on behalf of humanity. It feels very personal. So we have things that come up from childhood or from personal relationships or things that happen to us, and it comes up, and it's helpful, like we discussed at the beginning of our conversation, to say, Oh, this is, this is what's coming up for the for humanity to to let go of today, not just be at peace with, not just me. And that's the first thing, because that makes it less of a burden and less like it's something we can't move through. It's very difficult. So, oh, this is it okay. So I'm going to with my biology and with my very beautiful, advanced vibrational system, I'm going to allow it to come up from deep within and be expressed, and I'm going to allow it to relax into the collective field, no longer storing it with insight inside myself. So that's one technique that I feel is really valuable, the depersonalization. And then let me feel it, let me filter it out through the body. Let the body feel it, because that's important too. Let the body feel it. If you're crying, let the body feel that crying, you know, let the body move with it, because then it's not something psychological that exists on its own, that we have to solve in an abstract, conceptual way. Now, it's grounded, it's practical, it's here with us. So in some ways, bringing it back to the body and letting the body feel it and express it is really the last point that happens before it resolves. So that's what we would encourage people to consider.
Jannecke Øinæs 39:26
And since you're saying we are you channeling right now?
Rebecca Dawson 39:32
Yeah, beginning to move into that space. Yes, lovely.
Jannecke Øinæs 39:37
And then I would like to ask the Masters something I've been wondering about, for instance, let's say for a person, it gets too much, they become depressed or have anxiety. Is it okay to use medication, you know, antidepressant, for instance, or is that, again, a by. Passing, and we need to go through the emotions. I mean, we do see that medication can really help for some people, and they can change their lives. So I'm curious about the spiritual, metaphysical perspective on that from the masters,
Rebecca Dawson 40:16
for sure. And actually, you know, even within my own family and family of origin. There is, you know, there's a history of of that challenge with mental health and and medication. So this is something I've asked myself within my own experience. I'm going to go in a little bit deeper here and have the Masters come through and answer your question. Thank you. Yeah. The greetings. Here we are with you. It's important to embrace that the joy of human experience is the experience of many possibilities. And when humans begin to move into an awareness of their consciousness, it's easy for them to say, well, there is one way, and this is the way. The more you discover the nature of yourself, the more you realize that Source consciousness is expressing itself through a myriad of possibilities and even something that seems to be a torturous experience of self reflection or self Annihilation is also Source consciousness expressing itself in a particular way. So we always like to take the approach, if you will, that there is nothing that is valid and there is nothing that is invalid, but rather there are experiences that are being expressed. So when you ask the question, Is this appropriate or not, we would say it entirely depends on what the consciousness within that particular human wishes to experience. And there are those that wish to experience relief. And there are those that wish to experience a sense of stability that they do not yet feel that they are able to encourage within themselves. So in our view, there are no rules when it comes to what you call exterior supplementation for stability. However, there will come a moment and a time within the consciousness of that being where the dissatisfaction arises again. And that dissatisfaction may arise even in a state of induced stability, where it arises in terms of, there must be something more than this. There must be more that I can feel. There must be more than I can imagine. And feeling states, very important, because many humans, they want to feel something, but they move into a state of induced stability, where it's difficult for them to feel anything at all. And this is where those particular humans, it is their imagination, is their inner vision that begins to unleash so for many humans, such as yourself, you really begin to feel life, and you begin to feel enthusiasm and creativity and imagination, oftentimes through your emotional state. Yes, so you experience a sudden rush. I have an idea to do this. I am inspired to do this, and it's very much a feeling state experience for you. But there are also humans who are here, in our view, to really exercise that capacity for imagination and vision that does not become accompanied by a feeling state. And that's a different aspect of human consciousness. It's what we would call pure vision. And in our view, there are many humans at this time, who are challenged with what you call emotional or mental stability, who are choosing induced states of stability, but their internal capacity for imagination and creation is really starting to emerge, and so they are developing and exercising on behalf of human consciousness, a vision that is not necessarily accompanied by an emotional or feeling state. Now there is also a capacity yet for those humans to then introduce their feeling state and to begin to really amplify their creative and internal vision into something that is very beneficial for humanity. So that is how we choose to answer your question.
Jannecke Øinæs 44:59
Thank you. So that leads me over to another question I've been wondering about, and that is people with personality disorders. And I don't want to put people in boxes in one way and in another way. There's a lot of talk about, for instance, narcissist or people who are called psychopaths. And I'm curious if this is something the soul chose from before to have us an experience, or if this is something they have developed over maybe eons of incarnations. Or how do you perceive a mental disorder, and is that something that you also can heal in an incarnation? Because some are saying that this can change in one incarnation.
Rebecca Dawson 45:52
Well, let us first be very clear that whether or not something is perceived as karmic through reincarnations or experience through one event in a particular human life, it is always at a point of agreement within the consciousness of that being so, whether it's inherited through blueprint, whether it's generational and or it comes over What you call many lifetimes, there is still agreement there, regardless. What we would say is that at this time, there are and we're going to divide it for you so that your your mind brains, can become clear about how this is mapped. We do not normally choose to divide, but we will divide in this way. There are those who have what you would perceive to be certain personality disorders that distill their particular focus into a very fine point. And these are what perhaps you would call the narcissistic type personalities, or the sociopathic type possibilities, where all of their consciousness is refined into one particular point of view, they are having an amplified experience of the personal self, or what you would call the ego. This is what I see, and this is all that there is yes, and so that is in many ways, like Source consciousness coming into a very fine laser point of focus. And a laser can both be a tool, but it can also cut through things. Yes, it can also be considered to be a weapon. So this is how we would see it is a very concentrated This is the experience laser focus. And then there are those, what you call personality conditions that become very dispersed, such as those who experience schizophrenia or multiple personal personality or bipolar, yes, and so this is an extreme dispersion of the experience of consciousness. I have this point of view or this perspective in this moment and these feeling states, and now it's here. So that is consciousness experiencing itself in a very you may call it fractured way. We would call it dispersed way. So both of those experiences are consciousness as a human having an amplified experience. One is amplified into this point of view is the only point of view that exists, and the other is dispersed into I am this, and then I am this, and then I am this. Both of those experiences are, in many ways, seen as being accelerated. At this time on the planet, there's been a lot more of it in recent years. Whatever causality, humans could say there, it's because of this, it's because of this, it's because of this. Regardless, there's an amplified prevalence of these experiences. And if you consider the concentration and then the dispersion. It's all leading to a point where human consciousness now realizes that I am not many of these things sporadically, and I am not just one thing. I am perhaps part of all of these things. And this is where humanity starts to become more balanced. So leading up to that, there is an acceleration and an expansion of the all or the nothing, the many or the singular, almost at a breaking point where humanity begins to realize we are all one. It is all valid. We can be all of these things and nothing. Now, what does that look like for the awakening human? What that looks like between the extremes of those expressions is i. Realize I have multiple aspects of self. I present myself as this human on this day, but there's also this stream of my consciousness. There's also this part of me. There's also this particular stream of wisdom that comes through. And this is where what you believe to be past lives, future lives, other experiences that you've had in other dimensional realities all start to become available to you. So these particular psychological conditions are the extreme ends of a spectrum that humanity is moving into the middle of. That is how we describe it.
Jannecke Øinæs 50:51
Thank you for that. And as an advice for those who are experiencing these extreme personality disorders that have this singular focus, it can feel not very loving. It can feel like very difficult experience, especially if you're in a relationship with one, and we've heard many experience this and still have a hard time leaving, for instance, these people. And it's easy to think that we should just love and accept right, because it's all part of consciousness, and we're all one, but still we're then not loving ourselves, staying in that relationship. So do you have any advice on how to handle people like this?
Rebecca Dawson 51:43
Well, there is a great distinction between acknowledging and accepting it is as it is, as it is and as it is, and we are all part of the one. It's another thing to consciously and actively choose to participate with it. So at that point, and this is the shift that this one was speaking about with relationships, is that it's less about what is this mirroring to me, and it is more about is this amplifying the truth of who I am? And when you begin to answer that question, you begin to realize, actually, this doesn't resonate with me at all, and that's a very, very clear truth that can happen when you realize that relationships are moving into amplification. Is this amplifying the truth of who I am, or am I still playing the game of mirroring? What are they mirroring back to me? Because in many of those situations that you are speaking of, it's easy for the personality of the partner to say, well, maybe I can be the one that helps stabilize things. Maybe I can be the one to ignite change. And so for a time, they are mirroring back to them. You have the capacity to be stable. You have the capacity. I have the capacity to be compassionate regardless of the circumstances. I have the capacity to be forgiving. I have the capacity to look beyond human force. I have the capacity to forget what happened yesterday and to have a fresh start today. And so there's a period of time in the consciousness of that person, where the partner is acting as a mirror and it's showing them things about themselves, but their consciousness then expands beyond that, and now it says, But is this amplifying the truth of who I am? And that's when the realization occurs. I've learned a lot about who I am and what my qualities are, but is it amplifying me for the next phase of my evolution? And of course, at that moment, the obvious emerges. This is not an extension of who I am. I now feel quite separate from it.
Jannecke Øinæs 54:05
Yeah, that makes sense. It's really about empowering yourself, isn't it?
Rebecca Dawson 54:11
It's when you start to move beyond the point of seeing the partner as a tool for self reflection. I see that's the next evolutionary phase. I've self reflected, I've understood all of these things about myself, and now I want to have an experience where whatever environment or whatever I'm relationship I'm in, it's an amplification of myself. Therefore what it is that I desire, how it is I wish to express. I have more of it in my environment.
Jannecke Øinæs 54:43
Makes sense. All right. Do you have a final message for our audience today?
Rebecca Dawson 54:52
Well, blessed ones, we encourage you to be in a state of great enthusiasm at this time. The sense. Sense of instability that perhaps you may be feeling, the sense of confusion that you may be feeling, remember, this is a great shift for humanity, and therefore it's wise for you to say, well, this is what is occurring on this day. It is not a reflection of your own personal sense of stability, in that there is instability occurring at this point. What we encourage you instead to focus upon is, where is the stability within myself? What can I feel is stable? And for many people at this time, it could be something as simple as I can breathe. My breath is always here. This is stability. It could be something as simple as the tree outside my window is still there. This is stability. It could be as simple as my body is still here. This is stability. So we encourage you to find a point of stability in every moment and every day, because there is so much that is shifting and changing in your experience. Your whole structure of reality is changing at this time. It is not, in our view, reasonable to expect consistency. It is not reasonable to expect consistency within yourself. It is not reasonable to expect consistency in your relationships or in your environment at this time, because the shift is happening, it is reasonable for you to find some point of stability, even if it is just your ability to breathe and relax into that in the great wisdom and knowing that worlds are being born at this time and you are here for it, this is our message for you on this day. Thank you.
Jannecke Øinæs 57:09
Thank you. Are you back? Rebecca, yes, yes, nice, nice. Gosh, I had one more question, but maybe you could answer it, since they are speaking about this instability and how to find that stability somewhat in ourselves, when will it get better?
Rebecca Dawson 57:32
I'll go back in deeper again. My own mind is not interfering. It's not a question of, when will it get go back to stability that you have known? This is about moving into a new state of stability, and it's the stability in a sense of fluidity. This is new for humans. This is freedom. Because what you've not known is what freedom really feels like, because what you've considered to be stability has really been your anchor that has prevented you from experiencing freedom in a way that is appropriate for your vibrational capacity. So the stability is now to be found in your ability to be fluid. The stability comes now in your ability to say, Yes, I was interested in this, and now I'm interested in that, and I am confident in that change because I trust my own sense of direction. I trust my own sense of resonance, and what I am resonant with and what I am not. And so you're less reliant on consistency for your stability, and you're more reliant on your ability to be fluid with where you place your focus and attention, and that is the state of freedom and sovereignty that humanity is actually designed for. So in our view, it's a reinstatement back into fluidity and freedom, and that brings a new sense of stabilization in the body that is perhaps different to what you have been accustomed to.
Jannecke Øinæs 59:07
Thank you. That was the last piece I just felt I needed
Rebecca Dawson 59:12
peace. Be with you.
Jannecke Øinæs 59:14
Thank you. Okay, Ah, thank you, Rebecca, I felt we went deep today.
Rebecca Dawson 59:25
Thank you. I always enjoy our conversations, and thank you for your insightful and beautiful questions.
Jannecke Øinæs 59:34
Oh, thank you, yeah. I mean, it was interesting, and I think a lot of us are feeling this instability and just knowing that it's not just me, you know, I don't need to think it's something I'm doing wrong. Or here it comes again. I thought I've worked with this. It's actually something collective going on. And, like you said, just thinking that having that awareness could be. Helping already, could be healing already,
Rebecca Dawson 1:00:03
right, right, and not to be so hard on ourselves too.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:07
You know, true? Yeah, it's all new. Yeah. Who knows if it's has happened before, or if it's earth's first time, but it seems like this shift is going on in the universe as well, not just on planet earth, from what I've started to understand,
Rebecca Dawson 1:00:26
yes, yes, we are part of a collective evolutionary spiral and and the Earth itself is coming out of its, let's say, contained fixed sense of reality, and it's moving back into this cosmic spiral of evolution. So we're starting to move more in a natural rhythm, instead of in this artificially paced, very slow movement of evolution that we've been in for a long time,
Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:01
out of the matrix basically,
Rebecca Dawson 1:01:03
yes, yes, 300,000 years or so the Masters usually say around that time,
Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:09
ah, so we've been in the matrix for 300,000 years, huh? Okay, well, let's do this. That conversation another time, I had tons of questions just there. Thank you so much. Rebecca, my final questions to you is, what is self love to you?
Rebecca Dawson 1:01:28
Oh, self love, giving yourself permission to just be and not know and that to be enough.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:41
Profound. And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective as of now,
Rebecca Dawson 1:01:51
as a human, I'll say as a human, because the experience of life for consciousness it is as it is as a human, the experience of life at this time is to experience as much as you possibly can, even if it's just in one moment, sitting on the couch in stillness. How deeply Can I experience this moment?
Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:14
Oh, wow. I love that. That was deep. Oh, gosh, I love speaking with you. How can people connect with you, Rebecca, if they want to learn more, if they want to work with you, how can they do
Rebecca Dawson 1:02:25
so, oh, I've got a website. It's just my name, Rebeccadawson.com, and you can find me on YouTube and all the usual social media channels as well. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure to be here with you.
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