From Pain to Power: Energetic Alignment! With Gaia Chinniah

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Often the people with most pain are the ones with the most power. This young man was very, very unwell, but the power that was waiting in that dimension for the age of 22 for it to switch on through the pain is the power. I think it's a really important message for those who are pursuing the spiritual path and wanting awakenings. It will come for you when it's meant for you. The most unforced gifts are the most precious gifts that you will ever receive from the cosmic destiny. I went to Uluru airs rock in Australia relatively recently, and just feeling the Aboriginal energy there, amazing, that type of wisdom is coming in. Everything is coming together to be dealt with now before we can move forward. That makes it come to the present, rather than leading in things in the past, or thinking too much about the future. When the timelines merge, it's like a collapsing of old structures, a collapsing of old stories, and that accelerated time is now. I ah,

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It's so lovely to meet you, Jannecke, and we're both on the other side of the world. Night time for you, morning for me. But we've made it.

I know we finally made it, and it feels like I'm speaking with a person from the future, since you're a day ahead

only exactly, that's right, I am in the future.

But you know that is quite fitting, because you do do some time traveling with patients and clients, and you have some extraordinary spiritual gifts. And you had an awakening at 33 which, in a way, you self prophesized, and now you created soul 33 which is linked, and you are seeing people's past lives and other selves and what they are, who they are and Why. And this emerged, or started happening acts 33 which I find interesting, because Jesus also was awakening in his 30s, and that was the first thing I thought about when I heard you awoke in your 30s. And then I heard you in another video mention the Christ consciousness as well. So before we dive into all metaphysical stuff. I would love to hear your story. For everybody who is new to you, what happened 33

so, Jannecke, I am a corporate girl like I've got a master's degree. I had a product distribution company. I was sitting on this path of I believe this is who I am. These are the goals that I want to reach. So I was interested in spirituality, but it wasn't something that I ever thought that I would be pursuing as a career or helping people in that way. And so before I turned 33 probably a year or so before you are right, I did prophesize that something was going to happen to me at 33 but I never in a million years thought that it was going to be any type of awakening or anything spiritually natured. I just thought, oh, okay, something. I know something's going to happen to me at 33 but jannecke, there are so many people having these awakenings now, at these very auspicious times, because 33 as you've joined the connection to Christ consciousness. There are other ages where this is happening. So for me, it was 33 and that is when I started to piece together my soul story, to understand, okay, right? What is my mission, and what am I meant to accept in this mission, to pursue this path that is unfolding for me, and it's nothing forced. It wasn't anything forced. It was just starting to unfold at the age of 33 and so I just went with it. And obviously, over the years, I've had support of, you know, mediums and people that I would encounter on my natural journey who had given me little snippets of the story, but as a young woman pursuing tertiary education and wanting to be the best that I could in the corporate world, it went in one year and it came out the other year, because I was like, I don't know what these people are talking about, but as it happened and it started unfolding, that's when I realized, like, Oh, this is something that I meant to accept this mission. And I know those who are listening, lots of people are being asked to accept their mission, but some are not wanting to step into that yet, because they are fearful. So I'm hoping that my story, because of the number of clients that I see who are having these awakenings, and their body is starting to change, and their perception of the world is beginning. To have a wider perspective, that this actually encourages them, that I was just a normal woman doing my thing, thinking one way, but when you are consciously divinely connected, meaning, I was aware something spiritual was happening to me at that age, I just went with it to see what would happen, and then it's resulted in all the things that has happened since then.

And I'm curious, okay, so before that, were you spiritually inclined as a child? Did you have any extraordinary abilities then? So it was sort of like, okay, it's strengthening, but it's deepening. Or was it more like a shock, like, oh my goodness, there's another world there.

It was a shock, but it was a shock to me. And this is the thing I think people, when I have, you know, sessions with people, a lot of them will be like, what's my power? What am I meant to be doing? But the thing if is, if you were just living your life like how I was before 33 and I was just my personality had took over. My ego had took over. I look at myself and I still don't think I'm extraordinary in many in any way. I just was living my life and as a child, I don't recall having any extra perception of anything, but when I look back, I do know that I was very aware of what people were feeling, and I could perceive certain things. But to me, that was normal. So I can't tell you a particular story, like, oh, I used to see this. And I, you know, some people have amazing stories, but what I see now is absolutely for me, even every day doing this work, my jaw will be on the floor as to the information that is available about one soul. So for me, it's like, once that time is hit, for you, and everybody will have their own times in the way that their mission is exposed to them, that's when you'll know what you're meant to be doing with it. And for me, it was like that. It was a shock. It was like, oh my like, so much crying for the first two years, like, how am I meant to what am I meant to do with this? Why am I feeling all this? Why am I seeing all this and then over the years and still learning? It develops and you learn and you carry on. So I think a lot of people having these shock awakenings right now. What do I do with this?

Yeah, I had a slower one, but it never fully opened. Maybe my age is yet to come, because you said that we all will come to a point where an awakening will happen or will open up to our purpose. Can you talk a bit more about that?

Sure. I'll give you an example, because it's always the stories that people can really relate to. And I don't naturally remember every client, because the nature of my work is to channel and then move on to the next one. But there are certain stories Jannecke that really will stay with me forever, and I once quite recently, actually, you know, I don't know who sees me. I have an assistant who schedules my clients in, and I came online on Zoom, and I've never, ever experienced this. And this relates to the question that you're asking me, my whole screen was starting to go all multi colored and lines, and they were just going all like this, in this hypnotic way. And I was thinking all these years of going on Zoom and talking to people I've never seen my screen do that, so I took a quick, quick screenshot, and before I could even see who was on the other end, because I didn't know, I said, Do you see these colors? They are for you? And I hear this little voice going, Yes, I do. Then this person came online, and this person was a very, very young, chronological age. I don't see anybody under the age of 18, so this person was maybe a couple of years older than 18. And a beautiful, pure natured person was sitting here, and I was time traveling into these lifetimes where this person had had awakenings as a saint at the age of 22 so I asked this person. I said, How old are you? And then he and he said, Oh, well, I turned 22 very, very soon. And I said, Okay. And so his age for this particular person was 22 because I could see it. Because when I time travel, I'll time travel to the past, but it's often for the future, for the individual I'm talking to. So I'm seeing a projection of what may happen to that client if they're willing to accept the mission. And then I was looking at all of these because I was in another dimension, and I said to this person, I said, you know, you've been very, very sick with autoimmune disease, and you know, you didn't know it was that, and you're asking me to clear it from this particular dimension. And then he says to me, I'm so sick that I don't leave my house. I am house bound. I don't go to university, I don't go to school. But this is the interesting thing Janneke, that I'm finding with many, many COVID. Science, people who are having illnesses or disease in the body, often the people with most pain are the ones with the most power. Because this young man was very, very unwell. He had a very, very limited dietary options. He couldn't eat very much, couldn't leave the house. But the power within this man, this young man, was something I have never experienced with other clients before, and he didn't know it. Janneke, he didn't know it because he's in that old story of, I'm sick, I am weak, I can't do this. But the power that was waiting in that dimension for the age of 22 for it to switch on. I went in there and I switched it on. So for him, like you said, your awakening has been a slow burn. Maybe for some it will be, it will be a slow burn. Some people will be more extreme. Some people will, you know, have a m, d, e, or some people will, you know, the pain is power. And so with this young man with the colors on the screen and spirit kept telling me, this boy is a saint, this boy can see, this boy has the power to heal himself and heal others. And he left there, and he sent us an email, which, you know, Kieran forwarded onto me, and he said, I will never, ever forget the session, because I didn't know I had power. I thought I only had pain. And so anybody who was suffering out there, the number of autoimmune disorders I'm seeing at the moment, people don't tell me this stuff my spirit. Surgeons will talk to me and tell me like, this is something we need to address and clear. It has come from the stories of pain in the past, but actually it's all the unraveling that needs to happen in this dimension for you to be able to move through that pain story into your power. So it may be 22 it may be 33 and 22 also a master number, maybe 44 it's generally a lot of those numbers, but for me, I knew there was going to be more things at the age of 41 I'm now 42 as I'm talking to you, but you will get your inkling of when things are happening if you are truly listening to your pain. Because before I had my awakening, there was a lot of pain, just mentally, emotionally, I was feeling very lost. I knew that I was intelligent, I knew that I was educated, but I wasn't feeling fulfilled. It was pain in my own way for me, and through that, I just had to surrender, and that's when everything else started to unfold. So I think it's a really important message for those who are pursuing the spiritual path and wanting awakenings, it will come for you when it's meant for you. You don't need to do anything else, because the most unforced gifts are the most precious gifts that you will ever receive from the cosmic destiny.

Wow, so much wisdom just there, and you just started unpacking a bit some of the soul's journey. And I'd love to dive deeper into that. But before we do for those who are a bit like wondering, okay, so how does she see these things, and how is this working? Could you share a little bit about who are you working with, and what are you actually seeing and how

okay? And I think for those also who are watching and listening, it's like when someone goes to medical school and you start off as a trainee doctor, and you kind of, you know, you've got your basic knowledge. And then as experience comes in with clients, things or patients, things evolve and change. And so for me, when I first started doing this, almost 10 years ago now, when it came to me, and then spirit was sending me a lot of people, the way that I was seeing it was like a movie initially, and then it started to become like, Oh, I'm actually in the scene. Because often when I finish work, Yannick, like, you can ask my assistant, who works in the house with me on the other side, she'll say, she'll be like, Oh, you've come back down to earth. I can, I can see that you're normal now, like, before you started, you were kind of your head was in the clouds. And so now it's a little bit different. So I'm speaking from where I am at. Now in this journey, I literally get pulled up into portals where I am in another dimension, and I'm my whole scene will change. So this is why I always tell my clients my eyesight goes blurry when I work, when actually, Gaia has perfect, perfect vision, because my job is to see in between the physical. So you know, some famous mediums will scribble when they're receiving information. My eyesight goes blurry, and I will go up into the universe and be taken into a scene. So when the timelines merge for me, I always say to my clients, don't ask me about timing, because I'm in 1600s now, 2025, now, and also 3030, right now. And I don't know where I am. So I see it like how we can split screen when I'm talking to you, so we can see each other. It's a bit like that. I'm split screen between Gaia is up here in her the way. She knows herself to look but I'm with a version of you in a different dimension that doesn't look like you, and that version of you is visually telling me what you need to know here and why you are stuck up here with this chapter that hasn't shut yet. And so a perfect example of this is I had a client and I time travel, didn't know anything about this client. I said, you've got a lost son. I said, I'm in, I don't know whatever year I was in. I said, you've got a lost son. So I'm seeing this as a woman and a son that is missing in another timeline. So say, for example, sake, it was 1300s so I'm seeing my client is a 1300s version of her with a lost son. And I said, it's interesting. I said, the son never has a father, and therefore has a lot of resentment towards you because you there's no father present. And so that means that the higher self of that son is giving me this information about how he feels in this present time, so I'm seeing him higher self, another version. I said, a lot of depression around this child and whatever I was going on about. And I said, But it's interesting. I said to the client, I said, in your DNA line, I said, your father has got a child that you don't know about. And now when I say this to people, people can be just so judged. I said, there's another lost child, which means that we need to break the blueprint of these children being lost. Then she tells me the story of why I'm having to clear all this. Her child was born by sperm donor, which the child doesn't know the Father. And she said recently her father had told another sibling when I pass away, please don't look at any of my documentation, just burn it, because there are things in there that I don't want any of the other family to know. And she was saying how they were saying, I wonder whether our father has got a secret child out there. So this is the Lost Child. And then she elaborated, my child is very lost at the moment. So when I'm seeing all this, it's different versions. I'm seeing it as visions. I'm seeing it as what I would say as an experience. I'm also hearing as well. So I'll be hearing not voices for me, I'm I'm sure some people do, but for me, it's like I'm hearing louder voices than my own, which I know are not what I'm thinking. And so therefore I'll know to say what I am perceiving, knowing it's not my ego or my personality, but it's based on the communication that this other version of my clients will be giving me. And also, then there are spirit guides. I know you asked who I work with. I personally this is my personal view. I think that a lot of us have got hung up about who was there, who was talking to me, and I actually just leave it up to them to tell me when they want to tell me so often, I don't know who will be talking to me, but I let the deity or the angel or the God or the being come to me and tell me who they are, when they want me to know. And so it could be anyone from, you know, Yeshua, from Jesus Christ, from mother Mary's energy, to Hindu deities, to people I don't even know, Paul or Venetian came in the other day for somebody, you know, they will tell me when they want me to know. And I think that is also a form of just trusting that even I don't know everything, I'm just being guided to help in the way that I can. So at the moment, that's how it's working for me. And so I just go along with whatever the guides want to unfold and give me, because it's an exciting journey for me too.

Wow. For sure, it must be, I'm just imagining being you, seeing all these things, and then I get curious, curious like, how it is being you in your everyday life, for instance, sitting with me right now, not to put you on the spot, but it might be, you know, good for the audience to have a small demonstration. Can you see anything about me? Can you look through me right now and see my past lives? Or do you need to sort of do some rituals and sort of push the button to do that?

For me, I shut everything down because I don't feel it's my place to be, reading people in a space that's not private. Because the thing is, I bring up, the reason why my services are so popular is because I bring up very, very controversial and things that really push people's buttons. And my guides have said to me, this is a gift to be done in private with somebody, not for everybody to see. But I can give you examples, because, like you, obviously are very enlightened being that is on this journey of bringing people together to share their stories. Because you, like, you know, for me, when I'm speaking in around people, people naturally get a shift anyway, and so that's naturally happening, but you are so connected to the angelic realms that you are able to channel those. Hyper frequency and codes, and that's what people come to your channel for. Is you, Janka, you're just holding space for the rest of us. And so like you know, how does my day to day life look? It can vary. I like to dance between both the worlds, because I think it's very important that as a human, that I'm not sitting on my high horse thinking I know everything and I'm fully healed, and all of those things I've got day to day issues like everybody else. It's this that I have a perspective to be able to understand what it's for. But this was a very interesting experience that I had recently, and how my my day was very altered by this person. I got up that morning and I was crying. I just couldn't stop growing, and I felt immense amount of grief, and I knew it wasn't grief for myself. And so my assistant said to me, it'll be your clients today, go to bed and then just come out when you're ready to see your clients. And so I went to bed and I'm still crying and crying, come online, and my first client, and I see this person in another lifetime standing over the bed at his wife, who had a brain tumor, with two daughters standing there all crying over this, this death, this premature death. And I looked at this person. I said, you know, you've lost a wife, and then you have these two daughters, then that, then get estranged from you. This woman dies of a brain tumor. And he looked at me, he said, That's exactly how my wife died, and yes, I'm carrying a lot of grief still. So for me, why I don't switch it on all the time is because I would be just crying all the time or feeling people's depression, and that is my job at the time that I work. But it's not for me to be doing that or intervening and interfering in other people's people, because not everybody is ready for the information and the healing that comes from the trigger of that information. So day to day, life is I will be a mirror image of the client, sometimes a lot way before I even start the client, and there's a long processing time of releasing the energy after I finish with a client, but it's a very sacred thing that I do with people, because I will say things that can be very kind of jarring to people. And the reason why Spirit will give them that information is because through agitation, there is activation. And so I need to be able to agitate and not just demonstrate for people to feel like, you know, oh, we believe her. There's nothing to prove with this gift your trust will get you to the right person that you are willing to hear your story from, whether that be me or you or whoever. So many healers in the world that do incredible things, but finding the right person that you know you're willing to just hand it over to to agitate you, to bring things out. So my day to day life looks different. Sometimes I can be like that. And just, you know, people around me will say, This is not you go to bed, go and eat something, and then when I'm done clients, I'll be like, Oh, I feel like myself again, because I was that person had so much grief, the Father, the daughter, even the mother that had passed away. It was her soul that was showing me the brain tumor, but just through another dimension. And so, because I was having a horrible headache, so as I spoke to that man, the trigger of release agitated him to activate his power. Because you, when you were asking me, who comes through, like his spirit guides? Oh, just I was mind blown, Buddha came through. I think this is the poor the Venetian came through. And this man said, he said to me, I learned a lot from him, actually. He said to me, I got it all wrong. He said, I've spent the last 71 years getting it all wrong. And he said, Now I know what my life was for. And he said it was through that grief that I've awakened to open up to what is truly important, and I think when people are ready to hear their soul story. But with you, Janneke, you've got this lightness about you, and you have been a Master Healer before, and this is why you have a platform with so many where people want to come through and learn from you and be activated into the programs and courses that you teach, because even your background as a entertainer, as such, people who are in that type of industry, or have been, you have a way to bring people to you. And because of your purity, people will know that you're being very genuine in your connection to spirit and what you're delivering. There's no ego there. And I think that's very, very important with the journey you have going forward. But everyone has a very unique story, Janneke, and they can be very layered and complicated, because it goes through the ancestors and it goes through the future generations.

Yeah, I would love to unpack that a bit, because nowadays a lot of us speak about the multiverse and even Hollywood, and it's just coming more and more, and we hear that, ah, you know, maybe there's another version of me there. And we used to speak about past lives, and now we speak about parallel lives. So could you share your perspective and what you know about. About what a soul is. And I mean, this is a vast question, I know, but we'll give it a go, because I know that you have vast knowledge within it. So I'm curious about the reincarnation cycle. Some call it trap. I don't think it's a trap, but I am curious to what the soul is, and how many fragments a soul is actually dividing itself into that I can connect with as Jannecke, yeah,

I the soul for me, like I always describe it to my clients, that we are this vessel, so our physical body, and inside this vessel, it's like a memory card, and that memory card is made of light, and inside that light there is all the stored information, like how crystals can store information about every incarnation that you've had. And it's funny that you said, you know, some people call it the reincarnation trap. I see it as a reincarnation opportunity, because somewhere in another timeline, because when I first started doing this work, okay, I'm seeing past lives, great, and then when I started time traveling into this different dimensions, oh, I'm seeing parallel lives, it's like they were graduating me up to this level where I could actually experiencing and feel the grief and feel the cancer symptoms in my Body, and feel the trauma. So for me, the soul is light the fragments, I think, based on my understanding now, they will vary depending on how evolved your soul is. So someone could have maybe 1000s of fragments that you can access. But for me, I like accessing things, pieces at a time, because with all of us, we're all going through some sort of ascension every day. It's just some of us are more aware of that ascension, and people are having lots of muscular problems and but like, I've been having this rib thing at the moment, and I know it's because the biblical nature of the creating from the rib, but also it's like, your protection, my guys, protection is beginning to come down because of control and rigidity issues that I've had as part of my personality. So I think with the parallel lives, how many you can access as a time is how much your vessel can handle, because the vessel needs to be able to hold the energy from that lifetime or that parallel universe. And if you're not prepared for it, like, for example, or the people that are suffering from autoimmune because I keep seeing that. So it's a very important message that's coming through, or other diseases or discomfort in the body, it's a preparation to be handled more if you see it and heal it as an opportunity rather than a suffering. So the fragments will vary depending on the soul's contracts that you have. But whenever I work with someone, I will probably maybe see three or four. But the more evolved the being is like, because they've really been on the path, and, you know, through lifetimes before, they've been the same. Like that young boy, he didn't know any of his power, but he didn't realize how pure he actually was, where I could see multiple open at the same time. So everyone is everyone is different, but they are parallel lives. It's no longer past. It's just that the physical body is not there. But it's like you've opened a memoir of your soul and gone to that chapter, and I've gone, okay, Janaka, you are here, and this is what you're telling me, and until you learn that lesson, and until we, you know, rewrite the history of what's happened, it's going to be repeating in certain situations in your lifetime. And like the lady with, you know, missing father for the child and all of that, she didn't want to be on her own, but it was happening because she was hasn't reconciled with the reasons of why this is happening, and that's where we start to delve into but I just think that people who want to know what's going on in other realms, you need to be open yourself and be open to hearing things that you will not expecting to hear and that you're maybe not even wanting to hear because it is confrontational about the shadow sides of you. Because usually when I'm traveling and looking at one soul's blueprint, it's things that people go, Oh my goodness. So we have to get used to. Like, I always tell my clients I'm quite fine being uncomfortable, because I want to grow. And like I said, through pain is power. But yeah, the soul breaks up into different parts. And so therefore when we do reincarnate, one part of you is here, but the other part of you is here. So you can experience both at the same time.

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correct it does. And this is the interesting thing about the work, because I never realized how much impact the other realms were having here on Earth and vice versa. Because I believe we're here to unravel our stories. Because, you know, we all hold on to stories. Like I've got my story about, oh, as a little brown girl, and with a school, you know, at a school where I was the only outsider, I had to unravel all of that and still do in certain ways. And I just feel like, when I do travel, you know, like I saw this client, and she was an amazing healer, and I didn't tell me this. I went up into another realm, and I said to her, you need to be working with instruments. And she's looking at me, and Her background was completely blurred, so I couldn't see anything. And I said, I'm in a lifetime in the Middle East. And I said, You are married three times. And I said, you're carrying Black Widow energy. And I said, with your first husband, you had five children, and I said, But you he wanted you to not have any power, because you had the power to use sound healing to influence your people around you. And I said, Because he put so much pressure on you and wanted to control you, you actually had an extramarital affair. She looked at me, and I said, Do you have like seven children all together, like five with one husband and two with another? She said, I do. And she said, Gaia, nobody knows about that affair till now. No one. And I said, Okay. And I said, was that recent? She said, Yep, just a few months ago. She said, I've been on your wait list for a long time. I said, obviously that was meant to happen first before we came here, because it was happening at the same time in that other dimension as it was happening here on Earth. So that person who was feeling trapped and controlled and not able to share her true gifts with the instruments was was acting out by trying to find her freedom through having an extramarital affair as her out. And so she got out of that relationship, and she said, can I just unbloo my screen? I said, Sure, and she unbloored her screen, and she moved her computer, and on her war were all sound healing instruments that she uses to heal her clients. So if she hadn't have had that affair in this lifetime, the lifetime I was in, in a previous incarnation, and she didn't have it here, even though I'm not saying it was right or it's no criticism or judgment here, it is what her soul needed to do up there to influence that thought process here, to free her, to be able to be the sound healer that she is, and work with her instruments. So it's very much the information that I get, even if people can't handle it at the time, it's what's happening there that is influencing here and vice versa, unraveling that story and clearing the thing, because she doesn't, she doesn't, she didn't realize. She hasn't told anybody, not even the new person that she is with, that a fear occurred, and that's how the marriage broke up, because that was her only way to get out. So yes, it's 100% all influencing us at the same time.

Fascinating. Oh my goodness. I mean, think about all the influence. Then if we're 1000s of parts,

that's right, and people shouldn't get overwhelmed. Like this is the thing. Like when I say this, when I say this to people, like healing can go on forever. It really could, like you could heal our grandmothers and our brothers and our sisters. I just look at it as if you know there is something that is an obstacle for you, and there's no flow in your life, and you are suffering in some way, that is the time to be open to hearing what you need to hear, not what you want to hear from the right practitioner for you. And so when you are ready to hear and understand the truth, because I have to admit. Janneke, you know, when I confront people on certain things, I have to remind them, this is not me. I don't know you. I'm being asked to address this particular issue. And so fertility is a big thing that people see me for. And I recently had this client, and again, I think she was lying in bed when I had her on Zoom. And because I never let my client speak, I said to her, okay, you've taken me to a timeline, and your your uterus is filled with fibroids. And I said, You are telling me I cannot create children, therefore I cannot create a legacy. And I was like, okay. So I said, don't tell me anything yet. And so when I went into this timeline, I was like, remember. Legacy is not always children. Legacy can be what you leave behind as your purpose. And she's kind of looking at me, and I said to her, okay, so how does this relate to you? Because this version of you is telling me this. She said, I can't have children. I've had a hysterectomy because I had fibroids and endometriosis. And I said, Okay, I said they're telling me that you want to start your own business and leave behind what you're doing now? She said 100% I said, well, we need to get over your thought process of the legacy as a child, because for you, it's not going to be that unless you bring in a child in an alternative way. But I'm being told that you don't want to do that. And she said, No, I don't. So her stuckness in her business moving forward, can't get clients not being able to grow her business is because her soul still feels that the legacy for a woman is to give birth and have her own children, when actually, I needed to go into that timeline and clear even though physically no no womb or uterus left there, energetically, it was still there. And she said to me, I thought I got over all of that. I said, well, it wouldn't be coming out of my mouth if you did get over it. I said, mentally, yes, but your body is holding on to it. And then I brought up an autoimmune thing. And she said, I do have autoimmune that is the manifestation of you now needing to break out from the the story of legacy equals children. Legacy for you is now birthing your business into the world. So she knew she had to come and see me at that time. She didn't know quite why, but with that clearing, she'll be able to now move forward knowing that fertility was actually connected to fertility of abundance in her business, which was stuck from movement. So those are the things that people can be aware of. Like, if something is stuck in one area, where could the connection be? It might not even be what you think it is like. She didn't make that connection in her head until spirit had showed me it's connected to this lifetime where you couldn't have children. Everyone's looking you going, Well, what kind of woman can't have children? She's still playing that on some unconscious level that she couldn't birth something else that could be her legacy. So if people are listening and you're like, stuck in one area, really look at the complete opposite area of like, well, what's the connection of that I'm stuck in this relationship or stuck at work, and that's the perfect time to go and seek some help from the right practitioner of can you have a look what's going on for me and just let them tell you what they're experiencing, even if you're going, Oh, I thought I dealt with that. It's the same with me. Annika, sometimes I think I thought I've dealt with that. And here we go. Here's a trigger.

Here's another round. Well, that was very helpful, actually, thank you. And I wanted to ask you about infertility. I've heard you speak about it before, and that you actually are seeing lights or souls that want to come down to their mothers, but their their resistance, because the mother is not ready, or things are not sort of ready. Could you speak a bit to that and why? Perhaps infertility is going down in the world.

My Spirit guides are telling me just to say to everyone listening, don't give up if you are trying to have a child. The one thing that I have learned through this journey with seeing clients that are really wanting to bring in and create children is some people give up too early and they're not willing to go through the whole process of the fertility journey, which can be very, very painful. It's like, how much suffering can one person handle? But through the pain is the power. And so when I am working with someone, spirit will often show me if the client is ready, if there is a child, or how many souls are connected to the mother or father that I'm seeing, generally a mother, and then I will be able to generally see if that child is ready to come. So actually, this is another example that came up the other day, actually, when with a client came online, and I said to her, I'm in a timeline. I said, You are 41 in this timeline. And I said to her, have you got a son yet? And she said, I do not have a son yet. I said, but you've got a daughter, right? She said, I do have a daughter. I said, Well, another one is coming, but his soul is here, wanting me to place it in your womb. So she's like looking at me going, okay, went into this timeline, and her husband was having an affair with another woman at the age of 41 and I said to her, you are very resentful because you had these two children, the Son and the daughter and your husband is off with the maidens, not with the mother, the mother of his children. He was off with this, the maidens. And I was thinking, My language is very interesting, that I'm using the archetypes of maiden mother, Crone, things like that. And so I said to her, you are going to have a son, but I said, you need to get over your. Of your husband, I said, because He has cheated on you in a lifetime before. And I said, this is something that you're going to have to reconcile with. And she said to me, Gaia, I am pregnant now. I am a few weeks pregnant, so I don't know what gender it is. And I said to her, in this lifetime, your son is about five years old. She said, in five years, I will be 41 and they so they're showing me a past projection, but something that may occur at the age of 41 where the husband may stray because of the resentment she's still holding. So we rewrote that whole history, and that is when the sun soul looked at me, saying, she's physically conceived, but I'm still not in the body yet. I'm still not in the body yet. So everyone's conception of the soul comes in at a different time. Some people immediately after the egg and the sperm meet, the soul will come in. Some will come in weeks later, some even months later, because the same thing happens when someone miscarries or has, you know, an unfortunate, still born or something, the physical bit remains, but the soul is like, I'm out of here. I've learned what I've need to learn. So when I see these souls coming in, they're waiting for the parents to sort their stuff out, or the mother or the father. However, people are doing it, because people are doing it in so many different so many different ways. So if people are having fertility issues, don't give up. Because I've seen the most miraculous stories, like people who have said, I've had clients that have had no monthly cycle, clients who have husbands who have been told that they're completely infertile, and I've gone, no, there'll be a there'll be a daughter, and then they'll email a few years later, going, oh my goodness, you are right. I do have this child, but you have to give it the right timing, because we and me too, because I'm a rigid, controlling person in many ways. Now, I want it now, now, now. But spirit doesn't work like that. There is a journey and a karma for that soul, and that poor boy was fearful, are my parents going to break up? Are they stable enough for me to come through so we had to work through this client's resentment so that that baby stays and they can be a complete family in the way that her soul wishes. So everyone has a different story. That's the one that comes to mind to share. But the fertility journey is a challenging one for many, and my heart really goes out to all the women and fathers that are suffering, trying to get a child, but there will be a reason, and it's great to find someone to investigate that reason and clear it from the metaphysical realm. Because, like you mentioned, sometimes I'll look up and I'll see all these souls, and my spirit guides will be like, Yep, no, these are the people coming in the next few months, of people that you're going to need to try and place the soul back in their body or in their family tree. So I do these Monday mantras every week for my clients, where I give them a kind of a practical but spiritual lesson. And recently, my spirit guides have been asking me to talk about the family tree. Now the family tree extending not just to our DNA, but the people that we choose to have in our lives. And what I'm guided to say right now Janneke is sometimes our fertility. I know this sounds terrible, but I do need to say this, our fertility can be correlated to people having envy or jealousy towards us. So if someone looks at you and says, Oh, yannica, you have everything. You're beautiful, you're you're spiritual, you're talented, you're gifted, and say you're trying to have a baby, people's energy coming towards you can be actually an obstacle for you to create more. And I've seen that multiple times, like, I have movie stars that come and they've been like, I'm trying to have a baby, and I'm like, Well, you've got 10 million people sending you this energy going, Oh, she's beautiful, and she's got the hot guy and and that itself can also be an energy that needs to, like, I've come from a culture with the evil eye that needs to get the eye off you so that you can create because gestation happens in private. It happens naturally. It's the cells all coming together. It's not something that it's not like we're watching gestation happen in front of us. It's not like in a cage. It's within us. And so people's energy can also affect us in terms of being spiritually protected. So sometimes, which sounds so bizarre, and it fascinates me, if I'm in a timeline saying, oh, there's someone that was really trying to put, for lack of a better word, a curse or something on you to stop you from creating, we need to go and reverse that so that you can actually be free to do what you want to do. So everyone's different, and it's very fascinating the fertility story, because everyone will have their own thing in the way that needs to be moved out.

That does make a lot of sense. I'm going to make a quantum jump here into quantum jumping. I'd love to hear a little bit about that. I've heard you speak about it. What it is really quantum jumping. And is it possible in 3D

quantum jumping is basically going into different timelines, but then using those abilities that you want to use from there here. So a lot of the work that I do is clearing, but sometimes it's activating, like that young man who's got a very sick, physical vessel, which he's needed to empower so that he can bring in all the energy that of the saint and being able to heal and all those incredible things. So I do believe we can quantum jump. Any of us can like I'm not special. I'm just accepted my mission and just doing what I can to do to help people where I can, but quantum jumping is to be able to go into these timelines and be able to bring that down to earth. So often, when I'm rewriting stories, I'll say to a client, okay, this is what's happened here, and the reality of it is, in that lifetime, you passed away in this way, or you didn't get what you wanted, I'm going to rewrite that. So I'll literally go in there, and I'll be speaking to that version of the client going, Okay, we want to take the power from this, this quantum jump, and bring it into the vessel of the current person in the 3d here. And so it's just having the awareness that you've got power somewhere else, and bringing heaven as above so below. And I feel that we all can do that, or you find the right practitioner to help you do that that's going to have your best interests at heart. So quantum jumping is very, very fascinating, because we've got power in various dimension too, not just pain that's waiting to be cleared. It's like, like with me, I always tell people, you know, sure, I came into this at 33 and you know, I have many clients that seek me out. But it wasn't just this lifetime that I've done this. It's many lifetimes that I have done this which has enabled me to come into this vessel faster and know my purpose earlier than a lot of people. Because it was like, you know, I quantum jump to be able to bring that information down, and it was with a friend, my Maori, healer friend, who helped me be able to see that at that time, 10 years ago. And so people will find the right person to help them quantum jump and bring it, bring it here to Earth.

And speaking of timelines, I'm curious whether you have received guidance or knowledge about the timelines we're seeing now. For humanity, most of my guests, or all my guests, are saying we're in a big shift of consciousness, and that most likely, it's going to be a bit of chaos for the years to come, and then we're moving into a high reality. So what are your perspectives on that?

I feel like you, all the people, all of those who are sharing that message, in my opinion, and also in my spiritual opinion, are 100% right. But I also feel like we don't have to be a part of the chaos. We can observe the chaos, because as we change our realities and unravel our stories. That is what is going to move us to those higher realms and higher realities. Because I've been told also by my Spirit Guides a couple of years ago that we will go through this big, you know, chaotic time, and then there's this period of perfection, like and, you know, we can't even imagine what that would look like, because of how the world is and how we feel inside ourselves. But I feel like more and more people, like I said in the beginning, are going through these awakenings. Their bodies are uncomfortable. They're they're starting to have growing pains that are making them look at the chaos inside of themselves. And so it starts there. It's like the more that you can calm your chaos within, the more that you'll realize, like, oh, I can just observe. And I'm not saying this in a detached way, like it's not like we're not meant to, you know, do anything about it or help it's not disregarding it, but I'm just saying what we can do within ourselves to make that transition quicker and easier and smoother with these timelines merging. And this is why, when people come to see me, there's like, accelerated healing. It's not just dancing around in past lives. It's like, right, this is happening there. We've got to clear this chaos so that you can be at peace, that you can move forward, because everyone you touch you will be reverberating that high frequency to to everybody. And I just feel like also what I'm guided to tell you now, or say it just to remind people, a lot of the ancient sites are activating with a lot of codes at the moment, and so these codes are coming into our body, and this is why I've got rib pain and all kinds of muscular pain. Lots of people are having these growing pains because these timelines are merging of the ancient past, where people had that wisdom and the sight foresight of how to work with nature and how to work with their natural flow of life, and that, I feel, is what will eventually happen, like this big wave comes like a tsunami. You know, tsunami can look very elegant as it's coming in from. Of you know, where it's coming from, and then when it comes to the shore, it just breaks. People are getting to that breaking point, which is why there are higher levels of mental health and all kinds of things going on. But once that starts to balance, people will be able to see what life is about, just like that more mature client I had that lost the wife. He's like, I got it all wrong, Gaia, you know? And I knew I'll never forget those words, because what he meant was, I was seeing everything through the eyes of the ego. Now I'm seeing everything through the eyes of the soul, and that time will come for all of us. We're just all a little bit at different rates at the moment, um, getting to that point.

And what do you mean by the timelines are merging? What do you mean by that?

Okay, so we because the way we are as humans, it's like we had a past, we have a present, we have a future, and I'm the same like everybody else, sometimes we get stuck in the past, of like, oh, it could have been this way, or why did that happen to me? And then we get caught in the future of like, Oh, what if that doesn't happen? And what you know, when is this going to happen? And then with that on this human reality, there is the timelines that are in the other dimensions of the soul, experiences that you've had. And then we've got the Ancient Ones, the indigenous people who are, you know, indigenous people just really are so connected to their environment. And like, you know, the Maori people here in New Zealand, I went to Uluru airs rock in Australia relatively recently, and just feeling the Aboriginal energy there. Amazing, that type of wisdom is coming in. So it's like when timelines merge, it's like, what I'm seeing, what's happening up there, is happening here, but if that doesn't clear here, it's going to happen in the future, and it's also happening in the past. Everything is coming together to be dealt with now before we can move forward, because it makes it come to the present, rather than leaving in things in the past, or thinking too much about the future, or having my head too much up in the clouds too, I always try to come back down. That's why I said to you, I switch off and just do my normal things, because I want to just experience the natural flow of my life as well. So when timelines merge, it's like what I see to you that I say to my clients, I don't know whether it's 1100s right now, 2025, 3030, or 500 BC, because it all is the same, because we keep repeating things until we learn. So that's why the when the timelines merge, it's like a collapsing of old structures, a collapsing of old stories, and that accelerated time is now, and so I don't see it as chaos, because I don't like to, I don't know, I don't get sucked into all of that. I just see it as an opportunity for us to be reborn again in some way, and reinvent ourselves, to blossom with every rose petal that is available to us and know that each petal makes up the whole whether it's the difficult things or the things that are bring us the most joy everything's working together, the timelines merging is the synchronicity and the connections with everything

beautiful. What is the one teaching you would like to leave our audience with today

that they are so much more than they know we all are, and that they are worthy of being able to shift their old paradigms and old stories, that they are here to unravel the past pain, To be able to liberate themselves for the future, and that we all have this opportunity at any age. It's not for young people. It's not for middle aged people. Like I love it when I see clients who are in their 80s that are still seeking like, who am I? How can I still find my purpose? Your purpose will come to you if you are open to receiving that from the heavens and not forcing the gift to come. And everyone is gifted. Everyone has something that is waiting for their calling. It's just about living your life in alignment with yourself, always being very self aware about what your needs are, and enabling yourself to be in a state of fulfillment with even the most simplest things. I think a lot of people strive for happiness. And, you know, and I, I used to be like that, what makes me happy? And then I thought, you know, happiness is great, but then I would notice, if I was happy, the fall down to unhappiness was quite a rapid decline and quite a low low. And then as I matured, and I'm sure this may change, my response may change to you, in future, I just look for fulfillment, fulfillment and what I eat, fulfillment with the clients that I help fulfillment with, how I decide to look after myself, and I feel like that's all what we need. Now is informed of our teaching is that when you feel worthy, you will feel fulfilled.

And speaking of feeling worthy, I ask this to all my guests. What is self love to you?

Self love to me is being able to know what you need and want at all times. And I know that's hard, because even for me, sometimes I don't realize what I want to need until I'm upset about it or I am feeling resentful about it. And I think self love is I think we all live in this world where it's about other people. We either get really over give or we're comparing. It's about what you want and need and fulfilling that for you. So even in expressing that like sometimes, as simple as, can I have a hug I really need that right now? Or can I just need a moment to serve myself, because I'm a mother of seven, and I've been serving too much, knowing what you need at that time is the acknowledgement that your soul needs to know that you do love yourself and that you do feel worthy,

beautiful and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective.

I feel right now in the stage of life that I am and what I've learned through my spirit guides. And the work that I do, I feel the deeper meaning of life, is to unravel old stories, because we all come into this lifetime accumulating pain that may not even belong to us. It could belong to a grandparent or whatever. I think that's part of it is unraveling that, but then harnessing that as your power to freedom. Because I feel the deeper meaning of life is we often can feel controlled or stuck, and that was when I was experiencing the pain before my awakening. It's like, Oh, I feel so stuck. What am I meant to be doing? How? You know, I was feeling very trapped, but it's because I was in so much unworthiness pain, but actually the universe had way better things waiting for me than I could have ever imagined, and that's for everybody. So I feel the deeper meaning of life is to know what you are here for and work on that, but also unraveling your old stories and creating new ones for yourself future generations and everybody around you, like when my assistant joined, she said to me, we become the people that we're hanging out with all the time. I said, Of course we do. And so it's like, if you don't like yourself, you're going to attract these reflections of pain and people that are not nice to you, or people that will shine that light on you, and it's acknowledging that and unraveling that. So for me at this stage, that is the deeper meaning of my life and where I am at for my own personal journey in moving forward.

Thank you so much. Gaia, this was highly interesting. And if people are like, I want a session with her. I want to work with her. How can they do so,

okay, I have a website, and it's soul33, the numbers, .com but the best way, you know, I always remind people I am one person. I'm doing my best to see as many people as I can. But I do have an app, and I support hours and years into that app to be able to create resources where people have their lesson and they receive homework, and there's a group chat to form a community, and that is a really great place to start. So you can go to your app store and just search Soul33 but also you can look on the website for various resources.

Wonderful. Thank you so much for spending the morning with me in New Zealand Wow,

was such a pleasure to be with such an enlightened soul like yourself.

Oh, thank you, and thank you for sharing your wisdom today.

You're very welcome.