What happens when a former aerospace engineer begins exploring consciousness beyond the limits of the physical body? In this fascinating episode, Andre Miller, also known as “The Alchemist,” discusses his extraordinary journey from the scientific world of engineering to full-time out-of-body exploration. What makes this conversation especially intriguing is Andre’s unique blend of analytical thinking and spiritual experience. Rather than approaching these subjects through belief alone, he describes how his personal experiences — combined with what he sees as scientific support — led him to a completely new understanding of life, death, and reality.
The Gateway Tapes, Sleep Paralysis, and Consciousness
One of the most captivating parts of the episode is Andre’s explanation of how his journey began during the Covid period, when he became deeply focused on manifestation, meditation, and changing his inner world. This eventually led him to the Gateway Tapes, a meditation method developed by Robert Monroe, and later to spontaneous out-of-body experiences.
Andre also offers a thought-provoking perspective on sleep paralysis. While many people fear it and associate it with dark or demonic experiences, he describes it as a natural state between waking and sleeping — and even as a doorway into expanded consciousness. For anyone who has experienced sleep paralysis or wondered about astral projection, this part of the interview is especially compelling.
Exploring Realms Beyond the Physical
The conversation goes even deeper as Andre shares his views on different realms of existence, higher frequencies, heavenly dimensions, and the idea that consciousness continues beyond death. He describes encounters with what he believes are other planes of reality, as well as a deeper remembrance of the soul’s eternal nature.
What stands out most is his message that we are far more than our physical identity. According to Andre, human life is just one level of a much greater reality, and out-of-body experiences can help people remember who they truly are.
A Powerful Message About Life and Death
At the heart of this episode is an uplifting and comforting message: consciousness is eternal, our loved ones continue beyond physical death, and we each hold far more power than we realize.
Transcript of the interview
Andre Miller 0:00
The CIA actually did a study on this, saying that it is legitimate that consciousness can separate from the body. And, you know, being an engineer, that was very important for me, because I needed some validation to this, because oftentimes in the spiritual community, it's all faith based things, like you just have to trust something. But this was something that I was actually able to do an experience for myself, and there was actually science back in it. Oftentimes in sleep paralysis, you hear stories of people saying, Oh, I seen it's a demon sitting on my chest, or I've seen demonic beings in the room. Well, that's not really true. Sleep paralysis is a natural occurring thing. We all experience this every night. You're just aware of it right now, when you're in sleep paralysis, you can you do have the ability to see beings in the room, because at that point your physical bodies shut down, and this is the threshold where your soul starts to come online. Now, why you may see a dark figure is because your soul's frequency isn't risen high enough to see that side of the light spectrum. Yet you're starting to see these things. That's why they may appear dark realm. One is just considered Earth. But there are more land masses here than what we are told. They keep this land hidden from us beyond Antarctica. And I've actually experienced other lifetimes of mine there, in a place called neo soul. Now there is a city, and these humans there would actually be considered extraterrestrial to us, and I was one of them before I was here.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:23
Do you think this will also come forward in the year of Revelation? I feel like so much is coming forward now,.
Andre Miller 1:29
100% 100% disclosure is happening.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:39
Hey, I know it can get annoying when YouTubers ask you to subscribe, but if you do subscribe, you are supporting the channel, and you are getting notifications of new videos, and it only takes a couple of seconds. Thank you so much. Andre Miller, a warm welcome to the Wisdom From North show. How are you doing?
Andre Miller 1:59
I'm great. I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.
Jannecke Øinæs 2:04
I'm really excited to be speaking with you today. You are known as the alchemist, and you are a former aerospace engineer who transitioned into full time out of body exploration, seeking the divine truth of it all. And I guess my first question to you is, did you find the ultimate truth that you were looking for?
Andre Miller 2:27
Well, that is a great question. Now, the ultimate truth now, our journeys are never ending. You know, that's very important to find. But did I find the truth that our souls are eternal and that I am the infinite. Yes, I did. I found that, and I found a lot more. And I've also gained, you know, enough knowledge within me to know that the more I know, I know I know nothing compared to the vast majority of the information that's out there. For sure,
Jannecke Øinæs 3:01
I am on the same opinion. That's what I've arrived at as well. Now, how did you get into these out of body experiences? And from what I know, it started during covid,
Andre Miller 3:14
yeah, yeah. So during covid, around the covid time, you know, I was really trying to change my life. I was really trying to change my life, and by doing so, I started off by realizing that my thoughts create my reality, and my current reality is a direct reflection of my past thoughts and actions. So as I started to rewire, my thinking is only thinking positive thoughts and seeing how my actions took part in every situation that is in my life, good or bad, you see. And it was that realization and that changing of my thinking that made me understand okay, these things. And I seen a direct reflection and change into my life. My life started getting better and better gradually, and then I started getting into manifestation, and I was dead set on becoming an engineer, and I was actually able to manifest my project, aerospace engineering job in six months from the time that I set my attention to to the time I actually became it. And it's really important to note that when I first got this job, I was told, okay, after I graduate college I can become an engineer. Well, that was four years away at this time, and I said, No, I'm not going to settle for that. I want the promotion to an aerospace project engineer now. So that's when I really fine tune. My manifestation, my meditation. I really stepped into myself. And then six months later, I was promoted to aerospace project engineer. And also around this time I was I was dabbling into the gateway tapes, and they were very powerful for me, because I found out that you were actually able to sync up our left and right hemispheres of our brain, and that improves cognitive cognitive function so much. And in doing so, I was able to enter like a deep. Meditative state rather quickly, and I was actually able to say to change my reality almost instantly, I would I remember sitting at my desk, and we had a room that was off limits due to proprietary information, so nobody was allowed in there, unless you worked in there. And I remember sitting at my desk doing a meditation technique and saying, I want to see what's in this room. About 30 minutes later, I was assigned a task to go into this, this, this secret room. So things like that were happening quite often, and then this led me down to the path of eventually finding astral projection. And at the time, I knew very little on the subject, right? I just knew I wanted to see how far I could take my consciousness. So I was trying to do Vea, the gateway tapes and, you know, guided meditations. And none of that really worked for me. But what did work was my own technique, because my consciousness was so strong and developed at this time. You know, I was doing such powerful meditations that out. I remember sitting in my room one day saying, okay, astral projection. Well, what does this sound like? This sounds like projecting my consciousness outside of my body. So I would sit and focus for like five or 10 minutes on absolutely nothing, besides projecting my consciousness out, and then in like five or 10 minutes, I would feel the sensation of my soul being sucked out of my physical body. And immediately this scared me, you know, it feels like, oh, you know, because you don't know where you're going. You don't know what's going on, you know. And simultaneously to this, I was also having sleep paralysis every night, because around this time my mom had passed away, and she was sending me messages from the other side telling me she's okay. I just felt this over sensation of joy. And she was also sending me messages such as, hey, you're on the right path. Keep going. You don't have to die to figure out where I am. You don't have to die to figure out where we go when we die, things of that nature. And at the same time, I was experiencing sleep paralysis quite often. I was experiencing it maybe like three or four times a night, or three or four times a week. For months, this was going on and I never correlated leaving my body and sleep paralysis is the same thing. And then this is when I found Darius J Wright online, and he was talking about how sleep paralysis is the gateway to the other side. And he's been actually doing this for for a while. So I actually learned under him for a little bit, and that's where I was really able to fine tune these skills and really, truly start being able to navigate these other realms myself, and you know, I've just been doing it ever since.
Jannecke Øinæs 7:47
Fascinating for those who are new to the Gateway tapes and sleep paralysis, could you just explain what they are?
Andre Miller 7:56
Yeah, certainly. So the gateway tapes is, is a meditation technique founded by Robert Monroe, and he was working with scientists and things of that nature to understand consciousness. And what they were able to find out is that when you are able to there's something called binaural beats, when your right ear and your left ear here slightly different frequencies, that creates a binaural beat in your brain, and it actually connects your left and right hemisphere, because naturally, our left and right hemispheres are slightly out of sync, and this, this makes us rely more on our physical senses, you see, but once the left and right hemispheres are synced and operating together, you're able to really use your brain and your thinking power that much more cohesively. And in these meditations that he leads, he actually leads people to, like focus 10, where your mind's mind's awake, but your body's asleep. This is also the gateway to the other side and to these higher, higher states. And then focus 12 is where you transcend time, you know, and things of that nature. So they're pretty, pretty useful tools, for sure. And the CIA actually did a study on this, saying that it is legitimate that, you know, consciousness can separate from the body. And, you know, being an engineer, that was very important for me, because I needed some validation to this. Because oftentimes in the spiritual community, it's all things that people are just meditating or hearing, and it's all like faith, faith based things, like you just have to trust something. But this was something that I was actually able to do and experience for myself, and there was actually science backing it up. So that was kind of the doorway for me into this space, you know, and for to answer you the second part of your question about sleep paralysis. Now, what sleep paralysis is, it's a natural state that we all enter every night. Now this is when we are typically in REM sleep, when your physical body is completely shut down, that that's sleep paralysis. And what this. Feels like it's actually a scary sensation when you experience this. Because what this feels like, it's like, if you wake up in sleep paralysis in the middle of the night, you can't move. You're going to freak out. Thoughts are going to come into your head, Am I dead? Why can't I move? And also, in sleep paralysis, it's very important for people to understand when they oftentimes in sleep paralysis. You hear stories of people saying, Oh, I seen it's a demon sitting on my chest, or I've seen demonic beings in the room. Well, that's not really true. Sleep paralysis is a natural occurring thing. We all experience this every night. You're just aware of it right now. So that that that takes away the the idea that it's a demon sitting on your chest right now, the other aspect of it is, when you're in sleep paralysis, you can, you do have the ability to see beings in the room, because at that point, your physical bodies shut down, and this is the threshold where your soul starts to come online, where you're actually, like, crossing over to the other side. Now, why you may see a dark figure or a shadowy figure is because your soul's frequency isn't risen high enough to see that side of the light spectrum, yet you're starting to see these things. That's why they may appear dark you see. But as you as you go past this threshold, and your soul's frequency begins to rise to the other side of the light spectrum, these beings that you see will actually appear physical, and you'll be surprised to find out that actually these beings are your friends from the other side waiting for you to come out. Yeah, oh, really.
Jannecke Øinæs 11:30
Oh my gosh. I have so many questions, because I've had some of these experiences myself, the sleep paralysis. It started with that, and then I think it was an out of body experience. But then I listened to you, and I heard that you distinguish between astral projection and a full out of body experience, so I'm curious, what is the difference between that?
Andre Miller 11:52
Okay, yeah, and this is a good point, because when I first got into this space, you know, I was told what I was doing was just astral projection and it wasn't a full blown out of body experience. Well, I don't want to say that to anybody, because anytime your consciousness is outside of your body, it is essentially an out of body experience. But the only difference between a astral projection and a full blown out of body experience is your consciousness, your level of awareness. You see, because when I'm in astral in an astral projection state, I'm mostly just moving mentally with my mind, like I'm thinking I want to go somewhere, and I'm traveling, and I wasn't really aware that I had a physical body. Now, when you bring your fully can't when you bring your full consciousness there, fully there and present, you will feel a power up, and it will be you will realize that your soul is physical. You can when you're fully there in a full blown out of body experience, your your soul hands are physical. You have a physical vessel. Things are more real when you touch something, you're actually able to touch it. For the first time ever in your human life, you're actually able to touch something. Because right now, every time we touch something, the electrons and the atoms in our hands, in our bodies, actually repel the substance that we're touching. So we actually never even physically touch anything here. So when you're in your soul, you're actually able to physically touch something. And that's why we say it feels more real than here, because you're actually touching and you're you're interfacing with the entire chemical makeup of this substance and the whole energy. It's absolutely amazing. So another difference between astral projection and out of body state is your soul's frequency, because everything is relative to the frequency of the observer. You see, this whole construct is based on, is a light matrix. You could say it's all based on frequency, energy and vibration. And right now, in these physical bodies we only have access to so so much of the visible light spectrum, and the light spectrum doesn't just stop there. Light is also physical, you see. So like, there's photons. And everything light, photons is light, right? And now everything has photons in it, then that also means that light is physical. So when you have more access to the light spectrum, this is when physicality becomes more present. This is when colors become brighter. This is why a lot, oftentimes near death experience or say, Oh, I seen colors that I couldn't even speak on or I've never seen them before. It's because you have more access to the light spectrum. So the difference between astral projection and a full blown out of body is, in a full blown out of body, you kind of have more access to raise your soul's frequency through your intention, through your intention and your emotions, you see. So like as you were able to raise your internal frequency, you're actually able to access these higher realms and things of that nature, and access more light, more physicality, some of the greater realms within this creation.
Jannecke Øinæs 14:52
Well, then I think I did have a full blown out of body experience, because I recognize everything you're saying. I haven't had. Had many as you've had, but I definitely felt I was outside my body, watching my body, in my bed, and everything felt so concrete. That's why I didn't understand. Why can I walk through the wall like it's such a solid wall, but I could walk through it, and the flowers were just smelling so incredible. The colors were so bright, but this was many, many years ago, and but what I did remember was that my body felt blue, and I could stretch my fingers and they got long, and then I'm curious, how did you experience yourself? Because you're saying that, then we are in our soul. So how does the soul look like? Well, mine was blue, but is that just another body, like the astral body, or something else?
Andre Miller 15:49
Yeah. So, so when I say that's amazing, too, your experience is amazing. And that's why these conversations are so powerful, because so many people have these experiences, but they can't put a name to them, or they don't know what it is, or what you can fully do in in these experiences, or what this is you see. So like, this is great, but that's a beautiful experience. So now, oftentimes what I have came to realize is, when I'm leaving my body, everything is really frequency based. So when I leave my body, more often than not, my body, my soul, actually mirrors this physical body. It holds the blueprint of this physical body, because this is like where we are now, right? So as I come out, I actually look like me now. I have also seen myself in other forms. Now, when I was leaving my body, sometimes I'd be in sleep paralysis, and I'd just be waving my soul hand, seeing if, like, I'm ready to fully exit. And while I'm waving my soul hand, I'll see it actually appears invisible. Now this is why people see ghosts, you know, or come up with a theory of ghosts. Is because so when I see my hand is see through, I'm able to know, okay, my soul's frequency is not fully risen, yet it's not fully converted to the frequency of the other side. So I'm like in the in between state where I am able to see more of the light spectrum. Hence is why I'm seeing my soul hand moving, but I'm not fully there. So where it becomes physical. Now, in your in your case where you said that your body was blue, that's because your vibration was so high, you see your vibration was so high, you then embody a blue light like vessel. Now, if you you also, you also have the ability to look and assume that your your body will be just like you are. That's one way. That's one reason that you could have experienced your body being blue. Another thing could have been you may have been in another body of a past life of yours where you actually were a blue being. Now, another thing is, I would have to ask you, where were you in this were you in like a different space, or were you in
Jannecke Øinæs 18:01
your room when I was out of my body? Yeah, yeah. I was in my room, and then I flew through the window and up to the sky to find God. That's what I was looking for.
Andre Miller 18:13
Okay, yeah, because there's planes of existence that exist outside of this universe. And when you're in these planes of existence. This is when, you know, we oftentimes will see light bodies and things like that. But everything within this universe or this construct is is pretty physical, but there are planes of existence outside of here, which is probably where you went if you were seeking to find God, you're probably in a higher plane of existence that's outside of all creations, and that's why you were emitting a blue light body.
Jannecke Øinæs 18:44
Yeah, interesting. And I'm really curious to hear more about the realms, because something just fell into place for me when you were saying in another episode, I heard that realm two, that's where the Galactics are so different beings are resonating with different realms, and you can go to them. So I'd love for you if you couldn't explain the realms you've been to. And from what I understand, realm one is Earth, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Andre Miller 19:15
So I have, I've had, had interactions with the other realms. And you know, the first time I heard this, Darius actually did a good job classifying all of the realms and distinguishing that Earth would be realm one and things of that nature. But we do live in a creation right now, outside of my body, I was shown the first time I had a big experience, and I left the framework of Earth outside of my body. I commanded to actually see myself coming back to my body, and this is my first interaction with this construct or this creation that we are in, right? So as I'm coming back to my body, I'm real big, and it was as if I was being shrunk down really small, right? And as I'm being shrunk down simultaneously, I'm seeing the realms. Passed before my eyes, and I'm my soul's memories instantly coming back. Like, oh yeah, I remember this realm. I remember this I remember this realm, right? And I also had the realization that, oh yeah, realm one is made in the image of realm two. Realm two is made in the image of realm three, realm four is made in the image of realm five. And I also understood that all of these realms were in the same space, just separated by frequency. This is why everybody says, you know, everything is happening right now. The other side is here right now. It truly is. It's just separated by frequency. It's just outside of our visible perception. Now, when I came back to Earth, when I came back to Earth, and before I came back to Earth, Earth was presented to me as this one little bubble inside of this creation. And when I tell you, it was a little bubble, it truly was. And I just felt so confined and so small, because in so form, you truly feel like a god, right? And when I was coming back to Earth, it felt so small and so confined. And this is when I had the realization that, you know, everything here, all the knowledge that everybody has here is, oh, sorry, there was a bug. All the knowledge that everybody has here is, is not true knowledge. Humans are very limited to the access of information that they have. Now, there are channelers, people that can channel other informations from the other realms and things like that. But for everybody that's here in this creation, the access is kind of limited here. So I had another realization that, you know, all the science path that I was on, seeking knowledge here on Earth was irrelevant, because it was a limitation to that. And it's not the whole truth that was a big download I had. But to really answer your question about the realms now, the first time that I have seen the galactic realm, it was actually accessing my soul records. So I was accessing my soul records, and in doing so, it brought me to the galactic realm where I was actually an Arcturian, that's the label that humans put on this this species, and I was actually an octorian, and I had a blue, blue body, a blue vessel, and I was actually seeing scenes of this lifetime playing out now realm so realm Two is where a lot of these ETS come from. You see now
Jannecke Øinæs 22:25
they could you share at least, yeah, share a little bit about how they existing, because we know how it works on this planet, but I can't imagine how they're living their lives in that realm.
Andre Miller 22:37
Yeah, so it's actually pretty similar to here. The primary differences is they so realm two is theoretically made before realm one, right? Theoretically, but honestly, everything's happening all at once. It's a kind of a paradox, but there is a sequence of events on the other side. So the primary difference is they are actually able to live longer, you see, so they even have technology to extend their lives. Are able to live longer, but every they still come into in forgetfulness, you see, so they don't come in with their full memories intact, but they're able to advance faster because they are able to live longer, right? So if you're able to live 1000 years, imagine the amount of information that you can gain in 1000 human years, and then, and then we're passing this information on to our kids. So it's just a continuing loop of growth. You see now. And there, there are, when I say, they come into in forgetfulness, they do, but there are ETS there that are in the know and that do know more, but it's kind of similar to here, where there's people in forgetfulness as well that don't really care, but then there's also people that that know and what's going on. And those are the ones that that a lot of us are channeling. Those are the ones that are in the Galactic Federation and things like that. And life there is, it's, it's, it's. So I can only speak from my my direct experience. I don't know how the whole realm works, but for sure, I can tell you that the Arcturians are highly smart, like we had equations to map out future time events, like, literally variables. So it will be as if this event happened, and this event happened, then this would happen. And we were able to, like, map out our our futures this way, or future events this way, you see. And we really took a technological route to these things, like a mathematical mind, a scientific mind to explain the universe where, you know, humans now, we're just kind of, we're kind of just tapping into our souls and going the natural route. But they, they, there's crazy advanced I do remember that. I. Had a major download. That's why I think, the way I think, is from that lifetime, that life experience. So this experience, when I was in this body, I was just shown primarily how our thinking works, and how smart we were, and how smart I was in this lifetime and that kind of transition to here, to help me understand who I am now, and like, why I'm able to think the way I am, and why I'm able to have these revelations and able to explain things this way. It's because of that life. So my, my, my one experience there was was was really more so just that it was a it was a more of a reflection of myself, but I can tell you for sure that they are very, very, very, very advanced,
Jannecke Øinæs 25:47
for sure. So is it fair to say that realm one has a then lower frequency than realm two, and is it only earth that is in realm one, or is it other planets that we don't know about that has the same frequency and sort of the same sameness as humans.
Andre Miller 26:05
Okay, so this is, this is where I sometimes may lose people, but realm one is just considered Earth, right? So, but there are more land masses here than what we are told. Okay, you see, they keep this, these lands hidden from us. You know, there are, there are more land masses here, beyond Antarctica. You know, this is why the Antarctic Treaty is a thing. Nobody can publicly go there. It's the one land and all of all of earth that every country agrees. Okay, we're not going to fight over this country. It's because it's a barrier, you see. But there are other land masses there, and I've actually experienced other lifetimes of mine there, in a place called neo soul now, there is a city that is not known to humans here, where other humans are, and it's within the same realm here. It's just beyond Antarctica, and these humans there would actually be considered extraterrestrial to us, like if we found out that there was humans over there, we would, we would view them as extraterrestrials. You know, when people say that there's human looking ETS, well, there are. And I was one of them before I was here. And, you know, and in neo soul, everything is crazy advanced over there, because they're outside of the resets. Like, if you've heard of the great flood, or the mud floods, or anything of that nature, those things are true. Humanity here has been reset repeatedly, actually, but out there, they're outside of the resets. So, like, they're very, very, very advanced there as well. It's like, imagine if humans were able to develop another two to 300 years and that's like what Neo so was like when I was there. So to wrap this all up, to answer your question, realm one is a flat plane of existence with firmament above it, and in here, the land masses here are actually bigger. It's more land within this realm than we are told. There is a map of this place on the moon, if anybody has ever gone down you know, this rabbit hole, there is a map of this place on the moon as well. And that's a real good representation of of where we are, yeah. But can we go there?
Jannecke Øinæs 28:23
Can we go there and to these other lands and meet a neo soul, or is that again on another frequency, like, why can't we discover it?
Andre Miller 28:34
Yeah, so it has been discovered, and we have known, like William bird has, has adventured down there he was, he was a military guy who was tasked with exploring the north and south pole. And when he went to the South Pole, he discovered that there was other land masses there. And actually the humans from neoso came from here. So there is a way to get there from here. However, we're not able to see because, you know, the powers that be Don't, don't allow us to go there the Antarctic Treaty. If you were in a private plane and you were flying south to Antarctica, you would actually get shot down after a certain point if you did not stop and turn around. There's no live streaming allowed in Antarctica either. It's it's a very controlled place. People can go there on tours and stuff like that. But when you go there, you're actually only taken to a small part of it. And I know this may be hard for a lot of people to grasp and understand, but this is coming from a former aerospace engineer, you see, that's saying all of these things. So it is completely, you know, true and real. And the government has known about this. There's been operation high jump, where, where the government tried to actually go, go to Antarctica. And then they were fought. They were met by other forces, and had to retreat, you know, Operation fishbowl, where they were doing nukes, trying to blow up the firmament and things like that. Yeah, this is, this is it is known.
Jannecke Øinæs 29:57
Do you think this will also come forward? And the year of Revelation, I feel like some so much is coming forward. Now 100%
Andre Miller 30:06
100% disclosure is happening. You know, we see this with the Epstein files. Now we know 100% that things like Adrenochrome is real. All these things that I was speaking about before are actually true and real. Things that I've seen out of my body taking place, I've came and, you know, I publicly stated in another interview that, you know, andrena Chrome was real and and now we know this is true. What is that? What is that? Oh, andrena Chrome is when they're, this is sensitive. But when they they essentially child sacrificing and for reasons for energy and things like that. Yeah, you know. So with the Epstein files coming out, we're able to see that that is very true, and where we're headed is more and more disclosure coming, like I just seen, Trump is going to announce release the all the files that we have on UAPs and extraterrestrials and things of that nature. So yes, we certainly are headed for the down this path, for this disclosure to happen. Yes, yeah, hopefully.
Jannecke Øinæs 31:16
Let's learn more about the nature of reality, since you have discovered so much. So there are other realms beyond that as well, angelic realms. And what about what we refer to as heaven?
Andre Miller 31:29
Yeah, yeah. So, all right, so Heaven is actually a real place. Now, oftentimes, a lot of stories here that people talk about, about the other side, in the afterlife, they're wrong, but one thing that is right is heaven. Heaven is a real place, and it's, it's like the heavenly template. Now, the first time I went there, my mom took me. My mom passed away, and she met me, and she says, Andre I'm okay. Look at what I'm look at what I'm doing, you know. So she took me to heaven, and the feeling there was so so magnificent. And it really was. It really looks just like, you know, what pictures of heaven, what they depict like that, that portion of the Bible is very true. It's so pleasant. It's so beautiful. And our thoughts are actually able to manifest quite instantly there. You know, even outside of your body, here in this realm, your thoughts are able to manifest I've done. I have several examples of that. But in heaven, your thoughts manifest instantly as well, and you're able to play out all of your desires and you have no limitations, such as there is no death there. You're not sick, you can eat, but you don't have to. And people walk around in the Perfected versions of themselves. The first time I've heard of this was Sylvia brown saying that the average age template of Heaven was age 30. That was the first time I've heard of that. And it is true, because and it's not so much like age 30, like, oftentimes when people think back, oh, I don't want to look like how I look like when I'm 30. Well, it's, it's, it's that. It's really the Perfected version of themselves, how they want to present themselves. And you know, when you're in a realm outside of death and outside of birth, kids and old people don't exist, right? So most people, so our natural template is the adult template that is our just the natural template. So most people want to present themselves as young, healthy, you know, the best version of themselves. You know, that's truly who you are, outside of all of these physical limitations that occur here on Earth and all these, you know, downplaying So, but that that is 100% true. And it is. It is very beautiful there. And the vibration, now, when I say it's a higher vibration, it is. The feeling is so amazing, like, I can't even put it into words. Now, the first time I've left the framework of Earth and I just went to neo soul, the vibration there was so much higher, and I truly felt like I understand why people say that we are Gods, because that's how you feel. You can do anything, but the heavenly realm takes it a step further, and it's just complete bliss, complete happiness, complete joy. We truly don't even have the words to describe this feeling, you know, and this is why I'm out doing these things, because, you know, I've never met one person that says, Oh, I love being a human, you know. Well, you actually don't have to die to experience heaven. You can actually leave your body, and you can go to this place and verify everything that I'm telling you is true, you know. So, yeah,
Jannecke Øinæs 34:50
what I don't understand is that when we go to the other side or out of our bodies, or when we pass Who are you then? Because what about all the other laws? Lives all about the about all the other characters that you played or are playing, if everything is happening now. So did you experience yourself as Andre or just your soul?
Andre Miller 35:14
Yeah. So this is a great question. So immediately, when you pass away, your thoughts are going to go with you anytime you leave your body. You die, you have a near death experience. It's always the same. Your thoughts go with you. So immediately after this, you're only going to have recollection of this life you see. But as you're there, more and more, you do have memories of other lifetimes, and your full memory does start to come back in time, because you're coming from complete amnesia here. So it does take a while for your memories to come back. You know, you don't want to overload things, but what it feels like when you when these memories do come back, I still feel the same. I still feel like Andre It's so strange, like when I experienced three different lifetimes of mine and Neil. So it's like, Oh, okay. But I still feel like me, it was just like, I just had background context as to, like, more experiences I had. It was kind of just like, oh okay. So that's, that's kind of why I'm experiencing this in this life. Is because of that, you know, and I wanted to play that out again, or something of that nature. So it's really like it's you. You just become more you with more knowledge of your experience and more understanding of why you are how you are, but your individuality completely stays the same and who you are right now, in this present moment, is the is the is the complete, the completion of all your other past lives now, just here, not remembering them, you see. So this is why, when you leave you, you still remain the same. It's just your your memories start to come back. It's kind of like what it feels like, honestly, yeah.
Jannecke Øinæs 37:01
Interesting. And what would you say a soul is? Because, from what I understand, the soul is really sovereign, like, no one can control a soul. Maybe we can control humans, but not the soul.
Andre Miller 37:18
Yeah, this is very true. Now, the number one way to entrap a soul is to make it believe something right. Now the ultimate truth is, you know, your soul is the complete ultimate authority. Nothing can hurt, harm or entrap your soul unless you believe it to be so. Now, what does this really mean? This means that when you pass away, if you believe that, oh, there's a reincarnation trap, or, Oh, I have to meet the council of elders, and somebody else is going to tell me what I have to do, or, or any of these things, you can create that. And if you don't know enough that, hey, you can say no, or you you don't have to do that, you are your ultimate authority, then you will allow them to, by default, to do, to control you or to do whatever. This is why conversations like these are so Empower, powering to wake people up to to the eternal aspect of themselves, and help them remember that they are their own ultimate authority, and nothing can hurt, harm or entrap them, unless they believe it to be. So now what a soul is is it's pure consciousness. It's a direct spark from source. And when I first had this realization, and everything that I speak on comes from direct experience, you see? So the first why I say we're a spark from source is because I went back to the void. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the space. Yeah. Well, the Void is the closest thing from source, right? And I was in the void. When you're in the void, it's complete darkness, complete stillness. You don't hear nothing, you don't see it. You're just in complete bliss and peace, and it's just a very beautiful place. But while I was in this space, I said, Okay, I wonder what my original thought was like. What did it feel like in the beginning, if there ever was a beginning? Now, when I, when I thought this, I was instantly taken back to, oh, okay, now, now I have no memory, no recollection at all. I'm just I'm just there. And then immediately I became aware. I was like, Oh, I actually have thoughts. So the first thing that you do is become aware that you are consciousness. This is the first thing. And before this, you feel like you're connected to everything. You're connected to source. You are the infinite at this point, you see, and then you become aware of your individuality, you see. And then, and then I started to feel things, feel vibrations, feel emotions inside of me. And I'm like, Oh, I feel stuff too. I was like, this is this is amazing. I was like, I feel stuff. And then I was like, Well, what can I do with this? Because I have thoughts, I can feel things. But I was like, what, what can I do with this? And then this is when I birthed. It's like, you birth light, right? Like, imagine closing your eyes and thinking something, and then you see, see a thought, and then, you know, all of a sudden there's light. It's kind of like that. And then I birth, and then I'm like, okay, then an idea popped into my head to have a physical body, and then I stepped out of the void, and I was on the other side, outside of creations or universes, but I was in a soul body, and when I stepped out, there was already other souls out there experiencing stuff. So when I say, We all come from this, we do. It's like pure consciousness, pure bliss from source. So we are a spark of the infinite, and we all are, have our own individuality. So that's that's really what, what a soul is. It's just infinite energy and pure consciousness.
Jannecke Øinæs 40:57
Yeah. So is it fair to say that we are part of the infinite and at the same time we are individual like this, these truths are existing at the same time.
Andre Miller 41:09
Yes, this is very true because, and a good example of this I heard once is, if you take, if you, if you have the ocean, and you take a cup of water from the ocean, is this? Is this cup still not water from the ocean, you see? So source would be the ocean, and our individual souls would be these cups of water.
Jannecke Øinæs 41:30
Yeah. Um, so is there other universes outside this universe that we don't even know about in a way, yeah, yeah. Have you been there too?
Andre Miller 41:46
Yeah, there is, yeah, it's so creation is massive. Okay? When I say we live in a creation here, in this one universe, we do now this one universe, you can almost say it's infinite, okay? Because there's tons of realms, and within these realms there's also dimensional spaces. So you can have entire realms inside realms, an infinite number of dimensional spaces in here. So this, this one creation, is absolutely huge. I haven't even been able to see see them all, and I've been leaving my body for like, two or three times a week for like, years, you see not giving, given some breaks here and there for a couple months, but I've had quite a few, and I have not been able to map out anything really here, like it's, it's, it's massive, it's massive, but I'm trying to, but so outside of here, that's just to put this into perspective and into scale. So once you step outside of here, in this in this one creation that has Earth, galactic realms, heavenly realms, angelic has all these realms. Once you step outside of here, you'll see there are other creations and other universes on the other side that are just as big as this one for other experiences in but I will say this, that this is the most complex universe and creation that there is ever made. This is the only one of its kind. This is, this is a collection of souls created this creation, and this is the only one that we can come here to experience limitations in the contrast to who we truly are like this. This is why everybody says that this is the greatest creation ever. This is the center of of of of reality and everything like that, because it is because this one place is the only place that you can come in and experience what it's like to be born. This is the only place that you can come in to experience what it's like to die, to get sick, to truly have limitations. And Earth is the hardest level, because this is the most restricted realm that there is, you see. So this is where we have the most limitations, you know, like we're in complete forgetfulness. We don't remember anything from before here. We're have. We have to be born and taught everything you have to we're sick. We get sick, we age. You know, all of these things occur here. This is the hardest one. Now, as you get out of here, if you as you raise your frequency in the higher realms, each realm template gets lesser and lesser and lesser restrictions, so you step back more to your soul, right? And it's an amazing feeling. But outside of here, there are other creations in other realms. You can even create your own universe, or, you know, creation, if you want to have an experience, and so that. And there's an infinite number of these, an example of this, again, you know, from one of my experiences, I was outside of this construct. And I'm like, Man, this is, this is great. Like, I'm outside. I'm looking at, I'm outside the universe. I see the construct we're in. I'm like, man. This is amazing. I was like, I made it out. I made it out of the universe. I was like, This is crazy. So I was like, let me see, let me see what's going on here. So, I'm walking, I'm walking. There was an infinite number of universes to go to. I was just so excited and so thrilled. I'm getting chills even thinking about this. Like it was so massive. There was rooms and halls with universes. There was tons out in, like a field I seen just, just all types. It was, it was so massive. And this is when I was like, Yo, creation is really huge and infinite. You know, it truly is. Yeah, I haven't seen an end to creation for sure.
Jannecke Øinæs 45:42
And do you believe that it's us that are creating ourselves in a way, or is it another force or power that have created us?
Andre Miller 45:56
When you say creating us, are you referring to humans or souls?
Jannecke Øinæs 46:01
Right? Good question. Good question. Well, maybe humans, how humans? That is more, yeah, have a grounded perspective. Who do you think created humans? Was that us as souls?
Andre Miller 46:16
All right, so I will say that your physical body is, is the physical manifestation of your soul. It's how your soul wanted to represent itself here in this life, right? It's really how your soul wants to present itself. Now, who actually created these human bodies? Well, you know, I will just say that realm one is made in the image of realm two. Realm two is made in the image of realm three. And the souls do actually create the physical body, but now their bodies are intelligently designed. And this whole place, this whole creation, is also intelligently designed. But it's really quite simple to create something when you are an infinite being, you see, it's literally just speaking a word and setting your intention, and it's there, like when the Bible says, God, let there be light and then there was a sun in the sky, like it was really that simple. So all of us have this ability, and all of us have this power outside of this physical body. So creating, you know, something as simple as a human body or even a whole creation or universe. It's really quite simple. When you are the infinite, you know, I will say that.
Jannecke Øinæs 47:29
I've heard you say that life is a game. Can you explain that?
Andre Miller 47:34
Yeah, I actually. So after my first big experience, I came back. I was downloading so much information. The first time, when I was describing my experience, when I seen all the realms, I had so many insights and downloads after this experience, and the downloads were coming in so strong, like as I would receive an idea into my head, I would literally vibrate to see if I was perceiving it correctly or wrong. And this is when I actually cried, because I understood the beauty of of all of this, this creation that we're in. I understood the whole beauty of it and how great this is. But, yeah, I call it the game of life, because every in this, in this creation, there are rules, there are templates, and there's programming you see, kind of like what else has rules, templates and programming video games you see. So in an attempt to explain the nature of reality, I compared it to something that everybody knows and everybody understands is video games. Right now, there's rules, templates and everything, and I use one video game to explain this, this creation that we are in. I chose a game of Madden, which is an American football game, just because it was easiest to structure it. And I go through and I explain all of the realms, similar to the different game modes on this one game. But then there's not just Madden, right? Because, as above, so below, right? So we are, we were. We have been subconsciously creating this universe over and over again, because that's what we do. We are creator beings. So there's not just one sport, right? There's multiple sports. Well, there's not just one reality here. There's also parallel realities, other dimensions, all of that. So I compare that to the other sport games. And then there's also not just sport genres to games either. You see, there's other game types. We have Mario, there's Zelda, there's adventure games, there's shooting games, there's all these other games. Well, that's compared to the all of the other universes and all of the other creations that we have that we can go to experience in. And then I also call this the game of life, and I compare it to video games, because we have to stop identifying with these physical bodies. We are not you are the character playing the game you see. So what does this mean? You have complete control of your life, you know, everything outside of the game, but once you're in the game, one of the rules to this. Particular game is you must forget, but you can't forget that you are also outside of the game, controlling this physical avatar in your higher self, or your soul. You see, and the Guess what? The soul has the ability to pause the game. That's like an out of body experience. You see, you can pause the game, come out, step back into your soul. What a game and you know, and then you can come back and play, you know. So, yeah, I even describe how the vote, how creating other constructs is similar to how we have the ability to program video games. That's the same way we have the ability to create another universe. And I even say, Well, what if you don't want to play any games? What if your soul is tired? Your soul doesn't want to play any games? Well, that's like the void, right? You can take a break. You don't have to consistently have an experience. So, yeah, there's a lot of comparisons.
Jannecke Øinæs 50:57
Yeah, makes sense. Let me ask you, will humans start to remember who they are in our lifetime? You think
Andre Miller 51:07
100% 100% now, in an out of body experience I had December of 2025, I was actually shown that the toroidal field of this place is changing. Now, if you're familiar with you know me, or my work, I explain how everything is created by the black cords. It creates the energy vortex and things of that nature. And what I was shown is that the toroidal field of this of this place, is changing, and it's actually allowing more light and information to come in. And what this means is it's going to be easier for us to tap into the other side, because this toroidal field is the only thing that's keeping the information out. It's like the number one thing that separates us from the other side is this. So we're actually going to be able to raise our frequency and raise our vibration to access more information, to access more from the other side. And this, the overall feeling I got during this experience is it's happening now, like it was happening like now. Now, I know time doesn't really exist over there, but the feeling that I had was like, as if it's happening right now, and is it going to happen in our lifetime? 100% because many of us have been told we come here to bear witness. We come here to experience this. We came here to help make the shift, you know, 100% and for me, personally, from my direct experience, I was here to experience it, but then once, once it wasn't happening quickly, I had to activate and help make it happen, you see? So I had to do my part in raising awareness to help make this happen. But yeah, so yeah, it is. Well, that's
Jannecke Øinæs 52:50
good news. I mean, it's an interesting time to be alive. I'm like thinking how fortunate I'm alive right now experiencing all of this. I'm curious how this has changed you as a person, as a human, in your everyday life, having all these experiences. How has that changed you as Andre in your social interaction, in your life, like for instance, do you have no fear anymore. For instance,
Andre Miller 53:24
I certainly have no fear. So, you know, it's changed me in several ways. I certainly have no fear. I know who I am. I have no uncertainty of death. I'm not afraid of dying because I know what awaits me out of here. You know? I know this is not my real home. I know I am my ultimate authority. I know don't not to believe or listen to anybody else you know besides myself. I know, and now I also have compassion for everybody, because these experiences, what they've done for me most is understand that everybody here is literally the infinite. Everybody here is a powerful soul. It's we literally are, like the way God is depicted in the Bible, that is each and every one of us, and we are all here in forgetfulness playing the hardest game ever. So if somebody makes a mistake, if somebody does something that upsets you, it's okay. We're all here playing this game. We are all here in forgetfulness, you know. So have compassion for everybody, and have understanding and love for everybody. That's, that's, that's, that's another major way that, that it's changed me, you know for sure,
Jannecke Øinæs 54:40
and even having compassion for those who are doing horrific things,
Andre Miller 54:47
yeah, I know it's hard to understand, but when you have these experiences, you understand that this is so temporary. Everything here is so temporary, but even the horrific things are detrimental, because. Because the most horrific thing going on here is making souls believe something that's not true. Making souls believe that they we don't know what happens when we die, making souls believe that they are not their ultimate authority. That's the most detrimental thing, because that carries on after your belief systems here is what carries on after now all the physical pain and physical trauma here that is very temporary, that doesn't really affect too many people. If you're able to heal yourself here and forgive those that done it to you, you'll be able to forgive there. And as soon as the moment that you cross, the moment that you leave here, and you're in your soul form, it's like everything is okay. You know, it's like, everything is just okay. It's like a weight is off your shoulders. It's so even the horrific things here, it's just like, okay. It's like, all right, buddy, that's what you wanted to do in this game. Now also, it's important to understand that, since this game has rules and templates. Somebody has to play the bad guy. You see, to have us have this, this human experience, somebody has to play the bad guy. So some some people are here just playing out their roles. Some people here are corrupted by physical desires such as money lust and things like that. But, yeah, you have compassion for everybody.
Jannecke Øinæs 56:26
Yeah. What is it that you really want people to know right now?
Andre Miller 56:34
The number one thing I want people to know right now is that everybody has the ability to access the other side. Now, the other side is physical. It is returning back home. It is where we come from. It is where all the answers you seek are. And everybody has this ability. Now, you don't have to die to visit heaven. You can do it now in this life, you can step back and remember who you are. You don't have to be sad over a deceased loved one. I know that causes a lot of heartache to us. You know? Oh, where did they go? Well, I promise you, they are okay. They are alive and well, and energy is neither created nor destroyed. They are still here, and you can see them. You can access them now.
Jannecke Øinæs 57:21
Oh, beautiful. This has been incredibly inspiring. Thank you so much. Andre and I have a few questions that I ask everyone, and my first one is, what is self love to you?
Andre Miller 57:34
Self love to me is really standing with being completely authentic to yourself, staying true to what what matters most to you. And you know, I was, I was actually being tested recently on this, and you know, standing for your truth and your off being authentic to yourself and staying true to yourself and what what means most to you is what's self love? Because it's very easy to not to do something out of compassion for another person that goes against what you want or what means something to you. And that's not self love, you know, and a lot of people do that go down that path in the spiritual community, because they have this idea that unconditional love means you have to be selfless. Well, if you're selfless to the point where you're hurting yourself, you're not loving yourself, right? So that's not true unconditional love. So yeah, yeah.
Jannecke Øinæs 58:37
That resonates with me as well. And the biggest one of all, what is the deepest meaning of life?
Andre Miller 58:47
The deepest meaning of life is experience, right? We are all infinite consciousness, and without experience, you can't have wisdom, you see? So it's all about experience, good experiences, bad experiences. It is all a learning mechanism for us to truly understand ourselves. So the biggest meaning of life is experience, whether it is good, whether it is bad. And you know, the purpose of our life is also it can be whatever excites you at that moment. Is your current purpose? Do that?
Jannecke Øinæs 59:28
I love that. I love that. Now, if people are curious to learn how to go out of body or want to learn more from you or follow you or go deeper, can you guide them where to go?
Andre Miller 59:42
Yeah, I have a website, thealchemist369.com you know, there, there is a members only portal where, you know, I'm currently giving weekly presentations on how to leave, how to navigate, and things like that. And I also have an option to work with me one on one.
Jannecke Øinæs 59:58
Yeah, beautiful. For thank you so much for coming on the show today. I really enjoyed it.
Andre Miller 1:00:05
Thank you so much for having me. The pleasure was all mine. Thank you
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