The Key to Soul Evolution! With Lori Spagna

Lori Spagna 0:00

These beings that you refer to, who have specifically chosen a path of evil meaning, the attempt to usurp free will, these beings who comprise of less than 20% of your population, earthly for the purpose of control and domination and for the purpose of keeping humans, humanity and earth and animals, all of your existence stuck and trapped. These beings are expiring in their life force. So many of these will self extinguish and be reunified with their source. However, there is a percentage of them significant who will be given opportunity in other time, space realities where they will still be given opportunity to change, they will not come back to the earthly plane. We will explain this why, for the humans listening to this particular podcast, and the vast majority of humans, have nothing but positive to look forward to. You are being freed and liberated from an oppressive regime. Humans are being given the grace to become conscious and make new choices.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:16

Lori Spagna, a warm welcome back to the show.

Lori Spagna 1:20

Thank you so much for having me, Jannecke. I'm so happy to be here with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:24

I'm so happy to be here with you again. You have been twice on the show, and people really seem to like our episodes. We went into et connection, your channeling abilities, and now our community and wisdom from north have the joy of seeing your class, your master class in my membership, about connecting with divine guidance, and maybe we'll talk about that today, also all the resources we actually have. And a lot of us might be unsure about how to really connect deeper with the guidance that's available. However, we have been speaking quite a lot, and you have so many interesting perspectives, I feel like, on the evolution of the soul and that and the times and the shift we find ourselves in. So we're going to go really deep today. But for those who are new to you, Lori, could you share a little bit about the abilities you have the psychic abilities you have and the beings or entities you are channeling. Like, how long has this been a part of your life?

Lori Spagna 2:30

Well, I would say it all started when my brother died. This is like, maybe close to 30 years ago, almost, and he died of a drug overdose. And very quickly I started getting messages from him. And it took me about a year to make sense of it, like, what was, you know, was it real? Was it was I making it up? And from there, it just started blossoming, because I got the big message from him. So at that time, just to give the quick storyline, I, you know, I was just working in corporate America. I was on the slave, slave driver programming, you know, hamster wheel of life. And I was, in order to cope with this, like I was miserable, so miserable. And so in order to cope, I had developed all kinds of coping mechanisms that are just so unhealthy, you know, excessive smoking, drinking, spending, sexing, drugging, all of it. And his big message was, like, you're on the same path and you have to change. And so I did, and the first change I started to make was I quit my corporate job and I became a dog trainer. And right away I started getting messages from the dogs, and they say, you listen to us, and we'll teach you, because we're here to help the humans. And then in that window of time, I had a lot of other so called, like, dead people coming to me. That's where it started. But right, like, so fast, it really all accelerated, because I got on this journey about like, I wanted to be of service. I wanted to make contribution in the world. I wanted my life to matter, because now I realize, like the preciousness of my brother's life lost, and I wanted to do something that had value and that mattered in the world. So within two years, I just want to say, and then I'll you know, what happened was I moved to Maui and all the things that were really like, so called wrong in my life that weren't working, excessive smoking, excessive drinking, excessive spending, excessive credit card debt, excessive Big Pharma, excessive coffee, excessive eating, like all of it was gone, including six figures in credit card debt within two years, forever, no more alcohol, no more cigarettes, no more pharmaceutical drugs. Never needed another doctor like not since then, and it was because I got aligned with my soul's divine agenda, what I call my soul's divine agenda, my true my true reason for being here. Yeah. And I think that's probably what we'll start to parlay into, or what might some of what might come through here is that, you know, we as humans are mostly living out of alignment with what we're really here for, and that's just because of this juncture of time, right? But we were here for something that paradigm is shifting. Now we're here for something new, so we'll get into that. But I just want to make it clear that the gifts started coming online. They were awakening from within me. They were stored up knowledge and wisdom that was waiting for me to reclaim as I came into right alignment with the real reasons like for what I'm here for, and this is what I want to emphasize for people, because we all have just such incredible gifts and talents and abilities that are unique to us, that that are meant to start coming through at this time for us to share and contribute in the world.

Jannecke Øinæs 5:58

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Lori Spagna 8:13

Well, we can channel through, so we'll just bring through some the collective, right, and have that come through in a channeled way for everybody and just for anyone who doesn't know me. I'll just, I know this is in the other videos we've done, but I'll just restate that I channel a group of beings, Interstellar, non physical beings called they identify as the collective. They're just a collective of all different beings who serve the light. I'm sure that will be defined, because that's part of this. But they're Ascended Masters, divine goddesses, who are also generally Ascended Masters. They could be Animal Kingdom members. They might be my higher self, your higher self. They can be Interstellar, like fleet member, the members of the fleet, which is extra called Max Terrestrials, but they identify as Star Family races. They could be planetary bodies, Mother Earth, Gaia. They could even be a weather pattern we can call in. There's absolutely nothing or no one that we can't connect with through the collective as long as my guiding principle is that they serve the light, and I will let that come through, what that means and what that is, because it's not about necessarily good and bad. So we'll just ask them to come through. And the an initial thing we were asking for just to go back, was, how more and more can you restate the initial question was, how we can start to connect and align with our guidance? Is that what it was no more

Jannecke Øinæs 9:39

more about the evolution of the consciousness. It's important to focus on now. So don't, don't do the spiritual bypassing, and think we're on the right path, and then perhaps we're not.

Lori Spagna 9:54

Yeah, so just takes me a few moments, because I'm just tuning into a frequency of consciousness where we're. The collective, the beings who are going to come through for this particular channeling are they're already here. So Greetings and blessings, and here we are together. And is our great honor and great privilege to share with you on this day. And since this was said at the onset, let us first define for anyone who is confused or perhaps not aware, humans often and this was discussed earlier and has been discussed before, but let us make clear, humans have often confused the light in the dark with the game of polarity. They have often confused the light in the dark with good or evil or good or bad, or right or wrong. And this is not the case at all. So let us redefine this for you, the light is the expansion, the evolution of consciousness, which provides for the continuation of humanity. The Dark is simply the contraction the dark is that which keeps people, humans, animals, earth, or even energy of any kind, stuck, stagnant or blocked. So this is not a game of good and evil. When we discuss the light or the dark that said, we will say that typically and for the most part, the light represents God's will for humanity. And when we say God, we are using a terminology that you relate to, however we would prefer the terminology infinite consciousness or divine intelligence, or intelligent consciousness. And this intelligent consciousness is organized, and it has a plan, an agenda, and this agenda is for the evolution and the expansion of humanity. Now this can be done through the through the light. However, the dark is not seen as bad or wrong or even evil. The Dark is simply the contraction that supports humans in recognizing that this experience associated with contraction is no longer to their liking. Nonetheless, it does serve them. So when someone is experiencing a form of contraction which is associated with some form of struggle or anxiety or frustration or difficulty, some form of challenge or upset, this can be identified as the dark or contraction. And through this contraction, one realizes, if they work with it properly, that they can expand into something greater, that they do not have to experience the contraction or the experience that is to their disliking, whether it be some form of poverty or lack or limitation, some form of relationship challenge or upset, some form of physical health related issue or some form of emotional turbulence, whatever it is, and we could go on that these types of experiences are simply there to support and assist the transformation that any particular human or animal or other being is going through so that they can expand into greater light, and in so doing, expansion and evolution takes place. So there now we have defined in the most simplistic ways, the difference between the light and the dark. And while we could expand on this further, we will address more of what is taking place on this earth. As many of you are aware, evolution is taking place, and this is indeed, as we have referred to, God's plan, or intelligence, intelligent consciousness plan for lighted creation. You are all part of lighted creation. For you exist without the light, the contrast, you would not exist in this reality. You exist eternally. You have always existed. You always will. This reality exists because there is light and dark, there is contrast. However, you do not need, nor require, the unpleasant experiences associated with contrast to continue to expand into the light. This is why you are transmuting it at this time as a collective and as individuals. So when something is not to your liking, the expansion is simply to begin to recognize that there are gifts waiting for you to claim that you are not Yes, necessarily claiming those gifts are gifts of energy and consciousness up leveling of your vibration. It is time now for all humans to begin to recognize that the agenda is not just to raise your vibration, but rather to find a new frequency. See of a vibratory state, a core frequency that is more to your liking, and to be able to maintain that frequency, so that you are more and more existing in a state of energetic vibration that is to your liking, and so that when you are in a state of contraction of some form or another, you are recognizing that there are gifts for out of the dark is simply the potential for expansion, for upliftment and for evolution and for finding a new frequency that you can now begin to embody and maintain. Let us add more, one more piece to this, and then we will pause. And that is to say that your old paradigm, which is often return, referred to by humans, as third dimension, fourth dimension, fifth dimension. This is all old paradigm. Please understand you are moving way beyond fifth dimensional possibilities. But of course, all humans have perspective your field is now completely let us pause there for just a moment. We'll circle back to this. Your evolution of paradigms is existing, and in this evolution, you are recognizing that your old paradigm that was based in this, what humans refer to as third, fourth, fifth dimensional reality is shifting now, and in order to shift, you must utilize all the density that you have experienced in those old paradigms for energetic consciousness to transform your experience so that you can become more energetically conscious for the new paradigm, which is not associated with a dimension per se, is associated with energetic frequency and vibration, the expansion of consciousness will be where all humans and Animals recognize frequency and vibration within themselves, identify those frequencies and vibrations to their liking, or perhaps their disliking, and align with that which they choose in a conscious way. So the old paradigm was based on physical experiences, and we could, we could elaborate on this. However, you already know it was a fear based paradigm. It was an unconscious paradigm that allowed for the expansion of experiences. For you could not have had those experiences, if you were so conscious, you would not have allowed them for yourself, those seemingly painful, unpleasant experiences associated primarily with all forms of contraction and limitation, and in so allowing for that that you are now complete with it for the most part, as you transmute it, you are creating a whole new paradigm that will allow you to experience so much more in physical reality that is more to your enjoyment and your liking based on energetic frequency and vibration and the use of consciousness. Now we are going to pause here for there is much more to share. We believe we have stated enough at this time, but we are present throughout the call for your for your use, for your support, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 18:29

wow, that was lot. That was interesting. How do you feel? Like I just want to hear comes through, yeah,

Lori Spagna 18:37

makes me very happy because there, because these these beings are vibrating to frequencies of joy, like love joy. So when they're coming, you know, I'm in that frequency, it just feels it always feels so good. It's very fulfilling.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:55

And you can just turn it on just like that.

Lori Spagna 18:58

It's not about turning it on. It's about accessing and aligning. It's always there, because all vibrations exist in the here now, right? All, all energy exists in the here now. So it's just a matter of me becoming vibrationally compatible with my consciousness that is there already? Does that make sense? So right now, I'm just at this moment, functioning from what we would. Right now we're interacting at a beta brainwave. But my my brainwaves not really in full beta. It's more like vacillating between alpha delta, not even Delta, Alpha Gamma. And so because I'm accessing that. But when I go into that state, I'm just getting totally out of the beta frequency and just going to gamma frequency. And in that frequency, there it is. It's just, it's very euphoric and blissful energy, and I'm just vibrating with it there. And. And allowing the consciousness that's there. And then, of course, when I call forward the collective, those beings who are ready to serve through this group, through this channeling, are the ones that speak through and come through, but they're not using my body. I'm aligning with them. I'm part of that collective, and that frequency is

Jannecke Øinæs 20:18

feels so fascinated by the many beings that are in this collective, because usually it's one group or the other group, or a group of angels or and you have them all,

Lori Spagna 20:30

well, it's because they're not all with me all the time. Like if you ask me just talk to angels, I'd have to tune in at a different frequency right right there. But they just come forward as part of the collective, not all beings. I mean, see to a certain degree I could let them come through here. Yes, we are your angelic forces here, collective angel of Angelics, choirs of angels and angels of healing. And so we are sharing now here to assist in expanding this conversation. So understand here, we all exist in the here now, all beings exist in the here now, all energies, all vibrations, all frequencies, always available in the here now, however, consciousness, which is working in through and around you as an individual, all individuals at all times, wherever one's consciousness resides, is the energetic frequency and vibration that they are attuning to at any particular moment in time. And so the invitation, then, therefore, and we will liken this to the conversation that was referred to earlier about the expansion of consciousness, that humans are now being invited to expand their consciousness, to tune in at different frequencies and to become vibrationally harmonious at those frequencies, and in so doing, they all humans, you and others will easily be able to access us and any other vibration when a human who is a channel serving as some form of channel, in a deliberate, conscious way, they are simply accessing the frequency where they are most attuned and accustomed to, where they have chosen to interact most often, and perhaps where they may be most comfortable, or perhaps Where their unique soul and their soul's agenda has chosen to share and contribute, or has been most blessed in terms of, we could say, other or alternate or parallel life experiences where they may have developed certain gifts or talents or abilities, you see, but it is never limited, because all that exists always exists in the here, now, and is simply a vibrational bandwidth. You know this already. You have heard this before. It is simply like tuning your radio dial. All radio stations exist, or tuning your television channel or your cable network, they all exist. You are simply tuning into the one that you desire at the moment.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:21

I want to ask a question. Thank you for being here, a question I seldom ask, but I'm curious. The collective spoke about the light and the dark and that that was different than evil and good. Now I'm curious, because we do see polarity in this world, and I would say that we do see horrible actions being made around the world. Is there such a thing as evil?

Lori Spagna 23:54

We love this conversation. We are so grateful for we invited in. And what we will say is that at the purest frequency, and many, many light workers will subscribe to this. At the purest frequency, there is no evil for at the purest frequency, Divine Source consciousness is is frequencies divine intelligence that are beyond love, beyond human love, beyond measurable love, beyond any form of love that you are aware of. However, in your reality, there is absolutely evil in the physical reality. And let us give our definition for it so that you can understand evil is the attempt to usurp freewill choice. So when a being is attempting to force another being, whether it is the use of a gun or some physical force or anything else, when a being whether it is a form of secret, covert manipulation, which happens through your mass media. When it is a form of deliberate, deliberate attempt to usurp free will force. This is evil, for this is the attempt to take away another being's free will. And free will is a governing law in your reality. Now, understand the reason evil is permitted in your reality is because the choice to be evil is a free will choice that a human or another being can choose. It is not God's will. God's will is that you have an experience where all potentials exist. God's will is that you have an experience of free will choice. God's will is that you will choose with your free will to align with the will of God, and we are using the word God here for it is your human terminology. Again, our languaging would be infinite intelligence or divine intelligence, or intelligent consciousness. Nonetheless, we're using the term God. But of course, you may choose any languaging you prefer, spirit, creator, the divine, etc, regardless its will, its will is for you to have experiences and to become more and more conscious of how choosing experiences that are more to your liking, to your joy, to your pleasure with harm to none, will begin to forever transmute your earthly experience and expand you into greater and greater, more fulfilling and more rewarding experiences and potentials. However, to wrap this up, evil exists because there are humans and Non Humans who exist in your reality, who have for so long been in separation from their divine intelligence that is within them as well that they have attempted to usurp the free will of others, in some cases, for the sheer pleasure and joy of it. In other cases, because they are so highly we will use the word delusional. They have lost their own way, and they believe, for various reasons, that they are doing what is right according to their plan, these beings generally do serve the dark. But that does not mean that dark is evil. They serve in the dark because they generally serve in secrecy or in some form of manipulation or coercion, you see, so they cannot serve in the light, because the light would expose them immediately to serve expansion. Hope this has been helpful.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:12

Yes, thank you. And then I get curious. Then when these people or entities, or these people that are living right now on this earth when they die, is this sort of a clean slate then, and it's a new choice to come down to this planet and choose something else. Or will it be then the baggage that you you have with you through multiple incarnations?

Lori Spagna 28:40

Yes. And so we are here. Now. This is an important juncture of time, linear time in your experience, and the question you are asking is somewhat complicated, so we will give old paradigm as we have defined, and time space, reality, future. So let us, let us explain for it is an in depth question in the past, in terms of linear time, these beings were able to reincarnate and come back into your earthly reality, to either learn from or grow or recreate based on who they were vibrationally, and so they were having an experience in this old paradigm that allowed them to perpetuate who they were being or make new choices as all beings always have had that opportunity for you live in a free will choice reality, however you are at a juncture where this old paradigm, as we have been referring to it, is coming to completion. In fact, it in truth, has already come to completion. However, for the gift of grace, humans are being given the grace to become conscious and make. Choices. These beings that you refer to who have specifically chosen a path of evil meaning the attempt to usurp Free Will are extinguishing in their life journey, these beings who comprise of less than 20% of your population earthly, we would say, within that window, people deliberately using evil for the purpose of usurping free will, for the purpose of control and domination and for the purpose of keeping humans, humanity and earth and animals, all of your existence stuck and trapped, these beings are expiring in their life force. Now, for the greater percentage of them, they will extinguish completely. What does that mean? Be it could be termed die, a second death, which is to say that their individuation, their individual identity, will no longer progress. They will no longer be able to remain as individuated beings who progress on a soul journey, for they have gone too far to an extreme that will no longer be tolerated as humanity progresses in accordance with God's will for lighted creation, so many of these will self extinguish and be reunified with their source. However, there is a percentage of them significant, who will be given opportunity in other time, space realities where they will still be given opportunity to change, they will not come back to the earthly plane. We will explain this why they will be given opportunities where it is harder for them to remain the same or to continue in the ways that they have in other time, space realities that are completely unlike Earth, these could be identified as planes of existence, other separate multiverse entirely. In other words, a universe entirely different from the one that you associate your consciousness with at this time as a human species. So the other piece we would just finally like to refer to here is that which we mentioned, that some beings, Earth will not allow certain beings back to her physical reality, and this is because Mother Earth herself, and we refer to her as the mother, for she is the mother of all humans, of all humanity and all living beings here, including animals. She has made a choice, a free will choice to progress, and she is aware that she no longer desires to exist at a frequency where evil can continue to exist on her earthly, physical body. And because of her free will choice, she will not tolerate nor allow this to continue for very much longer at all, which is why there is so much progress at this only part of why, not the whole why, but a major part of why there is so much progress at this time for her free will, choice is also being honored. We hope this has made this clear for you. Yes, we are completed this time. Yes. Very interesting.

Jannecke Øinæs 33:45

All right, okay, so a part of me wants to steer towards the positive now so people don't go into fear, although I think

Lori Spagna 33:57

they want to come back in on this. This is important. We see this as only positive. We see this as nothing to be fearful of. For the humans listening to this particular podcast, and the vast majority of humans have nothing but positive to look forward to. You are being freed and liberated from an oppressive regime, and it may not look pretty to you, and it may incite some fear for you. However, you are being gifted back your empowered state. You are being liberated from that which has kept you small and limited and stuck. You are being given consciousness, which was yours all along you see, you are being liberated, and that liberation is intended to offer you greatness, the greatness of who you truly are, the joy and the fulfillment, the rich abundance and prosperity that is rightfully. Yours, the wealth of living joyfully and freely and safely, feeling the energetic frequency of stability and safety, feeling and knowing that the Source within you will always provide in all ways and can restore to you whatever it is that you feel has been taken from you, you see it is simply a matter of humans recognizing that this is now becoming more and more available, and that all that you desire, all that you have hoped for, longed for, wished for, is available to you Now and is nothing more than energetic frequency away, vibrational bandwidth that you can learn very easily and very joyfully to attune to. There is nothing to be afraid of. For the beings who are leaving your planet and who are extinguishing are beings that you know not they've hidden away in secret corners of the earth, private boardrooms with nothing but harmful intentions toward humanity, personal self service to the harm and detriment of the masses. These beings do not exist. Are not listening to your podcast, and these beings do not exist in the same frequency anymore, where you are beginning to more and more vibrate at there is nothing to be afraid of. There is simply an opportunity to allow more of the richness and the fullness and the wholeness of who you truly are, to come forward and to trust in the divinity that you are as you awaken to the remembrance of the wholeness and the fullness and the completeness that is truly you and has been here for you all along, even while you were playing in that old paradigm where you allowed yourself to experience the density associated with unconsciousness.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:59

So in other words, we have something beautiful to look forward to in this life.

Lori Spagna 37:05

Yes, and we would like to elaborate on this as well, for those of you have experienced physical health issues, and we are not making false promises here, we are giving you divine truth, and we know it is not something that you will arrive with a pill or an instant of a moment, but all things can be healed. So if you have experienced physical health issues, emotional health issues, mental health issues, these can all be healed and resolved. And you will see in the coming years, there are new technologies. But better than new technologies is consciousness, energy and vibration itself, you will be able to lengthen the quality and the ability of your physical life, the ability of your choice, to live longer. If you so choose, you will all know how within yourself, if you so choose, to lengthen your telomeres, to elongate your DNA, to awaken the parts of you that believed in aging, sickness, illness, disease, etc. And the same things are true for those of you who want more fulfilling relationships with yourself, with your Source, with others. And the same thing is true for those of you who want to live in more financially wealthy and abundant ways, for you, will start to recognize that it is possible for you to have the outcomes associated with money without even requiring money. Not that there is anything wrong with money. It is simply an intermediary. So if you want a house, as you begin to recognize your connection with your source, you will start to recognize that source can provide you that house or that car or any other material gain that you desire. You see, you are awakening to new infinite potentials and possibilities that you simply were not aware of before, and this is just the beginning.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:58

And is that just happening? So is the vibration on earth just raising? So my question is, is it something we're doing as humans, or is it something that is happening to us?

Lori Spagna 39:14

There are multiple reasons for this beloved, first and foremost, Mother Earth, herself in the physical world is moving as she moves. And when we say she moves, of course, she rotates around that which you identify as the sun, but so that which is identified as your galaxy is moving through the galaxy. And as it moves, it is moving out of density, a certain quadrant of what you could identify as your Milky Way. These things are not absolutely true, but we are using your languaging so you can understand, as she is moving, she is shifting into higher frequencies. This is only one part. What is also happening is what we referred to earlier as God. Source creators will for lighted creation. Creation God source creators will for lighted creation is that the old paradigm comes to an end, completion through the expansion and upliftment of consciousness, energy and vibration. And as it does, this shift is changing so humans are willing it through their alignment with the will of the Divine that is working in and through your reality. So the plan and agenda of the light for the expansion of consciousness is supporting and assisting by elevating consciousness and raising frequency and vibration, which is allowing and supporting and assisting humans to make new and better choices for them. So this is part of it, too. In addition to that, it can also be said that the planetary bodies themselves, and this is sometimes identified through astrology, astrological alignments, although there is a lot of interpretation that is mis communication sometimes on this. But these planetary bodies and the planetary alignments and the planetary interactions are also assisting with this. So they are having influence energetically. The same way, for example, that the moon affects the tides and the water. All of this is functioning in an interactive way. In addition, there are many beings, such as Star being, Star Family races, extraterrestrials, who serve the light, who are also assisting, who are bringing in frequencies and vibrations that are beyond what has formerly been part of this, which you identify as third dimensional reality. And as they bring in their frequencies and assistance support, they are also helping to up level. There are a myriad of factors. These are some of the primary ones, and there are others too. So that which is known as the resonance of earth, by the way, this can be identified in your science by the Schumann's resonance. Winfred Schumann, a biologist, not a biologist, a scientist, a physicist, who was able to identify this and measure it, this resonance of the Earth is elevating, and so this is supporting and assisting the whole of humanity. One final piece that we will add to this, and then we will complete, is that there are many known as light workers. You are one of them. There are many, many who are actively working with energy and consciousness, actively engaged in healing and resolving that which is referred to as traumas, traumas or unconscious aspects, aspects of self, other, former blocks and limitations that were perceived through subjective lenses of consciousness, subjective perspectives that were not absolutely true through this healing process, these light workers are the transformers and the physical ground crew of Earth. You've heard this before, and this is also supporting and assisting many factors. Nonetheless, this is an inevitable transformation. There's nothing that can be done to stop it. And we see this as positive. We see this as entirely positive because we recognize that the future trajectory, while it is a choice. Is very optimistic for those choosing it. Now we'll just put one final caveat. There are those who will not choose it. There are those who will not choose it. So for those beings, they will complete their life path the way they always did, without realizing an awakening in this lifetime the way it always was, nothing is different, but that that time for that is coming to a close, so that people being born now and into Your future will not be of that ilk. They will be choosing evolution and consciousness expansion.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:08

Hmm, that is good news. Wow. And in our lifetime, I think that's really exciting. Yes. Are you in a trance or are you aware of what's coming.

Lori Spagna 44:22

My brain kind of can't totally remember, but all the information that comes through becomes part of my knowing that I can access anytime. I don't really remember what was just said, but I'm press very present, so I know it. I just can't, like, restate it. I'm sort of like what was said, but I know it, but you know what? I mean, it's just weird because it's a different brainwave frequency. Yeah, see, this is one of those things. There was something that wanted to be said there. I just this little piece, I just wrap up here for this is the fleet. There is much to be dismayed about. On your earth, for many humans have not yet become aware that they are indulging in the very things they do not want. They are still focusing on those fear based distractions, much of which comes through your media outlets and cultural programming as well, and we would invite all of you to become more and more conscious. Are you giving your attention, your energy, to that which you truly desire, or are you focused on what is not, what is wrong, or what you do not like, or what is missing or what is lacking for wherever your attention and energy goes, so your attention and energy will flow, and there is still, of course, much potential to focus on what is wrong or bad or what one judges to be not good or negative. See everything from that perspective is subjective. The meaning that you give something is what like a rolling ball will build. So decide that the meaning that you will give to something, even when it seems negative. You will seek the gifts. You will seek the expansion. You will seek the growth. It is your choice to do this. There are absolute truths, and those are important, but we will not go there for now, there are absolute truths, but for the most part, your reality is entirely subjective. The field will conform to you, so put your attention on that which you desire. More and more of what you desire, what you choose, what is to your liking, what feels uplifting, what feels inspiring, what feels igniting, awakening, expansive and less and less or even omit, if possible, on that which is contracting and limiting or fear based.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:19

Thank you. I wanted to make a small jump because we are actually going to have a live Q&A with our members just in 15 minutes. And speaking of my members, you have made a beautiful masterclass to my membership about connecting to our divine guidance. And I would love for you to share shortly, for everybody listening how they can connect to their own divine guidance.

Lori Spagna 47:46

Okay, well, I can channel this through, but I can also teach it right. Either way, this is like my higher self come in more unifying. So just to note, because it's so easy for me to just close my eyes and let it come through once I'm in there, it just really feels so much so flow. But this is the thing, everybody has gifts. We don't all have the same gifts, but we all have extra sensory abilities. And at this point, if you don't know it about yourself, it's just because you haven't learned the scientific facts. Just really briefly, we've been operating primarily from beta brainwave or delta when we sleep. The invitation is to start expanding brainwave potentials, theta and gamma. Those frequencies allow for telepathy, channeling so much more. We've been operating primarily with the left analytical brain. That's part of our reptilian heritage, or the call it heritage, or ancestry. We've also been allowing the parts of the brain, such as the amygdala and the give me the other word of the other part of the brain, it's not coming at the moment, but to fill up with fear. So these amygdalae, they hold fear, they can be cleared of that fear, like I teach this. So we've also not allowed our corpus callosum because of the way we've been functioning, the corpus callosum has separated, so we were operating like a left brain right brain, but as we start to use spiritual healing practices, we unify left brain with right brain, more of our full potential is operating in a more conscious way. So we just have to change from within. We haven't developed the brain matter in our heart. This is all scientific. There's no questioning whether this is real. You can go do the research, the Heart Math. Yes, Heart Math. So when we start activating the brain matter in the heart, more of that's coming online. We also have incredible potential in stored up, like we've just blocked. You know, this the third the. The third eye, which is the Pineal pituitary gland, calcified from chemtrail. You know this fluoride, artificial sweeteners, diet sodas, genetically modified foods, chemicals. It's time for us to get rid of that stuff. I know it's hard, because those big chemical companies and food companies have a lot of power, but that's changing. It's changing, right? So we have to reactivate and then finally, the DNA, by the I didn't even mention, the gut, brain, as we're changing how we eat, what we put into our body, as we start awakening these major chakra centers, which are chakra centers, are blocked from so much energetic debris. When they're blocked, we're not functioning. We're not clear. The light's not coming through, consciousness is not flowing through, but we can clear this stuff. This is not Woo. Woo. This is now all scientifically valid, and even though there's pushback from, you know, people who want to hold on to old, old science, the evidence is out there now so. And then finally, I just say, I didn't say, I said the heart brain, the gut brain, the chakra centers. What I didn't say is the DNA. This is why there was such a big push to collect DNA, because it's storing up incredible untapped potential, and as the DNA starts getting activated and awakened, which is very easy to do, but it's not something really typically, someone can do for themselves initially, because if your 3d vibe, you know old paradigm, DNA is vibrating here, right? Anxiety, fear, worry, or, then it starts to come here, anxious, or I feel guilty, I'm shamed, like this is not the vibration of joy and peace, right? So, so you need some help to start awakening that DNA, because it's vibrating up here at joy, bliss, euphoria, love, right? But once that starts activating and awakening, there's all kinds of potential within you that waiting past lifetime, gifts, things that you mastered in other past or parallel lifetimes. And if you don't believe in that stuff, the physics out about that as well. So there's this, to me, it's all good news. It's just a matter of when humans finally start realizing what's not serving them anymore has been, you know, it's just something that it's time for them to release and transmute, right? That's why you get you get help from coaches and healers and mentors, because we're meant to help one another. We really are. That's part of the programming. Like we're meant to come together, to serve and support and to shift out of this old, oligarchical, patriarchal, you know, system, this new, you know, more cohesive, supporting one another system.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:03

I love that you're so to me, concrete about it, and that's what I loved about your master class as well. It's not like you're saying, just close your eyes and notice what you're noticing, like you specific with with the science, like having a scientific approach in a way which makes really sense to me, because I'm very left brained. And just what you said about the two brains like, I have a teacher that we've made several courses within Norwegian and she has us crawling on the floor because we need to have the cross like

Lori Spagna 53:40

hippocampus, sorry, I just interrupted you, but hippocampus,

Jannecke Øinæs 53:45

yeah, so we're actually crawling on the floor and practicing that in order to have better balance between the two brainwaves. And I haven't heard that much that teaching, but people become really changed by that crawling every day, which is amazing. I also wanted just to mention for everybody watching, you are so welcome to join our membership. I haven't spoken that much about it, but we've been running it for six or seven years now, and a lot of the guests that I'm interviewing is also master class teachers. And you're so welcome to join us. You'll find the link somewhere below, and it's a place if you really want to dive deeper into your spiritual journey. And now, Lori, it has been a blast having you back. You have received or given us so much support and guidance and knowledge and wisdom today. And now back to you. What is self love to you, Lori,

Lori Spagna 54:44

oh, my god, so good. But can I just say, I know we have time. Can I just say one other thing, this kind of growth, that we're talking about, this kind of transformation? Because it is my team telling asking me to say this. It's not going to happen just through the brain. So that's what people have to get, the old way of learning, listening, studying in a book. That's not the new paradigm. The new paradigm is direct experience. So that when you have direct experience, you come into a state of knowing, you come into a state of Gnosis, right? So that's just want to emphasize that, because that's part of even what's in your master class. At least with me, there was practice, practical application, and that's part of what I'm talking about, like clearing the hippocampus and clearing the amygdala. It's in unifying left and right brain and accessing more of the all of this stuff. It's through direct experience. That's what awakens it in us. Okay, so what is self love to me? Oh, my goodness. I think Self Love is the process of falling in love with self, with source and all that is, and recognizing that the love, the frequency, the vibration of love, is within us and our capacity to be that regardless of what's going on in the external reality, regardless of how things present, choosing to be that frequency, embody that energetic and and yes, feel that way, but not necessarily just emotional, like just be that frequency, be that vibration, and be the fullness and richness of who we truly are choosing to awaken and align with that is self love, choosing the path that serves the self, the source and all that is with zero harm, ideally zero harm and zero detriment to self, right?

Jannecke Øinæs 56:38

Beautiful and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Lori Spagna 56:46

Well, okay, from my perspective, the deeper meaning of life is to have experiences, to navigate to experience and to remember and reclaim, to reclaim our who we are through those experiences, to remember and reclaim and yeah, to reawaken that which is within us, but it's for all those infinite experiences that we wouldn't necessarily have without a body.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:13

Thank you so much, Laurie, and it was nice to have your dog join us as well, next with you, Lori. How can they do so, yeah,

Lori Spagna 57:23

they can go to, of course, they can go to my website at lorispagna.com there's a lot of free gifts there. You can get a DNA Activation at lorispagna.com/free gifts/DNA. If you get that, you'll also be able to get free gift for learning animal communication and telepathy and awakening your psychic gifts and reclaiming your your ability, your knowing as a star seed. And they can also check out the podcast, the awakened, elevated human. And of course, I'm on YouTube as well. Lorispagna.com, Lori Spagna, yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:57

Thank you so much for coming back to the show. Lori,

Lori Spagna 58:00

thanks so much for having me. It's always a pleasure.