Embracing Kundalini and Everyday Spirituality! With Victor Oddo

Victor Oddo 0:00

And I felt this, this ball of energy, I would say, about the size of, like a softball in my, like, solar plexus, and I felt it like wedging its way up my spine. And then there was this explosion, like, to this, like white light. And that was like, Okay, wow, you're tripping out, bro. Big, big deal. But the interesting thing is that same sort of thing began to happen even, like days later, and eventually, as you might expect, I was like, What the heck is going on? So I looked it up online, and it just come to find it was a kundalini awakening.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:36

Hello, Victor, a warm welcome to the show.

Victor Oddo 0:38

Hi. Thank you so much for having me. I'm looking forward to it.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:42

I'm so excited to have you back. I've had you on the show many times before. It's been a while now, but I'm really curious to hear your perspectives on the big shift of consciousness that we find ourselves in. And I've been following your YouTube channel for years. You have a huge following, around 330,000 people, and you're supporting them in their spiritual seeking and Spiritual Journey and Ascension process. And you're also really into astrology and updating us constantly on you know the what the moon is doing with us. And I love your updates. Now what I find really interesting is your transformational story that I would love for you to share, because you went from being a hero heroine or addicted to heroin, and then a spiritual awakening, and that is such a tremendous transformation. So could you share that story and how you were able to, yeah, transform your life, completely

Victor Oddo 1:47

sure that, yes, okay, I'd love to, yeah, you know, I think for a lot of people, suffering can be quite the spiritual teacher, if done right, if we learn from it. So yeah, as you said, right out of high school, I became a full blown heroin addict, which was unexpected, because I grew up in a pretty, pretty regular household, by both mother and father were present. They loved me. It was like a nice middle class home, but just the area I was living in had a lot of a lot of drugs, unfortunately, and I was always quite rebellious, and just was willing to try whatever, and I just sort of stumbled into heroin, come to find and before you, before I knew it, I was just a full blown addict. And after all six months of using every single day, which you have to do because you get really sick, otherwise, I wanted to get clean, and I went to rehab probably four or five times. And every time I got out of rehab, I would, I would relapse, even though I wasn't really wanting to. And then maybe, like the fifth or sixth time in rehab, I found myself once again in rehab, once again, feeling horrible, feeling sick. And it was the first day, and I was at this, what they call a didactic it was like a lecture that different counselors would would give about addiction, things like that. And the guy who was there, this dude named Marty, in particular, he was really religious, and he was talking about God and Jesus and the Bible and things like that. And at that time, I had, like, no faith in anything. I was quite the cynic, so I was like arguing with him, and really just upset, feeling miserable, really being triggered heavily by the information being shared. And I remember leaving that didactic feeling, just just just just like, mad at the world, mad at myself for being there again, depressed. I was nose was running, my stomach was hurting. I was just like, in just a horrible, horrible place, and I found myself back in my room, at the at the edge of my bed, because I knew I wasn't sleeping that night. You normally don't sleep for quite some time now, sitting at the edge of my bed, just like, just in this, like, really, really tight, dark, contracted spot. And I found myself reflecting on what Marty was talking about, about God and Jesus and hope and things like that, and that information, because I was feeling so down, was so annoying to me. I started yelling in my little room at God. I was like, God, if you are so real, as Marty suggests, where are you now? I could really use some help. I was like, I was going off like that, right? And all of a sudden, I was just somewhere else. There was no there was no discernible transition from me being in my little room on the end of my bed, yelling at God, to being in this like heavenly realm is the best way I could put it. Why would I say heavenly realm? Well, it was white everywhere, and the entire place emanated with love, not just the type of love that I would normally feel. It was a it was like a deep, pure, Divine Love, just a love that permeated every cell in my body. And initially I was like, Where the hell, what is this? Where am I? You know. And if that wasn't Strange enough, eventually, an angel appeared off of the distance, a straight up Angel, you. And it became closer, sort of floating towards me, this angel. And as the angel got closer, I felt the angel was like its own source of love as well. I could feel the angel's love getting stronger and stronger and stronger as it approached me, and eventually, like, wrapped its wings around me, like you would think, and embrace me for this hug. And once I hugged this angel, I just like melted into this like divine ecstasy. And without getting too far into it, there was a bunch of like lessons I learned from this angel, believe it or not, it took me into like a life review, all this, almost like a near death experience, but I didn't die or anything. And after, after this crazy, unexpected experience, I found myself just gasping for breath, pushing myself up back in my bed. I had slept through the entire night, which is arguably as great of a miracle as what had just happened, because you normally don't sleep like two weeks when you're coming off the heroin. And that was like I knew wherever I was was where I came from. It was like I had this word home. This is my home. This is where we normally are, and I'm back on Earth. Um, unfortunately, two weeks out of rehab, I relapsed anyways, because come to find even a profound mystical encounter isn't enough to really cause one to change their behavior, unless they choose to. But that was like the beginning of my spiritual awakening, when I realized, like, there is, there is something, at least from my own experience, something way beyond what we're seeing and experiencing now, and it is good. It is full of love. And then ever since I've never I've always remembered that even when I tell the story, I can, like, feel that frequency. And I believe that was like the catalyst that led me into several other types of awakening experiences over the years.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:44

Wow, I haven't heard you share that story before, like, wow, that's really beautiful. And I think it's nice that you also share that it wasn't that mystical experience that solved everything, because that could feel a bit unfair to some. We were like, but I have an addiction, and then you just have a mystical experience, and it's just sorted out. It seems like you still had to do the work, that even though we have profound mystical experiences, the divine still wants us to do the work. And I'm curious how you then did the work. How did you get rid of an addiction? Was it spiritual practices that helped you, or was it other methods or decisions that really transformed your life?

Victor Oddo 7:35

Yeah, okay, it was a combination of a few things. One of them, as I mentioned, I relapsed, like, right away after rehab, and then I went back into rehab again, like a month later, you know, because I was like, back at it again. And at that point I realized, Eve, like, Vic, you had this experience that wasn't enough. Something like, really major has to change. You can't just expect results by going back into your life. So I knew I had to make a change. And what I chose to do was move. I moved down to South Florida from Michigan, about two, almost 2000 miles away, to live in this, like halfway house with other other addicts. So that right there was helpful to get out of my environment. And then there I just, I feel, I feel, honestly lucky. I don't take full credits. I just happened to align with some really good friends, where, even where I was, there was, like, a lot of dysfunction. Most people didn't last beyond a week or two, but I found these two or three awesome guys that we lived with and went from, like, there's like, different houses you upgrade to over the year or so and and during that time, I also knew, like, I had to confront what was causing me to use drugs, which for me, it was anxiety, it was insecurity. It was just like, this physical, really intense anxiety, honestly, that the heroine just took melted away, and I knew I had to, like, go into that instead of run away from it. So I just started doing all this stuff. They told me, like, with the 12 step programs, it was pretty conventional stuff. Like, you know, I would journal and brainstorm, and I would go to the meetings and things like that, but there was a genuine willingness to look at myself and to see what was there, and I think that sort of sparked this interest in personal development. And I was able, over the course of like a year or so, to watch myself transform from having just this crazy amount of anxiety to sharing at the meetings, in front of hundreds of people and speaking and all these things I would have never seen myself doing, but it was a result of, like, pushing through my challenges, not running from them. And that just, I've maintained that sort of enthusiasm for personal development ever since, I would say, but it was just the inner work, the stuff that you do I do. It's just like not running from our issues. Basically,

Jannecke Øinæs 9:39

yeah, and shadow work. I noticed that. So did this lead you then over to YouTube? Your interest for personal development, or was there another awakening before that that led you to become this guide on YouTube?

Victor Oddo 9:55

Yeah, there's a couple other pretty wild experiences I would say I won't go into. Detailed unless you want one of them.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:01

You know, my audience loves these stories. So, okay, well, welcome. Okay,

Victor Oddo 10:08

Cool. So for about, I would say what, like, 10 years or so I was just like, into personal development with maybe a slightly spiritual undertone, but nothing like what I talk about now on my channel, but about at the age of, like, maybe not 10 years, like, my mid 20s, I had what some people call it kundalini awakening, which I didn't even know what it was at the time, but I took some psychedelic mushrooms, which I really enjoyed at that time. And I was, I was sitting in front of my computer watching this, this, like, music video of this, this song called third eye, believe it or not, about by this band name, tool. And I was like meditating and like trying to, like, open my third eye by that by that time, I had some awareness of that stuff, um, and I found at the the song, it ended, and I felt this, like, not this ball of energy, I would say, about the size of, like a softball in my like, solar plexus. And it was like, almost like, like a, like a, how a woman might feel with a baby in their belly. It felt like that. And I was like, What is this? And I was just sort of like, into, into like, into this experience, kind of deeply so intuitively. I just moved this energy up my spine. I felt like it wanted to come up. And I felt it like wedging its way up my spine. And eventually it pulled all pooled in my forehead with with initially this extreme pressure and almost this intensity that was a bit alarming. And then there was this explosion of light, this like white light, and then I melted into like an ego death, basically. And that was like, Okay, wow, you're tripping out, bro. Big, big deal. But the interesting thing is that same sort of thing began to happen even like days later, I would feel this energy rushing up my spine, making its way out of my forehead or head. And it was not like some tingling that you're like, you're just because you're hyper aware, oh, there's a tingling. It was like a like a garden, like a fire hose of watery energy is gushing out of my body, out of my head. That was so powerful, it was alarming. I wondered at times, is this energy going to, like, fry my system or something? Now I just have to lay down and let this like episode ensue until it was over, and it kept happening. And eventually, as you might expect, I was like, What the heck is going on? So I looked it up online, and it's come to find it was a kundalini awakening, at least what I thought and think of the time. And then as that sort of went on, I started having, like, all sorts of stuff happen that I would never have dreamed of, like, like past life memories, these wild dreams, these mystical encounters and and then my like, life started to kind of fall apart, like a lot of people's do after a spiritual awakening, and all these big changes started coming into my life. And by around that time, I started to realize I'm going through a spiritual awakening, just based on my research. And then it was like, years after that, however, that I felt this calling to share about it on YouTube. At the time, it was just something I was going through. I didn't really talk about all that much, to be honest. I didn't think anybody would get it.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:07

Wow, fascinating. I remember when I discovered you on YouTube many years ago. I've been on YouTube forever. I feel like and I discovered you, and I was like, Oh, it's so good to see someone my age or younger, that is like guiding us, because at that time, there were a lot of older spiritual teachers talking. And now, you know, YouTube is full of channelers and guides and mediums, and there has really been a shift I feel in the world, and that people are awakening all over the place and also having mystical experiences. And I'd love to hear your perspectives on that. You also, you know, get a lot of feedback on your channel. What is your perspectives on, what's going on right now, on the shift and the shift of consciousness?

Victor Oddo 13:58

Yeah, so, like you, I have, I have no way of proving my ideas, but just intuitively I it does seem that like what's what happened with me? For example, it is regular dude, the junkie, all of a sudden, is having a spiritual awakening. I feel like that's happening to a lot of other regular folks who aren't going to live in the monastery and really pursuing God. Regular everyday people are popping, as I did, as you probably did, into this, this evolution of their consciousness, basically. And having gone through it, you probably know as well, there are elements of expansion and connecting to other parts of yourself and divinity. There's like a love and a divinity, but there's also a complete rearrangement of your psyche, of your sense of self, of your life, and it can be kind of intense and scary sometimes, and a lot of letting go and healing and changes and confronting the unconsciousness. So I feel like that's like a microcosm of what we're kind of seeing out there in the world and and also with that, it does seem like. Uh, there is some type of change in the energy or the physics, or something of reality where what's going on on the inside is seeming like it's mirroring itself more rapidly on the outside, creating like a like an acceleration, basically demanding that you clean yourself up energetically to align with this, like what seems like this higher frequency that sort of permeating all of our existence, honestly, as crazy as that sounds, so I think we're seeing, you know, as what I described for myself and you probably, and all our followers. I feel like it's happening on a larger scale in the world, where you're seeing elements of, you know, people being challenged by life scenarios and things like that. There's an awareness of what you could say as a blanket term of the darkness or the unconsciousness on the planet. It's more obvious, like, just in the politics and things like that. It's people are like seeing the writing on the wall out there, also in themselves. And there's also these cool ideas coming up, people like you and me, sharing their people, finding their real divine purpose, and putting it out there in the world. But I think that is less visible currently, but I think that has a greater potential to grow and to expand, and eventually you're going to see this light in it, this, this, this more conscious creation start to overshadow the darkness, but I think right now it's quite lopsided, obviously, but I but I do believe that there's a lot of people are learning from the challenges, learning from the darkness, the chaos. There's like, like, a like, with me at the heroin, it's like, I think it's maybe what people need to wake up. And I have hope in the future for the future of humanity. Honestly, I think it might be a little interesting for a while there, but I see, like the energetics of it does seem like we're heading in a very positive direction from how I feel, but I can't validate anything that I just said. It's just sort of my take on it.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:52

You know, you having that background, I think also helps others really resonate with you and believe in you, because when you see that that kind of transformation is possible, then I my transformation is possible. Maybe I'm not such a mess, you know, because so many people are putting spiritual teachers on a pedestal, and I need to be this perfect person. But when we share that we've been really in bad places, and that by opening up to that there is more and all that we're opening up to our lives have changed that is possible for others as well. So I don't think it's a coincidence that you went through what you went through in your path. Maybe it was pre destined.

Victor Oddo 17:42

Yeah, who knows? Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 17:46

there's a video on your channel where you spoke about light workers and tense signs that you're a light worker. And I'm curious to hear what is a light worker from your perspective, because I'm not really sure what it is.

Victor Oddo 18:00

Okay, I will say, over the recent months, I've tried to get away from those kind of terms. I find they kind of become an identity for people. But what I do believe it's a real thing. I believe it's people who are here to help, people who are waking up first, people like you, people who amidst the chaos, are finding something positive in it all, and also like this yearning to share something that will help others. It's people, I think, who are living their purpose, who have found their purpose. And this could be like a YouTube teacher or whatever. It could be someone who cleans windows, and every time they go to the their customers houses, they're just this cool person with a nice smile and a warm energy. And they're, they're, they're uplift they're uplifters, I would say light workers in general. And there's all these theories about their extraterrestrials and this and that. I have no idea. I have my like ideas, but I have no but fundamentally, I feel like it's people who are spreading quote, unquote light, which is to say good vibes, happiness in just them being themselves and living their life.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:04

And then you had a video when, with an interesting title, something around like, do not open your third eye, something why you should not open your third eye. We just spoke about you having a vision or something in your third eye, in the the awakening. And that I got curious by that title, and I wanted to ask you about it, because I know it could start, you know, a deep process. So I'd love to hear what that was.

Victor Oddo 19:33

Yeah, that was sort of like what you could say, a clever hook into delivering my message, which wasn't like, don't open your third eye. It was more like, if you don't, it was almost like it was kind of, it was almost like a not a joke, but the message was like opening your third eye, which I would look at as like a metaphor for just embracing awareness. You could say waking up. If you don't want to wake up, then it's been. A while since I've actually made that video, I'm trying to recall what it was. It's basically like, saying, If you don't like, you could. It's almost like, uh, urging to not. How do I put it? Honestly, it's been so long, it's basically, it was kind of a joke. Honestly, it was not a warning to, like, not open your third eye. It was basically like, if you're going to open your third eye, you're going to start to see things that you didn't see before you're going to start making positive changes in your life, things are going to be good. It's almost encouraging them to, quote, unquote, open their third eye. But again, that's more of a metaphor for just embracing consciousness and awakening. If that makes sense,

Jannecke Øinæs 20:32

maybe that you wanted to sort of not warn people, but also say that, Hey, be a bit careful with this, because if we do open up, isn't there an element, if we do open up too quickly to these things, and we're not totally grounded, we could get out of balance?

Victor Oddo 20:51

Yeah, I do agree with that. That wasn't the reason I made that video. If you watch or you watch it, it's not about that at all. But that is true, although I also think if that thing, something like that, happens to somebody is probably meant to be. Honestly, I feel like people's timing is feels like when people are ready to pop in that way they do. But you're right. It can be quite ungrounding If you're like, blindly just diving in, you know, trying to chase enlightenment, whether it's opening your third eye or something else, and you're kind of naive to the fact of how powerful of like, a residual effect that can have on yourself and your psyche in your life. It's something to be respected. I would say spiritual practices in general. I agree with what you're saying for sure.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:33

Do you think that we could will awakening, or is it just happening?

Victor Oddo 21:40

That's a good question. I honestly don't know. I think there's a teacher I like, aashanti. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him, but he talks about, like, the paradox of like, meditation, you know, for enlightenment and also grace. He says, when someone becomes enlightened or awakened, it's like an act of grace. But he says there's kind of a relationship there. He says, if you do want that grace to happen, you'll increase your likelihood if you meditate and do things you know in that regard. But it's just to say that you willed it. It's kind of like a combination, he says. And also it does happen sort of randomly to people who aren't seeking it at all as well. So it's, I don't claim to know the answer to that. Honestly,

Jannecke Øinæs 22:23

what do you feel is a difference in you between like before you awakened and after the awakening? And I wouldn't say that the awakening is an end result. Either it's you know, forever unfolding, but for those who are new to like, what is awakening like? Will I lose myself, or will I change personality? What's actually happening? So how do you feel like the contrast between the before and after you

Victor Oddo 22:49

okay, I feel like it really at the root of it. It's just having a bit more awareness and being able to discern what is authentic, what is real for you, and what is maybe, your conditioning, your your things like that, and there's just, just a dawning of awareness and what, and I think the challenges it presents is like when you suddenly turn on a light and you realize your closets a complete mess. There's a lot to deal with in your life, in your psyche and your belief systems. So I think awakening is just awareness. And then from there, you have a choice. You can continue to act from like, impulse and instinct and conditioning, or you can start to like, question it and make other choices, you know, based on, like, maybe your intuition or what you feel is true for you. So. So how do I feel now? How is it different? I would say, my life has been, you know, once I had my awakening, I began the process of starting to at least create and design my life a bit more consciously, whereas before it was, it was completely unconscious, you know. So in that regard, my life is, I would say, a better reflection of who I really am. And also, there's a piece that comes not a constant piece, but time, at times, a great piece with just be being more unburned, less burdened down by your past and your your your unresolved issue. There's a lot of healing involved in awakening. So I feel a bit lighter energetically, still a mess, and still have issues and stuff, but better than before. So there's a lot of different elements of how I feel now compared to before, but I would say that's my answer in general.

Jannecke Øinæs 24:28

Hi there. Since you have been watching this video for quite some time now, I assume that you like it, and maybe you've been watching some of my other videos, and if you appreciate them as well and my show, please go and hit the subscribe button that really helps us to reach out with the videos. We put so much love and work into what we're doing, to help to raise that collective consciousness. So be a co creator. Subscribe to my channel. Thank you so much, and may you shine the light that you are. Ha. And you have been on YouTube for many years now, and I assume that you are, you know, evolving in your spiritual beliefs and spiritual development. Where do you feel you are now, sort of from when you started YouTube? For me, I feel like I'm in a totally different place, and what I believed in has changed. I am much even more open minded. I've opened up to even new concepts that I didn't before and and I know that that can change also. So, so where do you feel you are now in your spiritual journey, and what are you most excited about? You know, talking about on your channel,

Victor Oddo 25:41

okay, yeah, it's a tough one to say, because there's been many different like themes in my life since I began on YouTube, of all the different varieties and the theme I'm in now, you might say is, uh, I went for a while where I was really invested in growing my business, living my purpose. And there's a lot of action, a lot of doing, you could say, towards a goal, towards this hyped up future scenario. And when I realized and sort of creating some of these things, I was insistent that would help me and have a better life, and things like that, and seeing how I'm always the same no matter what I do, no matter what I create. I'm in a place now of realizing, sort of like, that's not the answer. Another 100,000 on YouTube isn't really going to change how I feel in my day to day existence, really at all. It's a fleeting little triumph that comes and goes, and then there you are. So I'm in a place where I'm trying to I'm better at, you could say acting out of inspiration and still doing things and working on projects, but not with this sort of false expectation that is going to complete me or heal me or make me feel any better, and just try to be more appreciative of just being alive and being a dad and being a husband and Going and been playing with life more just trying to have more of a good time, and not being so serious and working so hard that kind of thing, and also just being more flexible. Because what I'm saying is a season in my life now, but I also feel like there's a lot of things I'm going to be working on in the near future, so I feel the season's already kind of changing, and just trying to roll with it, not not trying to say, Okay, I figured it out. I'm good. I can relax. I got it. It's more like being humble and saying, I don't know anything. Man, we'll see what happens. I'm going to do my best in each and every moment. So I know that it probably didn't take any sense what I said, but it's a hard it's hard to say, honestly,

Jannecke Øinæs 27:37

I think it makes a lot of sense. And the thoughts that are coming up in my mind is that part of me thinks it's a bit sad for me that, how can I say this? Well, I've had the same, you know, the same goals on YouTube and to create this and manifest that, and and then all of a sudden I feel like I I am so abundant. I have the boyfriend, I have the beautiful home, I I have the YouTube channel. I feel like I interview those I want to interview and and what's the next? And I know it's about it's not the next. It's not about what's next. And that has been, you know, I mean, it's chemicals in our brains that makes me feel high when I achieve something, and when that is not as strong anymore, because I know it's not about it. And I just reached 100,000 and I was like, that is going to go for 12 years. And then I reach it, I'm like, okay, yay. It was a feeling that lasted for a few minutes, and then what's next? And I knew it was going to be like that, but I was still a bit sad that it was like that. And yeah, so, so it's my next it's sort of a surrendering to the moment and to just be more present in whatever is not chasing that next moment, even though still the chemicals are working, and I can observe that, that I still get a high from, like, I don't know, finish the thing, finishing this interview, or editing a video. Oh, I'm done. Ah, what's next? I still get tiny that, and I think that's part of being human, but I think also the process is about deepening being in the moment, so the moment, moment in itself, can just become richer and richer and richer, and then the mind not controlling what's next and what's next.

Victor Oddo 29:38

Yeah, yeah. That reminds me of the you ever hear the toll text like these Mexican shamans that they have this concept called controlled folly. And folly, they say, like, if you think getting 100,000 on YouTube is gonna make you enlightened or happy, that's folly. It's false thinking. But they have this word controlled in there, controlled folly, which they explain is, it doesn't mean don't build your YouTube channel. Know, don't build your business, don't chase your dream, but don't, yeah, don't lose yourself in the process. Don't mistake this end result for just the beauty you can experience in the journey. But it's a lifelong practice, obviously, but that what you what we're talking about, reminds you of that concept controlled folly. It always kind of stuck with me.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:18

Yeah? Well, there are a lot of people who want to connect with their guides having downloads. I interview so many teachers who have these downloads. I don't feel like I have downloads, or I don't feel like I get direct messages from my guides. However, I've come to accept that because I think that, well, maybe I'm speaking to my higher self, or I'm communicating in another way with my inner guidance. But I know you are communicating with guides. You've created a few videos about how to communicate with guides. So what are your tips on people who really want to connect with their spirit guides?

Victor Oddo 30:56

Yeah, I will say, though those are older videos, and that was like I would say, a phase in my life that I don't, I don't try to connect with guys these days, and haven't for quite some time. It did seem like there was the ability to do so, but, um, but how did I do it? It was just, I feel like a phase of my awakening when I opened up, sort of naturally, to all the different things about reality that I didn't realize was there, like deceased loved ones, that kind of thing, spirit guides, all that. But nowadays I'm like, you I feel like, I think download, the idea of a download is kind of a hyped up thing. For me, it's just a sensation of inspiration that I act upon. Some people might have that and say it's a download, rock, angel Michael, but me, it's just like, I just like, it's an inspiration, you know, so you want me to give like advice? I wouldn't say I'm the guy to go to for connecting with your spirit guides. I don't necessarily feel like that's important, honestly anymore. I would say, since I've made those videos,

Jannecke Øinæs 31:52

yeah, do you think we can lose ourselves in those spiritual terms, and that it's more about just being present and that we are complicating things actually?

Victor Oddo 32:03

Yeah, yeah. I honestly, I found, I stopped making a lot of videos about that, because I found what it seemed to be perpetuating is people putting almost too much focus on on the spirituality aspect, spirit guides, things like that, and neglecting their lives, neglecting their loved ones, their families, thinking that this sort of spiritual experience in the future is gonna come and, like, rescue them where we're now more of a proponent of just, like, be a good person, be a good friend, be honest. You know, just like, very simple way of going through life, I think, actually pierces you into the divine more so than, like, some kind of fancy spirit guide meditation or whatever, if it's done from the motive of, I want to escape my life, or I want to inflate my ego by being somebody who can connect with their spirit guides. I think my motives at that time, years ago, was was, was more kind of like that. Unfortunately, now it's not a priority. I would say,

Jannecke Øinæs 32:56

Well, that's very honest. And speaking about how we change, you know, looking at our past selves is always interesting, raising that as well, like, Okay, I was there at that time and and then understanding that other people can be there, you know, and they can be there now, and that's important for them to go through. So I think also that sometimes there are a lot of judgment about how one should be when one are spiritual or is spiritual, and what is being spiritual anyway? You know?

Victor Oddo 33:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 33:35

What is like your deepest insight that has come to you about the nature of reality.

Victor Oddo 33:46

Um, I honestly don't know deepest insights about the nature of reality. It's always changing. It's always changing. At the time, I was like, oh, there's spirit guides or aliens. Is this now? It's like, okay, now it's the older I get, the less I feel like I know. Quite honestly, I feel like I don't know. I feel like I'm humbled as life goes on and put in my place as someone who doesn't have it all figured out. So I just try to be like a humble servant to my true nature as best I can, and I believe that will give me the greatest life, essentially I could elaborate I'm being kind of like kind of a boring answer. One of the things I'll say that I have learned is following your excitement, or following your passion, and going in the direction of things that are exciting and resonate though scary does seem to lead to a better life. And I think a lot of people have this, have this awareness of, like, I could be doing this, you know, and a lot of people are frozen in fear, but I've lived my life like going into that through the fear, and I think that has allowed me to, like, sort of upgrade my life and my happiness over the years. So I think, like, fear viewers, that's a good message. It's like we're truly following your passion, even when it's scary. I think is a good sort of North Star for living an ever improving life.

Jannecke Øinæs 35:06

Oh, you are speaking my language, like the North Star and everything. I believe we're born with 100% joy, and that we're meant to follow our joy. And I think if we're not doing it, from what I'm seeing, people are not happy, and they are even getting sick from not doing it. Because I think when you deny what's natural to you, you're denying your existence, you're denying your natural essence, and then there's not balance, it's not flow. And yet it's so hard to follow our excitement because of, you know the structure and the conditioning mine, who says we need to make money in a certain way and all that? Yeah, for sure, yeah. So a little bit back to the shift of consciousness. I know you're into astrology. Could you share what does astrology say about the time we're living in.

Victor Oddo 36:03

Honest, quite frankly, I don't know much about astrology. I just find that during the full moons, there does seem to be like an acceleration of like potential to grow spiritually and emotionally. So I usually just time my sort of messages around the moons. But I don't know I would. I'm not. I don't my wife knows more about astrology than I do. I don't even know my my sun sign. I know very, very little, honestly about astrology. My updates, even though they have a full moon in the title, are just genuine, just like in intuitive, my intuitive take on what's happening right now with my life and just my followers. Basically, it's like a more like an intuitive reading more so than based on astrology.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:43

So you don't have any like thoughts about if we're in a big cycle that, because I have heard that, that we might be like in like that the earth is going through cycles, and we're in a phase now that's part of, like, a 26,000 cycle, and to the Golden Age, because we're in that phase of the cycle, getting closer to it. And that resonates with me, and I think it's connected to the stars, but I don't know much more.

Victor Oddo 37:17

Yeah, same. I've heard that too, and it makes sense based on, like, what's happening and stuff. But I couldn't elaborate it anymore on it more than you just did there. But it resonates with me. The idea of that, it makes sense. I think it kind of explains a lot of what we're experiencing, for sure.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:33

Yeah, do you think there, there are any new thoughts that are born, or do you think that, that it's just a recycling of thoughts that have always existed. Like, do you think new things are born, or is it just recycling?

Victor Oddo 37:54

I don't know. That's a deep philosophical question. Darnuth, I think I resonate with the idea that all things exist now and that it's only our, like, sort of human perspective that makes it seem like there's this linear past and future. So in that deeper sense, I think it's already there, honestly, and we're just maybe aligning to much like you would change the channel on your television to new ideas. But really it's not new. It's just like a frequency that's been there and all of a sudden you're you can go to that channel. You just updated your subscription. Now you can go to these higher channels or something. But as far as like thoughts and stuff, I don't know, what do you think? Be curious to know what you think about that.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:31

I've had that question before, and I wanted to ask my guests about it. I thought it was very interesting. I don't remember what I answered. I'm not sure. Actually it's, it's also connected to, you know, our new souls born, or is it just like but, but when we talk about souls, then we talk about individuality. But again, everything is one, and nothing exists outside that oneness. That's one truth, that's one perspective, so then nothing new is sort of created because it's just the same out of that oneness. And I don't know, from one perspective, probably new thoughts are born and new souls are born from another perspective. No.

Victor Oddo 39:22

Yeah. It reminds me of, like, growing up in childhood. When you're a little kid, your reality is like, your house and your parents and your neighborhood, you're like, I got it all figured out. This is, I live on bearishford Street, and there's 15 houses, and my parents are like, my gods. And then all of a sudden you get older, and you go to school and you're like, Whoa, I was mistaken. There's more. And I feel like, I feel like we're still living in the little neighborhood consciously, I feel like to I feel like anyone that tells me, like, for a fact, is how it is, I would be little skeptical. I feel like I'm aware of how limited my consciousness is, even still. And I feel like I can speculate. From this vantage point, but really I don't, I feel like there's, there are levels to this, and as I grow and maybe even die and cross over, I'm going to have a completely different idea about all things. So I just try to let it be and flow without thinking too much on it. Honestly,

Jannecke Øinæs 40:16

I assume that a lot of people who want to create spiritual businesses, or want to follow their dreams or following you? Do? You have any advice? Like, how did you start a YouTube channel? Like, what? How did you find you know the courage to do so and just speak your mind and figure it all out, technical wise and figuring out what videos to make. And there are many people out there who want to be creative, you know, and just follow their dreams. But how do they how do we do it? How do we find the courage?

Victor Oddo 40:52

Yeah, it honestly, it kind of goes back to what you were saying about, about following your bliss, or following your truth, following what excites you, your joy. If you don't do that, you feel uncomfortable, you feel like backed up, you feel like your life is not going in a good way. So for me, it was kind of like that. I had this awareness that there is this desire, this organic passion to share and express myself and to help people in a deeper way. At the time, I was like a fitness trainer, and I wanted to help people, like, transform themselves in a deeper way. And like, training clients could care less about that. And there was just this, like, passion, I would say, and and, yeah, it was terrifying, because in order to follow that, I had to pretty much say goodbye to my my my job, my all I knew before my whole life scenario was not at all in alignment with where this passion was leading me. So it took tremendous courage and faith and trust to plunge out there and the unknown. But I did. I did. I just, I followed it, I closed down my life. Basically, I moved my family and I started sharing on YouTube, and then I kind of just one thing led to another, and then the YouTube channel started to grow, and I started coaching. But my advice for people, based on what you said, this is kind of what I do now, primarily for my career, is I teach people how to grow online business in the spiritual niche. And one of the things I see a lot of people doing is it seems like there's a couple things going on. On one hand, a lot of people have a genuine passion to do so. But then there's also, there's like, I gotta make money, I gotta fix my life. And I found that for me to succeed, I couldn't really have too much self interest. Honestly, it had to be about I want to help people. I want to share my ideas online. I want to, like, what can I do today to make the world a better place, and really owning like, really, truly thinking that way and not like, so that I can make money. It's like, No, I just want to help people. And I found that when I had that pure intention, which comes and goes, that's where the downloads and the good at the million dollar ideas can come when you really want to help. So for those kind of people, it's like really asking yourself, like, how can I help someone today? Like that root mentality, I think will lead to success in business, honestly, and also the courage to carry that out that's very helpful.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:11

Like constantly anchoring yourself into the why, why you're doing what you're doing. And that's so easy to forget and go with defaults. That is, you know, influenced by the society that constantly gives us that focus. So I think that's a practice you have to do all the time, and it's great to get that reminder from you as well. How do you deal with, you know, negative comments or comments or like, No, it's not like that, Victor, it's like this. And you have misunderstood it. And spirituality is like this, because I've experienced that. And you know, all the feedback, the energy that that is coming towards you when you have so much exposure, yeah,

Victor Oddo 43:55

it's a challenge for me at times, honestly, because I am quite like sensitive, and I'm introverted in my normal life, I don't like a bunch of attention. I just feel called to do what I do, but I have good days and bad days with that sometimes I what I've learned to do over the years, ignore most of it, even the good feedback. I try as best I can, and I'm not perfect, to just ignore everything and just be myself. When I start getting too attached to the positive comments to that degree, I am also negatively impacted by the negative ones. So it kind of it's both. I need to, kind of like, have a boundary with which, on some days is good and some days is bad. Also sometimes negative comments are good. Sometimes you can learn from them. It's not always someone just being like, you suck or whatever. And sometimes there's like, oh, okay, maybe I can improve things based on this. Maybe they put it forth in a really mean way, but maybe there's something there. So I try also to consider what I'm being shown sometimes as well. But a lot of times it's just people who are just projecting their issues onto me, and it has nothing at all to do with me or what I said, um. And when I can sense that as best I can, I just try to, like, not feed it with my attention. So there's a lot it depends on the circumstance, I would say, with how I react, most of time, I just ignore them. Sometimes I learn from them, and a lot of times it's also a good way to look at myself, because if I am affected by someone what they're saying, maybe there's something about in me that believes in that. So there's a lot of transformation also that can come from the negative comments. So I don't try to look at it like this problem. It's just a it's a side effect of being out there. And there's, there's good things about it, and there's challenges. And I try to learn and grow from all of the all of that.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:36

What are you most excited about right now?

Victor Oddo 45:41

Um, playing guitar and fishing. Believe it or not, I spent a lot of a lot of time, like, working hard, and now I've been playing a lot more, and it's been good. And I love fishing with my sons, and I play guitar even though I'm not good about two, three hours a day, I rock out, and it's, uh, it's given me a lot of balance in my life. For someone who's like a type A always working, it's been nice to do these things that are fun and humbling and challenging, and they're just for me. It's not, I'm not going to become this expert fisherman or rock star, but it's fun to do things without an agenda. I would say

Jannecke Øinæs 46:16

nice. This is lovely speaking with you, and I have a couple of questions that I ask all my guests, and the first one is, what is self love to you?

Victor Oddo 46:27

What is self love to me? I think it comes down to just true awareness. Like I don't claim to have self perfect self love, but I think what it is is when I'm aware of, like, what I really am at the core, which is like a spirit like this, like this really perfect, divine, little spark of the divine. And I think when you're actually aware of that, it just makes logical sense to love thyself. But it's a process for me. I don't, you know, the degree of myself love comes out of my behavior, and some of the things I do in life are indicative that I have love for myself, like I exercise and I meditate and I take cold showers, that, you know, I do things to help myself, but also I have self destructive things I do once in a while as well, and that's where I need the work.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:19

And what is happiness to you?

Victor Oddo 47:26

It's interesting. It's kind of like how you were talking about how when you when you succeeded, and with 100,000 followers, there was like a feeling of like elation, right? To me, happiness, I think, might be like that, where it's just like a temporary excitement or something. But I think there's a deeper, a deeper piece, a deeper, something deeper than that I think I'm trying to find, because I find happiness like the weather comes and goes and I think it's like a not really, really likely that I'm just going to find happiness and stay happy. Because I think almost like happiness might be in this reality dependent upon challenges and darkness and this, this sort of other side of the coin. But I think like what I'm striving for so much now is not so much happiness, even though, on some level, I am, but it's more so, like a peace with it all, a genuine acceptance of the good times and bad times. I think that's more reliable, you could say, but I'm not there. I'm like, working towards that, I would say.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:26

And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Victor Oddo 48:33

I don't think there is any one meaning. I think it's all I think there's almost like an infinite amount of awesomeness, and in every moment of experience, I My My hope is that I can grasp more and more of it as life goes on. I don't think we're gonna die. And like, you know what? It's all about this? I think it's like, I think it's way more, way deep, way more vast than that. And maybe I, honestly, I think the meaning of life is something that you can't really put into words. I think it's like an experience. It's like a roller coaster. It's like, you can be like, yeah, roller coasters are fast, and they sometimes twist and turn, and sometimes you're afraid, but it's kind of exciting. And some people throw up, but it's like that, just that this, those are just words. Being on a roller coaster is like, this visceral thing, and I think that's kind of what life is. So I try not to, like, think too much about I just try to my goal is to be in life. I would say that makes sense, but yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:31

makes a lot of sense. I love asking these questions, because I always get so different answers. And I love that, yeah, Victor, if people want to connect with you or work with you. How can they do so

Victor Oddo 49:43

just they can look me up on YouTube, just by my name, Victor Oddo,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:46

you draw pop up. All right. Well, thank you so much, Victor. It was lovely having you back on the show.

Victor Oddo 49:53

Thank you. You. I really appreciate you. You do a great job with asking good questions and doing your research, and it's very I've been on top podcast where it's more like I end up leading it sort of a bit about mega so you do a phenomenal job. You really good at what you do. And it's it was very fun to be on here with you. And I enjoy your your your vibe and your it's just really nice to connect with you. So thank you so much for having me on, and I wish you nothing but the best.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:14

Oh, thank you for that.