The Soul Fragmentation Connection! With Steve Burgess

Steve Burgess 0:00

This is one of the most rapid successes I have ever had. In 33 years, the surgeon turned to me said, I have never seen anything like this in my career. It was like operating on a dead body. Part of our soul is on another planet, somewhere, you could say, or in another part of the universe, in another body, in another life, which is connected to us energetically, and if something traumatic is happening in that parallel life, it will be affecting us. Now, every illness has emotional causes, including cancer, and in fact, all addictive substances are a means of anesthetizing inner emotional pain. So from my perspective, I believe everything is curable. It's not good for us to take trauma into the future lives, because if we don't release the trauma now, we've only got to pick it up again in a future lifetime. Janeke, his problem was completely cured in 15 minutes. Completely cured a lifelong anxiety state.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08

Steve Burgess, a warm welcome back to the show.

Steve Burgess 1:12

Thank you so much for having me back on Jannecke. It's great to see you again. It really is.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:18

It's lovely seeing you. We met each other in Oslo, actually in my apartment, and we did an episode there that became very popular. People seem to love everything you had to share about your interesting, interesting experience with being a hypnotherapist and especially regressing people back to their past lives. And I'm saying past lives because maybe it's parallelized. We'll dive into that. And now you have come out with a new book, The Adventures of a Hypnotherapist. And you are an LLP, NLP master, and you have regressed 1000s of people and have had over 15,000 therapy sessions, been on television, like you're doing great, great work, and this line, this line of work that you're in has really transformed your lives, life, but also so many people's lives, even saving people's lives. And we're going to get into that. And I would love to hear a little bit about that turning point where you were a therapist and then this client allegedly walked into your office and just changed everything. Could you share that story?

Steve Burgess 2:34

Yeah, and it's quite dramatic as well. I'll underplay Janneke, because microphones may burst if I don't, and I actually do a one man show, I call it the power of past life regression, where I share these types of stories when I'm actually acting them out to the audience, and they're always shocked when they actually can see what can sometimes happen in a regression session. So I was a standard hypnotherapist using what we call post hypnotic suggestion therapy for the first nine to 12 months of my career, which is just basic hypnotherapy, guiding people into trance and feeding their subconscious with positive suggestions to help them to change. And that was the way that we were trained as hypnotherapist back in the early 90s, primarily. And then one day, yes, my whole career, my whole life, changed, really, when a young man came in to my office, about 24 years old, suffering from a very bad anxiety state. I mean, he really was an absolute bundle of nerves. He sat in front of me and he was shaking. He was hyperventilating as he was speaking. He was stuttering and stammering his words, and this is a severe anxiety state. And I said, So how long have you been like this for? They said, Well, I've been a worrier all of my life, but the last few years, the anxiety got worse and worse and worse, especially when the children came along, and since then, it got worse and worse. So now I'm like this. I can't work. I've had to give my job up. I sit at home all day just shaking doctors giving me tablets, which have made things worse, and my wife is fed up of it. She said, We haven't got a life. She's going to divorce me if I don't get better. So I said, has anything caused this in your life? As you look back into childhood, there were no real childhood traumas which would have which would be deep enough to have caused such a deep anxiety state. So I thought, Okay, well, so we'll do some gentle hypnosis, which is, you know, is a sort of a relaxed state. Primarily, I guided him into a gentle trance, and he relaxed beautifully. Annika, he absolutely softened in the chair he was laid there. His breathing slowed down. And I thought, this is brilliant. But. You know, I'm going to be on a winner here. This is working. And I got my scripts of suggestions to let go of anxiety, and I'm reading these two. You know, from now on, you're going to be much more relaxed, you're going to be feeling much calmer, you're going to notice every day, you'll be feeling freer and easier. And I'm just giving all these nice suggestions into the subconscious, and it was going beautifully. And then all of a sudden, he was laid in my chair with his eyelids closed, deep in trance. And suddenly he went tense, his body stiffened, and he started to look around and move around inside with his eyelids closed, and suddenly started to half whisper and half shout, and he was saying, no, no, Hide, hide. The children. Hide in here, the coming, the coming, quickly, quickly, quickly, Hide, hide, hide. And then all of a sudden he started to writhe and shake and scream, and his arms were flinging out, and he's screaming, no, no, no, no, no, no, not the children, no, no, no, no, no.

Steve Burgess 6:11

And you just flopped down in the chair, and my heart was thumping. I've never seen this before.

Steve Burgess 6:19

I said, How do you feel I feel wonderful. He said, I've never felt this calm in my life. I feel completely relaxed. I feel absolutely wonderful. And I thought, well, I don't my heart was beating. I said, what was happening? What were you experiencing? He said, It was really strange. I was like in the body of somebody else, a man, and I had my family, and soldiers were trying to find us, Nazis, and we tried to hide, and then the Nazis found us, and they shot us and killed us, all, me and my family. What was that about? I said, Well, you've been in a past life, because obviously I knew about past lives. I've been a practicing Buddhist for many years, so obviously I knew about reincarnation, but I've never worked with it therapeutically. I said, How do you feel? He said, I feel wonderful. Do you know Janneke? His problem was completely cured in 15 minutes, completely cured a lifelong anxiety state. And I thought this is so significant, I need to know about this. And so I started to get information from the American past life Association. Started to work with it, run past life regression group workshops, and then I've developed this system, a regression system over the last 33 years, which uses past life regression and other regression elements as the core of the system in order to help people to get better. But it all started with that young man.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:52

Wow. Fascinating for those who are a bit new to this and maybe are unsure about this hypnosis thing. Could you share a bit about what's actually happening and what it feels like to be in a hypnotic state and whether we're actually going into another brainwave frequency?

Steve Burgess 8:15

One thing we always want to emphasize as hypnotherapist is the naturalness of trance. Trance is a totally natural process. We all go into trance every single day, at least 24 times a day, when we daydream, when we go on automatic pilot in the car and we're driving without realizing it, when we're watching a movie, when we're reading a book, all of these states are trance states when we meditate. Meditation is trance. So hypnosis, trance is a totally natural experience. It's nothing you know. When somebody is in trance, they're not in a coma, they're not under anesthetic, they're not asleep. May have their eyelids closed, but they know what's happening. They can still hear sounds and react to sounds everything else. So when we're in trance, we just relax, primarily. It's a form of relaxation, really, what that trance does? It allows us to touch into the deeper mind, the subconscious mind, and yes, the brainwave states start to slow down, and we move into deeper states of brainwave states, so and by doing a gentle relaxation or a gently meditative process, we were able to sort of let the conscious mind, the thinking mind, just take a back seat for a little while. It's still there. We can still we're always thinking and analyzing in trance, but it's almost as if it just lets the subconscious come through, which is the deeper mind, the powerhouse of the mind. And my belief, after doing this work for so long, I believe we all have a higher self, and my belief is that the subconscious mind either is our higher self or is intimately connected to the higher self. So when we're working with the subconscious, it has a wonderful wisdom, an innate wisdom. It knows where we need to go to Clear problems. It knows how to do that. And if, as hypnotherapists and regression therapists were able to let the subconscious do the work, it does so beautifully.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:20

And when we spoke the last time and we finished the episode, I remember you said that, you know, I have so many more stories, and you might be interested in this, because I see that you are addressing our galactic connection and extraterrestrials on your channel. And so we thought that it could be interesting to have another episode. And from what I understand, you have also had a television show where you have addressed this, where it was a family or several individuals that claim to be abducted. And I guess it seems like people have been abducted, they are not fully aware of it, like they have a sense that something is off and timing, that they've lost time, perhaps. And it seems like it's only like in a deep trance or regression or or meditation that these memories are coming up. And it seems like that was the case for you. So could you share those stories.

Steve Burgess 11:21

Yeah, it was a fascinating case, basically, when somebody, when a person is has an abduction experience and maybe even a contact experience, the extraterrestrials or aliens. I don't like the word aliens, but extraterrestrials, they tend to wipe the conscious mind so that the person or persons can't remember very much, if anything, of the experience, but they can't wipe the subconscious. And so hypnosis, if it's done in the right way, is an ideal way to uncover these forgotten and repressed memories. And what happened in this case, a TV producer, this is, this is, they were creating a TV show on Sky called the real 4400 and that's still on YouTube now, where a family in England thought that they'd had something happen to them. They remembered seeing a spacecraft, but they didn't know what had happened. And basically, they went for lunch one day, and as they were driving home from the restaurant, a spaceship came right down alongside of the car, started shining lights into the car. They all felt an amazing feeling of euphoria and excitement and love. And then all of a sudden, at the speed of light, the spaceship just rocketed off and disappeared. And they all felt really flat and disappointed. And of course, all they could do all the way home was talk about this extraordinary experience. They arrived home to find that the journey, which should have taken 20 minutes had taken an hour and 20 minutes, so they'd lost an hour of their lives, and they knew something had happened in that hour. They just didn't know what it was. And they were so troubled by this. They were upset. It was a young mom, Rachel. The name was she had two young sons, about nine and 10 years old, and her mom, Rachel's mom, and I mean, as they were talking to the TV cameras, they were crying. It was so upsetting. The boys were getting nightmares and anxieties. They all knew something had happened, but they didn't know what. So the producer said, Would I regress Rachel the mom to see if we could open up what had happened that day, and so on. T on with the cameras rolling, I guided her back in. I guided her into trance, back to remembering being in this restaurant and leaving the restaurant. That's a common way that we do it. We go back before the events and bring the person through. And she then remembered what actually happened. And what happened was the spacecraft came alongside the car, but it took the car up out into the sky with it, in some way. They were taken out of the spacecraft. They probably were floated out. And I have another story I can share about a young girl where this happened another time, if you like. But they were taken into the spacecraft, which was very dark inside. They didn't see the beings inside they were they kept themselves behind a screen. But Rachel said, the the communicating telepathically with me, and they're telling me it's going to be okay. They're not going to harm us. All they want to do is check things out. And she said, and she had a big smile on her face as she's laid in trance experiencing this, and she said, there are lights like orbs, which are coming around us. And. Moving up and down around our bodies as if almost like they're X raying us in some way with these orbs. And so she just laid there, fairly blissful, really, at this stage. And then suddenly she became tense. Suddenly she started to cry, and she said, No, not the boys, not the boys, because the lights were about to go near them, and then she relaxed, and she said, Oh, it's okay. They're telling me they're not going to hurt the boys. They're not going to hurt us. All they're doing is checking things out. So this went on for a little while with these lights going around them. Then they were put back into the car. The car was lured back onto the road, and she carried on driving on the road, and the spacecraft shot off at the speed of light. So of course, what they'd remembered was the beginning where the spacecraft came down, and then the end, when the spacecraft left. The relief that that family had knowing that this had happened to them, that last they knew something had happened. They weren't going mad. They weren't imagining weird things. So on one level, it really helped them just to know that and to let go of the anxieties. The boys and the family were featured on TV show some years later, which I've watched, and they look completely different. They were talking normally about it. They were quite happy. There was no anxiety there. It had helped them to let go of the angst after the show, after we put after we'd filmed it. The producer asked me, he said, So how confident are you that that was real? Now, at the time, I said, I'm looking for certain signs in in regression, there's a lot of signs I looked for I feel it was a real regression. Rachel wasn't fantasizing. She wasn't creating false memories. But so for me, at the time, I said I believe she's I'm 90% sure that was real over the years, as I've come to think about it, I'm 100% sure that they had a real contact experience. And one question you people say, Oh, well, all these people are making this up. Why would a normal family living in the north of England want to make up a story where they go onto a spacecraft for what benefit would they do that? Because what usually happens if people share the abduction or contact experiences, they are belittled and ridiculed, and some cases, their lives are destroyed by coming out in that way. So there was no benefit to them for coming out with this story. So for me, this is very, very real Janneke.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:42

Did they experience it multiple times, and was there an awareness of what kind of species that abducted them?

Steve Burgess 17:50

No, there was no awareness at all. They couldn't see the beings, and they didn't sort of show themselves. So for whatever reason, they kept themselves back. But sometimes, as we know they do. I mean, I had a young girl years ago, was about 15, and her mother brought her to me because she was having all sorts of problems. She couldn't fit in at school. She couldn't concentrate, she was anxious. Her head was all over the place, generally, and her subconscious. I asked her subconscious, what's the cause of this lack of focus and anxiety, etc? And it guided her back to when she was a young girl, about seven or eight years old, staying at her grandparents house and sleeping over and what she started to remember in the regression was being put to bed by grandma, by granny. And then the light started to appear outside her door, a bedroom door, and shining through under the door. So she opened the door and there was a being there. Now she said it was like a Michelin man. It was a big blobby sort of a thing with a big smile. And she said, it came over to her, and he said, I'm your friend. And it held her hand, and he said, we're going to go for a journey. And she this little girl, was excited. She was she felt it was really nice place to be, a nice thing to happen to her, because this being was was giving us some nice vibes, you could say. And he said, we're going for a journey. And as they looked out the window, she could see a spacecraft hovering outside the bedroom window some way off. She said, He takes my hand, and we actually move through the wall. We fly through the wall, and we fly through over to the spacecraft. She said, it's amazing. She said, I'm flying. It's incredible. She gets into the spacecraft, and then it all goes wrong. This being moves off, and some other smaller, more standard, I would guess, gray type beings. Her turn up, and they started to experiment on her. So they type, strapped her down onto onto a table, and they started to they injected something into her eye, they cut they dug in something into her arm and a leg. She had a lot of pain, and she said they can't understand why I'm why I'm feeling pain, because they and then they give us something like a medicine to knock her out, and they do some sort of bits and pieces of medical work on her, including, I think, implanting some implants in her body. And then they left her to come round in a big room with cushions. She always remember the cushions before they brought her backs into her bed, and then she started to cry, and a granny came up to see what was the what was the problem? And as Granny is comforting her, she sees one of the extraterrestrials moving away from her, saying, we'll see you again in the future. So that wasn't a good one.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:56

When she did the regression, did she feel a release

Steve Burgess 21:01

she felt. Now I will say two things, this was very early in my career, so nowadays I would have probably done an even better job, because I know more about this. I would have done work to release the implants, for example, and to because my understanding now often, if somebody is contacted once, it happens again, and sometimes more than once. So what I would be looking for now would be further experiences of a similar nature to release the trauma of it. That was the what we're doing in the first session. I would do it differently now, but she did feel a lot better when she left. She felt a lot more at peace and calmer, but my sense is there would be more to do, and

Jannecke Øinæs 21:44

you've never seen her since

Steve Burgess 21:47

no mom never brought her back. So, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 21:51

it's interesting. I mean, it shows a pattern that I've heard of before, and Steven Spielberg made this serious, taken many, many years ago. And it also showed that this family was taken again and again, and that they showed up for the children as these puppets or, you know, kind beings. And then it was like a bit darker coming to the spacecraft. That's something for you to watch. But it seems like these abduction programs have ended. Some are saying, Actually, I don't know if you have thought about, you know, the development of this in the later years, if that has been of your interest since this come up in your work,

Steve Burgess 22:40

yeah, well, it's changed in a different way. Yannick and I remember we talked about this when we met last time in that I'm not getting, I think any at all. Now I can't remember the last time I had an abduction experience in a session, but what has been happening is clients have been coming who have had past lives on other planets, who have been reborn here on earth as Starseeds, and both me and my team for a number of months at the end of 23 when we met right through half of 2020 24 we had client after client after client coming for therapy, finding that they'd had past lives as other beings on other planets, and they couldn't fit in on Earth. That's one thing. So a lot of these people were people who, all through the childhoods, could never really function properly at school, and life here on Earth, on Planet asylum, didn't make sense. So they've always struggled to fit in, and they can't understand the way that we live in a way down here. So many of them are very sensitive people, and what appears to have been happening, they've been they've been reborn here. And as we know, we all choose to be born, and we all choose to be reborn after over different lifetimes, but they've chosen to be here. They think they've been sent here, but actually, of here at the moment, in order to bring a higher energy onto planet Earth, in order to help to raise the vibrations. So it's almost like around the world, these candles are being lit everywhere by these star seeds coming down to help with what I believe is the Great Awakening which is going on on earth now.

Jannecke Øinæs 24:26

What is the story that amazed you the most when it comes to those kinds of experiences? And I'm thinking then of experiences living on another planet, like I get super curious, right there.

Steve Burgess 24:39

Okay well, actually, I had a client who from Oslo yesterday, lovely lady, very spiritual lady, she does a lot of spiritual work, and she's gone back into a past life, on in on Lyra or the Lyran sort of stuff. System, I think it would be, I'm not an astrologer, so astronomer, so and she's gone back into a past life a couple of times there. One of them was yesterday, where what happened is life on Lyra was very beautiful, a very beautiful planet. The beings, there are different races of beings. She said that some of the beings are sort of like lion headed type beings. It's almost like they have lion heads and lion body, or physical bodies that are lionish,

Jannecke Øinæs 25:30

that they're walking up the legs.

Steve Burgess 25:33

No, I think it's almost like, I think there was sort of yeah on two, sorry, yes on two legs with a lion head, almost, which sounds weird, I know, but and there are other beings, and she was a sort of, more of a furry, more of an elf, fish type being, who was involved with natural processes in terms of helping the environment to grow. And she's saying that, you know, we all communicate telepathically. There's great love, there's great wisdom, there's a great amount of sharing, of really connected community, and everything was very beautiful, until some Reptilian beings turn up, and the reptilians, just out of the blue, attack the planet and start to destroy everything that they've created. So she manages to escape with the aid of a one of the lion beings who helps her to escape and gets her on a spaceship and gets her out of there. But basically, the planet appears to have been destroyed, or the maybe not the planet itself, but the whole way of life and the beings on that planet of being, you know, destroyed and massacred. So she then went onto another planet and was able to do some healing. For a while, she felt there were arturians that were helping her, and they then took her on board a spaceship and did some healing to release the trauma of what had happened. And it wasn't just the trauma of, you know, her near death experience, you could say, nearly being killed by these Reptilian beings. It was the trauma of the whole way of life on a planet being completely destroyed for no reason by sheer brutality and the shock of that and the the wrongness of it, because it all felt so wrong for her, because we were living at such higher in such higher vibrations. And so she manages to sort of start clawing her way back. But ultimately, unfortunately, these reptilians are continuing to look for them and to cause havoc. And actually, in the spaceship, which she is that she get you get shot down and she gets killed. So that was only yesterday, in a session from yesterday with her,

Jannecke Øinæs 27:56

wow, wow. There's a lot of things going on in the stars, and what I find interesting is that it's so much happening. I mean, I've heard other stories before about this, and we are on earth, are like, we're just on Earth, but those in the stars are like, traveling to different stars and planets, and are so aware of each other. And still, a lot of us are like, I don't know if there's anything out there. I know, yeah, if you think that there is, though.

Steve Burgess 28:26

I mean, I think anybody who believes that there's only one Earth with one, you know, we're the only planet that has life on it. I think people who believe that must be ignorant or stupid. I really do. You know, there are so many millions and millions and millions of planets out there. You know, how can we say that there's only one planet that has life on it? And I think, but just taking it further from that, when you listen to people who claim to have had abduction or contact experiences, they're very real. I mean, again, as a hypnotherapist friend of mine in the UK, who I've trained in my regression system, a lovely man. He's an ex carpenter. He's in his 80s. He's got big hands, you know, as you've been used to doing carpentry for most of his life, and he's become a Hypnotherapist. He and his family had a contact experience some years ago when they were driving along and the and they were taken out and into the spacecraft, etc, so, and he has no reason to pretend that this is real. There's no benefit for him. And he's a totally honest gentleman. He wouldn't make up this ridiculous story about having contact experience with extraterrestrials. So you know, when people rubbish it and just say, Oh, the all these people are imagining it. That's too simplistic an explanation. Listen to these people, talk with them, and you'll actually find that these experiences I've really believe are very, very true in most cases.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:59

Hmm, yeah, I think definitely that there will be more information about this coming. I think we're in the time where disclosure is happening on so many levels. Speaking about past lives, isn't it really power parallel lives, because everything happens now and time is such an interesting thing, so we're actually not moving back. These lives are happening similar simultaneously as we're sitting here now, because we are multi dimensional,

Steve Burgess 30:42

it's really hard to say. First of all, I don't think any on Earth. We don't understand the nature of time. It's too mind blowing. And as you say, there could be this probability that everything is happening all at the same time. What I will say, from the perspective of the work I do, it's as though the subconscious treats time in a linear fashion, and I believe that it treats time in a linear fashion, because we're in a human body, and I think we have to understand the limitations that we have as human beings.

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Steve Burgess 32:17

also, in order to clear the traumas from the past. It's easier for us to understand that we just, there's a line of time, you know, from the present back into the past. And I think the subconscious just, that's the way it does it. So I think it makes it maybe simpler for us, because otherwise it may be too complicated to try to work out where is all this happening. From a therapeutic perspective, the aim is to release the trauma wherever it's come from. So it doesn't matter whether time is linear or whether time is happening all at the same time. It's not important. What we're aiming to do is release the trauma. So my sense is the subconscious is, let's just do this in a simple way, a way that you can understand, because the most important thing is to let go of the trauma. Parallel lives, though. Now you see, when I'm asking, when I have my I have it, I've created this regression system where I use this technique, where I ask the subconscious to take control of a finger. So my client is in trance, and one of the fingers starts to move all by itself. And I use that as a yes, no signal. So once my client is in trance, are there any traumas in this lifetime, the present life, causing the issues we're working on? If we get a yes, we know we've got to do some work in this life. Are there any past lives? If we get a yes, past lives, we know we've got past lives work. Are there any ancestral traumas? Because we can inherit ancestors, ancestral trauma. And this is one of the things, one of the features in the new book, because obviously, I'm so well known for past life regression. You know my previous book, The Power of past life regression, is dozens of stories of my clients past life experiences in order to heal them. But I wanted to give a bigger picture in the new book of regression. So I'm talking more, featuring a lot more stories, not just of past lives, but also ancestral traumas from my clients, ancestors. So I'm asking those questions, yes for this life past life, ancestors, lives. And so we get a diagnosis of where the issues can come from. But occasionally I'll get a no for everything. No, no, no. Well, the issue has got to come from somewhere. You know, you don't catch obsessive compulsive disorder by sitting next to somebody on the bus who's anxious. You don't catch a serious illness or a physical problem in some way. All, everything, all of our issues are caused by locked in for. Feelings and traumas from the past. But if the subconscious is saying no, no, no, I would then have a few extra questions. I'll actually say, Are there any spirit attachments causing these issues? And sometimes it will say yes. Couple of days ago, I was working with a young man in Canada who has ADD attention deficit disorder and a particular form, which is called the executive function disorder. And I asked these questions, anything in this life causing the ADD, no any past lives, no, any ancestors lives, no. Are there any spirit attachments? Yes. So basically, he had spirit attachments. He had four of them, which were causing this dysfunctional state. So we released the spirits and let them go. And he certainly felt a lot clearer and a lot more at ease at the end of the session. I'm going to see him in a couple of weeks time to see how he's been going. So spirit attachment. But then, if that's a no, are there any parallel lives? And sometimes the subconscious says yes. So the subconscious treats differentiates, makes a difference between this life, past life, ancestors, lives and parallel lives. So it treats them separately. Again, I believe, in order to keep it simple for a mere English hypnotherapist who's got a very simple mind, so parallel lives come through very occasionally. And the concept of parallel lives from a therapy perspective is that a part of our soul, our soul is so big it can be can split off and being alive in more than one body at any one time. And the concept is that it's alive, but part of our soul is on another planet, somewhere, you could say, or in another part of the universe, in another body, in another life, which is connected to us energetically. And if something traumatic is happening in that other, that parallel life, it will be affecting us now. And so what we do is we then in trance, in regression, we connect to our soul, that other part of our soul, and we relive and we live the trauma that is happening now, and we release the trauma, and it gets our parallel soul healed, and it also heals us now in the present. So that's the concept of parallel lives from a therapeutic perspective,

Jannecke Øinæs 37:41

fascinating. Can everything be healed? Do you think?

Steve Burgess 37:47

Well, I think everything can be healed. You've just got to find the right way to do it. Now that doesn't mean they say that regression will heal everything, because there are quite a few factors here. Some people are not very good at hypnosis, and if you're not very good in trance, then regression tends not to work. But I'm estimating, usually, if people do the work and enough sessions, because it isn't always done in one, two or three sessions, it often needs regular therapy sessions over time to fully release the traumas I'm experiencing. Usually, about 80% of people get better if they can regress, but if they can't regress, then my plan B is EFT, is the wonderful tapping process to see if we can use that, as you mentioned earlier, NLP, or it may be that some of the therapy system is better for them. And the wonderful thing now is we live in a world with so many extraordinary therapy processes and the knowledge that therapy can help us, I would say to people, you know, if one thing doesn't work, try something else and keep doing the work. So from my perspective, I believe everything is curable.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:59

I find it interesting that we are affected by past lives, and I'm wondering, are we all affected by past lives? And then I'm curious, why is it certain lives that affect us and not others? Because in the book I saw that you you believe that we have 1000s of lives, and you can just imagine if we were affected by 1000s of lives with all those issues and traumas, and I've probably been murdered hundreds of times, that will be difficult. So, so what is sort of your take on that why certain lives are affecting us and whether we're all being affected by past lives.

Steve Burgess 39:43

First of all, I believe that the vast majority of people have have been around here for quite a long time and have past lives, either on earth or on other planets. And so what that means is that we're all affected by past lives. In some way, however, because we've lived so many 1000s of past lives, in most cases, as you say, if they all ripened, the Buddhist word is ripened, if they all ripened in this present life, we would never get out of bed in the morning, because it would be just so much trauma inside us. So it appears that over many lifetimes, our journey is of a journey of healing and of growing as a soul. And one way in which we grow as a soul is by releasing the traumas of the past in order to become less reactive and in order to learn and to understand about living life on Earth and being a soul. So it appears that only certain past lives will ripen in this lifetime in order to move us on, in order to help us to grow to those sort of higher levels spiritually. Also, it has to be remembered that sometimes we're not always here for ourselves. We're also here for others, especially those others who are close to us in our soul group. And what that means is sometimes it isn't about our learning, it's about somebody else's learning, who is close to us that they have to learn something, and we are actually helping them to learn. So it may be that we are suffering some traumas in this life related to somebody else. This is about them learning so that they can move on in their journey as a soul and carry on growing. So it isn't that, you know, we have just this great mass of past lives which are all over the place that have to that suddenly hit us? No, there's a great degree of intelligence behind this, a phenomenal amount of wisdom, which I don't think we can even understand or begin to understand. Part of that is what happens before we are reborn in between. In between lives is looking at the next life that we're about to live, and sort of generally planning it out, not in a major amount of depth, but sort of setting a sort of a rough template for the life and understanding why we're going to be experiencing these things in the in the life to come. So this is all done in a very wise way. We have to remember we are eternal, and this is a long process. It isn't just a process that takes place over two or three lifetimes. It can take many 1000s of lifetimes. That's my experience, anyway, from from the work that I'm doing.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:38

What about addictions? I mean, addictions can be really difficult to work with therapists. Many therapists are saying that that is difficult when and especially if it has gone very far. Do you have experiences of how past lives, regression have helped alcoholism, smoking and drugs, people who are suffering from that?

Steve Burgess 43:01

Yes, the phrase we have is that all addictive substances are a means of anesthetizing inner emotional pain. So it doesn't matter what the substance is, whether it's chocolate or food or alcohol or cigarettes or drugs or marijuana or so therapy or whatever, whatever, all of these things are ways for a person to soften their inner emotional pain. Because what usually happens if you take that thing away, their emotional pain comes right up. And I've worked with so many different types of addictions over the years, so many of them. Let me show you two actually, one both dramatic in their own way. One of them was a lady who came to me, this is one of the most rapid successes I have ever had in 33 years. She was a functional alcoholic. She was a social worker, probation officer in England, and every she was at work. Every day she arrived home at 1800 hours. Started drinking by nine o'clock. She was pissed. She was just drunk, absolutely out of it, full bottle of wine and maybe half a bottle of brandy at the same time, she had no life. She felt awful most of the time. She had depression, she had asthma, a skin looked terrible. She was overweight, and she came to me to prove that I couldn't help her. So a friend of hers said, Go and see this Burgess chap, and he may be able to help you. And she said, No way, hypnotherapist, What a load of rubbish that's not going to help me. And a friend pushed her so she said, Okay, I'll go and see him, intending to prove that this bearded idiot couldn't help her. So one of the questions we always ask is regression therapy. So tell me about your. Childhood and about traumas in your life, and there was very little yanika, she's had a very average lifetime, no real traumas. Okay, so I guided her into trance, and she went back into a past life, but she couldn't see the past life. She could just feel it, and she just cried for an hour in my chair, she just cried and sobbed for an hour. There were no images, no understanding of what was happening. She came out of trance. She was shocked. I mean, she was a, you know, very closed down woman. She didn't let her emotions come out very easily, and she couldn't understand what had happened. She has never drunk a drop of alcohol since that day, and this is over 30 years ago. And she got her life back. She started swimming, she lost weight, she her asthma, reduced, her skin problems went she got into a relationship, funnily enough, with another alcoholic, and she got her life back. And we did more regressions. And in the other regressions, she she saw herself in the First World War in the trenches as a male soldier, dying in the trenches, she lived on. She went as a sailor on a big old Spanish galleon, big sailing ship there, and she died on the sailing ship as a sailor, but she was eating rotten ships biscuits, and she could taste the biscuits in the session. In another session, she was in Roman times being killed as a Christian in an amphitheater being torn to death by lions and things. So her alcoholism was fixed so quickly. It took my breath away. I wish that happened with every client. I'd be a millionaire. Just charge massive amounts of money for one session. Everybody gets better, but usually we're having to sort of do deeper work again. One of the more dramatic stories about an addiction was a gentleman who came to me to stop smoking years ago. Now, this gentleman was an ex sportsman. He was a professional sportsman, but he came to me in his 40s, and he'd retired, he'd started smoking, and he couldn't stop. Now I just used standard hypnotherapy in the first session, guided him into trance, fed his subconscious mind with suggestions about being a non smoker, about being smoke free, and he came out of trance, and he felt great. I don't want a cigarette. Felt fantastic. And then three weeks later, I walk into my office, 9am and the phone is ringing, and I picked the phone up, and this lady said, Steve, it's me, and it was his wife. And I knew his wife because I treated her for anxieties sometime previously and would cure the anxieties one of the past life, she was a witch, by the way, and died as a witch. And she said, so she she wanted him to come to me because she knew I could help him with the smoking addiction. I said, Yeah, how are you doing? She said, Well, it's about my husband. I said, Yeah, how's it been last few weeks? She said, Well, he doesn't want a cigarette. He hasn't had a cigarette, but day after day, he's become more and more grumpy and more and more angry. Until last night, we sat down for dinner with the children, and I said something to him, and it flipped him. He went berserk. He started screaming at me and ranting at me and shouting and banging his fist. And then he became even more angry. He swept all of it, all of the dishes, off the table. He started to smash cups and crockery around the kitchen. He's pulling things out the cupboards and smashing things. He then started to wrench and rip off the cupboard doors from our kitchen cabinets and smash them. He then got a big hammer and he started to smash the tiles on the floor. We've just we've just had a new kitchen put in. He went berserk. He said, I was terrified. I grabbed the children. We ran to the car. We jumped in the car, we locked the doors. As I'm driving down the road, he's running behind us with a hammer screaming at the top of his head, at top of his voice. She said, I spent the night. Last night at my parents were the children. Steve, does this usually happen if somebody comes to see you to stop smoking. No, what on earth? I've never heard anything like it. I said, have you? Have you spoken to him today? She said, Yes, he just spent all last night crying on the on the kitchen floor. He is so ashamed of himself. I said, I need to see him and see him very quickly, and I'll give him his due. I'll give him his credit. He came to see me the next day, and he was he felt so ashamed and so guilty. I asked his subconscious, when we talked and I took him into trance, what was the cause of this enormous anger? There were four past life. Janika And we worked through all of the fast four past lives over several sessions. In one of the past lives, he was in the army in the Second World War, fighting as a soldier, and then suddenly a bomber dropped, and it had killed all of his comrades, all of his colleagues, but not him. And he felt so guilty and angry he couldn't come to terms with it. I'll be honest. I wrote about this case in the power of past life regression, so I can't remember all of those the other past lives, but we cleared all the other past lives, and then we did another smoking stop smoking session, and then he was able to stop smoking without any problems. So now that's very unusual, but it just shows you the depth of his emotional pain, and he was what I call a psychological smoker. So there are three aspects to smoking. It's a habit. Most smokers get into the habit. You know, always have a cup of tea, have a cigarette. Always have a meal. Have a cigarette. Always get upset. Have a cigarette after sex. Have a cigarette, etc, etc. And most, most smokers do that. The second aspect of smoking is the addiction. It's an addictive substance. It's one of the most addictive substances known to man. I've worked with heroin addicts. It's easier to get people off heroin sometimes than it is off nicotine, and most smokers get that but the third aspect, the emotional aspect of smoking, it's hardly ever known and looked at my experience having worked with literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of smokers Over the years, about one in 10 of smokers are psychological smokers, which means that their addiction is more of an emotional nature than just an addiction. And with that person, that's when the regression comes in, because that can release the underlying emotional trauma so effectively, it then makes stopping smoking so much easier.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:04

Interesting. The last story I would love to hear about is, I think it was a woman who had cancer and six months left to live, and that you actually cured her. I mean, just imagine how many people who are grateful for your work. I mean, all your stories is just incredible.

Steve Burgess 52:28

It was quite amazing. This particular story, so it wasn't cancer. She had a she had tumors growing on her liver. Now, the tumors were not cancerous, but it was a very rare liver disease called focal nodular hyperplasia. Nobody's ever heard of it because it's so rare. In the UK, there's only about 12 cases at any one time. Hers was the most aggressive of all the people in the UK who had it at that time, and very few people survived this disease. What happens is the tumors grow on the liver to the size of grapefruits, and that causes a lot of pain because it pushes all the internal organs out of place. It also stops the liver from functioning properly. So she so they become she became toxic. So she arrived at my office, and she had to be helped up the stairs to my office by two people, and she sat in my chair. She was a young woman in well, mid 30s, attractive woman, ex police officer, and she looked like a stick insect. She was thin, and she honestly, my heart went out to yanika. She looked so dreadful, and she was in pain all the time. She was on morphine to get rid of the pain. She did not what. Didn't know what day the week it was. She couldn't do anything. She spent most of the day laying on a sofa feeling ill. She had a young, three year old daughter. She couldn't do anything with her daughter. She couldn't eat very much because she just vomited it all back up again. And she sat in front of me and she said, My specialist said, I've got six months to live. There's nothing else you can do to help me. My consultant can't do anything, so there's no pressure there for Burgess is there? But I was lucky, because I talked to her about the emotional causes of illness, and every illness has emotional causes, including cancer. And in fact, in the new book, I do write about a client who had lip cancer, and there were two past lives causing that lip cancer, we worked to release the past lives. She went away, cleaned up her life a bit which was necessary, cleaned up her act, and five months later, she wrote to me to say, I've been to the hospital. They cannot find a trace of cancer in my body. So I'm not claiming to cure cancer. Every illness has emotional causes. So if you're able to work with the emotional causes, you can release them, and then the body can start to heal you. So with this lady, I explained Emma, her name was the emotional causes, and she said, anything to help me get better. In our first session, I guide her into trance. I then just check things out. There were going to be two past lives we needed to work with, and some childhood trauma. But in our first session, I just gave us some post hypnotic suggestions, about feeling better, about her body starting to heal itself now, about being able to come back to life. And she was able to leave my office looking 10 times better. The pain had gone from 10 out of 10 to four out of 10, just in half an hour of trance, and she was able to walk up my office unaided, and then we began the process of healing the body, lot of sessions to release traumas from the past two past lives. One was she was a Native American Squaw who was killed in a raiding party. Another tribe came into her village, and a Native American brave came up behind her and grabbed her and stabbed her with a dagger in the back and killed her. And of course, guess where the dagger went? Right where the liver is the second past life Second World War a young Polish teenage boy she's bayoneted to death by the Nazis and thrown into a river to die again. Guess where the bayonets went into the liver? So she's brought that energy into this present lifetime, in her energy field. So we released that we did, releasing from a lot of therapy, a lot of childhood stuff, and she got better and better and better. She got stronger. She started to get a life back the pain. She could control the pain with her mind. I taught herself hypnosis, and she was able to eat she I mean, after the first session, she came back a week later, and she just let go of morphine. She didn't need it anymore. She just didn't need the morphine. Her mind was starting to heal her body. And then one day, several months later, she came to my office and she said, I saw my consultant last week, and he wants to do the surgery again that he's done prior, previously, now, twice before it had been a total failure. A surgery was to try to inject a plastic tube up to the liver to insert coils and crystals onto the tumors to kill off the blood supply to the tumors, to kill off the tumors. But both times, it had been a disaster because she had to drink a dye so that the surgeon could see on screen what was happening when he worked on the liver, and the dye made her sick. So she spent the whole of the operation retching and vomiting, and he could and he was trying to do a delicate operation with a body that's jerking. The first time the liver itself was damaged, the second time the gallbladder was damaged so badly it had to be removed. And both times, she spent weeks in hospital afterwards, and both times the operation took, like, three or four hours. So he'd said to her, you're now strong enough to try the operation again because of the regression of therapy work that we'd done. And I said, we'll do the operation in hypnosis. And they realized what I just said to her, where did those words come from? Did I say that? She said, Oh, that's great. I'll have a word with a consultant. And he agreed. So to cut a long story short, and this is I begin the book with this story of doing the surgery. I went to the hospital with her. I took her into trance at the beginning of the in the operating theater. I stayed with her throughout the whole of the operation. We anesthetized her body so she didn't need any anesthetic whatsoever, so she felt no pain. She I floated her up out of her body. I disassociated her to go up into the sky with me. And throughout the whole of the surgery, I guided her on a journey around the stars, because I thought, Let's get her away from the body. The surgery was it just went so smoothly. The only problem that anybody had was me, because I don't like blood, and I write about that in a hopefully humorous way in the book, because I really struggled at the end of the surgery, it took about 90 minutes. It was a total success. The surgeon turned to me said, I have never seen anything like this in my career, it was like operating on a dead body. There were no defensive reflexes. Give me one of your cards. We need to talk about this. Well, I'm still waiting for that telephone call 29 years later, but that lady is now 29 years past her die by date, and she even had. Had a child some years later, quite extraordinary. She's the most she's the bravest woman I've ever met, and it was so I'm honored to have worked with her in that way.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:10

Yeah. I mean, I think this is coming more and more hypnotherapy around the whole world, going into the subconsciousness. Many people are doing it. I've had several on the show, and I think it's so effective. And yet, from my perspective and belief, there is that element there where perhaps something I don't know is not meant to I don't hope this is provocative, but sometimes there could be a soul plan there, I believe, where something is supposed to happen. Let's say there was a soul who wanted to experience just something for a short while. Maybe they were here of service to someone else for a short time. You know, losing a child. Maybe that child just wanted to be there for a short time because they had a soul agreement with a mother. They were going to experience an abortions, things like that. And I remember there was a lady who lost her son, six years old, in cancer. And I think she tried everything. She was so very spiritual, and that son died, and she was like, maybe there's a mystery there, that there's a higher reason for something not being healed as well. So I just wanted to throw that in there as well, and maybe you could share your perspectives on that.

Steve Burgess 1:01:35

I think there's a couple of things Jannecke and I agree that sometimes I said earlier, sometimes our the plan of our life is to be there for others, and it's all about learning. My sense is from what you've said, if that is the case for somebody, then actually the regression won't work. So it's not that everything works every time. It may be that their subconscious knows for some reason, they have to hold on to this, then it isn't appropriate for them to fully heal it, in which case the regression will work. Because obviously, when we're in trance, you know, we don't just automatically do everything that the therapist says, The subconscious is there all the time with its innate wisdom, and if it knows it's not right for this person to heal, then it won't let it won't let them heal. Having said that, my opinion is it's not good for us to take trauma into the future lives, because if we don't release the trauma now, we've only got to pick it up again in a future lifetime. So I believe doing the work now will release the trauma, so that not only does our life now become more healed, but also we don't take those traumas into future lives and they'll affect us again. So you're quite right. There is often a higher plan to these things, which we don't we don't always understand. We don't know exactly what is it about. But for me, as a jobbing hypnotherapist who wants people to live on Earth more freely and in a more balanced way, I think we have to assume that this trauma needs to be released, and we need to do our best to do that, because for me, being able to do that as a human being and to live more freely in the world, is also helping the world and humanity, the collective to develop as well. So as one person becomes more balanced, the collective unconscious becomes more balanced. That has to be good for humanity as a whole, and for the earth as a whole,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:41

that makes sense. I could sit here and speak for hours, Steve, and there's so many more questions and stories you could share, but the book is available out there, so go and grab it if you want to dive deeper. Guys, Steve, I have some questions I ask all my guests, and the first one is, what is self love, to you?

Steve Burgess 1:04:04

I talk a lot nowadays about doing the work I believe, as human beings, the more we work on ourselves, the the better it is, as I've just said, for the earth, for humanity as a whole, and for the earth as a as a collective. So for me, self love is about doing the work on myself in order to become more balanced. Because when I become more balanced, then I feel freer inside. And I think finding a sense of inner peace is a form of self love, I believe, and I'm obviously going to say this, because I'm a therapist, but I have been doing this a long time, and I've been around the block a few times. I believe that becoming more at peace with ourselves, we naturally then just settle into love, into the energy of love, we're more able to to be love, and to be love means we are in an energy. Of love for ourselves and for others. And I think that's perhaps a way I would answer that Jannecke,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:05

lovely, and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Steve Burgess 1:05:10

Again, it ties in with that is about becoming less reactive so that we can grow as a soul. And I believe we grow our souls through doing the work in different ways, in learning about ourselves spiritually. Now that may be about you know, one way is to release trauma so that we can become more at peace and we can grow souls. I believe that we are here to develop ourselves. So I talk to people about doing the work. Start living a more spiritual life. Start living a life which involves being love in some way, or at least just just bringing loving kindness into the world. In Buddhism, we used to call this meta, just bringing meta loving kindness into the world. Because when we're doing that, we are tapping into the natural, universal energy, which is love. And when we're in that energy of love, then things change. The world is a better place. I believe we send that energy out, and the whole energy of the earth will change as we live in that energy of loving kindness. So I think for me, that's what it's about, is about developing as a sort in order to be love, which sounds a little bit pretentious, and I don't mean to be, but

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:31

not at all. I always enjoy hearing the answers from my guests, because they're always different, but have a thread of the same as well. Steve, how can people connect with you? Maybe there, there are people who want to have a session or read your books or watch your videos.

Steve Burgess 1:06:51

Yeah. So my website, SteveBurgesshypnosis.com SteveBurgesshypnosis.com so there are clicks through there to my YouTube channel, Hypno, 4 all. I always like people to know about my YouTube channel, Hypno 4 all, h, y, p, n, o, the number four, a, l, l, I have 26 free hypnotherapy recordings on there to help people with all sorts of issues, which are anxieties, irritable bowel, etc, etc, even stop smoking and lose weight, and it's my way of giving back to the world. I've been so lucky with my career, and there are people who can't afford to have deeper therapy, but just doing standard hypnotherapy can be a very beneficial process. So and there are also interviews on there with members of my team. I have a team of regression therapists who I've trained who are great therapists, and we're discussing lots of different aspects of regression on there, including Spirit attachments and alien abduction stuff. And so there are a couple of live, past life regression videos, which I recorded with a member of my team to work on a phobia she had of deep, dark water, and she went into back into past lives and all over the place to clear it. Clear it. The new book, yes, the adventures of a hypnotherapist, Amazon, Barnes and Noble all booksellers sell it. I'm so happy with it because it gives such a wide spectrum of the work that I've done over the last 33 years, and I've tried to make it as quirky as shocking and as funny as possible, as well. Then the reviews I'm getting back, people are saying the nicest things. One reviewer said it is tea spittingly Funny, which I thought was a brilliant phrase. So the adventure of hypnotherapist, my first book is the power of past life regression, which I put a lot of my interviews on there as well. So people want to follow me. They can do that. And Instagram, of course, I'm on Instagram. I don't understand Instagram at all. Fortunately, my, uh, my fiance deals all with that with me. She puts everything on Instagram for me. But I am on Instagram. I think it's Steve Burgess hypnotherapy.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:00

Thank you so much, Steve and so congrats with your new book, and thank you so much for coming back to the show. It was a thrill, as always meeting and connecting with you.

Steve Burgess 1:09:09

Thank you so much for having me again. Jannecke, you're it's a real pleasure. It really is. Thank you.