Transition into Death: A Psychic Paramedic’s Witness to the Afterlife! With Sarah Grace

Sarah Grace 0:00

As a paramedic being there at the end of many, many people's lives, and my primary gift is clairvoyance. So in the 911 emergency, as people were dying, I was able to, like physically watch the progression of the soul as people transitioned into death. I always saw that the person that was transitioning was greeted either with by deceased loved ones. It's like a little pow wow, little family reunion. It's actually very joyous, and in traumatic instances, you'll be greeted by celestial or an angel. Never once did I see a soul exit their body and not be greeted by something or someone, even if it was a pet. Some people get greeted by pets. So just know that too. In some of the suicides that I've witnessed, there's kind of an in between. It's almost like they go to

Speaker 1 0:52

Why do we hear stories then about souls who are sort of lost.

Sarah Grace 0:58

Attachment. They are attached to something unresolved. Maybe they're stubborn, maybe they didn't want to die. Maybe they really like their house, whatever it is, again, nothing to fear. Yes, poltergeist can be real, and you don't even have to be scared of those guys. I don't know why they're always with books and candles and light flickering. I'm like, can you come up with something original? So funny, but you just take power away by asking it like, who are you? You know, do you have a name? Why are you here? How could like, is there a message? What is it that you need? Do you know that you're dead? Some of them don't know that they're dead, and usually they'll begin the process of transitioning.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:47

I have a favor to ask you. If you appreciate these conversations, then thank you so much for subscribing to my channel. Sarah Grace, a warm welcome back to the show.

Sarah Grace 1:59

Hello, Jannecke, thank you so much for having me back. It's nice to be here.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:03

It's really nice having you back. Sarah. I really appreciated our last episode, and we have so many new subscribers, and I wanted them also to get to know your story, because it's just incredible. Now you are a psychic paramedic. You've been working in one of California's busiest 911, systems. You've seen hundreds of souls leaving their bodies. You're an author journey into grace. You've just come out with a new book, and you're a speaker and a healer. And I can't wait to dive deep today about the afterlife and what happens when we die. Now, how do you feel our conversation today might expand people's consciousness,

Sarah Grace 2:49

really by grounding down and making things make sense. So as a paramedic, we are trained to handle real life emergencies. Make things make sense, and essentially, you know, fix whatever the issue is. So I have the ability to take awareness, higher level of awareness, of energetics, of consciousness, of medical intuition, of the world of energy healing, and distill it down in ways that can land for the everyday person. And since the world is so chaotic and there's so much happening, a lot of people are feeling very destabilized. They're needing something tangible to kind of hold on to to get through their day. And so we can address the the real kind of practical things in terms of life and integration and all of that, in addition to understanding, you know, death and transition and taking the fear away from that, so we can go in any direction, sister, wherever you want to go.

Jannecke Øinæs 3:54

Thank you. Well, so let me ask you, for those out there who really wants to believe in this, they're not totally sure whether there is an afterlife, or maybe they have lost someone and really yearn to see them again. Would you say it's absolutely 100% sure that they will meet their loved ones again, and that there is, in fact, an afterlife?

Sarah Grace 4:16

Oh, 100%. So as a paramedic, being there at the end of many, many people's lives. I also am very energetically sensitive, and my primary gift is clairvoyance. So I am able to see energy, and have since I was a kid. So in the 911 emergency as people were dying, I was able to, like, physically watch and energetically watch the progression of the soul as people transitioned into death. So I have physically been present and witnessed countless people die in acute and traumatic settings and some more hospice type things. So from the soul and energetic perspective, I always saw that the person that was transitioning was greeted either with by deceased loved ones, and for some reason, they're always hovering up in like the corner of the ceiling on the right side. I don't know why it's always on the right side, but it's like a little pow wow, little family reunion. It's actually very joyous and in traumatic instances of traumatic death, you'll be greeted by celestial or an angel. So I have 15 years, I don't I mean hundreds and hundreds of dead bodies, many actual, like acute transitions, where I was able to be present and witness what happens in death. Never once did I see a soul exit their body and not be greeted by something or someone, even if it was a pet. Some people get greeted by pets. So just know that too.

Jannecke Øinæs 5:53

v All right. So just to understand where you're coming from, what are your religious background, or did you have any spiritual background? And could you share a little bit about your childhood as well? Because I know that you started sort of opening up to these gifts when you were seven years old. So I'm curious what happened then.

Sarah Grace 6:15

So religious. I grew up in a very small conservative area of South Dakota. I was actually on a Native American Indian Reservation called Standing Rock, middle of nowhere, no internet, no outside connection or stability. Very conservative religious Christian background, whether it be Lutheran Catholic, we kind of bounced around, but to me, it's all kind of synonymous, and not a lot of open mindedness where I was at the time. So my experience at the age of seven, I woke up and began to see colors around people. It began with auric field and clairvoyance with me. Then I began to feel everybody's feelings and know things. Then I could see disease in people's bodies. And eventually it graduated to seeing spirits, both of Native Americans and of people that had died recently in the town. So I'm a little kid in the middle of nowhere with no internet, with super like conservative, religious family. And so I was thinking, this is normal, and I didn't understand. I wanted it to go away. But when I said something to my family, unfortunately, maybe it was fortunate. It was part of the curriculum my life path, if you will, but I was heavily shamed and condemned. They're essentially like, don't talk about that. You know, it's, it's sacrilegious. We'll send you away. It was a very significant, pivotal moment for me, because I internalized a sense of shame, I didn't understand why I was like this, right? I just was a kid who wanted to be like everybody else. So that was a very powerful moment, because internalizing a sense of toxic shame then led me into my healing journey, which was a long 25 year come to terms with process of shadow integration, trauma healing, beginning to understand energetics, beginning to open to my abilities in ways that make sense to me. And so that's a little bit about my history and where I come from. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:15

I mean, life tends to make sense more and more the older we're getting, at least that's the way it is for me. Now, I am curious, though, why seven? Do you understand now? Why all of a sudden these gifts started to come on come on board at seven?

Sarah Grace 8:33

Well, from birth to age seven, we're all wide open, little energy balls. So everybody is very open. You know, kids are super open. It's just kind of how it is at the age of seven is when the egoic infrastructure really forms in the sense of, I am like who we think we are, our families, belief structures, our environmental, you know, systems, we start to figure out, I like this, I don't like that. I believe this, I don't believe that. And that really anchors at the age of seven. So I was just kind of floating in this open energy, and then as I started to coalesce into like my self as like a little kid, I believe that's why it started to differentiate then

Jannecke Øinæs 9:17

now, Sarah, I read a chapter in your book journey into grace that really touched me deeply, and I wanted to ask whether you could share that today. For us, it was about this young woman named Taylor who tragically died in a car accident, and you actually saw her soul leaving her body and how she met an angel. And I it was so healing for me to read, and maybe it could be healing for others as well. So would you like to share that?

Sarah Grace 9:46

Oh, yeah for sure. So that, and I still remember where exactly that call was. I remember everything very viscerally. So we responded to automobile accident. It. Was a big Hummer versus a small Civic, a T bone. The driver was on the cell phone talking to she didn't know the girl who died didn't know she was talking to her fiance was waiting two blocks down at a restaurant, waiting to propose, and I didn't find that out till after, but a drunk driver, 20 year old kid in a big h2 or whatever, ran a red light, T boned, or knocked the car super far, and we had to do extrication draws of life, all of these things. But I my experience as an ultra sensitive as clairvoyant. I would get on scene of a 911 call, and everything would just slow down like The Matrix. I would expand out. Everything would get very quiet and begin to move very slowly. I would taste metal, and I still to this day, anytime death is near, that's my tell. I taste metal and I feel like I'm stuffed with cotton. It's a very interested, interesting, expanded sensation, where it's like you can't tell where your energy ends and the energy of the scene begins. So on a car accident with a fatality, there's a lot of logistics that happen. As far as firefighters, draws of life, police off. There's a lot of things that go with that. So I was able to feel and sense everything that was happening simultaneously. And the girl, the driver, she was obviously in the driver's seat in the the impact was so severe that her head and torso got thrown into the back seat, but her femurs below got pinned under the steering wheel that got crushed so she was unconscious and her head was really wobbly. I later found out that her neck had been snapped instantly, which sounds horrific, but it's an instant clean like she's not going to feel any pain. Let's put it that way, but my job is to secure her airway, stabilize her neck, make sure that you know, we can sustain her life as best as we're able as we extricate her from the vehicle. So I was breathing for her with what we call a bag valve mask through this window, holding her head and my personal experiences. I'm dealing with the logistics of this, the firefighters, the jaws of life, all of the intensity of that experience. You can smell gasoline, you smell the airbag powder, you can smell blood mixed with all of that. It's a very intense experience in the sensory way. And what happened, though, and this happened not just on this call. This was every single trauma call that I ran in a different way. It didn't always appear just like this, but it was very similar. So there's all of this chaos I'm working to stabilize all of a sudden, this energy, it just comes in. And I was working on her here, my hands were through the window, and it was just above where her chest was this. It looked like fireflies, and it started to form into this larger beam of light. And what happens is angels, at least in the way that I've seen them. They are a vibrational resonance. It is consciousness. So celestial frequency, angelic frequency. It is a very beautiful, nurturing, calm energy. It's not a winged creature. It's this energy of light that's spread, and it looks it usually is big. It's like anywhere from eight to 12 feet, usually a cobalt blue, kind of shimmering with silver. It's just this really beautiful energy. But it's silent and it's calm, and this energy just blanketed the entire scene. So my experience with clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience, all of the things, medium, all the things, is I'm now tuned into the energy, the soul of the girl. And initially she had been confused. Her soul was knocked out of her body, but she had been connected still by a little thread of life force, if you will. And she had been attached there once this the angel came, you know, she was looking at me working on her body from at the top of the car. And she was confused. She was like, What are you doing? Like, I don't understand what's going on. So clairvoyant, I were clear I would be able to telepathically communicate to souls that had just died or had some trauma. Even though we were working on their body, I could communicate to. Allopathically. So here I'm working on this. I see her all confused, floating here, and then the angelic presence begins to open and blanket the scene, at which time she's all confused. She's like, What the heck? And she turns and it's just this really beautiful energy. And I watched them eventually embrace and then they disappear. At that time, I knew that she had had died like she was gone. Her soul had transitioned. We still have a job to do. So we had to extricate her from the vehicle, start CPR, innovate her, get her to the hospital. At which time she was pronounced dead, and so that is kind of the total sum experience of what I lived repeatedly for 15 years in different contexts.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:52

Yeah, thank you for sharing that in such detail. I almost see it like a movie, and I'm reminded of that film, The Sixth Sense with the Bruce Willis. I mean, it just sounds exactly like that,

Sarah Grace 16:06

yeah, I say that all the time. I'm like, I see dead people, yeah, all the time. Yeah, right, yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:13

When you saw her, how did she look like as a soul?

Sarah Grace 16:18

So you look like you do as your body, it's just that I can see through you. So the soul, what you have to understand is that death is like taking off a heavy coat so you don't disappear. Everything just gets lighter. You remember who you are. You're never alone. You're greeted by something or someone. Let me just affirm to everybody I saw again, I lived this firsthand and have seen far more death than probably the average person. Never one time did I see somebody come get snatched by some dark thing and drug off somewhere. Never once the the dark energies and entities and things are more life like I see that on a lot of living people like with depression and addiction and drugs and alcohol and things like that. That's a whole other topic. But there's nothing to fear in any of it, because it's all just energy. When you understand how all of this works, what your personal power is, how to ground and clear your system. You understand there's actually nothing to fear in any of it. But as far as death, people are usually scared one because nobody wants to think of the end of themselves, right? We're also self important as humans, right? Like we just like ourselves so much. So there's the like. We can't control it, so we fear it, right? So we, at least in the US, you know, tend to put the elderly away where it's not really people don't really have to look at them. It isn't understood. Other cultures honor elders a lot more than we do here, and we can learn a lot from that. But there's nothing to fear in death, even if it hurts, if you go through an experience that hurts, it's brief, even like an incineration, like people are skied, and there's all kinds of ways to transition. There's a moment, but then it's literally like taking off a heavy coat and being greeted by very familiar or very comforting beings or spirits, and then you go into kind of a curriculum from there, interesting.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:31

Now, you probably had a deep wish to share with her fiance, with her parents, that she's okay, you know, you probably have the urge to share what you knew, but then maybe that's not welcome. So how did you deal with that?

Sarah Grace 18:45

Yeah, that's one of the hardest things of the whole. Deal was for 10 years of my career, you guys got to understand, I was shamed and condemned for being like this. I went through my own, you know, trauma, addiction, near death, experience, all the stuff as a result of not wanting to be like this. I was still, by the time I became a paramedic, very kind of quiet about it, although people could feel, they could always sense that something else was happening, and they'd always be like, Grace. What are you doing? And I'm like, I don't know. You know the energies, because it's just higher consciousness, and people can sense and feel that. But as far as circle me back, bring me back to your question,

Jannecke Øinæs 19:26

yeah, as far as actually sharing what you are experiencing with things around

Sarah Grace 19:32

I had been closeted, so I wasn't super open, and that call in particular was in an earlier stage in my career where I wasn't open. That was the hardest thing for me was, where do you put this? Who do you talk to about this? It wouldn't have been ethical for me to go up to the family and go blah, because they had literally just traumatically lost their daughter and their almost fiance. And so that was a huge. That up for me, and I had to do a lot of self care integration, EMDR, somatic trauma therapy, shamanic work, plant medicine, work for myself to heal and to be able to hold a container without that stuff really eating me up. Yeah, it's

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Sarah Grace 21:45

different death experiences. So it's very organized in a medical death so say there's a hospice, an end of life, long term cancer, long term disease process. You're hanging out in your bed, and we hear this all the time, where people kind of, towards the last couple of weeks, go in and out of lucidity, but they'll start talking to people that aren't in the room, to the normal person they're like, not there, but to the person who's in the bed, they're there. So what is that and why? What happens is, as the person is dying, the the auric field begins to expand. So here we are. We're in our little human bodies. We got our human suits on, and all we are is vibration, little cells and particles and vibration, and we just again. We think we're we got it all figured out and all the things. But essentially, the auric field is a semi permeable membrane that keeps the energy of you intact as that begins to expand the container of the ego, the senses, sight, sound, taste, touch, smell like gravity, duality, the things that make us human, the things that keep us in this little Earth experience, they began to they expand out. And all it does is it opens people's accessibility to the energies that's always there. All of these energies are always around all of us. It's the senses, the ego, the duality and the gravity, the infrastructure of the human condition that keep the container intact. So as the person's transitioning, their egoic infrastructure expands. It gets a little more flimsy. More information comes to them. They can start astral traveling. They'll go visit their granddaughter over in Georgia, or go to the U wherever they're going to go, and they're laying in their bed, but energetically, they can telepathically communicate. And it just makes sense. This is the funny thing. It just makes sense. And it will make sense because you're just remembering in the moments of death. So typically the heart will stop and the respirations go into agonal respirations, which looks like kind of Guppy breathing. As the Guppy breathing is finishing, the energy begins, typically, not always, but typically from the root chakra, and it starts. It looks like a ribbon unfurling. And it's the coolest thing to witness, because every time I saw it, it was the exact same. Sometimes it was faster, sometimes it was slower. Sometimes people had more like energy or will to live than others. So it looked a little different, depending on the experience. But the the the way the mechanisms were always the same. With that, I understood, wait, there's something way bigger than us at play here, like there's a design, a divine design, to this. So the chakras begin to release. It looks like this ribbon unfurling as the soul makes its way up towards the crown. That's the light at the end of the tunnel. Experience the soul. Then, typically, not always, but most often, I saw it come out of the chest like once. Usually it comes out of the top of the head, and it just looks like this little spritz of mist, and it just goes and from that point, the person has shed the heaviness of the physical body, who they are as consciousness is still intact, and they're going to be being greeted, typically, by loved ones. If there was religious beliefs, there's going to be archetypes of the religion and or pets. That's the medical death experience. Sometimes it's longer and more drawn out. Sometimes it's more acute, but it's typically a very gradual process. Whereas traumatic death, you're just knocked out of the body, like you're in your body, you're driving your car, does you know? Or you're shot, or like whatever happens, and all of a sudden you're out of your body. So for that, there's a lot of confusion. The soul is confused. It doesn't make sense. And that, I believe, is typically why the celestial energy and frequency comes in, because it helps the soul to understand and then begin the transition process. Usually the soul who goes through a really traumatic death goes into what almost looks like a NICU or like an ICU, but it's not hospital. It's more just like cocoons of really gentle energy until the soul can recalibrate and soften and kind of integrate that they just died, and at that point, then they'll go meet family and loved ones and all that.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:46

So have you been able to follow the soul further into the afterlife?

Sarah Grace 26:53

Yeah, not just with deaths of people that I witnessed, but in my own experience, which was, of course, the first hand, but typically the initial experience. And again, humans, we want to, like, clock this, right? We got to stick everything in a box, because we want to control it. We want to be like, Okay, this time next Tuesday, I'll be fully healed. You know, that's just how we are. We can, we can have laugh at it. It's cute. So there is kind of an overlay, and things are always flexible. There isn't you can't contain the quantum, if you will. But in the death experience, being greeted by family, kind of chilling, family reunion, hanging out that was awesome, playing with your pets, talking to Jesus or whoever you know your your archetype is, from that point, you'll be ushered into the life of the life review experience. I think a lot of us have heard about this, and this isn't like hellfire and brimstone damnation as much as we've been led to believe. It's balancing in that you see, not only every thought, belief, action that you had and that you took, you see how all of those impacted other people, and you have to follow that all the way out, like the butterfly effect. So if you had a very positive life and you helped a lot of people, you're going to be feeling all of that goodness, and if you had a very negative or harmful life, then you'll play. You'll feel all of that all the way through now again, understanding not good, not bad. We've all been all the things. This is not our first rodeo, and we're living maybe 1000s of parallel lives. It's not past lives, it's now parallel lives. So this is one life that you're currently experiencing, and you go through the integration, you go through the life review, and what it does is it helps to integrate. There's we have karmic programs, we have ancestral programs. We have all kinds of lineage things and archetype things and and things that we can integrate. From that point, the soul goes into the it's the the information of that soul's experience goes into what is called the oversoul. In the oversoul. It looks like a like a brain cell, like the axon and dendrite of a brain cell. So the axon is just like the ball, and the dendrite goes out well. Everything is stored there for not just this life, but all of your lives. And from that point is where it starts to get, like DMT level stuff, where you the normal human mind just can't comprehend or contain that much information, because that's really what all of this is. Is energy and information. It's data and so it's that's kind of general.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:59

Yeah, gosh. I'm so amazed about how much knowledge, like detailed knowledge, you have about this, and this is what you have experienced yourself, right?

Sarah Grace 30:09

Lived it firsthand in my own near death experience, and as well as when I was doing my own healing work through plant medicine work, shamanic work, deep meditation practice, you know, really being given guided tours, if you will, to the universe and how it works. One other thing, it's a little bit of a mind blow here. And I if, if you don't take anything else away from what I'm saying, remember that this life that we take so seriously is temporary for all of us. So it's okay to lighten up, even though the world is crazy, even though all you know things are so uncertain, it's still okay you know, to to live your life, to feel good, to allow yourself pleasure, to take the trips, to tell the people that you love them, that's probably the most important thing. Because for sure, none of us know when, but for sure, all of us will, at one point, die or graduate. I call it graduating, and from that point, yeah, we don't have to take this too too seriously. But in one of my other journeys, I had the awareness, because I like to get out there and paramedic the universe. I like ask all these questions, and I want very specific, detailed answers, which is how I have all of this data, because I'll just go out there and be like, make this make sense to me. So at one point I was being shown almost like a beehive, you know, the honeycomb with all of the little holes. And so when I went into one of the holes in the honeycomb, that was our entire cosmos, earth and all of the planets as far out as you could possibly go or envision. And again, we as humans, very, you know, Earth centric, very egocentric, thinking, everything is about us, and that's it's part of the design. It's okay. But when I pulled my consciousness back, I pulled it, I saw how many of these honeycomb, how much, how vast it was. And there's infinite realms. There's probably trillions of different dimensions, because the macrocosm consciousness, if you want to call it God, consciousness, the universe, whatever, to me, it's energy. To me, it's intelligence, it's playing it's just experiencing itself through all of these microcosmic experiences. And if we, if we kind of expand out to that, it can be a little overwhelming, and at the same time, when we bring it and land it here, so if we have infinite capacity, and this is not the end, we're living all of these parallel lives, and ultimately, this whole thing is designed for us to just be alive and make choices and have experience that frees us, that liberates us, that can take the pressure off, to just be like, Hey, it's okay if your kitchen is messy, it's okay if you got a stack of bills that you got to handle, you know, we got to bring it back to just being human. Being human is the gift, not bypassing, not missing, the experience we don't have to. We don't usually like contrast or duality. A lot of times people are like and at the same time, the contrast and duality is largely what we came for. It's the experience of it

Jannecke Øinæs 33:39

that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, being grounded has helped me so much on my spiritual journey, because just trying to sort of escape from this human experience, I think, is the opposite of what we're supposed to be doing here. I'm supposed to actually experience being a human because I'm experiencing everything else in parallel lives, right? So why not just do this part and this role right now? Ghosts, we've heard of them. We've watched movies about them. You talked about that these spirits or souls, they're being greeted by an angel or celestial beings, and also by loved ones. Why do we hear stories then about souls who are sort of lost attachment.

Sarah Grace 34:30

They are attached to something unresolved. Maybe they're stubborn, maybe they didn't want to die. Maybe they really like their house, whatever it is, but essentially, it's a disembodied, you know, humans who are in an in between. Now, what does that mean? Consciousness? It's just levels of consciousness. So go to the light. All you're doing is going to a higher vibrational plane of remembering and understanding. So the in between is usually a. About some sort of unresolved karmic business or some sort of attachment. Again, nothing to fear. Yes, Poulter, poltergeist can be real, and you don't even have to be scared of those guys. I don't know why they're always with books and candles and light flickering. I'm like, can you come up with something original, so funny, but you just take power away by asking it like, who are you? You know? Do you have a name? Why are you here? How can like, is there a message? What is it that you need? Do you know that you're dead? Some of them don't know that they're dead, and usually they'll begin the process of transitioning. That said, I also do see in suicides sometimes, and you're not going to be banished ever. Consciousness is never going to leave a fragment of itself. And there, in some of the suicides that I've witnessed, there's kind of an in between. It's almost like they go to like continued study, where they don't have a body, but they're with guides. They may or may not be with guides, but they're going to be in some sort of like holding place, if you will. Usually it looks like a waiting room at a doctor's office or, you know, there's just kind of, it's this, it's just kind of this opaque energy. But the the Suez, the people that have suicided that I've talked to,

Jannecke Øinæs 36:22

you, mean talk to when they are on the other side.

Sarah Grace 36:25

Yeah, when I, when I communicate with them telepathically, it's like, Yo, you're right. And there may or may not be remorse. Sometimes they're like, I know it was kind of chicken shit, but I was just over it. I couldn't do it anymore. And it's like, I get it, you know, I understand and what are you doing? Where are you? I don't know. I'm just they've got me kind of, usually it's continuing some sort of integration or karmic balancing program that they were set to complete in the Soul incarnation before they then transition. So it seems to be a little bit of a holding, integration, continued learning experience before they will graduate.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:06

All right, it was interesting that you started talking about it, because I was going to ask you, and I keep experiencing that in my interviews. Now more and more that I'm thinking about a question and then the guest is answering it.

Sarah Grace 37:19

It is

Jannecke Øinæs 37:25

In the traditional way of understanding, like a few years ago, maybe 1020 years ago, a lot of people were thinking, Well, you know what, if my grandfather or parents who have passed away have reincarnated, then I don't get to meet them. But nowadays, we speak much more about our multi dimensionality, and also that there's no such thing as time. So is it like this that, yes, this all can be incarnated again in all sorts of different incarnations on other planets as well, but still, a part of them are still on the other side, able to greet their loved ones.

Sarah Grace 38:09

Oh, yeah, totally, because it's a threat of consciousness, and there's a thread of consciousness that is janika, that is Sarah, and as we shed the body again, we go through our little experience, and that that consciousness of that particular incarnation, this life experience, all of that data, all of your experiences, all of your memories, goes into the oversoul. The oversoul was tied into akashics. Akashic records are like the mack daddy, right? That's everything. That's all of the data that ever was and will be. So there is no disappearance. So it's, it's a thread of consciousness. So as you transition, if you want to see your mom, or you want to see whoever, that thread of consciousness easily comes, because it's all hologram and holograms like, you know, you look at one of those things and you see all of the fractals and the different lights, and it moves and things and everything is within and without. Every that's we always hear it's all one, and this is where it gets a little mind bend, bending ish, but this is how it all kind of works, because it is that holographic experience. Yeah, nothing has ever lost.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:19

Have you ever been able to experience yourself in other parallel dimensions and lives?

Sarah Grace 39:27

Yeah, that's pretty easy through breath work. You could do breath work. You can do basic meditation, depending on how TUNED IN YOU are and how if you have the ability to really drop in, if your pineal is activated and you can go into higher dimensions. You can access those things for a lot of ways, breath work, tantra, Kundalini, plant medicine, shamanism, all of those. Please understand you guys, those can be very deep waters. So have a good, solid, stable foundation laid before you go. Into big gun stuff. Because if you start Kundalini breathing, and you activate a full Creo release, and then you're like, Hey, I gotta make dinner for my kids, and you're like, nervous system is Fritz, and it can, there's, there's things that come with it. Again, it's not bad. You don't gotta be scared of it. But we want to understand energy can be very powerful. So as you if you want to attune yourself or have these different multi dimensional experiences, for sure, there's a lot of ways to do it, but again, grounded, solid container, always remember how to handle the body.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:35

Yeah. What are some of those experiences that have blown you away the most and also enriched your life and incarnation as Sarah today,

Sarah Grace 40:48

as far as what I've seen, yes

Jannecke Øinæs 40:51

or experienced as another part of yourself in another dimension or in in another incarnation,

Sarah Grace 40:58

There's there's things that are really not quantifiable with words, there's realities that have 33 sides, right? We're in a dualistic we got two here, really the denser. And there's entire civilizations I give us as humans, about a c minus on how smart we are. We think we're top tier man. We think we're it. But in terms of the spectrum of, you know, civilizations and intelligence that's out there, there's things that are so far more advanced than us. It's It's pretty crazy. Some of my favorites are the void. It can be scary to go into the void because it's just black, velvety nothingness, and it brings up all your shadow, which doesn't sound super fun, but what you have to understand here again, this is dualistic, light, dark, high, low, masculine, feminine, Yin, Yang. We all have both. The more that we are willing to understand and integrate the depths of ourselves, the more access we have to the equal opposite light. So the whole like light being light chaser thing, like, I get it, it's, it's, feels better, but the way to truly be able to hold very high frequencies is to deeply integrate the shadow your fears, your insecurities, your subconscious programs, your limiting beliefs, the ways that you block yourself from receiving because ultimately, you as consciousness are the creator, director, actor. It's like running the entire show. We just are taught to externalize our focus and our power and disconnect from our own vitality in that way. So it's infinite. I could talk about, from tantric, Kundalini, plant medicine, shamanic, all these different first hand experiences. And it's, it's really beautiful. And you always circle back to here and now you can go have this tremendous plant medicine experience. There's a whole lot of people running to Peru. Everybody's a shaman. They're doing everybody's doing Ayahuasca or Bufo right now. Okay, cool. They're just tools. They're going to open and expand your consciousness. You're going to have an experience, and guess what? You're going to come back, and then you still gotta empty the cat litter. And no, you have not failed as a result. I remember I had, I was doing all of these plant medicine ceremonies and having these and I thought I'd arrived right? You have this euphoria for seven to 10 days. You're all like glowy and blissful, and then the egoic infrastructure of human consciousness is designed for you to forget. You will inevitably forget. It's called the problem of permanence that Terence McKenna talked about. So then it circles you back to being here. So after doing that enough times, I remembered being exasperated and talking to my guides, like, what am I doing wrong? What am I not getting? And they're like, we brought you back to where you started with all of that integration, because you're meant to be here as a human as yourself. And I was like, very powerful ego.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:06

Is that a human experience,

Sarah Grace 44:09

and it's not going anywhere, and it's not a bad thing. I mean, we all know narcissists, even narcissists and psychopaths and sociopaths, they all serve a purpose, because they can teach us a lot of things, right? If you've ever empaths, narcissists are like, peanut butter and jelly, and empaths tend to be like, Oh, I'm such a victim. But actually, there's a reason, and the invitation is to remember your power, to learn how to set boundaries, to learn to say no, to stop over giving. It's all about why is this here, right? What is this serving? What is why? Why have I attracted this, right? Yeah, it's very interesting stuff.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:45

Does that mean that we leave the ego on the planet Earth and we don't bring it along with us in the afterlife or in other incarnations,

Sarah Grace 44:55

because ego is part of the mind, so the mind is significant. Human Right consciousness as itself, all of the data that you're connecting, all of the thoughts and things that you're figuring out, all of the lessons that you're integrating and understanding, you're going to take that information with you. But the egoic infrastructure is designed to keep you having a sense of separateness, having the little sense of human experience. And again, remember, ego, senses, duality, gravity, welcome to the human condition, and we can have these plant medicine and breath work experiences and Tantra and Kundalini experiences that momentarily expand the egoic infrastructure so that we can remember and have these divine experiences. But as long as you're embodied, it's designed to close back up and take you back into the human form, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 45:50

oh my gosh. The last time I interviewed you, I asked if there was going to be a film. Is there still going to be a film? Because I would love to watch it.

Sarah Grace 46:01

So journey into get grace my first book, it was actually contracted to become a scripted television series, and Hollywood is shut down right now, so everything is just kind of hold with that, but I've just kind of set that right there for now. What I'm going to do is create kind of my own show talking about specific protocols and ways to help people deal with all of this stuff and not freak out, and, you know, learn how to thrive through this really.

Jannecke Øinæs 46:29

Yeah, because you are very passionate about empaths and sensitives, could you share a little bit about your work with that? Because you're looking at that as a superpower, and obviously I am as well, and I'm so glad you arrived at that, because in your life, you've experienced sort of the same that you were shamed for it and everything. So it's just beautiful the way that you're stepping into such power within yourself and sharing about that.

Sarah Grace 46:54

Thank you. So more and more people are kind of coming out as energetically, sensitive or aware. So there's a lot of reasons for that, and it's an invitation. It's an invitation into, again, your own unique way of being, your own personal power, and even more importantly, understanding how to regulate your system. The number one challenge for empaths is going to be martyrdom, or doing the whole victim mentality. I get it, man, I know what it's like. Like, my experience is like so much energy in stimulus and visions all the time, and it can nuke your nervous system and drop cortisol and throw off your hormones and throw off your gut. Can make life challenging. And ultimately, the invitation is to come back into you to learn how to again, set boundaries, clear your own field, stay grounded, regulate your gut, because the gut biome gets dysregulated because the solar plexus is right at the transverse colon, we can get overstimulated. There's little things like wearing earplugs out to a restaurant so you're not getting overstimulated. It's really about nervous system regulation, but we have to be willing to let go of the Poor me. I'm so sensitive I can't function and I'll a large segment of our community is stuck there right now. That's okay. It is what it is. I've been there. It takes, it takes guts to be willing to shed any identity, especially one that requires you to own your power, like what? Yeah, but this is why I talk about this kind of stuff, just matter of fact, because it doesn't have to be fantastical. It doesn't have to be something that you have to do, you know, all of this, yeah, long six month curriculum or whatever programs or retreats or whatever it can just 10 minutes a day, learn how to ground yourself, learn how to clear your energy, get your physical body healthy. Start meditating, connecting to your own field. Understand energy. Anatomy, auric field, Sushumna, central column, meridians, those are primaries, and just understand kind of how your own consciousness is driving the bus, like you got a Ferrari man, you just don't know how to drive it. And that's what we're here to teach.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:12

I love that, and you just came out with a book right empathx, congrats.

Sarah Grace 49:20

So your lifeline for thriving on Earth as a gifted soul and empathx is just, it's a community books and curriculum platform, if you will, but grounded, practical. What do you do when this is me as a paramedic? We always gotta keep it real. So most of us as sensitives get overstimulated, overwhelmed, or we take on other people's stuff. So these are, like, very specific things to do in the moment. And I'm talking like, go get an ice pack or a bag of peas from your freezer and put it on the top of your head, the back of your neck, and do these particular breath work exercises, things that you can do in your home for free. It's very simple, practical. We do in the moment, tools, and then we do these. Are the other things that to consider long term. And then there's five tools associated with each particular so it's how to not take on everybody's stuff, how to clear yourself, how to not get overwhelmed, like those kinds of things.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:15

Should we all actually protect ourselves more sort of towards other people's negative thoughts and energies, or maybe dark energies. Or is that very individual, whether we need it or not, or is it enough to have a high vibration and then you protect it already?

Sarah Grace 50:34

So remember, the more down and in you go, the more high vibe you're going to actually be. And ground bubble protect is a great way to start. Okay, so if you're just starting out, you new to the world, you don't really understand how to regulate your own system by and regulating expanding contractor auric field, how to clear it, how to strengthen the boundaries, how to cut cords, how to get, give people's energy back, all of the basic stuff that comes along with being sensitive like this, the more you understand the how to tools you'll the ground bubble protect is adequate, but it's defensive. It's a defensive posture. The more empowered you become, the more you learn who you are like I'll just fill up my auric field, and I know who I am and what my essence feels like. So anything that is not that just deflects and ricochets, that's offensive, that's far more powerful, because I don't need to protect from anything like I am. You see the difference? But it took me a long time to figure out what's going on with all this. How do I do this and then integrate my own victim mentality that said I still have to wear earplugs every time I go to a restaurant, every time I go to a store, because the the noise in the fluorescent lights is so loud for me, so earplugs just keeps me calm and it keeps my nervous system stable. The key to your physical, mental, emotional health is as sensitive as is nervous system regulation, the more that you can learn to regulate your nervous system, like calm down. So many people are just amped fight or flight all the time, like they're so addicted to cortisol and busyness and chaos and stress, and we can't heal. We can't ground in that state. So grounding down, just learning, learning, all of those kinds of tools we talk about all here. Yeah, it's good. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:31

I'm curious about how it's like being you walking on the street, and you just mentioned a bit of it, wearing earplugs. Are you seeing dead people all around, like you're walking in the shopping mall and you you don't know who's alive and not is it that way?

Sarah Grace 52:49

Yes, for me, it is very much like being on a psychedelic 24/7 365, so it's my my primary experience is clairvoyance, seeing the grid, seeing the energy in and around people, the colors in and around people, the disease in and around people, all of their shame, what their addictions are, what they're hiding. I can see all of that first glance. And then, if I like, go into you. Then usually the dead ones, the spirits and those kinds of things will come through. But it's girl, it's a it's a lot like I said, it's sometimes I wouldn't wish it on anyone. You know, it is definitely this is a dualistic paradigm. It's both always and it takes a tremendous amount of responsibility, self responsibility, to keep my system regulated. That just means, again, gotta accept who and how I am, keep myself grounded, clear my field, get my physical body balanced, and then understand my my gifts and how and when to use them. That's kind of the general protocol, if you will, fascinating.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:56

And I gotta ask, Has anyone visited us during this episode,

Sarah Grace 54:01

you have a really beautiful light being behind you, but your energy is very gold, and you have a lot of crimson and cobalt above the crown, the layers behind your cranium are going to be more of the kind of magenta crimson. You have a really beautiful gold essence, which is usually around the celestial frequency, if you will. Your crown is very open, because here we are communicating and having, having this transmission. So that's what I'm saying, just on general glance. And of course, your heart's really open. You're super inquisitive, which to me, is beautiful and not egoic thinking, like overly egoic. So thank you for that. I just love you. I think you're awesome.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:42

Oh, thank you. Well, I think this is just so highly interesting. And like I said, before we started recording, I can't get enough of this for some reason, like it heals me to hear about this again and again. It's interesting. Like I'm saying to myself, I know this stuff. I've heard it before, and. Every time I hear it again, like I just, you know, read a chapter in your book, it was tearing up. It just touches me. And I think it's just soothing me, because for me and many others, I think we felt that we're sort of aliens on this planet, and when we hear something about our home, we just feel it, and we just feel everything is okay.

Sarah Grace 55:25

Totally, yeah, it's so nice, and it's so wonderful to have conversations like this, and thank you for continuing to share in the way that you do and normalize this stuff. You know that's the difference from when I was young and that we were ashamed and condemned, and now it's all trending on Tiktok, like it's a very different experience now, and that's great, because we can openly communicate about this kind of stuff without, you know, any sense of fear or shame. It's really we're here for a temporary time. You know, we all have highs, we all have lows, we all have strengths. We all have weaknesses. There is no right. You're not going to ascend to some exalted you're not going to start floating above your pillow and always be in bliss as long as you're alive. That's just not the human paradigm you are that already in higher conscious that is 5d you're already existing in it this. We're here for a reason. So be human. Be messy. You know, me be vulnerable, do the hard things, like, that's what we're here for. And, you know, have that nice glass of wine, if that's what you want, or the cake, or take the trip, or have the experience, or it's, that's it, you know, again, seeing death in the way that I have it always kept it extremely to the forefront, how temporary this all is. Never once did some person talk about, oh, I wish I would have accumulated more. Never, once they were always talking about their loved ones. I wish I would have had more time.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:55

I love that. Thank you so much for sharing. Sarah and I have a few questions I ask everyone, and my first one is, what is self love to you,

Sarah Grace 57:05

authenticity, willingness to just be me, to be real,

Jannecke Øinæs 57:11

beautiful, and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Sarah Grace 57:15

Yeah, just to live it. Live it, all of it. Yeah, full permission. Pull the stops out you guys.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:23

Yeah. All right. And where can people find you if they want to learn from you?

Sarah Grace 57:28

Sarah, K, grace.com So Sarah, with an H, K, grace.com you'll find journey into grace, the book on there. You'll find community information and empathic information there. And yeah, just so stoked to be here with you and thank you again. Thanks to everybody who listened.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:45

It was such a joy. Thank you so much for coming to the show again and for all your incredible work healing so many people around the globe. Thank you, Sarah, thank you so much.