Awakening To Heaven on Earth! With Rebecca Kastl

Rebecca Kastl 0:00

I've been kind of shown and guided that we, we are living in heaven on earth, we can live in heaven on earth, and we can have all that light is here. And he just was looking at me with all this love, like, I don't know, I've never, I've never felt that in this on the earth. And he was like, life is amazing. You need to go out and have a great life. Go have adventures, go live a great life. It's such a gift to be alive. And he was and I was just like, as he talked, I was like, Oh my gosh, I love I thought he was going to be my boyfriend. I thought he was a real person. And I said, What's your name? And he told me his name was Jonathan. And I was like, When can I meet you? Because I was just like, wow, this is this guy's awesome. I didn't know if until now, like last year, I realized he was an angel like I've never met him in real life.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:51

Hello, Rebecca, a warm welcome to the show.

Rebecca Kastl 0:54

Hi. I'm happy to be here.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:57

I'm really looking forward to hear your story today, because I know that you were a skeptic, or grown up in a skeptical family, and then you had this amazing, beautiful, near death like experience that you actually call spiritual, transformative experience that's a new expression for me, and That lasted for two years, and it totally changed your life from your trajectory, and now you're an energy healer and Angel interpreter, and I'd love to hear more about that later on. However, I would love to hear your story, so if you could just share what happened to you, and then we'll, we'll dive deeper into it afterwards.

Rebecca Kastl 1:42

Yes, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to share today. So I was raised in a really skeptical house. I did not believe in spirituality. I my dad was an MD, PhD, so he was a doctor with a PhD in biochemistry, and my mom was a psychologist. So my background was very medical, very material reductionist, and I got I had a trauma at 13 that really kind of sent me on a healing path that made me kind of unpack all of that skepticism that was kind of forced to unpack it. So the trauma happened at 13, and then I didn't really deal with it for a long time, and eventually I started going to therapy, and therapy was in my background. Yes, okay. We go to therapy. We talk about it. Eventually I graduated from therapy, but I knew, like my therapist told me I was okay, but I knew that I wasn't okay, and that was really the spiritual side of me coming awake and knowing like there was something more going on in me, like my mind had healed, but there was something in my spirit. I had no language for it, but I just knew I felt like there was something on top of my heart. And I said to myself at 23 that I want to heal all the way, and it's like I just felt it and I wanted to do that. I just felt like life wasn't going to be good. Until I figured out what was under my heart, I now know that it was like God source, the divine that was under there, and was just trying to get to that feeling when I said I wanted to heal all the way at 23 I kind of my life shifted onto a different path. So I'd gone to college. I'd been a great student. At 23 I just started meeting all these people. I had a job at the time, but I met a Reiki teacher. I didn't believe in Reiki, but she kind of just came into my life after I set that intention, and she started healing me, and I eventually studied with her, but I was pretty rude to her because I didn't believe anything she told me, and I was like, I don't think this is real. I don't know why you're telling me this is real, but every time I went to her, I felt better, and it was helping me reach that place that I was looking for of healing. So I kept learning from her. I learned how to listen to my heart. I had, you know, more. I also met a yoga teacher. She helped me a lot. I just was doing a lot of yoga. So those are those things were helping. You know, in this time, I had a spiritual background that was very interfaith. So in my family, my mom was Christian, my dad was Jewish, but my mom remarried an indigenous man in my early 20s. So he was said to be in his tribe, like a medicine man. He became my stepdad, and he also came I mean, when I look back on my life, I'm like, this had to have been planned like it just seemed very random, but he was a major model for me. He was he taught me a lot about spirituality from a very grounded place, because he was raised around that world. He saw visions and had dreams that came true. So when I had my spiritual experience that started at 26 he really helped me a lot, but I'll get into that in a minute. So from 23 to 25 I was doing just a lot of healing and trying to feel better, and I got really stable and happier, and I moved to New York for graduate school. At 25 I went to Teachers College at Columbia University for speech pathology, which is my my norm. Job that I do. And while I was there, my first January of grad school, I had was writing in my journal. I had started writing in my journal, dear God. So I would write like, Dear God, life is good, dear God. Kind of that started, you know, when I started getting really serious about healing at 23 and this one night that started my Ste It was January of 2006 so I was writing in my journal this one night, and I felt really taken over by this feeling. It was like I was crying, and I was, you know, writing, dear God. And I just wrote, Dear God, I have decided to give my life to you, and whatever that entails. I want to be guided by you, by the light. This is my pledge. I will work hard to follow this path and bring it to fruition. Please help me do this. Please help me bring light to other people. Thank you. Amen. And I was just like crying, and I just meant it. I just wanted to know, God, something happened that night where my heart just got so open. I did not think that would happen when I said I wanted to heal all the way, but I think that was the that was the ultimate healing all the way. And so, like, I wrote that, and then I went to bed like I didn't think anything would change, but when I went to sleep, when I was going to sleep that night, I saw light come over my bed. I've asked myself a million times, did that really happen? It did. It was a beautiful white light. It went from one end of the room to right over me, and as soon as I saw it, it was like I knew it was real. I knew it was seeing into my heart. It was like seeing into the hidden parts of me. Even though I'd done all this healing, I still had a lot of things that I was hiding, and I was so scared for this light to see me, because it was like seeing my truth. And I was like, go away. I'm scared. Go away. I'm scared. And I just, like, tensed up a lot, and, like, was so scared. I wish I wouldn't have been so scared, but I was just a human and as I told it to go away, I started to feel tingling come through my head, and it started spreading through my head like a like a headache, but it was felt like love and peace. And I didn't know what it was. I had a boyfriend at the time. I looked at him, I was like, What's this headache? Is he having this headache? This is so weird, like he was asleep, but I was and as it spread, I just relaxed into the feeling. And I felt a voice come into my head that said, you don't have to be afraid, but if you are, you can wear a hat. And it put a graduation hat into my mind's eye. And I was 26 at the time, and I just remember thinking, I was like, That's not cute. And like, I put some different hats into the voice like that. It could have chosen, which I'm embarrassed to say I did that. I just didn't know that, that I was having a spiritual experience. I was just like, is it as if somebody was like, Hey, you should wear this hat? And I was like, No, I don't like that one. So after that, I was like, I went, just went to sleep. So it had given me this message that I was going to be basically graduating or learning a lot of things. So I went to sleep, and the next morning I woke up. So like that started the two year near near death, like experience, the spiritually transformative experience. So it was a bunch of different things that happened over two years. So I went. When I woke up the next morning, I was like, that was kind of weird. I really don't know what happened, like, what that was. And I was walking, I went to grad school, to class, and I was seeing light just coming out of everyone, like everyone I passed had a beautiful, ethereal light. Everyone looked like an amazing Angel. And I just was walking down the street like, oh my goodness, everyone is so beautiful. I was just in. I was like, how did I never notice that everyone is, like, this amazing Angel? And I was really loved, loving everyone I saw, and it was, it was really beautiful, and I still see that now, but like that first couple days, it was so powerful. It's never been that bright. I hope I can get to a peaceful enough place where it will be that bright again. I still see it, but it was just like, I'd never noticed that, but we all have that. That week, like, right away, I started having psychic dreams that gave me guidance about my life, or that told me things that were going to happen. And, you know, I'd been raised like my mom was a psychologist that was not part of my background, like it was every dream is about you, just it's reflecting a part of your psyche. Now, I was having dreams like that happened later about my friends. I had a dream about a car accident before it happened. I had a dream about I got carbon monoxide at one point and survived it. I had a dream about that before it happened, and it was just like, Oh, wow. Like, this is happening. It was so it wasn't scary. I was just like, This is it was just a different it was like my soul had shifted, and I was like, dreaming about things. I still have those dreams now. They're usually about my friends or about something that's going to happen, and I never know when that's going to happen. I just, they just come and they're not about the world. I don't really know what's going to happen in our universe. I've only had one kind of download about that I can tell you later, but so that was one of the other things that happened. I started feeling angels around me as well. So it felt so deep that I knew what they were, even though my mind I didn't believe in anything like that. The first time I noticed it, I was going to sign up to study abroad, and I felt. Really tall angels on either shoulder, just basically guiding me not to do that. And they said it without words, but it felt so present that I and I listened. And you know, I've felt angels since. There's other times when I felt them and seen them. They're all around all of us, but it was just like I had taken this accidental vow and just suddenly, just was open to this whole world. So that's been really cool, and that's kind of how I do my angel readings and messages now is like that feeling and connection I developed for my Ste we call spiritually transformative experience.

Rebecca Kastl 10:35

I also started to feel I had something similar to a life review, but it was while I was living my regular life I had hurt my sister's feelings by accident during these two years, and I didn't realize it until we talked and I felt her feelings. I felt how much it had really hurt her. And I felt it like in my body and my spirit, and I was just like, whoa, again. I didn't know I could hurt people like that. Everything was like, I didn't know angels were around us. I didn't know everyone was so beautiful and full of light, I didn't know I was hurting people when I was careless with them, and I felt it so everything was just like, really, just making me aware, really, of what a divine reality is like, and how much we really affect people in this part. And, yeah, I also know how much it means to be kind like, kindness to strangers, kindness to friends. It's a huge part of my life. I mean, it's hard to do it all the time, but when I'm in a peaceful place and feeling good and it's easier to do so that was a big part. I also saw an alternate timeline of my life and lived an alternate timeline of my life, and I didn't know anything about timelines. I didn't really know, like, I kind of knew you could choose a better path by listening to your heart. I'd been learning about that from a Reiki teacher, but I I basically saw a life play out if I made a certain choice. I was during the two years I had opened my computer to write at a coffee shop and I was going to write about something not related to this experience, and I saw my whole life play out, and I lived my whole life play out if I wrote this other book. Now, I know the angels, the guides, were like, You need to share and talk about this. It took me a long time to realize that, but they were basically like, you're not supposed to write about that, or it was just something unrelated to this. And I saw the book getting published to bad reviews, I saw myself feeling very dejected. I've I saw and lived like me living out a sad and lonely life, and just like my whole life being depressing. But it was like I lived it, and I just it's like, it was like, almost like a movie that was blasted into me. And I just was like, whoa, okay. Like I was just sitting in a coffee shop. I was like, I'm not gonna do that. I closed my computer, and I was just like, I don't know what to do. Now it was so wild, and I've since seen like and felt other timelines, especially towards the end of my experience. And now we really can make our lives different by what we choose, and we can choose a better path, or, you know, if we listen to our hearts, our lives are going to have an easier path, but it was hard for me to make choices for a while, because I could feel the different timelines and, like, how much my life would change. So but eventually I just had to, like, let that go and just try to do my best, you know, live in my heart. So I also overcame my nightmare. So after my trauma, you know, I'd been really traumatized at 13 and had PTSD and depression. So I'd had these nightmares. I did not believe in what the I called them demons. They were shadowy figures. They would circle me at night, around my bed. It was like a waking dream, like a sleep paralysis, and I'd had them from 13 until 26 when I had my st 26 or was during my two year period when they stopped. You know, the therapy never made them go away. They're Reiki, the yoga, like they were still coming and going. And it really was only the spiritual experience that made me get them to go away. I was awakened in the middle of the night, and this shadowy figure was circling me, and I, you know, normally, if I had one of these nightmares, I would just be so scared, terrified, I would tense up, and I would just try to make it go away, or try to make myself wake up. This time I was awakened, and I was like, Wait, I don't have to be scared of you. And I just looked right at it, and I was like, I'm not afraid of I said, you can't hurt me. God lives in me and works through me. And I just said that with my heart totally open and unafraid. You can't hurt me. God lives in me and works through me. And it went away. The nightmare just stopped. It was, it was wild because I've been so scared and I and they never, ever came back, and I've never had one since, and that was, I mean, I'm 40 I'm 45 now. So that was a long time ago, and it was amazing. I woke up the next day like, wow. That was probably the best night of my life. I got rid of my nightmares that had been plaguing me. So that was awesome. The very end of I had a few other little things like I could during my. Tea, I would like feel eclipses in my body, like I would be walking around and just like whatever I was feeling, I would like feel an eclipse. Like I'd feel super wavy. I saw like auras around trees and stuff like, stuff I did not believe in. It was just so out there for me that when it ended I was like, Maybe I just made all that up. That was like, so wild. But when it ended with this beautiful dream of an angel, I was in the dream, I was talking to this person, and I was in my room, and he was like, glowing and really beautiful and like shining a lot of love on me. And we were just talking, and I was saying, like, life is hard. I really don't know why I'm here, and I don't know what I'm doing. And he just was looking at me with all this love, like, the more he looked at me, the more my heart opened. And he was like, just, I don't know, I've never, I've never felt that in this on the earth. And he was like, life is amazing, and you need to go out and have a great life, go have adventures, go live a great life. It's such a gift to be alive. And he was and I was just like, as he talked, I was like, Oh my gosh, I love I thought he was going to be my boyfriend. I thought he was a real person. And I said, What's your name? And he told me his name was Jonathan. And I was like, When can I meet you? Because I was just like, wow, this is this guy's awesome. I didn't know if, until now, like, last year, I realized he was an angel. Like, I've never met him in real life. He's like, you can meet me when you finish swimming. And the dream shifted from me talking to him in my room to me being on a big ship lowered down into the ocean, and I just had to start swimming out alone into the ocean. It was just a big ocean, and I was all alone when I woke up the next morning. It was over like that was I didn't realize for those two years I'd been, like, really surrounded by light. I felt all these angels. I It was like I was living in heaven. On Earth, everything just worked out. I was like, it was all very beautiful. And I really thought at the end I was going to go live in heaven, because it was like, Well, yeah, I'm learning all this stuff, and then at the end I'll go live in heaven. It's gonna be so awesome when that happens. Instead, it was like, bye, learn how to swim and everything. Just pulled back. And I was like, I was so confused. I didn't know why I was here. I thought, I thought God left me. I got really depressed because I was like, you know, I just, I really thought God hated me and left me here. And it was really, really hard. So it was like, years of processing, like a god hates me, and maybe I, or maybe I made all of it up, or maybe I'm going to just ignore it forever. Eventually, I understood that I needed to. I understood that it was real after thinking about it for a long time. And then last year, I got a really big push to start sharing my story. So in 2023 This ended in 2008 I didn't I told like one friend and I never talked about it. My stepdad had dreams about it the whole time, which really validated it for me. I knew that I wasn't really losing losing it because he was having dreams about my experience that I had wasn't breathing a word about. So I was so thankful for him. But last year, I knew I was really guided to start sharing, so I submitted to speak at the International Association for near death studies, and I shared at the conference last year, and since then, I've been sharing on podcasts. I went to the conference again this year after never talking about it, but I think, I think I'm supposed to share about it, because maybe everyone's going to have an experience similar or their own version of a spiritual experience that helps them. I'm hoping we'll see, yeah, oh, what

Jannecke Øinæs 18:28

a beautiful story and experience, wow. Um, you said at the end that you think that maybe we all will have that experience. Is that something you've been shown or something you just hope

Rebecca Kastl 18:42

I feel like it's something I hold the only thing I was shown about the future. You know, I've, I've just learned a lot about this stuff, this called the Great Awakening, and I do kind of believe in that. But I, I was only shown that we were, I can share the download I got about the future at the end of my experience, which was not the happiest one, which is why I don't talk about it a lot. I think it could be happy, but I was awakened in the middle of the night with this feeling pressing down on me of the sacredness of all of human life. This was right. As my experience ended, I felt how beautiful life was, how amazing humanity was. I could feel each person going about their day, their jobs, their small, little mundane tasks, and how beautiful everybody was. And then we were, like, all going towards a cliff. And like, it was like we were just going towards this cliff. I don't know what the cliff was. It was like we were either going to fall off of a cliff or we were going to, like, soar and have a beautiful future in my when I felt that feeling, I just said, Love is all there is. And the feeling stopped. So I feel like I think, if we can all recognize the love in each other and like, be loving towards one another, we could have, like, a really beautiful future on the. Earth. That's, that's the only thing I got about the future. But I do think we can all have a beautiful I mean, I've, since I've started sharing my story, I've had tons of people reach out for readings and sessions because they've had spiritual experiences that they don't believe in. They're freaking out, or they're intellectual, and they don't, they don't want to have these experiences like that.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:20

So, that it's a bit strange to me that when you have a beautiful experience, people have resistance towards that.

Rebecca Kastl 20:28

Yes, I know it's, I mean, I had resistance towards mine. I was like, I think I'm I think I've lost my mind. It was so beautiful, though, and I had my stepdad, but I really was like, it was so far out of the realm of reality for me, but now that I'm in a spiritual world, like sharing with people like you and going to ions, everyone's like, that's amazing. But in my world, I was like, that means I'm really, I've really lost my mind, but, but I guess I did. I lost, I lost my mind and open to my spirituality.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:58

I so understand that, because for me, it has been this long journey, but it happens so quickly, then I can really understand that you can feel like you're losing your mind because you just thought you knew a few things about this life, and then, no, I don't know anything. And what is reality? Then when I started to have my out of body experiences, I started asking that question for myself, like, what is reality? Is that the reality? Is this a reality? So what do you feel? Has the angels told you that this is all an illusion?

Rebecca Kastl 21:37

Yes, basically, I I've been kind of shown and guided that we we are living in heaven on earth, we can live in heaven on earth, and we can have all that light is here, but it's just our human minds have blocked it, and that's what I saw in my experience, and that's what they keep guiding me towards in my messages. It's like we need to, like, let go of these kind of human glasses that we're wearing. We can still be human and our bodies with our minds, but like, all the light is here, they see us as the light that I saw in everyone. That's how they see us all the time. And so I think they're just kind of waiting for us to, like, Get with the program, like, let's live into that. Because I think they're just kind of waiting for us to realize that. I mean, I think many people are, but you know, when you look at the news and all the things going on, it seems like, in a lot of ways,

Jannecke Øinæs 22:25

to me, I don't see that light. I feel I can pretend that I do in a way, and I can, I can, of course, act from love and go more into my heart. But still, I'm not seeing light in front of people, and I think, or around people, and I think a lot of us are afraid to make things up in a way that we don't want to live in a fantasy if it's not real, because what if it's not true? I've heard many skeptics say that that well, if I don't know that it's true, why should I just make it up and pretend at the same time? I know our imagination is really powerful, and we can manifest through our man, our imagination also. Now the veil, though, is so thick, like the veil is there, I believe, for a purpose. And then I wonder sometimes, isn't it a paradox that the angels are saying, wake up. Well, I mean, there's a veil there. If you just take away the whale, I would wake up, like, fully,

Rebecca Kastl 23:27

I know. Just take it away, well, and then they took it away from me. And I was like, Okay, I'm nuts. It's like, too much veil away. That's a good point. I don't know. And that's part of being on the planet. I think we're supposed to get closer to our hearts. And I think it's important to question, you know, you really don't want to be taken in by something that's false. And I think that's important as someone on the spiritual journey, to really trust your own experience and trust what you know in your heart. And I think that's kind of the going to be the best way to navigate, because, you know, you you might not see the light, but I don't have beautiful out of out of body experiences. I would love to have one of those that's really cool. Um, I've, I've tried, maybe I will, um, so, you know, we all have different gifts and abilities, and I think we can just share them in a way that uplifts all of us, you know, like, it's like pieces of the puzzle, you know, when we tune into our hearts. So, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 24:23

could you speak a little bit to healing, like you wanted to heal all the way? Do you think we can fully heal and recover from anything like in one incarnation?

Rebecca Kastl 24:35

Oh, in one I don't know about the incarnation. I'm not sure. I don't know if I've been like gearing up for this for many lifetimes, you know, but I do think if you have an intention to heal, like the angels, the divine, whatever you want to call it, they are there. They're going to help you, because that's that's like honoring your inner heart. That's why we're here, or that's why I think we're why we're here. Um. Right? So I think I was able to heal because I just felt like my life wasn't going to work. My life was not working, and I needed to really heal. And I don't know when I said I want to heal all the way, if it was like no one knew I'd done that, I was still living a human life, but my life just started showing me different things and bringing me different things. So I do think we can heal. I think it's possible to heal. But even though I had this beautiful experience, and I've done so much healing, I still work on things like forgiveness. I still get thrown different situations. I'm navigating and and healing through. It's like I have kept thinking I was going to be done healing. I remember being 25 before my Ste spiritually transformative experience, thinking like, gosh, this is great. I've really healed all the way. I'm totally done healing. This is awesome. I'm done healing. And it was like, no, like, every year it's like, oh, there's like, more I can heal. But you know, the more we heal, the more we I don't know why. I think it's just my life. I'm supposed to be healing all this stuff. Maybe not everyone has to do that.

Jannecke Øinæs 25:56

I believe, perhaps, that there's always something to heal that would just keep on healing and healing, otherwise we would be just completely emerged with source feeling that separateness, I think, in that is also the part where we feel like, yes, we're not enough. We are. We're feeling that aloneness to some degree, and separateness that makes us doubt, you know, that we're fully lovable all that. I think there's very few people that feels like they love themselves 100%

Rebecca Kastl 26:34

that's so hard. But then when you get, you know, when you get to the other side, or what you've heard, the near death experiences, or the love I felt. It's like, oh, that's that love. That's the love, like that love I felt from that Angel and that dream. It was so powerful. That's how much the divine loves us. It is wild, I mean, and it's like, almost like, it is hard to know it unless you've had an experience like that. I wouldn't believe any of the stuff I say if I hadn't have had my experience. But it was like, So real

Jannecke Øinæs 26:59

right now, do you have any thoughts? Have you reflected about why me? Because just imagine around the world, everybody who is praying and praying and praying, and you had your own prayer, in a way, like an intention and a prayer that I want to devote my life to you. But I assume a lot of other people do that as well. I know.

Rebecca Kastl 27:19

I don't know. I don't know I sometimes, I think I sometimes wonder when the light was in my room, if it was like, why did she do that? Like, part of me is like, they were like, what does she do? Now, I don't know why. I think, I think I was really, sincerely trying to heal. I was I really wasn't trying to have a spiritual experience. I wanted to feel my heart. I wanted to feel better. And I had been writing my journal, Dear God, so I don't know. I wonder if I was like, this was part of my pre birth planning, or part of my life, or if it was just like an accident. I do. I mean, I know, in the spiritual world, like accidents, they say are not, aren't real, nothing's an accident. But I do feel like I wrote that I my personality feels like I wrote that by accident. Maybe my soul doesn't but I don't know why that happened. I don't know why, and I wish that it could happen to everyone. And sometimes I think it's because I wanted to be of service. You know, I It wasn't that I just wanted to give my life to God. I really wanted to help other people, and I really meant it when I wrote it and I seen I was so sincere. So I don't know, I It's, it was such a wild thing to go through that it's why it took me so long to talk about. I mean, it's almost, it's been almost 20 years. It's like, just took a while because it was, it was so big, so

Jannecke Øinæs 28:35

Well, to me, it makes sense that we have different agreements, different contracts, and different things that we're going to experience and learn. And if a soul wants to experience being an atheist, not having any sign of like divinity, that's what they perhaps want to experience, and that's their soul contract. That makes sense to me.

Rebecca Kastl 28:56

Yeah, I think makes sense too. And you know, I also think, I think that because of my trauma, I was opened up to a spiritual reality, like, you know, I was told, you know, when the physical world doesn't take care of you, the spiritual world does. And so it's like I was really gone through and I was like, opening up to a spiritual side, because I wasn't really in my body, you know, in a way, I was really dissociated, but it's like, I was already seeing that. So I'm wondering, maybe some people are devoting their lives to God and all that stuff is happening. They're just not really seeing it. Maybe there are, like, you know, there are the angels around them and us and you and everyone. There is a light. But they're just like, they haven't, like, been so traumatized that they're seeing it, you know? So I wonder about that too, right?

Jannecke Øinæs 29:41

So did you lose all the experience and the feelings, or is it still there? Do you still see angels? Do you still see light around people?

Rebecca Kastl 29:50

Yes, okay, so when it ended, it was really like, it pulled back so much, and it was like, basically, like, you go figure this out. And and for a while, like God had done. Or the divine had done so much for me, and really just come in and taken over my life in a way. So after it, it was like I had to learn to do my half of it. I had to be an active participant, which took me a while. For a long time, I just thought God had disappeared. I would cry in my room by myself. No one knew I was doing that, and I would hold my hand out for the angels to hold. And I could feel the angels holding my hand. It was like a warmth around my hand, because it was like, all I could feel. And then over time, I I started to realize, like, oh, I can. I can do this too. So I, I was still seeing light. I was still, like, randomly helping people when they like, saving people from suicide, like, twice right after my experience ended, like, I would intercept a potential suicide and the person would live, just like, little things like that. But it was like, that was when I was tuning in. Then there was a time where I stopped trying because I thought I made all that up. None of that's real. I'm gonna ignore it. And then I was not tuning in. I was not trying to feel God. I was like and that's when my life was not as great. But so now, you know, several over a decade later, I've learned how to connect. The angels were always there. It was just learning how to connect in a way that was connecting, via my human and spiritual self to them. So I do see angels, some I hear them when I do my readings, they'll they'll get really close to me when I invite them in for a reading or a message. And that I know what it is because of my Ste I know what the angels felt like then. And so I feel that same energy, and I'm able to share what I hear. I have psychic dreams, even the years I was like, I made up that whole experience that was not real. I was still having psychic dreams. So like, that was still happening. I see light around people. I see the love in people. That was what was really interesting. After that dream with the angel, who I thought was going to be, like my real life boyfriend, I would like go I would like go on dates, and I would like look in people's eyes, and I would see the light in them from that same angel. It was like, the same light I was like, is everybody the person from the dream? Because I could just see the light inside of everyone, like, within their like, as I looked into their hearts, or their eyes, and could see their heart. So that's always been with me, since that's how I do a lot of healing, is that I see past any crud that somebody has on has over them and right into their love. And it's almost like I don't have to do anything, but see that in them, and it like frees them.

Jannecke Øinæs 32:32

Well, it's a really beautiful thing to hear that there's a light in all of us, and I don't think always we feel that in certain circumstances, I remember our princess in Norway. She's not called Princess anymore, but she's very spiritual. And she said I thought I was evil at some point, and that surprised me so much, because to me, she seems like an angel. And a lot of people you know have these feelings about themselves. And just hearing that, you see, you know, the light in people is something about anchoring ourselves in that possibility. I get curious about the dark stuff as well. When I was out in my body and had those experiences, I also encountered some darkness, and the way I was taught to get rid of that was to do some conjuring, and also to surround myself with light. I could call for Jesus, and it seems like that's the recipe to call for the light, that that really works all the time, and that that is like a great spiritual teaching for me, that whenever you're in going into a dark room and you have a candlelight, it lits up. And it seems like that's the way with his dark spirits, too.

Rebecca Kastl 33:53

So true. Oh my gosh, he gave me goosebumps. That's so true. It's beautiful. And, yeah, I do not love that. I mean, it's tough. It was a lot, it was a lot to go through. But, yeah, I think part of me has been kind of understanding lately that I was putting my human perception on the spiritual world. So like I was traumatized and I was experiencing things spiritually, but they were going to show me back my trauma. They were going to show me the the shadow parts of myself that were unhealed, and so it looked like demons. Were they real or not? I don't know. They felt very real in my nightmares, so the only way to get them to go away was to treat them as real and face them with love. What you know, there's so many theories about all this, and I come from such a skeptical background, so I'm completely open about what people think that is. But whether they were real or not. It happened, and I had to get them to go away by treating them as if they were real. And that was by love, and that was by God, um, and just knowing, like, like, the full faith that I was completely held by God, and like, nothing could hurt me, that's how I got them to go away.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:56

Yeah, often I feel like there's not a recipe. But in one way, I do feel it's a recipe, and that's what we're speaking about now, meeting the shadow, you know it, being aware of it, treating it as real, like really acknowledging it, the of putting it under the carpet and pretending it's not there, it's not there, accepting or meeting it with love, that seems to be like,

Rebecca Kastl 35:22

That's so powerful, yes, 100% that's it. And with love. And I think the the formula is not mental in a lot of ways. I think that we're looking for like a mental, like checklist, checklist, Do this, do this, and then it'll go away. It's more like it's a it's a faith formula. It's a formula in your heart where, where you just know, or I just knew I was safe and loved, and that was like a muscle in my heart that that I had to learn how to do. No one was going to tell me, like, try these things in your in your mind. It was in my heart. But, yeah, that's really powerful. I'm sorry that you've also encountered that, but I guess it's part of the human experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 35:57

Yeah, it was a bit frightful. Yeah, yeah. I think it's part of the human experience. I'm still not sure you know if it's part of us or if it's actually entities that are out there, but no

Rebecca Kastl 36:11

one has a different opinion.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:12

I know, I know, and I honestly don't want to go there, because I know I'm not going to make myself happy by exploring that, so I've made the decision not to go into that, because I also know that what you focus on will grow.

Rebecca Kastl 36:28

Like, so true. You're speaking my language. I'm 100% with you. Yes.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:33

So why go there? I'm curious about these angels that showed you so directly, like, do not do this, I think it was some studies you were making a choice, do not do that. And then I'm curious. Well, don't we have free will? And it seems like is your life even more planned than other lives or other people's lives? Like it seems like some guests that I'm interviewing, have so clear guidance on go here and do that, and we others do not. It's like we can end up anywhere. Oh,

Rebecca Kastl 37:10

well, I think you were all getting the muscles to do it. I had that very clear guidance. And it wasn't like they were telling they weren't like blocking the path. I could have gone on that path. And there's been times where I've gotten guidance since my experience where I felt guidance, and I was like, I'm not going to do like, I knew I was supposed to talk about this. I did not want to, I was scared to, and I was like, not going to do it. And, you know, after and and my life was getting really bad, it was like I could make that choice, and I did for a long time, but it was like, not, they were not going to help me in my life as much. So the path is a lot more clear and, like, open, since I honored my heart. And so I think it could help, even if you think you don't have, I don't have loud guidance all the time, but stuff like that, it was just like, Look, you want to do this. Go for it, but this is what it's going to be like. You know, the one time I got major, like, life changing intervention was when I had carbon monoxide poisoning that I mentioned before, I was like, really, I've heard that if it's not your time to go, you'll be like, there'll be, like, an intervention to keep you here. So I I had turned on the heater in my old cabin that I was living in. After my experience, I went and lived in the woods for a while because I thought if I thought if I lived in the woods, I'd be able to, like, get back to heaven. It didn't happen. So I was like, I had had a dream the week before that. I was like, I was looking in the mirror in my bathroom, and my lungs were bright red. And then I had to move out of my house. And then that next week, I had turned on the heater and I was sleeping, and then I set my alarm early to do yoga. I told you, I wake up early, and I as when the alarm went off, I felt like I was pushed out of my bed. I started running. I've never woken up running before, but I was running. I turned off the heater as I was running, and then I started falling. I got to the bathroom, where I'd had that dream, and I just couldn't stand anymore because I had no oxygen in my in my muscles, and I had to lie on the ground until I was able to move. I couldn't move. I tried to stand up. I have a scar on my chin from falling. So when I got to the hospital, like shortly thereafter, they said I was less than a minute from death. So carbon monoxide poisoning takes all of the oxygen out of your out of your muscles. So I was basically dying, and I was pushed out of my bed and running and turned off the heater. I don't know I it was so wild. I thought, like, for years, I was like, Oh yeah, that time I got carbon monoxide poisoning and lived. But it was like, now I'm thinking about it, sharing my story, like that was pretty wild. Like, that was the most intervention I've ever gotten, because I think I was supposed to stay here for to tell this story honestly, but it was wild. I mean, I've never woken up running. Have you ever woken up running out of your bed like I've never done that ever since.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:54

And at the same time, I'm curious why it happened in the first place,

Rebecca Kastl 39:58

probably, I don't know. It's probably. Not listening to the guidance or something. They're like, Yeah, I don't know why it happened, but I had a dream about it, like, I don't maybe why? So I could tell the story of divine intervention. I mean, it is I don't understand why these things happen.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:17

And what I'm curious about sometimes is, why do we have premonitions about small things, like even I have had some premonitions about seamlessly insignificant things I know. And why do I get that and not the big things and the most important things? That is, yeah, fascinating to me.

Rebecca Kastl 40:38

That's so true. I don't know why the little things. I've had little psychic dreams that show me just the most random, like a kid walking down the street, and then I see like, okay, you know, but yeah, I don't know why it's so fascinating. It's so interesting. How,

Jannecke Øinæs 40:54

how has your family reacted to this and and friends? Hasn't been difficult coming out because, like you said, you shared it with one person for a long time.

Rebecca Kastl 41:03

Yes, yeah, I have. I told one friend right after I saw the light, I saw a light, and she was like, amazing. And then I told my ex boyfriend, one of my ex boyfriends, the whole story, because he was pretty religious. He was really nice about it. But no, I kept this so secret. I don't my friends, like, they knew I was living in the woods, or they knew, like, different things, but they didn't know, like, what, why? Because I also was still deciding if it was real. So I do think, like, gosh, all my friends must think I've just lost it. I'm so embarrassed, like, but a lot of my friends are coming to me and saying, Thank you for sharing. Like I've had experiences, or they've come to me for readings or healings. There's just, I think, because I wasn't raised that way, there's, there's something powerful in me, sharing my story and being brave about it, because it's opening up a pathway for people that are also not so into this, weren't so into this stuff. My family, okay, my stepdad was very supportive, because he he knew about it. Basically, he told me I had a spiritual gift, and he helped me a lot. My mom supportive in her own way. She's very Catholic, devout, and she's she's very supportive. She and my dad, I haven't really talked about it with him, because he's really skeptical and I get embarrassed. I just don't want him to think I'm not smart. But if he's listened to any of my stories that he probably knows, but we just don't talk about it, because, like, you know it's, it's, it's, it's really out there. I know it's out there, but it's what happened to me. So, yeah, my family's been supportive, and my friends, my sister's the most supportive of all them.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:38

What is the deepest spiritual insight that you have received.

Rebecca Kastl 42:43

I mean, it's gonna sound so simple, but as soon as you ask that, it's just that we're love. We are love that is the deepest, and that is the beginning and the end, and we are love. We can be that love. And I wish it were more complicated than that. It's not for me, and that we're deeply loved, like we're so loved by our spiritual team, our guides, angels, the divine, and that we know prayers can be answered. You know, my experience started from a prayer that I wrote by accident in my journal, and I think we can pray and develop a communication with our spiritual team, this source, and it'll be there, it's there, and it'll come and help us the way that we need it. It might not always look like what we what we want, but

Jannecke Øinæs 43:31

there so, and you said something about, you know, opening your heart, following your heart. So do you think that is sort of the conclusion. And the clue here it is that we can really trust our path and our life when we follow our hearts, and if we're not following our hearts, our lives will be more difficult. Is that

Rebecca Kastl 43:55

That's what happened to me. I don't know if you've seen that too, but that's definitely like my experience. And it's not, it's just like, we say heart, but it's like, that's your divine connection. And we all had that as kids. We have it now, but I think we're slowly trained out of it when we go to school, when we have to listen, when we have to, like, kind of shut down our own spirituality. I know plenty of people that have come to me and saying, I had all these spiritual experiences, and I had to turn them off, and then forgot about them till now. So I think that, um, yeah, I think that's a beautiful way to put it. That's exactly right. When we follow our hearts, we're going, it's just, we're just, we're going with our divine path, you know, and our minds, like they can help, but it's like, use your mind to help you follow the the urgings of your heart. Don't you know, for a long time, I was only using my mind to, like, create a life that was so divorced from my heart, and that was that was never going to work, but I think it's the time yeah, we're going to say,

Jannecke Øinæs 44:46

Well, yeah, in one way, we we all get what you mean by following your heart. And still, I think a lot of people are like, but how do I follow my heart? How? How do I listen to my heart?

Rebecca Kastl 44:58

Yeah, it's so hard. I. Right? What really helps me, and I still work on it. I still work on it. So it's not like I'm an expert. I just had some wild experiences that I've had to make sense of, but I have to sitting quietly really helps learning what my thoughts are and turning my mind off, breathing and just, you know, I love to do automatic writing. My experience started from writing, so it helps me to like, I'll get a pen, and I'll ask a question, and I'll, you know, direct it towards my angels or towards God, and I'll get answers through writing that will that really helps, because it kind of helps, kind of bypass the mind. You just have to relax, and just my hand doesn't move like, it just is like, I just feel thoughts come into my mind that sound smarter than my own thoughts. So that helps, I think, mostly just getting quiet, meditating or turning off, you know, letting yourself feel what's under there. It's that still small voice. It's there in all of us. Sometimes it takes a really big thing to go through before we hear it. Though, like I was, you know, I had to go through a lot to really hear it. And some people have, like, a big illness, or they'll have a divorce, and they'll start to hear they'll, they'll, they'll need, they really need it. Then when your life is kind of coasting, it's hard because it's not quite you don't need it quite as much. Maybe

Jannecke Øinæs 46:15

I know I've thought about that. Do we need to experience something really tough in order to wake up, or can we wake up and grow through beautiful experiences?

Speaker 1 46:26

I hope we can just wake up and grow through nice things. And I'm wondering if, like, that's going to start shifting, but I do think we're all going through really hard experiences on the planet right now. I mean, I don't know, but it just seems like we're all in our own ways. There's a lot going on personally and collectively that I hope it would be really nice in the future if, like our kids, could just, my daughter is very spiritual. She'd knock on wood. She hasn't had anything too bad happen to her. She's eight, so I'm just gonna hopefully she can hang on to that. She told me she had a psychic dream, but it was very mundane. It was like she was playing with her friend on the playground, and then it happened the next day. So, oh, that's so cute. It's really cute. Well,

Jannecke Øinæs 47:07

I think the good news is, in a way, that heaven is available on Earth, that heaven is on earth. I had troubles with that in the beginning. I remember Anita moriyani had had a book about something similar, I think. And I was like, No, Heaven is not on Earth. It's on the other side. Just look around, but, but as I've done more interviews, I feel like you're on to something, because it's the way we see things. It's the glasses I have on, if I only see the terrible, you know, that's what I see more of. I think it is our power, and it is our ability, and we have that gift. If we, I don't know, yeah, if we start to do the work. I mean, it can happen like that, like a grace experience, a sort of you had, and eka totally had, and many others had. And I think it also can happen through spiritual practice, like you set an intention and you do the work.

Speaker 1 48:07

Yes, I think that's so true. And it really is just like taking off those classes, dismantling those perceptions that we've been told that we live in this horrible place, and I mean, and we've made it horrible because we've, we've a week to do this, but I do think that light, I mean, the light is really all here. I saw it. It was so beautiful. I'm like, Okay, let's all get there. Let's all get there right now. It's so nice. I hope we can, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 48:31

and what I think is super interesting is also the concept of thought forms, that if a lot of people think the same, we will create these thought forms that becomes really big. And you could see that that some societies, some cities, they it's going not so well. It's not work. It's not enough for people. Other cities are thriving, and I think it influences where we live. It's not like it's just everybody is sort of having the same opinion, or political opinions or but it's also the energy that we latch onto other people's belief systems, and then it becomes like this big belief system. So if everybody thinks that life is hard, then life will be hard.

Rebecca Kastl 49:21

Yes, very powerful. I mean, you're such a great communicator. All the things you're saying are so right on. But yeah, I think that's so true. And I think, yeah, it's what, but once you touch into something that is not what someone's told you, like what happened to me? It wasn't anything that anyone had told me. And I had to say, Wait, what is actually true here, from what I've seen myself, and I think that's important for everyone to get quiet and honor your own heart experience, because the mind can make up anything, and the mind will go off of the past, but your heart, your divine connection, can really guide you in a way that is rough. And new and healing. So I just have a lot of hope, ya, I really just have a lot of hope that this could happen to everyone in the way that it's supposed to, you know, whatever is meaningful for them. But, yeah, yeah, hopefully

Jannecke Øinæs 50:13

these YouTube videos, they will reach the whole world, like all the shows doing this that more people can see. Oh, you know, there is another way of living and there is another opportunity.

Rebecca Kastl 50:25

So inspiring. Yeah, it's beautiful. Thank you for what you do.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:29

Oh, thank you. Well, that's been really lovely. And I have a few questions that I ask many of my guests, and the first one is, what is self love to you?

Speaker 1 50:39

Oh, my gosh, that's such a great question. I my self love is just loving and honoring myself in the way that I know that the divine loves me from what I saw in my experience. So yeah, knowing that you're that we're all deeply loved, and knowing that for yourself, for each one of us.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:03

And what is happiness to you?

Speaker 1 51:05

Happiness is God's simple joys, feeling peaceful and being in nature and being with friends. It's happiness to me, family

Jannecke Øinæs 51:19

and the biggest one of all, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Rebecca Kastl 51:25

The deeper meaning of life from my perspective is to to express love in the way that each one of us is uniquely guided to. So I think we each have our own way of expressing that love and being that love. So it could be podcasting, OBEs out of body, experiences, spiritual experiences, healing, teaching, writing, and so I think that that's really how we make a beautiful symphony as a human society together.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:55

Now, Rebecca, I know you are an angel interpreter, and you work with energy. Work help people. If people want to connect with you, work with you. How can they do so,

Speaker 1 52:08

yeah, you can find me on my website. It's RebeccaKastle.com with my K, A, S, T, L, spelling, yes. And you can book there I do Angel readings, so I will tune into your angels and guides you have this ability to, I always say, trust your heart. I'm going to tell you what I hear. I'm a human filter, and it's really fun. I mean, people will see, feel so connected to their own angels after that. I'm so glad. And they'll get people get guidance about things they're wondering about questions they have, and it's always just really supportive. Some people come and they're like, I'm scared. I'm like, No, you're angels. They're going to be like, the nicest people ever. They're gonna just tell you how great you are, like, maybe take better care of yourself. And you know, nothing scary. It's all very supportive. And then the healings I do, basically because of all the stuff I experienced and went through, I'm able to do a lot of light healing. I do use Reiki and angelic guidance in Source energy, and it helps people feel better so

Jannecke Øinæs 53:02

well, you're doing amazing work, and I think it's so inspiring. Listen to all my guests who've had, you know, such transformational experiences. Like most of them have had a really hard time, and then they completely transform their lives, and they heal, and now they help others heal. And it's just so beautiful. Unfortunately, they needed to go through the dark times. But I think you become a much more powerful healer and Empath when you have actually experienced the opposite of light.

Speaker 1 53:34

So true. It's true. It's it sucked to go through. I didn't understand it at the time, but now I'm like, oh, okay, if I hadn't gone through that so yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:45

Well, thank you so much, Rebecca for coming to the show today, and thank you for being brave to share your story.

Rebecca Kastl 53:51

Thank you, Jannecke, for having me. You're so lovely. Love talking to you. Thanks.