Navigating Destiny and Exploring Multiverse Mysteries! With Pamela Aaralyn

Pamela Aaralyn 0:00

In 2028, in the current alignment, there are going to be landings in places that cannot be ignored, like governmental buildings, or beings come out and try to connect and try to talk portions of Switzerland all over the US, Canada, southern France, there's so many places if they told me that these things would happen.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:26

Hello, Pamela, a warm welcome to the show.

Pamela Aaralyn 0:29

Hello, thank you. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:33

I'm really looking forward to our conversation today, because I've been watching other videos with you. And my on why your childhood has been very different than childhood and other people's childhood experiences that you've had being awakened at year five. Communicating with beings that we normal people can't see. Living quite an extraordinary life. And today channeling the Council of Nine, and also people from the future. And that is actually a new concept to me. Because then immediately I get so curious, how can you do that when there's no such thing as time? And what timeline are they then actually in? And can't you then get answers to everything. So there's lots of things I'm curious about today. And I know you are a multi dimensional, trans Channeler and semi trans Channeler, you also musician and writer and have a huge YouTube channel. So you really seem to be living your purpose.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:50

You too, I love your show. I absolutely adore your experiences. And when you share them, the way that you share them is so inclusive and compassionate. And the wisdom that you're bringing through is so collectively human. So thank you for helping us understand everything that's up there and out there. But bringing it real in here. And I just want to say that to you like how you bring it real into our daily lives is so important to this world right now. So thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:23

Thank you for saying that, that really touches me. And it is like, you know, I'm pinching my arm, I'm sitting here speaking to you. We've never met each other before. And I immediately just feel so home and that I'm on purpose, and it makes meaning to my life to have these conversations. Because this is what is making sense to me, like not talking about it made me depressed. And when I'm having these conversations, I just light up inside. So there's something here. Now, I'd love to hear about your experience being a child, what you saw what you experienced, and what happened when you were five. So let's start there.

Pamela Aaralyn 3:04

Yeah. So I'm from a very religious background, I grew up Southern Baptist. And I was told not to do all these things, because you know, it might be demons, all that kind of stuff. I had this dream or what I thought was a dream, you know, and I woke up because the lights were on and I thought, well, it's so bright in here I must just be dreaming about the light being too bright in my room. So I woke up and I pulled my covers down and this little five year old I remember this yellow and white flowery bedspread and I keep pulling it over my eyes because it's so bright. And finally I kind of thought, well, Mom's not going to turn the light off for whatever reason. And I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to get up and turn off myself. So I pulled the covers back and got ready to get up and who says huge being standing there staring at me and smiling and there was so much expression of love. So was very, very beautiful. And it kind of motioned in this way to come. And I thought wow, this really is a dream so pulled my covers back over my head.

And, yeah, pull the covers back over the head.

That scared a little bit, but mostly just curious. Curiosity helped me go further and then I looked and it was moshing again so I did get up and go over there my little brother we're five years apart and we all share a room we grew up pretty disadvantaged financially. So we were in this like, tiny little single wide trailer with my grandparents and Yeah, little baby brother in the same room with parents and me and he was jumping up and down the crib holding on to the side like just so excited to see them and like making these cute little baby noises and I thought, well, you know, he's not scared. So I'm not going to be scared And I walked over to the being and it was tall, like its head where it was extending beyond the ceiling. And it was is if it blurred out the rest of the form around it to where I didn't notice form as much. I touched my eyes right here on the side and said, Now you see, it touched my ears and said, Now you hear it placed his hand over my heart, and said, Do you feel that my remember that? Mostly because when it put its hand here, this white skinny and long fingers on my chest, I felt this whole gamut of emotions, like the whole everything. Probably too much for a child like pain and joy and sadness and grief and like anger and love. All so many things. So so many things. And then for the last thing it did it placed its hand here on top of my head. And it said, this is your choice, do you choose to No. And I said yes. And in that moment, I begin to experience like what I would only describe as flashes of things like images of myself and other times other lifetimes. And they were going by so rapidly, and also images of potentials for the world. other beings started to step forward to other beings, specifically an angel that identified itself as Raphael. And then Michael, another angel, I had heard about that one because my mom was kind of fascinated with angels at that time. Then the being that some people know is Jesus stepped forward, and another being who caught itself Hillel stepped forward. And then all this whole Council of Nine beings stepped forward behind them. And the main being that I had originally met with the tall white robe, and the golden sash said that is your counsel, this is your team, they will be assisting you in this life with everything that you're here to do. And they said you have any questions? And I said, Well, yes, a lot, a lot of questions, a lot of questions. So then that's how my journey began.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:16

Oh, my goodness, I just started laughing like, Do you have any questions? Like, a lot of questions? Oh, my goodness, no, I'm thinking what the team you have on the other side? Like, that is a good mix of beings. I gotta say. Now, do you think that this is part of your pre birth plan that you chose to be working with this amazing team to bring forward some message to humanity?

Pamela Aaralyn 7:47

It feels that way. Although I have also felt really rewarded from that plan a lot, because I feel so invested. And it can be discouraging to receive so many visions about potentials. And before I met what I call the humans from the future, I was just working with this galactic team, this Council of Nine. And they were giving me these potentials, these predictions for things that could happen and then they would happen. But they weren't things that I could do anything in about an honestly a God really became very sad that I couldn't really do anything about it. Because by the time I was shown the prediction, it would happen, say a week or a month or a year later. And it's not like I can go to someone and say, Hey, we have to do something, you know, because I'm five years old. 10 years old, 20 years old, 30 years old. Now I'm bout to be 49 years old. At age 40. I finally started just saying, Okay, why? Just why? I understand if you want me to have unique abilities. You've said many times before, it doesn't make me special. It just makes me aware. But now what to do what to do, because you're showing me things and I feel out of control that I can't I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know how could stop. I don't know why you're showing me these things. And that's when I began to learn to buy locate. And they said, Well, we're going to teach you something new now that you're prepared. You have to project a form of your body into another time, we need to teach you about time, we need to teach you that it's not real. We need to teach you that if you can undo all of your belief systems about time and understand how it's not real. You can help people who do believe Israel, and you can help with the very real pain associated with time and your realm. So we began to train in by location. And that's how I met the humans from the future.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:42

Right, because to me, it seems like that's a very specific mission. I've never heard or I have heard but I haven't interviewed anybody that I can remember that does the same. And like you you mentioned, why would you have these visions and It seemed like that was to prepare you. But could you share a little bit about how that would feel? Like? Would you see it? Would you hear it. And if you have some examples of how that looked like.

Pamela Aaralyn 10:14

I had to learn a lot to be able to do that, because any noise that would happen, say in this body, and this timeline, would completely pull me away from the experience and out of the by located projected form, but basically, you take, and you project this form, as a mirror, and you circumvent time, in order to do that, you must not give it too much credibility and must not believe in it very much at all. You can value it, you can appreciate it. It's creative, it's beautiful. But you cannot absolutely cannot believe this real. So once they spent multiple years undoing my mind about what is reality, what is not reality, then, you know, my counsel could teach me how to by locate and project that form. So basically, I follow what I call energy trails, I see it as a clairvoyant. Immediately, once I say, this is the timeline, I choose the timeline into the future, and I pick a year, I see the energy trail, and I go there, I follow that energy trail to that timeline, placing a golden cord between this body and the other body. So it feels just like astral travel, except much more physical, much more sensory. It feels a little bit like how astral travel feels when you kind of look down and you can see that you're flying and you can identify the land and the topography and all the stuff like that. Except that when you decide once you get there, and it happens very quickly. It's not like slowly flying and looking all over the lands and taking forever, like a train or a plane or something. It's fast. You can slow it down, you can speed it up, I really wanted to enjoy just seeing Mother Earth seeing trees seeing the land. So I would try to slow it down just out of curiosity, because some of these places have never been before. And what did the future really look like? What is Earth look like? It's a deep curiosity of mine that I continue to have. So slow it down and pay attention. How is the environment doing how's the ocean doing how different oceans doing different lands doing? Learned a lot that way. But once you get there, it's really weird trying to meet someone, because you don't know anyone, save you go 20 years from the future, or 30 years or 40 years. And the further I got I recognized like I'm not, it's not like I'm going to be able to meet anyone that I know, because it probably already gone number one or number two, if they're not, if they are still with me, it would be unethical for me to mess with time in that way. Even though it's not real. I'm not allowed to work through those laws and laws of physics and work through the law of reflection in a way that would change things in a negative way, or interrupt someone's free agency or sovereignty. So there are rules to this that I had to learn. So I would get there and forge these friendships with people, just out of curiosity, I tried to convince them of what was going on. And if I met the right person and could convince them that that I am a human from the past, then they once they kind of got their head around that I would have to evidence and evidencing it is very easy just for people who are curious, all they have to do is touch me. If anyone touches me, I go straight back into this where I disappear. what that would look like for them is a disappear, they wouldn't see me anymore. Very tiring, by the way to on the physical form that's over here and this timeline when they do that, but that is that is how they evidence it. Yeah, I can't drink, I can't eat. I can't have like, I can't get a cold, I don't need to sleep. I can look at time again and say okay, project forward is say if they're going to go home and go to bed, and they're like, Okay, we can't meet longer, but I only have eight hours in the other timeline. So I want to speed it up, let them sleep get through all that because I don't need to sleep. I don't want him to walk around and do nothing, right. So speed up time a little bit, and then meet them the next day.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:30

This is so incredible. Now at first I was a bit confused because I tended to ask you about your experiences not controlling this and not going into the future. But seeing the future like having these predictions, because from what I understand seeing people from the future that started happening later. Right, right. So just the distinction there but it was really fascinating to hear you speak about it. So let's go there. Let's do this time. anything. So, first, I got curious about these people from the future. Are they clairvoyant? Or are they special? Have these abilities sometimes

Pamela Aaralyn 15:12

it depends upon how far I would go. So I've gone all the way into year 3300. And they are very telepathically minded then. But it took us until like, from this time all the way up into 2100, before people started really undoing their beliefs and what we call 3d or third dimension. That took a long time.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:37

Okay, so when you know that, does that tell you that this is how it's going to be? Yeah. Right. Okay, so what about, you're speaking about different timelines, and it's wrote it down somewhere, that it's important to know about the shift of timelines. And for those who are new to timelines, what is it? And what does it really mean that there are different timelines, let's just start there.

Pamela Aaralyn 16:07

Yeah, so a lot of people have. And this is just something that my team taught me maybe someone else feels differently. But this is our perspective, is that time is just a projection of what you are meant to experience. So say you had a pre birth intention throughout those entire contracts that say you made with your spirit team before you got here, in this form, time is going to be projected in that way. And it involves potential for shifting. So every time most people think about dimensions as a place to go, and people get very confused about 3d Earth for the earth five years time is 4d, it just makes up everything that helps the cosmos operate, it shifts based upon the law of paradox. So every time you become aware of it, it bends and moves differently. So time is 4d is perpetually changing, right? 3d is something that we attempt to control with our pre birth intentions and our soul contracts and things that we are here to learn and experience and creatively, you know, have that beautiful experience. Five D, is just a shift in perspective based upon the god mind from the sense of thought, so five d is an experience that happens say, if you think primarily with a very strong frequency of love, compassion, unity, reverence, anything aligned to your contract related to oneness and love, that is five d, and there are more dimensional experiences than five D, but five d, onward, five, D 6070, is all an expression from a sense of thought. And the more you unify your sense of thought, with that spark of consciousness, that is the god mine, you know, the cosmic source, not a religion, you can shift into an experience. So you can be 3d 45 D, all simultaneously. It's not like an upward chart that moves you. Ascension is is really not upward. It's not about above and below, it's about outward, it's about compiling all of your experiences into a degree of mastery, that, that you're specifically here for. And that's individual ascension. And then there's collective time and collective ascension. I don't even really like that word ascension, because it apply and implies that maybe one small group or large group of people is better than another when people say five d, and on a like that that's not 30 Oh, that's five d, and people get very confused. So five d, and a beyond is just an expression of thought. And since that relates to a very strong frequency that we are individually or collectively choosing to experience primarily love, compassion, oneness, etc. 3d is density and form. 3d is just that expression of knots, typically not so powerful of an expression of love, but it is just a strong expression. It's primarily based upon fear. And when you flip that coin around from fear to love, or fear to a strong frequency that is stronger than your fear, then you start to experience 45 D 60. and beyond. It's really that simple. It's not like a place that we're going.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:29

That makes sense. And thank you for that reminder. I sort of have learned that but still, I think about it as a place in my back to time you said that you could go into the future and that you were I think you said you were hurt hesitant with going to a future where you could be still alive or may backfire. I'm not sure but is there one future for you? Let's say you have multiple futures because you choose to do makeup The choice is all of a sudden you don't channel anymore and you want to do something completely different become a police, woman or whatever. How do you meet yourself, then in the future.

Pamela Aaralyn 20:11

There are certain ethical boundaries created by source itself that would prevent me from doing that. There's just like a stop gap where you don't do that. But I have met my grandchild before. But I've never seen my child in the future. Well, okay, once I saw my child in the future, and she didn't know is me. And of course, I'm a mom. So I immediately was like, wow, but it wasn't this timeline. It was another timeline where she had a different name, she had a completely different, like, her personality was the same. But she was in her 20s. And she was like studying astrophysics, and astronomy and all sorts of things. And she went by a completely different name. And I was like, Well, I'm not sure should be doing this. So I called him my counsel. And they said, if you weren't supposed to be doing it, it would not have happened. Because there are rules that stop you, there are universal cosmic laws that will govern this that would prevent you from doing anything, that would be unethical. So that helped me a lot when that first happened, because I was confused as so many people, because I brought this being to say my Patreon channel to my people who watch to YouTube to everywhere. And they were like, This sounds a lot like your daughter. And I was like, Ah, so there were like learning things along the way that I had to experience. And I did not enjoy that. But I did enjoy meeting my grandchild. And that she did not really know

Jannecke Øinæs 21:42

But is she alive, now, your grandchildren.

Pamela Aaralyn 21:46

She is not alive now. Which was fascinating. I met her deep into the future, like my daughter now is 11. So this was a long way into the future. And she did not know that it was me. Because obviously, I look different, like right now. And this is the form that projected into the timeline. And she did not know.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:08

Hmm, that was interesting. So what I don't understand, and I think a lot of people are thinking the same. Then there is a destiny it's in like, but if there are multiple futures, how can there be a destiny?

Pamela Aaralyn 22:22

Because destiny and fate exists simultaneously. So destiny is your freewill, your free agency, your gift, your essence of grace that is gifted to everyone, right? It's what you choose to do. But then you have your pre birth intentions. And that's aligned with your contracts with source when you sat there with your team. And with cosmic consciousness. You said, I want to experience this near you have some deep conversations before you come here, and that is fate. And that is going to happen no matter what. And people get very confused about that. And you can experience how you want that to happen. And you can experience to have suffering or love during it. But there are some things that are absolutely fated to happen. But time is not one of them. Time is in the Destiny realm. And we are perpetually shifting, creating and changing it. Because it's like, paint on a canvas.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:22

I want to circle back a little bit to the Council of Nine and also those extraterrestrial beings, could you share a little bit about who they are, where they come from what you know about them, this has been a huge interest of mine. I've felt like a star seed all my life. But lately or the past few years, I don't know how important it is to identify oneself as a star seed because I really want to be here as a human. And I think a lot of us are star seeds and coming from all over the place. So I'm sort of struggling to understand their existence in a way and again, like, we can't say they because there are tons of extraterrestrials in the universe. But I would love to hear a little bit about those who you know, where are they from? How they live their lives. And what you know.

Pamela Aaralyn 24:20

From what I understand, they are creator beings, you know, what I call prime creators and they created entire races of other galactic beings, or they are creator beings in training one or the other, like one of the beings on the council Katara they call her like the baby Liron because she's learning how creation works on that in that particular star system in Lyra. So there's her she's watched like the newest, most inexperienced member who's learning about creation and learning how to understand consciousness. And then there are other beings like that aren't really Is there like essences like some people know this particular group as the rock group who were channeled a long time ago? Oh, not that long, but probably in the 70s with a rock group at St. Lucia not that long ago, actually. But you and I were probably children, right? So, yeah, there's that group, and they are represented as one group. And that that would be one of the nine even though they are a soul group. So it's mostly like, groups with an association versus a name. There's only a couple of beings in training right now that have names that some would know of, such as guitarra. And then there's my spirit guide, Dolores Cannon, who is currently in training as well to be a part of this experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 25:50

Fascinating. Dolores Cannon, I wanted to interview her, but then she passed. Yeah. That's exciting. Um, speaking of fate, do they tell you that Earth has a specific fate? Or is it more a destiny that we're choosing what's going to happen with Earth in relation to how we behave?

Pamela Aaralyn 26:14

It's both. And that's something that we need to understand about this unique galactic library that we call earth, from the council's perspective is that this was created to be able to blend fate and destiny so appropriately, and so beautifully. And it's really the only place that they've told me that is like this. Yeah, there are other 3d environments that are based primarily just upon fate, so it doesn't get out of control, and so that they don't like blow up birth or kill each other. But we have a lot of that potential. And we have a lot of potential that gets so far with the potential for blowing things up and hurting each other. But then fate steps in and says, Okay, we're not going to do that. Let's work on shifting into peace and shifting into another timeline. Right?

Jannecke Øinæs 27:00

Is that because we had Rothwell, extraterrestrials came sort of just stopped the atomic the development of the atomic bomb. When that happened, that they were it was more activity.

Pamela Aaralyn 27:14

Yeah. And that was faded as well. And they aren't the only ones that were beings before them. There were beings after them that the council has explained to me have come to serve and help. And then right now we're in a time where I'd say for the past 1015 years, we haven't had a lot of assistance. But now we're starting to get assistance again, since 2021, we're starting to get a lot more assistance, because there's only so much that can be allowed to be to happen, right? We're prime creators, but we don't remember. And when we begin to awaken and remember more about our experiences, we all have our own councils, I'm not unique or special in that, you know, and the more we awaken to that those creators are helping us and they're training us to understand and how to keep peace and how to be compassionate loving beings. So there's just so much that I can tell you that they're telling me about this, and it just gets pretty deep. And it's a rabbit hole for sure.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:14

Yes, there are so many questions here. We are prime creators, you said, does that mean that on other planets, they're not prime creators and that humanity?

Pamela Aaralyn 28:25

Oh, they are too. I mean, it's a different field of creation than ours, you know, not a lot create with 3d There are only a few other star systems that create with 3d such as the Hyades is one, you know, that strong opera colony is another, you know, and from what many people know about the average akoni It can be 3d in a way that's destructive. And then other creative beings have to step in and prevent their involvement and intervention and say places like Earth, you know, that's a baby complaint Ellana in comparison, we're so young in comparison to the experience that other people have had. But we are the only one that has so much deep protection in this other beings can create and destroy and do so much more. But we are so much more deeply protected than we are aware.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:14

So speaking of fate, even though they go together on earth, will things like will will go well, like will Mother Earth will she not ascend, but will we go into the higher dimensions are in there. Okay, right. Yeah.

Pamela Aaralyn 29:35

So we have multiple versions of earth like hundreds of versions of earth that are experiencing that. And the more we stay in the frequency of love and awareness of compassion, the more we began to see and become aware of that particular version of Earth, and we live in a little bit at a time and the more we detach and undo our belief systems and time I'm like, like heal the brain from the pain that Earth has caused, we can see those beautiful versions of Earth playing out like in small components like this is what people call timeline shifts or quantum leaping different things like that. What that is, is just you becoming aware of what already is for a moment, and then you say, Get become afraid or something distracts you and you shift back to a painful consciousness, then in that moment, you go back into the old Earth. So everything that is painful, that is still here is pain that has already happened, and that we have already healed from and we are already experiencing many, many, many, many versions of beautiful five D earth and Gaia is beautiful and whole and the bees are alive. And the polar bears are still here. And then there are other three potentials that are mostly like re experiencing of the past is what I would say, then those potentials people think, Oh, we're gonna blow up earth. No, we've already done that. We've already done that so many darn times in some versions of Earth, right. And the people that did not want that to happen, created something else. And this is the beautiful earth that we live on now. But we're dipping in and out of this timelines all the time, and there's just hundreds of Earths, but all the pain that's already happened that's already been healed, and that that's complete.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:23

So a few years ago, you spoke about that the galactic help kind of disappeared for a while, and now it's coming back. And I thought about that, too, that I felt that we were speaking more about sightings 10 years ago, or 20 years ago, but also sort of on the dark side, the abductions and all these programs. Could you say a little bit about what you know about that is that over and now there are benevolent, extraterrestrial, that that are coming to help.

Pamela Aaralyn 31:58

Yeah, not over we have benevolent experiences, we have painful abduction experiences, like there's so much and something that the rock group has talked about with me is that they you can set for something called a call or a calling. And basically, it's when your frequency is so strong, that you align towards something. And this is these are when these a negative abduction experiences happen. But even those experiences are there to empower you so that you step into your power and shift strongly. Once you recognize that and then we have experiences where we set forth a calling, but then our fear takes over. And it was meant to be, say an upgrade in the DNA, the etheric DNA, a spiritual experience a healing, but we became afraid, and the brain sphere took over. And then we have these moments where the brain just it's so powerful, and it creates a negative experience of these moments that were actually positive. So our brain lies a lot about abduction experiences as well.

Jannecke Øinæs 33:06

Right? You also said that we all have a council. Could you talk to me a little bit more about that? Like, do I also have a council of nine or another number?

Pamela Aaralyn 33:19

I have seen seven around you, like seven has been a very powerful number in your life for a long time is what they're saying right now? Very, should be very sacred to you. Okay, so there are seven. And they're very, like there are a lot of Andromeda ones on your team. They're incredible, and a lot of Lyrids as well on your team. So there's a lot, there's a lot more Tyrians there. I don't have any Rotarians on my team. They're not that interested in me for some reason.

Jannecke Øinæs 33:51

So a lot of ETs, yeah.

Pamela Aaralyn 33:54

But you have a lot of big success deals on your team. So I'll have like a team. And we have to be like this isn't that you come here and you don't know anything? This isn't bootcamp. This is grad school. We come here because we already are masters in not one other realm, but many other realms. And we come here to forget that. And to do that in a different way. Some people are doing that. But some people are coming here to awaken those who have forgotten and feel like they're stuck. There's no actual such thing as being stuck. But the collective belief system of being stuck has gotten so strong that we need to come back and help our family get out of the stuck fear.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:37

How was it like for you coming out being a channeler and a psychic is that

Pamela Aaralyn 34:43

Yeah, terrible. Terrible, especially like in a deeply religious family. It was hard and I think some family understood it, particularly my mom understood it. My dad did not understand it, but he knew that I couldn't be making it up because he was experiencing unusual for now. but not as well, he like it. But he dealt with it and he was compassionate. My mum completely understood it because she's, you know, was born with dreams, she had a lot of like pathetic dreams and things. So but everybody else around me was pretty much like, Oh, there she goes again off on these tangents. And she's such a fantastical child. And she's such a, she's such a daydreamer, you know, I remember, you know, I had these, you get report cards here in my country. And they used to write them out on these little yellow pieces of cardboard looking paper, these thick, cardstock papers. And on the back, the teacher, they put your grades in the front, and on the back, the teacher could write comments, and most of the comments on my report card says, Pamela makes up a lot of fantastical stories, or Pamela daydreams a lot.

Jannecke Øinæs 35:51

Didn't you also go to like a therapist or a psychiatrist?

Pamela Aaralyn 35:56

Many times so many times

Jannecke Øinæs 35:58

What were you forced to do that?

Pamela Aaralyn 36:02

I mean, in a certain sense, because the school thought something was wrong. So they got my mom involved and said, can we test her. And while they were testing me, they put me in like a special needs class. And at that time, like in the 80s, special needs class back then were like one group of people who were vastly different on the spectrum, vastly different in functioning. So I wasn't really able to learn anything, because I had people around me that couldn't even see or hear and some people that were deeply disabled physically, and they had to learn at a slower pace. So my mom found out about that. And within maybe two days of me being in that class, she stomped down to the school, and she was very fiery woman. And she said, I don't know what your problem is, but she's not disabled. She's different, but she's not disabled. And you need to take her out of the lower functioning classroom, put her back in the classroom. She's making A's she's functioning. I said, test her not try to qualify her something different, you know, so she had to kind of advocate for me a lot. And then as an adult, people kept saying, Oh, something might be wrong with you, because you're hearing things you're seeing things something might be wrong with you. So I went on my own accord, and that wasn't for us. I said, Okay, well, let's see. So I picked a random psych psychotherapist and psychologists and psycho, you know, whole psychiatry, gammon, they had the whole realm out of the phonebook. So I'll keep it I won't even Intuit this, it'll be like up close my eyes pick from the Yellow Pages, because we had them back then. So I did that. And, and I went, I went out. And interestingly enough, the person that I picked had crystals in his office and a gong, and that was interesting, as well. But he said, um, you have a unique fascination with time. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with you. But it's very different. And I'm intrigued. You're functional. You've been this way. Since age five. This is your function. You know, you work, you go to school, you take care of your children, because I was a young mom at the time. And you're not grandiose, you have a humility about you. So this can't be bipolar, there's no signs of mania or grandiosity. You do get depressed sometimes. And I'm worried about that. But that's the only thing that he saw, really. So I got a few other opinions as well, just to share with my family.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:29

And I really admire people like you, I feel like you're so strong, you know that the world can be so harsh and criticize so much. And trying to tell you what's right. And then you come with another perspective on reality that challenges totally their belief. Yeah, that's the man's courage. So I just think that that's really courageous. But there's probably not a coincidence while you're doing it, like no. Souls are cut out for that. Now. Let's maybe bring in the council if you'd like to channel them? x

Pamela Aaralyn 39:13

And Yeah, of course.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:18

How will this work?

Pamela Aaralyn 39:19

You're going to ask them, whatever you want to know. Okay. They've been with me a long time. So it's not like a bringing them in scenario. They're just always here.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:29

All right, will be no voice answering.

Pamela Aaralyn 39:33

They tend to answer as a collective. But if you get curious about like the primary voice, you can always ask which one but they tend to also answer as a collective. Okay. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:45

All right. Well, hello. It's an honor to be able to ask questions. And I think a lot of people in my audience are really wondering about disclosure and and how disclosure will actually look like and a lot of us are sort of longing for it. And I will see also people are saying, well, the ETs are here. And I think they are at the same time, I think a lot of us are longing to see it on the news, like as a real fact.

Pamela Aaralyn 40:18

So what they're saying about that is that that is projected currently, for years 2028, 2029, 2030, 2031 that whole cluster of years, they call that the four year cluster. And there's this four year cluster of disclosure time when people have to admit, they very begrudgingly begin to express that, you know, you remember that one time, when the Pentagon was like, we're gonna express and disclose some things and talk about it. And then by the time it was happened, it was like, only barely addressed. This is different than that, because in 2028, in the current alignment, there are going to be landings in places that cannot be ignored, like governmental buildings. And I've seen a lot of visions from the council come up, where they're just reminding me, hey, these visions are still applicable, they're still in alignment, we are on the current trajectory, for those types of actual landings, we're beings come out and try to connect and try to talk. And sometimes they're met by us with love, and sometimes they're met by us with Militia and terrible experiences. And sometimes they're met, and then they show up for a little bit that they know they're gonna get shot at by our government. So then they go away. Other times, they, especially in 2028, there's a lot of individual contacts where people and small groups of people will see a landing, and they will videotape it and put it on the internet. And that's not anything unusual. We've seen that for the past 20 years or more. But this is that many, many, many people are seeing the same landing the same experience, the same beings come out of the craft force in heavily dense areas, many, many places in Sweden, and Finland and Ukraine, and portions of Switzerland and all over the US, Canada, southern France, there's so many places that they told me that these things would happen. And when people like one or more are taking, like sometimes it's one, but then the same person sees it the next day. And sometimes it's five or 10, or 20, or 30 or 40, seeing it at the same time posting at the same time in the same area. So then there's that type of disclosure where people say, I don't care what you say about it, why are we all seeing this?

Jannecke Øinæs 42:54

Interesting, what specious will appear on Earth? And why are they coming now or in 2028, and onwards.

Pamela Aaralyn 43:07

2028 according to the council has been a marker for a potential for a major war and they want to prevent it.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:15

Oh, a World War?

Pamela Aaralyn 43:18

The beginnings of a very behind the scenes Cold War and some happenings that are also not so behind the scenes that are looking like anyone could press some red buttons. So when it comes to the point where we're getting ready to do some harmful things, then yes, we have intervention.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:35

And who is helping us?

Pamela Aaralyn 43:37

We have some that are what we call I call them disease and they are zeta particulates they are strongly on the map right now in a way that I've never seen before. You know, when I'm about to be 49 years old, I've studied these things for a long time that with them gone to their ships explored their planets by located to everywhere that they go. Um the zeta particulates are most strongly present right now to prevent a lot of pain that is continuing to occur from the beings that are expressing themselves in a different way through reincarnation and through experimentation and through combining their DNA with human DNA and they're already here everywhere and those are primarily the Alpha cecconi. So the zeta particulates are trying to shift the world into more compassion so that the average akoni that are currently here come out of that power. So you have that plan and that goal from the Zetas then you have some Pleiadian interference in a helpful way where they are coming to remove specific harmful implants that have happened and painful abduction experiences love it love that. That's definitely needed. We have some begrudging Arterian interferences as of this past few years our tours are often like yeah, we don't know about you guys and you guys keep you know messing with the experiment and you know, you're they don't always know What to do, and if they do, they don't want to interfere. They trust our sovereignty, they trust that we will awaken. But they too have come out strongly in helping us in the past two years. But in 2028, we'll have more Zetas will have some unfortunate experiences with greys as we typically do, that will still happen. And then we have some from this planet that I call the star cluster 369. I am not particularly keen on this group. They are mostly like a hybrid of average akoni and alpha centauri and tell sition beings from all those star systems, they they look really different, it would be hard for me to try to explain them to you, they have this golden bronze scan, they're a little bit scaly, they're shapeshifters. That is probably the most dangerous group that I see attending to us in 2028. And that whole four year cluster 2829 30 and 31 that the council has shared with me. But then we have just like I said, the Zetas are here and they are incredible. The Pleiadians are here already, they're incredible. We get some help from Starclan cluster called mu, they come in with more like learn feline beings helping, they're going to be incredibly positive and 2028 and 29. So there's just a lot, there's more than I can name that are helping us

Jannecke Øinæs 46:27

What species or beings are most like humans.

Pamela Aaralyn 46:33

They're saying that the Lyran feline are the closest and the Pleiadians are the closest in our DNA group and perhaps the perseoniens, which are like a humanoid deviation of the Pleiadians, those would be the absolute closest to our DNA sequence.

Jannecke Øinæs 46:54

So is what you're saying there could potentially be a war or it won't be a war, because we will be helped,

Pamela Aaralyn 47:02

We will be helped. But there will be some people there saying who choose to express in a timeline of war. And we will be experiencing a timeline a peace and a timeline of war. And then a timeline. That's a little bit of everything. There's so many different outcomes happening on one planet, because there are so many different dimensional expressions. So some will be at war, and many will be at peace. So you will see five density expressions, you know, in the five dimension who are looking at 3d and wanting to help because they need that help. So we need both happening at once.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:37

So how can we prepare for this in the best possible way to be able to choose that timeline that is a five D and I assume it is about going into the heart and raising your vibration. However, like I mentioned earlier in this interview, we are still human. And we are in a dense environment. And sometimes the ego is just making it hard to go into that space of trust and love.

Pamela Aaralyn 48:13

Yeah, that's things that we they're saying that we have to train our mind into love that it's not natural. The biggest way to ever award war is to be in love with the world and be in love with the planet, be less self serving, and more self and others be a bridge to the consciousness, support your purpose for life find it, but also be interested in how that purpose supports others. So we need to be less self serving. But also, there are those who can't, there are those who are so deeply traumatized. And the council is aware that there are many who are deeply traumatized, and we need to honor that, and spend some time healing that as well. And making that a deep priority, along with being in deeper service and deeper connection to other humans, other animals and plant life.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:13

Right. So in a way, it's actually not just to be your natural self, it is actually to go against an impulse of the ego that is like, I want this, I want that that's mine, but actually, no, I'm going to train myself to do.

Pamela Aaralyn 49:32

Yeah, I'm gonna train myself into self service and compassionate service to this earth and to this world. Right. There's still so many divisions that the council is saying that we have in relation to spirituality even we bring the same fear and division, even into what we call a spiritual belief system. When we say Oh, 3d 5g, I don't want this I do want that. Love is the point no matter what love is just the Point. And when we can understand that we create less division, less separation, less fear, less war potential.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:08

When we pass over to the other side, is there a sort of a reset? Before we go into a new life? And I know that it doesn't make sense to say before, because there's no such thing as time. But I'm wondering how much is karma and other lives influencing us? Because in one way, I assume that you come into a totally new life, where everything is new, but at the same time, some of the karma is lingering. So I'm wondering, to what degree are we sort of having this reset or not?

Pamela Aaralyn 50:44

So complicated answer, because even the belief in time will restrict and limit? The answer is what they're saying. So from the standpoint of believing in time, most people will choose what would be outside of time, a very small amount of time, to those of us who are experiencing it. So that would be a day, a week, a month, you know, but sometimes that small amount of time in the spirit world that that that deep, deep rest, it can only be like 30 seconds in real time, and that person could have experienced hundreds of years of time flashing by. And it really just depends. It could be hundreds of years in human time and three seconds in another realm of time. So there's no real answer to that in terms of how much time and how long it takes to reset and with that portion of the question, but we do reset, we have to reset, souls can become tired, they can become drained, they can become overwhelmed, because they're carrying the human persona. So it's not so much that the soul is carrying karma. In for D. After you drop the body, it's not so much that karma is applicable in 3d, it is a 3d technology. It does not exist elsewhere. So it cannot carry over into 4d because it is a 3d technology. It's for your density experiencing. But when you choose to come back, then it's applicable again. And because time isn't real, all of the karma from all the lifetimes and all the experiences, they're with you right then and there, because you are accountable prime creators who need to be accountable for what you've created as well. Those are the ethics of it. That keeps it real for us, they're saying.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:33

That makes sense. I'm wondering if we should sort of shift gears and speak to some humans from the future. And I spoke to you Pamela before this interview, and you said I could choose a timeline. But I would like to ask the council what timeline would you prefer that we go into today?

Pamela Aaralyn 52:58

They're saying that you need a timeline that is close enough to you that you can feel empowered, but far enough away so that you can see the true potential that needs to change. So they're choosing your 2028 Hmm. Okay. Okay, so, the being that I've been working with today, I have not channeled publicly before or talked to her publicly before. So this will be fresh for everyone. Her name is Maya. And she is a school teacher. So she can ask answer all kinds of questions about education, children conscious parenting, when I went to this timeline just last night, I've only met her like in my time yesterday, so I'm just getting to know her, but she is also an avid channel. So she completely believed me right away. And I said, you know, I have a meeting this person tomorrow that I think he would like. So I brought her in for you. Oh, wow. I'm gonna go to that time right now. Okay.

There is her energy trail. No. She's some

in Miami, Florida area, and she is a sixth grade. Middle School teacher

primarily teaches music. She's definitely interested in the the arts

that she has in a charter school that teaches some sort of deviation off of the Montessori program. So all right. Just arrived at her home. Now. She took off work hoping that you would talk to her today so she's ready to talk to you now.

Jannecke Øinæs 55:03

Wow, amazing.

Hello there, it's very nice to meet you. And thank you for taking time to do this. And I've actually started to become a primary teacher myself. So I felt the connection there already. And I'm curious about how sorry. I'm curious about how the school system is working in 2028. Because I've struggled with as a school teacher, that I feel that we're not teaching our children the real truth about reality, even though we don't know what reality looks like. So I'm wondering if there been any shifts to the age educational system that is positive. And if you could share what that is, as an inspiration for us in the past.

Pamela Aaralyn 55:55

She's there said let you she said Nice to meet you. Yeah, Jannecke. She said that

she feels privileged to be able to she teaches English and she teaches band. And in this program, she says it's a branch off of Waldorf and Montessori programs. But it's more open towards individual learning styles. So each person that comes in to our school system is tested in early education before, you know, in the US, they would call that kindergarten, they were tested for a unique learning style. So we have a psychological protocol that identifies four different learning styles and the kids are placed into individual programs based upon their learning style. And then we also have to set a branch off of each learning style. You know, say if it is auditory, most people who learn by hearing also are musicians and artists to some degree, some people who learn by hearing are going to be incredible speakers. So we work upon that, and we have programs for that, as opposed to training someone just to go into, say, becoming a teacher becoming a mathematician becoming a scientist, we have to find out why, and how that correct correlates to their learning style. Why. So we also have test when people are going into a what in some countries they call secondary school or in this country High School. We have another test that similar to the ASVAB that would kind of help you understand not just strengths and weaknesses, but it helps you understand more of your unique personality, your unique psychological traits, your unique emotional traits as well. So in that way, I feel that the schools have made some tremendous progress. And even this special education system is very different than your timeline right now, she says.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:23

That is good news. Thank you for sharing. I'm wondering about if you would turn on the television right now. What do you see in the news? Do you see that there's still war in Europe, for instance, like we're having right now? Or is there peace.

Pamela Aaralyn 58:39

We do not see, say? The Ukraine, Russia situation, for instance, give an example is had a peace treaty now for about eight months. And maybe you can change that maybe it can even be sooner in your timeline than that. But there is the word there now. And I will say that that's also that some people think that's because Putin is no longer in power. And he is not at this time in power. I would not necessarily say that. That's the case, though.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:14

Sorry. What did you say that? He's not.

Pamela Aaralyn 59:16

She said, Some people believe that Putin because he's out of power. Now that that is the reason why there's peace, but she doesn't believe that.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:25

Okay, and Pamela, and I spoke about the disclosure and ETs. They're not the rival because many of them are here already, but more that they have a stronger presence. Is that something you see around you and are talking about with children in your class and school?

Pamela Aaralyn 59:44

Oh, yes. Some of my kids just this past year to share a story with you. She says I had five kids that were out playing and it was on this property in this you know, middle school here, right outside of Niamey, this school had actual contact. And there were five kids that got out in my classroom before they were allowed to play before the others because they finished their testing. And they went out to recess before the rest of the whole grade. And they saw something. And it was all over the news here in my school and everywhere in my town and military were coming and like taking samples of this, this unique phosphorus material that was on the land, and they segregated it off for a while because he wasn't sure if it was dangerous. That because there was a crash site. And these beings had telepathic contact with the kids. Here are five of the kids that are in my class on a regular basis in my homeroom class. And I can't tell you anything you want to know about it, but it was all over was all over the news.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:56

And is there a more openness to spirituality? Would you feel like?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:01:02

No, I gotta tell you, I really knew Pamela would ask me this, she says, but not really, it's that people think that most people who believe in spirituality, they just call it Woo, they just say that's a lot of Woo. But they all also are bridging spirit and science more. So then they will say, Oh, these are just beings that we scientifically do not understand. But at least they're not trying to say that it doesn't exist. Science has evidence, this existence and of these beings. But I would not say that spirituality has made a lot of progress. And I hope that may be if a lot of people hear this that can change.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:45

And last question, do you have any advice or any message for us humans in the past?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:01:53

Yes. My message is for your children.

I need you to treat them more compassionately. And with greater respect, I need to talk to you about this from a generational perspective. Because you have segregated things by you know, baby boomers, Generation X Generation Z. Now generation alpha is what you're experiencing, and there are many generations to come. And I would say that for Baby Boomers and Gen X, specifically, you need to calm down, you are basing the entire future of your children and your students, teachers as well, on whether or not your degree of productivity and mental health is what it should be. And the world is different jobs are different careers are going to be different. And these children are pioneers. And you're just you just think that they're lazy. These children are beautiful souls, but you treat them with great disrespect, when you say that they will not get the jobs, they will not get the education that you had, they won't get the jobs that you had, they won't do it like you do it. Well, this system is breaking. Now, that's why they refuse to do it in your timeline. Because by the time you're in my timeline, the universities will be different schools will be very different people won't need to you're starting this now people won't need to even get that degree of post mastery education, they won't need it as much anymore. They won't have the same type of jobs available anymore. So if you're raising kids that are in your household until age 30, as opposed to shaming them and being upset about it, maybe you could shift your perspective into compassion and help them

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:46

Beautiful. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Pamela, how are you feeling?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:03:57

I'm good. Yeah.

Good. Yeah, Nina is amazing. She's from what I've learned from her so far. She's really hoping she has hope. That not that the kids get better, but that parents become more conscious. And she feels that that's our responsibility, because we are just absolutely overwhelmed with our kids. And we don't know really what to do with them the suicides at an all time high, particularly in you know, the US and Canada. But it isn't in her time because we have changed that. And we have decided to stop seeing our children and our students as you know, depressed and lazy and under functioning and we've started to really listen to them and bring about a different more compassionate awareness and that has caused them to heal that has caused to have greater opportunities, not less replicates, we give them more time we're not pushing them out of the home, you know, that's going to be really important in the future.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:10

That was a powerful message and very healing as well. And I think it can, it can change a lot. We need to start with ourselves. I know that we need to wrap things up. Taking so much of your time. This has been so intriguing. And I just want to ask you one last question that I asked many of my guests what is the meaning of life from your perspective?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:05:33

Hmm, I feel like every time I'm asked this question, it changes a little bit. Because I'm always growing and I don't feel that we'll ever know the meaning of life. It feels that it's such a kind of a, a mind question. We're always trying to explore consciousness. So my meaning of life is exploration of consciousness and becoming connective, loving, compassionate, caring beings. And that's just my personal meaning and meaning of life is connection. Some people say the meaning of life is love. But that feels so general and people can just sit and away and meditate and do nothing and just say I'm just going to send you love and light. My meaning of life is to connect to let you know that I hear you that I understand you and that I want to serve and that is connection that is like for me.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:33

Beautiful. Thank you so much for coming to the show. Pamela and where can people connect with you?

Pamela Aaralyn 1:06:39

My YouTube channel was just Pamela Aaralon You know, you can find me there a lot of these humans from the future. Channelings are there you know, also have a website. I also have a patreon you can find me many places but YouTube has most of my work.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:54

Beautiful. Thank you for doing this beautiful work and for coming to the show. Much light to you.

Pamela Aaralyn 1:06:59

Thank you.