Channeler and intuitive healer Natalie Namaste shares an urgent and powerful message from galactic and angelic collectives: humanity is undergoing a massive, accelerated transformation into a new state of being. This shift is profoundly influenced by the energetic presence of 3I/Atlas, which is ushering in the New Human blueprint, where we shift from being limited by the lower mind to embodying our infinite consciousness.

The 3I/Atlas Catalyst: Activating the Infinite Mind

Natalie Namaste explains that 3I/Atlas is an expansive, high-level consciousness from the highest dimensions, deliberately entering our atmosphere to assist humanity. Its presence acts as a catalyst for growth, helping us access the Infinite Mind—the 95% of our awareness hidden beneath the “iceberg” of our day-to-day thinking.

Physically, this is causing the membranes around the cells to “come online and hold more light.” Energetically, it is creating a powerful alignment from December 18th to 22nd. This period marks a profound birthing of the new human, dissolving the veil of separation and flipping our reality: we are not humans with moments of spiritual experience, but infinite creators having a temporary human experience. The 3I/Atlas energy is crucial to this quantum leap.

The Blueprint: From Fear to Felt Presence

The current global chaos is the inevitable result of the lower mind (ego) “shaking out” its old patterns of fear and control. The solution lies in realizing that we are the “energy before the thought.” The New Human Blueprint requires a transition from thinking ourselves to safety to feeling ourselves to safety.

Natalie Namaste highlights three crucial energy centers that are coming online to support this shift: the Heart Chakra, the Shanti Chakra (Peace Chakra), and the Sacral/Hara (seat of intuition). The key to navigating this is simple: do not try to silence the mind. Instead, allow the mind to think, but retract your awareness and energy from its fearful patterns. By consciously bringing that awareness back into the present moment and into the body, the light you are dissolves the programs that once confined you.

The Multi-Layered Soul and Purpose

Natalie Namaste reveals that our struggle is often due to complex, multi-layered soul identities (such as Bridge Souls and Transmuter Souls). By consciously choosing acceptance over judgment—and sitting with the raw, uncomfortable feeling of emotions until they move through the system—we dissolve the fear of the unknown. This process liberates us from self-imposed limitations and allows us to swim with the “river of life,” fulfilling our root purpose. The universe (including Mother Earth) called in 3I/Atlas to help us achieve this freedom and realize our potential as conscious creators.

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Transcript of the interview

Natalie Namaste 0:00

Prepared to be mind blown, I started to get an immense light come through me, and then I got this huge message three i Atlas has come into our atmosphere to help us to access more of the Infinite mind. Instead of being controlled by the lower mind, we are starting to wake up and realize that we are something so much more greater than the thinking. We are the energy before the thought. The membrane around the cells in our body are coming online and holding more light. Now this is very important. From the 18th to 22nd of December, a large awakening is coming. A huge remembering is activating. There's something else now becoming available. Three energy centers are coming online more powerfully for you right now, from the 18th to the 22nd of December, a new human is being birthed.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11

Natalie, namaste. A warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North show.

Natalie Namaste 1:16

Oh, it is so wonderful to be here. Thank you for inviting me back.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:22

I'm excited to speak with you again. You are the channeler of an a collective of angelic beings and 120 to be specific, you've also started to channel the Arcturians who call themselves the blue beings. You are an intuitive healer, a Reiki Master, a psychic. And we've been emailing quite a bit, and you've been sharing with me that the angels have an urgent message that they want to come forward to guide us in these challenging times we find ourselves in with great polarity. But before we do that, I'd love for you to share how you feel. Our conversation today will expand people's consciousness.

Natalie Namaste 2:06

Oh, I love this, because just before we we met, I was getting ready, and I started to get an immense light come through me and people you all might start to everyone is here in the community, you might start to feel it. And then I got this huge message that prepare to be mind blown. And I am starting to feel three i Atlas come through very strongly. And I'd like to just go with this, if I can just let three i Atlas come through right now.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:39

Of course, yeah, let's go with it.

Natalie Namaste 2:43

So first of all, to share what 3I/Atlas is three. Atlas is consciousness, just like a tree is conscious, just like a dog is conscious, just like we are conscious. 3I/Atlas is this incredible, expanded consciousness, and here, as a human, we have, let's look at it as an image an iceberg. The tip of the iceberg is like 5% of it above the water our day to day. I call it the lower mind. Some people call it the thinking mind, or the ego or the subconscious. So I call it the lower mind, the lower mind where we're sending awareness to it and we're thinking, and it often has, it's full of patterns and conditions. So it's really running the show. Beneath the ocean is 95% of awareness, of consciousness, of the mind, mind that we don't really know much about now. Three, I Atlas is accessing all of this other expanded, infinite mind. 3I/Atlas has come into our atmosphere to help us to access more of the Infinite mind. And so with this expanded consciousness in our field, we are we are growing. We are in a huge time of growth. And what this means is, instead of being controlled by the lower mind, we are starting to wake up and realize that we are something so much more greater than the thinking we are the energy before the thought. Just take a pause and feel into that it is so expansive. And so what is happening here on our world is we're becoming less and less limited by the finite mind, and we are remembering actually, physically, what's happening is the member. Brain around the cells in our body are coming online and holding more light. That is part of the remembering. The other part of remembering is that all parts of us, that depth of the ocean, what's hidden underneath the ocean, of the iceberg, we're starting to remember. We're starting to access the light that we are, the infinite mind, the consciousness and our perception, which is the veil of the mind, where we've been so focused on the individual perception, our perception is the veil of the mind is getting thinner, and we're being able to access and remember what we truly are, that we are consciousness. We are the Infinite Creator having a human experience, not that we are a human that has moments of experiencing the infinite. It's the other way. It's now absolute. It's flipped. It's flipping. It's changing. It's shifting. We're going to a massive shift and flip, because 3I/Atlas is helping us. And what I've noticed in my own community, I have a YouTube community as well, and people have been writing to me and saying, Natalie. Through my own senses, something is happening. I feel have I got tinnitus? And it's not you're hearing higher frequencies. People are writing me, saying I'm seeing like a shadow of energy or an orb or a light flash, or I'm seeing as if I'm in a water energy all around me and and I'm feeling energy in my body. And this is what's happening. 3I/Atlas has come in to activate our five senses so that we can sense, not limited by taste, smell, touch, see, hearing and feeling, but that our senses come online in a greater expanded way. We have way more chakras, energy, senses and senses that we can experience through hundreds and so 3I/Atlas is creating this powerful activation for us so that we can sense beyond the 3d and go into 5d up to I'm being shown 13th dimensional energy. Now this is very important, from the 18th to 22nd of December three at this is bringing this information in right now. I'm just translating it as it's coming in. I'm feeling it energetically. Whoa, okay. The words are this. A large awakening is coming. A huge remembering is activating, remembering what you truly are less attachment to that lower part of the mind which functions off of fear. And fear always creates a contraction in your solar plexus, and it causes you to either run away from the uncomfortable emotion, so that's flight, or it causes you to act and fight what you're going through. And that is control. For too long on your earth, you've been acting from this level of fight or flight, escape the discomfort of the emotion and your patterns of your mind or try to control and dampen them. You are changing. You are going through a massive ego release and an expansion in your heart and your harass center in your sacral. Three energy centers are coming online more powerfully for you right now, your heart chakra, where your soul vibrates very strongly. Now the ego vibrates strongly in the solar plexus, and you've been running off of that. But as more and more of you awaken and remember that you're not just the thinking part of your mind, that you are the infinite part of the mind, that you are the creator and the light, and as you remember this, a shift is happening, where you're pausing when your ego tries to control and you're going, No, I'm not going to believe what you're telling me. I believe in something stronger. I believe in something more. And when that happens, you shift into your heart, and your soul starts to lead you, and you start to get aha moments. You start to have inspiration that's all from your soul, and you start to feel an immense love and connection to others. And then what starts to happen is that another chakra, which Jannecke, you mentioned, the peace chakra, the Shanti chakra, is coming online for so many. Of us, because the polarity on Earth is so strong, you are starting to see the shadows. You're seeing it happening in the outside world, with governments, where they're trying to control. You're seeing it happen in your own life, with your own mind, where the ego is getting so scared that that you're expanding, and it's trying to grasp on to what's left, and you, you're going, hold on, there's something more I don't need to respond to my lower mind. And so this, this chakra, which is new for so many of us. It's called the Shanti chakra, the peace chakra. It's coming online. And so many people are saying, I'm getting headaches. I'm getting pressure in my head. What's going on? It's because you are awakening and accessing the coming together of the polarity back into unity of peace. The chakra is opening, and there is another energy center that we're accessing. It's deep down in the belly. Many know it as the sacral chakra, because it's sacred. It's also called the hara or the Dan Tian, in every Eastern practice, and also these new and profound Western practices, everyone's becoming aware that deep inside the belly there's a deep intuition that's accessed. This is the seat of the soul.

Natalie Namaste 11:20

There are 82,000 meridians, and these meridians have filaments that go outside of the body to read the energy of the environment. You know when you enter into a room, and you can just feel who you want to talk to and who you don't want to talk to. If that this, this energy center is coming so strongly online that you're becoming so much more sensory. It's it's a different sense to emotional. Emotions take you up and down in all places. That's still 3d these new senses are magnetic and electric, and you're starting to sense and feel your way through life, rather than thinking yourself through life. So through aapolis is helping us to move from a place of thinking ourself into safety. You know, when you feel unsafe, you can use the mind by speaking to yourself and going, it's okay, I'm going to get through this and you're still thinking yourself to safety. There's something else now becoming available. It's about feeling deep inside of your body, feeling yourself to safety. And it's not even that you need to get yourself to safety. A realization happens that you are always safe because you are consciousness. And so from the 18th to the 22nd of December 3I/Atlas is closest to Earth. Now close. It's not that close. When we talk about light years or scientific close, it is energetic close, meaning that that veil of perception that we've normally used now the ego, the love of mind, normally does this. It looks at the past and it predicts the future based on what you've already experienced. That makes life predictable, and it means that we stay kind of safe in our cocoon, held by and controlled by the ego, because we we're predicting our future based on the past, a quantum leap is available to us. What's happening here with 3I/ Atlas and this activation in December, it means that a new timeline is coming in. We are loosening our attachments to what we think is safe. We are loosening our attachment to our identity, and we are accessing higher timelines, collectively and individually, a new human is being birthed. A new Earth is being birthed through us energetically. So instead of us being comfortable with what was, what, what we know as comfort, we're breaking through those limits. And we don't need to to remain confined. Instead of being focused on our finite that 5% of mind, we're starting to access that 95% of consciousness, we're starting to access the infinite mind, and from this, we carry more light in our body, and we send out higher frequency ways, and we magnetize in higher timelines. Now, as we magnetize in higher timelines, we have to shift our frequency to those timeline that happens automatically. That's not something you need to think about. It starts to happen. But what it looks like is not always comfortable, because anything that doesn't match that higher frequency timeline, our shadows, our control and Our fear and our patterns. Of our lower mind, our conditionings, all of that has to bubble up to the surface and be released out of our energy field so that those new timelines can be accessed and experienced. And so during this time in December, it's going to be powerful, because you're going to be bringing in more light. You're going to be feeling an expansion of mind. You're going to have aha moments. You're going to be able to feel and sense three i Atlas. You're going to you're going to have new expansion and quantum leaps that I can't even explain in words, because it's going to be energetic and lower mind can't understand it. And when you don't need to understand it. Remember the mystery and the unknown is very important, because only the ego wants to know everything. So be comfortable in the unknown, because this is going to be a very important part of this expansion. So what's going to happen is, as you expand and carry more light, anything that doesn't match the higher frequency will show itself. Don't be scared of it. Be excited about it. It means you're ready to release patterns that have kept you confined and small, and you will release them, and you will go through this massive expansion. And we're going to go through this together. And also Mother Earth. She's called in three aatlas as well. Mother Earth is going through an outbreath, an expansion. So what's happening inside of our Earth? She's releasing energy, and actually the tectonic plates are moving. We're having more seismic activity, more earthquakes, more volcanoes, and we've got it's also affecting our solar system. Our Sun's releasing more energy. We're all doing it individually. We're having massive releases so that we can hold more light and be less controlled by our patterns. We release those patterns. Now this is powerful as the lower mind lets go of its patterns. That lower mind, that ego empties. We need the ego, but we don't need it full of pattern. As it empties, it rests upon the primordial state of awareness, which is consciousness. When ego is empty, it becomes of service for consciousness, and then your soul guides the whole of your life. And what is going to happen is we're going to start to create a new earth from the heart, from our gut intuition. And it's going to look and feel so beautiful and powerful. We are all in this major outbreath of releasing Earth is we are, and it's time to get really excited, because we are about to go through a major quantum leap in December.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:48

Oh my goodness, wow. This was positive news. I mean, I've heard of challenges coming and things coming up and they are and I can feel it, and a lot of people are feeling it. However you're coming with this really empowering message here, which is, which is nice to also take in, because we can tend to focus on the earthquakes and the shadows that are coming up and the polarity, but this is for the good, right? I always think about when I go to acupuncture, it hurts a little first, and I get worse, and then I get better. Now I get curious about this three i Atlas, it's a huge focus on that. Specifically, are there more cosmic events coming in, not just three eye Atlas, and what kind of consciousness is it? Are we speaking about extraterrestrial consciousness? And I know I have a lot of questions here, I just want to give them to you, because I know you can go deep and talk at length.

Natalie Namaste 19:02

So 3I/Atlas is consciousness beyond what that finite mind can conceive. It's an energetic experience throughout this is the closest of consciousness before it goes back and folds back into oneness, meaning that it's the we are separate, and then we are no longer separate when we go back into oneness. Three atoms is still a separate consciousness. But so if we were going in like dimensions, we're here in the third dimension, and we're accessing fourth and fifth while we're in a body. There's so many higher dimensions, so all the way up to, I mean, it's it's infinite. So let's just say the top dimension was 22nd let's just bring 22nd dimension. And actually, inside of 22nd there's infinite, there's fractals upon fractals. But so say three I have, this is in the 22nd dimension of consciousness. It's at the highest level where the angels exist as well, where where aliens exist, like the Arcturians, they are also at this highest level of consciousness. They are able to go back into oneness and then come back into being a separate form. So that's where we're talking about and for us, we in order for us to have the incredible human experience, we actually need to dim down and be more focused. Otherwise, if we're accessing all of that, it's we wouldn't really be able to have the individual human experience. So they've got a huge access of information and wisdom and and so I, how I see it is it's at the same level as the aliens, the Arcturians, the galactic beings, the angels, very, very high awareness, not at not controlled by lower mind. And and then. So this, this cosmic event, this great awakening that's happening on Earth, our Earth, called in 3I/Atlas, our and all of us, we've been saying for a while, oh, things are hard. We need, we need, we need something to shift. And so that's why three Atlas has come in, specifically to help us with with this mass global awakening. And there are other comets and consciousnesses that are coming in, like there was Borisov that came in. And what I picked up with Borisov is that it came in, it's a sister soul, meaning it's, it's from, it spends its time in similar dimensional frequency as three Atlas. And it came in to do one specific support energy, and then disappeared, and it will come back again. So there's going to be comets and and more and more beings and aliens and consciousnesses that come in and support us. So for this awakening, and there's going to be layers to the awakening. So there's this powerful event, then there's going to be something else that happens next year. I'm feeling, I'm feeling something happening, and being told, an alignment of energy happens in around about mid to 20 something, 23rd of January. This is new information I'm just channeling in right now, that in January, there's an alignment, meaning an alignment of our own energy centers, all our chakras. Our chakras are mirrored by our solar system. We have seven major chakras. We have seven major planets. We have so many more planets and star systems. We have so many more chakras, but we're talking about the major ones. So there feels like in January there's going to be an alignment that happens for us, an alignment that happens with our planets and with this that happens, what I'm sensing is that it gives us a sense of clear vision, meaning this alignment in January helps us to see with real eyes, we will realize things that we didn't have access to before. I'm also picking up another another, something coming in. Okay, so when 3I/Atlas is is getting closer to Jupiter, which is around about March next year, there's going to be an activation, active veason, of deeper wisdom, of mind expansion, a sense of feeling lucky, a deep sense of joy and optimism and seeing with higher perspective and another opportunity for another timeline or quantum leap, so there's more coming. Wow. Thank you for asking that.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:47

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Natalie Namaste 25:07

Everyone will receive at the level of readiness that they are open to, frequency matches frequency those who are open ready that are desiring from the level of the soul desire, not from ego desire, but it's a higher frequency desire, and will be receiving higher frequency expansion. Will will experience a lot physically huge mind opening and mental patterns that they've been carrying for years release and and be able to connect with guides and angels and other beings and and it's as if they'll be tuning in like a radio to they'll be able to sense and hear different frequencies and and pick up messages and Be able to channel themselves those that are not ready, that is absolutely fine, that it'll be a frequency match. So if they are running with more attachment to the lower mind and and running their system more from a lower denser energy, that's absolutely fine. Everything is fine and welcome, and all is well. Consciousness wants to experience itself in trillions of different ways. There's not one way that is the only way, all ways in which consciousness is experiencing itself is divine perfection. So whatever a person is vibrating is what they'll experience. If it's more of a limited vibration, they'll have more of a limited experience. They might not sense or feel anything. They might not even know about Vea Atlas. And there are many channelers that are talking about the Earth splitting, in just two splits. It's splitting in trillions of different ways, because each person is their own universe. Each person is consciousness, having their own experience, and there does not need to be people experiencing it the same way, honor and enjoy your unique way in which you are experiencing your spiritual awakening, because that is exactly what is meant to be happening.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:27

Thank you. Who are you channeling right now?

Natalie Namaste 27:30

Oh, wow. Thank you for asking. Because first it was 3I/Atlas and not picking up like it's I feel like I'm right in consciousness. I feel like, I feel like I'm here with three iATS, having the ability to expand awareness. And from I feel like my mind is expanding into the depth of the ocean or to the infinite universe that it's not, it's not something separate that it's, it's, it's accessing consciousness. Wow, this is powerful, because sometimes I'm channeling the angels and 20 angels, or sometimes the Arcturians, but it does the way I would describe what's going on, because, like, my whole body's like in pins and needles, and my room is turned into energy and light. What it feels like, I feel like an expanse of light and love. I it, which is very similar to when I channel three Atlas or the Arcturian. So it's very high frequency.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:30

I can just feel the energy like you're so full of light and love, and it really comes across. And I was very moved by you sharing a story about your life in another video, and I wanted to ask you about it, because we just talked about that things are coming up. Shadows are coming up to be released. And it's not always easy right to meet our own shadows, to see these darker parts of ourselves. And you've had an amazing, a quite extraordinary life with Angel encounters and mystical experiences happening to you. You've been connected way to way back when you actually came in with a pre birth memory that you talked about in the other episode. And still you had also a deep, dark depression that you where you had a real transformation. And I thought it would be transformational for people to actually hear that story, if you'd like to share,

Natalie Namaste 29:34

thank you, because I know that this can be healing for everyone, and because sometimes when I was younger, I looked at teachers like Deepak Chopra, and I would think, how come they're always so happy? Like, what's wrong with me? And I mean, I was at a young age, as you mentioned, I was channeling angels. I had access to all this, but something dark inside was was always traveling with me. I was born into a home, a family with a mom who was depressed and bipolar, and sometimes she was really hard on me and and and I feel like when, when our parents say things to us, we kind of carry that, that voice in our head. So my own, I had a dark voice in my head that would really put me down, and sometimes I've got to be honest, sometimes it'll still come in, but way, way less, because I'm still human, even though I can access all of this, and I love being human, and I feel like that's an important part of this. And so there's two major things that happened. I was going through a breakup, and I was so attached to the person, and I was so hurt. Wow, the whole frequency is going high, and this is, this is very healing for everyone. I went on a 10 day Vipassana silent retreat to face my own shadows. And on, oh, it's emotional. On day five, that heaviness, that depression inside of me came up to the surface, and that dark voice inside of me, it looked at me and it said, Natalie, don't worry if you don't get through this once you leave the Vipassana, you go to the hotel room, and you just hang yourself like you've done in a past life. And I just started trembling, like my whole body started shaking. I was crying. I was amongst 80 other meditators, so the teachers took me to the back, and they just held space for me, crying and crying, I don't know for how long, but I faced my darkness. I faced it, and I witnessed it, and instead of judging it or trying to run away from it. I sat with it, and it moved through my body, like physically, as tears, as like shaking and when I could breathe again, because it was quite like like that. I looked at the teachers and I said, Will this depression and this darkness ever come back? And they said, once you sit with it. Once you allow it, it will dissolve and it will never come back as that darkness that it was. And I can promise you, from my own experience, I have never felt depression again. I have felt sadness, but I observe sadness as an energy wave that moves through the system. I don't attach to it. And say, I am sad. I say, oh, sadness is moving through me, and when we allow emotion to move through us, it moves through in 90 seconds. So I no longer had an attachment to it. But then something else happened about a year ago, November, 2025 No, 2024 and I November, 2024 sadness was starting to creep back, but not as depression, but as sadness. And I started to feel it. And I'm a great healer. I help so many people, and a great teacher, and I'm seeing so much transformation. So I knew that I was coming up for another massive expansion, another transformation. I don't see emotions or mental patterns as a bad thing. I see it as like something's ready to release. I'm gonna something good's coming. But because I'm psychic, I always kind of use my ability to uncover so I'll look, is it? Is it ancestral? Is it past life? So I'm still using mind there. This time, a deep voice came in and said, don't use psychic ability. Sit inside your sadness and something's going to happen. So without mind trying to pick up and unfold what was going on. I allowed myself to sit with that hollow, empty feeling in my heart, and I allowed myself to be sad and something powerful unfolded. Instead of judging a sensation and an emptiness inside of me and calling it sadness, I stopped naming it. And when we sit with whatever is arising, sitting with it means acceptance. Acceptance is infinite love, not mind made love, infinite love. Infinite Love is wholeness. We return to wholeness. So what happened for me is I where I started off on the outside, I was in my mind, trying to pick it apart. Then I dropped into my emotions, and started feeling the emotion of sadness. Then I dropped into this vulnerable space of unknown. I couldn't name it. I couldn't understand it. It was just sensation of emptiness. And then something happened, the fear of the unknown, which is what we all have, the ego, the lower mind, fears that it will no longer have a position. In it will it fears that it will no longer exist. I faced that, and I no longer fear death or the unknown or that uncomfortable feeling. I went into it and all of a sudden, it's like I woke up from a sleep. There was no mind there. I opened my eyes, and my room turned into energy. The walls started moving, and everything went into violet light and then disappeared for a moment. And I wasn't scared. There wasn't even the mind made eye. There wasn't the thing that I call Natalie, there was just energy and and then boo, I came back, and my thinking mind came back in and was trying to understand what just happened. And then I was like, wow, I've just come home to the infinite. I've bypassed everything that the lower mind is scared of, and I've come back. And then I came back and I had my mind again, and I was human, and I no longer was scared of that emotion. And now every time an emotion comes in, I'm able to witness it and just be with it, and it just means that emotion no longer has control over me.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:19

Wow. Thank you so much for sharing that was healing to listen to powerful and my question is, is this an advice that you can give to everyone to sit with it, or should maybe some people need to sit with an with a therapy, therapist doing this, or is it safe to do alone? I'm just thinking maybe some souls have really heavy emotions to go through and traumas, and would it be safe to sit with it all alone? Maybe they would need some help and assistance.

Natalie Namaste 37:00

Yeah, definitely. So one thing I want to empower everyone is you can do it by yourself, if you feel ready, if the lower minds not contracting you or blocking you or stopping you from from feeling ready, you can go through this. It's layered. So it'll happen at the layer that you're ready for. So sometimes it could be something like this. You feel blocked from abundance with money, and it's because you've got a belief pattern, a scarcity that's inside of you that you don't feel worthy. And you recognize it coming up, and your mind's always saying, others deserve it, I don't. And so you you notice, hey, my mind's got a pattern. And so you say, Okay, I'm going to do the practice where in my body, do I feel it. And you bring your awareness into that part of your body, and you just be there in your body, and you breathe and you feel. And you might have tears, and you might have shaking and and your mind might say some dark things to you and you and you just breathe, and the light that you are is so bright that it can get you through any darkness, and you can do it alone. But sometimes our traumas are so scary and just they shake us so much that sometimes it is just lovely to be held and supported by someone else, like even me. I can do anything myself, but sometimes I reach out to someone and I say, do you mind just meditating with me? Because what I'm going through right now, I just, I just want to be held. I don't want to do it alone, and we don't have to do it alone. The beautiful thing is that we are all here together, birthing the new human, dissolving the old patterns together, and we're here to support each other.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:47

Yeah, beautiful, and you as a psychic, could you share your perspective on this thinking mind you've been speaking a bit about it, this lower mind, this chatty mind that most of the time speaking negatively to us. What is it really? It seems like it's not stopping with these negative comments. Is this link? So when we feel the feelings, we feel the emotions that negative chatter will that also calm down.

Natalie Namaste 39:23

Yeah, and it's important not to try and control and shut down the thinking. This is important because the mind thinks that thinking. Part of the mind thinks that's its nature. It's like the heart beats. That's its nature. We've never tried to control our our intelligence, like the body digests food when you eat it. So what you do is you are the awareness. You start to remember what you are. And instead of focusing all of your awareness, the consciousness that you are, on the thinking you. Actually have choice. The more aware you become, the more you can retract the light that you are, which is awareness, or the other word, is consciousness, you can retract awareness from the thinking back into the body, back in the body exists in the present moment. So instead of trying to silence the mind, and because that just means you stay in the level of mind, you allow mind to think, let mind think. But do you believe in what mind thinks? Now, what is belief? Belief is when you send awareness, all your light towards a thought pattern over and over again with electromagnetic energy, which is feelings, emotions, emotions. So when you send emotion, which is energy in motion, emotion is what creates the belief. When you feel an emotion, you have a thought, you feel an emotion that's you're like, oh, wow, I feel it, so I believe it. So this is how we can shift the energy. What you do is, first of all, you realize that you are the energy before the thought. You are the energy before the emotion. That immediately creates an arm's length between the emotion and the thought and what you really are. And you start to come back into your power and the light that you are. Then you start to recognize all the thoughts, and you start to notice, Oh, wow. And if you even might laugh, there's that thought again, even if it's a horrible thought and it makes you feel uncomfortable, you notice the thought, but you don't believe it. You stop sending your awareness, your energy, your emotion, towards that thought, the moment you stop believing the thought, the thought loses its power. Okay, when the thought loses its power, that ego, that lower mind, starts to have less and less conditions and patterns. It starts to empty. As it empties, you are less and less of a program person. You are less and less responding to triggers. There's a pause before you react. There's a pause before you believe what your mind is saying. Your mind will think you will see it, and you will be more conscious, and you won't believe it. And then you become untangled from your beliefs, and spaciousness unfolds. And in that spaciousness, you start to sense your higher mind, your soul, and you start to sense something even deeper, all of that that's beneath the ocean of the rest of the iceberg, consciousness. And what happens then is all of those patterns and programs that used to run your show, they're no longer being fed your awareness, which means they no longer are running the show. And so what's running the show? Then your higher mind, your soul and consciousness, you're becoming more conscious. And so when the ego, the lower mind, is no longer patterned and running the show, something else happens. More energy, all of that energy that you're used to giving your patterns and your lower mind, it's now embodied. So what you start to then experience is more energy in your body. And this is where people have like, they start to say, wow, I've got pressure in my head, or I'm feeling things. And don't be scared of it. If the ego comes in and it says, oh, no, we're feeling too much. Remember, that's just a pattern. Don't believe it. You don't have to believe anything. The lower mind says, pause, retract. Awareness from the patterns of the mind, come back into the body, and you'll start to get more and more comfortable, because you're no longer sending energy to mind all day long. You've got way more energy in your body. And this is how people heal. This is how the body heals. Because how can the body heal? If you're all day long, sending energy away from yourself distracted by thought, you heal by bringing all of that awareness back into the body and living in the present moment. This is where magic happens. Miracles happen. This is where you feel the fullness of the light that you are powerful.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:23

Very helpful. Thank you so much for sharing that. Gosh, I have so many more questions. You have told me that there are different types of souls, like we have sensitive, high frequency transmuter souls, Earth souls, Earth Angels. Could you take us through that? And obviously I get very curious about what kind of soul I am, and I guess the audience too, definitely.

Natalie Namaste 44:51

So I'll go through them, and then I'll read your energy and connect with your soul. So high frequency souls, it's amazing. They am. What we call people that are on the spectrum, like we give names like ADHD and autism, they're high frequency cells. They're not here to fit into the box. They're not here to conform to the old patterns in which we're trying to keep society going the same way. No, they're here to break through those patterns. They're here to release boundaries that our lower minds held us in. So they come in and they're like, it must be quite challenging for them, because they can access high frequency all the time. They can sense through their senses higher frequencies, like feel it, hear it, sense it. And so they don't really want to interact too much with the third dimension, because it feels very heavy and dense for them, but what they're doing, their unique frequency that they're bringing into our Earth, is breaking through the barriers of us, keeping the structures of like the way we've always schooled people. These are souls that cannot go into our traditional schooling, and that's good, because we need to create new schools from the heart, and they're breaking the boundaries of, oh, we need to work nine to five and earn money that way. No, we don't. We need to break that and come back to our heart and remember, what is it that we loved as a child? Because what we love is what we're meant to be doing here. That's what we're meant to be creating. So these high frequency souls have a very important mission, and it's not always easy for the parents. I have a lot of clients and students who I teach you, who they're like, Wow, help me with this. And I just want to say to the parents here, thank you for birthing a high frequency soul, and I we all appreciate you and and one of the things that can help you is to help your your child, to feel, to remember that they're a high frequency soul, that they're allowed to be who they are, and that to give them ways to release emotion, like shake it out, breathe emotion out, so that it doesn't get trapped in their system and Then they struggle. So that's going to be very important. And then that's high frequency souls. And there's high frequency souls also that aren't so much on the extremes of the spectrum. They're also souls that can channel, that can access higher dimensions. Then we've got transmuter souls. Now, transmuter souls have a very important mission. They are here to transmute the collective if you're a transmuter soul, you're super sensitive, you're an empath, you you might wake up one morning and you just feel sad, and you don't have any reason to feel sad, but you're feeling the collective sadness, or you're feeling anxiety running through your system, but you've got nothing to worry about. You're feeling the collective anxiety, like there's a lot of like, fear or worry in the collective so if you're a transmuter soul, then and now, you're probably going like, Yep, that's me. What what you can do is recognize, okay, it's not mine. I don't have to own it. Just by doing that, you allow the energy to move through and out, instead of stay in a loop in your system, and your mind will attach less, and your emotion will release it. And when you release it, you'll be knowing that you're releasing it for the whole of humanity and the earth. You're releasing it for the collective so that's transmuter souls. And then we've got Earth souls that are very connected to Mother Earth. They just, you just want to be outside in nature. You find it easier to get on with plants or animals. You find it really hard to be around humans. Accept that this is your beautiful gift. You are here to help Mother Earth to feel in harmony. You and mother earth get each other. It's like you speak the same language. So when you're connecting to Mother Earth, you're helping her, and she can help you. You've got such a beautiful harmony. So allow yourself to just be in nature, more than being in society and and know that your purpose is to help Earth to be in a state of harmony. So now I'm going to connect with you, ya and and feel what your soul is here to do. So first of all, I'm immediately taken into the heart, and I feel tears of love. I feel that you are all you are here to be a bridge. Oh, that you're a whole different type of soul that I haven't mentioned yet. You're a heart based bridge soul. And what you're here to do is to be a guiding light and to be a bridge from the heart, meaning you're here to bridge the the lower mind and the higher mind. You're here to help teach people how to do. And move from lower mind back into trusting and remembering who they truly are and coming back into their heart. So you are a bridge soul that bridges the higher frequencies and the lower frequencies of the lower mind through the heart and to guide and teach from that space Interesting.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:26

Well, that resonates. I do feel, also a resonance with the transmuter souls, because I do feel like take on the collective energy I can, for example, like you said, wake up in the morning and just feel sadness or just have anxiety come over me out of the blue and wondering I have nothing to be afraid of, and feeling it very intensely, but that might be because I'm a sensitive as well.

Natalie Namaste 50:53

I'm getting another message coming through from the angels. Okay, so what I've just found out is that we have like a primary, like our primary energy, and then we we have like secondary energies. So your primary is the bridge to the heart soul, and your secondary is the transmuter soul. And I actually feel yanika, that you've got a bit of everything. I also I can feel your roots from the soles of your feet, deeply connected and of service to Mother Earth. So many people here you, many of you beautiful souls, are going to realize that you have a primary and that's like, your like, the strongest one. And then there are other parts to your soul as well, like, like, You, Jannecke. So that makes a lot of sense, because I'm getting a strong yes from the angel that you have this transmuter energy as well.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:48

Interesting, and I'm going to jump a bit, and it's a question that I've always been curious about, and I've gotten a lot of answers to it. And still, still, I go there. I know that you've had pre birth memories, and in a last episode, you share that story, and everyone who's interested can listen to that episode. But you also said that, oh, you know, I was able to see more into other dimensions, and we didn't get to speak about that. And what you said that is that you saw what other souls were doing in those different dimensions, and why some of them are choosing to come down into this incarnation. Because it is interesting. Why would you leave a beautiful place right to come down into Earth to have such a polarized experience? And I've always been curious about, what is my grandmother doing on the other side, what is my grandfather doing? I'm deeply missing them, right? So the doingness, I mean, for us humans, it makes sense that they're doing something, that they're not just flying around being spirits forever in internal eternity.

Natalie Namaste 53:04

This is going to help many souls here that are incarnated to to feel peace about your loved ones who have passed. So first of all, I want to bring this up because it's important as far out as the mind can imagine is as far out as the dimensions exist. So we are in a mind made and we don't even quite understand what mind is, but it's incredible. As far out as mind can imagine is as far out as we can create dimensions and experiences. So there's oneness, there's God consciousness in oneness, there's no experience there, there's no mind there. There's no separate experience. So oneness created mind so that through mind, oneness can experience itself as a separate experience. So now mind is infinitely creating it. It doesn't end. It's fractals upon fractals upon fractals of experience. And so these dimensions are, are huge and expansive. And when we, when we leave the third, and we're living quite third, fourth, fifth dimensionally in our body, when we, when we leave the physical body, the state of the mind at the time of death. What that means is what you believe in at the time of death, is what I've been shown, is what you will momentarily experience. So the state of mind continues, meaning the soul that you are continues. Soul is higher mind. And so if you believe that you're going to be met by angels, then you have that experience. And if you believe that you might go to hell, you'll have that experience. But remember, it's just momentary. It's like, it's like, okay, it's like, when a geckos tail gets cut off, it still has energy in it. It still pulses. So that belief of lower mind pulses for a moment. And and then it dissolves. Then you access all that I was talking about that's beneath the ocean, the rest of the the iceberg, but in stages. So you start to expand through mind. And these are the dimensions. So some souls, then you think and you experience. It happens instantly. And whereas here we have thoughts, which sends our frequency ways connected with emotion. So we're slower manifesters Here in this dimension, there in the higher dimensions, think experience happens at the same time. There's no time delay. And so our loved ones who have passed they are in these other dimensions, and I've been shown these dimensions, one of them is like a school where you you go to, like, learn more and experience and what it's like to to fly and what it's like to create and use the mind in these wonderful Ways. Then there's other dimensions, where souls become guides. I once had a client where he was really his mind was very traumatized, like you, you would say schizophrenic, really struggling. And he asked me, Why have I come to earth? It is so hard. I'm really struggling. And I connected to his soul, and I was like in another dimension, your purpose is to help souls when that have had hard lives, that have committed suicide, that have just had an awfully hard life, and that very tragic and traumatic deaths, you are a guiding soul for them So the moment that they die and leave their physical body, you are there to nurture love and hold them, to help their mind to expand gently from that hard life and traumatic death. And I and so then I showed him that because, because you a guide at such a high frequency and doing such powerful work, your soul chose to come down to earth to have a really hard experience so that you could understand what those souls go through, so that you can have an energetic compassion for them when you're helping them from that higher level.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:20

Wow. That makes sense. So in a way, we have all sorts of different reasons why we incarnate that are personal to the soul.

Natalie Namaste 57:30

Exactly. There's, there's like a root soul purpose, which isn't a thing. It's not like, oh, I need to become a teacher. It's not it's it is a sensation. It's a feeling. So what does teaching give give you? It gives you a feeling of fulfillment, a feeling of knowing, a feeling of love. So that's the sole purpose. And then from there, what we do, like, for example, with me. Throughout my life, I've done different things, but they're all been of service. I've been a waitress. I've worked on on yachts being of service there. I've been a healer throughout I've been doing healing, and now I'm a healer, a teacher and but it's all been the root of it is to be of service. So each one of us has a root purpose, and from there, anything can be imagined and created. What blocks and stops us is when our lower mind thinks, thinks we're not good enough, or we don't deserve it, or, you know, any of those patterns, and we can just witness them, and they'll dissolve, and we'll access more and more of our sole purpose and expanded way of living.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:46

There was a tool I just want to ask you about that you mentioned maybe can be helpful for people, the invisibility cloak tool. I got very curious. I just have to end with that. What is that and how can we use it?

Natalie Namaste 58:59

It's brilliant. My husband and I use it say we need to get to a place on time. We've got a time and here where I live in Central America, and there can be loads and loads of roadblocks. We've got all our papers. We could definitely stop at every robot and show our paper, no problem. But we just like, Come on, let it be smooth and easy. So let's make ourselves invisible so we can just get through and it works. So then no one stops us, and we just get there on time. So to make yourself invisible, you you can do it either with eyes closed and through your mind, or you can actually, like, bring your hand and I do this, like wrapping where I I visualize that I'm wrapping myself in invisible light, and I wrap around a few times going forward, and then I wrap around a few times going sideways, and I'm inside of this invisible cloak. It's an invisible bubble, invisible energy. Remember that light is. Transparent until it condenses into form. So it's the same. If you've got a glass and pyramid or prism and light, light hits it, you can't see the light, but when light hits the prism, it comes out the other side as a rainbow color. And so what we're doing with this practice is we're moving you from particle and form back into invisible. And so you actually raise your frequency, and you become invisible to the frequency of the people that are trying to, that are looking for you, or the people that, or the whatever it is you want to become invisible from. I mean, it's just fun, and you might just want to, you might be in a big group, and you, you just don't want the teacher to pick on you and ask you a question. And so you make yourself invisible. So you, you do this practice, you go into a different frequency, and then, and then you Yeah, you just enjoy it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:58

Can it work the other way around, that you can become more visible. Let's say you want to land a role in an audition or land a job, and just, you know, have people draw attention to you.

Natalie Namaste 1:01:13

Absolutely brilliant question. No one's ever asked me this, so I'm going to channel it new information coming through. This is the practice when you want to become more visible, take a deep breath in through your nostrils, drawing all the light of your soul from all directions of universes and dimensions back into your body. And as you breathe out, breathe down your body, down your feet, down your roots, anchoring into the present moment. Do this a few times, breathing in the light of your soul from all directions, breathing out and down, anchoring into your body in the present moment. And what is happening is all the light of your soul, you are remembering you all the light is coming back into presence and that you are able to take action, speak, be seen, be heard, be felt. And also, when you do this practice, it dissolves any blockages, any layers of lower mind that contracts or constricts you from being seen. This powerful light that comes in dissolves those blockages so that that lower mind doesn't go, oh, I don't want to be seen. It dissolves that. And then you just feel a readiness. I am me. I am the full light that I am, and I can be seen, felt heard. I am me. That's the affirmation that's coming in lovely.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:45

Thank you so much. This has been so inspiring. I've loved speaking with you, and I'd love to have you back because of many more questions, anywho my last questions for you today that I ask all my guests are, what is self love to you Natalie.

Natalie Namaste 1:03:02

It's self love. It is layered. The first layer is when you first realize that there is a self. You realize that there is, there is a split, that first there is, there is something deeper, there's a soul, and there's a mind. And then you realize, Wow, the mind has been hard on on this being that I am. And then you start to bring in more of a tenderness, a softening. You start to recognize where the mind is speaking harshly. And you start to bring a pink, softening light. And that mind gently starts to release and let go of its harsh patterns. And then something else happens, another expansion happens so that that starts off the self love. You start to love the self more and be kinder to yourself. Then you realize, huh, actually, I am so much more than an individual, separate self. I am the infinite pool of light and and that is what I really am. And so then another expansion happens, and you start to feel the love and the light that you are. And then there isn't a self that you need to feed love to, but rather you become an expression of love. And when you experience this, oh, you can feel it physically, a cracking open of your heart. You feel love move through you, and it's infinite. It's ever overflowing. There's enough love because it's infinite to give to others, to add to yourself, and it's actually not even a give or take. It's a state of being. And you, you then start to live and see through the eyes of love and the heart of love,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:52

Beautiful and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective, Natalie?

Natalie Namaste 1:04:57

Wow. What brilliant question. And so the deeper meaning to life is to awaken from the dream to remember that you are not the mind. You are not the human. You are something so much bigger and greater. You are consciousness. And you are consciousness that is then created this human experience. And you get to be a human. You get to dream. You get to dream yourself and and create. And when you have this, when you when you access this deeper meaning of life, life becomes so wonderful because you're no longer trying to achieve anything. Instead, you rest in the river of life, and you swim with the river of life, co creating with with the infinite being that you are while having the finite experience. And that is just wonderful. And everyone can can achieve this if they choose to

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:57

Natalie, if people want more, they want to connect with you. They want to be more inspired. Maybe work with you. How can they do so

Natalie Namaste 1:06:06

well, especially for your community, Jannecke, I'm doing a special offer, a gift like a discount off of a group session that I'm hosting on the fifth of February. It's called Angels and intuition, and so I guess you'll include the information or below. And so people can sign up and it's, it's going to be helping you to connect with your team of angels and to deepen your intuition so that you can channel and experience the the deep wisdom of your soul. So, so there's that. And then, um, other ways. I've got three ways to to connect. So I have my own YouTube community, which is Natalie, Namaste, Hila, where I channel messages, and people can ask questions, and I give like energy updates of what's coming up. And then I've got my Instagram, which is a whole different frequency. It's to give you powerful tools to to handle being a human, you know, to move through the emotional, mental stuff that we go through. And that's Natalie Namaste, with an underscore at the end. And then my, the other place you can connect with me is my my website, Natalie namaste.com, just go spend time there. There's a lot of resources. There's a free meditation to raise your frequency. There's there's loads, there's loads that I offer. So go, go and feel the energy and connect with me through through that.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:32

Thank you so much for coming back to the show and sharing your profound message today, Natalie.

Natalie Namaste 1:07:38

Such a pleasure. Namaste. Namaste.

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