Pleiadian Insights on Extraterrestrial Contact! With Lyssa Royal Holt

Lyssa Royal Holt 0:00

One of my students was just taking pictures in the dark, and what appeared standing next to me was a very clear extraterrestrial being with the big head, you know, really kind of skinny. They lived there for quite a long time when man was still primitive, and they had to incorporate a little bit of human or pre human DNA to help them adapt. But then at some point, they left, so they're coming back now and re establishing the relationships. And this time, it won't be as parent and child, it will be as equals. In order to understand the truth, your consciousness has to be evolved to a certain level. So what we're seeing worldwide, with all this deep, deep polarity, we see this as a negative thing, as if it's a sign of disease, but in reality, it's a sign of the change, and that all this shadow energy within us as individuals and also within our collective consciousness as species is having to come to the surface.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05

Lyssa Royal Holt, a warm welcome to the show.

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:09

Thank you so much. It's wonderful to meet you and share in this environment. I'm excited.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:15

I'm excited to meet you as well, and both showing up in pink and red are just That's funny, and you have the feeling where we're going to so we'll just go with this. And you are a transchanneler. You've been channeling for like, a long time, like, you are very experienced, and you've written several books, for instance, prepare for contact. You've had several extraterrestrial encounters, which I'm super curious to learn more about. And it seems like your passion is to help people understand the nature of consciousness, nothing less.

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:53

That's a good thing, but okay,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:56

big thing. And I understand you are channeling a being from the Pleiades, is that correct?

Lyssa Royal Holt 2:02

That's correct. Yes. Her name is Sasha, although that is not her real name. She said, I can't pronounce her real name, but she made it short so everyone can pronounce it.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:13

right. So how did your channeling journey start? Have you always had sort of an inclination for spirituality, or was it all of a sudden that it just came over you?

Lyssa Royal Holt 2:24

I think probably through childhood, I always was the weird one that was out in the forest by herself looking at the stars and and things like that. I mean, I was kind of that weird child, but in 1979 is actually when, like I would say, is the defining moment for my life. I was in college at the time, and I know people say I don't look old enough. I trust, trust me, I'm old enough. I was in college in 79 and I went home to visit my family, looked out the window, across the street was a forest, and in the forest, below the tree line was this bright, shining like a miniature Sun floating there in the forest. And I had already been excited about UFOs, even though I was what, like 18 or however old I was, and I really wanted to run out and see it, but my father was like, no, no, you can't go. And he really stopped me. But as we watched it this, it's kind of like a teardrop of fire came down off of it. And when we listened, there was like this low, pitched sound, and then it got higher, higher, higher, higher, until it reached a peak, and then the object disappeared. And so that was really like the time when I thought, I've got to get the answers to this. So I went back to college, and I was a psychology student, and coincidentally, I was in a part of the program we were learning about self hypnosis. So I learned how to put myself into like a hypnotic state for my classwork, and I started to notice that I was receiving information or guidance. I mean, it was very simple at that time, but it was a new experience. And so that was really how the universe, I think, kind of created the path that was really obvious to me. I've tried to walk off that path, and the universe always puts me right back on that path. So I finally had to surrender. So I'm making a very long story short here, but eventually I moved from the East Coast of the US to Los Angeles in California, and um. This was now the early 80s, so it was a time when Shirley, Shirley McLean's book out on a limb, came out, and she introduced channeling to the mainstream. And it had started already to happen for me, spontaneously, as well as continuing to have UFO experiences in Los Angeles. And then again, another defining moment was just my friend saying, Hey, let's go to see this channel that was going to be in the San Fernando Valley. And I said, Okay, thinking it was some somebody channeling a spirit doctor, but it ended up being Daryl Anka, channeling Bucha. So this was like 1985 and up until, from that point on, Daryl became a friend and a mentor, and pretty much the path was set for me at that at that point,

Jannecke Øinæs 5:56

interesting and interesting that you studied psychology as well.

Lyssa Royal Holt 6:00

Yes, I always was interested in the nature of consciousness and the unseen world, basically. But of course, psychology doesn't really teach you that. So I mean back then, anyway, now it's much more expansive, but that also was a way for me to keep investigating about consciousness itself

Jannecke Øinæs 6:22

and maybe keeping your sanity. Like, was there a moment where, like, what is going on with me?

Lyssa Royal Holt 6:27

Well, actually, it's it's interesting you brought that up because the really cool thing was that, as I got involved with channeling, darryl's wife introduced me to a teacher, so I started to go to classes, and the interesting thing was that the teacher and Daryl were part of a research program at UCLA, that's the University of California in Los Angeles, and the professors were studying The developmental process of channels and how they felt that for those that devote their their life to channeling that, if they do it from a framework of cleaning the self, healing the self, releasing, you know, old emotional wounds and all of that that We can then start to, in a sense, entrain our frequency with the beings, and raise our own consciousness as well. So I felt, because I had a degree in psychology, that it was safe because psychologists were overseeing the program.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:36

That makes sense, that's good, that they're actually giving credit to it like that's so important that these worlds are coming together. And I feel like they are more and more because it's exploding with channelers all over the world.

Lyssa Royal Holt 7:50

Absolutely. I mean, I even have a good friend who's done brain research on channels where, you know, they use the the electrodes and measure the brainwaves when people are channeling, and I've volunteered to be part of the project, but then the pandemic hit, and I didn't get to do it, but we can see now what we couldn't see. I started 40 years ago. We couldn't see that at that time, we didn't have the technology, but now we can see that the brain is actually responding when channels are channeling.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:24

Are channels going up in another like brain frequency, like gamma or something, or is it slower, like alpha or teta?

Lyssa Royal Holt 8:33

My friend tried to explain this to me. She's a PhD, so I'm gonna have to dumb it down a little bit, but she told me that. Well, first of all, I should say she did the experiment on Daryl Anga. So we, all those of us that know him, know he's genuine. And so she put the cap on him that has all the electrodes, and when he would start to channel, she noticed that the brain activity. All the brain waves actually spike, or they become very active. And she said, if she didn't think if he wasn't channeling, it would be of concern, almost like some type of brain episode, but because he's channeling, she knew what it was, but she also said, Yes, gamma becomes very, very active. And Bucha has said that that when we are in gamma state, that that is like the way to access universal consciousness. So it's kind of another validation of what's happening inside the channels brain. But the really, the kind of sad thing right now is that the technology is is still not really great, because what she explained to me is that it's really sensitive to movement, so when the channel starts talking, it. The brain, the the the machine can't really accurately understand what's happening, but that when Daryl or Bucha is was still and listening to the questions, then they could get a more accurate reading, and that's when he actually goes deeper. So you can they can definitely see something's happening in the brain of channels when we're channeling. It's exciting, interesting.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:28

I want to circle back to you having these sightings. And then, interestingly enough, you are channeling a Pleiadian, an extraterrestrial, not you know, it could be so many other beings. It could be Ascended Masters, yeah, so I'm curious if there's a connection there. Like, do you know if perhaps it was this being who visited you?

Lyssa Royal Holt 10:57

Yes, I, I've since come to know, of course, now we're talking 40 years, so I've had a lot of time to figure out what was happening. But what I've come to understand is that some of the contacts that I had when I was younger, some of which I didn't remember, that's came, that came as a memory and dreams later on, were actually her or other members of her species that were kind of like reminding me, remember why you came in. Here's our frequency. So when you encounter our frequency, it feels familiar. And it was kind of like these little reminders all through my life until I was finally ready.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:42

Would you like you like to share if there were any like specific situations where you were face to face with extraterrestrials, or was it more like in a dream state

Lyssa Royal Holt 11:54

over the over the decades, I ,this is like a big topic, because I've had so many experiences, it's kind of hard to know where to start. But what

Jannecke Øinæs 12:08

the most exciting ones the most?

Lyssa Royal Holt 12:11

Okay, well, one of my passions is understanding how consciousness responds when a contact is happening. I guess that's the cycle the psychologist in me that is interested in this. So, for example, in nine, 2017 I believe I was doing a contact retreat. I do these sometimes. This one was in Japan, where we're in a remote location, and I take people outside, and we do meditation and contact work. And it was just kind of a normal evening, nothing extraordinary happened. But when it was over, one of my students was just taking pictures in the dark, and there what appeared standing or sitting or floating something next to me was a very clear extraterrestrial being with the big head and, you know, really kind of skinny, and I'm looking right at it, but I don't remember it. I didn't see it. And that was kind of another validation for me of how there's so much going on on levels that we are not yet learning to perceive, but that as our consciousness begins to to expand and grow, eventually I think we're going to be able to perceive it. So I've had a number of those types of experiences that only in retrospect did I know what they were.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:47

I interviewed a guy called Tim Tactics, it hasn't been published yet, and he said he has worked like in with classified material on extraterrestrials. And he said that our nervous system is not ready to perceive like a real life alien standing in physicality in front of us, and that's a lot of the reason why they are not like here we are.

Lyssa Royal Holt 14:17

Yes, I would really agree with that because of the experiences that I've had, there was another one that's more recent, where I was standing with a group of 12 people, and we were shooting. I was shooting with my iPhone into a dark sky. Nothing was there, and somebody standing next to me was also shooting at the same time, but when I reviewed the video later, there was a triangular craft very close that came into the frame of my camera and then and then left at the same time that one of the people standing behind me said, I have chills, and that. So is validating what you just said about your guest about the nervous system. Our nervous system can feel it, but we haven't yet learned maybe, how to link what we're feeling with our perceptional abilities.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:15

Yeah, and what he also said that really fascinated me was that if you see something you've never seen before, you don't know if how you're going to react like that might be a shock, because you see a form that has never hit you. Is possible to exist even like apparently, there are beings that look like things we cannot even imagine.

Lyssa Royal Holt 15:44

Yes, so when I'm doing contact work, sometimes I really have had to train myself to try to drop into that feeling sense rather than be in the brain. And when I'm in that feeling sense, I know more about what's happening around me, but learning to trust that is hard, and sometimes I get feedback or communication from them. Do this, do that. When I'm in that state, and I don't know why I'm doing it, but I do it, and then I find out why, like, walk into a dense fog, for example, and meet someone in there, but that is all on another level of consciousness. It's not the concrete level that we are so used to reality being defined for us that way.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:34

I'm curious the knowledge you've received from what was her name, Sasha. Sasha, yes, Sasha, it might be a lot. Can you explain a little bit about what she has, or she or it has, told you about her civilization, how they exist, what kind of lives they're living? I'm super curious of that.

Lyssa Royal Holt 16:59

Yes, you can imagine. She's told me a lot, and yes, she's a she, and she is similar to a relationship with Daryl and Bucha is it's supposedly she says another incarnation of myself, which I do feel is very true, because our consciousnesses have started to integrate anyway. So she's physical, in a different state of consciousness, of course, a different vibration of reality. But their civilization is, is probably what we would consider to be idyllic, in the sense that there's no war or anything like that. They have come to a place where not only they've integrated the polarities out in their world, but they've integrated the polarities within themselves that cause conflict. So they have a very strong and integrated emotional body, and their their reality is a reflection of that. So it's very much. Of course, her civilization has many, many planets, so I can only really talk about her specific planet, which she calls mandala, the planet. She's used the word mandala as a metaphor for her planet, but it's very much balanced with nature. And that's, that's a lot of their philosophy is they they balance or integrate themselves with their environment in such a way that harmony is always present. So I know I'm, I'm kind of all over the place and answering the question, because I really don't know where to start in terms of details. So you can certainly ask for details.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:42

Well, okay, so I'm curious if they're, it seems like they're they are higher evolved, and they are physical. So do they eat? Do they sleep?

Lyssa Royal Holt 18:53

So yes, they do. They're very similar to us, because they're related to us, right? And she's told me a story. You might find this interesting because you're in Norway, actually, but she's told me the story that in very, very ancient days on earth, when man was still primitive, that a group of their ancestors came to earth and lived here for a long time in the area that's now like Scandinavia and your area, basically. And they lived there for quite a long time. And to adapt to the planet, they had to incorporate a little bit of human or pre human DNA to help them adapt. But then at some point they left, they had to leave the planet. So her people now actually have a little bit of DNA that is connected to us, not to mention, of course, back back the the progenitor species that we're all connected to. So in that sense, then very similar to us. In. They they eat, but not the way we do. It's much lighter, much simpler. They have hair. They look human. They could probably pass for us on the street if they wore sunglasses, maybe. And regular clothes, not their usual clothes, interesting. They're our family in the literal way.

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Lyssa Royal Holt 21:40

in a way, yes, and especially, she talks about 13,000 years ago was a big, let's say, passage point in the our species cycle of evolution. And it was a time when we were start, we were going to start falling into what she calls a winter cycle, which is kind of a sleep cycle. So before that, they were here on the planet, interacting with us face to face, one on one. They were younger. Of course, we were younger, and we developed a relationship. But the relationship back then was more like parent and child, and so when we started to fall into the sleep cycle, they realized they couldn't really do any more work. So when they left 13,000 years ago, it was a big wound for us, which is like being abandoned by parents, and a big wound for them to leave behind the children they loved. So we created religions, in a way, to kind of fill the hole, so to speak. And that got really distorted, as as you know, over time. So now here we are in the opposite part of the cycle, the cycles 26,000 years so 13,000 years later. Now we're coming out of that sleep cycle, and we're moving into the spring and summer cycle of our evolutionary experience. And so they're coming back now and reestablishing the relationships in this time. It won't be as parent and child, it will be as equals. That's what we're working toward.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:23

That's interesting. So that is why they're here. Because I was going to ask you, why are they here, and why do they want to connect again?

Lyssa Royal Holt 23:31

Yes, that's a big reason why they're here is, in a sense, they're fulfilling what was unfinished from the past and not unfinished through any fault of anyone, but just because of the cycles of evolution. So now we've had this 13,000 years to grow as a civilization, and now they're coming back for the next phase, and they view this interaction with us as a sacred duty. So it's not they're they're very strongly adherent to the non interference principle, so they don't interfere, but they have a sacred duty to help uplift consciousness that is especially connected to them. So it's part of the Galactic family's sacred duty.

Jannecke Øinæs 24:26

Is this a case only for the Pleiadians, that they play a special role, or other other species that also are involved?

Lyssa Royal Holt 24:34

The Pleiadians, of course, do play a special role because of the genetic connection with them. They're really one of our closest family members, genetically. But there are other civilizations as well. Sirius, for example, is a civilization that was also present 13,000 years ago with the Pleiadians and doing that kind of work then so the. Are very active now, but also there's so many others that maybe go by different names, but have basically the same heart connection and feeling of sacred duty.

Jannecke Øinæs 25:16

So what have they told you about? Or if they have about these years that we find ourselves in right now, because it seems like it's peaking.

Lyssa Royal Holt 25:25

Oh yes, it's peaking. They have said that as we go through the waking up cycle, the transition, she calls it between third and fourth density, that this is the time when everything that is unhealed has to purge to the surface. So what we're seeing worldwide with all this deep, deep polarity, she has said so many times that we see this as a negative thing, as if it's a sign of disease, but in reality, it's a sign of the change, and that all this shadow energy within us as individuals and also within our collective consciousness as a species is having to come to the surface. The analogy she's used is like when you are boiling a pot of water on the stove, you see the bubbles, which is the turmoil that we see on the planet. But what we don't see is that the heat that's creating the bubbles is the activated light of our own new and evolving consciousness, and that is what is creating this, this chaos on the surface. So I guess that's some good news to share.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:48

How long do we need to be in that chaos before it gets better?

Lyssa Royal Holt 26:53

I have the same question, believe me, and I know you know what I'm going to say, but she says it takes as long as it takes, but that we, each of us as individuals, can aid the process on an individual level by healing whatever it is within us that we have not yet healed. And especially we can look at our lives, where our challenges are, or where our wounds are that we haven't healed. If we do that, it's it's our it's us facing our shadow on the individual level, which then affects the collective shadow and can move us through this transformation in a much more rapid way.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:38

Hmm, I interviewed Darryl Anka and asked him about disclosure, and asked several guests about that, and many are saying that disclosure, in what way or the other, is going to happen pretty fast, actually, pretty soon. What are your thoughts about that?

Lyssa Royal Holt 28:02

So many people have asked Sasha about it, and, um, first of all, the word disclosure is an interesting word, because the definition out there in the mainstream is when the authorities are going to tell us this is real, but the authorities don't know anything. Most of them don't know, except for, you know, the the underground groups that have been controlling the narrative for so long. So the disclosure itself is going to be when we as individuals begin to acknowledge this truth within us, and then it spreads to the mass level. So disclosure is going to come more on a grassroots level than it will from the authorities, so to speak, telling us what the truth is, because we all know that they probably will not tell us the truth, not necessarily because they're deliberately hiding it, but because in order to understand the truth, your consciousness has to be evolved to a certain level. So anyway, in terms of how it's going to come through individual consciousness transformation, and this is one of the reasons why Sasha is so excited about doing what she calls contact work, because it brings people to a level of consciousness that is outside the individual identity, where a common ground can be reached, and we meet energetically other consciousnesses in the universe, and as we do this more often, it literally changes our consciousness, and that changing consciousness, which is already happening, is what is going to create the disclosure. So all these people saying it's happening soon, I feel they're right, because there are so. Many people doing this kind of work, that the consciousness is indeed changing,

Jannecke Øinæs 30:06

And is that about setting an intention and being in a relaxed state? Is that how we connect? I'm just assuming there might be many out there listening, watching who wants to have contact.

Lyssa Royal Holt 30:19

Um, that's a really good place to start for me. If I was going to add to advise someone on where to start, I would say, if you've never done this type of work before, just start by sitting quietly and being in your heart. If you try to reach out with your mind, like, what am I perceiving? Or, hello, hello. With the mind, it's a frequency that is is not really resonant with them. The Heart frequency is so when we sit quietly, and if you don't know how to go into the heart, I know if you look at the night sky, at the beautiful stars, you go into the heart. So that's a great place to start, and from there, let your heart be the one that reaches out. And that's the easiest methodology, although there's lots of different methodologies that people teach.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:18

Hmm, maybe I feel like we're ready to welcome Sasha. If you would like to do some channeling,

Lyssa Royal Holt 31:26

sure, absolutely, we you've been hitting so many of the big questions. I'm curious what Sasha is going to say.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:35

Super curious.

Lyssa Royal Holt 31:37

Okay, so I will go into the channeling stages for the viewers, I'm what I call a semi conscious channel. It feels like I'm asleep and dreaming, almost like I am in a backseat of a car, looking out the window while the the being that I'm channeling and my higher self is driving the car. So it's a it's kind of a disconnected experience. When I'm finished, I may or may not remember details, and then it will fade away like a dream. So that's kind of what my style is, for those viewers that are interested in that. So it will just take a minute until I make the connection or so, and then Sasha will be here, and we'll begin. All right. Greetings to you, my dear, and to all of your viewers. This is Sasha here. It is an honor to be invited.

Jannecke Øinæs 32:30

Thank you so much for being here. I would love to hear your perspective on what's going on on Mother Earth right now,

Lyssa Royal Holt 32:41

As our channel has shared with you, we know on the surface it looks like there is massive chaos, and yes, on the surface there is, however, the chaos is happening because the light of your consciousness is being ignited, and that light, that energy, is bringing to the surface what needs to be released as you are entering a new cycle. The channel talked about the 26,000 year cycle, and we like to equate it with the idea of seasons, and you all know what seasons are. So you have for the last 13,000 years, been in a metaphorical season of winter and autumn, which has been a time where you experience the deepest polarity we've called that third density. However, now, shall we say, around the time 2011 2012 you began to make the turn out of the winter cycle and into spring. And you know, in your world, you have something you call spring house cleaning, let's say, and we could say it's very, very similar in that now that you are moving into these new cycles of consciousness, and consciousness is expanding what no longer serves You, the hidden shadow, the unhealed parts of yourself, the unrecognized polarity within you, is now having to make a shift. So for those of you who have been doing your spiritual work on an inner level, you are aware of this, and we could say you might have a little bit of an easier time, though, we know that maybe it doesn't feel so easy, but for those who are not necessarily spiritually aware of what is happening, this can be a very, very painful time. However, it. A sacred time. What we mean by that is that every civilization goes through this birth process. As you know, birth is not really that pleasant in the sense of it can be painful at times. So the experience itself may not necessarily be joyful, but where you are heading is a necessary and sacred passage that all civilizations experience. So we ask you then in terms of how to navigate it, to do your best to stay focused internally with your own inner healing, because if you stay focused outside, with all the craziness, you will lose your energy, you will lose your focus, and you will stay in that polarized state. If you go inward as much as you can and tend your own garden, so to speak, it will assist you to navigate this rough road that is unfolding right now in your world. That's a short version, my dear.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:18

Thank you for that. I'm going to jump into something completely different, and that is the building blocks of this universe. And I've just become curious lately about numbers and mathematics. Not Not that I'm very smart in math, but it seems like it's all about numbers, and I'm curious why. For instance, there are seven notes on a scale and seven colors, and seven appears again and again, even in fairy tales, especially in the regions fairy tales so and we have sacred geometry. So I would love for you to share a little bit about the building blocks of this universe when it comes to numbers. Hey guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes, and my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness, to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so. Thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below, and now let's go back to the episode.

Lyssa Royal Holt 37:39

All right. Well, as you, as you hinted at, we can't really talk about numbers without talking about sacred geometry, because the the ideas are very connected. So we're going to give you a metaphor, and this is something we use in workshops sometimes when we are talking about creation and how consciousness embodied, let's say the universe. Let's start with the idea that all is one and what there's really only one consciousness in creation, looking through many eyes. But if we go back to that time when there was only one, one is at rest, so one consciousness, then there's no polarity, so there's no dynamic for movement. There is simply rest. And then, metaphorically speaking, the idea of, I wonder what it would be like not to know myself, or I wonder what it would be like not to be one. Created the idea of the first polarity. So well we should say duality, not polarity. Duality is like yin yang. It's still balanced, but you see opposites. Then the idea of, let's explore polarity. Let's explore the idea of not knowing myself even further, which means going into bodies where you've forgotten who you are. Okay, we're getting to your question. We know it sounds like we're not, but we're getting there. So then you have a doorway, let's say, through which light and energy and consciousness has to solidify itself into a physical reality. So there must then be a bridge, and the bridge is what translates the non physical into the physical. And we would go with the idea of sacred geometry as a. As a first step, because geometry and numbers is like a template that represents balanced universal truth, adjusted just slightly to be able to then translate spirit into matter. So we're going to give you another analogy with this, and we hope it's not too nerdy, but maybe it will make more sense. There's something in your world called phi, and phi is a representation of spirit. It has no beginning and no end, truly. And then there is something on your world called Fibonacci, which is a number sequence that has no end but it has a beginning point. It's a, let's say, a metaphor for physical reality. So here you have the idea of spirit as phi or energy, and you have the idea of Fibonacci or geometry as a template that then light shifts into matter and create the physical universe. So when you are in a body, for example, and if you are in third density and you're very, very polarized, you don't necessarily see the symmetry or the harmony around you, but you can feel it like in nature, for example. However, when your consciousness begins to evolve and you move more into fourth density, then you begin to see that harmony and that symmetry. So we know many people often talk about, well, I keep seeing the numbers 444, or whatever it is, and that is, let's say, one of those moments where a window in your consciousness opens and you're perceiving, or you're connecting to the symmetry of creation, rather than the separated or polarized version of its reflection. Does this make sense, or is it a little bit too out there?

Jannecke Øinæs 42:25

No, no, no. It's super interesting, and it feels a bit similar to some of the teachings from Law of One. Is that correct? Or do you know that? You probably know that channeling,

Lyssa Royal Holt 42:40

we would have to access the channel's memory. Perhaps she read it a long time ago, decades, decades, decades ago. So we cannot say it is similar or not. We cannot access that memory,

Jannecke Øinæs 42:53

all right, um, what about the universal laws like the law of attraction, law polarity, law of gender. Are these laws? The, are, okay? Do you have the same laws on the Pleiades? Are these universal, really universal laws, or is it just our laws on this planet?

Lyssa Royal Holt 43:18

We're going to be a little picky with the word law, because in your reality, it sounds like something very strict. We would say more the idea of principle. So when you're talking about the principle of duality, for example, there are some principles like that that are inescapable in the physical universe. Now, there are some beings who have balanced those principles, or have balanced duality, for example, in such a way that it's not even visible that they are experiencing duality, but yet it is there under the surface. So we can say that in general, those principles are universal. However, depending upon your state of consciousness or your your state of evolution as a physical being, you may see or interpret those principles in a way that reflects your state of consciousness. So for example, what we mean by that is in a very, very polarized third density reality. You might see rigid genders or rigid black and white, and the mind will tell you you have to choose one or the other. There's either light or dark, there's good and evil, all of those ideas and maybe say it's. A it's a law, but it's really a translation of the principle into the level of consciousness that the civilization can understand at that level. So then when you move into fourth density, for example, my civilization, that law, or that principle, takes on a new meaning, a new expansive meaning. It's no longer, let's say, limited or rigid. It still exists, but it's a little bit more fluid and it's a little bit more integrated. So they do exist, but the perception of what it really means changes as your consciousness evolves. Does that make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 45:45

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm curious about creating our own reality, which a lot of spiritual teachers are saying we are, and I believe that to a degree. So to what degree do we perhaps, create our own reality individually, and then to what degree do we have the divine orchestration, or the Divine Will creating our reality

Lyssa Royal Holt 46:14

we really like the way you said, to a degree, because we read the energy behind that. Very, very well. Thank you for sending it to us. We felt it. There is a misunderstanding about this idea of you create your reality. And let's put it this way, in a third density reality, or an unawakened reality, there's the belief that the ego, self, the personality, is the one running the show, but the ego is like an anchor to keep you focused in physicality so that you can stay and play in the playground of polarity, but it is a mechanism. It is not the real you. So when people say, I create my reality, if they are meaning the personality creates the reality, we would say, No, the personality has no power to create the reality. What does create the reality? However, is the the strongest energy that you are carrying within you. So for example, if the strongest energy you are carrying within you is love. That love will take you on the path of creating a reality that reflects that idea. If the strongest energy within you is fear or lack, then you will move along a path that reflects that strongest energy within you. So that's one way we're going to answer the question. Another way, then, which you hinted at has to do with this idea of personal will versus Divine Will. Ultimately, Divine Will is all there is. You have personal will to to pick up this cup. You have personal will to answer an email, so to speak. But when you're talking about the idea of moving energetically through your reality, Divine Will is, let's say, always, the motor that has to be used to move through your reality. If you have a strong connection with your what you call your higher self, or your divine energy, then you move often in flow with that, even though it may seem like the personality is making the choice, but you're still flowing, and you can change direction. If you are more operating from the the the ego wanting to control the reality, then you're going to find a lot more difficulty and a lot more challenges. So this transformation of consciousness, then that's happening on your world as you move from third to fourth. Density is a definitive shift from the dominance of ego will, which is very much solar plexus energy, into a reconnection with your natural state of consciousness, which is moving with the Divine Will, and that is more resting with the heart. So we dropped a lot of bombs in there. What do you think? Oh,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:56

yeah, no, it really resonates. And you mentioned. Creation, the real you and I get really curious what the real me is, and what the real Lyssa is, and what the soul is in in general. Because who are you? Who are we playing characters in a physical incarnations, incarnation, all of us,

Lyssa Royal Holt 50:18

absolutely yes. We're going to give you a little diagram here. This is something that we use in workshops quite often. So you have a sphere, a circle here, and it's representing the one consciousness. It's a little limited in terms of its representation, but that's what it represents. And remember, we talked about the idea that this one consciousness wanted to know what it was like not to know itself. So what it did in order to do so, is that within itself, it created a realm of separation and then fragmented itself into many, many small pieces that you could perhaps say are individual beings, individual souls. However, the truth is that no matter how deep you go into separation, you're never leaving the organism of the true self. So the false self is really the character there that has been, as you said, playing a role like an actor on the stage. The awakening process, then is what happens when the character begins to recognize it is more than the character it is playing. That consciousness is what is animating it. And as as you begin then to shift awareness from the consciousness of the character into the greater consciousness that you are, you begin then to move into that we could call it true self, the greater you, the big self.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:05

Are we in touch with that our results during sleep. I've had some out of body experiences, some lucid dreams, and when I am conscious in the astral realm, or some call it astral realm. There's a lot there. So could you share some...

Lyssa Royal Holt 52:27

An understatement?

Jannecke Øinæs 52:29

Do you share a little bit about what the astral realm is and where we go when we sleep?

Lyssa Royal Holt 52:36

That's also another big subject, because the astral realm, to some degree, is still in the realm of separation, but just non physical. So for example, when you have experiences in dream state where you might go into another reality, or you might have another experience you are go moving actually, into another fractal of the one that you are experiencing for whatever lesson you need to learn. So that's still happening within this realm of separation. However, the question may then be, well, then how do you tap into the greater self? And we would say this is kind of a paradox, because one of the easiest ways, well, we say easy, maybe not easy for everyone, but is through meditation. But it is not busy mind meditation. We're talking about the kind of meditation, or even the type of experience when you are maybe sitting in nature, not even formally meditation, meditating where you have that feeling of connectedness with no thought, no commentary, that's when you start moving, breaking, let's say, breaking the barriers here, And moving into breaking the barriers and moving into the greater self. So if we're to compare them your civilization with my civilization, we have learned how to fluidly move from the character which is useful in a physical reality into the greater self, but we live mostly through the greater self, and that greater self is, in a sense, channeling through the character. That means then we don't have commentary. We don't have the egoic commentary. Humans, we hear from you so bothers you many, many times you are moving into the state of consciousness. It's a process, of course, but you're moving into the state of consciousness, where you are breaking out of the separation and beginning to access the greater self, and as you do, the mind will get quieter and quieter. We promise you that

Jannecke Øinæs 55:29

that's good. Um, could you say something personal about my connection or non connection with the Pleiades? I just feel that there's a connection there.

Lyssa Royal Holt 55:42

Yes, yes, we would say it's quite obvious to us that you have the connection. And we can say your energy to us feels familiar because we have encountered another you in our realm. So yes, yes, do not be so surprised, my dear, because usually when one feels a connection with another species or another civilization is it is because there is another you there. If all consciousness is fractal, and the fractals are representing the individual expressions of the one hologram of creation, then you Yes, will have other use that you resonate with, and one way to know who they are is by listening to your heart and listening to how you feel. So in in our realm, then there is one who would be considered another fractal of you. And if you wish, we can give you a homework assignment, if you wish to do it just we know the mind might be doubting, but for the sake of the homework, and this is for any of you viewing, not just for Janaka, pretend it is real, that that that that person is there, and open your heart to that other person. And if you do it enough, do it repeatedly, maybe just even a minute a day, whatever works for you, you'll start to get glimmers, perhaps, of that other reality. This is a really important exercise. We're going to make a full circle here now to what the channel was talking about earlier, about this idea of contact work, and how it is helping to create the consciousness necessary for disclosure. So if all of you do this kind of work that we are describing for jannecke here, then what you're doing is you're connecting with another fractal of you. You are, in a sense, opening a channel or and removing any blockages so that the energy can flow freely from that realm into the human realm, and this integrates your own consciousness, uplifts you, and, let's say, makes you fertile ground to be of assistance in the whole disclosure movement. Energetically. Can you digest that? My dear,

Jannecke Øinæs 58:39

beautiful, All right, wonderful. Um, it's interesting. My mind just went blank there speaking about the mind.

Lyssa Royal Holt 58:51

Good. Sorry. Sorry for interrupting you, but that's very good. Your mind went blank because you went into the experience of what we're saying, and that's exactly what we're talking about. Congratulations.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:04

Thank you. What is the most important question we can ask ourselves at this time?

Lyssa Royal Holt 59:12

Whoa, well, the first one that comes to mind is the question that's been asked by your ancients all the way back, probably to pre recorded history, and that question is, who am I? Because the first answer will always be surface level. I am human. I am a teacher. I am this and that. But those are answers that are happening in the separated realm. As you keep asking that question, you will naturally and you keep asking the question and following the threads, you will naturally take yourself out of that realm and into the realm. Realm of the true self, where the answer no longer is in words, but it is in True Knowingness, through the experiences, experience of that consciousness itself, that is what is going to transform your reality as you all begin to ask these questions and embrace the greater reality outside of the small self.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:27

Thank you for visiting us today. Is there any final words for our audience today?

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:00:34

Simply, we would say to all of you watching how deeply honored we are to be invited to work with you, not just in this program, but on your world, because, as was said previously, this is a sacred time on your world, and we don't want you To feel discouraged. We don't want you to feel fear, though we understand what you see around you may be fearful. Do your best to know, to remember, to feel that you are infinitely loved by so many in the unseen realms and infinitely assisted by many in the unseen realms, do your own inner work that you need to do, and trust that that is enough for you to be of service to this transformation. Please accept all of our love and all of our gratitude to each and every one of you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:46

Thank you

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:01:48

and thank you, my dear, for being of service in the way that you are, because you are certainly earning your cosmic brownie points as as is said in American English, it's like gold stars, you are acknowledged, and it is very, very appreciated. We will bring the channel back now. Much love to all of you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:14

All right, how are you?

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:02:19

A little disoriented. She was a bit intense today.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:23

Ah, maybe it was the deep, big questions,

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:02:28

yeah, and I had the feeling she does this thing where she does a lot of energy transmission when she's speaking that delivers more than the words, and I felt her really turning it on today. So I think that's why I feel a little disoriented.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:48

That was very interesting. Though I have always felt this connection with a Pleiades, but I've never sort of investigated it too much, but I feel there is a connection there. I just feel it in my heart.

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:03:02

Oh, that's right, I'm remembering she gave you homework

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:07

she did, and the whole audience as well. This has been super interesting. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I have a few questions I ask all my guests, and the first one is, what is self love to you, Lyssa.

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:03:24

that's a good question. There's so many ways I could answer it that the first thing that comes to mind self love is recognizing ourselves as a piece of the one, and because we are all pieces of the one, we can see ourselves reflected in each other. So as we treat others with kindness and with love, we are also giving it back to ourselves, and so that's one way to access self love for me, is to know that we are all just a mirror of each other,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:04

beautiful and what is the deeper meaning of life, from your perspective,

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:04:11

Deeper meaning of life is a conscious understanding of why we came here instead of getting well, I'll use the analogy of the actor on the stage. I think we talked about that, or Sasha talked about that, that when we begin to recognize we are just an actor, that we can step back and watch the show, we then can access our true consciousness, the big self, as was discussed earlier. And that journey is the journey of awakening. And I think that is the meaning of life, is to awaken ourselves from the dream of separation. Mm.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:00

Hmm, where can people find you if they want to work with you, if they want to have a contact? Because I know that you're teaching a channeling to others. And also you just mentioned this ET contact so

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:05:19

well, my website will always have my schedule listed. It's www, dot, Lyssa, l, y, s, s, a royal, R, o, y, a, l.net, Instagram. Lyssa_channelings_official. And I'm on Facebook, you can see those links. And on YouTube, you can see those links on my webpage, and I do. I'll be in, I'll be in Mount Shasta in August, doing the Lemurian life Expo and some contact work in the mountains of Mount Shasta. So that's the big event coming.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:58

Thank you so much for coming to the show today and sharing your wisdom.

Lyssa Royal Holt 1:06:02

Thank you. My pleasure. Thank you for the invitation, and thank you to everyone you.