What if the world as we know it is part of a carefully constructed illusion, a “false matrix,” designed to keep us disconnected from our divine essence? This is the intriguing perspective shared by Kerry K, a profound spiritual teacher and guide. In this episode, Kerry sheds light on profound spiritual concepts, including the false matrix and its impact on humanity.
The False Matrix vs. The Divine Matrix
Kerry delves into the concept of the false matrix—a manufactured reality designed to disconnect humanity from its divine origins. Within this matrix, people often find themselves limited to a linear, mental existence, unaware of their true multidimensional nature. However, she also offers hope, explaining that the influx of light and spiritual awakening occurring globally are unraveling this false reality. The divine matrix, our original home, is a space of boundless connection, love, and infinite potential. According to Kerry, the return to this matrix signifies not only liberation but also the restoration of our true lifespans, which she says could span thousands of years.
A Personal Journey Between Worlds
Kerry’s early experiences of “walking between worlds” provided her with a profound understanding of the multidimensional nature of existence. Her accounts of traversing realms beyond the veil, including the astral plane and higher dimensions, offer a glimpse into the expansive, interconnected nature of the universe. These experiences have shaped her mission to help others reconnect with their divine essence and navigate the complexities of spiritual awakening.
Awakening from the False Matrix
One of Kerry’s most powerful messages is the ripple effect of light within the false matrix. She emphasizes that even a single awakened individual can create waves of transformation, destabilizing the control structures that have kept humanity confined. She envisions a collective awakening, where millions of people embody their light, dissolving the false matrix and birthing the divine matrix on Earth.
New Beginnings in a New Era
As we enter the transformative energy of 2025, Kerry highlights the importance of staying grounded amidst external chaos. From political disruptions to energetic shifts, she urges us to tune into our inner wisdom rather than being swayed by fear and distraction. This, she believes, is the key to anchoring higher frequencies and creating a harmonious future.
Kerry’s wisdom is a call to remember who we are as divine beings and embrace our inner power to awaken. Her insights remind us that even in the face of external chaos, we hold the potential to transcend limitations and co-create a reality rooted in love, connection, and infinite possibility.
Transcript of the interview
Kerry K 0:00
These are the engineers of the false matrix. Very wisely, they have always stayed hidden, because how can we possibly go to a war with the enemy that we cannot see, that we don't even know exists? That's you, and that's me, and that's the people listening. We're the population of the false matrix. Unprecedented things, as you will know, are taking place on the planet. We have radical influxes of light, and it's like a pop awakening that cannot be controlled, cannot be suppressed. And I spoke about the impact of one person in the false matrix. Now imagine the impact of a million. We're moving into liberation from the false matrix, the return to the Divine matrix where we come from, which also means the return of our true lifespan, which is 1000s of years. We're not meant to live 60,70, or if we're really lucky, we got good genes 100 years. That's not a natural lifespan at all. Our natural lifespan is between 1 and 2000 years.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:05
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Kerry K 1:23
Thank you so much.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:26
It's lovely having you here all the way from South Africa, or streaming from South Africa, and me in Norway. I discovered you on other podcasts, and I just felt I had to interview you, because I felt on one side that you were presenting sort of different spiritual perspectives, and I've heard before, not contradicting, but just filling out more of the gap and questions I've had. And also you have a very unique and interesting story. You have been walking between worlds. Ever since you were a very young child, you've had some experiences before consciousness. I heard that was the expression in my mind that is a pre birth experience. And for me, when I heard you talk about it, I learned more about you know how it's like being a soul coming down to this earth, which we've all done, but be curious what, what did happen? You know, before I incarnated, and today, you are a profound psychic, and you help people connect with their own divinity, and you had tons of near death experiences, not just one, but tons. So we'll see where we go today. But I would sort of love to go back, if you could start with your earliest memory of the other side, how you experienced the other side, beyond the veil.
Kerry K 3:00
It was the best way I can describe the other side. And my early experiences of it were my other home. It wasn't I never even had words to say to you, oh, I'm going to the other side, because it had become so much a part of my world and my life, probably even before language had originated for me. I was traversing between two worlds, so it was a very familiar place. It was my normal, but I only realized when I was in school. Oh, this is weird. Other people don't know this stuff. And, you know, still today, people ask me this one resounding question. They say, but Kerry, how do you know? How do you know this stuff? And I say to them, as much as you're intrigued by, how do you know, I'm equally intrigued with, how do you not know? Because to me, this has been all that there is living in that pre consciousness state, which was a part of my formative years, just to fill your listeners in they probably don't know I used to be very, very ill as a child, and I would flit between worlds because illness would take me there. And it was never, you know, people say, Oh, that's terrible, but it wasn't terrible. It was really a beautiful thing. It really was. I got to traverse through the universes. I got to traverse to the other side of the false matrix. I got to understand the makeup of the false matrix. I got to then go beyond the confines and the limitations of where we were born to live, and I got to go into that place called the divine matrix, which is God's original creation template. That's our original home that we come from. And that's a very expansive state. So I was used to being in that expansive state, because that's what it feels like when you are home. You are everywhere. And then the crazy part of it all is trying to fit back into the human body. You know, every time I would start to get well, and I was going to be discharged from hospital and I was starting to get well again, it would be a terrifying experience for me not to be so sick. It was a terrifying experience to realize, Oh no, Kerry, you're coming back into a human body, and somehow you have to compress everything that you are in these higher realms, which feels like beyond infinity, some somehow, now you have to compress all of this into what feels like a teeny, tiny, little ant. So that was, that was the weird part being in the body. This was the weird part for me, because I always felt heavy and gangly and uncoordinated in a human body, and yet, when I was flying out there, I knew exactly who I was. Movement was so fluid. Wisdom was so instant. There was no such thing as questions. People always say, oh, did you have lots of questions? No, no, you have zero questions. You have nothing to ask, because you're not even operating from the linear mind. You're plugged directly into the heart mind of God, and that's where I was. So this was my early early years, until probably my early 20s, when I hit my early 20s, then I started getting healthier, which meant that it was harder for me to disengage from the physical body. And then I had to start a whole new teaching. In my early 20s, I had to start learning. Okay? Now, now I have to integrate all of this. Now I have to apply this wisdom. I cannot have this wisdom and not be able to bring it down into the body. Because I knew that I was coming in to teach and knew that I was coming in to teach people what I couldn't put words to. Took me years to do this, to find words for what I knew but couldn't yet articulate so that that was the next part of the journey, was learning to integrate everything
Jannecke Øinæs 7:11
fascinating. There were a few things that I would love to go into now, when I've had many interviews, some speak about this realm and this dimension, and I, you know, in the beginning, I was like, Okay, I know the dimensions, but now I don't have a clue. It just seems like it's getting bigger and bigger and and hard to put into words, because there's such a limitation in the in the human language or languages. So could you explain, like, who were you on the other side, and what does that feel like, and where were you like, in which realm, which dimension? Because you mentioned the false matrix, and that is something I'm also curious about. What is okay?
Kerry K 8:01
So this took many, many years traversing to what we call the other side of the veil. Literally took me many, many years, because when I initially started to cross over, I was going into what many people will call the astral realm. Some people will also refer to this as the fourth dimension. This is where most people go when they have an out of body experience or a near death experience. So that's almost like the entry points to the other side. And as you were asking me this question, you said something so beautiful. You said, Now you don't know. You thought you knew, and now you don't know anymore. Why? Because it's bigger and bigger. There's more and more. And that's exactly truth. That's exactly truth because as I began to traverse the other side, it was like a door would open and I would go, Oh, now I've seen it. And I would walk through that door, and then it would lead to another door and another and another and another, because that's the infinite nature of the universe that we live in. People talk about dimensions, but they really think from a linear, literal place. So we want numbers. We want definitions, because that's it's not a bad thing, it's just how we're conditioned to think. So. When I traversed to the other side, I also began to learn the different dimensions. And I would be very smart and go, Oh, yippee. Look at me now I'm in the fifth dimension. Now I'm in the sixth dimension. Now I'm in the seventh dimension. And then I would go all the way to the 12th. And then I realized, oh, wow, there's something beyond the 12th. Because I thought 12 was all there was. Then I went to 15, then I went to 17, then I went to 100 then I went to 1000 then I went to uncountable, because that's what there is. We live in an infinite universe, and our mind wants to contain infinity. Our mind wants to make infinity to. A number, and it can't do that. We can con ourselves, because that's what it does. It makes us feel safe. If we give ourselves a number and we go, there are x amounts of dimensions, this is what they mean. And we study it, and we now apply logic and linearity to a world of energy. That's what the other dimensions are. They are worlds of energy, and they're so infinite and so multi dimensional that you could go to any one singular dimension and spend millions of years uncovering and discovering all that there is to know about the nature of that dimension. But look at what our linear minds want to do our linear minds want to construct a sentence that says six dimension equals bullet points. This is what 60 is. And we can, we can do that, but it's not accurate, and it's only for the sake of security. We get a false sense of security from that level of intellectualizing, the level of experience. That's where humanity gets to go now, that's the open door. That's the infinite door. It's the level of experience. What we've been doing is holding ourselves back from experiencing energy by trying to understand everything because and now I'm going to answer the question that you asked. So tell me about this false matrix. What is this? It's a dimension. That's what the false matrix is, but it's a very abnormal, weird, strange, dysfunctional place, that, which I call the false matrix, is a matrix. And what a matrix is, is a place where we experience ourselves as individuated from God. So we all originated from source. There was nowhere else that we could originate from. We all originated from source. But then when we have these processes of individuation, we need almost a place or a space or a container to have these experiences in, and that's what a matrix is. It is, quite simply, that playground where we have these experiences. So a false matrix is a false playground. It's where we imagine. This is all there is, because this is all my eyes can see and all my brain couldn't comprehend. This is all there is. So we got locked into a mental realm where we reduced everything down to a thought, and it even became imbued into our spirituality, where our spiritual teachers told us, well, your thoughts are very important. Which they are, but they're not the most important thing. Your energy is. Your energy produces the thoughts. Your energy is the realm of experience that we've been locked out from the mental realm, which is the false matrix, only makes sense at the linear level. We do not experience multi dimensionality inside the false matrix, but we talk about it, that's the difference. Do you see in the false matrix? We reduce it to a thought, and we can even write a book and read the book and study the book and write the exam and pass the test and all of these levels that we think are making us wiser and wiser, but we're not experiencing what we're thinking about. We're talking about it, but not having the experience. So that defines the false matrix. It's a mental realm where we are disconnected from who we are as multi dimensional fields of energy. The moment the reconnection to our multi dimensionality is in place, we have effectively transcended the false matrix. And if you look at most human beings, most human beings can't remember who they were before this lifetime. Just one lifetime ago, they don't remember the name, the face, the history, they recollect nothing, and we have had multiple lifetimes. So where's all that information? All of that information is sitting in the divine matrix. We may use terminology like the Akashic Record, but that's a way of saying it exists in a realm that I can't reach, I can't touch that realm of knowingness, True Knowingness, because I'm too stuck in my intellect. I'm too stuck in the linearity, and this is where we've been confined to. And as we grow up now as spiritual beings, meaning as we really step into the wisdom that we came here to embody, as we start to receive the love that we do have, the receptors to receive, then we begin to ripple out a new light and a new language, and that begins to shift not just us, but. But it begins to shift the fabric of the false matrix itself. The false matrix is actually a very fragile place. It takes just one person, one person inside the false matrix, to begin to regain their memory, to begin to remember who they are in the higher realms and embody that, not as a thought, but as an experience of light. It takes one person to do that, and we have many examples of these beings in our history. We call them Christ. We call them Bucha. We have many names for these beings of wisdom that have done what we are all attempting to do now at the individual level. And every time one person does that, it leaves a legacy or a ripple of light, and that ripple of light is forever. It doesn't get evaporated. It doesn't get erased. Because of time, it only gets replayed, which is why many of the ancient biblical stories we may hear them of being repeats of much older stories, and this is because we are recycling the same ripple of light over and over again. That's the nature of light. It's infinite. It cannot be suppressed. It cannot be pushed away. So the false matrix the architects, and I'm sure you're going to ask me about who they are, and I will answer that the architects of the false matrix never wanted us to regain our connection to our true essence, so they infiltrated every area of the human experience, and some of them, I'll say to you, and you'll say, Well, yes, Kerry, obviously the monetary realm, sure, the political realm, sure. Of course, they had the schooling, the financial world, the spiritual world, too. The spiritual world also had to be controlled so that humanity wouldn't become the ripples of light that the false matrix was so afraid of, because that would destabilize the entire matrix. And if the whole matrix was destabilized, it would cease to exist, and that would be the end game for the architects of the false matrix. So our light has a massive, massive repercussion. It's not just for you that you are enlightening. It is for the collective. It is for the collapse of the false matrix, which then allows for the birth of the Divine matrix, which is what we're in the process of returning to and re establishing,
Jannecke Øinæs 17:34
oh my, oh my. There's so many things to go into here, and time is just running. And I'm like, oh yes, right, the architects, so it seems like there's a conflict of interest here. And almost we could say a war going on then, like someone wants to keep the matrix, and we others wants to do something else. No, yeah. Who are they? Are they spiritual beings.
Kerry K 18:01
Essentially, we all are spiritual beings, right? Because we all came. We are all of spirit. We are all of source. So everything is a spiritual being. But the architects of the false matrix are a group of beings known as the Archons. And they're known by many names, but Archons is one of them. They had a role, and their role was to hold darkness in focus. So they were if I could explain it in really, really simplistic terms, what I'm describing is a lot more nuanced, but I love to teach in a very simple way, so that things don't overwhelm a person. So the very, very simple answer is they were gods of darkness, and that means that every realm, every facet of creation, had an overseer. So light had a group of beings overseeing light, darkness had a group of beings overseeing darkness. Because in the beginning, that's what creation was. In the beginning, creation was the interplay between light and dark. And the reason that it was about the interplay is because light catalyzes dark, and dark catalyzes light, and we kind of, in a sense, trigger each other to grow. And when light grows, it becomes more light, and when dark grows, it also becomes more light. Dark does not become more dark. Dark becomes more light when it grows, when it evolves. That's why beings of darkness don't want to grow. They don't want to evolve. That's why you see a lot of people on the planet who will be loyal to and defend their beliefs, and don't you dare take their beliefs away from them because they are connected to that iconic program of darkness which says, I'm not here to grow because growth challenges my very being. So these beings of darkness became depraved from holding that part of. In Focus for so long, they, in a sense, outdid themselves, and they took on the role so fully and so wholeheartedly that they became psychopathic, and they became so convoluted and distorted by the role that they were playing that they began to think things like this, who is this God? Character? Who is this God? We're more powerful than God. We're greater than God. So we don't need God, because all that God wants to do is reabsorb us back into itself. And we don't want that reabsorption. We like the separation. They had a sense of arrogance and a sense of power from their separation. So they wanted to defend that at all costs. So they thought, okay, the perfect solution is, we'll create a whole new universe separate from God. But there was a big snag in that plan. And the snag was, oh, because we, the Archons, have pushed God away, we've, in a sense, disowned God. We've lost our power to create, because that's what God is. God is our creative energy. So when you distance yourself from God, you lose your ability to create. So now they've got all this incredible intellect. I was going to say wisdom, that was the wrong word. It's intellect. They had this incredible intellect because they were high beings, and now they've got this intellect which is very similar to what we see in AI today. It's a kind of intellect that we almost can't keep up with. And they realized the solution was will engineer. That's why I call them engineers of the false matrix, not creators. Will engineer a false matrix, and we will bring people into the system, and they will not know that they're a part of the system. That's you, and that's me, and that's the people listening. We're the population of the false matrix, and they will create on our behalf. We can't create a world, but they can. So we'll feed them stimuli, we'll show them programs, we'll tell them stories, we'll play them music, and that stimuli is going to put them into a bubble of consciousness that we can very easily manipulate and control. And then all we have to do when we want the creative force of the planet to create a war, or we want them to create a collapse of an economy or disparity, or whatever it is, then we feed them the stimuli, and they will create it on our behalf. These are the engineers of the false matrix. Very wisely, they have always stayed hidden, because how can we possibly go to war with the enemy that we cannot see, that we don't even know exists? How can we ask for freedom from a jail when we can't even see the bars of the jail? We don't even know that we're in a mental prison. We don't even know that we have been locked into a mental realm. We just think this is normal, real life, and here we are at the cutting edge of creation. That's what we think. So these are the icons and the archons are very quickly losing footing. They're very quickly losing power, because unprecedented things, as you will know, are taking place on the planet. We have radical influxes of light. We have light workers. We have people in spiritual awakening that are driving a new consciousness on the planet. And it's like a pop awakening that cannot be controlled, cannot be suppressed. And I spoke about the impact of one person in the false matrix. Now imagine the impact of a million. Imagine the impact of a million beings holding love in their heart. What does that do to the false matrix? It begins to unweave what was once a very solid structure. It begins to crumble and collapse, that which the archons have fought so hard to preserve.
Jannecke Øinæs 23:58
Wow, that was incredibly interesting. I want to circle back to you incarnating. And also, if you could speak to Okay, so we're the population, part of this false matrix. But who are you? You and I, like, did we choose to incarnate into this false matrix?
Kerry K 24:20
So many people ask me this question, and it's, it's kind of like, it's the equivalence of saying, what were we thinking? Like, seriously, what, what the hell were we thinking? And, and surely I couldn't have signed up for this. You know, surely there's some something's gone wrong. It's that kind of feeling of, it can't be this way. I couldn't have signed up for this, and the truth is, we all did. None of us are here because we're against our will. We are all here because our free will brought us here, but it brought us here for many, many, many different reasons. And I'm going to highlight maybe just one or two of them, the most common ones. So the first. Reason that people would have come in here is to have an experience of, I am not God, because that's not available anywhere else. To have the experience of absolute separation from self is not an available experience in other realms. In other realms, there's always a trickle of connection. We don't even have that trickle of the connection. We have hopes and we have intellectual thoughts in place of connection. We have ideas and ideologies. But remember I said, we lack the experience of divinity. So that means we lack the experience of wholeness, the experience of love. And it is because we are lacking this that we chose this. Because in the lack of connection, we get to know ourselves in a whole new way. It's like this. Imagine if you had amnesia and you woke up in another country and you didn't speak the language, you'd have to reinvent yourself, right? You You remember nothing of your story. You remember nothing of who you were, what food you liked, what movies you've seen, if you're married or not married. So now you've gotta really get to know yourself again, and that's why the original volunteers came in. But then those original volunteers came in and the icons thought, this is fantastic. You know, we're not going to let them go, because not many people are volunteering for this job of coming into the false matrix, so we've gotta hold on to the existing volunteers so they began to manipulate free will. Remember, it was originally our free will that brought us in here, but then and we knew that this at the higher realms. We knew this was going to happen, that our free will was going to be manipulated. But we also knew that we were God. We also knew that we were infinite beings, that we cannot be destroyed or lost, you know? So this was nothing when, when we are in that place of all knowing oneness, having a temporary experience of this connection is exactly that. It's just a temporary experience. And at those higher realms we look at ourselves, and that's what we know. This is a temporary experience, and from our vantage point, it looks very different. From our vantage point as the human being, we're going, oh my god, this has been forever. I need to get off this planet. I need to get out of the false matrix. Oh my god, that something's gone wrong. We knew that we were going to eventually come back to love. That was the bottom line. We were eventually going to return to love. Now, the second group of beings that came into the planet were what I call the rescue workers. The rescue workers came in because they realized, uh oh, those guys are getting stuck. Those guys are getting trapped inside the false matrix, and that's not okay. They need support. So we came in with support, and this is what the original support looked like. The original support looked like angels and guides and Ethereal Beings of love. And guess what, the human beings couldn't perceive them. The human beings were so supported, but they had no idea. They just felt lost. They just felt alone. They were stuck in their thoughts. They couldn't engage with the experience of love. They could think about love. They could long for love, but they couldn't connect. So we realized very quickly that light workers needed to embody at the physical level, that the only way that we could actually rescue those who had gotten stuck in the false matrix was to come in as a participant of the false matrix. And we knew our job was going to be that we would have to wake up in the darkness, we were going to have to wake up in the density and the chaos and bring ourselves online again. This is why so many people are having spiritual awakenings, because we agreed, we contracted to do this, in many cases, multiple lifetimes ago. So we've been waiting for this lifetime, because this was the lifetime where light was going to finally infiltrate into the planet enough to catalyze that spiritual awakening so that we could come to our senses, so that we could come to awakening in front of those who were sleeping. And it's the example of us who are awakening in front of those who are sleeping, that makes the sleeping ones go, oh, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. I'm starting to remember something. And so they come online, and that is how we liberate the false matrix from inside, not outside. That didn't work. We had to come in to. An earth body as an earth human. So the majority of the population on the planet right now are highly evolved beings. They're beings from the angelic realm. They're beings from the Elohim, which is one of the god realms. They're beings from higher dimensional places that knew that they could do this. Imagine the knowingness that it's going to take to come into a trap, essentially, and know that you weren't going to be trapped you. You must have had such a belief in yourself that said, I can do this. I I'm so capable of doing this. The majority of human beings on the planet right now are that group of light workers.
Jannecke Øinæs 30:41
Oh, wow. How do we know what we are?
Kerry K 30:47
If you are spiritually awakening, or have undergone some kind of awakening, then you are those who came in on the rescue mission. The others are still sleeping, and they're the original volunteers that came in. They're going to wake up at the very last minute, and that's fine. It's not their job to wake up now. It is the job of the light workers, who are the group of volunteers. It's our job to lead the awakening so that by the time the others get A a waft of it, it's established and anchored on the planet, right?
Jannecke Øinæs 31:25
It does make sense. It does really resonate. Thank you so much for giving details about this. I want to circle back before we move into what's happening now, still, I'm curious about you as a soul, because I saw in one episode on a podcast that you try to incarnate multiple times, and you talked about miscarriages, and I got very curious myself, because I have miscarriage one time, and you had some explanation of why that happens. That was quite healing to me to hear
Kerry K 31:56
Yeah, I tried to come in multiple times, and I, the best way I can say it is I got cold feet a couple of times. Cold Feet is in, oh, I don't think I can do this right. And a couple of times I came in only to do what so many beings do when they come in for a miscarriage. So when a being comes in for a miscarriage, not all the time, but mostly, they intend to imprint their energy with their mom. And that was what I intended. I intended just to imprint my energy with my mom. And the reason I wanted to do that is because I knew who I was. I was a being of wisdom and a being of love, and I just wanted to support her. So remember what I said, we couldn't when we were in the false matrix, and in the thick of the false matrix, we couldn't perceive ethereal energies. We couldn't perceive divinity, but we could at the physical level. We could receive it from another human flesh, human being, but we couldn't receive it from an angelic being. So this was one of the ways that the light workers and the Angelics came in, and they still do it today, is I don't really want to come in for my own physical experience, they might say, but I'm going to come into physicality just long enough to make the imprint, just long enough to make the connection, and that connection lives with the mother forever. That child that you held, whether you held it in utero for a day, or you held it in utero for a few weeks or a few months, the presence of that child is forever in your field, forever a part of you, so you have an imprint of an angelic being, or a being of love, a being of phenomenal wisdom that has come into your field, not to birth through your body, but to support You at a very physical level, and that also creates a connection between the mother and the ethereal realm, because the mom knows, but my baby still exists. My baby just didn't come into form, but my baby still exists in the energetic realm. So now it makes the mom almost seek a bridge to that energetic realm. So it makes the mom search for the love that they know is there. And so it can be a catalyst for the mom's spiritual awakening as well. And then, you know, for myself, I came in multiple lifetimes as miscarriages, and then one lifetime I came in, and I remember this very clearly. I came in and I got the fright of my life. I remember the panic. It was the most all consuming panic I have ever experienced. It was the panic of realizing, oh my god, I have just been stitched into the womb because that's what my mom did. She had had so many. Carriages that her obstetrician recommended that she stitch her womb clothes so that I couldn't miscarry so. So when I realized that that had happened as a soul in the utero, I was like, oh my god, I caught someone's jammed the exit route, someone's jammed the door, and now I'm stuck. So I went into full scale panic. But of course, at the soul level, my soul had, of course, intended this, of course planned this, of course, because nothing happens unless we have ordained it to be so. But I had the experience at the very human level. I had the experience of something's gone wrong, panic, panic, oh, my God, I'm stuck. And that was part of my journey, that was part of the imprint that I was going to work through. So I was under the impression I was coming in for yet another miscarriage, only to discover that I was locked into play. So I had to be birthed. I had to come into form, and that's how I came into this embodiment.
Jannecke Øinæs 36:01
You remember like, because some are saying that we plan our lives and we choose our parents, is that your experience as well, that you chose where your body, your parents, the country, everything, everything,
Kerry K 36:14
yeah, we choose every detail. It is so finely coordinated, where we're born, who were born to the genealogy, the ancestry, the earth ancestry, the star ancestry. It's, it's the most in depth, meeting and matching and merging of energy fields. So we, we pre ordain all of this before our birth. This is most certainly not a random coincidence or a crazy chance that you landed up in the household that you landed up in this was truly divinely coordinated, even when it doesn't feel divine. So many light workers have this common childhood experience of being birthed to radical trauma to radical pain, and that's part of the awakening process, because it is that extreme darkness that catalyzes the extreme light. So even the pain and the difficulty, it's all part of the plan,
Jannecke Øinæs 37:21
and to ask a question that is a bit personal, but also, I think a lot of women are thinking about, so am I meant to have a child or not meant to have a child? And I'm in that age where I'm wondering, is it going to happen? Is it not going to happen? And I'm curious, is it my, you know, will at some level that I have to choose it. Or is it destiny that, you know, either I'm supposed to have a child or I'm not supposed to have a child?
Kerry K 37:51
Yeah, it's a little bit of everything. Um, first of all, there is a very destructive, iconic patterning, or there are many destructive iconic patternings on the planet, meaning there are many destructive thoughts introduced to humanity by the archons in order to preserve the false matrix. And these are misery programs, for example, and poverty programs and lack programs to keep humanity in a certain state of struggle, because that's where they're easy to control and, of course, to prevent their enlightenment. Now, at the point that we're moving into now, which is what we're moving into, liberation from the false matrix, we're moving into a whole new paradigm, the return to the Divine matrix where we come from, which also means the return of our true lifespan, which is 1000s of years. We're not meant to live 6070, or if we're really lucky and we've got good genes, 100 years, that's not a natural lifespan at all. Our natural lifespan is between one and 2000 years, and we tend to elect when we leave we don't get taken out by a disease or a violent incident or or something crazy like that. So when we return to the Divine matrix, we return to harmony. We return to a harmonious body structure where we have surpassed death, disease and illness, and we now can maintain a certain level of love that nourishes us and feeds us and echoes from us into all living things. So it's a very different paradigm that we're about to step into. The icons obviously don't want that to happen, because if it does, it's the end of their false matrix. And if this false matrix collapses, this was the stronghold of all false matrices. So if this false matrix collapses, all other false matrices collapse. So can you imagine how much the archons don't want the light workers or the beings of light to. To move into the ascension process and the awakening process, they'll do anything to prevent it, including the destruction of the family. So one of the destructive thoughts that we're seeing woven into modern when I say modern in inverted commas, because there's nothing modern about where we live. We live in a very archaic world, but something that they've woven into the hearts, the thoughts, the minds of humanity, as if we're coming up with us all on our own, is I don't want children. Who wants children. We don't want to bring children into this world. So we now have women walking around in a state that is so opposite of their nature, with a bravado. And I'm not saying that you or anybody listening is like this, but it's a trend that we're seeing that there's a lot of women who have this idea of life's about me and I don't want to be responsible for a baby, because that's going to tie me down. That's part of the destruction of the family. Why? Because the family is where our strength comes from. I have three children and a husband, and somebody put a comment on YouTube. This was, oh, probably about three years ago, and I still remember the comment, no, two years ago. I still remember the comment. The comment was, Kerry, when we ascend, obviously, so meaning when we go into 5d obviously, we won't have families anymore, and we won't have children. So why do you have children? And I had this moment of going, how much can one person misunderstand what 5d is? How much can one person misunderstand what love is? Love, the nucleus of love is the family. So it is our nature to want to be in units and unison and to birth children. Now, does that mean you have to birth children? Of course not, but it does mean that if a person is sitting there going, I don't want to birth a child to a corrupt world or a polluted world, or whatever it is, then your vision is only showing you the world that you live in now, and it's not showing you the world that we're in the process of creating. The world we're in the process of creating is a magnificent paradigm, and we were born to birth the new paradigm in through our bodies first. And this is why women are such powerful spiritual leaders, because we are birthers, because we're able to hold that birthing energy in us. Now, if a baby has chosen you, that may be considered destiny, you know, if a soul has chosen you and said you're going to be my mom, I choose you, you as the parent, you as the mom, can still block that, you know, the child can come in and and you can abort that child. You know, we do have free will. We do so on one hand, yes, it can be your destiny. On the other hand, yes, you can override your destiny.
Jannecke Øinæs 42:57
But how about if I do want children, and I've tried for five years, but it's still not happening. And then I, I, I don't want to, you know, be bitter. I want to go into surrender, like, okay, you know, maybe it's not my destiny.
Kerry K 43:14
I hear you, then all you can do is, number one, keep your sacral chakra open, and I'll talk about what that means. Keep your sacral chakra open. Stay in surrender and stay open, because you don't know the divine timing of that child. So it's kind of like saying, my baby, if you're going to come in, I'm open. Not right for you, because that's a resistance energy, but I am going to accept you so that, in my opinion, is the most powerful thing you can do. Just I'm I'm open, my baby, you come when you're good and ready. I'm not going to force you in, but there's a gentle landing for you here. There's a soft, safe space for you to come into, and I'm available. So it's kind of like just saying yes. I spoke about the sacral chakra being open on my website, I've got a sacral chakra meditation because it is an art to open up the sacrum in particular. And the sacral chakra is very often where blockages are held in fertility. And when we open up the sacrum, which is the chakra point just below the belly button, we tend to amplify fertility. So at the physical level and the energetic level, that's what you have the power to do. You have the power to open your vehicle energetically and physically, and then you surrender, and you go, my baby, I'm here. I'm here when you're good and ready. And don't listen to what medical science will tell you is the right age to have birth, because your baby knows way more than the doctor.
Jannecke Øinæs 44:56
Yeah. And at the same time, I don't want to be too old. Old as a mother as well, you know, for the sake of the child in a way. But we'll we'll see I really practice surrender, surrender when it comes to this. And I think it's something biologically or something that I think every woman just feel into in some way or another, that it is a topic when we become over four days like that on our mind.
Kerry K 45:27
And, you know, we try to control the experience. We try to control like, Okay, I'm too old, or I'm too this, or I'm too that. Listen, I have three children, and I have been told three times I cannot have children. I'm infertile. I cannot have children. I have had three children. My husband cannot have children. So I have three children born to a mom and a dad who are both medically infertile. Yeah, he's, he's, yeah, he's way worse than me. He's he's got like a 99 point something percent, no, like you're 99 point something percent incapable of having children. He's the father to my children and and the doctor said to me three times, Aren't you lucky? You never have to waste money on contraceptives, because you can't have children three. So, so my point there is, just be open. There's no that you cannot control. And
Jannecke Øinæs 46:33
I can feel some in the audience are thinking, hey, Jannecke, you're sitting with a psychic. Just ask her. But I don't want to do that, because it feels, you know, it feels like, I don't want to know in a way, that it feels so personal. But I do want to ask you, what do you do as a psychic? See what's going on right now, 2025 2026 we're seeing crazy things happening. Like I'm in January, when in January, right now, 2025 and I was like, things are happening. I never thought was possible in politics and fires, wars, etcetera, crazy. So what is your take on that? Yes, we're awakening, but we're seeing destruction and chaos
Kerry K 47:22
we're used to being controlled by and led by the external world, because remember, that's how the archons have steered creation. They've steered us by giving us a instance or a point of outrage, and then we have a knee jerk response to the point of outrage. Some politicians say, Duck Duck Duck, and we all get outraged. Somebody did, Duck Duck Duck, and we all get outraged. And that outrage becomes the creative force, but we're being led into a blind, unconscious creation. That's why we're always interested in what's happening externally, what's happening externally, because we're used to the external world leading us. We're used to the external world directing us and telling us, are we safe or not? Are we going to be okay? Are we going to win the lotto? Are we going to go to war? Are we going to have Armageddon. We want to know these things because we're used to the external world directing everything about our experience the realm that we're moving into now this is and it's a new realm. 2025 is the beginning of a new energetic era, a new energetic realm, and it runs from 2025 to 2032 this is a brand new energy. We haven't been here before. So if we could look at the timeline, we would see big elevations of consciousness, and we would see this 2025 timeline as the beginning of a new era. And part of what defines the new era is that we're less led by the external world, and the external world is going to keep trying to lead us. It's going to keep going. Look, there's drones in the sky. Look, there's a bad man over here. Look, P Diddy did this? Look over it's going to keep trying to catch our attention, cos, the moment the external world catches our attention, we debilised from our center, and we begin to create with the collective at a very unconscious level, instead of creating as the individual at a very conscious level. Now that shift has begun, so what we can expect to see is crazy, crazy attempts to capture our attention. And that's why what we're seeing is like, oh my god, there's wildfires over there, and there's all these drones over there. It's like, it's not one thing, it's multiple things all at once. And until at least March, it's going to be like that. Until at least March. It's like there's all these balls up in the air.
Jannecke Øinæs 50:05
Is that march 2025 sorry,
Kerry K 50:07
yeah, March 2025 so, so it's like this is the concerted effort from january, february, march 2025 is the concerted effort to distract humanity with events that they can get outraged about, or going to collective fear about, that's what the drones are about. The drones are an attempt to put humanity into a collective fear that says we're being watched. What's going on? This is scary. The big ship is going to come from the sky. And you know what the crazy thing is? The crazy thing is is most people are going, Oh, look, there's drones, yeah, you know. And so their attempts are pretty futile. So then they're going to go, oh, there's a big health scare. Oh, everybody, everybody gets scared. Get scared. And again, you're going to see humanity going whatever, you know. So you're going to find people being less phased by all of the external stuff, which means the external world is going to have to work really hard, and so it's going to look crazy January, February. And it's not to say that from April, May and June, it's not going to look crazy. It's just like, this is panic city. This is panic city because we have shifted into a new era. They're going to try now to turn the timeline back into the false matrix, because the timeline that we're on right now leads directly out of the false matrix. And they so basically, they're trying to make us make a U turn. They cannot U turn us. We can only u turn ourselves. And that's why the attempts are so big to get humanity to go into some kind of hatred, fear, panic driven event. There's going to be a lot of disclosure. There's going to be an unprecedented amount of disclosure. But the interesting thing about disclosure is we're going to have two forms of disclosure. We're going to have one truth and one untruth, and we're going to have to discern the difference for ourselves. And what that's going to look like is you're going to have two different people saying two different things, and then you're going to go, who? Who do I believe now? Who do I What? What really happened here? Right? So disclosure is not going to look the way that we thought it was. We thought disclosure was going to be one unified voice giving one unified truth. It's not. It's going to be two truths spoken through multiple voices. And then humanity is going to do what? Humanity is going to throw their hands up and go, oh geez. Now I don't know now. Now somebody must tell me, I don't know. That is exactly where humanity will lose their power. That is exactly where humanity will shoot themselves in the foot and undo all of the high frequency alignments that they have done. Because the moment humanity says, I don't know, the answer, you must show me I'm weak and powerless. I don't know what I'm doing. The moment humanity gives their power away, they have you turned the timeline so discernment is critical, in other words, the ability to feel. But is this truth or isn't it? You know? And I must just say to you, what you did earlier was very beautiful. You know, you said to me, Kerry, you're a psychic. I could ask you, am I going to have a baby or not? And first of all, I don't even know if I consider myself. I used to work as a psychic for many, many years, and I can see many psychic things, but I call myself a psychic. I don't probably not other people might. The point is, I could certainly see it. But you said, maybe this is for me to know. Maybe this is for me. Yes, 1000 times, yes, that was you taking your power and saying, but I don't want Carrie to be the spokesperson of my truth. I want to be the spokesperson of my truth. I want to find it out for myself, and it's okay if I don't have the answer, it's okay if I'm in the dark, it's okay if I'm in the unknown. Having the illusion of power, which comes from knowing what's going to come is still an illusion. It's not going to grow me, it's not going to evolve me, but me being with my uncertainty that's going to grow me, that's going to evolve me, that's going to make me turn to myself instead of turning out there, saying, okay, Carrie, give me the answer. World, give me the answer. Government, show me what to do. World Health Organization, come save me from a dreaded disease. This is how humanity has lowered their frequency, time and time again and taken steps away from ascension into darkness, but you were a living example. You didn't know it, but you were a living example of the energy of higher consciousness. You were a living example of an empowered human being who says, I don't need to know the answers. I only need to be powerful. I only need to live in my higher alignment. Answers are a way of saying the external world is running my life and and then what? So if, if it's a yes, I'm going to feel happy, and if it's a no, I'm going to feel sad. That's that's not going to grow you. So what, what it looks like when humanity reaches into themselves is sometimes terrifying, sometimes scary, because you're going to feel like, who's who's going to show me the way, who's going to give me the answers? And the answer is, you are, but you're going to learn to tune into that part of you that holds the wisdom which is already there, and that that ultimately is what that's humanity's test. That is humanity's test. Can we turn into ourselves? And the truth is, we're beginning. We're not very far from that mark. There's a lot of people that you may think it's cynicism that's made them tune out all the external noise, but it's also a sense of connection to their inner world that is making them tune out all of the other voices outside of them, so that they can tune into themselves. And that's the news station worthy of tuning into, is your own inner energy field. That's what I teach people. That's the real work of what we're doing here.
Jannecke Øinæs 56:26
You know, to me, this has been really empowering. You know, it has really confirmed what I have heard again and again, but in a deeper way, that it's all about me, finding that place within me, trust that trust myself, and believing in myself and seeing that I'm worthy and valuable, and I can have my own truth. I mean, it's really empowering. And I can notice that I watch the news and I'm like, Oh my goodness. But again, like practicing what I learn in my own interviews and other podcasts. Okay, okay, I can stay calm inside of me. That is something I can decide, like, that's my power,
Kerry K 57:13
absolutely, exactly, that's your power. That's your power. Yes and noone can take it away from you. You can only grow that power. It gets bigger and stronger. Yeah.
Jannecke Øinæs 57:25
So Kerry, I have a few questions I ask all my guests at the end. And the first one is, what is self love to you? And I'm especially passionate about that question because I just launched a Norwegian course in self love.
Kerry K 57:40
That's beautiful. Self love is self connection. It is based on your connection to yourself. So most people are trying to love something that they haven't even connected with. So people say to me, how do I love myself? And the first answer is, imagine if you had a lover in your life and you say to me, how do I love this person? I would say to you, first get to know them, you must connect before the true love comes online. The lust can come online, but we're talking love which is very different. True unconditional love comes from connection. And it's connection to self that's the birthplace of self love, and once that connection to self is online, the next step then is to honor the self that you're connecting to. And that's huge. Self honoring is the biggest part of self love, because we've learnt to dishonor ourselves and to essentially sacrifice ourselves for the well being of others. So to self honor is a whole new skill to learn. How do I advocate for me, stand up for me, make choices that work for me, even when I'm unpopular with other people. That's part of self love, too. But connection, that's the beginning point of self love. Connection.
Jannecke Øinæs 59:00
Oh, nice. What is the deeper meaning of life? From your perspective,
Kerry K 59:06
the deeper meaning of life is to awaken it's life is the dream, and the deeper meaning is to awaken in the dream. And to use that analogy, what most people are doing is they're dreaming, and they're going, Oh, what is I saw a frog in my dream, for example, right? What is the frog? Mean? They want to analyze the dream. That's not going to grow us right now. That's not the skill set we need. We need to wake up from the dream and realize I'm the dreamer. I'm the one having the dream. It doesn't matter what the dream can be interpreted as and what those symbols are, because I'm going to drive myself nuts. You know, people do this. They say, Well, I dreamt about 1111, and this number and that symbol. And what does this mean? And what does that mean, drop all of the symbolic reference, which is a way of making something a linear. A thought instead of an energetic experience, and sink into the energetic experience of the dreamer, and then you wake up from the dream. That's the meaning of life. It is. Can I wake up inside the dream?
Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:15
Beautiful and Kerry, if people want to connect with you, could you share a little bit about how they can do so and how you work today and what you offer, sure.
Kerry K 1:00:25
So my website is probably the best place for people to connect with me. And my website is my name, Kerry k.com most people, however, misspell Carrie, and they think it's with a C. So please, Kerry is with a K, it's a double K, K, E, R, R, y, k, k.com, and there you'll find all the links to my social media channels. I put out a heap of content on social media, but the real jewel that I offer is an online community where I support people in the awakening process and I teach them the very practical tools of Okay, guys, I can tell you, you gotta connect with yourself, but now I'm going to show you. Now I'm going to walk you through the process, and we're going to do it together. That's the That, to me, is what I would call the real work, and that's what I do in the Plasma Light tribe. That's the real work that I offer. And I meet with my group once a week, and we have amazing times together. It's a really powerful experience. So for those who want more, there's that, and for those that just want to check a little bit of social media content, you'll find that on the website as well.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:34
Beautiful. Thank you so much for coming to the show today. I really enjoyed this.
Kerry K 1:01:42
Thank you. Jannecke, thanks so much.
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