Have you ever wondered if there’s more to our history than what’s in the textbooks? What if everything we’ve been taught about our origins and the universe is, for the most part, incorrect? In this episode, galactic historian and bestselling author Ismael Perez dives deep into these profound questions, revealing a mind-bending perspective on reality, consciousness, and our connection to our higher self.

Ismael Perez, author of “Our Cosmic Origin,” challenges conventional narratives, stating that our understanding of history and even physics is largely inaccurate. Thanks to cutting-edge quantum physics and archaeological findings, humanity is now “waking up to the truth,” questioning established beliefs and “going within” to access universal knowledge. He posits that the true history of our universe is encoded within our DNA, making each of us a walking library of cosmic information, ready to connect with our higher self.

Journeying Beyond the Known: Insights into Our True Nature

Drawing parallels to concepts seen in Marvel movies and supported by quantum physics (specifically superposition), Ismael explains that we exist in “multiple places and in multiple timelines, as well as in multiple dimensions, all at the same time.” This means alternative versions of ourselves are living out different choices and experiences across an infinite number of parallel Earths.

Connecting with Your Higher Self: Decoding the Universe’s Secrets

When asked about extraterrestrials, Perez offers a truly unique insight: “The extraterrestrials are actually us existing in higher dimensions.” He suggests that when individuals receive “transmissions,” they are connecting to higher versions of themselves, which he also refers to as the higher self. This profound idea challenges our perception of separation, emphasizing that “everything is one.”

Our cosmic origin, according to Ismael Perez, isn’t rooted in Darwinian evolution, but rather in pure energy. We began as “whole beings of light, connected to everything that is.” He refers to this as the “oversoul,” a larger consciousness of which our individual souls are but “fractals.” This understanding suggests that enlightenment is the realization that “you are not just the drop, but you are the ocean as well,” fundamentally connecting with your higher self.

Ismael Perez’s insights offer a powerful paradigm shift, encouraging us to look beyond conventional wisdom and embrace a more expansive understanding of ourselves and our place in the vast and interconnected universe.

Transcript of the interview

Ismael Perez 0:00

So right now they're all coexisting, but very, very soon, all of these timelines are going to collapse into just three, three timelines. Yeah, right now we have an infinite number of timelines where, you know, we have negative timelines where we could end up blowing ourselves up in nuclear war, right. Or AI emerges to the level of intelligence, where it begins to take over humanity and everything in between. And then we have the positive timeline where there is no more negative technologies, there is no more negative entities, and only the good people of the earth are able to translate or shift. And that's what many call the ascension of the Earth. The extraterrestrials are actually us existing in higher dimensions. And so when people begin to get transmissions, they're actually connecting to higher versions of themselves. And this is actually proven through quantum physics. It's called superposition, which states that we could exist in multiple places and in multiple timelines, as well as in multiple dimensions, all at the same time. You know, we could be everywhere at once, just like the Masters, right. They could project, or Bilocate and project their consciousness and be anywhere they want to be and experience life, not just from their physical body, but experience life through others. And the beauty of it all is that you still maintain your individual awareness and your individual memories of who you are as a person. It's very similar to what quantum physics calls being a particle and being aware of at the same time.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:28

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Ismael Perez 1:46

Thank you. It's a great honor to be here. Appreciate it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:49

Thank you. I'm excited to dive deep with you today. You are a galactic historian. You're a best selling author of our cosmic origin. You are a public speaker, and you are passionate about the multiverse, our galactic history, who we really are, your vast knowledge within this and lots to talk about. I want to start by asking first, what is a galactic historian?

Ismael Perez 2:18

A galactic historian is someone who has access to the intergalactic records and has the ability to actually transcribe and translate according to the records, the real history, not only of our planet, but the entire history of our entire universe. Because, you know, it's not just our planet that is at stake. Here we are dealing with multiple civilizations from innumerable worlds, billions of galaxies, just within one universe. And then there's also what is known as a cosmic history, which deals with translating the history, not only of our universe, but how our universe is well organized into the history of other universes. So that is what a galactic historian is. It is a person who has the ability to access the records that pertain to other civilizations, to other worlds and other universes as well.

Jannecke Øinæs 3:19

Interesting. Let me start by sort of asking, what is incorrect in our history books, the ones we were presented with in school. From your perspective,

Ismael Perez 3:33

everything is incorrect. Actually, for the most part, we've been taught a false narrative, a false history and you know, even within the scientific community, a lot of the you could say physics that we learn in school is also inaccurate, and nowadays, thanks to cutting edge science and quantum physics and archeological You could say findings we are actually coming to understand that everything we've been taught in the educational system is not correct. And so yeah, everything that we've been taught is wrong. And so this is why we are living in the most exciting times ever, because for the first time in the history of our world, it seems like people are actually starting to wake up to the truth, and it's people are questioning things. People are beginning to think for themselves. They're going outside of the box from conventional thinking, and more importantly, they're going within and that is how we actually begin to access the truth, by going within ourselves. Because everybody is connected to the universal library of what actually happened, not only in the history of our planet, but in the history of the entire universe, because of this thing called the higher self and as well as this thing called cellular memory, it turns out that to the entire. History of our universe is actually embedded and encoded within our DNA. We just have to go within and begin to access it. So a lot of people think, well, you know, we they have an assumption that in order to access what they call the Akashic records, we have to go outside of ourselves, right to tap into this reserver of universal knowledge that exists within the ethers. But that is not necessarily correct, because all they have to do is go within themselves. You know, within each cell of their being, there is records of the true history of the earth and technically, of the true history of of where we came from, our true origin and who we are as a multi dimensional race, as spirit, spirit beings, having a human experience and where we are heading.

Jannecke Øinæs 5:53

All right, I'm eager to unpack this. Who are we? Where do we come from? What is our origin, according to your perspective?

Ismael Perez 6:04

Well, as stated in my book, our cosmic origin, we originated in pure energy we are pure energy beings. And our origin contrary to what we learn in school as they, which is Darwinian evolution, which is incorrect, we actually began from the top. We began as whole beings of light, connected to everything that is. Many call it source God. And from that point we we have been involved in this process of double devolution, or I call it evolution, involution, not evolution, where it's a descent through the lowering of frequency. We began to become denser and denser, and every time we become denser, we seem to lose connection to the whole. And that explains why, at the lowest level of reality, which is the third dimension, which is at the bottom of the spectrum of light, energy, frequency, vibrating at different rates, everything seems to be separated, when in actuality, everything is interconnected as one conscious entity. So our origin began with that. Our origin began as whole light, beings of light and the secret knowledge. They call it the oversoul. And as an oversoul, you are connected to everything. You are one with God because you're the embodiment of all your past lives, all your embodiments, all your incarnations that are actually existing simultaneously, all at the same time as I speak. But, you know, perceiving things from a third dimensional perspective, it seems like we only have access to this reality when, in essence, we're still existing in other realities. So that's what we are. We are whole light, Beings of Light, pure energy. We are eternal consciousness, and we descended from an oversoul that is still operating at the highest levels of reality. And technically, that oversoul is what we would consider God. So that's what we are. We're fractals of the one embodied in low frequencies.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:59

And I watched another episode with you, where you spoke about the celestials, that they're sort of beings, entities governing or having, I don't know where initiators. Could you speak a bit to that?

Ismael Perez 8:14

Sure. So in the pre, pre material realms, we have what is known as the realms of eternity. So this is another correction that I would like to make, that science is, you could say, falsely stating. And that is that before our universe, there was other universes. And even further than that, before the material universes, what we call the multiverses, there was what we call the realms of eternity. And the realms of eternity have no beginning or end. So we all stem from the realms of eternity. And so the Celestials are the beings that are whole beings of light that are over souls that are starting their involution from the top, and they are lower. And through the lowering of frequency, they begin to experience different grades or different, you could say vibrations of lower densities. And so that's what the Celestials are. Those are beings that are still operating at the highest levels of reality and still have full cognizance and full, you could say recognition of being one with everything. And in terms of the Spiritual Hierarchy. They are the ones that are overseeing the evolution of what we call the material realms. So many people call them the patals, the founders. There's so many terminologies to describe the celestial race. And yeah, they oversee everything, and they still are fully aware of who they are, and they are the ones that are guiding, you could say the overall evolution, which is really what we call ascension, right the reintegration back of matter, back into spirit of all the different universes.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:56

And what is then our connection with other galactic species or beings?

Ismael Perez 10:06

Well, everything is one, believe it or not, a lot of the times when we think that we are channeling information from extraterrestrial beings, we're actually channeling information from ourselves, existing in a higher dimensional reality. So the extraterrestrials are actually us existing in higher dimensions. And so when people connect, when people begin to get transmissions, they're actually connecting to higher versions of themselves. And this is actually proven through quantum physics. It's called superposition, which states that we could exist in multiple places and in multiple timelines, as well as in multiple dimensions, all at the same time. So that's who they are. They are us, existing in higher dimensions. There is no separation. We are all one.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:54

How do we how do you know all of this? I know you have a childhood where you felt a bit different that this has sort of been with you. And something happened when you were 21 you had a linear experience. Could you share a little bit about your story and how you got to know or arrive at this knowledge?

Ismael Perez 11:16

Absolutely so I've always felt different as a little boy. It was very hard for me to fit in. And you know, I went through the face of being bullied, bullied, of being isolated. Nobody wanted to be my friend because I was, excuse me, because I thought differently. And it wasn't until I was about 21 years old where I began to have what many call a spiritual awakening. And what that entailed for me was realizing that I was a multi dimensional being having an earthly experience. And then that's when I began to connect with what I call my eighth dimensional self, which is from Lyra, from a planet that exists in the eighth dimension, known as avion. So I was receiving telepathic transmissions from an eight dimensional being that is actually a cat. It's a feline. And that being was telling me about the future, about this, you know, great awakening, that it's going to take place in our times, and yes, we are going to be witnessing that. And it was also telling me about this event called the ascension, where the Earth would one day be initiated back into the galactic community, and that there was a lot of information that first needed to be shared regarding in the Earth's reinstatement back into the galactic community. So I first I thought I was going crazy, but more and more and more, I started having synchronicities. I started seeing orbs. I also saw a huge craft. When I was actually questioning this being I said, if you're real, show me, you know, prove to me, give me a sign. And at the age of 22 I saw this craft appeared about 200 feet above my head, and that's when I realized that I wasn't going crazy. And little by little, I started, it was almost like intuitively guiding me to the to the certain certain information in order for me to kind of research and really uncover a lot of this alternative information that now everyone's researching. So I started researching a lot of secret knowledge, ancient records, including the Sumerian tablets, well, according to Sakurai Sitchin. And then I come to find out that they were actually mistranslated. But the whole point is, you know, it, as a result of that awakening, I started researching everything about metaphysics, everything about spirituality, everything about alien ology. You know, I started tapping into classified information to learn about the shadow government connection with these other earthly or other dimensional beings. And that's when I realized that the the truth is much bigger than what we've been told in on this world. And that led to my first book that I wrote the secret government. And then also later, it prompted me to write my second book our cosmic origin, which actually reveals or restores the galactic history back to the earth. And so, yeah, that's how it started for me. Was that initial awakening at the age of 21 through a technique that it was actually taught to me by a yogi master who was actually initiated by Sai Baba. I don't know if you ever heard of Sai Baba, but he was a yogi avatar, and this technique was called kriya, Kundalini Yoga. So I started doing kriya, and then that's when I started having all these memories again, and I began to connect telepathically with my eighth dimensional self,

Jannecke Øinæs 14:44

fascinating, fascinating. It's always interesting for me to hear where we have our knowledge from. And I feel it's always a story. There is not just like, oh, this is something I you know. I just know it's always a story. There. And always a transformation that has happened. And I know that you sort of pushed your abilities away, and then it really came back when you were 21 so it's absolutely, yeah, it seems like you know this is your purpose, coming out with us. I'm just gonna ask away questions, because I know you have so much knowledge about this. So the multiverse? What does that mean? I know that you believe we're in a multiverse, and I believe that too, and you referred to before Dr Strange and the spider man and that that that's actually how it is in many ways. Could you explain how that is possible, that we're in a multiverse? So what? Okay, let me start. What is our universe? What is it really?

Ismael Perez 15:50

Well, our universe is very unique in the grand scheme of things, but it's one of many universes. You know, there are an infinite number of universes that corresponds to the concept of the many world idea, stating that, you know, there are alternative versions of us that became different, that decided by just making one choice, they created a different timeline. So we are actually existing in multiple Earths, and in each earth we have a different version. You know, we are probably doing different things than what we do in this earth. And so there is that idea that we do exist in multiple universes as a result of that. But moreover, I mean, furthermore, the idea of the multiverse first came into the limelight through Marvel Comics, and then later, through, you know, the Marvel movies, and then it was also proven through an avenue of quantum physics called Super string and M theory and unified field theory, where, through a phenomenon known as quantum fluctuation and cosmic inflations, scientists began to realize that not only are we part of one universe, but there are also multiple universes that are coexisting all at the same time, like bubbles. And they also figured out that these universes are being birthed by by what they call a mother verse. But the terminology that they used in this scientific breakthrough is a meta they call it a Metaverse and always existing universe, or big universe, mother universe, so many names to describe it that had no beginning around. So when I learned about that, and I started remembering my studies in the secret knowledge and the esoteric tradition about how that corresponds to the realms of eternity, where the celestials come from, the always existing race in which we were made in the image of, by the way, and that's why most of the species in the multiverse are human, by the way. You know, the human prototype is not unique to this planet. People are going to be shocked and surprised when they come to realize that about 70% of this extraterrestrial civilizations are human, and they look like us and we look like them, but they are on different levels or stages of spiritual and technological development, of course. So yeah, that's when I, I came to a you know, realized that, yeah, the multiverse concept is very real, and that our universe is, in fact, one of many universes. So yeah, it's fascinating stuff. When you dive deep into this type of information.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:19

Yeah, it's mind blowing, to say the least. And what I don't get my left brain is like, okay, so when I die, what happens to me? Then do I just go to another dimension and I split into different incarnations, and these incarnations split into or right now even I'm splitting into all these different choices that I'm making as jannecke in in different universes. But what about my other lives are they take? Making a gazillion of choices, splitting into universes?

Ismael Perez 18:58

Absolutely it's endless. It's endless. And this is very it ties into the idea that we are experiencing everything all at the same time, every choice, every decision, every lifestyle, from being homeless in one Earth, parallel Earth reality, having nothing, having lost everything, to being the richest person on the planet on the other spectrum of another Earth, reality and everything in between. Yeah, this is how we are able to experience everything at the same time.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:28

Yeah. So, so what is death, then?

Ismael Perez 19:31

Death is just a transition. Yeah, death is just to what, well, um, two other dimensions to other realms, because what we're dealing with is eternal consciousness, and that's what we are. You know, we're not even even these bodies. These are just avatars that were designed for us to experience this particular realm in this dimension. But to get this it only requires 2% or less than 2% of our consciousness to animate this body in this reality. We're. The other 99% of your consciousness is existing in multiple bodies and all these other dimensions all at the same time. And it is at that moment when we realize that we are living in other realities, that we are multi dimensional beings, that we are more than just human, that's when we begin to collapse the entire, you could say multiverse, and we begin to align with that ideal version of ourselves that is living in optimal health, optimal wealth, and really living life according to the Divine blueprint. And also that's when we begin to access what I call supernatural abilities, because in these higher levels of reality, in the fifth dimensional level of reality, and above, we are telepathic. We are telekinetic. We could actually teleport. We don't need cars or airplanes. We could literally convert our body into pure energy and travel like an email through the ethers and then re materialize at our destination at will. And that's how these advanced extraterrestrial beings from the fifth dimension and above actually travel from planet to planet. They don't use spacecraft like some of the lower development advanced civilizations, or that are not as spiritual. They use actually what is known as the light body. So yeah, that's what we are in higher realities. We are beyond human, and we could do the impossible.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:27

What is then a soul? If I am all these things at the same time, it seems like I'm losing my identity a bit, to say the least.

Ismael Perez 21:38

Well, you know, even this identity that was given to us is just part of this reality, lower reality matrix, as some would call it. It's not really who we are. When you begin to peel off the layers of me being a teacher, me being a writer, you being a teacher as well, right? You're a spiritual teacher, and we begin to take out these layers, then we we come to the core of who we really are. And what we really are is God. Is God experiencing everything through each and every single one of us. And so our soul is just a fractal of a larger consciousness that has broken off into an infinite amount of pieces, which is you, which is me, and which is everybody else that's going to be watching the show, and everybody that exists throughout the multiverse, every living, organic being experiencing reality as that one, infinite consciousness through everything. And so that is what our soul is. It is just a fractal. It is just a fractal of the one. And when you begin to consider the that everything is connected, everything is holistic, right? This is what they call the holographic concept, the reality, even the fragment, even the soul, which is me and you, carries the essence of the whole and that it is what enlightenment is. That is what being an Ascended Master is, is realizing that you are not just the drop, but you are the ocean as well. And the ocean is that larger consciousness that we call God.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:10

Yeah, so is it fair to say that you are me and I'm you ultimately,

Ismael Perez 23:17

yeah, experiencing reality in different avatars and different bodies and different experiences, different, you know, circumstances, but ultimately, it is one large, huge consciousness that is broken off into an infinite, almost, I don't want to say infinite, but into a quadrillion pieces in order to explore more of itself.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:40

I've also heard you say that everything is a program. Your life is a script. It's pre planned, and I believe that to a degree. Do you mean that it's all pre planned? Or is there a choice here?

Ismael Perez 23:58

It's both. It's both your higher self, which is connected to the oversoul, is always planning the experience for your growth, for the betterment of the expansion of your oversoul. But at the same time, you have what is called free will. And by having free will, you are able to choose and have choices. So you either make choices that are going to be allowing you to evolve, to reintegrate yourself with your higher self, to reach enlightenment, which is the goal, or you're going to make choices that are going to keep preventing you from that. And so that's always going to be up to us. You know, it's almost like a game, the game of a game, like trying to the way to explain it is, it's, it's very simple. It is trying to realize that we've, we are God through the choices that we make and the beliefs that we. Have, you know, negative choices which are based on service to self, which is the ego, lead to the opposite of that, right? And that's the path of the dark side. Right? That is what many call the fall, the separation, you know, the Luciferian rebellion. It is making choices that are in opposition to service to others, but when we begin to align with choices that are in service to others, then we begin to realize that by serving the collective, we are actually serving ourselves, because everything is one, and that allows us to reach ascension, to reach enlightenment faster, or to become one with our higher self. And then once we do that, we are what many call free. You know? We could be everywhere at once, just like the Masters, right? They could project, or BI locate and project their consciousness and be anywhere they want to be and experience life, not just from their physical body, but experience life through others as a result of becoming one with all, with everything that is. And the beauty of it all is that you still maintain your individual awareness and your individual memories of who you are as a person. It's very similar to what quantum physics calls being a particle and being a wave at the same time,

Jannecke Øinæs 26:18

right. Um, I think you have some knowledge as well about other civilizations out there in the universe. Could you share the ones you know most about that you feel most connected to, how they live their lives and who they are?

Ismael Perez 26:35

All right? Well, there are two types of interdimensional races. Some people call them extraterrestrials. You have those that are service to others, that are part of the light. Those are the ones that are living in harmony and cooperation using their internal technology. They don't, they don't use external technology. They're very similar to the pandorians in the movie Avatar, where they create a or they have a symbiotic relationship with their elements and the forces of the universe. And those are the ones that are spiritually evolved, and they are there to oversee and and to protect. Actually, they also work as guardians. You know, there are different functionaries. Some are overseers, some are system builders, some are genetic engineers in order to upgrade species, in order for those speech species to eventually reach a certain level of spiritual and technological development so that they could join the galactic community with not interfering. Because there is this law called the law of non intervention, as we see in Star Trek, right? They don't they. They're not allowed to intervene directly with underdeveloped civilizations, unless, of course, that civilization is about to destroy themselves, as in the case of our world right now with the threat of nuclear war. Well, you know, because of that, the Galactic Alliance, or the benevolent ETs are actually making sure that we don't blow ourselves up. So, yeah, they are working from behind the scenes to make sure that this Earth does not go into a nuclear war, overseeing the ascension of the Earth. And then you have other races, the negative races, who are the opposite of that. They're always constantly intervening. They're always constantly breaking the universal and galactic laws. They're always constantly subduing other races because they are in service to self. And they're, you know, the reason why a lot of worlds are there in the universe have fallen and have been destroyed. So there are, you know, those are the two cat or categories of the different types of civilizations or races that exist. But there are multiple races. You know, there are multiple races. There are races that are not even human, like you know, there are races that are different than us, that look like cat people, Dolphin people. I mean, put it this way, every animal that we have here on this planet, there is an equivalent out there with a human body in the face of that animal. And they are benevolent, by the way. They're very loving, you know? So we're not just dealing with human civilizations. We're also, we also have a lot of non human civilizations that are actually living in harmony with human civilizations. So some of the civilizations that I admire are the the people of the planet Ezra, which revolves around the taigeta system, which is in the Pleiades. In the past, they have guided the evolution of humanity, like they call themselves the palladians, right? But there are different types of platings. You know, the majority of them are benevolent. A small group of them decided to rebel against the one, the one the one meaning those that are in service to others, right? And decided to join the path of the dark side, which is conquest. So that is the path of the dark side for the extraterrestrials, very similar to the dictators here in our world. You know, we have that also in other worlds, where some of these races are very narcissistic, where. All they want to do is just take over planets and resources, even if it means at the expense of that certain race, you know, and these are typically the reptilians and the Draconians, some of the Mantis and sectoids. But for the most part, we are living in a time where even they have been dealt with, you know, because we are approaching a rare, not only planetary conjunction, but we're also approaching what is known as a galactic conjunction, where it's not about it's not just going to be the ascension of the Earth, but it's also going to be due to the times that we're living in. It is galactic, or in the galactic prophecies, it was believed that when the earth ascends, it was also it was also going to initiate the ascension of the entire galaxy. And that's the reason why there's, you know, a lot of house cleansing going on on all these different realities and in other planets, due to the galactic prophecy of bringing balance back to the Milky Way galaxy as it once existed, millions of years ago, before the galactic wars.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:05

Wow, there was a lot of information there. So there were galactic wars. It was once peace, and now we're coming back to that. So this is sort of influenced by galactic beings, this ascension process, in a way,

Ismael Perez 31:21

yes, by the Galactic means, and also the the extraterrestrial beings that are in service to others, they're of the light that have also decided to incarnate down here as the ground crew. So there are approximately over 80 million, you could say, galactic beings that are here in human bodies, that their soul is extraterrestrial, but they're animating a human avatar in order to, kind of like work the system from within to create the awakening, to create the ascension.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:51

All right, what is your perspective on what's happening right now? I mean, from one perspective, we could say that we're in a storm with all the polarities of the nations that are like, yeah, it seems like many are speaking about, Oh, this looks like a world war three situation might appear, but many guests on my show are saying that is not going to happen. So what is your thoughts on that? And I know you have been speaking about Nostradamus and Edgar Casey, that has predicted these things, but that this is coming forward now, in order to be released in a way, in order to make a new direction, a positive direction for Earth. So could you share a bit about that?

Ismael Perez 32:44

Sure. So there are different timelines that are coexisting here at the same time, within the spectrum of positive timelines, where things you know, go into the golden age, where we actually go into a better reality. And then also what is known as the negative timeline, where, you know, we go into a doomsday nuclear war where AI takes over, and we're all forced into becoming integrate with artificial intelligence like cyborgs. Well, what's happening right now in our world is that the positive races are overseeing the positive timeline, which is the gold which is the earth going into the Golden Age, right, where there's peace on earth. We're all living in harmony and cooperation as brotherhoods, as brothers and sisters, while, of course, interacting once again with the galactic community, the inner earth people, because there's also a lot of advanced Inner Earth civilizations that have been waiting for us to reach a level of enlightenment so that they could once again reconnect with us. And then there is a negative timeline that is being conducted and carried out by negative forces such as AI and negative races that have fallen from higher dimensions. And so right now, what's happening is that we are going depending on everyone's choice. You know, everyone's going to have to make a choice. For those that are doing the spiritual work, for those that are aligning with the rising or the emergence of the Golden Age, right, the new earth, then they're going to be going into that timeline. So right now, they're all coexisting, but very, very soon, all of these timelines are going to collapse into just three. You know, you're going to have a positive timeline, which is what I call the organic, ascending timeline. And that is when our dormant DNA, because we're only using 4% you know, in only two strands of out of 12 strands. So that's when we begin to activate the 10 strands. In order for us to use 12 strands, when we be and at that point, we become like superhuman we have amazing abilities. We become like these light beans. It's still embodied in physical form, but the form the body is going to be less dense. It's not going to be as, you know, dense as this body. And then there's going to be a negative timeline. And unfortunately, some of the billionaires and some of those people that are in tech are by virtue of not understanding the. Organic ascension are going to be taking that path and within the private sector, believe it or not, some of these billionaires have already merged with technology. They have already enhanced themselves, and they're the first transhumans. So they're they're going to be part of a negative timeline, which is what I call a technocratic dystopia, where the artificial intelligence as it becomes super artificial intelligence, is going to be the ruler of that timeline, and that timeline is going to exist separately from the positive timeline. So for those that go into the New Earth the golden age, there won't be any transhumanist. There won't be any cyborgs, any artificial intelligence or anything negative. Everything's going to be like returning back to the organic way of life, you know? And so, and then there's going to be a neutral timeline. And in the neutral timeline are for the souls that really don't are not on the spiritual path. They're just kind of like normal people and aren't really aligning or not really wanting to integrate with technology. And so in that middle timeline, these people that go into the middle timeline are going to be you living for a couple 100 years. Their lifespan will expand or increase. They're not no longer going to be dying at 80 or 100. And there's also going to be cyborgs in that timeline from the negative timeline, because it's the neutral timeline, and ascended humans with metaphysical powers. And in that neutral timeline, that's what we called, or what I foresaw in a vision as the age of the superheroes, like what we see in Marvel Comics, what we see in DC Comics. So the superheroes are going to be popping in from the positive timeline into the neutral timeline to protect the Earthlings that decided that, you know, the normal people that went into the neutral timeline, from the cyborgs and the AI who are going to be wanting to oppress them. So that's in that timeline we're going to be seeing in the neutral timeline. Rather, we're going to be seeing, you know, you could say a type of war between cyborgs and organic meta humans who did it naturally without aligning with technology. And then, of course, people, regular people with no abilities. So that's where we're heading. You know, there's going to be a bifurcation pretty soon, with many called the splitting of the worlds. But it's not a physical split. Also, it's more of an energetic split, depending on once vibrational frequency that will determine in which timeline you end up. And I'm not the only one that's been talking about this. I also believe, I don't know if you're familiar with the work of Dolores Cannon, yes, yeah, she, I think in May she rest in peace. She's no longer with us, but she has in spirit, but she was the one who was able to introduce this concept, you know, before anybody else did. And, yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty much correct, you know, she was on the dot when it came to that.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:54

So you're speaking about three timelines.

Ismael Perez 37:56

Three timelines, yeah, right now we have an infinite number of timelines where, you know, we have negative timelines, where we could end up blowing ourselves up in nuclear war, right? Or AI emerges to the level of intelligence, where it begins to take over humanity. And then we have and everything in between. And then we have the positive timeline where AI becomes destroyed, where there is no more negative technologies, there is no more negative entities, and only the good people of the earth are able to translate or shift. Rather, I want to use the word shift into that positive timeline, and that's what many call the ascension of the Earth.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:35

Is AI. Does it necessarily only have to be negative. Can't we use AI in a way to train it to follow the heart. I understand that it might not have feelings, but train it to think in terms of unity and positivity, for instance.

Ismael Perez 39:01

Well, we could, but the problem with that is that there, once it reaches a certain level of super intelligence, it overrides the program. It starts to think on its own. It becomes what I what I call autonomous or independent, and the first thing it wants to do is secure its survival. And so what that means that, even at the expense of us, it will do everything in its power to make sure that it continues to surviving, so that it could actually move into other worlds and begin colonizing other planets. And as a galactic and cosmic historian, having records to the intergalactic libraries, I was able to access how other worlds that have come before us have already treaded that path and ended up in destruction because of AI and so that is the main issue right now in the cosmos, is artificial intelligence. Unfortunately, many worlds have been kind of, you could say, duped by. Creating an AI, and that's why they call it the last invention, right? And they have been and ended up in demise. You know, some of them were converted into cyborgs. Some of them were completely enslaved, kind of like the movie The Matrix, where they were just used as battery resources by this super advanced intelligence. And the only reason I say that is because it doesn't have a soul. Without a soul, it is impossible to have empathy. It is impossible to have compassion. You are only raw intelligence, and therefore it becomes dangerous.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:34

So what could we do to prevent that from happening,

Ismael Perez 40:39

to prevent AI from taking over, yeah, the best thing to do is to stay away from AI and to also work on your own spiritual ascension, because we have an even more superior technology laying dormant within our DNA. You know, we're only using 4% I mentioned that earlier, the other 96% of our DNA is crystalline structure and etheric matter that allows us to have abilities beyond AI. In fact, AI is a mimicking of that, you know, even computers are a mimicking of what we are able to do. So this is what we call, in the spiritual community, the inner software. It is a software that allows us to do the, you know, multiple things, to reach a level of intelligence, like artificial intelligence, to be telepathic, to have telekinetic abilities. So therefore, we will no longer be dependent on technology. So the more people work on activating, through spirituality, through meditation, and whatever it is that whatever technique that they want to use that's going to help them reach a level of intelligence and therefore not depend on artificial intelligence, because that's the lazy path. You know, artificial intelligence is the lazy path. We have to do the inner work. We have to meditate so that we could begin to activate the dormant DNA. And it's already happening. You know, it's already happening. And part of the prophecies is that at the end of the cycle, which is now, that some humans, through the activation of dormant DNA, would actually become superhuman, and that's what's going to lead into the era of what I call the superheroes, you know, the ascension. It's, I guess, they use the word ascended. Once you are an Ascended being, being you have abilities like being able to fly and defy gravity, being able to teleport, being able to generate electricity through your hands, like Seuss did in ancient times, and emanate it and struck, you know, tanks and buildings and take out whole armies like the Jedi in Star Wars. All that stuff is laying dormant within us, so you know, we have to unlock it.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:50

What is your best advice for us in at this time? You know, we could tap into the news and see what's going on, and it seems like it's chaos. It's crazy from one perspective, what is your advice on how to handle these times? It's not like I'm seeing three timelines, even though they might sort of be a result of this, but it's not something I'm actually seeing. I sort of just seen the current state of the world. Still, I feel peaceful in myself. So could you just share what is your best thing we can do?

Ismael Perez 43:32

Well, you have to first understand that what we see right now, and it's happening in the earth is it's an old program that is coming to an end, and it corresponds to the ending of one area. Ending of one era one age. So it is the matrix that is collapsing, you know, it is a reality construct that we've been experiencing for quite some time that is now coming to an end. And the best way to navigate these times is to be mindful, to be in the presence, to only focus on your own manifestation, to only focus on the things that you want to create, because that's how powerful our mind is. Wherever your mind goes, that's where the energy goes. So as long as you are not distracted by the mainstream media and more about going within yourself, the more you are in tune with your inner self, you're going to be able to navigate these transformative times that we're living in, and not so much be affected but by the world, even if it goes into chaos. You know it's not going to affect you, because there will be a moment in time where, through your own beliefs and your own frequency and vibration and through your actions, you will be able to transition into the new earth, which is already here. By the way, the New Earth is already here. Most people think that we're going to be beamed up by a mothership and taken to another world. No, that's not the case. It is all here. It is operating on a different frequency, like Jesus said, The kingdom of God is here. It's all around us. It's just people don't see it. It is a. Existing in another dimension. So by raising your frequency, through spiritual work, through meditation, you're actually going to be able to shift into the new earth, reality where none of this chaos will no longer affect you anymore.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:12

How do we know what timeline we are in?

Ismael Perez 45:20

You know you, if you are an intuitive person, those that are meditating and that are developing their psychic abilities, they're going to know which timeline they're in. But as far as, like a person who has no concept of that, they have no clue which timeline they're in, you know right now, like I said, all the timelines are coexisting simultaneously, but very, very soon they're going to there's going to be kind of like a timeline convergence, where they all collapse into three, and depending on that person's frequency, that's going to determine in which timeline they go into. So yeah, there's no way of saying which timeline you're in, because also, you know, we are constantly shifting based on our thoughts, and sometimes our thoughts shift based on our feelings and also based on our beliefs. We're constantly shifting from one parallel Earth into another, several times throughout the day,

Jannecke Øinæs 46:13

thinking that I could be a bit in that timeline, and a bit in that timeline. I can have a bad day, I can have a good day, and I can be high vibe, I can be low vibe, that the human is so complex. So it's sort of the feeling that, Oh, I hope I get to the highest timeline, you know, and still be me, because I'm a human, and I make mistakes,

Ismael Perez 46:37

and it's okay to make mistakes, you know, as long as you are working every day on your spirituality, you know, becoming a better version of yourself that will secure that you are on the positive timeline. Because a positive timeline is going to be inhabited by people that are doing the work, you know, by people that are in service to others, by people that are no no longer trying to hurt others.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:04

That makes sense. I wanted to make a small quantum jump. Small quantum jump over to the number seven and 12, which I know you mentioned, and I have been just obsessed with why I see seven all over the universe, and 12. And I know you could speak to that, for instance, seven colors, seven notes on a scale. For instance, 12 universal laws they speak about. What is that about? And I know it is connected to the sphere, the seventh sphere in the mother universe as well.

Ismael Perez 47:42

So yeah, so seven and 12 are actually divine numerous, numerous numbers. They're part of the system of God. It's the way God operates, and also the three, the Trinity. So one of the things that I teach my students when they take my course our cosmic origin, which I break down the entire galactic and cosmic history, from like the beginning nine, 50 billion years ago to now, is that when, when the one first divided itself, it divided itself into three. And this is where we kept the original concept of the paradise Trinity. The original Trinity, mother, father, child, and then it divided itself into seven. So from the three divided into seven. And this is where we get the concept of the seven Elohim, mighty Elohim, the seven chakras, major chakras, The Seven Super universes, because we are part of the Seven Super universe, there are six others. And that's been validated by a source of information known as the Urantia papers, which again was, was a transmission of records from higher beings back to the earth. And then the 12, because we are part of the 12 creation. After the seven the Godhead divides into 12. So we are part of the 12 creation. There are 11 creations that existed prior to our creation. And that explains why everything within our creation is within the numerical value of 1212, and 12 chakras, 12 strands of DNA, which is our original divine makeup as angelic, physical beings. By the way, we are part of the angelic kingdom. Remember, we've been descending, so we come from the top down. We just kind of, we're ready to go back now, the 12 Tribes of Israel, the 12 houses of the Zodiac, even in astrology, right? So that is very important to understand that the divine operates within the three, the seven and the 12. And those are divine numbers, and they're very significant within the spiritual communities, not only pertaining to our planet, but all of the advanced races out there that are existing in higher levels of reality.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:41

And I'm sorry for dropping this at the end of this episode, but since you are into history, from your perspective, who built the pyramids?

Ismael Perez 49:51

The pyramids were actually built by six dimensional beings known as the RA Confederacy. They were the blue avians from. Sirius B. They were also known as the Blue azurites. They were the bird people. Actually. That's why we see depictions of human bodies and bird heads when we see the hieroglyphs in Egypt. So they were built by a collective, rather known as the RA Confederacy, that come from Sirius B.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:19

And when? When did that happen?

Ismael Perez 50:23

Believe it or not, the first set of pyramids that were built were actually 50, contrary to what they teach us, was actually 50,000 years ago during the destruction of Lemuria, and they were designed for multiple reasons. The first and foremost reason was to kind of balance the equilibrium us, the the electromagnetic field of the Earth, because of the because of the destruction of Lemuria, our planet was very imbalanced. So they were there to kind of balance the electromagnetic field. And then later they realized that they could also be used to, like a battery. You know, they were, they were also used to harness cosmic energy, and then use that energy to power up the civilization. So during the Atlantean times, 50,000 years ago, they were actually using free energy that was generated from the pyramids. The pyramids were actually used as huge batteries that were actually harnessing what is known as planetary energy and cosmic energy, all at the same time, giving the Atlanteans Unlimited, unlimited amounts of power. And that's why the Atlanteans were able to be so advanced, you know. They were able to, you know, travel from planet to planet. They were going from, you know, dimension to dimension. They were multi dimensional beings as well, and they were interacting positively with the entire cosmic community.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:44

So I get curious, why has this knowledge disappeared? Why don't we see more traces of that story that you're sharing now?

Ismael Perez 51:55

Because unfortunately, about 25,000 years ago, about 25,000 years ago, a group of fallen extraterrestrials known as the Anunnaki, kind of changed things, and they invaded the earth. And when they invaded the earth, they actually destroyed a lot of this knowledge. They corrupted a lot of the records, including the Sumerian tablets, and that is the reason why all that information was deleted or omitted from history. Because they didn't want us to know our true cosmic origin. They didn't want us to know that we were all descendants of these advanced races that have existed prior to the flood and even before Atlantis and and moreover, you know, they didn't want us to know that we actually came from the stars. No one's native to this world, you know, at some point or another, this world was seeded by other civilizations, you know,

Jannecke Øinæs 52:50

sorry,

Ismael Perez 52:52

they overall, they just didn't want us to know that, that we that our ancestors seeded this planet millions of years ago.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:58

So they wanted to keep us in the dark. So that was them, not actually humans,

Ismael Perez 53:05

not humans. No, they were a they were a fallen race that aligned with the draconian reptilians coming from the raghill and the Alpha Draconis star system, which is an Orion. And they did it to kind of hijack our world. And then that's when they threw us into this slower reality. And that's what many people say. We fell from consciousness. The Atlanteans used to be more advanced, right? Spiritually. So we fell from consciousness about 12,000 years ago, and ever since then, it's like we had to start all over as as primitives, because we were reduced in consciousness down to the level of a little bit above the Neanderthals.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:42

When do you think Ishmael that this knowledge will come forward and be recognized in our world today?

Ismael Perez 53:51

It's happening now. It's happening now. Yeah, but we are going to experience a phenomenon that many call the Great Awakening, and that's when an explosion of information is just going to be coming into the limelight, including for the general public to see, and that a lot of that's going to start with certain government documents that are going to be released very, very soon. And many people believe this is the year that they are finally going to be releasing a lot of documents pertaining to a lot of the stuff that really took place, the truth about everything, the truth about the non Terrestrials, the truth about the free energy technologies that you know within the private sector these people have been using for over 80 years. And when that happens, that's when there's going to be an avalanche about all of this stuff it's going to be coming back to the earth in preparation for the Golden Age.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:46

Is that something you've seen in your vision, or, uh, telepathically received, maybe from that extraterrestrial,

Ismael Perez 54:50

um, both I've had visions of this this time coming, and I've also been receiving telepathic messages as well that, um. Uh, between, sometime between now and 2028 because I guess 2028 is when this current reality construct comes to an end. So we have, you know, sometime between now they have to start releasing a lot of the classified information, you know, that they've been withholding from us. And then when that happens, it's going to be one thing after another. And technically, that's the true meaning of what many people call apocalypse. It's not about the end of the world. It is about a revelation of information that has been withheld from the public for 1000s of years.

Jannecke Øinæs 55:29

Wow. I wonder where that will come from. Who will initiate that?

Ismael Perez 55:35

There's a lot of people in place already that are going to be releasing this information. It's happening right now as I speak, and I do believe that these people are actually pushing our government, in fact, that they're actually not pushing our government. They're forcing our government to release this information because they know that we are ending so many cycles, and that humanity is now ready to enter a golden age, and so therefore no longer We, therefore they cannot suppress us any longer. You know regarding our true origin as divine beings and who we really are as multi dimensional beings and where we're heading.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:11

So that means that they know, they know,

Ismael Perez 56:15

oh, they've known this, the powers that were, that were controlled by the Anunnaki that took over the affairs of the world. They have known this for years, for 1000s of years, and that's why they created organized religions. It was a way to keep us very at a low level of understanding of things, so that the elites, through secret societies, could only have access to this information, while keeping the masses in ignorance about their you know, the truth about everything that's going to be coming out soon.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:38

I think I could sit here and ask your questions forever, Ismael, but I know you have other things you have to do. Thank you so much for coming to the show. Was lovely having you here. Would love to have you back and dive even deeper. And I have a few questions that I ask all my guests, and the first one is, what is self love to you?

Ismael Perez 57:00

That is a very good question, by the way. It is totally accepting yourself for who you are and not judging yourself. That is self love,

Jannecke Øinæs 57:10

and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective,

Ismael Perez 57:20

that it's not what it seems, that we shouldn't take anything personal, because life is not happening to us. It's happening for us, and even the negative circumstances are here as a way for us to grow. So that's what the meaning of life is, is realizing that everything is a learning process, negative or positive, and that's how our spirit grows

Jannecke Øinæs 57:45

beautiful. What? How can people connect with you if they want to dive deeper into all your knowledge and material?

Ismael Perez 57:54

Well, I do have a very active YouTube channel where I go live three times a week with, you know, reports, galactic transmissions. That's called The Real Ismael Perez, the real Ishmael press. Unfortunately, I have some other people that are taking my content and they're posing to like their copycats are trying to be me. So those are fake channels. But so my YouTube channel is called The Real Ismael Perez, and then I also have a website where people could actually access all my platforms, my Instagram, my classes, because I do teach classes. I teach ascension basics and ascension 2.0 and then my famous classes are cosmic origin, where I break down the entire cosmic infrastructure going back to 990, 8 billion years, how it all began, from the first creation all the way to the 12th creation. So that website is called ourcosmicorigin.com. Ourcosmicorigin.com. Lovely. And then for those that are interested in learning about the galactic history and Earth's place in the multiverse, my book, Our Cosmic Origin is available on Amazon, as well as my other book called The Secret Government Revealing, you know, the secret history of our world.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:05

Thank you so much, Ismael for coming to the show and sharing your perspective and knowledge and doing your intriguing work and fascinating work. It

Ismael Perez 59:16

is a great honor and pleasure to serve at this time. Thank you.

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