From Hollywood Sci-Fi to Reality: The Journey of Parallel Self Exploration! With Florentin Ionita

Florentin Ionita 0:00

Would it be possible to meet your parallel cells out of your body? Yes, and that's something I've done multiple times, sometimes not by choice, sometimes I would want to get out of body in my own room. And as I'm leaving the body in a different apartment, not mine, and I look back and I see a person lying in the bed, but it's not this me. It's another person. It's another me. You can go in and out from different past lives and parallel lives, experience them and connect the dots as well to how this is connected to your life. Here what it is that you have to learn in this lifetime, and are you on the right path, or are you distracted with meaningless society, you know, distractions that we have in our day to day life now, how to create free energy, how to create cures for cancers, and there's so many things that we have already had for a long time, but they're not being allowed by the people in power to be rolled out on a global scale. They still want to control us.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01

Did we receive any knowledge about these advanced, advanced beings on humanity, like how we can actually break free from suppression and become similar like them?

Florentin Ionita 1:13

Yeah, the answer is quite simple. We just have to keep evolving ourselves. Keep evolving our consciousness by doing these type of things like astral projection, going away from the mainstream, kind of brainwashed reality that they're pushing onto us to tapping into ourselves more.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:38

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Florentin Ionita 1:58

All right, thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:00

You wrote to me, and you said that you were a former visual effects artist in Hollywood working on big blockbuster movies like The Iron Man, Superman, etc. But then you felt something was missing, and you went down a deep path into spirituality, and you found astral projection. And today you're a astral projection teacher and a guide. You're really passionate about this. Have had several mystical experiences. Now tell us your story before we go down the rabbit hole of what the astral realm is, why it's beneficial, beneficial to perhaps learn how to astral project and everything that relates to that. So how did you get into spirituality?

Florentin Ionita 2:51

I think, like many people, I was drawn to the supernatural, to the sort of the things that were just a little bit out there, sci fi movies were definitely one of those things that spoke to me. When I saw videos, movies with different planets and aliens and spaceships and superpowers, it just there was something within me that really lights up. I wanted to know a little bit more about it, and I got really into creating movies and visual effects that was showing these different skills, like Superman, you know, he can fly, he can shoot lasers through his eyes. And those kind of movies really spoke to me, and it made me question like, is this something that is just movies, or is there something more to this? And I think the more I was digging deeper into going down the rabbit hole of spirituality, I learned more and more about how sci fi, our world really, really is. And I can see the connections between the movies that I was working on and the reality that we were actually living in, that there are lots of aliens around and spacecraft, and that we do have all kinds of special powers. And when I started to realize these things, and I started to research them, I got really curious to actually try these out and see if it was actually true, if there's some sort of realness to this, or if it's just some theories or religious beliefs. So I got really I just walked deep down the rabbit hole to to explore these different topics, and that's how I stumbled across psychedelics, astral projection and all of these different things that helps you to go deeper with your soul's journey here on earth.

Jannecke Øinæs 4:35

All right, so I mean astral projection is, in a way, something you don't stumble across. Because to me, who have been doing this many years ago, it took me a long time to be able to astral project. I had to exercise and exercise and meditate and meditate. So tell us a little bit about that process. Like was it all of a sudden natural to you that you just Astro. Projected, because maybe you have a knack for it. I think some people have an easier way of coming out of their body, etc. Or was it something that you really like practice a lot to be able to do?

Florentin Ionita 5:15

Yeah, that's a great question. So it did not come to me like a spontaneous thing. I didn't just wake up one day and I could just do it that that's not the way it worked for me. I did have some lucid dreams growing up. So I had some beautiful lucid dreams that were showing me that you can have these kind of experiences that are that are in in you know, you can wake up in your dreams. You can control your dreams. I had those experiences, but I didn't have any out of body experiences, and we might talk about the difference later. It was only when I was looking for the truth. I was searching to understand reality. I was asking bigger questions. What is reality? Why are we here? Why am I here? What's my mission here? Is there a mission? Is there a purpose to this? All these questions, I wanted to have answer to those questions. And so I was looking for people and meetups, places I can go to learn. And what I would find is a lot of people that would just say things that sounded cool, like, oh, just trust in the universe and feel this energy and do this and it just for my skeptical and rational mind. It didn't really connect. It wasn't something that I could understand. It wasn't something that was helping me. So I needed to find someone that could actually teach me a bit more and a bit more grounded way. And it wasn't until I was recommended by a few people at a festival that I went to to go and check out this place in London where they actually teach this. I used to teach this, and so I would go there, and I'm like, Okay, let's explore this. I started going to this different workshops. Started hearing about the different energy bodies that we have, the different ways that we can have other body experiences and and it sounded really interesting, really sci fi, you know, really cool. But I was still skeptical. I wasn't sure if this was real, so I had to really go and experiment for myself and see how this was, if this was real or not. So the cool thing happened was that I we had, we were invited to go on a retreat for nine days, and then in the middle of nowhere in Ireland, in a house where we would practice out of body experiences. So we would have, like, we would have some vegan food. In the morning, we'll do some yoga, and then the whole day would just be about theoretical training, how to actually do this, and how it works, what to expect, all those kind of things. And then at night, we would sleep a few hours and then wake up at like around 5am in the morning. Everybody in the house, we're like 30 people, all in different bedrooms, waking up at the same time, putting on the same soundtracks. And the soundtracks are there to guide you into a specific state, a state where you're kind of awake and asleep. It's the theta brainwave state. And then once you're there, you're supposed to feel something. Usually it's like vibrations. You might start feeling vibrations moving through your body, and at that point you have to simply do an exit technique, which is essentially that you separate from your physical body. And our mission was to float downstairs to the living room and meet the other people that are also out of body and have a conversation where we exchange information, especially exchange a password. So everybody had their own password that nobody knew, and we had to exchange passwords. Out of 30 people that came to this retreat, three people managed to have a password exchange. One of those people had it in a very interesting way. She was, she was trying to speak to this individual that was actually having this person was sleeping in the in the living room, and it was kind of like half out of body, kind of sitting up in this kind of out of body state. But it was too he was too sleepy and unable to have any conscious awareness of what was happening. So she just kind of went up to him, like, Hey, give me the password, and he wouldn't respond. So she just kind of like telepathically, got the password from him, got back to his body, to her body, the next day, reported the actual experience and this, the password was correct. And that's moments like that when you when you get to experience this, when you get to, like, see people in front of you having these experiences that are just everyday, normal people. They're not, there's, there's nothing special about these people. They're not like some gurus that meditate for years or anything. Those experiences communicate to you that, wow, this is, this is possible. So then, of course, the next night, when I tried, I succeeded to have an experience. And we can talk about that as well, if you want to know more about that, but it's, that's how it kind of unfolded for me. It was through personal experiences. It was through having a teacher. Is through connecting with other people. That's how it becomes something more real. Because I think if you just read books about it, sounds a bit like a fairy tale. It doesn't really connect to you. It you need to have your own experiences. You need to see other people talking about their experiences. Needs to come into your field as this is nothing real. It's not fantasy. It's not imagination.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:25

Yeah, because you've said in another video that I watched with you that you sort of were skeptical when you heard all the people talk about it like, well, maybe they're making it up. It's a nice story, I wouldn't know. But when you had that own experience, you were not doubting anymore. It's something completely different to have your own experience. And was it that the first experience that sort of blew your mind and that made you sure that, oh gosh, there is something more?

Florentin Ionita 10:54

Yeah, I think the first experience says is what helps you to shift from being maybe a skeptic or a hopeful believer to to know when you have your experience a few experience, it can be just one. It depends on the experience, what you experience in that experience. My first experience in the workshop itself was I got into that state and I could start I could see through my eye mask. So I don't have it with me right now, but we have these very thick black eye masks that covers our eyes completely. There's no light pollution that comes in. So we use it so we don't get distracted by the outside world. And we use it in case we start seeing something like our room, for example, then we know that we're seeing the room with our known physical eyes. Because if you don't have the mask and you start seeing a room, you think, Oh, I have my eyes opened. Oh, let me close them. What did I do? And then you mess up the experience. So for me, what happened? I got into that state, and I start to see the room I was in as clearly as I can see you right now, everything was crystal clear. And for a moment I was like, do I have my eyes open? But then I remind myself that, no, I'm wearing a mask. It's impossible that I can see the room with my eyes. And I also felt there was a different feeling in my in my being. It wasn't the same feeling. I didn't feel the weight of my physical body. I felt an energy that I haven't felt before. It was a different mode of consciousness, a different state. I could think as clearly as I can, and maybe even more clearly as I can right now, as I'm awake and I could also beyond the vision, I can also hear sounds that are coming from outside of the room like so we were in this house in the middle of nowhere. There was it's completely silent. There's no noise, there's no traffic, nothing. But I could hear very clearly. I could hear the sounds of a river and the wind blowing in the trees and the birds making sounds like as if I was sitting in nature somewhere. I could hear that in this 360 stereo quality, and I knew in that moment that this is something that that this is this is happening. I'm now having a potential alibi experience. If I know now from experience that if I just left, if I just exited in that moment, I would have actually be able to just exit into the room I was in, but I didn't know, I mean, I was, I was so, I was so surprised and shocked by just being able to see through a thick physical mask and be able to hear sounds that was outside of the room, that that experience in itself was was enough for me to just go, Oh my God, what's going on? And what happens is, of course, if you get too excited, which what happened to me is I got excited. Then eventually, after a few seconds, the experience starts to fade away, and the mask became black again, the sounds disappear. I took off my mask, and I can see the room exactly like I saw it in that other state, but now the sounds were gone. It was completely silent. But what was interesting is that two days or one day later, we went for a walk around the area for the first time, and about 200 meters away from the house, there was actually a river, and all the sounds that I would hear from the room, you can hear them outside the house, but at a very long distance from the house, would have been impossible for me to hear that with my physical ears. So that was one of those confirmations that what I experienced wasn't my imagination. It was real. I knew it already, because you feel how real it is. It's there's no difference between the realism of this experience you have right now and that experience when you have another experience, is super vivid, super real. All your senses are like, Yep, this is real. It's just that I needed confirmation, just for my skeptical mind, that it was actually real. But it wasn't just like, you know, something else I.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:58

Yeah, what reflections did you start to make around death and dying and being out of body, and actually the difference and what, what you were outside your body, because we often identify with I'm Yannick, and I'm having this body, and what are we outside that body? So could you just share a little bit about your reflections around all of this?

Florentin Ionita 15:24

Yeah, I was actually thinking about this today. I was thinking about how much the experiences and the knowledge that you gain from astral projections and just being a part of this whole concept of the fact that you're a soul, incarnate in the body, having a human experience, and then when you die physically, you continue again as a soul. And we have this unique opportunity to explore that with astral projection, which there's no other there's no other way that we know of to explore this than with astral projection, to really explore your true essence, to really explore what you are, beyond the physical body and beyond your identity. Like you said, because right now, you have a specific identity. You're playing a specific avatar. This is like, who you're playing, but who is the player, who's playing the game. You can experience that version of you when you're out of body. And I think it's the most liberating experience, because it removes all these fears that we have, of death, worries of what's going to happen. You zoom out and you look at the universe from this more expanded state, understanding how you're connected to everybody and everything and all your other lives. You seeing the bigger picture, and you're feeling yourself into the bigger picture, which makes you much more calm and at peace. You don't get so sucked into the small problems that you have day to day life or big problems. You see them just like temporary things. They just happening right now, in this in this experience that your player is playing, but it's not defining who you are, because who you are is so much more beyond this life. And when I say these things, it sounds very cool. And if I listen so and talk about these things before having experiences, I would be like, Oh, this sounds really cool, but it's a belief system until you actually experience it. When you experience it, that's when you go into the knowing, and when you know, that's when you feel the transformation within that's when you start to behave differently. You see yourself differently. You see other people differently. You connect to other people differently. You don't judge people in the same way, because you don't see them as these avatars that they're playing, you see them as the player beyond the avatar, which then you have a lot of respect for, because we are the same. We're all playing this game together, different roles and different lifetimes, but we all come from the same source, and that understanding makes you feel so much more connected to everybody and everything. And again, it's it's not just a belief, it's a knowing, a knowing through your own experiences. That's what changes everything. Because you can believe everything, you can have these, all these different religions and believe in all kinds of stuff. But that's not going to help you to change into to to have that transformation.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:21

It seems like you received a lot of wisdom and knowledge about the nature of consciousness and the universe in these astral projections. Could you share some of the experiences, some mystical experiences that have really shifted the way you see reality?

Florentin Ionita 18:41

Yeah, there's so many experiences that connects to that. I think it's the is the process of going out there, having an experience, coming back, and then integrating it into understanding what that actually means in terms of reality. I can give you one example. I had an experience with some of my spirit guides, where I asked them, Why don't we remember our where we're from? Why don't remember who we are? Why don't we come here like completely empty and what they told me was that you're supposed to not remember. You're supposed to not know who you were before and why you are here so that you can live this experience completely clear and completely like a blank slate without any sort of coloring of the past or coloring of the of the past understandings or knowings. And everybody comes here with with sort of on the same with the same clean slate. They have no information from the past, which makes them they're able to live this life completely fully, with no, no baggage from the past, and also No, no no personality that can change the personality and. Life. So you get to experience this new avatar, this new life, fully. And it it came with when, when you get information in the in the astral, it doesn't always just come with it doesn't come just with words. It comes with a deeper emotional understanding as well. The same with psychedelics. If you ever had psychedelic experiences, and you have an experience where you feel like you're just one with the universe. That sounds very cliche when you say it in words, but if you experience it, you feel it emotionally. You feel it like in your being. And so this type of information I'm talking about right now, it's something that came to me from them, but it was connected on a much deeper level, where I was able to just kind of like, really feel what they're meaning by that, how it made so much more sense to not have anything with you, to just leave all that behind and just come in this fresh experience. And you might ask, what's the point of coming what's the point of living life after life after life, and not remembering anything from the previous life, so you don't remember it like thoughts like, oh, this happened, that happened. But you do have you do bring something with you. You bring wisdom with you. You bring some sort of knowing or some sort of things that you resonate with. There is something you bring with you. You don't just come completely empty. And you can see that if you look at children, two children, they're just the same, parents the same, everything they are. They act completely different. They have very different personalities. They were not shaped just by their environments and their education. They're shaped by also who they were before they came here. So there's something that comes through. There's like an essence, a mindset, maybe a sort of, kind of like a Yeah, I guess you can call it a personality. That personality is full of information that comes from our past lives, and you bring that with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:56

Now, for those who are a bit unsure what we're speaking about, like astral projection body. Could you just break that down a little bit and then explain also, where are you going when you're going out of body, astral realm? What is that? Is it heaven, or is it that, what we're speaking about, spirit world? What is it?

Florentin Ionita 22:17

Right? What is it? Okay? Well, I think there's different ways to visualize this in your mind. I like to think about it as in the technical way. Like to think about it. Imagine you have the internet, and you have all of these different websites that you can visit, and you can go to the different websites, if you know how to navigate this, the platforms you know, you can just kind of go to different websites. You can think of astral projection, a similar way that there are multiple dimensions out there, like different websites, that if you learn how to navigate, you can actually go to different websites, different dimensions. Different dimensions are different worlds, just like this one right now we're living in a physical world that has specific properties. Gravity works the specific way everything is kind of has specific rules how this dimension works. Well, you can go to other dimensions where the rules are slightly different where gravity isn't as strong, or where air is different, and those beings that live there look different, are different. It's like the way you want to imagine it is that you're shifting your frequency, just like a radio. You can with a radio, you can perceive different radio channels from the same place, you just shift the frequency of the radio. You're able to tap into different frequencies. You can tap into Kiss FM on one channel. You shift the frequency to a different you can tap into another channel. We do that the same thing with astral projection. Out of our experiences with our consciousness, we are able to get into these deeper states and start to shift our frequency, our perception, into another channel. And that's where, when you shift into another channel, you you immediately appear in a different world. You just appear in a different channel of reality. And there are multiple, probably countless, channels of reality out there that are, you know, some of them are very advanced, like they have flying cars and skyscrapers and beautiful astral cities, super advanced society, very high level consciousness, very evolved, like, way more than we are. And then some places are like, super primitive. They haven't implemented the fire yet, and they're still like, kind of Cayman awareness. They're just kind of really, really weird and dumb. There are beautiful places where there's, like, it's just full of love, and it's such a beautiful energy. There's like, this new. Music in the air, and the energy is like, pure, and everybody you meet there is like, so heart centered and so beautiful. And then you can go to other dimensions, where there's like, these very hellish environments, where there people are really sick and they're weird and they're scary looking, and it's like this dystopian looking environment gray. And there's going to be so many different worlds you can visit, and you go there, and you learn different things. You you you can speak to different people, that you can communicate with different people. You can learn different things about what they're doing there, what's happening there, and how that connects to this reality here. So it's an ongoing exploration that you you explore there and you bring back here. And what you're going to notice is that there's this commonality where as above so below, the things that you learn there are going to be really relatable to the your life here, and the things that you learn here is going to be relatable to your life there, or your experiences there. And as you keep going from one to another, you start puzzling together consciousness or the universe, or your perception of it, at least into a much more complete version, where you start to kind of like, Ah, I think I I get it now. I have a better understanding now. And that understanding, fortunately, is actually an understanding of love and understanding that there's this overwhelming love in the universe that connects everything, that the deeper you go, the more love you find, the more purpose, the more meaning, not the opposite, like something some people think that they might go too far and they find out things they don't want to know. No, no, you're not going to find things the more you learn, you're not going to find out things that's going to make you feel worse. You're going to find out things that's going to make you feel better, more connected and more more aligned and more love.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:56

It seems like it's infinitely vast and hard for the mind to comprehend what is possible when you're astral projecting. And a lot of people are speaking about parallel realities, parallel selves. Would it be possible to meet your parallel selves out of your body?

Florentin Ionita 27:16

Yes, and that's something I've done multiple times, sometimes not by choice. Sometimes I would want to get out of body in my own room, and as I'm leaving the body, and then I'm I get my vision to work, because a lot of times your vision takes a few seconds or minutes to actually appear. You have to command your vision to work. You have to command your sound to work, like activate the different senses. But once I get my vision to work, a lot of times I find myself in a different apartment, not mine, and I look back and I see a person lying in the bed, but it's not this me is another person. Is another me. And then I will look myself in the mirror, and I would have a completely different face. And as I'm experienced in this, I'm also getting downloads intuition, which is very strong in the advice state of, oh, this is actually not this me, but it's another me from that's experience that's living life in a different, parallel reality. So it's not like there's a million of Florentine that looks like me, that just chose different paths and is living different lives, like some of these quantum scientists talks about. It's not like that. It's more like there are different versions of you, but it's like completely different incarnations. They look different, they have a different life. They're all very different, but it's an incarnation of of your higher self, and all of them feed information to like the, maybe the oversoul, so to speak. So you can think about it as a maybe, like a tree that's branching out and has multiple experiences and multiple dimensions at the same time or in different times, but they all feed into the same sort of tree in the end of the day. And sometimes I've experienced lifetimes that I there's something that's happened. There maybe one lifetime that I experienced there was, there was I came into a house that was empty, and there was, like it was a bit messy, like something just happened. And I was, I got the information through that something had happened to my family that I had there. There's some something bad happened. And I got really, like, sucked into this story. I was trying to figure out, okay, who, who did this, what happened here? And I was trying to, like, a detective, trying to figure things out. I was talking to different people trying to figure things out. I was I got so involved, and then the next experience I'd have will go to the same place again, and I'll continue the same sort of investigation. And it was interesting how much you get sucked into the experiences that you have there. Because when you're. Like, when you're having an experience, you're so present with that experience. Like, right now we're talking you were so present in this moment with me, but tomorrow, when you think about this, it's just like a memory. It's just like something that's gone. But right now, you're so immersed in it. And that's how these experiences are. When you're in them, you're so immersed, it's almost like you forget about your life back home for the moment. You're just like, now I'm in this new life. I have to experience I have to find out what happened here. You get it becomes so important to you that you figure out what the problem is, that you solve it that. And then when you come back to your body, you're like, Whoa. What was that? It's like a different life, Okay, interesting. And then now you're back into your your normal life, and you focused on that, and that life feels a bit like this distant memory that's not you anymore, but it is you. But you can go in and out from different experiences. You can lean going and out from different past lives and in parallel lives, experience them and and connect the dots as well to how this is connected to your life here, and what it is that you have to learn in this lifetime. And are you on the right path? Are you actually doing the thing that you came here to do, or are you distracted with meaningless society, distractions that we have in our day to day life? Now, I think that's important for people to think about if they're actually living their purpose, or if they're kind of off track.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:29

And how can we understand or figure out if we're on the right track or not? And how did you discover if you were aligned with your purpose?

Florentin Ionita 31:41

So the inner world is going to reflect itself in the outer world. So you're going to be able to see signs of it in your outer world. You're going to be able to see how your your reality is behaving. Are you experiencing similar patterns where you end up, and I'm talking about like, the more the challenging situations, that's usually where you can find these answers, like, if you're experiencing a lot of challenges in a certain area, and it doesn't happen just once, happens multiple times. That's a clear sort of sign that there's a pattern in your field, in yourself, that is mirroring the experience in the outside world, and it happens on repeat, which means that there's a pattern that's that there's something that's creating that pattern, and that pattern either comes from something within this life, maybe like a childhood trauma that you haven't resolved, or it can be from a past life that you're now playing out In this life. And so to for example, just illustrate that example, one of my past life, I was very, I was very much involved in a war, like a, like a leader of a war, or some sort of high up position. And my life was all about war, revenge, fighting, and I died in a, in some sort of battle, or in a in a prison, or, you know, something like that. And I remember that when I finished that life, I remember telling myself that, telling myself that I would I never want to have at war again. I never want to be a part of war again. War is the worst thing that can happen to to humanity. Is the one thing we have to really keep ourself away from and then I came into this experience, and I most of my childhood is full of mini wars, in a way. There's a lot of bullies, there's a lot of fights in school. There's a lot of racism that I had to overcome living in Sweden, growing up there, and a lot of fights happening over over again. Then, as an adult, fight stops. There was no more fights anymore. But then there was other things, like confrontations with people, maybe payment disputes in the business, or maybe just different conflicts. And my inner warrior would always want to fight these situations and and fight for fairness and fight for fairness with with fire. You know, that's how I would be doing it. And after getting that insight that this is this is this is the other life that's kind of still carrying on that energy of a warrior with itself, and after understanding that what I wanted to do in this life was to shift that no longer be in the warrior fighting energy, but actually shift into love, shift live from love and compassion. Then everything kind of makes sense. And now it's more about integrating this new mindset, this new way of being, where you don't handle conflicts with the same energy with with aggression. Instead, I'm always trying to find what is the, what is the path of love, because I never want to have, I would never want to experience the the other side, which was the war and the fight again. I know that what I want, and I think it's the same for everybody, really, if you look deeper, enough, deep enough, what. We really want is the opposite side, is the peace, is the love. But it's like, it's a big challenge. How do you live from love in the physical reality where there is conflict? How do you deal with the conflict when people are being very nasty to you? And that's what I'm learning and trying to figure out. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff there, and one experience as well that really helped me with this when it comes to astral projection, was meeting the guy the first time and having her telling me that my purpose, the reason I incarnated here, was to experience love and relationships. It was to understand and learn more about love and relationships, and so that theme has been constantly going throughout my life, that I have to be, have to understand the concept of love more, dissect it, live from it, and it's, it's an ongoing life journey to to really understand what that means, because it's not just love for other people. It's also love for yourself, and it's balancing those different dynamics and living from that. Yeah, it's a journey.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:09

I think your your sound, or I couldn't hear the name. Who did you say that you met and that helped you understand this?

Florentin Ionita 36:20

Oh, so I met my spirit guide in one of my astral projection experiences, and just to illustrate a little bit how that could happen, so I made a very strong intention that I want to connect with my spirit guide. I want to meet my spirit guide. Why? Well, because I want to find out why I'm here. This is one of the most important questions I think most explorers have and desires to connect with the spirit guide. And that that night, when I did so, I was laying down, I was meditating, I was doing the work. And as I got into the right state, I suddenly feel a very gentle, warm hand grabbing my hand. And, it wasn't, it wasn't weird. I mean, it was weird, but it was, it was, it was very real. It felt like someone was in my room, like if you're lying down right now, and suddenly your friend just grabs your hand. That's how real it felt. And in that moment, I just had to remind myself to stay calm and just go with it. And this hand I could feel, it was a woman's hand. This hand was pulling me softly, and he pulled me all the way so I would, you know, stand up in front of my my bed, and then I was out of body. Finally, like, Oh, I was trying to get a body for a while. Here go. A hand has helped me to get a body, and I can tell it was a female hand. I got my vision to work. And we use different commands, like vision now, vision now, awareness now, you have to, kind of like, really express them to make them work. And as I got my vision to work. Whoever helped me was gone, ran away or whatever. And I was now like in this forest, and there will, there was nobody, there had to look for, for things to do. And I remembered my intention to see my guide. And I just kept repeating it to myself, I want to see my spirit guide. I want to meet my spirit guide. And as I, as I was walking, I then saw this Pocahontas looking woman floating above the ground like this much, and I knew from that moment, like this is she's the one. She's the she's my spirit guy. She was just waiting for me there. And then when I asked her the question, that's what she told me, she was like, Yeah, you came here because you wanted to experience love relationships and all of that, understand all of that, how that works, which was a big surprise, because I thought she's going to say something like, yeah, you came here to save the world or do something really, like cool or whatever, but I had no idea what this was going to say anything like that. One thing to mention, though about astral projections, they're different to dreams in terms of what they how they work with dreams is a lot about symbols. Yeah, you might, you might see a dragon and a monster or whatever, but that, that's a symbol. It's not a real thing. It's a symbol, usually for, maybe for your boss that you're afraid of. So that's how you interpret dreams. But with astral projections, they're much more straightforward. Like what you see is, is not a symbol. It's like real it's like the the way the message is, unless it's a lucid dream, then it becomes dream symbolism again. But if you're having Audubon experiences, the things you're seeing are, are the things you're seeing. So it's much easier to interpret them than a dream or a lucid dream.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:49

I was fascinated, well, by everything you're saying, but also very fascinated by what you said about going to other dimensions, looking at different. Civilizations. What was that? Something you were just drawn to, like? Did it happen automatically and and would you like to share some dimensions or other species that you met that really just blew your mind and gave you new knowledge, perhaps, of what's out there,

Florentin Ionita 40:23

yeah, I can talk about some of these places. I think they are. They all have something special. They all have they're all They're all just like, yeah, they're all different, and they're all special in their own ways. And some of them are, they have like aliens that look like, maybe they have a fish head, kind of look with with different openings here. And, you know, very sci fi alien looking, kind of creatures, but usually peaceful, just going about their days, just going to work, or whatever, nothing, nothing weird. And then I think one of the cool, one of the coolest places was this place where they had these, like, imagine, like cars but or like transportation, and the way that would move was, was completely it was very, very fast. I'll just kind of move forward, then left and right, then go up, then go down, then. And they'll just move next to each other and not hit each other, almost like a like Tetris of very fast moving objects. They're all going to different places, but they're going so fast, and they they stop, and they change direction, they go this, and in a way like we could never do that with our technology, because we will get squashed if we're set in one of those. We just got smashed on the window. But they created some sort of technology that allowed them to move very fast in different directions without impacting the environment of the people are sitting in the transportation so you would sit in one of those and you can look out the window, and you move very fast, but you will not feel anything. You will not feel like, whoa. I'm moving this way, moving that way. Now you just the environment inside is, like, comfortable, and there's no G forces whatsoever. They figured out how to remove yourself from the laws of physics somehow. And then there was also, like, the one of the cool things that you would see is med beds, these beds that you just lay down and you can heal your your body in just a matter of minutes or seconds, whatever is incorrect with your body. This This machine can just scan through and then with sound frequency, it would just send a specific sound frequency to different cells, and then you'll be healed. And everybody had those in their home, and it was just normal technology that they had. And people were super beautiful, super healthy, like there's no imperfection on their face, everything's just super clean their skin, their their walk, they they just, they have this, like, super healthy presence with them, the way they're carrying themselves, the way they speak to you, the way they know as well. A lot of times, when you speak to these different, more advanced beings, they always know who you are, like. They know that you're visiting. They know that they're not from there, and they're trying to show you around and teach you about their culture, about their reality. And they're very warm, very happy to answer any questions you might have. They they might also have this, some these, these very high tech devices that when it can show you like they have a watch, they can show you like a hologram that appears in your, in your, in your mind of what they're trying to talk about. So when they're talking to you, they're showing you with like three images what they're talking about, you get to, like, really experience the things they're talking about in your awareness with their devices that they have. So it's super advanced stuff. You know, I wish we had some scientists that can go out there, bring that knowledge, take it back here and create some cool stuff.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:58

Yeah, I was just thinking about it. You should write a book so we could advance our technology. But maybe we're already doing it, or maybe it's already available, because, like CIA, have been having projects on this, and they have awareness around this. I think a lot of governments have. So it seems like a lot of the technology is perhaps there. Maybe,

Florentin Ionita 44:21

yeah, I think the sad thing is that all of these things exists. We have had knowledge about how to create healing machines, like these beds, how to create a free energy, how to create cures for cancers. And there's so many things that we have already had for a long time, but they're not being allowed by the people in power to be rolled out on a global scale. We're not allowed to use these technologies. They still want to control us. So they don't, they don't want us to be all this, you know, free and connected. So there's, there's a suppression that keeps happening with these things. Unfortunately.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:00

And speaking of that, did you receive any knowledge about no from these advanced, advanced beings on humanity, like how we can actually break free from suppression and become similar like them?

Florentin Ionita 45:18

Yeah, this the answer is quite simple. We just have to keep evolving ourselves, keep evolving our consciousness by doing these type of things, like astral projection, like going away from the mainstream, kind of brainwashed reality that they're pushing onto us, to tapping into ourselves more, to having these experiences to going, go out beyond the physical and start to really understand what's going on there. So it's a it's usually a personal journey that you have to go on, just like I did, like if someone just came to me and told me a bunch of stuff, it will be hard for me to integrate that and believe that, because it's just, it's going to be my own belief about what they say. But if people go out, go out there, and they have these experiences for themselves, and they're able to validate that, whoa, whoa, yes, I am a soul. I am here temporarily. This, the knowledge that you get, understanding that you get, can then help you to want to wake up more and more and more, realize more things change the way you live life, inspire other people to live differently. You know, wake up from the matrix and stay away from from what they're trying to push onto you, and kind of be more conscious in that way. That's definitely the the what we have to do as a species. More More and more people have to just wake up. And the way to wake up is really with these kind of powerful tools, it's hard to just like, wake up. Okay, what does that mean? How do I wake up? Well, you have to have experiences that are beyond your limited perception of reality that you have right now. And most people are trapped in this, in the same belief system and understanding of reality that we learned back in school, all that people talk about in conversations, maybe something they've seen in the movie, you need to step out of that to really get that full understanding. And there's still so much. I'm not saying I have the full picture, because there's so much more to see and understand. It's like a It's an endless lifetime of exploration out there and knowledge to to learn and levels to get to. But this is the this is the path we have to we come here. We're not knowing anything, just like my guide said, we don't remember anything. We don't know why we're here, and it's our job to find out why we're here. It's our job to align ourselves with our purpose. It's our job to wake up here. It's our job to to heal from past lives and to create heaven on earth like we have to do that. It's our it's our mission here,

Jannecke Øinæs 47:54

now in the astral realm, or whatever we can call it, like out of body. Would you be able to travel to the future? And did you do that?

Florentin Ionita 48:07

Yes, you can travel to the the future. I don't think a person I've not been to like a future version of Earth. Yet. I've just, I've been to different parallel versions or peril realities that are more advanced that are living in the in the future, but like or like, let's just say maybe they have had more time to evolve so different realities that are living a very futuristic life. But I haven't been to the future of the planet, for example, it's not something that I've been wanting to to go into either so much,

Jannecke Øinæs 48:41

but that is possible like it is there.

Florentin Ionita 48:45

Is possible it is there as a potential future. So you have to understand that things aren't like already decided. Things aren't in you know? Yeah, they're not. Your fate isn't exactly decided we are creating reality as we're speaking, but the universe is very advanced, and it can already predict where things are going to go based on how things are going right now. So there's going to be some probable future timelines that you can visit, which are probable future timelines, unless something big changes, you can visit those and you can also go back in time and visit past events on history

Jannecke Øinæs 49:32

that is so interesting, because if you would travel to the future and the timeline and that wouldn't happen, where would that timeline go? Would it just vanish?

Florentin Ionita 49:48

I think the problem is that we're looking at time in a linear way, and we're trying to understand time from our human perspective of time, and time works in a different way. And. In the universe. And I don't know if it's, it's it's really hard to actually understand how time works, but I can give you an example from one of the most famous autobiotic explorers, which is Robert Monroe. Maybe you read his books. In his second book, he talks about an experience where he he gets to he has this, like, he has an experience where he sees his past life, and one of his past life he dies on the battlefield. Someone throws a spear in his body, and he's like, he falls down, but then he stands up and he looks at his body, and his physical body is now on the floor, and he's kind of confused, like, Am I Am I dead? Why am I very confused? Because this will happen when people die, they leave their bodies, and then they can see their their dead physical body on the floor. And that's what happened to him. And in that very moment, there was a being of light that came from the sky, and just kind of reached out his hand and grabbed him and took him away from the battlefield, and that's in his second book. In his third book, when it gets more and more advanced, he talks about how he was. He let go of trying to navigate the Arabic experiences with his ego or with his like desires, and just adopted a new way of traveling, which was higher self take me to where I should go or where I should learn, or he let his higher self control his alibi experiences. And that's when it really took off for him. And what happened was that in one of these experiences, he would be called to help different people with their transition. So maybe he'll go to an old people's home, and there'll be like an old lady there that just passed and she's confused, and he will help her to understand that she's now dead and passed on to the other side, and just kind of help her move to the astral planes, where people go when they pass away. So he'll be like helping the it'd be like a service for humanity in the transition moments. And one of the experiences that he had in the third book is him seeing a person on the battlefield that got speared, and he goes up and saved this individual from the battlefield. So he is the person that died, died on the battlefield, but he's also the one saving himself from the battlefield. So that's how time works, that you can actually connect with future versions of yourself and past version yourself and pass on information and experiences in a very weird, entangled way that is harder for our mind to comprehend.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:41

For sure, I've interviewed a lot of NDE experiencers, and many of them are saying the same, that they're coming to a beautiful place and meeting their loved ones. Maybe a tunnel a life review, where does that fit into the outer body experience? You just mentioned it shortly, that they will go to the astral realm, but the astral realm seems so much so. Could you share about what would you think happens when we actually die?

Florentin Ionita 53:13

Yeah, great question. And I think it's very important for people to look into near death experiences, because they're so connected to out of body experiences. It's essentially the same thing we're experiencing the same thing we're leaving our bodies and near death experiences when you're leaving a body in a very traumatic way, usually not in a way that you want to, usually not because you want to, because something bad just happened, maybe you're an accident or something. Another body experiences when you're doing voluntarily through a specific technique. And it's a very pleasant experience, but it's always the same experience that you're leaving the body, and you can see the body lying on the floor or in the bed meditating, and you have that disconnection. And then you can go to different places when you are dying, when you pass to the other side. So there's a few things that can happen. If the person is very attached to their life here, they would linger around here. They will not go. They'll just kind of stay around here, just like we hear ghosts would do, you know, they'll just kind of keep living in the house they're living in that they're not able to let go of their their identity here. They're just, they're very attached to their life, and they're going to be around here for a while, until they are ready to kind of let go, or until someone can can help them with that transition, someone that is a light worker that helps people with these kind of transitions. And that's what that's not really what you want for yourself or for your family member. You want to go to one of these astral communities. And so there are the astral dimension is extremely vast. There's all kinds of stuff there, but there are communities specifically for people that has passed away. And usually there's a transition you would go to rehabilitation center where you have to kind of like, just kind of heal from your. Even experience and remember a little bit more of what happened, why you went there, and you know where you are now, and kind of you you're gonna you go through a little bit of a educational remembrance moments with different teachers that help you integrate yourself in this new life that you have now, and you let go of the previous life that you just had, and also understand the lessons and all that kind of stuff and integrate it. And you can stay in this place for a long time, for as long as you want, or you can decide to go back and reincarnate again into another lifetime and continue a specific lesson that you really wanted to learn, that you maybe didn't learn in this lifetime, that you just had. You have the choice to go back if you want to, or you can stay. It's not like a soul trap where you've been thrown back again and then use trapped here and and you're stuck in this like incarnation cycle that you cannot break. And it's a prison. I know some of some beliefs that people have, which I think is pretty dark. It's not like that. You You get to choose, and you get to learn, and you get to stay if you want to. And there's also, what's important to mention is that there are multiple places like that. Depending on your level of consciousness, you go to different places. So if you are very, very Christian. You will go to some Christian version of heaven where it's it's very much like the beliefs of people that believe in Christianity. Though there is a there's a dimension for Christianity. There's dimension where there's like a door in the clouds, and you can go and open that door, you can live that sort of Christian heaven dimension lifestyle for a while, but that's not, that's not all there is. That's just one world. Then there's a Muslim world, where you can go in that world and has their version of what God is. And there's, there's going to be one for different religions, but they're not the ultimate truth. They're just like, again, a sort of a simulation or another world to live experience that belief that they have, but it goes beyond you. Can go much higher than that, and much much higher. And there's so many levels,

Jannecke Øinæs 57:12

yeah, if I can just jump in, because that's again, a collection or a collective of beliefs, again. So is that sort of another game. In the game, I mean that it's created by a collective belief,

Florentin Ionita 57:27

yeah. So we, we, you know, through manifestation. We know that we create our own reality here in the physical, and also we create realities out in the astrals as well. So if enough people believe in a specific religion, just like Christianity. And is often, you know, imagining, thinking about it, all, heaven, heaven, angels. They'll create these, this world, on this other levels. And then you can go, they can go and visit those worlds afterwards. This is actually all something you can do with manifestation in your own life. You can start visualizing and creating, let's say, your dream house. And then you can get out of body. You can visit that house that you've been creating, and you can see it and watch it, and walk around in your house. Your your thoughts are programming the universe. Your imagination is like the blueprint that decides how energy should form itself in these other levels. And every time you imagine things, you're creating things. If you imagine it long enough, you can start materializing that into this dimension as well. But there's always a delay with our manifestations here in the physical as you know,

Jannecke Øinæs 58:31

super fascinating, and I'm always looking for but what's that real? Real reality behind the beliefs that is created. Where is the true reality? But maybe there's Yeah, maybe there isn't one. Maybe everything is beliefs or Yeah, everything is correct.

Florentin Ionita 58:55

Sorry, that's the journey, that's the journey of truth that we us. I would say, astral projectors, autobi explorers, psychedelic you know, Psychonauts. This is what we're looking for. We're looking for the ultimate truth, beyond all the belief systems, beyond all the layers of of deception. And, you know, what is it at the end? You know, what do we find that it's a journey. It's not going to be someone that can tell you that with words. It's going to be an experience that you have to have of your own. And that's what I think. It's beautiful. I think it's beautiful to not know and go on the path of learning. It's a mystery that can unfold.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:38

For sure. I actually thought that I would find it in the afterlife, like once my time is over, that's when I find it. But I have realized that it's just an ongoing journey,

Florentin Ionita 59:51

an ongoing journey. Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 59:55

you know, I have so many more questions, but we'll have to do those another. Time, but this was highly, highly interesting, really inspiring to listen to. And I have a few questions I ask all my guests, and you've been mentioning it a bit, but I want to ask you again, what is self love, to you?

Florentin Ionita 1:00:15

Self love? Wow. Okay, that's a big question. I think that's one of those. That's one of the areas that I'm working on right now to understand, because I've been exploring a lot love for others, and I've been doing a good job being a person that takes care of other people, make sure that people are happy, and all that really focuses so much on other people, but I've been lacking, or I've been not focusing so much on my own love. And now, as I'm going on this path of understanding, I'm trying to figure out how to balance the two so but with my current understanding of self love, I think it's, it's an, it's definitely an emotional state that you it's a frequency that you want to be in. It's a frequency that you can anchor into your life and live from that frequency. And so it's like, once you can identify the frequency and the emotion that you want to be in, it's, it's really about living from that frequency, making decisions from that frequency. And that is ultimately self love for me, because it's not just the mental, oh, you have to do this and that, no, it's a specific frequency and emotional state that you want to embody and be in. And then from that state, you will know how to be loving to yourself, and you will know how to be loving to others.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:48

And final one, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Florentin Ionita 1:01:59

Hmm,

Florentin Ionita 1:02:10

I think is to wake up, to wake up to who we are, what we are, and to to to this like, it's almost like we're we're lost, and we have to find ourselves. And that's the that's the meaning just really find ourselves, that that's that's the journey, at least in this lifetime, in this experience, in this version of reality we're in right now. Because you have to think about it. Maybe there's different meanings in different worlds. Maybe each life is like a different game that you're playing. And this life might be, Oh, who am I? What am I doing here? What's the purpose of this? And that's like the the name of the game in this life, but in a different life, in a different world, it might be a completely different one. And that's, that's the that's something to ponder over. So then the ultimate one. Who knows what the ultimate one is? I don't think I have the answer to that at this slide, at this point in my life.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:10

I didn't expect to. Thank you so much. I mean, I bet there are people out there now in the audience who really wants to try astral projection, test it out. Do it themselves. Explore this. How can they work with you?

Florentin Ionita 1:03:26

So the best way to work with us is to go to the website elasticperception.com a link will be in the description, I believe, and you can watch the video there that just explains a bit more about what to expect and all that kind of stuff. It's going to train you on some basic things like limits and beliefs and fears, and demystify some of those fears that are out there that, oh, you might be lost if you go to body and you won't be able to get back to your body like, No, you will come back. Don't worry. Just help you through those processes and just kind of show you what you need to do next in order to learn everything. Will be guided. You'll be guided there. I would say what you can expect if you work with us is that we have the most advanced program to learn this. We have the most complete program, the one that actually really, really works. If you look at our trust pilot reviews, we have only five stars, and we really help people. We take people by the hand through this process. It's not something that you just do on your own. Like, hey, good luck. Here's some information. Good luck. Hope you get out of body. It's like, we really help you to to get a body of all every step by step, with coaching, with videos, with very special soundtracks and meditation soundtracks that you can learn. It's a it's a proven system that we teach people how to have these experiences, and it's not that hard as people think, you don't have to be a super guru or a meditator. For years, when I started this, I didn't meditate. I didn't know how to meditate. You don't have to learn how to meditate. It's a different type of meditation. That we're doing this program, so don't worry, just go for it and see what you will find on the other side of the rabbit hole.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:10

Yeah, and I can be a testament to that this is real, because I've been astral projecting myself, so I know it's very real. Thank you so much for coming to the show today and all the best with your work.

Florentin Ionita 1:05:23

Thank you, and good luck to everybody that's listening. It's your journey.