Quantum Consciousness and the Hidden Power of the Human Mind! With Dr Theresa Bullard

Dr Theresa Bullard 0:00

We live in a quantum universe from the most basic foundational level of what builds up the whole universe. If you were to take your entire body, for example, and take away the empty space between the electrons and the protons of your atoms, your entire body would fit on the head of a needle. There is a divine intelligence, a God above, but we're still one with it. We're part of it. We're not separate from it. Our brain, for example, is not the originator of consciousness. It's more like the transistor radio that knows how to tune into consciousness. Our technologies have started to outpace our wisdom. That becomes a really dangerous situation. If they're being used purely by selfish, you know, ego driven, materially oriented values, then we could apply it in very destructive ways which we see happen. You know, we, I mean, we weaponize everything. The generations alive today are some of the most important generations probably ever on the planet.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10

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Dr Theresa Bullard 1:29

Thank you, Jannecke, it's a pleasure to be here.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:31

I'm really excited to have you on the show today, Teresa, because you have a PhD in physics, and you're an author and a speaker, a teacher on Gaia, on mystical teachings, and you have this beautiful gift of connecting physics with ancient spiritual knowledge, which I think is more important now than ever. Now, hw do you feel our conversation today is going to expand people's consciousness?

Dr Theresa Bullard 1:59

Well, I think expanding consciousness is what you know, everything is pointing towards right now in our world, like we are moving into a time of rapid acceleration, the world is changing before us, and because of that, we're, you know, things are really uncertain, things are really complex, and our old ways of thinking that we've operated by for hundreds of years, even 1000s of years, sometimes they just aren't serving us anymore in our highly complex, fast paced, uncertain world of today. So for me, the work that I'm doing is very much about how can we how can we shift our way of thinking and expand our consciousness so that we can make the leap that we are being asked to make in our world today. So I hope that will expand consciousness both in helping you know thyself more a little bit more clarity around your potential and who and what you are and and how we can reorient our thinking in a way that really serves us in in the new world that we're moving into

Jannecke Øinæs 3:00

beautiful and speaking of who we are, on your website, it says that we're in a quantum universe where quantum principles underlie everything in the universe, and we, too are quantum beings. Can you break that down and explain what that means for us as humans?

Dr Theresa Bullard 3:18

Okay, great, so you know, we usually operate in our day to day world, you know, in a very three dimensional, one dimension of time, three dimensions of space, kind of way of thinking, right? And at a macroscopic level, when it comes to the body, we're, you know, we're the we have these organs. We have these different systems. And if you, if you drill down further, you get into the cellular level of our being. And if you keep going down further and zooming in, you know, what are we made of, right? This is about what we are like, what creates us as we are. And we can go down, for example, into the DNA. And your DNA is this molecular structure that holds the blueprint, the template of you, and it's the part of us that gives us all the instruction code to build the physical body. And there's also parts of the DNA that I think are part of our spiritual blueprint, not just our physical blueprint. There's light, there's encoded light information that is contained within the DNA. But if we go even deeper than the DNA, we get into the molecules, we get into the chemicals, we get into the atoms, right? And as we start drilling down deeper into that atomic scale of things, that's where we start hitting the quantum level of our being. But within every atom there is not just particles, right the density. So if you were to take your entire body, for example, and take away the that, what we consider, usually empty space, if you were to take all of that away and just like, say, okay, the space. Between the the electrons and the protons of your atoms is going to collapse now, then your entire body would fit on the head of a needle, and that's how much like physical density we actually are. The rest of it is not this physical density of materia. It's energy fields, it's spaciousness, it's possibilities and probabilities and all this quantum information and energy and field that is there within every atom of our being. So when I say that, you know, we live in a quantum universe from the most basic foundational level of what builds up the whole universe. It all starts at a quantum level. It starts with fields of energy and information and force, forces and the dynamics that govern how all the particles and the chemicals and the molecules and all the way up, how it operates, how it can bond together, how it forms the structures of our macroscopic world, from us all the way up to, you know, intergalactic structures, even even black holes and intergalactic kind of networks and so forth, all of that still has quantum principles that are governing how it operates. So this is about understanding ourselves at a deeper level. Ultimately, is not just knowing who we are, bio, biologically and chemically, but knowing who we are at a quantum scale, because that's the foundation of our being.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:36

And how can I as a human being use this information to help me manifest, for instance, in my life.

Dr Theresa Bullard 6:44

Yeah, so when we understand that at the most fundamental level, we are quantum beings, and that our greater there's great potential. There's many possibilities contained within that quantum essence, that quantum field, then if we want to tap into it, we need to understand how the quantum works. So there's certain principles that govern the quantum realm that are not the same as the principles that govern things at a macroscopic, 3d physical kind of way of operating. And so we need to really reorient our way of not just our way of thinking, but it's about learning to attune your consciousness. Because consciousness itself, I believe, is quantum in its nature, that it is a quantum field that we can tap into. So our brain, for example, is not the originator of consciousness. It's more like the transistor radio that knows how to tune into consciousness. It's like a it's like a computer turning into the Wi Fi. The Wi Fi is out there, but the computer has, you know, the circuitry that allows it to tap into it. Well, to me, consciousness is a field that is out there, and we all have the ability through our brain and our neurology and our heart, not just our brain, but also the heart and the gut. We have the the receptors and the the transistors, if you will, to tune in to those frequencies. So we need to understand, first of all, how consciousness itself, the field of consciousness, which is more quantum, how does that work? And then, how can we train our neurology, our, you know, our neural wiring and our ability to focus our will and our intent and so forth, to communicate, into and tap into that field of consciousness in a more powerful way, in a quantum way, and when we can access things at a quantum level. Now many, many possibilities open up for us, many more potentials open up for us, more energy, more options, things that we like. Let's say we can use our consciousness to inform the quantum field, because the quantum field works with information, and we can inform it. We can communicate with it. We can help to establish a certain level of consciousness that directly interfaces into a quantum level, and that one of the keys to doing that is coherence. Right the quantum realm, for example, things need to be coherent. When it's coherent, it's still in this state of what they call superposition. Within the quantum like it's there's many possibilities, many options that are available. There's a cloud of probability and many, many possibilities that can come out of that. But when it becomes manifested out from a quantum state into a measurable state in our physical realm, they call it decoherence. It's decohering out. Yeah, so, you know, in order to be in the quantum state, we need to be coherent. In order to be in our physical density state, you know, you have a lot of diversity. You have things that are they separate out from each other, so they're not always so coherent here at this level. So part of it is learning about, how can we become more coherent in our all levels of our being, right from from our brain coherence to our heart coherence to even the gut coherence to DNA coherence to atomic level you know and consciousness. And how can you bring your whole being into a state of coherence so that you can now resonate at the levels needed to access the quantum field.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:45

Wow, I get tons, tons of questions right there. I mean, it is so fascinating, isn't it, that we have a 3d world that operates differently than the quantum world, that they seem not to go together, like if I look at a thing, like my lights here, and I blink and I look again, it's there, and I feel it's there all the time. Like all the physical objects around me are there, but in the quantum world, they can just disappear if I don't look at them directly. Now, what are your thoughts about that this incoherence? It seems like,

Dr Theresa Bullard 11:25

Yeah, well, it, you know, so in so the quantum does scale up. There is a scaling that happens where it scales up to our physical, macroscopic world, but it's through statistical analysis. So things are happening at a quantum level. Let's say when you're at the micro size of things, or the subatomic size of things. But as you start adding more and more and more things together from a quantum level, they start statistically there's an averaging out that happens. So what we experience in our 3d kind of physical material world at a macroscopic level is more like a statistical average of what's happening at the micro level. And so yeah, what it things will stay state stable here. We've observed certain things here and or those things are also interacting with other things, and in that interaction there's there sometimes will be a decoherence or a collapsing of the waveform of probabilities and possibilities into actuality. But when it's in that state of coherence, still things are in the quantum level there. They don't actually like exist in the way that we would say they exist. They're more like in a field of energy, of possible states all simultaneously there. And they say sometimes, like in the if you took out all of the particles, and you're just left with the vacuum, the quantum vacuum, because of certain quantum principles, especially what we call uncertainty principle. There's there's never 100% certainty on what whether there is or isn't something there. So even if we took out all the temperature, and you had absolute zero temperature, and you took out all the particles, and you had nothing in that space. There's still something actually there. And what's there is ultimately fields of energy and fields of possibility, and but they're virtual, right? So you could have particles popping in and out of that vacuum, that quantum vacuum, and then they pop out, they annihilate each other again, and then they disappear. And it all happens so fast that, you know, as far as our observation of it goes, there is nothing happening, right? Because it's happening at such a different frequency and speed that from our perspective, at the macroscopic level, we say it's we call it virtual. It's not really happening. It's just the possibility of it is there. But they have been able to measure these things in various particles popping out of the vac the quantum vacuum, for example, when they do their linear accelerator experiments. And the key there is that they have to put a lot of energy in. And when they put in the energy, and they have these laser beams of particles that they smash together at really high levels of energy, then you start getting all these other, you know, particles coming out of the quantum field, and, you know, breaking apart and discovering lots of different possibilities of new particles there. So you know, when it comes to manifestation, which is what you were asking about there is not so simple as, okay, I'm looking, and therefore it's going to manifest, versus, I'm not looking, and then it's, it's not manifested, right? It's observation in a quantum sense. Is. Is it's a process whereby we have a certain, let's say a scientist wants to run an experiment like they, they often talk about the double slit experiment, and they have an assumption, right? That they think, Okay, well, that we're going to measure electrons as a particle. And then they set up their experiment to test that assumption or that hypothesis. And so they're going to test, is it a particle? So they're going to have, like, you know, particle detectors on one end. And then they they send the beam of electrons through the double slit, and then they see, yep, there's particles happening here. Then they ask, well, what if? What if electrons are a wave? What if we set up the experiment differently to see if they have wave like behavior? And then they set it up as a double slit, but to see on the other side of that double slit, is it wave? Do they have interference patterns, for example, like, if you were to send a wave of light or even a wave of water through the slits, it'll create interference patterns on the other side. And then when they set up their experiment that way, yeah, they see, ah, it is. It has wave like behavior. But how can it be both a particle and a wave? And that really depends on how they choose to set up their experiment. So from our perspective, when it comes to consciousness, we have our assumptions, we have our biases, we and our expectations right and and based on our assumptions and biases and expectations, we're that's going to influence our perception of things, and then we're in if consciousness is also a quantum field, then we're sending that thought of our expectation into the quantum field. And then, you know, that's kind of like how we're setting up our experiments in consciousness. And that's usually what we're going to get, right? It becomes sort of this feedback of it reflects our own consciousness back to us, our own expectations, back to us. But if we change the way we think and we open up our lens, if you will, to other possibilities, then we, you know, might be able to start perceiving and and informing the quantum field in a totally different way to get whole new reality, shape taking shape before us. So the other key when it comes to consciousness informing the quantum field is, can we bring our consciousness into coherence? You know, for example, when people talk about the law of attraction and the power of intention, and therefore it's quantum that, well, it's not necessarily Quantum. And that's, you know, because people are they're thinking one thing at a conscious level, and then subconsciously they have a completely different belief going on under the surface. And and then their words might say something else yet again, right? So they have these different levels of consciousness, and they're not always aligned. They might consciously intend one thing and subconsciously think that they don't deserve it, but they want it, but they don't, you know, they don't deserve it, or maybe it's not really possible. So they have their doubts. And so then there's different pieces of information being sent into the quantum field of consciousness, and because of that, there's mixed messages. And so it's not coherent, it's decoherence. So it's not, it's not actually going to inform the quantum field if you can't bring the the wholeness of your being into alignment with that thing that you're trying to manifest. So you know, how aligned Are you? And this is why, when people work with the law of attraction and power of intention, they're not always getting consistent results right, because they're not coherent within their consciousness. They're not fully aligned necessarily with what it is they're trying to manifest and and it's like we have to really come to a much higher level of awareness within our you know, the way in which we attune our frequencies. It's almost like you have to have laser sharp focus, right? Like a laser can send in very coherent energy and light and information into an atom, and it's going to, it's going to create a quantum effect. When we shine a laser on various atomic structures, it'll Excite, it'll create that quantum leap. For example, our consciousness can't really inform the field if it's not focused like a laser, right? So we have to have that focus, that alignment, everything has to be totally in sync with what it is we're trying to inform the quantum field with.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:51

I get that, and then we are humans, and it seems almost impossible, and that very few of us are able to do that. But with our subconsciousness, where we're not aware what's there, many of us can't remember what happened to us in our childhood. And also concentration, like this laser focus, our minds are more split than ever. I believe attention span is not as long as it used to be. So how is it all about healing and shadow work to get there?

Dr Theresa Bullard 20:27

Well, that's certainly a part of it that, you know, we're not going to get there if we don't put in the effort to master our own will and consciousness, right? So if you're just going to be running your life based on, you know, reaction to the outer world, and you're never really trying to harness yourself and how you direct your energy, how you direct your attention, how you direct your thoughts, then you won't get there, right? You're going to get mixed results all the time. But if you're willing to put in the effort to improve upon yourself, to harness your will, to discipline your mind, to control your emotions, to empty out the subconscious, which we can do there are really good methods and ways of working with that, and to have a practice of meditation, for example, so that you can learn to quiet your mind. All of these are tools that we can use to become more and more masterful in our ability to harness consciousness, to harness our energy and our attention. So there is a way to do it. It's not that we can't do it. It's more about whether there's a will to do it and a commitment to being ready to apply yourself to do it, and then when you are, that's, you know, that's really what, what I'm here for is like to how to train people and how to do that, how to how to harness your consciousness, how to, you know, master your own will, how to create a pattern of living on a day to day basis that supports you in, you know, really maintaining that state of balance and coherence, you know, from day to day, and then from there, you know, and you don't really, you don't need anything outside of you. You just need to know the right practices that you can apply yourself towards, so that you can create a new way, a new foundation that you stand upon that's based on establishing that flow from the inside out, versus it being from always the outside in.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:28

Now some religions are pointing to that outside God, that outside power and spiritual traditions might point to the inner God, or the inner genius. Now what is your perspective on this. And what you have discovered in your studies about the field, do you think that there is an intelligent field out there that's also inside and by the doing the inner work, we can develop these superpowers and step into a godlike super potential in some way, or become like these superhuman

Dr Theresa Bullard 23:03

I definitely agree that there is a God within right, that there is the inner divine self that is eternal, that is intelligent, that has wisdom, that is connected to all it is, and that as we tune in more and more to that inner divinity, then you know, you really come to know, who am I? Right? What is the essence of me? And it's not defined by this body. It's not defined by this life. It's not defined by what's happened to me in this life. It's something that it transcends and is far beyond this life, and yet it's always here with us now. And so there's definitely that eternal being, that that I am God, that God Self within. And yes, we have huge potential, like humans, have huge potential to rise up to being like superhuman, like, you know, a God like human, while still living in this physical life, right? And that's ultimately what in the ancient wisdom traditions, ancient spiritual traditions, was about achieving what Kabbalists called the Adam Kadmon, the Perfected Human, or what the alchemist called the philosopher's stone, which was you becoming the Perfected version of you, you know. And in like Tibetan system, they talked about achieving the rainbow body, or the light body. You know, there's lots of different ways that it's been referred to in various ancient mystical traditions, but they're all pointing to the same thing, that we have massive potential within us, that it is godlike, it is eternal and and yet, there's process, you know, there's an alchemical process, a transformational process that we have to go through to go from, you know, just start our mundane self, where we just, you know, only living like, like a like an animal type human, just based on physicality alone, and we have to stress. Drive towards a more spiritual way of life, to tap into that spiritual potential and essence. And at the same time, I also feel that it's very important that even while we recognize that God is within, that I am, that divine being, that it's not just me, right? And it like we all have that divinity within number one. And when you take that collective of all humanity, that there is also a greater collective divinity of humans. And then if you take all of that and go beyond humanity, you know there's a greater collective of the solar system. There's a greater collective of the galaxy. There's a greater collective of the universe. And there's, you know, a source of intelligence that it all of that is contained within. And so there is a divine intelligence, a God above, if you will, or that transcends and is beyond us, but we're still one with it. We're a part of it. We're not separate from it. So I think it's important that we recognize there is a divine level, if you want to call it God, source universe, whatever you want to call it, there is something greater than me, and yet I'm not separate from it. I am a part of it. I am, I am one with it. And so there is also the recognition of the divine within. And both of these are really important parts to realize, because if we the trap that happens when people think, well, it's all just only in me, I am God, but there's nothing beyond me, then it becomes food for the ego to grab hold and become to, you know, kind of hit that point of spiritual arrogance, you know, or where we think we're above God, and it's all just about my will and that that goes in a very bad direction. So we have to kind of have this great sense of self respect and love for our own divine essence, while remaining humble and recognizing that there's always something greater than and beyond me.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:11

That was beautiful. And I'm curious about your own spiritual work, how that has changed your life. I mean, one thing is everything you've studied, another thing is what you've practiced yourself. So what are sort of the things you have seen manifest and changed and transformed in your life applying these principles that you're now teaching others?

Dr Theresa Bullard 27:34

Yeah, well, if I go back to when I started out on my path that I'm currently on. So I was in physics. I was getting my PhD. I was probably spending 80 hours a week just on left brain physics only. So it was, like, very, very focused on the scientific approach. And that's all there was prior to that. Prior to grad school, I had diversity and balance and a lot of things. But then as I got into my beginning part of grad school, it was like that was all science, left brain research classes, testing all that was all I had room for. And that left me in a position where I was actually feeling very disconnected from myself. I found myself in a state of dissatisfaction, a bit of depression, like I was, I was lacking in joy, I was lacking in purpose and and a deeper sense of meaning and fulfillment. And that put me in a position where it's like, okay, something's got to change here, because I had a sense of balance and joy and all of that before now it's missing what? What is the key to finding that balance again. And so I brought in, you know, social time and creative hobbies and athletics and all of these things that I had in my life prior, and they helped me have maybe more more well being. But they didn't. They didn't fill that gap of joy and purpose and meaning. And it was only when I started to search into the spiritual dimension again, that there was a reawakening of joy, a reawakening of creativity, a reawakening of purpose and meaning in my life. And so at that stage, I started pursuing everything I could where it was spirit meets, or at least complements quantum physics, right? And that science and spirituality can complement each other, not negate one another, not be in conflict with one another. So I couldn't really go into organized religious approach, for example, and for me also a lot of the new age, while it had some interesting ideas, it was ungrounded. And so I needed something that bridged the scientific approach with the spiritual approach. And so I dove in to the ancient, Western Mystery School tradition. I found my way to an organization called the modern mystery school that I will say that. Know, along the way, I had my my doubts, but the results of the practice was what kept me going, right? So the practice is ultimately where the real transformation happens. Like we can consume all the information, but if we're not living it, if we're not applying it in our lives, it can't do anything for you. So you know, knowledge is not enough. I really learned that in a big way, both you know, scientific knowledge is not enough, and even just spiritual knowledge is not enough. It needs to be grounded, it needs to be applied, it needs to be lived. And so through the practice that I learned through the Mystery School tradition, it was a combination of meditation, like rituals, energy practices, Qi exercises, studying contemplation and initiation and receiving initiation within the lineage and the tradition, and even if I had my doubts and my opinions about whether I agreed or didn't agree with the teachings or even the story of where some of it came from, I could experience directly the results of the initiations I received certain activations, you know, empowerment and every single step I took. It produced results in my life. It created sustainable transformation. Not just like feels good in the moment, but then it doesn't really manifest into a real shift. This was like, well, it might be subtle in the moment, but it created sustainable transformation. It really transformed my life. So through, you know, this, this path that I found where I was living and practicing the tools it, you know, it led to things like greater joy, greater purpose, greater sense of coming to know oneself, and taking away the masks of like the negative ego and the personality stuff that were just coping strategies and really getting into, you know, who am I? What is my rhythm? What is what are my gifts? What am I really here for? And and how can I bring that forward? And then it also helped me realize, like I'm not necessarily feeling called to just follow the Matrix Model of, you know, get your PhD, then go become a professor, then, you know, do research and physics for the rest of your life. Like that wasn't appealing to me, and I realized, like, oh, I can actually forge a totally different path, and I can help, you know, be one of those pioneers who's bringing science and spirituality together and follow my passion, right? So it gave me the courage to follow my passion and having a greater sense of inner guidance and intuition and tools to be able to, you know, work real magic. That's all I can say, is there's, there is a real thing of magic that science can't explain. I'm sure there is an explanation for it when science advances, but we can harness it. And I've, like, experienced firsthand that there is a there's reality to this ability to make miracles happen, you know, to to really be in the flow in of synchronicity and co creation with the universe through the practice and through belief, right? And sometimes, in order to start perceiving what's there just beyond the veil of our perception, we have to open up our beliefs first. So if we come back to, you know, how is this going to help people shift consciousness? You know, the more we can expand our belief system, the more we even allow ourselves to perceive what's there to you know, even like this is a huge part of my journey. I had to shift from the scientific skeptical mindset that questioned everything. There's nothing wrong with questioning, right? I still question, but I you know, the in as a scientist, I was programmed and trained through my education to be skeptical so and it was like everything had to be proven to me before I believe it. Right. That's the approach of science. When I see it, then I'll believe it. But through my path with the Mystery School tradition, I started to realize that by disbelieving, by assuming, from the beginning, I disbelieve something, I close my ability to even perceive it, even if it's right in front of my face. And that in order to start perceiving and opening one's awareness up to greater possibilities. We have to allow ourselves to at least believe it might be maybe right, there's a possibility. I'm not going to say no, not going to say yes, I'm just going to allow it to be a possibility and let it reveal itself to me as I create space for that to be revealed. To me. So it really, I would say, actually helped me shift into what the original scientific approach was, which was to have no bias, and to, you know, be open to the possibilities. And let's see by the results, you know, let's see what happens when we try this or try that. And then, you know, let's see from the results. And for me, the results continue to point to, yeah, there is a there's something called Magic, and it's real and that we can inform the universe somehow what it is we want to make happen in our lives, so long as we're willing to step into being an active co creator in that, it's not like it's outside of us, it's in us, and we have to participate with it. And that's a very quantum view, right? That the universe is participatory, and it requires our engagement, so that we can help direct the creative potentials towards what it is we really want to to to manifest. But it doesn't mean you don't take action. You still have to take action,

Jannecke Øinæs 36:06

of course. Yeah, yeah. I, I often say I can't just meditate myself to 800 episodes. I actually have to do it like we we have to also take some inspired action, which is one of the universal laws. It's not all about visualizing and meditating. I'm curious how you got the courage to express your opinions and and beliefs when you dove that deep into Newtonian science, like, what were the reactions from your peers and colleagues? And how did you get the courage to express your your views on things,

Dr Theresa Bullard 36:43

such a deep conversation there. So I think for me, I was in a place where I had to make a shift, like I just science alone was was leading me down a path of of, you know, really getting depressed and completely dissatisfied with life, I probably would have quit science had I not actually found spiritual purpose. So it was, it was stifling the spark in me, and it was, it was really stifling the joy, stifling the creativity, like I was becoming very disconnected with an essential part of myself by only approaching things from the scientific perspective, I had the good fortune to have been brought up with a really open mind and a lot of exposure to metaphysical things. So my parents were really open minded, and my mom in particular, I would say, expose me to things from a younger age, but I didn't really gravitate towards it when I was younger. It was just sort of okay. I know it works. I know energy healing is a thing, because it helped me heal from sports injuries, for example, took away headaches when the Advil wouldn't you know they like I had real, tangible evidence from very physical, practical things, that there is such a thing as energy healing. And I had the had the fort, the good fortune, like I was exposed to Christian upbringing, for example, but it wasn't really pushed upon me by my parents. It was just sort of like, you can explore. You have permission to explore. So I had all of that before, and I'm really grateful for that, because it helped me recognize that when I went from this life of a lot of diversity and exploration to one thing, which was physics alone, there was a stark contrast in my life. And so I knew this isn't right. What's happening right now is not right, and I'm not going to, not even going to stick with physics or survive this graduate school process if I don't find balance again. So I had that contrast, which really helped me recognize it, and then the courage came, because it was just like, well, it's not worth it to me first of all, right, so I think there's priorities. It wasn't worth it to me to sacrifice my well being and my sense of joy just to get the PhD. So there had to be something more that kept me going with that and and I had to find a way to do it with balance. So that's what put me on my search. Then when I did start realizing spirituality was the thing. Of course, I was like, I was really afraid to come out at first, you know, because I watched other like colleagues and grad students, for example, if they talked about how, you know, their spiritual beliefs, let's say religious, usually at the time, how they would be, like, ostracized by the physics community, and how they get attacked, and their credibility would be at stake, and all this. And they, you know, because they believed in something spiritual, and it was like there was such a culture that it was not permissible to talk about any. Anything spiritual, anything consciousness related, even philosophical. Like, I wanted to get into like, well, what does this quantum physics stuff mean? What is the what is the the what is the implication of it beyond technology and just how the universe works at a subatomic level? What does it mean for us? You know, I really wanted to explore that, but there was not permission to talk about that in grad school, so in the physics education system, in my day, I think it's changing by now, but it when I was there in like, the late 90s, early 2000s it was not, you know, I had to be kind of in the closet about my spirituality, let's say, and I was deathly afraid, because you really get programmed that your credibility is everything. So I was really afraid of losing credibility, and so I just kept it in the closet for a long time. But then what I did was I but I knew it was important for me as a personal level, so I started to seek outside of the physics community, find other communities where I could find people that you know, like, yeah, I could, I could connect with them at that level. So I had two very separate lives for a while because of that. And yet, the more I grew spiritually, the more I felt like, when I went into the to the physics community and did my research, I felt like at odds with myself, like I couldn't be myself, you know. So it was this constant struggle between, can I be true to myself and, or do I just fit in and? And the more I grew in my coming to know myself and and I healed through the journey, and I, like, shed away a lot of the insecurities and, you know, the masks and so forth. The more and more I realized, like, I have to be true to myself. Like, if I'm not true to myself, then there's, you know, I'm creating misery for myself by not being true to myself. And so I just had to take a leap and gain the courage and, you know? So I made some changes in in my process, where it's like, okay, I switched my research midstream and went into a different group, and then I just like, look, this is who I am, you know, and you don't have to accept it, but this is who I am, but it doesn't weigh upon whether I can do research and and, you know, earn my degree. So, you know, I at least was more true to myself. And then meanwhile, I started teaching in metaphysics. I started teaching things like sacred geometry and eventually, and some of the mystery school stuff, and I teach Kabbalah, and I loved it. I absolutely loved it. It lit me up. And so my passion was there, my heart was there. And, you know, and then so I had these two totally different lives, where on one hand I was doing metaphysical things, and on the other hand I was doing my research in physics, and one fed me and fulfilled me, and the other one just was kind of like, why am I doing this? And I did try to leave physics, actually, several times, but the universe kept pointing me back to go finish my PhD. So I ultimately did. I did the grind and I finished my PhD, but when I was finally done with it, I knew well by then that I'm totally going on a different track here. So, you know, I'm just going to follow my heart moving forward and and, you know, be a bridge, versus trying to fit in. So that was, yeah, it was a big struggle for many years, but eventually I just kept taking those steps with my spiritual development, and it gave me the courage to make the leap and to be seen for who I am.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:45

Yeah, and I think it's getting harder and harder not to be authentic these days that especially I believe if we have chosen beforehand, before we incarnated, this is my belief system, that we're going to make a difference in a certain way, we're going to expand people's consciousness, then our soul will really knock on the door and help us do so, and it will just feel terrible not to be authentic, like we just have to do it. That's at least the way I feel. I just have to do this. I don't really know why, like, in my head, I don't know why I'm doing this. It makes sense, though, but it's just something I need to do, like, everything in my body saying. So now I'm curious, what do you feel, if you can sum up, like, the biggest misunderstanding from Newtonian science, what would that be?

Dr Theresa Bullard 44:43

Well, that we're all separate. So there's like four, four major principles that come out of Newtonian science. One of them is that everything is deterministic. So it says, you know, that the universe should work like clockwork, and we know today that. That's not true, but we still think that way, right? So that that idea of determinism really made its way into the mindset. During the Industrial like scientific revolution, Age of Enlightenment, rationality and reason and so forth, started to really become prominent. And it would say that everything is deterministic. If we know all the initial conditions and we have everything planned out properly, then we should be able to control and predict how everything is going to flow from here, right? So it's predictable. It's controllable because it's deterministic. Then the second principle is, is um, like separation. So it would say that we, if we can separate out, it's kind of a reductionism and separation go together. So we can separate out all the parts that make up a whole, and we isolate each of those parts, and then we study each part. Then we should then automatically know how the whole works. So that's reductionism. Is that we reduce things to their parts, and then study the individual parts, and then we know how the whole works, but it completely ignores synergy and the interaction, the relationship, the complexity that comes when two parts interact with each other. So thinking of it very mechanistically, like, like gears in a clock, but that's not how living systems work, for example. So we know that's not really entirely true either. So separatism is that we are separate, right? That you and I are separate, that mind and body are separate, so that they kind of separated it out, and that, if it's separate, you know, that also leads to this idea of, I have to maybe fear something that's outside of me. And then when you added on to that Darwinian sort of theories of survival of the fittest, which isn't actually Darwin's theory, but it's what kind of spun out, you know, the work caught on because it was more aligned with certain philosophies of the day, of the there are certain beings that are, you know, more fit, if you will, to be the top of the the top of the pyramid. And so that survival of the fittest kind of added in competition on top of separation, that we have to fight for survival. We have to fight for limited resources and and only the strong survive, whereas Darwin's original theory was actually the weakest is what gets eliminated, not only the strongest survive. So there's a real difference there. And he also said that species actually survived far more on cooperation than they do on competition, but the competition was the thing that kind of the principle that got extracted. And then the fourth one would be realism, that things are materially physically real, and the only thing therefore that's real is the material. So it led to materialism, and we still have that in forming, even with quantum physics. Now you know our scientific paradigm, the which has become what we call scientism, is that there is a dogma to it, and that dogma is that only the material is real and everything else is not real. It's just in your head. And if it's in your head, it's just subjective. It's not measurable, you know. It's not you know. So it doesn't fit within the realm of science. So science really divorced itself from consciousness and subjectivity, and that divorce happened after Newton, not during Newton's time, because Newton was actually an alchemist, and he had 1000s of pages of journal writing and so forth, all about alchemy, and his Principia was one paper that he published that brought forward the laws of motion that you know, allowed them to predict the cycle of the planets and so forth, and gravity and all of that. Those laws of motion were in one paper that he published called Principia. But he had 1000s of journals of alchemy, and his alchemy, as an alchemist, The Alchemist is actually where this the tradition where science emerged from. The alchemists, however, believed that science and spirit, that material and consciousness, like that, they were two parts, two essential ingredients to a whole. And they all of their experimental work that they did in the laboratories as alchemists was was to try and perfect things and to raise the physical up to the spiritual level, and also, at the same time, bring the spiritual level more embodied into the physical. That was their goal. And so in the original days of science, there was no separation, really, between mind and matter, or between spirit and physical. They were, they were in every I mean, I think to me, the more I studied about alchemy, the more I realized, like, actually, they had a quantum mindset. The Alchemist had a quantum mindset. They just called it something different. They saw that everything was connected. They saw that, you know, that there is consciousness, and it's a really important part of the process, even while we're doing a physical experiment. They saw that there's, you know, essence that we can extract that is eternal, you know. So there's they had a very different mindset than what science became. And the reason that science divorced itself from the spirit, I think, really was more political and money driven, right? There are two things. One, they didn't want to infringe upon the territory of the church, right, and the church was the authority on all things spirit, and they didn't want to threaten the church. They but they wanted the freedom to be able to explore things and understand the mind of God. That was what the original alchemists were trying to do, and they wanted the freedom to continue to do their research. And so they said, We won't say anything about the spirit so that we can really try to understand how nature works. And so that was one reason that they divorced, and then the other reason was really money driven, like, for example, to make an alchemical remedy, which modern pharmacology came out of alchemy as well, and to make it all chemical remedy, though, you had to pay attention to the lunar cycles, the solar cycles, the star alignments. You had to pay attention to astrology. You had to you had to grow and have a certain connection in nature, and grow the plants or harvest the plants at certain times. Everything was about timing, and it wasn't just about the physical, chemical process. So it took a lot longer to create an alchemical remedy, but it had a certain synergy to it, a certain essence to it, that was a heightened vibration. But then it, you know, you weren't able to make as much money on it, because it was a slow process. So then there's a certain point where the the pharmacological approach started to divorce itself so that it could just do the chemical, you know, approach to medicine, versus the alchemical approach to medicine. And then in doing that, it just made it all about materiality, that we don't need to think about these energetic things or these consciousness things. It's just about the chemistry and the physical things. So there's a couple motives behind that, that separation that happened between science and spirit, but I don't think it's a fundamental disconnect between them. I think it's more of a belief system. And you know, there are certain practical things around the business side of it that made it inconvenient to still work things from an alchemical perspective, interesting.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:14

And do you see a change in that? And do you see that as part of the shift of consciousness that many people are speaking about.

Dr Theresa Bullard 53:23

Yeah, definitely. I mean, this is big part of why I ultimately decided to also devote myself to bridging science and spirit, is that we have entered a time where I think ultimately some of the advancements that we've made scientifically and technologically have happened because of that separation from from science and spirit. So it's not that it was an entirely bad thing. We've we've advanced quite a lot technologically and in our knowledge and in our understanding scientifically. But the problem is that our knowledge and our technology has outpaced our wisdom, and we've, we've gradually been divorcing ourselves more and more from the spirit and religion. And, you know, we've gone more and more secularized in our world and and then science became the new religion. It became the, the ultimate authority, if you will. And in the process, if it just becomes only about what we can know, what we can, you know, devise technologically, and you know what makes sense from a rational material level, then we're divorcing ourselves more and more from the spirit, and there's no wisdom behind it. And so I see that our technologies have started to outpace our wisdom, and that becomes a really dangerous situation on the planet, because we're we're developing like really powerful technologies right now, and if they're being used purely by selfish, you know, ego driven. And materially oriented values, then we're not applying it for the good of the whole, first of all, and and secondly, we could, we could apply it in very destructive ways which we see happen. You know, we, I mean, we weaponize everything. And so, you know that weaponization of greater advancement of tools and technology and knowledge becomes more and more dangerous for humanity. So to me, I think that the pendulum swung so far to one side that there's a rebalancing that's happening within the collective now, like there's just like I felt like something's really missing, and, and that thing that's missing is really important to a sense of meaning and purpose and joy and well being and and so I think at a collective level that's been happening that there's there's this recognition that something's missing and that the spirit is important. And there's a certain like we went so far away, even from from certain ethics and morality, and there's a swing and a push that's moving back in that direction. It's coming from different angles. You know, for some it's the spiritual awakening. For others, it's more religious in its nature. But there's a push back towards a certain level of wisdom and morality and ethics and and how can we steer things towards the good of the whole, not just towards, you know, the material approach to things? So yeah, I think definitely we're coming. We went through a time of separation. Now we're coming back through a time of conjunction, of recombining the essential ingredients, but hopefully doing it in a way that is purified, right? We've purified out a lot of the dogmas and the corruption that was happening spiritually, let's say, from the religious perspective and and even technologically, from the scientific perspective, I think there's more and more recognition that there's that the the newest frontier is in consciousness. And you know, not just from an AI perspective or from a neuro chip perspective, but like, literally, the the essence and the potential that is still within humans, that we are still just discovering.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:22

What do you feel is the most important question we can ask ourselves right now in these times?

Dr Theresa Bullard 57:28

Well, who am I is always the most important question, Who am I? And who am I is not about like your name or how you define yourself in life. It's more like, what is that essence of I? Right? Who am I? What is the i and and where does that come from? And so forth, like really connect into that, that essence that is a part of your eternal and essential self. And then, how do I want to contribute to this time on the planet. What difference do I want to make? Or what am I here? You know, to how am I here to contribute? So I think that those of us who are here, the generations alive today, are some of the most important generations probably ever on the planet and in the history of humanity, because we're at such a critical time of, you know, multiple tipping points all at once, and such a major change in, you know, global society that's happening right now, and what each and every individual does during this time makes a difference. And you can think, Well, I'm just one person, what can I possibly do? But you matter, right? And what you choose to put your attention towards right now matters. I mean, that's one of the most valuable commodities in the world today, is your attention. And you know, I mean, all the big data centers, you know that they're trying to mine people's data around what they're interested in and what they're putting their attention towards. I mean, that's it's already being, you know, monetized. But you your energy, what you direct your energy and your attention towards, it matters, not just from a matrix perspective, but in terms of you living your life and the quality of life that you can live, and the impact that you can make while you're here, and what you make of your life. You know, are you bringing light and positivity, or are you bringing negativity? And then what is the ripple effect of that? So what contribution Do you want to make? I think those are the two most important questions right now, because it all matters, and the more you can come to know thyself and who you truly are, that true you, and then get into alignment with that. And then ask from that place, if I'm aligned with my true self, how do I want to show up in the world? What do I want to contribute? How can I apply myself in the best way? Like being, be congruent, be coherent with that true you. And then I can say, from my life experience, that that has made all the difference is really trying to be true to the self and yet make a make a positive difference in the world, like that's where true joy and fulfillment comes from. So that would be my advice. Beautiful.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:20

That was so inspiring. It has been such a joy having you here. This is so interesting, and I would love to have you back, because, my, oh, my, we just scratched the surface here.

Dr Theresa Bullard 1:00:31

So you had a lot of questions. There was like, I don't know we're gonna get to all of this. Yeah, an hour goes by very fast, so I'm yeah, I'd be happy to you know, explore into other topics with you. On another on another one.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:45

Lovely. I have a few questions that I ask everyone, and the first one is, what is self love to you, Theresa?

Dr Theresa Bullard 1:00:52

Well, self love would start with acceptance. Self acceptance and recognition of your innate worth, your innate value, that you have something beautiful and valuable to bring to the world. And when you can start to have that, you know recognition within the self, and that acceptance of the self, and then choose to give of the self, right? Because love, ultimately, is an is a force that moves through us that wants to give love, is an outward moving force. So the self love needs to be expressed outwardly, and when you give of your gifts and your true essence that then flows and creates more self respect, but also more sense of satisfaction that, yeah, I am making a difference, that I can I have something worthy to share with others

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:50

I love that I haven't heard it in that way before. It makes so much sense, beautiful and the biggest one of all, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Dr Theresa Bullard 1:02:01

I think the deeper meaning of life is one to gain in experience of what it's like to be in the physical. I think that our spirit is infinite and eternal, and, you know, has this experience of this physical life for a short time on the grand scale of things. And so we're here for a reason. You know, we're here to experience this dimension and what it's like to manifest and create with our own hands and our own efforts and actions, and learn from that direct experience. And we might have the at a spiritual level. I think we already have all the knowledge, so it's not like we're here to know something, but we are here to gain experience with what we knew in theory at a spiritual level. Here we can experience it, manifest it, receive the reflection of our manifestations, refine what it is we know and come to really, truly understand. So we talk about in Kabbalah, we talk about progressing our knowledge to understanding through experience. But then also, I think, the other key, we don't want to just end with understanding. We want to achieve wisdom. And wisdom comes through serving being, you know, bringing more light into the world, making the world a better place for your presence. And if you can, if you can, make it better that even when you're gone and you're not there anymore. Physically, somehow you made a mark, you made a difference that left things better than then Had you not come so I think those are some of the really important aspects of what we're here for.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:35

That is powerful. And I I assume people just want more now. So where can they go if they want to learn from you?

Dr Theresa Bullard 1:03:43

So there's my main website is Theresabullard.com and that shows more the the breadth of the various things I do, from Mystery School to my my episodes on Gaia with mystery teachings, and then also my work with the the quantum stuff. Right? So I have another company called the Quantum Learning Academy. They could go to quantumlearningacademy.co, not.com but.co and there you'll find more the like, you know, if we want to bridge the quantum mindset into consciousness, and you know how we can expand our consciousness, that's I'm doing that under the quantum Learning Academy. But then if they want to dive into the mysteries and the spiritual practice and so forth, and that, I would say, is with some of the work that I do at the modern Mystery School, and they can find out all of it at Theresabullard.com.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:41

Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming to the show and thank you for your powerful, beautiful work and bravery to go your own way so you can help others.

Dr Theresa Bullard 1:04:50

Thank you. It's a pleasure.