The Quantum Consciousness Formula for Manifestation! With Dr. Espen Wold-Jensen

Dr. Espen 0:00

That's why people don't know that they are heroes, that they are magicians, that they are God like creators. They just walk around like I did, and say, hey, when will I heal? But you can heal yourself when you tap into the power of breath. One day when the doctor walked into the hospital and he looked at me and he said, Aspen, the infection is spreading. In order to save your life, we have to amputate your leg. But in that moment, something much greater than me took over and came through me and told me to go home and breathe. And so I breathed every day, sometimes multiple times a day for three and a half weeks, and I had the infection for a year and two months, almost died, and in three and a half weeks, I completely healed myself. You're walking around with a superpower hidden right underneath your nose, and no one has taught you how to use it. So let's go then. Poppy syndrome is real. We've been conditioned to think, Oh, you don't talk highly about yourself. You might come across cocky. Imagine that, that little child, the young you, the four year old girl, a four year old boy. That was just like, I'm in love with life. Life is amazing. I am awesome. And someone comes along because of their conditioned belief, and they said, shut up, don't talk like that. Who are you to say that you're incredible? And we believed it. We bought the belief. We borrowed the program. Our purpose is to shine. Your signature is your legacy. You're born to be you not to fit in or be someone else that will make you sick. Your legacy is to shine.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:40

Dr Espen Wold Jensen, a warm welcome to the Wisdom From North Sow.

Dr. Espen 1:46

Such a pleasure to be here with everyone. Thanks so much for having me.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:50

I'm so excited to see you again. Espen, the thing is that you are Norwegian, so we've done this in Norwegian before, but you have escaped to Australia, and you're traveling all around the world, even though I would love to see you in Norway one day. You're also one of our masterclass teachers in wisdom from North membership, where you're teaching our members about how to live or have a quantum living we're going to learn more about that. And you're doing amazing work. You're a researcher within neuroscience, quantum physics. You're a business mentor. You are a Master Healer, and you have transformed 1000s of people's lives. You have these big events in Australia, and you're really helping people turn obstacles into opportunities. And today, I'm super, super excited about learning more about quantum living and also manifestation, manifestation in the fifth dimension. So now I know you've had a journey like you didn't just start doing this because you thought it was interesting. You've had a really tough, transformational story that I would love for you to share with our listeners today,

Dr. Espen 3:01

absolutely well. Thank you for having me, everybody. It's a privilege to be here coming to you live from Dubai at the moment, and really excited to be tuning in wherever you are in the world. Let's start by taking a breath in, breath out, calling myself present and you're right. Janek, my journey started in ahrenda, Arendelle, which is a tiny little city in the south of Norway, where I was born and raised. And for those watching and listening at the moment, I'd like you to just tune in, because there are obstacles that we face in our life. It could be mental, it could be emotional, it could be relationship wise, it could be financial, it could be spiritual, it could be anything in between. So I want to give you a recipe today that's going to help you turn any challenge into a high level of consciousness, any pain into power, any trauma into transformation, any pit into purpose. If you stay tuned for this interview, I guarantee you that there's going to be some things in there that'll help you transform your life. So when I was young, growing up in in an arvindal, i i found my brother passed away in his room when I was five. So I woke up in the morning, my mother was screaming, and I ran into the bedroom and found, found my brother passed away. I was five, and he was only a baby. So the trauma for me started when I was, you know, a little child, two years after my brother passed away, my sister Katinka was born disabled, so she's never had a chance to walk or run. She doesn't know what it feels like to walk or stand on her own two legs. My mom didn't know how to deal with the loss of her son, or how to raise a disabled daughter, so she would borrow the program that her parents gave her, the mental program, is what I'm talking about, which is to drink alcohol when you are going through a difficult time and we all have these vices, sometimes it's alcohol, sometimes it's Instagram. Sometimes it's pornography, sometimes it's anything in between, but we do that to feel better in the moment, and that's all she knew. So I grew up in a household where there was a lot of trauma, a lot of toxic emotion, a lot of alcoholism. Both my parents are alcoholics, and so I grew up becoming tough, mentally and physically and very, very weak emotionally. It wasn't common for us to talk about emotions. Now the quality, if you want to take a note, the quality of your life equals the quality of your emotion. Okay, so the quality of your life equals the quality of your emotion. How you feel the majority of the time becomes your perceived quality of life. I didn't know that. I had tremendous amounts of suppressed emotion, issues in the tissues, disease in the body waiting to be manifest, if I don't deal with it. So. Long story short, I came to Australia. I had a motorcycle accident. 2005 2006 I took the metal out, 14 pieces of metal they took out of my body after the surgery and and then I got a staph infection, and I almost died twice from a life threatening infection. I lost 15 kilos, and I knew that I was dying. So one day when the doctor walked into the hospital, and he looked at me and he said, Aspen, the infection is spreading. He said, in order to save your life, we have to amputate your leg. This was in 2008 and I remember thinking to myself, if he amputate, if he if he cuts off my leg, then I'll be permanently disabled, like my little sister. And then the surgeon looked at me and said, if we don't cut your leg off, he said, if we don't amputate your leg, the infection will spread, you will get sepsis, and then you will die. So of course, my greatest fear was realized in that moment, that I would either become disabled like my sister or that I would die like my brother. And in that moment, for the first time in my life, after having lived with fear in a state of complete fear for over a year, I didn't know. Will I live? Will I die? Will I lose my leg? Keep my leg? I don't know. But in that moment, something much greater than me took over. Call it spirit, call it God, call it consciousness, call it universe, call it whatever you want to call it it's irrelevant. But something much more powerful than my mind took effect and came through me and told me to go home and breathe, and I remember for the first time in a year and two months, I didn't feel fear, I didn't feel abandonment, I didn't feel alone, I didn't feel scared, I didn't feel like I wasn't good enough or that I wasn't loved. I felt peace. I felt certainty. So I thought, Okay, wow, I feel I know it wasn't a belief, it was a knowing. So I looked at the surgeon, I said, Thanks, doc. And he he left the hospital, and I ripped the intravenous out of my arms, and I had been on antibiotics for a year. If you know anything about health and healing, you know how dangerous that is. And I left the hospital, I walked home, I sat up on my bed, and I started breathing, and then I woke up after passing out, I believe, and I woke up again. I did it again and did it again and did it again, and I fought for my life with this staph infection for a year and two months. I tried everything. I did, all the surgeries, I saw, all the doctors, all the nurses, took all the drugs. And here's the key, I was looking outside of myself for answers. So if you ask the question, what is wisdom from North that's the wisdom, wisdom of your North Star, the knowing that you have, all the energy, all the wisdom, all the consciousness, all the awareness, all the answers inside of yourself if you learn to listen. And I had to almost die twice, and so I breathed every day, sometimes multiple times a day for three and a half weeks, and I had the infection for a year and two months, almost died, and in three and a half weeks, I completely healed myself. So just want to point this out. You know, if you have a motorcycle accident like I had, and you break your legs, go to the hospital. You need to go to the hospital. But we really don't have a healthcare system. We have a sick care system. So as reactive as it is, it saves lives, but it has nothing to do with health from then, just to wrap it up, I managed to start one health clinic and another one, another one, and I hired medical doctors and dentists and naturopaths and chiropractors and yoga teachers and Pilates teachers and anything in between. And I had 27 doctors under my management for across 10 clinics over many years. So I know a thing or two about health care. I know a thing or two about education, but I can tell you that the best health care is inside of you. The best the best education, knowledge, wisdom and transformation is inside of you. And I almost had to die twice to find my North Star. And now I teach people the same. They have all the answers that they need if they learn how to tap into that field of intelligence inside.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:59

Thank you so much for. Sharing your story. It touches me every time, and I feel like it's no coincidence that you went through it either, because then you wouldn't be able to do what you're doing today, really teaching people the power we have inside. And I believe you also heard a voice, didn't you? It was some kind of divine intervention here, where you heard a voice, something like, if it's going to be it's up to me,

Dr. Espen 10:26

exactly. So I'm glad you brought this up, because the question was, how can we turn any obstacle into opportunity, trauma to transformation, pain to purpose, right? And this is going to wrap it all up. You can call it spirit. Call it soul. My soul, my state of unconditional love, came through me in that moment of despair and took over my nervous system, right? So call it whatever you want. The message that came through was so clear, and you're right, my soul said to me, if it is to be it's up to me. In that moment, I realized, as I said, that I had looked to the doctors and the surgeons and the nurse nurses and hospitals and the drugs to fix me. Hey, doctor, how am I doing? Tell me, how am I healing? Am I getting better, or am I getting worse? I was asking rather than creating. I had forgotten that I had the power to choose my own outcome through my belief and through where I placed my attention. I had forgotten who I was completely and and here's the key. So I want you to consider this right? Let's give some tangible, powerful tools here. If you go to the past, let's say when I was five years old, I walk into my bedroom and I find my brother dead. You can pause this right now, and you could write down any painful event of the past. Okay, you're welcome to do this as an experiment if you want. And you stop, you write down any painful experience of the past. You know, my wife left. My husband cheated. I was bullied at school. Whatever the trauma is, you write it down, right? And then you ask yourself a question, can I change it? Can I change what happened back then? And I think most people would agree that we still can't time travel. The average person can't time travel physically anyway, so the answer is, No, I can't go back and save my brother, but I can change the meaning that I give it, and there's two ways to see any situation. One is the way of the ego, and the ego asks the question, why did that happen to me? And I asked that question Janaki for I don't know how many decades. Why did God Spirit, whatever it did, do that to me? Why did my brother die? Why is my sister disabled? Why did I have a learning difficulties? Why was I dyslexic and couldn't read and write? Well, you know, why did I crash a motorcycle? Why did I almost die twice? When you ask the question, why did that happen to me? You are a victim of what happened. So then you perpetuate this cycle of victimhood, and the ego loves it because it gives you reason excuse to suffer, which means validation, to drink alcohol, to spend time on Instagram, not to follow your purpose, whatever that might be. But the soul, instead of the ego, the soul will ask a different question. And the soul knows that it's not just here in this moment and then it's dead. The soul knows that it's eternal and it's forever, but it's having a temporary human experience in the third dimension. So the soul does not look at the trauma and go, Why did that happen to me? The soul asks the question, how did that happen for me? What was I supposed to learn? What was the gift? What was the lesson? What was the message, what was the teaching, what was the experience, right? And so if you go back and you look at what you've just written in my example, my brother passed. How did that happen for me? Well, I can tell you there are a lot of benefits. Now I wouldn't wish death on anyone, but I do choose to change my belief and my experience and my perception of it. So what are some benefits about from my brother dying? Well, I can tell you, I don't take life for granted. Every day I wake up, I put my feet on the ground. I say, thank you. I say, I love you, because my brother never got the chance to experience this gift that we call life. And then I get to teach people what it means to truly live, not survive or exist. That's another benefit. And I could list you 1000 more. And so the point is that you can be you can go from being a victim of your history to a master or your destiny, if and when you change the question, from why did that happen to me, to how's this that been happening for me? And you literally become a master of your life simply by changing the question, changing the perception and as such, and changing your life.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:35

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Dr. Espen 18:02

Good question. It begins with the decision. And the decision is, where do you want to go? Do you want to explore and grow and evolve? And by that, I mean, do you want to lean in to discomfort? Because that's what growth is. This is a growth based Universe, not a comfort based one. So if that's the case, you decide to lean in, or you can decide to stay where you are, not do anything, and just go with the flow, and it'll be beautiful, but it'll also be challenging. I think for most people, the choice is, I want to grow. I want to be healthier, I want to be more conscious. I want to experience more beauty in life. I want to I want to walk this journey of growth and development, and so that's the first thing. If you make that decision now, I'm going to stay where I am, the blue pill, or I'm going to go to that next level into the unknown, the red pill. If you choose the red pill, the decisions made from then you will start to manifest people into your reality, like this podcast interview, for example, where you will be not called out, but called up, called up to a new level of potential, called up to a new level of awareness, called up to a new level of healing, a new level of surrender, a new level of of evolution. And then the mentor will arrive in the field. It could be this amazing podcast that you're listening to and watching right now that will give you teachers from all around the world that share wisdom that might inspire you, or, you know, maybe even give you a kick in the butt. But it'll also be community, community of people that are like minded that lift you up. This is a very, very, very important you should be around people that really lift you up. If you are not around people that lift you up, you will come to terms. You'll have to come to terms with the fact that they will reduce your energy, frequency and vibration and quality of life. They will reduce your expression of life. They will reduce your health and healing and vitality. So it's no judgment, it's just the standard. It's just a fact. So it's, it's about making a con. Just choice. Yes, I want to grow and evolve. Yes, I know who I am. I'm a spirit and a soul, not just the body and the flesh. And yes, I want to, I want to be around the right kind of people and make a decision. You know, like my calendar. This is 2025 right now, my calendar for 2026 is almost complete. I know when I'm going away for silent meditation for 10 days. I know when I'm presenting in Europe and here in Dubai and in other places in the world, because I've planned for it. I know when I'm when I'm not working. I know what I'm doing, so I'm planning ahead to make sure that I go to the seminars, I work with the coaches, teachers and mentors. And I have that in my life. I consciously invest into that. And I know that if I invest in a really, really good coach or, you know, really conscious mentor, and it doesn't have to be very expensive, it could be an amazing yoga teacher or a breath work trainer or a personal development coach or mentor, you will go to a whole new level, but you must be outside of your comfort zone in a community that respects you and acknowledges you for who you are, the true essence of you, not who you're pretending to be or trying to be or they want you to be, but your own unique signature and and as you're in that community, you continue to grow, and you'll just see things will just continue to happen. But the biggest one is making a decision that you will continue to grow, to learn, to evolve and to be around the right kind of people. And it's already done, if you make that decision

Jannecke Øinæs 21:27

right, it all starts with that. And I believe there are different paths to healing. For instance, you mentioned breathing. For others, it could be something else, and maybe it could be helpful to understand sort of the mechanics of this quantum living to understand how it's more tied together, because this is something you have been studying and teaching our members about what is quantum living.

Dr. Espen 21:56

So firstly, let's just define the word quantum there's been a lot of hype around this for the last, particularly five years. Quantum stance comes from the original meaning of the word quantum physics, or quantum mechanics, which means the study of energy. And Max Planck did this beautifully 100 years ago when he provided evidence for, quote, unquote, a field of divine intelligence that exists within all things. So we know this now. It's been scientifically proven since then, it's still true today, everything is energy, everything is wave, not particle. Everything is a potential in the field, and it's not collapsing the wave function, which means it doesn't manifest in reality until you pay attention to it. Once you place your attention to it, it'll crystallize into manifestation. So that's why people don't know that they are heroes, that they are magicians, that they are God, like creators. They just walk around like I did, and say, hey, when will I heal? Will I, you know, heal tomorrow? Or what drug can I take to get better? I was creating all that. So you said it beautifully before. Yanik, it never happened to me. I was blessed to almost die twice so that I could find the power that I have. And this is why I love saying to people, I've never healed anyone, but you can heal yourself when you tap into the power of breath. So let's go. Then I want to stretch you a little bit, if you're listening, just take a moment to breathe through in, through in through your nose and into your belly. Okay, just really straighten your spine and really be with your breath for a moment. Because for me, breathing changed my life. So the first thing that happens when you're born is when you take a breath, and the last thing that happens before you leave the human experience is you take a last breath, right? So breath and spirit is the same thing. If you look up the meaning of the word to inspire, which means to breathe, the word for breath, air and spirit is the same word. So when you're born and the spirit or the soul comes into the body, whoop, okay, in its full effect, it's said that it soon as the sperm hits the egg, there's fractals of light. So we know the soul starts to come in as soon as there's conception, but I believe the soul really comes into the body when you're born. Now that's very interesting, because when you take your first breath, breath is Spirit, and spirit is breath. This is what I'm teaching to governments. This one teaching, teaching to alter our high net worth individuals and their families. This is what I'm teaching the person has never even done personal development before. You're walking around with a superpower hidden right underneath your nose, and no one has taught you how to use it, just like no one taught you about emotions, and that's where the work that we do at the quantum Academy. So in short, breath is the only thing scientifically proven to have direct effect over the autonomic nervous system. The autonomic nervous system has two primary branches, the sympathetic branch, fight or flight, the parasympathetic sympathetic branch, rest and digest. Fear, love, stress, presence, darkness, light, you get it. So these are the two parts of the nervous system now we are. Hardwired to live in a beautiful, present time conscious state, in a beautiful state 90% of the time, and about 10% of the time we're accessing the hindbrain. We're in a state of fear, and we should be getting out of danger. That's the purpose of the nervous system survival. Unfortunately, now it's flipped on his head. Most people are living in a stressful state 90% of the time, and it's different wherever you go in the world, and different families, different cultures, the more high up in corporate you get, the worse it gets, right? Which is why my work is needed, right? So when we realize that, when you understand, when you become aware of the fact that you may and may not be, but let's say, for many may be in what's called sympathetic dominance, that your nervous system is always in a state of, go, go, go, stress, rush, move. Need a coffee. Feeling a bit anxious. Need a coffee. Don't quite feel safe when you can't be in a beautiful, peaceful, present state of just non doing and just like, hey, bliss. It's so beautiful doing nothing. If you can't be in that state of surrender, you are constantly on the go, then most commonly, most likely, you're in sympathetic dominance. When you are in sympathetic dominance, you reduce your immune system, your digestive system, your reproductive system, and the list goes on and on and on, and the danger gets worse and worse the more you push and grind. So to be clear, breath is the primary trigger, the primary change, the button that turns on and off the different parts of the nervous system is your breathing. What happens when you're anxious, shallow breathing through the mouth into the chest. What happens when you're meditating, closed, eye, nose, breathing into the belly. So to give listeners and viewers a really, really powerful tool 90% of the time. Let's do it now, in through the nose. Please into the belly, out of the nose.

Dr. Espen 27:11

That's home 90% of the day you should be a nose breather. When you're driving your car. Breathe through your nose. When you're in a meeting and you're not presenting, breathe through your nose when you're reading your book, breathe through your nose when you're cooking your food, breathe through your nose. Because when you're breathing through your nose into the belly, you are turning on the parasympathetic. Okay, you're turning on the rest and digest, peace, presence system. So what people are doing on a case is they're actually breathing through their mouth when they're sleeping, when they're in meetings, when they're doing whatever. And when you breathe through your mouth, your subconscious mind goes, Okay, we're breathing through our mouth because we need to get that much oxygen in in case there's danger. So most people don't know that they can literally change their nervous system right now by changing the way we breathe. So we breathe through our nose 90% of the time, and the 10% when we breathe through the mouth is only when we do transformational breathing experiences, like what we teach and if you're exercising, and in the last 20% of your exercise when you're running, and you just need more air. But until then, I run breathing through my nose. I taped my mouth before I go to sleep, so I breathe through my nose. This, in itself, it doesn't cost you anything. In fact, I dare to say that it's going to cost you more if you don't. And I have nothing to sell here, I'm just giving you back. It's simple, but very, very powerful tool. Breath is spirit. Breath is life. You can go a long time without food, longer than you think. You can go a long time without water, longer than you think. You can't go very long without breath. Breath is the primary healing element, and when you know that, you can change it. And the journey, if you wish, can start right now by breathing through your nose.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:03

Very great, practical tool, easiest to start with, and I've heard it before, and it has actually become a small trend in Norway, taping your mouth when you sleep.

Dr. Espen 29:15

And it reshapes your entire jawline. You change the structure of your face. It's unbelievable, and it's so effective,

Jannecke Øinæs 29:23

interesting. I want to go back to that quantum living and quantum potential. Could you sort of break that down for us, the quantum potential I have listeners, so the first

Dr. Espen 29:42

thing to wrap up what we're talking about, I love this question, because quantum living means that you live in a way where you're aware that everything is energy, right? Everything is consciousness at play. Everything is unique expressions, fractals, of God, of source of universe. Expressed in its own unique form, dancing together, right? That is quantum living. And to master quantum living, you master your nervous system, because your nervous system is the master controller system of all the other systems. And the way to master your nervous system is your breath. You get it. So meditation is a tool. Exercise is a tool. Fasting is a tool. Or you use them all, but the most powerful one is right underneath your nose. Okay, so that's quantum living. Now, do you want to, do you want to specifically learn about manifestation, or do you want to learn about potential and what we can achieve?

Jannecke Øinæs 30:37

Well, I think actually they are linked together. And I'm also curious about emotions and thoughts and belief systems, how that play into the whole quantum living

Dr. Espen 30:48

I'm with you. They go hand in hand. So I want to again, stretch you and I want to expand your mind. I want to just check in with the listeners and viewers. Just give me a little nod or shake your head, whatever. Just give me a nod if you agree to keep an open mind and shake your head if you don't want to keep an open mind. So we got a little nod like this, because now we're in agreeance that we're going to expand beyond the limited five to 10% of our brain. Yeah. Okay, so there's two aspects to manifestation, and you know, we've learned about it, we've seen the secret, and we've heard about, you know, positive affirmations and so on and so forth. And they're all very useful tools, but it's an incomplete truth. And the way this works is really simple, in order to have anything in creation, in order to manifest something and like, say, let's, you know, to have a baby and make a baby, you need a sperm and an egg. That's the masculine and the feminine. Yeah. So this is the triangle, and there's the Mother, the Father, then the child, and then when the masculine feminine comes together, it creates the manifestation. When they eat out the Pingala, the masculine, the feminine meat, then we have creation. So we need the masculine. We need the feminine. Now most people don't know that thoughts are the language of the mind, and emotions are the language of the body. The thoughts of them is the masculine, and the emotions is the feminine. So if you picture a battery, you have a plus and minus, right? When you look at the Earth, it has a north pole and a south pole. You live in the north and I live in the south. And this is the Taurus field. We are a giant Taurus field, T, O, R, U, S is who we are. If you look it up, if you don't know what the Taurus field is, look it up, and you'll be studying yourself. We are more electromagnetic than we are physical. So in order to have manifestation, you won't get any power out of a battery. If it has two pluses, you with me. If you have two minuses, you get nothing. You have to have a plus and a minus, the electric and magnetic. We are electromagnetic beings. So the electric is the thought. And let's say that you want to manifest healing. Okay, I have a body that's, you know, I'm dealing with some stuff, and I want to manifest healing. So you say my body is healed, my body is healed. My body is healed. If you're saying that to yourself, that's the thought, okay, that's the intention, that's the seed, like the sperm and the egg, very important, that's what creates the first point of awareness and manifestation. But then the biggest problem is, most people cannot match the thought or the intention with the appropriate sustained emotion. So the emotion is the magnetic, it's the feminine, it's the egg that in which the sperm enters and meets. So the thought is, I have a healthy body, but the feeling is, I don't love my body, right? I don't respect my body. I don't trust my body. I'm really not in touch with my body. That's the feeling. Most people don't know that, though, because it's subconscious. Yeah, and the unconscious mind is the body. It's the same thing. So then the thought is, I am healed. But then the emotion is, I don't think I can heal. I don't feel connected. And so now what the HeartMath Institute found is that the emotion, the magnetic, the feminine, is 5000 times more powerful than the electric signal, so that the magnetic aspect of the heart is so much more powerful than the brain, 5000 times. And so what does this mean to us? It means to us that we've been taught how to manifest with only one polarity. I want a million dollars. I want a million dollars. I want a million dollars. Oh, but I feel fear around finances. But I want a million dollars. Unless you can raise the feeling, the emotion, the energy in motion should be in motion. Energy in motion. It's not in motion. It's stuck. It's in the body. It's an issue in the tissue. Unless you can remove that, unless you can raise that to a point where the thought, which is a higher vibration, the intention, you know, I'm healed. Unless you can raise the emotion to match the intention, you don't have manifestation. So we were taught a half truth, and so the. Question is, how do I manifest? How do I become healthy? How do I become wealthy? And the answer to that is, for most people, most people can do the manifestation by setting the intention, but they can't sustain it because they haven't elevated the emotion. So what we teach at the academy is how to heal emotions, trapped emotions in the body. And again, as we started this interview with the quality of my life equals the quality of my emotion. When you can raise the emotion by getting into the body and the unconscious mind, go from fear to fuel, from guilt to gratitude, from shame to self worth, from from grief to to love, then you will feel that. And then when you feel it, you can heal it, and when you manifest it, you can stain it, sustain it. So that's the key to it, to manifestation. Thoughts, masculine emotions, feminine. Together, they make manifestation. Together, they make quality of life. Someone taught you about thoughts. No one's taught us about emotions, and that's why that is so important. I hope that makes sense.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:02

It makes a lot of sense. And I actually interviewed Gabrielle Bernstein, who I feel is sort of a manifestation queen, very good in this area. She's talking a lot about manifestation, and she just came out with a book about healing, and she also talked about how they are so linked to manifestation and healing, and you also say we don't manifest what we want. Could you go into that

Dr. Espen 36:31

absolutely, if every person that came to me for help, for coaching or consulting, or whatever it is, if they manifested what they wanted, they would have never come to me. If you manifested what you wanted, you would have had the perfect body, the perfect husband or wife, all the money and all the fame and whatever else that you wanted to manifest. You don't manifest what you want. You manifest what you are vibrationally. This was the one of the last things that the late great Dr Wayne Dyer said before he moved on. He said, You don't manifest what we want. We manifest what we are vibrationally. And I like to add, we manifest what we are able to become and sustain vibrationally. And so again, what is the law of manifestation? What does it really mean? It means a coherent synergy between coherent thoughts and coherent emotions. And that is literally the formula that I gave you before. So you don't manifest what you want, you manifest what you're able to become and sustain a vibrationally. How do you increase energy, frequency and vibration? There's many ways to do that, but you know, that's why people like us exist. That's why these kind of interviews and podcasts exists. Because our spirit, our soul, is already at an extremely high resonance field. Our signature is phenomenal. We are pure light, untapped, innate potential. The lower frequency is the body, the trauma, the karma. They're just imprints into the body that we haven't resolved and healed just yet. We have the power to overcome that at any point in time. This is why it's important to call upon the wisdom of the soul as we do this kind of work, because the power of the soul will overcome the power of here at any time.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:09

Now, what about the paradox that, okay, we need to heal, but perhaps we focus so much on healing that we are just healing and healing and healing always digging deep and never being able to sort of do the light work, the positive thinking, the visualization, we sort of get stuck in that healing cycle. Oh, I'm not healed yet, because there's all it seems like there's always something to heal.

Dr. Espen 38:40

Yeah, right. I mean, I couldn't agree more. It feels to me often when people come, you know, to our work and do this kind of stuff that they all, they always say, you know, I've done a fair bit of personal development, but it wasn't until, like I tapped into this and experienced this quantum thing that I really started to feel the connection I think a lot of people have in healing. If you listen back to what you said, it's almost like people are saying, I'm not healed yet, right? That's one, and that's why they're not healed yet, right? And then you can also say, Well, I'm fully healed right now. Oh, yeah, I'm fully healed. It's done. Everything's done right now. Oh, it's not, still not happening. Why? Because you weren't able to increase the energy frequency of vibration high enough for that to become sustainable in your field, this is why breath work comes in. We can see people heal in 15 years. What you know, they've been trying to heal for 15 years. It happens like that because of their breath, not always, but very commonly. So the first thing is subconsciously, which means they're not aware of it. Most people don't quite know if it's possible, because they've got 20, 3040, 5060, however, many years of conditioning to look outside of themselves for answers, to ask for permission, to minimize themselves, and so on and so forth. And maybe they've gone to the doctor, and the doctor said, No, you. Up, you're sick, and then they go, Ah, I knew it. And 10 years later, they're on the healing journey, and they're trying to find something outside of themselves, but they don't know that healing is already within. So I think the answer is innate within the question in itself, which might be, what do you really? Really, really believe? Do you really believe that you can fully heal. Why you looking outside of yourself for a modality to heal you when you are the doctor that you've been waiting for and you know, look at it this way, if you get a cut, it'll heal. If you break a bone, the doctor can put it together, yeah, but only you can heal. No one can do healing for you. No one's ever healed you that might have influenced you with a higher vibration that stimulated growth and development. Healing, yes, but no one can heal you. You are the healer that's important. You heal that bone. So I mean, it really comes down to the subconscious belief, which normally, as you might know, stems from the first seven years of life called the imprint period, whatever we were led to believe in the first seven years, the program is still in us today.

Jannecke Øinæs 41:05

Yes, because I get curious, how did you change your belief? Because beliefs can be really stuck, and they might be there and we might not even know they're there.

Dr. Espen 41:16

So excellent question. The first thing is, so the four stages of competency, right? The first stage is unconscious and competent. I don't even know that. I don't even know that's where 98% of people are. I don't know what I believe about money. Oh, but I do. No, no, you don't trust me. I've done this with 10s of 1000s of people. 95% of people will raise their hand and say, my my money program. What I used to experience when my parents talked about money when I was a kid, that was stress based, that was fear based. It wasn't celebration and peace and security. It was money is challenging. It's scary. Far out. I didn't know that that was my belief. Do I still have fear around money today when I open that bank on my phone? Do I feel peace, love, safety, security and gratitude and excitement, or do I feel, oh, okay, well, I'll have enough, but oh, it's not quite safe. What's the feeling? Right? That in itself, most people don't know that. I think they know, but they don't. So the first step is unconscious incompetence. You didn't ever know that. You didn't even know second stage is now you're conscious about the fact that you're incompetent. So now you know that you the the program is fear based money program, Okay, second stage, I'm now consciously incompetent, but I know I've gone from unconscious to conscious, from darkness to light, from not being aware to being aware. Now I'm aware. Now I'm aware of the fact that I have a money program, okay, poverty program. Well, wow. Now the journey can begin. So once we've identified the belief, and again, how do we do it, once you've identified the belief, and we do this through closed eye processes, right? So we get our students to close their eyes, and we sit and we breathe, we open we connect to the soul in our mind. We pull the mind out of the body, so we come up to two meters above and we observe ourselves sitting in the chair. Okay? Now we're outside of the body with expanded awareness, yet still present within the sensory system. And then we journey back in time two meters above, and we stay two meters above, and we see ourselves in the house we grew up. And we see ourselves observing the conversation our parents are having around money. Wow. It's fear based. Okay, good. I now know that I know. Okay. And then we bring them back across the timeline and back into the body, 321, open your eyes, and they write it down. Okay. Why did I identify? Identify that I have a fear based program around money. Okay, good. Now I know again, stage two, yeah. From that point, once you're aware, you decide what you want the belief to be, not me, not anyone else, you decide. And of course, you know our students will say, I don't want it to be fear. I don't need to live in fear around money, because I will have enough to feed my children. I got a roof over my head. I got food in my belly. I've got everything I need. I don't need to live in fear, and I don't want to impart this fear onto my children. I do not want my children to grow up the way I grew up around money, because money is not even real and will always have enough to eat. So I don't need them to be afraid and live in fear and survival around money. I'm not. I'm not passing that on. It ran in the family until it ran into me, right and then people sit up and they go, Wow, I get it. I'm changing it right now. And then you go to the third stage of competence from the second one, which is now consciously you're incompetent, but now you go from consciously incompetent to consciously competent, I now know that. I know but I'm changing the belief right now in this moment. And the belief is I decide in this moment that I'm not going to live in fear around money ever again. And then we do a rewiring process where we where we journal out what we've felt and what we've. Experienced and where it is in the body, and we shake it out, and we stand up and we move, and we breathe, and we do yoga and Qigong and and we dance, and we really, somatically, get into the body, because this is where psychologists will do a great job on the mental aspect. But 95% of our healing is subconscious, aka in the body. So unless your psychologist, your coach, your teacher, your mentor, gets you in the body and gets the somatic and get the get it moving, you're really just scratching the surface. So then we get them moving, and now we're consciously competent, right? And we keep on moving, and then we go into the manifestation practice. Now we need to rewire the nervous system, from money is scary to I have more than I need, and then we have gratitude. We have breath work, we have meditations, we have online coaching programs for months and months that will rewire the nervous system, and then eventually, as you continue to rewire over and over and over and eventually get to the fourth stage, which is unconsciously competent. I don't need to think about being abundant, because Abundance is my signature. I don't need to think about manifesting, because I am so grateful and I have so much. Every time I look at my bank account, it's like, oh my gosh. Look, Jannecke, look how much I have. I can eat organic every day. Jannecke, look, oh my lord, and it becomes this field. You might feel it when I speak of this. It becomes this living, breathing field of joy and abundance and gratitude, and that's the signature. And now they're in unconscious competence. They don't need to think about it, because it becomes a part of who they are. Now that journey from stage three to four, it can take years, but we can do that in three days, not the entire process, but we can start that process in three days. And for me, I started this for 20 years. Our students are having bigger breakthroughs in three days than I had with patients working with them for years, because we've been able to get into the body and change it on an energetic and subconscious level.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:03

So the good news is, and I just have to, you know, underline this, that it is possible to change your beliefs

Dr. Espen 47:12

100% what you believe you will achieve if you decide in this moment that you are going to do what I decided like they ran in the family or to ran into me, I'm going to end this for my bloodline, whatever the poverty program was that was passed on from my mom to her mom and so on and so forth. You know what? It's already done. Make decision. Remember who you are. It's already done. There's no ifs or buts. It's done. If you decide now it's done, and then the work continues, but it's already done. Yeah?

Jannecke Øinæs 47:41

I mean, I can really feel that you believe that you have all this power inside, and that we are powerful beings. And I think many of us could feel like, Can I move into that kind of greatness? I mean, who am I to think that I'm God, like being Isn't that too much? Don't I take up too much space? What would you say to them? People are humble. Jandeloven in Scandinavia,

Dr. Espen 48:10

In Norway, the tall poppy complex, or syndrome, as we say in Australia. I want to point something out. I am but a humble messenger. I am not God. I am a man that makes I am really good at one thing, and that's making mistakes. Okay? I'm really good at stuffing up and and landing flat on my face. I'm really good at being imperfect. I'm really degraded at actually. And I've made so many mistakes, and I've stuffed up so many times, and I have found humility within my power. What this means is that I'm not pretending to be anyone great or, oh my gosh, I know who the boss is, universe, spirit, consciousness, creator. I know where power is. I'm a simple vessel. I'm a channel. I'm a messenger. That's it. But within that comes my greatness. Within that comes my connection to Source. I don't need to pour out from my solar plexus. I'm connected to the field. So I want to point out that I'm I'm not putting myself on the pedestal or a pit. I'm in the heart, and I bring everybody home to the heart, so young deloven and the talk poppy syndrome is real. We've been conditioned to be belittled. We've been conditioned to think, Oh, don't talk highly about yourself. You might come across cocky. Imagine that. Imagine that, that little child, the young you, the four year old girl, a four year old boy that was just like, I'm in love with life. Life is amazing. I am awesome. And if someone comes along because of their conditioned belief and they said, shut up, don't talk like that. Oh, who are you to say that you're incredible? And we believed it. We bought the belief, we borrowed the program, and then we find ourselves shrinking. You know, as I say, two flowers, right? Two flowers, one flower just blooms and the other one just blooms, and one looks at the other and go, Wow, look how you shine. You're so beautiful, the way you shine, and the other one goes, you shine. Our purpose is to shine, right? That's what our gift is. We're grounded, but we're reaching for the light because we remember who we are as humans. We go, Oh, look how beautiful she is. Oh, I can't do that. I should shrink. And honestly, I'll say this, I think that's disrespectful. So dishonoring. And I'm not pointing fingers at you because you did something wrong. I'm pointing out a pattern in the program and belief that's disrespectful to creator, to God, to source, that's disrespectful to you and your uniqueness. You're born to shine. People pay me $200,000 to help them find their legacy. And I said, look in the mirror. You're sick. Signature is your legacy. You're born to be you, not to fit in or be someone else that'll make you sick. Your legacy is to shine, shine like that, in love and unapologetically you. Life will be amazing. That's the purpose to shine. And I hope this puts a skip in your step, because, God, I lived for a long time in the shadow trying to fit in and find validation by looking for other people's opinions.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:00

Yeah, I think a lot of us did that, until I discovered self love, which was a new concept for me. And when I discovered it, I was like, I don't have that thing, and I need to get that and now I'm writing a book about it. Yeah. And you know what

Dr. Espen 52:20

I love this, thank you. And you know what like it will come up like what I said. You felt it. I know you felt it. You felt it in in your soul. You felt that in your core, you you know that you're beautiful. And if you walk out the door and you say, life is amazing and I am incredible, and someone looks at you and go, don't worry, that's their program, Love and blessings, brother, Love and blessings, mate, not my program, right? And I don't go, look at me how cool I am. I go, I'm in love with me today. Because, you know what, if I don't love me, who's gonna love me if I want to respect me, if I don't have fun with me, if I don't speak highly about me, how can I expect everything else, which is the reflection, a projection, a mirror of me, to do the same? You don't have to go without when you go within, it's an inside job. So thank you for speaking to it and listeners and viewers, you will be triggered when you step into authenticity, when you step into vulnerability, when you step into shining your light and speaking your truth unapologetically. There will be people looking at you going, Oh, you're cocky. Or how dare you be so confident? How dare you not be who you are? That's your gift. No one can do that. You can do that. So it's a rewiring process. Jannecke, thank you for writing this book. I can't wait. Please send me a copy. I'd love to read it. The world needs it, and it's it's a beautiful breath of fresh air.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:47

Yeah, and thank you also for speaking to it and being a living example of it, because we need pioneers to speak about it, and it just resonates in every single cell. And I think for listeners and everybody watching, we feel that truth. I mean, it's true, but it's so hard, but it's also a choice. When you said that other person's like, Who do you think you are to blah, blah, blah, it is a choice to take it in, and that's where consciousness comes in. No, I won't allow them their perception of me, dim my light. It stops there. But it's a conscious work, a conscious, conscious work, like you said, it needs to be sustainable. So this work is an ongoing thing. And you know, in many ways, we grow up, we learn a bunch of stuff, and then we become adults, and we get to unlearn a lot of what we learned. That's where it starts.

Dr. Espen 54:49

Lifelong Learner, baby,

Jannecke Øinæs 54:52

yes, well, Espen, this has been a thrill, and I have a few questions I ask all my guests. And the first question. Question is actually what we've been speaking about today. So I'll ask you directly, what is self love to you

Dr. Espen 55:08

coming home, remembering

Jannecke Øinæs 55:17

powerful and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective. Espen,

Dr. Espen 55:27

love, pure love, connecting with spirit, being in the moment, recognizing yourself in everything and everyone all the time. Love, true love,

Jannecke Øinæs 55:40

so beautiful. Now I bet many, many are curious to learn more about you and your work. How can they work with you? How can they find you? Point us in some directions.

Dr. Espen 55:56

Thank you. You already are, you know, we're already in the field. We're already connected. We're already entangled in the quantum field. To learn more, you can go to Dr espen.com D, R, E, S, P N, for Norway, norway.com Drespen.com go to Dr Espen. Dr_E S P E N on Instagram, send me a message. Reach out, ask if you have any questions, and remember you at this point in time, if you're listening and watching, you called in Yanaka and myself and wisdom of north at this time, because your soul is ready for this message, you may choose to share this message with people that need to hear this message and as such as subject and spread love and wisdom. And this is a reflection, a mirror of what you're ready to hear and feel and see and learn and evolve into so watch this. Watch this again. Pause it. Take notes. Do the experiences I share with as many people as you can reach out to me on my website, Instagram, follow. I share a lot of stuff like this for free on Instagram all the time. And just ask if you have any questions, just remember who you are. I showed up in your field because you're ready for the message. The question is, what does this mean to you? What are you going to do about it?

Jannecke Øinæs 57:08

Gosh, I'm so grateful for this conversation. Espen, I think many are. Thank you so much for coming back on the show and doing your amazing work. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Dr. Espen 57:18

I love you guys. Thank you so much, so So proud of you, so proud of you, so grateful for the work that you don't thank you for being this channel of this message, because it's truly impacted. Not only I can feel this in myself, but just so many people. I'm really, really grateful that you're doing what you're doing, and can't wait to catch up in person. See you next time I come in Norway. Thank you guys.