Darryl Anka has channeled Bashar, an extraterrestrial being existing in a parallel reality, for over 42 years. In this conversation, recorded shortly after a new batch of UAP files was released by the US government, he shares what Bashar says is actually unfolding behind the headlines, and why 2027 may be a genuine turning point.

Disclosure Is Already Happening

According to Darryl, what we are witnessing right now is not a sudden event but a carefully paced unfolding. Whistleblowers and military personnel testifying publicly without fear of ridicule is, in itself, a massive shift. Full disclosure, he explains, will come in phases: first, the revelation of extraterrestrial hybrids already living and working among us undetected, then eventually the introduction of pure extraterrestrials like the Pleiadians, all at a pace humanity can genuinely absorb.

Crucially, Darryl is clear that this is not something being done to us. The extraterrestrial side has its own agency in this process, and the timing is a matter of choice and readiness on both sides.

What Are the Hybrids, Really?

Darryl describes hybrids as beings created from extraterrestrial and human genetics, close enough to us that they can move through human society undetected, yet carrying a subtly different energy that some people may have sensed without understanding what they were seeing. They have likely been working alongside scientists and officials behind the scenes for some time, contributing to advances we have not yet been told the full story behind.

Death May Become Irrelevant

One of the most striking claims in this episode is Bashar’s assertion that as humanity’s frequency rises through exposure to extraterrestrial contact, our capacity to communicate with those who have crossed over will expand dramatically. The implication is profound: if we can still see, hear, and communicate with someone after they die, the entire concept of death as an ending begins to dissolve.

The Secret Behind the Secret of the Law of Attraction

Darryl offers a refinement of the law of attraction that goes beyond what most popular teachings cover. We do not need to learn how to vibrate at the frequency of what we want, he explains. Our natural soul frequency is already perfectly calibrated to attract everything we need. The real work is removing the negative, fear-based beliefs that block that frequency from functioning. It is not about learning to attract. It is about getting out of your own way.

Why You Always Choose What You Believe Serves You

Darryl breaks down what he calls the motivational mechanism behind every choice we make, including ones that clearly don’t serve us. The principle is simple but uncomfortable: we always move toward what we believe benefits us and away from what we believe harms us, without exception. If you are consistently choosing something that isn’t good for you, it means you hold a belief, often unconscious, that the alternative would somehow be worse. Identifying and questioning that belief is the actual work of transformation.

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Transcript of the interview

Darryl Anka 0:00

What we're seeing now is the beginning of disclosure, where it's now taken relatively seriously as a subject. Eventually, think it's the acceptance by the public chips being shown to us on purpose by ETs to allow us to take photographs more clearly, so that people can get used to the idea that this is real, this is happening, this is part of our reality now. And then eventually we will be literally physically introduced to a lot of the extraterrestrials that have been working with some people on earth behind the scenes to help humanity evolve to improve our technology, so on and so forth. The first phase of it would be the revelation of the extraterrestrial hybrids that actually have been living and working among us, and we'll be able to openly interact with them in some timeframe. We can handle would be the introduction of the pure extraterrestrials, Pleiadians, and so on and so forth over whatever period of time we are able to sort of handle. Now, that doesn't mean I think everyone will necessarily react positively to this. I think there will be a number of different reactions in open contact, or after open contact, by being exposed to the higher frequency of the extraterrestrials. Not only will humanity over time be exhibiting more of the traits of extraterrestrials, like telepathy, like psychic functioning, but we'll also upgrade our frequency over time to the point where we can actually more easily communicate with spirit, so the whole idea of death will be irrelevant, because when somebody crosses over back into spirit and you can still communicate with them and see them and hear them.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:36

Wow, in our lifetime, you think I.. Hey, I have a favor to ask you, if you appreciate these conversations, then thank you so much for subscribing to my channel. Darryl Anka, welcome back to the Wisdom From North show. How are you?

Darryl Anka 1:56

I'm good, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:00

It's so lovely seeing you again. We just met in Sedona, and I got the chance to see you channel Bashar for the first time in my life, and it was epic. And now I'm going to meet you again in San Diego at the San Diego Ascension Retreat. It's happening in September, you're doing your own talk, I'm doing my talk, and I'm truly looking forward to it. And for everyone who wants to join us, I'll drop a link below. However, Daryl, this is your first time on the show, and my audience seemed to really resonate with Bashar's teachings, and so do I. And especially so many Scandinavian Norwegians are like, oh, I go into interview Daryl again. However, I'm going to introduce you. For those who might not know your work, you are a world famous channeler of the extraterrestrial, physical extraterrestrial called Bashar, who exists in a parallel reality, and you've been doing so for more than 40 years, and Bashar brings this multi-dimensional guidance and explains in detail how the universe works. However, not everyone might know that you are an award-winning screenplayer, a director, producer, you have your own film company, and you've been writing over 20 books, and I'm struggling with my one book that hasn't come out yet. So, well,

Darryl Anka 3:25

to be fair, the 20 books, a lot of them are simply made from transcripts of what Bashar has talked about, so it's not like I'm sitting down and writing them. It's recorded, it's made into transcripts, and those transcripts are turned into books by other companies.

Jannecke Øinæs 3:43

Anywho, you deserve the compliments. I feel like, well, Darryl, we're finding ourselves in interesting times, and as we're recording this, we just saw the second batch coming out from the US government of the UFO files, the UAP files, and I'm very curious, and I think my audience is curious too, about your thoughts about it. And on your website, you have a video where Bashar is saying, you know, everything will change in 2027 and that open contact is imminent. So then I'm curious, so what we're seeing now, what will be different in 2027 from what we're seeing now?

Darryl Anka 4:25

Well, my understanding is that we're talking about, mean, see, what we're seeing now is the beginning of disclosure, where it's now taken relatively seriously as a subject that people are, you know, government congress is having sessions with whistleblowers with military people for the first time to allow them to tell people publicly what they've seen, what they've been involved in, without fear of losing their careers, without fear of being ridiculed. So just the fact that this is now being taken seriously. Obviously, is a huge sign that we're getting closer and closer to the idea of people releasing all the information that they have eventually about what's going on with UFOs and our involvement with ETs, and so on and so forth, that's been going on for quite some time. Full disclosure would be the release of any and all information that isn't really considered a national security threat or anything involving all of that, and eventually, you know, I think it's the acceptance by the public based on new photographs of UFOs and things like that, that are clearer and clearer and clearer, being ships being shown to us on purpose by ETs to allow us to take photographs more clearly, so that people can get used to the idea that this is real, this is happening, this is part of our reality. Now, and then eventually we will be literally physically introduced to a lot of the extraterrestrials that have been working with some people on earth behind the scenes to help humanity evolve to improve our technology, so on and so forth, because my understanding is that's been going on for quite some time. It's just not public knowledge that it's been going on. So, full disclosure would include the idea of the release of public knowledge of the fact that ETS have been helping us behind the scenes in a number of ways for for decades,

Jannecke Øinæs 6:30

and do you think the governments will come out with that, that fact in 2027 or will it sort of be the people coming forward, and

Darryl Anka 6:39

well, it'll be both, it'll be, it'll be both, you know, private in a sense, investigative things, but also governmental, like, in other words, official public announcements, official press conferences, official, you know, sort of almost like a state of the union address, and with, along with evidence, and I think my understanding is that the first phase of it would be the revelation of the extraterrestrial hybrids that actually have been living and working among us, who are not detectable as extraterrestrials, they will be told, we will be told who they are, and we'll be able to openly interact with them, and then eventually, following that, in some timeframe, we can handle would be the introduction of the pure extraterrestrials, Pleiadians, and so on and so forth, and then other species as everything unfolds over whatever period of time, whatever pace we are able to sort of handle. Now, that doesn't mean I think everyone will necessarily react positively to this. I think there will be a number of different reactions. I'm actually writing a book about that, called Full Disclosure, as a speculation of all the different possible reactions that might happen as a kind of preparation, so people can kind of get a handle and a heads up on how different people, different groups might react to the knowledge of the ET presence. So working on that right now, but I do think it will be a lot of it will be official release of the information, because it's really way past time for that to happen, and again, you know, we tend to forget or not think about the fact that a lot of this is sort of handled and governed and controlled by the ET side too, it's not just the human side, the ETS can also decide it's now time, and there's really kind of nothing you can do to stop us from revealing ourselves at this point again. They'll do it at a pace we can handle, they're not going to force anything on anyone, but we're going to be given the option to understand that this is now another choice that humanity can take advantage of, is to interact with extraterrestrials who can help us evolve more quickly, so it won't be forced, but it will be a choice.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:13

I mean, I'm getting goosebumps, because I've had this channel ever since 2012 where I think there was a big shift, and we've been talking about it, talking about it, talking about it, and I'm sitting here in May, and it's happening like we're not ridiculed anymore, and that's the huge step, just there. I mean, I want to say hooray for just that.

Darryl Anka 9:34

Yeah, well, that's what I mean. The fact that that's happening is a massive change in our approach to this subject, and that's a really strong and positive sign that disclosure, full disclosure, is really about to happen, is in progress, is happening. We're in the early stages of it, you know. And look at, look at programs, you know, like Skinwalker Ranch, and things like that, that are scientific. Basically, starting to discover things like portals and other kinds of advanced technologies that are popping up on the ranch that indicate the presence, perhaps, of extraterrestrial technology in the past, so you know there are different things converging kind of at the same time, almost on a scheduled release from different sources of different kinds of information, all of which can come together to create a definitive statement of look, folks, here's all the evidence. Here we are actually involved with extraterrestrials and have been for some time.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:39

And then I get curious about these hybrids, and I was going to ask you about it. Um, how do they look like for that person out there who's like, what is a hybrid? I don't understand. Could you explain what hybrids are, and sort of have, have you met one? Have have we met them, but we don't know that

Darryl Anka 10:58

you may have crossed paths, you may have seen them glimpse them now, and then, but remember, they have the capacity to sort of turn you away and make you kind of forget that you saw, you know, you might say, well, you know, I, I saw this person walking down the street, and there was just something really different and odd about them, I can't quite place it, you know, they just didn't, it felt like they just didn't belong here or something, but then you just kind of like, oh, but Mo, I remember now, I have to go do this thing, so they have the way telepathically of turning you away from recognizing them, but they look very much like us. A hybrid is basically an extraterrestrial being that has been created with extraterrestrial and human genetics, so they look enough like us that they can mingle among us, but they also give off an energy that we might find unusual or different. And these are beings that are not born on this planet, they are brought here and mingle in society in a number of different ways, and work with certain scientists and certain officials on certain kinds of projects to help humanity forward, but all behind the scenes. So, as I said, the first step, as I understand it, in open contact and full disclosure, is for the public to be told who these hybrids are, where they are, what they've been doing, and then from that point forward we can actually start interacting with them openly,

Jannecke Øinæs 12:27

and I get very curious, how an interaction would be like if the two of us in San Diego would meet up and all of a sudden in a few years we would meet a hybrid. How would that be like? Would they be eating like us, you know, hugging like us? Would they?

Darryl Anka 12:46

Well, yes, I mean,

Jannecke Øinæs 12:48

like,

Darryl Anka 12:48

yeah, because they are hybrids, they, they can interact with humans in very much a human way. It's the pure extraterrestrials that'll be a little bit different, we won't necessarily interact with them in the same way we interact with each other or with the hybrids, but hybrids have enough human DNA that they can interact with us in a human way. For the most part, now it's possible that their diets are different, and you know, their energy is different, they're telepathic, and all this kind of stuff, so there are differences about them, but that's not necessarily obvious on the surface.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:28

Interesting, and I've heard you talk about that humans are being upgraded in order to be able to meet extraterrestrials, because meeting them today would be too much to our system, is that correct?

Darryl Anka 13:44

Yeah, for many individuals, a lot of the extraterrestrials that are involved with Earth operate on a very high frequency. They're extremely evolved, their energy is quite, can be quite overwhelming. Now, they can mitigate that to some degree, they can create kind of a buffer, so that we don't necessarily get overwhelmed by the frequency of energy that they're giving off, but yeah, the whole idea of what Bashar has been doing for 42 years is sharing information that if people are willing to adopt it into their lives and use it does actually upgrade our frequency to make us more vibrationally compatible with the extraterrestrials that will eventually be interacting with us, so there are a number of different directions from which this is happening, but humanity in general is evolving, and we have arrived at a time and a place now where you know open contact with ETS is relatively imminent and inevitable,

Jannecke Øinæs 14:43

and is that, for instance, like solar flares, and these codes coming from nothing to do

Darryl Anka 14:49

with that, no, nothing, a lot of that is, is a lot of that is mythological, a lot of that is missing,

Jannecke Øinæs 14:55

really,

Darryl Anka 14:56

yeah, there are some things about it that may be true. But a lot of it is being blown way out into kind of a fantasy idea or a misunderstanding or a misinterpretation of what that means, so Bashar doesn't really deal with a lot of that, I don't deal with a lot of that, because it's just kind of more misleading than anything, and it's it involves things about understanding dimensionality that that we just don't have language for at this particular point, but a lot of it is not really literal,

Jannecke Øinæs 15:31

so we're being upgraded in that sense that our awareness, or we could hold that knowledge in our awareness, and thus we're expanding our consciousness in a way,

Darryl Anka 15:41

exactly. I mean, that's why you know we're having more and more of these conferences about the expansion of spirituality and consciousness. It's, it's a result of the expansion of our consciousness and the acceleration and uplifting of our frequency, so exposure ultimately in open contact or after open contact by being exposed to the higher frequency of the extraterrestrials, not only will humanity over time be exhibiting more of the traits of extraterrestrials, like telepathy, like psychic functioning, but will also upgrade our frequency over time to the point where we can actually more easily communicate with spirits, so the whole idea of death will be irrelevant, because when somebody crosses over back into spirit, and you can still communicate with them, and see them, and hear them, because your frequency allows you to do that and expands your senses. Then the whole concept of death really will completely alter, you know, completely change. Wow.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:48

In our lifetime, you think.

Darryl Anka 16:52

I think over the course of the next couple of decades, a lot more people, especially those being born into a time when extraterrestrials are among us will have those capacities, you know. It may still take a while over a long span of time for most humans to experience something like that. It doesn't necessarily mean that the older generations that exist now will necessarily go that far, but the younger generations probably will.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:23

That's amazing. And then I get curious, because your connection with Bashar is interesting. I understand that he's a parallel version of you. And then I get, or yeah, again,

Darryl Anka 17:36

it's like these are convenient labels that help people understand, you know, or give them some basis for understanding the energetic connection between us. I mean, you know, we're two separate beings. We have our own realities. We've made a connection. This was an agreement made before this incarnation, you know. And there are a number of different ways to relate to them. Yes, they're in a parallel reality. Some people refer to him as a future self of mine, or, you know, my soul in a different future incarnation, or, or that we're just, you know, counterparts with each other. There are any number of ways to define the relationship, but basically, it's just, you know, I am myself. He is himself. This is a telepathic connection that I've been trained to align with his vibration, so that I can act as a translation device, so to speak, for his thoughts, because I'm getting onto the same wavelength, or something more similar to him, and he changes his frequency to become something more similar to mine, and then, like two tuning forks, we kind of lock in the middle, and therefore we share the same thoughts, and that's what allows me and any channeling person or any mediumistic person to then translate those thoughts and ideas into our language, because we're operating on a similar wavelength.

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Darryl Anka 20:23

possibly eventually. He will not be the first. His civilization will not be the first that we'll encounter. We will encounter other hybrids, like I said first, and other extraterrestrials first. There's, there's kind of a pattern that's been laid out to that in terms of what we can absorb more easily, so yes, I mean, I've seen him in dream encounters and things like that, that I know are not normal dreams, so yes, eventually there may be a possibility of physical contact with him, but that's not really what I focus on, I know it'll unfold in the way that it needs to unfold, so yeah, maybe eventually.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:03

And speaking of dreams, I've always been curious about it since I've been out of my body a couple of times, and flying around in the astral.

Darryl Anka 21:12

Right?

Jannecke Øinæs 21:13

What, from what you understand, I've learned from Bashar, what is that dream state? And I assume that we're talking about different dimensions where we can connect them with extraterrestrials, like, like you did yourself. So, yeah, where do we go when we dream?

Darryl Anka 21:30

Well, again, dreams can be many different things. Dreams can just be that you're processing daily events, but dreams can also be memories of astral travels and interpretations of those experiences and other dimensions, as best as your physical mind has the ability to interpret that, and that's sometimes why dreams may seem so disconnected and unusual, is you know, our physical brains only have so many symbols to represent our experiences in physical reality, and it has to use a lot of those symbols to create an interpretation of what might have actually been an experience you had out of body in the astral realm. So dreams can be many different things. It just depends on what type of dream you're having and whether it's something that your brain is just processing, whether you're connecting to your soul path and your blueprint for this life, and working some things out on that level, and then bringing that information back to this level as a dream, whether it's communication from your guides that you could be having that will be interpreted as a dream, whether it's a memory from an astral experience, you're having it can be many different things. It just depends on the dream.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:46

So, when I'm out of my body, am I sort of flying out of the matrix? Do you think that we are in a matrix? And I'm curious, whether, if you do, who created the matrix? We did.

Darryl Anka 23:00

We did this. Is by our agreement. Yeah, it's you can call it a matrix, you can call it a simulation, but it's our simulation. It's not being done to us. We're doing this by agreement. And yes, there may be many other beings involved in sustaining that simulation or that matrix. And I really don't prefer those terms. I just prefer if this is a projection of our consciousness, this is our souls agreeing that we will have a certain kind of an experience that we call physical reality, and we are all making this experience happen by our agreement, but it's all happening within our consciousness. So, yes, it's a simulation, yes, it's a matrix, but it's ours

Jannecke Øinæs 23:42

and are the extraterrestrials, then outside that simulation in a way.

Darryl Anka 23:47

No, not if we perceive them. They have agreed to be part of what we are perceiving, so we are all capable of being quote unquote outside of that simulation, because we are all souls, we're all spirits, so but we agree that if we're interacting in what we perceive to be a physical reality, that we're all agreeing to sustain and maintain that particular projection of consciousness that we're referring to as a matrix or a simulation, it's a space in which we're interacting, it's, it's no less spiritual than spirit, it's just a different way of experiencing it that allows us to discover new things, it allows us to have new experiences, because you know, in spirit, you know everything, you're connected to everything, there's no, in a sense, there's no change, there's no growth. You can learn a lot, you can have ultimate knowledge, but knowledge is not the same thing as experiencing that knowledge. So, creating the idea and the experience that we call physical reality allows us to deepen that knowledge by adding another dimension. To it, the dimension of experience, the dimension of physical reality is the dimension of the experience of the knowledge that you can access, that you can connect to, because it's very different, you know, you can, you can read in a book everything there is to know about, let's say, constructing a house, but the actual physical experience of building a house is very different from reading a book about it. You have muscle experiences, you have, you know, bodily experiences, you have space and time experiences that that create a three dimensional and fourth dimensional volume to that knowledge, and it's something that then you can hone in on and refine within yourself. Now you really have the full knowledge of what it means to construct a house, because you've physically done it, and that's that's it. Adds a whole new appreciation to whatever knowledge you may have gained by reading a book about constructing a house.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:00

And has Bashar told you anything about multiverses, that's where it just stops in my mind.

Darryl Anka 26:08

I mean, again, it's not that it's really not that complicated when you look at the analogies that he's used to describe the idea of parallel realities in a multiverse, you know, he often uses an analogy of the television, you know, when you're watching a particular program, you know that there are hundreds of other programs that are playing at the same time, but you're not seeing them because you're not tuned to their frequencies. If you change the channel, you change the program that you're seeing, you have switched, in a sense, to a parallel reality, a parallel program that was playing at the same time as the one you were just watching, so you know that the program you were watching a second ago may still be playing, but you're not seeing it anymore, because you've changed the channel, you've changed frequencies in the television, and they're all there in the TV, they're all accessible in that device right there, but you are not seeing them all, because they're all separated by different frequencies. So that's an apt analogy for the idea of the multiverse - is all the different parallel realities all coexist, and in a sense you could say they're all kind of overlapping in some kind of meta space, but you only get the experience that you're tuned to one at a time. When you change your frequency, you change your experience, and you're shifting to the different variations that are available to you, and that's what creates what you experience as your single timeline, is you're actually kind of downloading and jumping between all these probabilities, and that's that creates the experience we call change and movement and time and space, because everything is all here right now, but you have to single out by your frequency, pluck out of all of those experiences which one is your timeline is your life path, and you do that automatically just by what you've laid out as a soul for the life path for you to experience for the lessons you need to learn.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:13

Oh gosh, I have a gazillion questions in my mind, an important one, parallel reality.

Darryl Anka 28:19

You have all those questions all at once,

Jannecke Øinæs 28:22

right? I know I get super curious whether it's possible for me sometime to meet myself as Jannecke. I've always sort of had a fantasy of meeting myself and talking to myself from a parallel reality. Is that possible?

Darryl Anka 28:39

Well, yes, in a sense, I mean, remember that you are a soul, and a soul on the soul level is connected to all times, past, present, future, parallel realities, other lives. So, yes, and again, this is kind of a natural result of uplifting your frequency. This is one of the reasons why Bashar talks about following your passion so often, because when you follow your passion, what happens? You raise your frequency, and when you raise your frequency, what happens? You become a better receiver of higher frequency information. You have better access to things that all coexist simultaneously. You may not always know when you're downloading information from a parallel reality or something. You don't necessarily always have to know where it's coming from or where the inspiration came from, from your guides, from another version, you know, in a parallel life, past, present, future. You don't have to necessarily know what you're accessing and where you're accessing it from. You just automatically download whatever you need to help move you forward on this life path, and all the others are doing the same with you. They're downloading whatever they need of your experience, your knowledge, and whatever to help them on their life path, so. So it's like this, just constantly changing and shifting dynamic internet of cosmic proportions, where you're constantly plugging in and unplugging from, you know, information that you need at any given moment. You don't always have to know where it's coming from, so what you're asking for, in a sense, you're already automatically doing unconsciously,

Jannecke Øinæs 30:21

huh? Fascinating. When it comes to following your passion, I love that teaching, because I'm a big believer of that myself. I follow my passion doing these interviews, and I didn't know that I, I was going to keep doing that, you know, after so many years. But I am

Darryl Anka 30:38

surprised.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:40

Surprise, do we all have a purpose, a specific purpose? Yeah,

Darryl Anka 30:45

absolutely. But the fundamental purpose of everyone is the same, to be your true self, whatever that means for you. And it is passion that guides you into expressing that true self, because we're talking about following your passion, not only for yourself, but in service to others, to be a living example of what everyone can choose for themselves. So, by acting on your passion, you develop abilities, knowledge, skills, gifts, talents, what have you, that you may partly bring in with you when you incarnate, but also can learn while you're here that you can share with others to help uplift them, so that you're serving the whole, and when you serve the whole, the whole can serve you, so because you're a part of the whole, so the passion principle in his formula is a an instruction manual for how you go into that flow state automatically in life, where you're being your true self, you're allowing synchronicity to bring you what you need when you need it in perfect timing. It's a path of least resistance, it's a path of less effort, it's a path of connection. It's a path of support. You get whatever form of support you need to keep going, whatever that means, because there are many forms of support and abundance. And it's a reflective mirror that reveals to you what your lessons are for you. It reveals any beliefs you're holding on to that don't work for you, negative fear-based beliefs that you can let go of, it helps you have the experience of discovering yourself from a new point of view. That's why the formula is so important, and is so distilled down to five steps that are really like an instruction manual for how you're already creating your physical reality experience, but by knowing what the instruction manual is saying, you're doing it consciously instead of unconsciously, so it gives you, you know, more dominion over what you're doing in life and why you make the choices that you make, and how you can make choices that are more in alignment with who you are and be of better service to everyone else, so yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 33:02

yeah, it's really powerful, and we talked about it in the previous episode, so I'll put a link to that episode. Beliefs, you mentioned that a lot of us are struggling with disempowering beliefs from our childhood, we might not know they're there, we're just having resistance or afraid of being too visible and worth worthiness, we're not worthy of our purpose. What is Bashar's like greatest tip about how to dissolve like a real negative belief that we have?

Darryl Anka 33:35

Well, again, what he talks about in our psychology is a mechanism that he is basically saying this is the motivational mechanism that exists within our psychology, and it's as simple as this: you always will choose and move in the direction of what you believe serves you, and you will always, without fail, move away from what you believe does not now. If you understand that principle as a mechanism, then you can realize, well, wait a minute, I am choosing something that doesn't serve me. So, based on the mechanism, I can understand that that must mean I have a belief that it does serve me in some way better than the alternative. Why would that be? What would I have to believe is true about myself in this situation, in some circumstance that would make me choose something I know is not necessarily beneficial for me, but the only reason I would choose that over the alternative, which I know would be beneficial, more beneficial, is there must be a belief that is telling me that where I am now and what I'm choosing, I have a belief that it's better than the alternative because I have. Belief that the alternative would cause something to happen that would be worse than what's happening now. As much as I may not enjoy what I'm choosing, I must have a belief that if I choose to be myself, to be true to myself, to move in the direction of my passion and my joy, I must have a belief that something worse will happen than what's happening now, and that's why I'm staying away from it. So, what would I have to believe is true about making that choice? Because it's not necessarily a fact that something worse will happen, but I have a belief that something worse will happen. What do I believe that might be? And therefore, when you start examining your beliefs that way, and asking that question based on the motivational mechanism, knowing we always choose what we believe is more beneficial, always without fail. Then we can see that that must mean that even though we can see that there are things that might be more beneficial, we must have a belief that says that the result of choosing those things will be worse than what we're experiencing now. Then we say, well, what am I afraid might happen? Am I afraid I might lose my friends? Am I afraid I might be called crazy? Am I afraid that you know xyz? Whatever, you start investigating, you start digging what that fear is, and eventually, if you are honest with yourself and are willing to look for it, you will find what that reason is. Like I said, you know, you might be afraid that people will think you're nuts. You might be afraid that you'll lose your friends, your family. You might be afraid that that you will be destitute or something. You know, you won't be,

Jannecke Øinæs 36:36

or yeah, if you go for a drink,

Darryl Anka 36:38

whatever, whatever the more positive thing is, you know, would be more positive in your life intellectually. You're not choosing it, you're always choosing what is not necessarily more beneficial. That can only happen because you believe that choosing the alternative would be worse, and you have to find out what that means to you. Why do you believe it would be worse? What do you think is going to happen if you do choose that. What are the stories the negative beliefs are telling you to prevent you from letting them go? Because that's what happens. Beliefs, you have to believe something to be true in order to perpetuate the experience of physical reality. This is how beliefs reinforce themselves with emotions, thoughts, and behaviors, because physical reality is just a projection of consciousness, it's not really real in a sense, ultimately, and therefore, in order to have a physical experience, a belief has to make you feel that it's true, has to make you think that it's true, has to make you behave as if it's true, so you will get a reflection from physical reality that it is true, but you can break out of that by understanding again the motivational mechanism I just described, and why you would buy into that as being true. Why would you believe it's a fact that something worse will happen? This is only the result of a story that the negative belief is telling you, so you won't let it go, because beliefs have to perpetuate themselves. We don't care what the positive beliefs tell us, because we're fine with that, but the negative beliefs are telling you negative things, not maliciously, just to perpetuate themselves, because that's how negative beliefs work. They have to convince you not to let them go, because without any belief at all, you don't have an experience of physical reality, but you can choose more positive beliefs, and they'll be just as real if you understand how this works, and you'll start experiencing your reality shift to reflect those more positive beliefs when you understand that the mechanism works the same for everyone in the universe, doesn't care what you choose, it supports you unconditionally. So, if you want to buy into negative realities and negative definitions, the universe is going to say, okay, I'll support you in that, and I'll reinforce that for you. But if you say, well, I actually prefer to buy into more positive ones, the universe is also going to say, unconditionally, I will support you in that. It doesn't care. It has no mind of its own. It is set up for you to make the determination. You give life meaning. You decide what is real for you and what is not, in terms of how you define your relationship to different situations, what works for you and what doesn't, you get to decide that, and the more you stay in a positive state, the more you start experiencing that, regardless of how any situation was created, whether it was created negatively or not. If you stay in a positive state, you will only get a benefit from that situation, because that's going to filter out any negativity by staying in that positive state. I don't mean that you're going to start calling negative things positive things, but you will understand that negative things will not affect you, because it's up to you to decide that how you feel, how you, how you are impacted by anything. Is only the result of whether you agree to match that frequency or not, and why you would decide to match a frequency you say is not something you prefer is what starts that conversation going within you, and when you understand the motivational mechanism, when you understand how that works, then you can start asking that question, start self-investigating, and be willing to hear the answer, and it will move you forward.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:26

Thank you for that. Thank you for going into depth. It's such an important topic. And do you think these beliefs stem from my previous lives, past lives? No, just this life,

Darryl Anka 40:38

this life, because their soul, every life, your soul lays out the life path. Now, I'm not saying it can't draw from past life experiences in order to do that, but it doesn't come from the past life. You're not linked or anchored in that way. The soul sets up the life path lessons that you need to learn based on what the soul has learned from other experiences, but each life is unique in that way, and the things that you collect when you're growing up as a physical being, when you choose to have an incarnation, are the things that are going to reinforce what you need to look at and what lessons you need to learn that the soul has laid out for this life path, for this unique incarnation,

Jannecke Øinæs 41:25

and what about destiny? Like, is it destined that we're going to have this episode, or is it us choosing it?

Darryl Anka 41:35

I just laid out what destiny was, so I'll rephrase that. Your soul makes certain choices to learn certain lessons. Those lessons you will, as a physical incarnation, go through. You will go through the situations that give you the opportunity to learn those lessons. That's your destiny. But the destiny we're talking about here, in physical terms, is the result of the soul's free will choice to learn those lessons, so the free will you have as a physical being is how you learn those lessons. How quickly, how slowly, how many people do you impact, how many aspects of it do you investigate and experience? You have a lot of leeway in how you experience those lessons, but you as a soul agreed to lay out those lessons, those challenges, so that you can grow, so that you can learn, so that you can discover yourself from a new point of view. That's why we forget who we are, so that we can remember who we are from a new point of view, that's what expands creation, because the structure of existence never changes. It is what it is, our relationship to it, our experience of it, and our perspective of existence is what changes and what expands our connection to it, and what expands creation as a whole. So it's how we approach those challenges that is based on our free will as physical beings, but facing those challenges we will, because that's the result of the free will of the soul that you are, and that is your destiny. You cannot be anything other than this unique being in experiencing those challenges, you're always going to experience it from this unique personality point of view, no matter what it is. Now, you can let more of your soul through, and the personality can sort of shift, but you're still experiencing that from this unique point of view as this particular being. So, only when you go back to spirit after death, then you can decide again. Okay, what did I learn from that experience? And now I'm going to choose something different, or I'm going to hang out in spirit for a while, or I'm going to visit other dimensions. Now you have absolute free will. Now you can make any choice you want. You'll consult with your guides, you'll consult with your spirit family, your team, whatever. Then you'll decide what you want to do next, and you don't. You're not forced to reincarnate. That's again, you have absolute free choice, absolute free will. And more people than not will probably stay in the spirit realm for a little while. If they decide to reincarnate again, it probably won't be for a while. Sometimes it can be quick, but on average you'll probably wait, because the next lessons you would want to learn probably won't be available in human society at the rate that humans evolve for a little while, so it might be, you know, 50 years, 100 years before humanity offers you a new set of possible lessons that the soul could learn that are different enough from what you learned last time, because of the rate at which humanity may more slowly evolve in physical terms than what a spirit would experience in a timeless state.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:00

If you don't choose to, oh, I'll go to the Pleiades and do an extraterrestrial life.

Darryl Anka 45:06

Yep, exactly. Whatever, anything and everything is open to you at that point.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:13

This is so good news. I gotta say, I mean, this is the opposite of what we've been told. I mean, this shows how powerful we are

Darryl Anka 45:21

absolutely, and, and choosing these incarnations in a physical reality that is so steeped in negativity, in polarity, and so on, and so forth, also demonstrates how powerful we are. Bashar has called this the Earth School, that is, it's a, it's a challenging school. This is a university course. This is not kindergarten. This is where souls go to really advance quickly, because the lessons are so strong, so deep. A lot of civilizations don't have the same degree of depth to the experience of polarity that Earth does, there are maybe a few others, but Earth is one of the more challenging schools in the universe, and so you grow more quickly. It's like going to an advanced class, you learn more quickly, you learn more things more quickly, and the lessons you pick up allow the soul to advance more quickly.

Jannecke Øinæs 46:18

Yeah, I was curious about that, whether Bashar and other civilizations have the law of attraction and have the same universal principles as we do.

Darryl Anka 46:28

Yeah, what we call the law of attraction is to him the fourth law of existence. What you put out is what you get back. Now, the secret behind the law of attraction that a lot of people don't quite understand, you know. I know the law of attraction was called the secret, but there's actually a secret behind the secret, and that is it's not wrong when the secret says yes, you have to be the vibrational frequency of what it is you wish to attract. It's not wrong in saying that, but that's kind of leaving something out, and what Bashar says that's leaving out is it creates the idea that we have to learn that frequency, we don't, our natural soul's vibrational frequency is already geared to attract every single thing you need in life that will fulfill you and allow you to experience your lessons in the most positive way, so we don't have to learn that's our core frequency. We don't have to learn it. What we have to learn is to stop blocking it, is to get out of its way, to let go of the negative and fear-based beliefs that prevent our core frequency from attracting what we need in life, so that's the only difference he's saying is the true secret behind the secret. You don't have to learn the frequency to attract what you need, you have to get out of the way of that frequency and stop keeping things away from you because you are afraid because you have negative belief systems about yourself or that thing or that situation or whatever, so it's a filter, it's getting rid of the filters, that's the secret, it's letting the natural vibration that you are bring you what you need, which it's always trying to do.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:22

always inside, everything is inside, right?

Darryl Anka 48:25

It's always trying to do it.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:27

Wrapping up soon this interesting episode. I'm curious, how has Bashar changed your life personally?

Darryl Anka 48:37

Well, first of all, I'm obviously capable of talking about a lot of these things that he never was before, I'm applying a lot of these things in my own life. It's certainly made my life much more synchronistic, much more emotionally balanced, a lot more effortless. Things flow more, I'm in a flow state more often, and just being able to share this information as myself now, after channeling him for 42 years. This is why I'm beginning to teach classes as myself as well, because you know, in any 90 minute session that Bashar may conduct, you can only go so far, but by teaching classes as myself, I can take a lot of his principles, and I can offer segments of it that take hours to discuss, and you know, weeks, maybe, to go into depth about, so that people can really understand what these principles are all about. How to make them their own, how to use them in their life, how to apply them, how to get an effect from it. Because it's not really important that people believe that Bashar is real. I can't prove his existence, you know, but what's real is the information. The information actually does have an effect, does make a difference in your life. And I get that feedback from people all the time. When I really apply the principle that Bashar talked about here and there, it made a world of difference in my life, as told. Be different now. I constantly get that feedback, so the proof is not that Bashar exists. The proof is that the information works wherever it's coming from. So, I don't ever insist that people have to believe that Bashar is a real ET. I can't prove it. I have my own validations for that, but that doesn't matter to anyone else. The information is the proof. Use it, it will make a difference in your life.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:28

Wonderful. I have a few questions I ask everyone, Darryl, and I've asked you before. Now, curious, what you're going to say now. So, my first one is, what is self love to you? Since I'm writing a book about self love. I'm very curious about this question.

Darryl Anka 50:43

Well, it's being true to who you really are. It's being willing to actually be yourself. That's the most loving thing you can do for yourself, is not try to be someone you're not. Find out who you really are. What is your truth in life? What is your passion in life, what is that high vibration that allows you to wake up every morning and be excited about living, be excited about diving into it. You have to be true to yourself. You have to be transparent. Who are you? Who are you, really? You know, it's that's being responsible, not for anyone else, but to everyone else, to let them know who you are and being true to yourself, to me, that's ultimate unconditional self love. It's being who you are and being okay with that

Jannecke Øinæs 51:29

beautiful. And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective or Bashar's perspective, or both?

Darryl Anka 51:37

The irony of that question and the answer to that is that the deeper meaning of life is that you're the one that gives life meaning. Without you, life has no meaning, and I don't mean that in a negative sense. I mean it's blank, it's neutral. You're designed to define what meaning is to you, and the meaning you give it is how you experience it. So we're designed to give life meaning, the meaning you give it is how you experience it. So, without you, it's in a sense it has no built-in meaning, it's just a sense of neutral props, and you get to decide what it means to you.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:13

Back to the power we have inside. Absolutely,

Darryl Anka 52:16

you have to take responsibility. Yeah, and that means you have to be able to respond, response ability, you have the ability to respond to what's going on in a positive way and define it in a way that works for you. Everyone has a way that works for them. If you start to feel overwhelmed in life with what you're doing, you feel you can't handle it, that's your first clue that you're not doing it in the way that works for you. Everyone has a way that works for you. You have to have the creative imagination to find out or even invent what that may be, but everyone has a path that works uniquely for them. It doesn't have to be done exactly as everyone else does things, so that's your job is to find the path that works for you in every situation, and being overwhelmed is your first clue you're not doing it in the way that works for you.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:14

I love that. That was powerful. Thank you. It always is powerful with you, Darryl. Where can people find you if they want to learn? Do some classes, where would you guide them to go?

Darryl Anka 53:26

You will find anything having to do with Bashar or the classes that we teach at the bashar.org website, B A S H A R.org If they want to know what I'm doing in terms of following my passion, because my wife and I own an escape room here in Los Angeles, and I write books and things like that. They can go to Boggledescape rooms.com B O G G L E D, Boggled Escape rooms.com or they can go to Darrylanka.com

Jannecke Øinæs 53:54

Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming back to the show, and I can't wait to see you in San Diego soon.

Darryl Anka 53:59

Thank you so much for having me. I deeply appreciate opportunities like this, where we get to share information. So, thank you for the work that you're doing as well.

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