Extraterrestrial Contact 2026: What Bashar Says Is Coming! With Darryl Anka

Darryl Anka 0:00

2026 is the year of disclosure that will get people used to the understanding that extraterrestrials are with us and have been with us for a long time, and that 2027 is basically the target date we would have actual ETs being introduced to us through official channels.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:17

Countries are unsure what relationship they have to each other, and they seem like they're gearing up.

Darryl Anka 0:24

Well, it'll eventually snap. People will reach a point where enough is enough, as long as they're willing to act, then things will change. Now, of course, we'll be given opportunities to really explore a number of different things we've never really been given an opportunity to explore before. When we have open contact. It's like we're a bunch of children that are squabbling and having tantrums. And finally, the ETs show up, and it's like the adults have entered the room and said, that's enough. You need to get along. You need to learn how to manage your planet. You need to learn how to manage yourselves. For the benefit of all, it's time you learned your lessons. It's time to move forward. If we decided that we were going to have Global Thermonuclear War, they would not allow it, and they can't allow the earth school to be destroyed. It's too valuable. Do humans on Earth want to have open contact with ETs and become part of a galactic family? Yes or No, take a vote, and the vote is, how do you respond to the information we're delivering? How do you apply it or not in your life? And do you then reach out to us and say, Yes?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:36

Darryl Anka, a warm welcome back to the wisdom from North show. How are you?

Darryl Anka 1:41

I'm good, Jannecke, how are you today?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:44

I'm very good, and I'm so excited to have you here. We had such a rich conversation the last time a few years ago. It was very well received. And now we're also going to meet each other in Sedona at the Sedona ascension retreat in March, and I'm really excited about that. And of course, I'll drop a link below for anyone who's interested in attending. So today, I have tons of questions as always, but I want to introduce you. For those who are new to you, you are a world famous Channeler of the extraterrestrial being called Bashar who exists in a parallel reality, or the future, we can say, and you've been doing so for more than 40 years. Yeah, and and through Bashar is teaching you are delivering multi dimensional guidance and wisdom. I gotta say, who many view as the most compelling and dynamic information delivered to this day, to this planet, which is amazing.

Darryl Anka 2:40

Thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:42

So I want to start by asking, How do you feel our conversation today might expand people's minds and consciousness.

Darryl Anka 2:50

Well, any time someone like yourself opens a dialog like this and makes this kind of exchange available to the public. It offers other options, other opportunities for people to look at things from a different perspective. It gives them a chance to absorb information they may not be familiar with, to ponder it, to decide whether it's a choice that would lead them in a new direction in their lives or not. So I think you know, having these conversations is not only adding to our ability to have more choices, to move forward in our lives in positive and constructive ways, to explore new things, but you know, it also allows the society as a whole to realize that it's okay to explore a number of things that in the past may have been called sort of outside the boundaries of, you know, rationality or whatever, but they do have foundations to them that actually are rooted In our physical reality. And in I think it gives people a chance to to understand that, to explore that, and to to understand how when people do absorb and apply the principles that we're talking about into their lives, there is actually a positive effect. Their lives do get better, and therefore they kind of prove to themselves by applying the information that these principles that have been around for 1000s of years, but which are only really being sort of rediscovered in modern times, can make an impact in our society and change things in ways to create a world that we would prefer.

Jannecke Øinæs 4:39

Yeah, and I'd love to go into the five step formula later on and really dive deep into that. But before, I think my audience and many others are really curious about the pivotal year of 2027 which Bashar has been saying everything will change. Has been saying everything will change. And it's all leading up to that. And, yeah, I would love to just go there, because he's saying that open contact is imminent, and that within two years, our society will be introduced to most likely hybrids, Pleiadians and many other species. Yeah. Could you expand on that?

Darryl Anka 5:19

Yeah, and he's not the only one saying that there are other psychic mediums that have picked up upon that particular wave of change, and have said, basically, yeah, we're looking roughly at about two years for the disclosure of all UFO information, for open contact to begin, for the public to be made aware of the fact that we're not alone and never have been alone. And so I think that that's still on track, as far as I understand, that 2026 is the year of disclosure of a lot of information that will get people used to the understanding and used to the idea that extraterrestrials are with us and have been with us for a long time, and that that 2027, is basically the target date for when we would be made publicly aware of that fact, and that we would have actual ETs being introduced to us through official channels. Now my understanding is that certain factions of extraterrestrials, what we refer to as hybrid extraterrestrials. And these are these are not human beings. They're beings that are a mix of Homo sapiens and extraterrestrial genetics that were not born on earth, but have been brought to Earth, but look human enough that they can mingle among us, work among us, and they have been living and working among us for a while, helping with certain scientific advancements, certain sociological advancements, environmental advancements, quietly behind the scenes, but my understanding is that the first stage of open contact would Be the revelation of who these beings actually are. They know who they are, of course, but right now they're keeping it secret because it's not time yet for them their presence to be revealed among us. But when open contact occurs, they will be the first level, shall we say, of extraterrestrials we'll be able to interact with, and as we get used to doing that, then we will be introduced to more and more, let's say pure extraterrestrial beings, Pleiadians and so forth. Over the next couple of decades, will be integrated more and more into our society, or perhaps more precisely, we will be integrated into their society, and, you know, become members of a galactic family. So I believe we're starting to see the signs of this accelerating now with all of these congressional hearings on disclosure UFO information, the fact that they're now exploring and examining how to create conditions and laws for whistleblowers and military people to come forth with their UFO experiences, with their knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes, like reverse engineering programs and things like that and that, they're creating laws to protect these people so they can come forth with their information without fear of ridicule, without fear of losing their careers over this. So that's a big change in our society, and I see it only accelerating. In fact, even recently, I think one of the whistleblowers started just literally naming names of people that have been involved in these programs, who have been secretly involved, and now they're literally just saying, well, this person was involved, and this person was involved, so it gives us something to look into. So I see this as accelerating through 2026 and ideally culminating in 2027 as open contact.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:55

Wow, fascinating. And when you speak about interaction, what has Bashar said about that, are we speaking about that the governments and certain people are interacting with them or us as well? Like interacting?

Darryl Anka 9:09

Yes, we are. There are individuals. Yes, of course, there are encounters that happen and things like that. But I mean, officially, my understanding is that there are certain ETs that are officially working or well behind the scenes unofficially, I suppose, working with scientists, working with government officials, certain ones, environmental engineers, people like that, moving our technology, moving our understanding of our connection to nature, forward a bit at a time, but again, that can accelerate when their identities are made public, because we'll be able to interact with them directly. We won't necessarily have to go through a lot of the officials at this point. It won't be a secret anymore, so the first group will be able to interact with face to face directly. Will be the extraterrestrial hybrids that have already been among us because they're already part of our society. In a sense. We sometimes encounter them. We sometimes come across them. They have the ability telepathically to sort of get us to ignore them. At the moment, there have been stories and reports of, you know, many people in society kind of saying, Well, I ran across this unusual individual, and they just felt wrong. They just felt like they didn't belong here, or something was odd about them. But then I just kind of mysteriously forgot about it and went on my day. So there are those kinds of crossings where we do run into them now and then, but at this point, because it's not appropriate for them to reveal who they are, they will telepathically encourage us to forget that we saw them, or look away or go about our business. When the day comes when they are revealed to us, that won't happen anymore. We'll be able to interact with them directly.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:56

Interesting. And why is this happening now? Is that because we have increased our vibration, because I do see some sort of a paradox there. And I had a woman reaching out to me. She is a great fan of your work, and she said, Could you please ask this question to Daryl, because we see world leaders today who have a mindset of power and war and control, and wouldn't they see this as a threat and act accordingly?

Darryl Anka 11:25

Yes, well, again, they're operating out of fear. You have to understand that what's going right now on, right now in the world, with all the chaos and uncertainty and attempts to control everything and attempts to gain power, are really reactions to feeling powerless. These people operate out of fear. They don't feel connected, they don't feel powerful, they're extremely insecure, and therefore they have to sort of reach out physically and try to control their environment, to give them some semblance of the idea of power. And of course, this is not true power. This is simply the attempt to cover up the fact that they feel powerless, that they feel less than that. They're full of fear that anything will change to expose the idea that they believe is true about themselves, which is that they are powerless, which isn't true. They just don't understand what real power is, what real connection to Source is. They don't understand these things, but this is chaos now, because we're getting all of this up, out into the open, out of our systems, so everyone can see very, very plainly what the negative side is like. So we can see, by contrast, more clearly, what the positive choices are that we need to make to turn the world around. So that's why all of this is coming out into the public, why it's being put on the table. It's, you know, agents of change, both positive and negative, still serve to change things by demonstrating things we do prefer and things we don't prefer much more blatantly and much more clearly, so that there's no confusion between the two, so that we can finally say, Okay, this doesn't work for us. We need to make a change. And we're seeing more and more and more options coming up with recent events all over the world about things that we simply will no longer abide, that we have to do something about, that we have to take steps to change, so that we're doing so for the benefit of humanity in general, and not just for the benefit of the few.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:27

Yeah, because I do think it's interesting to have a sense that the tension in the world is increasing and the polarity is increasing, and that countries are unsure what relationship they have to each other, and they seem like they're gearing up. Does Bashar say anything about how this will culminate, where this is going?

Darryl Anka 13:48

Well, it'll eventually snap. People will reach a point where it's enough is enough, and they will finally do something about it. So again, we can use this to our advantage. Bashar often refers to this as the rubber band analogy. The farther back you pull a rubber band, when you finally let go, it'll fly that much farther and faster in the opposite direction. So basically, he's saying, the farther back you pull this rubber band into negativity, when you finally let go, it finally snaps, it'll fly that much faster and farther into the light, into a positive reality. So we can use the momentum of all the buildup in the negative side, of things that are happening to actually propel and push us into the positive side much more quickly, because when it finally snaps, it'll change relatively fast. So we're using that momentum to our advantage, or we can do so as long as people are willing to step up and do things that will help others, that will serve humanity, that will make changes, as long as they're willing to act, then things will change. Now, of course, we'll be given opportunities to really explore a number of different things. We've never really been given an opportunity. To explore before when we have open contact, because then it will be kind of like, and I certainly don't mean this in a judgmental way, but it's an relatively apt analogy. It's like we're a bunch of children that are squabbling and having tantrums, and finally the ETS show up, and it's like the adults have entered the room and said, that's enough. You need to get along. You need to learn how to manage your planet. You need to learn how to manage yourselves for the benefit of all. Stop fighting, stop squabbling, stop throwing tantrums, stop feeling less than this is the way the universe works. We're here to help you. We're here to tell you it's time you grew up. It's time you learned your lessons. It's time to move forward. That's my interpretation of what's happening with open contact. The adults are stepping into the room,

Jannecke Øinæs 15:56

And how long would you say that they have been here? Because you said

Darryl Anka 16:01

1000s of years, maybe longer. But the thing of it is, see, this is the ironic thing is, when we talk about open contact, in a sense, we're really just talking about the revelation of the existence of ETs for Western culture, because indigenous cultures around the world have been saying that they've been in contact with ETs for 1000s of years. This is not new to them. They have been interacting with ETs because their cultures are very open and willing and recognizing that we're all part of a bigger family. And they talk about star beings and the star people and the star ancestors, they've been talking about that for 1000s of years, and Western culture hasn't been paying attention. So open contact is really about the last culture on Earth, as widespread as it might be, finally, understanding what indigenous cultures have understood for 1000s of years, ETs have been here, in a sense, they've never gone away. There have been waves of when more of them might be here or less of them might be here for various reasons, based on what's happening on Earth and how our evolution is happening, they sometimes take a little bit of a hands off policy to let us evolve, to let us grow, to let us learn our lessons. But then over certain periods of time, they have come back again and again and again and said, Okay, what have you learned? We're here now. Can we move forward? So I think we are reaching the end of the cycle of them, sort of being quiet, behind the scenes, leaving us alone, more or less, but now we're starting a new cycle where they're showing up again. They're saying, Okay, it's time for us to enter the room. It's time for you to recognize more and more UFO sightings are happening, more reports, more encounters are happening around the world, and more things are changing with regard to your recognition that we exist. So it's now time for us to come back, reveal ourselves and show you that we can all move forward together in a more positive way. It's time for that chapter of humanity's evolution to begin. ETS have been helping with a lot of different technologies, space technology, energy technologies, AI, technologies, things like that. So I think that when open contact occurs, we'll get a fuller understanding of what their involvement has been, about, how they've been helping move us forward with that, and along with it, will come some ideas and instructions for how they have utilized AI in positive ways and give us the understanding of how we can do the same. So the only thing I would call an intervention or an interference would be to prevent us from annihilating ourselves. That's where their hands off. Policy ends. If we decided that we were going to have Global Thermonuclear War. They would not allow it. That would destroy the whole thing, and they won't allow that Earth is too valuable a school for souls to be destroyed. So while they will not be able to stop local skirmishes, because that's up to us to do something as destructive as a world war with nuclear weapons would release so much energy it would actually interpenetrate into different dimensions. In other words, it wouldn't stay in our own backyard. Therefore, they can't allow that, and they can't allow the earth school to be destroyed. It's too valuable. So the idea is they have, and there are many reports of this. They have demonstrated this fact over and over again by having UFOs appear over missile silos, scrambling the launch codes, shutting down the launch codes. The one, very famous one is in the mound. From Air Force base where they, you know, a glowing red UFO shut down all the launch codes and scramble them. So we've been shown again and again and again, in no uncertain terms, you will not be allowed to launch these things. That's the one area where they will intervene and will stop us from annihilating ourselves.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:18

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Darryl Anka 21:02

Well, yeah, you know, they see this as an extremely important school for souls, for advancement, for understanding how to transform darkness into light, positive out of negative and freedom out of limitation. It's a very advanced school, and souls can accelerate very rapidly here if they're willing to learn the lessons that the challenges in life brings them in this particular kind of a reality. So they don't want to lose that in the galaxy, it's relatively not that it's the only only one, but it's relatively rare, the mix of things that exist here, and the way in which we experience them. It's a it's a very unique school.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:47

Yeah, I've heard that before. When you say they, from my understanding, there are infinite different species out there in the galaxy. So who are you referring to? Is it a specific group of extraterrestrials?

Darryl Anka 22:04

Yes, I think we're dealing with a few groups. We're not, obviously not dealing with every extraterrestrial in existence, because that probably is a relatively infinite number, or certainly so large. We can't even imagine what that number might be. But there are certain groups that are connected to, associated with and involved with humanity's evolution, the hybrids certainly because they're genetically part of us, the Pleiadians, Arcturians, Lyrans, Tall Whites, the grays, of course, of all different stripes, because there are many different factions of grays, they can't be lumped into one particular thing. And there are several others that people have encountered that seem to be relatively common, Reptilians, things like that. Now, again, you know there are different kinds of agendas here, different kinds of interactions. Even though there is an overall agenda of preserving the earth and moving humanity forward, they can still each have their own way of going about this, a way of discussing what is best for everyone, how we fit into the Galactic Family, so on and so forth, or the Federation that we will ultimately become members of in the decades ahead. So, yeah, I think we're dealing maybe roughly with about a dozen species or so right now. As far as I can tell, there may be, you know, a few others that come and go, that they're not really deeply involved, but they may have research mission, missions of observations, taking samples, things like that, for their own purposes. So there may be more than that that have visited us. But in terms of the main group that is really connected and concerned with our evolution, I think we may be dealing with somewhere around about a dozen different species, roughly.

Jannecke Øinæs 24:03

And would you say it's possible, for instance, to use AI to connect with them, for those who really want to connect with ETs? Is it possible, for instance, to use chatGPT and Gemini to write to them and connect in that way? Or do we need to go inside?

Darryl Anka 24:20

Well, I mean writing something in any format, even if you're writing it on a piece of paper, in a sense, is going inside because you're expressing what is inside of you outwardly, and even talking out loud, can connect you to them. Remember, they're extremely sensitive, extremely telepathic. They can pick up on what you're saying. So I'm not sure it really makes a difference whether we use chatGPT, or whether we simply talk out loud, or whether we write things down in a journal. I think all of these are expressions outward expressions of an inner desire to make a connection, and they'll pick up on the energy of that nomatter what medium you use to do that in. So it's not so much that we have to use AI to do that. It's just a matter of being willing to express it outwardly in some concrete form, even speaking out loud, and they'll telepathically pick up on what they need to pick up on. I mean, the whole reason why we're seeing an acceleration is because so many people are desirous of the truth, desirous of what's going on, to know what's going on really behind the scenes. And that's why we're seeing, you know, more and more disclosure of information coming out about ETs and UFOs and things like that. That is a response to what we've been putting out there as a kind of invitation for them to show themselves, because inside, we deeply know we're not alone. We know they're here on some level. I usually call this the biggest secret that everyone already knows. You know, because when you really start talking to people, they don't really talk about it much in public, but when you have an ability to talk to people in they feel safe responding to you, they will tell you, more often than not, that they've had what they think is a sighting, that they've had, what they think is an encounter, that they've had, An unusual experience that can probably be translated as some sort of extraterrestrial or spiritual contact. More people have these kinds of experiences than we're willing to admit publicly, and I think that's starting to come out because people are starting to feel a little safer talking about their experiences because of all the stuff that's coming out about disclosure along official lines. So once it's okay along official lines, once people start to feel like, well, people won't call me crazy for saying this, then they're willing to talk about their experiences. And I think we'll find out that many more people have had these experiences than we know of.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:58

And is it a friendly universe? Can we trust that they're benevolent?

Darryl Anka 27:03

The ETs that we're dealing with are benevolent. I mean, you know, this is kind of an old chestnut that people have asked about and mentioned, but really, when you think about how advanced they are, if they weren't benevolent, I'm not sure why they wouldn't have taken us over a long, long time ago, before we had any ability to resist at all, if you know, and the other the other side of this coin, when people really stop and think about it, is, look, if you have the ability to traverse the stars, there are so many resources out there that you have access to one planet is nothing to them. They can go anywhere they want to get anything they need. They don't need to take over a planet or destroy civilization. And the third aspect of this is they operate from true intelligence. I don't think humanity really even understands what true intelligence actually looks like, but one of its calling cards is to operate on whole systems, to see the entire thing as one system. So intelligent, ETs are looking at the universe as one system. Everything's interconnected, just like you look at the ecosystem of a planet, everything is necessary. If you get rid of one thing, you have thrown the entire system out of whack, out of balance. They look at the universe that way. So ETs that are truly intelligent are never going to have designs on wiping out or taking over a civilization in that way, because then the civilization is not being left to add its uniqueness to the whole system. And there are things even ETs can learn from what our experiences here on Earth are as souls, learning lessons about positive and negative reality, about polarity, so, about transformation, you know? So they look at this as a valuable piece of the universe, a valuable expression. They're never going to try and eliminate something that's a part of a system that they belong to, because that would deprive them of things they need to that's the way true intelligence looks at the universe as one whole system.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:21

And let's go into Bashar as teachings. How does he look at reality? I think he has four or five steps where he explains how reality the basis of reality. And also, I know there is part of a law of attraction in there. I'm curious whether that is where he speaks about the whole universe, whether every single planet and civilization has the same understanding, understanding, yeah,

Darryl Anka 29:51

in general, well, not. I mean, can't speak for every civilization out there, the ones that are dealing with us. Yes, they do so. I have the same or similar understanding of, like I said, how to approach, you know, your relationship with source, with all that is, whatever you want to call it, with existence, with the universe, and generally, basically, there are two sets of five things here. There are what Bashara refers to as the five laws. And there are the five steps of the formula that define how we create our reality, experience, our experience of reality. So the five laws, these are universal, extra dimensional. They can't be changed. They're the same everywhere. They're five fundamental things about existence itself that never change. And this is, you exist. You cannot cease to exist. Existence is its own state. The one is the all. The all are the one. In other words, everything is made out of the same one thing. Everything is here and now. Basically, everything exists in the same moment, and space and time are essentially projections of consciousness, and are illusionary. In a sense, they serve a purpose, but they're projections of consciousness. What you put out is what you get back. And this is sort of the basis of the law of attraction, is whatever vibrational frequency you give off, because everything is energy in vibration, energy vibrating at different frequencies. That's how you create the difference between one thing and another. Why you see differences in the one is that there are different vibrational frequencies within it that translate into different things. But what you put out, what vibration you put out, is basically determining what you experience in life, because everything is nothing but a mirror. It's reflecting back to you, and the fifth is, everything changes except the laws. Change is the only constant. Everything is constantly shifting, constantly changing, except the laws. So those are the five laws. And that's true everywhere the formula, what he calls the formula, the five steps of the formula are more for how you apply, how you live, how you thrive in physical reality. By doing these five steps, it's literally like being handed an instruction manual for this is how you're already creating your reality experience, but you're doing it unconsciously. I'm giving you the instruction manual to show you is what he's saying, what it is you're actually doing. So you can do it more consciously and create an effect and an outcome that is more preferable and more positive, and done more consciously with more awareness. So the five steps of the formula or the instruction manual are. Number one, you act on whatever is representative of your passion first, because passion, you know, I mean, we've heard this for a long time. You know, live your dream, follow your bliss, act on your passion. Bashar answers why that's important. He doesn't leave it, you know, up in the air as just a euphemism. The reason it's important is because what we call the sensation of passion or excitement or creativity or love is our physical body's translation of an energy message from our soul. Our soul operates on a certain high frequency. Our physical mind operates on a more limited frequency, or a lower one, if you want to say that, but the soul is attempting to guide the physical mind, and it does so because it's non physical. It has to do so through messages that come in the form of energy vibrations, energy frequencies, our physical minds and our physical bodies translate that vibrational message into the sensation we call passion and excitement. So the reason it's important to act on your excitement is because this is your soul saying, This is who you are. This is the next step on your path. You have to trust it. You have to act on it. This is what's going to keep you aligned with your soul so you act on it. That's number one, first and foremost. But you have to make sure that it truly is your excitement. You can't just gloss it over and say, Oh yes, this is more exciting than anything else because you're in denial or in fear about what what would actually be your true path, and you're just trying to cover up your anxiety by pretending it's excitement. You have to be honest with yourself about what your passion truly is all about. And there are several things that go with that we go deeply into, that another. Your time. The second principle after acting on your passion is to take it as far as you can until you can take it no further. In other words, you act on every opportunity that comes to you, or you even make opportunities that don't exist to act on it, and you take it as far as you can until either the excitement naturally wanes, making sure you're not the one killing the excitement with a fear based belief. But when it naturally wanes, then you look for the next thing. Or when you have no more ability to act on it, you look for the next thing that is more exciting than anything else. And this can be everyday things too, taking a walk, reading a book, talking to a friend, and you act on that next and you keep doing that the third thing, and this is one of the more challenging things for most people, is you act on your excitement with zero assumption and zero insistence on what the outcome is supposed to look like. Because the truth is is, while you may think you imagine what an ideal outcome might be, the truth is, you have no clue what that actually is going to look like. You may guess sometimes correctly, but ultimately, you really don't know, but if you use visualization, if you use a symbol of what the ideal outcome can be, to get into the state of excitement and passion about something happening that would be at least representative of your vision, then you drop the vision, then the soul can bring you what is actually representative of that vision, of that energy level that you used the vision to get to. That's the important thing about visualization, is not insisting that your particular picture has to come to pass. Sometimes it might, but it's not insisting or assuming that that's the ideal outcome, because what to the physical mind seems to be the ceiling to the soul is just the floor, and it can give you something much better than you were capable of imagining with your physical mind, if you let it so you use visualization to get into the state of receptivity and excitement and passion, using the visualization as a symbol of an ideal outcome, but then you don't insist on what you've pictured, so that what needs to come to you can actually come which could be many times better than you imagined. The fourth step is that you stay in a positive state no matter what happens. You don't apply automatic negative meaning to anything. I'm not saying you start calling negative things positive things, but you stay in a positive state. And even if something was created out of negative intention by someone else, it doesn't mean it will affect you negatively. If you stay in a positive state, that positive vibration will filter out any negativity and allow you to get a benefit from that experience, even if it was initiated negatively by someone else. Staying in a positive state again is what you put out, is what you get back. It's that law of attraction again, so staying in a positive state will also give you the ability to receive inspirational thoughts and ideas that will move you forward, using the incident and the situation, even though it may have started negatively in a more positive way, or getting something positive out of it. Let me make a side note here about the law of attraction. Also. It's not wrong that you have to be in the proper vibration to experience certain things that are the equivalent of that frequency. That's not wrong. Where I think people have a misunderstanding of the Law of Attraction is that they believe they have to learn to get into that vibrational state. You don't your soul is already giving off the frequency that automatically attracts everything you need in life that will fulfill you. It's not an issue of having to learn what that frequency is. The issue is getting out of the way of that frequency and allowing it to bring you what you need by letting go of fear based and negative beliefs that block your innate frequency from attracting those things to you, so you don't have to learn the frequency. You have to learn to stop blocking the frequency with negative beliefs and clear yourself out. Now the fifth step is to examine your belief systems, to let go of the negative ones, the fear based ones, to realize that those are probably things you picked up along the way growing up from your parents, your school, your friends, society, and they're not really about you. They're about who you were dealing with at the time growing up, because you didn't know the difference really in what was about you and what was about them. But as adults, you can start to start. See that. I mean, you can always say, well, when someone presents something to you, it's always an opportunity to go, yes, do they have something that I need to understand, that will improve me, that will make me a better person? But once you decide that that's not true, then anything coming from them, you can realize, well, it's not my issue, it's their issue, and maybe I need to do something to help them deal with that issue, because that's why they're in my life. When we talk about people being a reflection of you, we don't necessarily mean a one to one reflection. When someone comes into your life that has a particular negative issue, that doesn't mean you have the same issue. It may mean that. But again, with honest self investigation, you get to decide whether or not they have something to give you that you need to apply to yourself to be a better person. But if you decide, after self examination, that that has nothing to do with you, then you can recognize they're in my life as a reflection of what I am willing to do to help someone else improve their lives. That's the reflection I'm looking at. Is a reflection of my willingness to be of service to someone, to help them. So those are the five steps of the formula and the five laws that are a description of the structure of existence, because you have to understand the structure of existence never changes. It is what it is. The constant changing is a change of relationship to it, of experience of it, of perspective of it. That's how creation expands. Is that we constantly change our relationship to it, but the structure is always the same.

Jannecke Øinæs 41:45

Thank you for mapping that out in such great detail. I really appreciate that. And from what I understand, Bashar is sharing this from his own experience of how he and his species evolved, right?

Darryl Anka 41:58

Yeah, and his observations of different civilizations, including ours, because he is a first contact specialist. So he is one of the people in his society that actually initiates first contact with different civilizations, and this is usually the way. In most cases they go about it. They find a way or a willing participant who is willing to go into a state that allows the information to telepathically be delivered to that society, and then they watch, what does that society do with that information? Do they use it to their benefit? Do they open up their understanding of what we're talking about? Does it make them more vibrationally compatible with our society or not? And if it makes us more vibrationally compatible, then the sharing of this information is one of the steps that leads to open contact. If it doesn't make us more vibrationally compatible, it leads us away from open contact, because then they're saying, well, they're not ready, and we're not going to force ourselves on anyone. This is us testing the waters. Do humans on Earth want to have open contact with ETs and become part of a galactic family? Yes or No, take a vote, and the vote is, how do you respond to the information we're delivering? How do you apply it or not in your life? How do you upgrade your vibration to know who you really are, to know yourselves as souls in this universe. And do you then reach out to us and say, yes, we want to interact with you. We want to be part of a bigger family, or do we want to just stay in our own little planet and leave us alone, we still have that choice.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:43

Yeah, yeah, I think we're coming to understanding that we are co creating. It's not them and us and they're above us, and it's their choice. We are emanating our beliefs and choices absolutely synchronicities. Where does that come into the picture? Is it like this that when you pay attention to synchronicities, they become miracles? Yeah.

Darryl Anka 44:12

Well, miracles, according to Bashar, are the natural order of things. They're not the exceptions. It's when we start seeing how the universe actually works. Synchronicity is linear space times way of showing us that everything is connected to everything else, that there are no accidents, that it's all an orchestration, that everything works out in perfect timing, and that when we start experiencing more of that orchestration, more of that synchronicity, then we know we're operating in a higher vibration, because we're seeing the interconnectedness of existence more often and experiencing that interconnectedness more often. And therefore that's how you know that your vibration is going up, because more synchronous. City is one of the ways that is the response from the universe to another level that you're operating on, where your senses are able to start picking up on the fact that everything is an orchestration. Everything is working together, that there are no accidents, and that all life paths are interconnected and intertwined for various reasons. Now, sometimes when you're in a certain situation, that situation may not have, let's say, as many lessons in it for you as it might have for someone else in the situation, but it's still an orchestration because you're willing to participate in it in order to be of service, to allow whoever needs to get something more out of it, to get something more out of it. So this is what I mean, is you can unconsciously participate. I mean, let's say you're stuck in a traffic jam. Well, you're there because there's a reason for that traffic jam to someone, someone may have been rushing at 80 miles an hour down the freeway, and if they had kept doing so, they would have gotten into an accident and died by orchestrating a traffic jam. They now can't so you may never know why that kind of orchestration happened. You can try and get some lessons out of it. You can say, Well, okay, maybe this is a sign I need to slow down in life. Maybe I am rushing into things. Maybe I need to take some time to look around me and see who's around and who's next to me, and feel the connections I have to other members of my society and so on and so forth. You can start looking at it that way, and you will start learning things about it that way. But you can also realize I may be here because I'm simply willing to be of service to others who may be getting more out of this experience than I am at the moment, but that's okay, because I'm doing this to be service to them, to help them get what they need. It's not about me, it's about them. So you have to start looking at life as an orchestration in order to start seeing life and experiencing life from that perspective. And when you start doing that, you start realizing synchronicity is all over the place. It's everywhere. It's in everything. It is space times way of showing you that it's all an orchestration, that it's all connected, there are no accidents,

Jannecke Øinæs 47:29

which means also there are no coincidences at all. I love that, but I also loved how you explained that. I've never heard it. Heard it in that way. I've heard, sort of some channelers say, you know, not everything is pre planned or orchestrated. There are some things that are not like, for instance, me dropping this pen right now

Darryl Anka 47:52

what, of course, what they mean is, as a soul, you put certain challenges on your life path, those are pre planned. There may be a few different ways of experiencing those things, maybe at a different timing, maybe on a different scale, maybe with different props. So yes, we're not saying, Okay, I'm going to pick up this pencil now, and I pre plan to do something like that, you use the props that are available to you, but the idea is, maybe, what do you do with that pencil? Is it something that allows you to learn that you have the ability to draw something beautiful? That would be the pre planned thing, whether you picked up a pencil, a pen or a paintbrush, probably doesn't matter. You use what's available as a set of props to accomplish what the soul laid out as an expression of creativity in your life, and artistic expression, that's what's planned out. But there may be a variety of ways that that can be done, and a variety of scale and scope upon which it can be experienced. Do you draw a picture just for your friend and lighten up their life by receiving that as a gift? Do you make paintings that millions of people see that changes their life because of how it looks? So do you do it now? Do you do it later. Do you slowly? Do you do it quickly? How many people do you affect? How many expressions of your passion do you put out there? And in what way you have the free will to determine how you will experience the challenges that you as a soul laid out on your life, but the soul's Free Will choices to have those experiences, to have those challenges, are what we typically refer to as our destiny. We can't change what the soul has decided it needs to learn as a lesson for its growth, but we have the freedom as the physical version of our souls to determine how. We will experience that challenge positively, negatively, happily, sadly, with great gusto. With you know on we quickly, slowly. It's up to us to determine how we experience it, but we will face that challenge in some way, shape or form, because that's what our soul decided it needed for its true growth.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:24

That makes sense. I want to jump over to reality. Many speak about a split coming up, right? Well, I'm going there because many speak about that we have our own reality. We on that the last time as well. And then we also hear the talk about a split, like two realities together.

Darryl Anka 50:52

Okay. The idea is, look, we're interacting right now, you and I. You're not interacting directly with me. Are you? You're interacting with an electronic recreation of my sound and my image, right? You're not seeing me directly. This is the way reality is actually structured. It's structured holographically. When you are even face to face with a person, you are interacting directly with a soul, but you're not actually seeing them directly. You are creating in your reality your version of them. You have no idea whether or not your version of them is the same as their version of themselves. They may see themselves very differently and experience themselves very differently, and they may see you very differently and experience you very differently than you experience yourself. So we each have our own reality in which we use our consciousness and our energy to create our versions, our representations of other beings we are interacting with on a higher level, but these physical representations are like what we are experiencing right now in this conversation. They are simulations, in a sense, they are avatars, in a sense, and we use these to then create the kind of reality that we prefer and populate it with the versions of everyone else that are commensurate with the reality we believe in most strongly To be true. So where our versions of reality are similar, we can interact in the way that we're interacting right now, where they're not similar at all. There's no interaction people that interact with others whose vibration is not at all similar to the mass consensus. Are called crazy. It doesn't mean they're not actually interacting with someone. It's just that the mass consensus can't see them because their vibration is too different from what we collectively agree should be the reality that we're sharing or experiencing, but we're all each only creating that reality for ourselves as an interface based on an agreement of what we say is important for us to experience as reality At this moment. Does this make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 53:41

A little bit. Okay, you explained it to me the last time as well. And I'm still my mind is like, that's okay. That's okay. Really getting it comes to the split between 3D and 5d

Darryl Anka 53:55

Oh, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a misunderstanding that people have. 5D is non physical, totally non physical. That's the spirit realm. Okay, we can use our connection to the spirit realm, because we're souls, to uplift our vibration as third density people, to bring us into fourth density, which is still physical. Fourth density is a higher frequency of physical reality of the physical dimension. We can use fifth dimensional, fifth density energy to elevate us because of our connection to that energy as souls. But we're not splitting into fifth density, unless you die, then you go into fifth density, then you're non physical. You're a spirit. Again, you're a soul. But the idea of the split that Bashar is talking about is that as each of us chooses what to believe is true for ourselves and for reality, we can. Start to diverge more and more and more, like we're sort of seeing on the planet right now, where people believe one thing to be absolutely true, and someone else may believe to be exactly the opposite, to be absolutely true. And I'm talking not about the idea of just being in denial of the truth. I'm talking about things that people are referring to as things like the Mandela effect, where I remember one history and you remember something else, completely different, and both of us actually have a real memory of those two completely different realities or histories. This is because we are deciding how to be a part of the collective conscious consensus about, what is our history, what is our reality? And therefore, those that start diverging and choosing, for whatever reason, something that is too different from what another person believes, they're starting to diverge into different reality streams, into different timelines. In a sense, right now, we allow our timeline to contain multiple differences, but eventually, as we continue to diverge in the years ahead, we will probably only experience something that is similar in vibration to what we believe to be true, each of us. So we may no longer interact with people who believe something too differently from us. They will no longer literally appear in our reality at all. So the idea is, that's what he's defining as the split is it's how you create a reflection that is true for you, that may not be vibrationally compatible with what is true for someone else, to the point where, right now, we can see each other's vibrations, but eventually we may not be able to, and that's the split he's talking about, is the experience our projection of reality may be so different from someone else's that we can no longer even see a representation of them in our reality. We can no longer create a representation of them in our reality, it would be as if you were operating on a certain frequency in this program that's allowing us to interact with each other stream yard, and I was operating on a completely different frequency, and we couldn't suddenly see each other at all. It was as if the technology diverged, the frequency of the technology, the style of the technology, started to diverge enough that you would start to lose my reception, and I would start to lose your reception, and then we would not be able to interact. Right now we're both using what we believe to be a version of a technology called stream yard that is sufficient to allow us to interact,

Jannecke Øinæs 58:10

fascinating and sort of from a higher perspective, they will exist at the same time.

Darryl Anka 58:16

Everything exists now, because again, again, I understand this as a heady concept, and we use the analogy of a hologram to sort of explain it. It's not a full explanation, but everything exists in the same moment. There is only one moment in existence, and that's now. It's always now. No matter what you do, it's always now. And that is a real truth. It is always here and it is always now, no matter where you are, no matter when you are, it's never then. It's never will be. It's always here and it's always now. The idea is extended to the concept of reducing space and time to their simplest components, which is sort of what science does when they're looking for a unified theory of everything, they're looking for one equation that explains everything, which means it's a reductive theory, which means that they have to reduce how something is explained to the point where you can then explain everything from the same single equation, so to speak. Well, metaphysics is no different. And if you're going to reduce things, you have to reduce space and time as well. And the full reduction of space is a single, dimensionless point, and the full reduction of time is a single, timeless now. So that translates as here and now. Everything exists in that single here and now. A moment I understand our language can be confusing when I use the word moment, but what we perceive therefore as different places and different moments. It's the same moment from another angle, another point of view, because there is only one moment to perceive. There is only one place to see, but looking at that single place and that single moment in time from a different angle, a different perspective, creates the experience of different moments in time, different places in space, again, like a hologram. A hologram is a photograph, a three dimensional photograph, but when you look at the hologram itself, not the picture on it, but the physical hologram itself. It's just a flat piece of celluloid. There's there's no dimensionality to it at all. The only reason it's that you see a three dimensional object in the hologram is because of the way it was captured. Because when you illuminate it from a different angle, you see a different side of the three dimensional object. But all the information of that object is imprinted in that holographic film everywhere. So it depends on the angle you illuminate the hologram from with your eyes. That allows you to see what appears to be a different angle of the three dimensional object that was initially photographed. But all that information is in the same place on the hologram. It's all overlapping, and it only depends on how you're looking at it that determines what side of that three dimensional object you see. So I'm saying reality is structured like that.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:48

It is so intelligent, my goodness. So what can we look forward to if we apply the five steps formula as humans, and will that be us, then opening up to this fourth density that you refer to

Darryl Anka 1:02:04

absolutely because when you act on your passion, what does it do? It raises your frequency. When you raise your frequency, what happens? It makes you a better receiver and a better antenna for higher frequency communication and information. Remember, you can only perceive what you are the vibration of it's like Einstein said, You cannot necessarily solve a problem from the same level of thinking in which the problem was created. You have to go to another level. So acting on your passion raises your frequency and makes you capable, capable of even having thoughts that exist on a higher level to bring you the information you need when you need it, that helps you move forward in life in a positive, constructive, joyful, fulfilling way. So acting on the five steps, acting on the instruction manual of the formula, allows you to experience a life of more synchronicity, more positive experience, more freedom to be who you really are, more creativity, more love, more joy and being really who you are as a soul, allowing more of your soul to express itself through your physical form. That's what it does. It makes your life more effortless. It doesn't mean you stop doing things. It just means that when you do them, you're doing acts of love, acts of joy. You enjoy what you're doing. You can't wait to get up in the morning and start doing it again and again and again. You start being of service to others by being a living example of what they can do too. And they come and ask, what are you doing? What's your secret? How are you living so happily? What are you doing? How is it that it's supporting you in life? Because, again, it brings you everything you need automatically, because your soul is already putting out that vibration that will attract everything you need automatically, if you just clean out your attic of negative and fear based beliefs and get out of the way. So it's not something you have to learn to do. It's something you have to allow to happen, but you have to take the actions in physical reality to demonstrate your willingness and commitment to allow it to happen, because this is a physical experience. You can't just wish it into being. You have to act it into being, because you are a physical being, and action is the language of physical reality. You have to combine energy and physical action to manifest so manifest who you truly are by taking the actions that are representative of the actions you would be taking if you already lived in the world that you prefer to live in, then you're demonstrating to others what that world looks like, and they can then mirror you as well, and you then suddenly surround yourself with more people doing the same thing, thinking in similar ways, and humanity. Then evolves in a unified direction. It doesn't mean everyone is the same. I'm not talking about homogenizing humanity. Unity is actually the product of the validation of all the true differences between us, differences that are beneficial and unique, that give us different perspectives. So it's not about flattening everything out. It's about validating all the differences and allowing those differences to work together in a beneficial way. That's what the formula allows you to experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:37

I have some final questions.

Darryl Anka 1:05:39

Sure.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:39

Are we created out of love? Is love what we are

Darryl Anka 1:05:45

my understanding in bashar's interpretation, is that what we call unconditional love is the actual frequency of existence itself. That's how we interpret that frequency. So we are immersed in that vibration that we interpret as unconditional love and support, it doesn't have a mind of its own. It supports us unconditionally in whatever we choose to believe is true for us. We are allowed that freedom. We are allowed that power to choose, and whatever we choose, negative or positive, we are unconditionally supported and loved in that choice. So yes, we're immersed in the vibration of existence, which we interpret as unconditional love and support

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:33

beautiful what is the most important question we can ask ourselves at these times?

Darryl Anka 1:06:40

Why? Why do I believe what I believe? Let me examine why I believe what I say I believe is true. Because very often, when you dig down into the why, you find that you sometimes don't really have a good reason for believing what you say you believe in you may have picked it up from someone else. It may have nothing to do with you. I would always ask why? To be certain that what you say you prefer to believe in is actually something that benefits you, and you're not just parroting a belief you picked up along the way.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:16

What is the deepest spiritual insight you feel you have received from Bashar?

Darryl Anka 1:07:21

Well, definitely the formula, because that changes everything. It's literally a toolkit that you apply and get a physical change in your life. And to me, that's the most profoundly powerful gift that he could have given us. Is something that actually affects your physical reality experience in a beneficial way. No one has to believe that Bashar is real. I can't prove it. This could be coming from another level of my own consciousness. I don't know. But of course, when open contact occurs, we'll have all the proof of extraterrestrials we need. But that's not the reason why I do this. It's because people constantly come back to me and say, hey, when I applied bashar's formula in my life, everything changed in the most wonderful way. So the idea is, if you apply the information, you prove to yourself the information actually works. It actually has an effect. And I can't think of anything more important than having something that actually gives you a physical effect, that your life has changed for the better. So to me, that's the most profound piece of information, you know, aside from, I mean, there's depth to it, because within the formula, the deeper exploration of it is understanding how beliefs work, how we change them, what they're all about, how they perpetuate themselves, all those kinds of things go with it. What I've given you are the five steps as a surface representation. But when I say one of the steps is examine your beliefs and let them go, that implies a very deep amount of information about what beliefs are, why they're created, how they're changed, and all the things that go with that. So it's a deep understanding of how our psychology works in physical reality and how we can use it to our benefit when we apply the formula. But it goes much deeper than the surface representation I've just given you today.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:21

And my final questions that I ask everyone, and I asked the last time as well, maybe I get a different answer. What is self love to you?

Darryl Anka 1:09:29

Daryl, self love is knowing yourself as fully as possible, as an aspect and a reflection of source. And if you exist and you are worthy in the eyes of source just by the fact that you exist because it needs you to exist in order for it to be all that it can be. Then if it needs you. That much and loves you that much, that you need to be a part of it. Why argue with it? Why not give that to yourself? Why not recognize that you are worthy and deserving of loving yourself in the same way that source is supporting and unconditionally loving you. Why would you argue with it? You will never win that argument. It can't stop supporting you. It can't stop loving you unconditionally. So self love is simply the recognition of sources love for you, without arguing for the opposite.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:41

I love that. And what is the deepest meaning of life from your perspective,

Darryl Anka 1:10:48

the meaning of life, the deepest meaning of life, ironically and paradoxically, is that it has no built in meaning. In other words, everything is a set of neutral props until you give it meaning. You are designed to give life meaning, and the meaning you give it determines the effect and experience you get out of it. So the deepest meaning of life is that life has no built in meaning. It's your job to give it meaning and give it the experience that is determined by the meaning you've given it. That's the irony.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:23

Thank you so much, Darrel, now if people really want to dive deeper into Bashar as teaching, could you guide them? Where can they go?

Darryl Anka 1:11:32

They can go to bashar.org, B, A, S, H, A, R.org. Everything that Bashar has talked about, or at least most everything, is there that can be accessed, and an indication of all the events coming up where he will deliver more information is also listed there. So bashar.org would be the place to go to find out anything about that. In the upcoming year or so, we'll be also teaching a class about bashar's information, I myself will be teaching that I've begun to teach bits and pieces of that class in different live events that I've done around the country, but I'll be putting that all together, and that will give people an opportunity in joining that class to go deeper into The different aspects of the formula and all of Bashar is teaching. Because, again, you know, in any interview like this, or any 90 minute event that Bashar channels you can only go so far, the class will be hours and hours of really digging deeply into that information so that people can really walk away understanding and using and applying that information in a very real way. And again, when those classes are available, it will be announced at bashar.org so you can check in there as well.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12:55

Amazing. And I also want to announce that you can also meet Darrel and even myself at the Sedona Ascension Retreat in March 2026 and you can also buy tickets online, I've heard. Thank you so much, Darryl, this is always such a joy, and I learn so much each time. It's so tangible, it's so concrete, and I love that. Thank you so much for spending time with me and coming to the show, and also for your amazing work,

Darryl Anka 1:13:21

absolutely and thank you for yours, without which this information wouldn't be getting out there in the same way. So I appreciate that, and thank you for having me on. It's always a pleasure.