Channeler Lee Carroll and author Monika Muranyi reveal a powerful truth: the current global chaos is the last gasp of an old energy system. They share a hopeful vision for humanity’s future, rooted in our deep cosmic past. This shift, they explain, is part of a collective consciousness change driven by a divine plan—one that involves a profound Pleiadian DNA Activation that has been 200,000 years in the making.
A Battle of Old and New Energy
Lee Carroll, a former engineer turned channeler for the angelic entity Kryon, notes that the planet is in a battle, but the light is winning. Despite what the news reports, the old energy of control, fear, and war is facing its final stand. This period of intense polarization is a sign that humanity is moving off a repeating timeline of history and onto a new, more compassionate one. We are seeing a global shift in consciousness, especially among younger generations, as more people awaken and choose to focus on peace and unity.
The Science of a Pleiadian DNA Activation
Monika Muranyi explains that we are not alone in this journey. Ancient wisdom from indigenous cultures around the world and Kryon’s channeling both point to our origins from the Pleiades. This cosmic lineage is backed by modern science, which observed a precise and intentional chromosomal change in humans 200,000 years ago, a shift that enabled our capacity for empathy and compassion.
According to Kryon, we have a 24th multidimensional chromosome from our star family that has been dormant. This chromosome is now ready to be activated. The Earth herself is a collaborating partner in this shift, holding ancient “time capsules” of energy and light left by the Pleiadians. These portals are now broadcasting transmissions to help humanity. This is the Pleiadian DNA Activation happening now. The energy contains solutions for the next 4,000 years, waiting for humanity to receive them.
Ultimately, Lee and Monika’s message is that our intent is the key to receiving this help. By consciously giving permission for this activation to occur, we can choose to move past the old barbaric era of war and align with the divine plan for humanity’s ascension. The time to change and ascend is now.
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Transcript of the interview
Monika Muranyi 0:00
Planet were seeded by those from the stars The Pleiadians, 200,000 years ago, when they came, they imbued these portals of energy that would stay dormant until humanity decided to move onto a path of ascension, graduation status. So we have help coming
Lee Carroll 0:24
The light on this planet is actually winning, and it's not being reported. The control that leaders have over us and the way they want it to work on the planet, and the economies and the way they work and the way monies work and banks work, it just doesn't change. And so there are the poor and the rich, and that doesn't change, and you can see how that's been for hundreds and hundreds of years, until now. You're looking at the wars that are here. Those are the last gasp efforts of the old energy to pull this planet in, back into darkness. Prine has actually said, this may be a period of time you look back on and say, the last wars, how many of you are polarized politically? How many of you have the courage to say, I want to look at both sides and send love to them, all of them, because they both need it so they'll be less polarized. That's mastery. What the important thing is of life. You are not a victim of the planet.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:31
Lee and Monica. A warm welcome to the show.
Monika Muranyi 1:37
So delighted to be here. Jannecke, we are here for inviting us. Yeah,
Jannecke Øinæs 1:41
I'm super delighted to have you here. I've known of your work for such a long time. You're doing incredible work. And I mean, Lee, you've been doing this ever since, I think it was 1989 you have been channeling Kryon, who is an angelic entity who have messages of peace and harmony, and this has helped hundreds of 1000s of people across the globe, and especially now in the shift of consciousness we find ourselves in. You've written tons of books, and also you Monica, and I'm really curious to learn how you got into this work and how you also partnered up, and then also to dive deep today about how we can raise our consciousness, how we can contribute to the light being more present in this world, in the time where we find ourselves in deep chaos. So I'd love to start with you. Lee, you, from what I heard, were an engineer and wasn't that deep into spirituality,
Lee Carroll 2:48
absolutely the the story is, for me, is long, and I'm not going to make it long just to say you're absolutely right. More than that, I will say to you that 36 years ago, I was brought from a very linear idea of what life was about and myself and all the things that an injure an engineer would believe, and really dragged into these things being a skeptic of everything has has shaped me to examine the things very closely that I teach. And so that's the attribute that was 36 years ago. The question I'm going to dodge it just for a moment, because I wanted everybody to understand, do you realize you're looking at a podcast today in a consciousness that never would have happened 36 years ago? We never had anything like this. Nobody was talking about these kinds of things to any kind of audiences at all. There was church and that was it. And so you had church programs as well. Today. The kind of podcast you're looking at right now, there's hundreds of them, and they are by young people and regular, I mean older people is it's universal that we're starting to see a shift of these kinds of interests, and that's what it is. When you see the following of this particular program, and you take a look at some of the others, it's amazing of how the interests are starting to change. So here you are, and I'm answering the question. And the question is, of course, about Kryon. This is a you pegged it very this is an angelic energy, and the first time I ever felt it, I'll never forget it, because I was convinced at the moment it happened. It's almost like an indeed experience, where I was literally taken to a love place. I knew that I was outside of my body. I felt things that I'd never felt before. I had overwhelming love come in and flow in and I saw truth, and that was the beginning. I can't ignore this. You just cannot ignore this. When these kinds of things happen to you, when you personally receive something like this, what I would like to tell everybody here is that my journey. I've always asked, Why am I here? What am I doing? What is this all about? Why channeling and crying has led me up to this crying? I have no idea why the name is cryon. Maybe it's just a joke. I'm ready for that, but if you take a look at why it's for now, we have a shift going on. Have you? Has anybody noticed anything a little different? And some say we're moving into another dimension. Some say we're just moving into higher consciousness. But almost everyone we talk to on almost every podcast says what's happening? Because it is different, way different from, let's say, 10 years ago, way different from even before that. That's why Kryon is here to help us understand it, negotiate it. And when you get to that question of really, truly, what's happening, I'll even be talking more and faster, because I get very, very excited.
Jannecke Øinæs 6:00
Thank you for sharing that and for me and the audience who is curious about Okay, so how are you channeling or how are you receiving the knowledge and the wisdom from crying? Is it something you are hearing? Are you seeing them? Are you feeling it? Just to understand how this communication is going on?
Lee Carroll 6:22
Thank you. It's a great question, because the people who don't know channeling, first of all, 36 years ago, it was, it was seen as well. The boy has diverted to the devil. Now he's doing these kinds of things. And this was like all of that today. It is not in fact, channeling is something that many people are doing very well accepted. Some are doing it simply on paper, and the answer to your question is not heard, it's not seen. It's almost like a very strong stream of intuition. How do you know things? I mean, when you when you sit and you have an intuitive flash, how do you describe that? It's very difficult. Now consider that I go into channel and it's I literally go to another page, and I have a stream of intuition that comes in, and I am then giving messages from, whatever you want to say, an angelic realm or the other side of the veil. I think that's a little too spectacular. I think I'm getting messages that have always been there from the creative source, which is in all of us. I think I'm just going into that place that all of us have, and that many people are journaling today and then writing things down and finding great wisdom in what they're writing. That's a form of channeling. So that's why, that's how it feels.
Jannecke Øinæs 7:38
Yeah, thank you for sharing. Yeah. I've definitely noticed that more and more people are popping up all over the place, starting to channel, receiving messages, noticing synchronicities, and people who were skeptic before are more curious today. So I can really feel that something is going on just by watching people around me. And I'm curious about you, Monica, because from what I understand, you had a lot of resistance towards this, but it was a divorce that made you open up to spirituality. Is that correct?
Monika Muranyi 8:12
That's absolutely correct. And we get into this belief of how our life should be, how things should go. And then every now and then, something will happen where you feel like the rug underneath you has been pulled away, and the world as you knew it fell away. For me, it was the end of my marriage. But for many others, there's other experiences where something happens that is so out of the blue, of where you think your life is headed, and also your future dreams and hopes are kind of pinned to this reality that you are in, and when that reality changes all of a sudden, there are questions that come to the surface that you don't have answers for, and so in that desire to seek answers for that which we cannot explain, that actually is giving permission for something to come to you that you didn't know. So our loving guides, our angels, spirit, whatever words and vocabulary you have for this angelic realm that's always around you wants to help you, but you need to give permission. As soon as you give permission. For Lee. It was a fleece to cry on, cry on, if you're there, show me that's how his experience happened for me, though, it was more about how, how did my reality change overnight, and I wasn't even aware of it so that. Seeking. There was cookie crumbs that I followed along the way, that eventually, when I decided to follow these crumbs, many things happened. So for over 15 years, I was a ranger in the national parks, and my my husband was in the national park system as well. So I was very happy and complete with this life that I had, but I was limited in understanding a bigger truth that I'm now aware of. And back then, I honest. This is honestly what I thought there were so many environmental problems in my day to day job that I saw that the root cause of it was humans and how humans were treating the earth and all of the environmental issues, pollution, deforestation, threatened species and the extinction of threatened species because of our actions. So in my naive belief, honestly, this is what I thought, we just have to get rid of most of the people so that we can save the planet. What a terrible thing to think but honestly, I was so passionate about our beautiful earth and how she should be flourished and cherished, and all the magical things that she has should be preserved and protected and nurtured. But when I followed those cookie crumbs to try and discover, for me, the bigger reason as to why these things and my reality had shifted and changed so much. It led me to move to New Zealand, and in my first yoga class, someone gave me a Kryon book. Now when I read it, I had so many tingles and sensations and chills reading this book. But part of the resistance you spoke of is that when you have a very strong logical mind that operates in 3d and it's your survival tool, as soon as you start getting these uncomfortable sensations about invisible energies. It's very easy for your logical mind to counter in with the chatter to tell you why this can't exist, why this can't be real, why everyone else can feel energy that you want to feel but you can't, and so your logic is telling me, Well, then it doesn't exist, even though you have this inkling that it does. So that was part of the resistance, because of the logic and the intellect always wanting to come in and try and reduce things that are multi dimensional into a linear structure. For example, what is love? Can you show me where love exists? And if you ask this from your logic and intellect, it will give you. Love is just chemical reactions. It's this that the other it won't actually be able to describe something that is a felt perception through your entire body, beyond what you can physically describe. So once we get past that resistance to trying to reduce things to a linear fashion, that's where we can really start having some breakthroughs and experiences that are beyond three dimensional logic that can be explained in a linear way. So obviously, the words of Kryon and then following the messages opened me up to seeing things from a different perspective, a different lens. And part of why I loved kryons messages is because I came from that background within the national parks, and Kryon started to describe that the Earth had a sentience. It was connected to humans and to humanity, and that it was a collaborating partner with human consciousness that completely changed my understanding of solving our environmental problems to get rid of humans, that's not the answer. The answer is awakening humans to the remembrance of who they truly are, their authentic true selves. Ourselves, and in that authentic, true self, you have a partnership and a connection to the planet. You are aligned with the earth. And when you go back and look at the ancients and the indigenous ancestors and the harmony that they lived in with the planet. This kind of gives us this appreciation for how you can be in harmony and balance with the Earth, harmony and balance with community and harmony and balance within your own personal connection to yourself. So that, for me, was what happened, what opened me up. And, of course, the first book that I wrote with the Kryon material and asking questions to Kryon was the Gaia effect, because I felt so passionate about sharing. Oh, everyone should know this. I mean, I feel everyone working in the environmental field. Should know, hey, by the way, the earth that you're working for and the resources you're wanting to manage is connected to you. I think that would be a big game changer. And part of this great shift that we are in is awakening to bigger truths that we weren't necessarily taught when we grew up in our cultures and the environments that we come from, in all backgrounds. Yeah,
Jannecke Øinæs 16:32
beautiful, very inspiring, and you're pointing to something important, I feel like the resistance and the perception, because I was thinking today that, I mean, we're living in a world that's in a crisis in many ways, and things are here heightening and heating up, and we see so much polarity. And then I'm thinking about just myself, how I've been working on changing my belief systems about what's possible for me manifest, you know, beautiful life, and I had to look deeply at my beliefs. And at first that was not easy, because they were so stuck, because I was raised in a world that told me certain truths and things that I believed in, like in Norway, we have something called the Yom Telo that is sort of the opposite of what American have was like, you know, take up space and show who you are. We have the opposite, like, do not shine. Do Do not think you are anything. Just be similar as everybody else that is ingrained in our system and in the world. We have so many different belief systems, and many of them go 1000s of years back. So when we look at that, how hard it is for me to change my belief systems and others, is that sort of the root of the issue that we see in the world today, that we are so hung up on our beliefs, on how we see the world, and what is sort of the solution to that. And then I'm thinking, I mean, I know this is a long question, but can we do it as humans alone, or do we need help from the outside in order to shift this perception we collectively have that is basically based on fear.
Monika Muranyi 18:23
I love the question. There is so much to go into it. I we think we could be here for a week to explore all of these
Lee Carroll 18:33
issues in question, in my way, yes, if you wish to. The first of all, I'm I would like to tell you your cultural beliefs, my cultural beliefs, how we grew up and where we are. That's not the issue. Yes, we have many cultural beliefs, and they're all over the planet, and they're sometimes diametrically opposed to one another. As far as how you should act, what we have been told is that mastery is the key. Love is the common denominator for all of it, and it doesn't really matter if you want to shine or not shine. That's really not the issue mastery. If you want to take a look at what it is and how we act and how we work on it, mastery does not react. It observes. That's just one of the four aspects of it, you can follow all the four aspects of mastery no matter what culture you are, and it won't change any part of your culture. We are different, and we are not supposed to be amalgamated. We are not supposed to the have one culture. We can we can have all manner of beliefs about how we act and what's happening and all this is long as the key is going to be a change of consciousness that makes all of us more compassionate. So if I go to your country and you go to mine, instead of us, perhaps laughing at each other because of the way we act or what do we do? What's important to us, there becomes a whole different attitude of love and say, Isn't this cool, that they are doing this and that. And I love these people, and I just, I just really love the way they are this and that I've been all over the world, I've learned to do this, and it's just, it's beautiful, and they've learned to do it with me, and it's beautiful. So we're not supposed to change our cultures. We're supposed to change the dimensionality, I would say, of our consciousness. It's going to start moving toward a more compassionate consciousness. It's going to eventually land in our leadership, eventually, not now. It's another subject, and you didn't ask me for it, but we are in the middle of a battle. The battle isn't between cultural differences. The battle is between a very old energy on the planet and the new energy that's coming in of compassion doesn't really have much to do with with our cultures as much as the way things used to be. There's a shift going on on the planet, and I'll just get right to it, if you don't mind. And this shift is part of the answer to your question. Gregg Braden wrote a book many years ago called fractal time, and this book explained why time repeats itself, and it does. It's almost like the old energy of the centuries doesn't change. And so the control that leaders have over us and the way they want it to work on the planet, and the economies and the way they work and the way monies work and banks work, it just doesn't change. And so there are the poor and the rich, and that doesn't change. And you can see how that's been for hundreds and hundreds of years until now, there has been a sighting on that track, you might say, that goes around in a circle called time, and in repeating itself and and history. And that track is a new one. You might say that we got off the circle of time, repeating itself, and now we're on a new track we've never been on before. This was predicted by the ancients. This is not something new. This is not a new age kind of prediction. This is something that Kryon talked about in his first book. This is something that the Mayan talked about, the Hopi Indians in America talked about, we are looking at something that was actually on target and scheduled. It's even in Scripture, in certain ways, looking for the years of 2000 for the coming back of Christ, and all of this was going to be absolute, massive consciousness change, whether it was going to be the end of the world, whether it was going to be World War Three, whether it was going to be the rapture, or whether it was going to be a change of consciousness that we are now right in the middle of. And that means old energy and new energy are at odds. Now you're looking at the polarization. That's why you're looking at the wars that are here. Those are the last gasp efforts of the old energy to pull this planet in, back into darkness, and then the same old, same old Cry has actually said, this may be a period of time you look back on and say the last wars, because the public, I would say, of the planet itself, now that we have the internet, now that we have this kind of power to podcast, and all will come to a point where it will demand peace. And the things that you want for your children in your culture, no matter what you are taught to act, are the same things we want for ours. We want them to go to school. We want them to have good, good lives. We want them to have love in their life. We want to be able to eat. This is this is worldwide, anywhere you go, any country you go. Now, if that's what we all want, why are we at odds? Then you get into belief systems, as you were told. It really comes down to a belief system that starts to move toward, not animosity toward each other, but compassion toward each other. That's where we're going. The light on this planet is actually winning, and it's not being reported this podcast, this this podcast is one little tiny chink of that light that's starting to show if you started listening the podcast, one of the things you're going to see right away is they're not being given by wise old people like me. They're being given by young people and people who are alive and starting to awaken. That never happened in my generation. It just didn't that this is one of the things I can see. Consciousness is changing, and it's starting to push against the old energy. And one of the chief old energies is the news. What you watch on television worldwide is a is more of an entertainment than journalists, and they're they're invested. You buying things. That's what they're invested in, not not the news. And so they will give the worst news possible. First they'll get you fearful, so you'll continue watching. And then they'll show products. This is the old, old energy. So the first thing I tell people is, don't watch the news. Get it written by real journalists who are not that it's not scored with music and has ads in it, those kinds of things, and you're more likely to have a better snapshot of what's happening on the world. But still, they're not reporting what you are doing if you if you look at it, they're not reporting the results of your program and the people who are changed by your program and hundreds of others like your program. So this is what's going on, a little bit on the earth. We're in a battle now, and we're feeling it, and we're seeing it.
Jannecke Øinæs 25:52
Hey guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the wisdom from North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes. And my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness, to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below, and now let's go back to the episode. Yeah, because I wasn't thinking that much of cultural differences. More than that, I've learned that we have a negative bias, like as humans, and I've heard you speak about that our DNA is changing so, so we're opening up to our multi dimensionality. And what I'm curious about is, then, are we then receiving help in order to switch this negative bias, like on a global scale, to a positive bias, because I can hear my mind is chattering away with negative stuff. And then you, if you amplify that, well, then we see the control and the wars and people who are hurting others, you know, to a big degree, if you go over to the other poll. So to say so, being a human, I feel like human is in conflict in itself, and I think we're seeing that also on the outside, and that's why we're doing spiritual work right, to try to be the best version of ourselves and to become more who we are and come to that inner peace. But it's a long journey, so I'm thinking, Are we receiving help, like energetically? Yes,
Monika Muranyi 27:52
I would love to answer that.
Lee Carroll 27:55
The answer is yes, yes.
Monika Muranyi 27:57
I love this question, and you began with talking about is the DNA changing. And I want to say that we've always had the DNA within humanity that has been unchanged for at least 200,000 years. But this is where I want to talk about the amazing thing that science has begun to see that Kryon has always talked about. Now this may challenge some belief systems that those watching this have about our creation story. So let me present it to you in a way that you can follow along. Kryon has said that the divine humans on our planet were seeded by those from the stars, and gives the name the Pleiades, the Pleiadians, when it was appropriate, they came to our planet 200,000 years ago to create the type of humans on the earth that have the spark of God inside now, when you follow the creation stories of the indigenous and from my country, I live in Australia, well, I live in the US now with leave It my home country was Australia, and they have the anunnu who live right in the middle of our country at a place called Uluru, this beautiful, monolithic Red Rock. And it's very sacred to them. And their creation story is that from the Seven Sisters, they even have a 3000 mile long song line through the desert that tells the creation story of the Seven Sisters, and it came from the Pleiades, the cluster of stars. When you go to Hawaii, the ancient Hawaiians also talk about. The Seven Sisters and the Pleiades. When you go to New Zealand, Aotearoa, they also have a creation story of the Seven Sisters. If you go to all of the Native American tribes within America, they also have the story of the Seven Sisters. Now, none of these indigenous tribes knew each other, they are geographically separated, and yet they have this commonality of the creation stories. Then the interesting thing I discovered when I was visiting a Hindu monastery on Kauai is that there was a gentleman there who channeled a book, and within that book, he also said that we came from the Pleiades. So now you have one of the oldest religious belief systems on the planet also saying that we come from the creation stories. Let's turn the page and have a look at what science has observed. 200,000 years ago, there was something that took place within the chromosomes of humans, where we went to a 23 pair chromosome human, and what they're noticing is that chromosome number two has an ancient relic of a telomere to telomere fusion with precision and accurate accuracy that took place 200,000 years ago. Why is that significant? Well, chromosomes have telomeres on the ends of them. So to have a chromosome where telomeres had been fused together in the middle suggests that something took place and two chromosomes with similar features overlapped and fused together, and the significance of this created a enlarged brain, the ability for memory, learning, empathy and compassion that did not exist prior to this time. So this has been observed in science, and you can read about it by a book from Greg Braden, and it's called human by design. That was the original publication. When they did a reprint, they changed the title to the science of self empowerment, but it's still that same information of peer reviewed science noticing something took place 200,000 years ago with intention and precision, which suggests we did not evolve from here. That was the suggestion. Now they're not able to say what it was that happened, but this is where, when we turn to the indigenous and the Hindu and what Cryan has said that something was that we were visited by those from the stars. Now, not only has Kryon said that we received that from our star family, we actually have a 24th chromosome pair, but it is multi dimensional and not viewable by the current instruments we have to measure and observe. Now I say current because crane has also made a prediction that in the future, when we receive the quantum lens, we will be able to see and detect multi dimensional fields within humans, and this will completely change our belief systems in the same way when Galileo looked and observed that we actually are in a solar system where we all move and rotate around the sun, not the other way around. Can you imagine what that did when you had that scientific observation, how it totally changed almost overnight, the thinking of how we operated and existed in the universe. I mean, it was so controversial. Galileo was under house arrest. How dare he try and upset the school of thought and the philosophy and the doctrines of the day with this observation. So again, this 24th chromosome pair, multi dimensional from the stars, is within us. Now, we mentioned earlier that there's a great awakening, a great shift happening. And we talked about remembering your own divinity. This is the mechanism within us that allows for us to receive this information. And the beautiful thing about what is happening right now, if you think of. This kind of 24th chromosome that it's been somewhat dormant. It's been primed and ready to awaken. It has little antenna on it that is wanting to receive broadcasts and transmissions, and it is why you are designed for receiving multi dimensional information, and it's coming from Time Capsules within guy. We talked about guy being a partnership. And the Seven Sisters, the Pleiadians, those from the stars 200,000 years ago, when they came they imbued into the earth these portals of energy that would stay dormant until humanity decided that it wanted to move onto A path of ascension, graduation status. This is that collective Do you want to move into the energy that you have set up for yourself that was the trigger for the shift to begin and that we would receive help in enacting our decision as a collective to move through that test of consciousness that yes, we do want to evolve into our ascended selves and choose that path. So we have help coming from these portals of information, light and energy being broadcast onto the grids of the earth. And what does that contain? It contains, probably the inventions for the next 4000 years to come. It's all laying there in this soup of energy waiting for humanity to receive that intuitive information and then go and create and develop all of the solutions to give us all of the resources that we need in a very elegant way. What we are waiting for
Monika Muranyi 37:14
is to have all of humanity recognize that the idea of killing any other human is not even conscionable Once we stop that idea of wanting to conquer and grab and use other resources, once we move past this barbaric era which, as Lee said, We're facing those last gasp efforts of an old energy when we no longer want to weaponize any inventions, that is the moment we are going to have a blossoming of inventions that will help steer us into areas Where we are able to have resources without depleting those from the earth. We will be in partnership with Gaia, and we will have, as Lee said, that mastery that's inside of us, that compassion, the tolerance, the kindness a society where we think of our collective what can we do? How can we serve? How can we create? How can we weave together a dream of creation and imagination and inspiration for all of us? So, yes, we have so much help coming to us. I haven't even talked about the solar system yet, because we also have, you know, the solar flares that come these are energetic upgrades that we are receiving, there is so much help now, what do can we do to receive this help? Your intent? Your intent is the key. The energy of allowance and permission will grant these things to you which are wanting to come to you. So yes, there is more hope than ever before. The shift is happening. We are awakening. It's the reason we have this beautiful podcast with you, and that we're even having this conversation today, and I would be just love to hear all of the awakening stories of everyone in your audience that has come to these because each one of us has this incredible, treasured journey of what cracked US Open to look at things we maybe not have looked at when we were younger.
Jannecke Øinæs 39:34
Yeah, that story that really resonates with me as well, and I've heard it before that actually, we are so connected to the play agents. Yes, Lee,
Lee Carroll 39:45
I was going to say you mentioned that there's this dark and light side in all of us. And there truly is, in the name of that, is duality, and we've all had it and it, it is something we this is the proof of what Monica is saying. People are starting. To change and understand how to temper that, how to move out of that, that fight that we have inside of all of us. One of the best things that I had ever heard and that I now do is that you you, you can't have fear at the same time you're giving gratitude. And one of the things that people are starting to do now, and you get up in the morning, this is when it starts racing through your mind, what's what's wrong today? What's going to happen today? Is it going to turn out all right? And what's wrong with everything else around me? And and then you get into expectations and perceptions of negativity, and the duality starts to kick in, and that's what you're talking about. So this thing that I do, and many people do, is I put my feet on the floor in the morning and I say, I have at least three things I am grateful for, and I'm going to list them, and I'm going to thank spirit there in my life, my health, my partner, or whatever, all of the good stuff that's there. And it starts to change your attitude immediately. Anytime I get into a situation where there might be fear or there, there could be disappointment, I go to that place, and this is us working with us. This is also you'd say, well, I've heard about this for years, and this is like the self help we have help now. What happens to me is I feel I'm uplifted as soon as I start doing that. I never felt that before. I didn't feel that 10 years ago. There is a dimensional shift that actually supports a benevolent consciousness that we're starting to see, and that is why so many people who would watch your podcast are interested, are maybe even interested enough to be curious if this is accurate or true, whereas perhaps they wouldn't have been a few years ago. That's proof, I think, of the help we're getting when we actually feel better, when we start practicing these kinds of things. Is there love in there? Yes, there is, is there a way for me to be less negative? Yes, there is, is there a way for me not to complain as much or worry as much? Yes, there is. And this is why people are starting to pay attention to you, to others who have solutions, many guests, but I'll tell you, if you want to synopsize, what many of your guests are all saying, there's a shift going on. Love is the answer. Compassion is starting to appear, and there is help.
Jannecke Øinæs 42:40
Yeah, I so agree. And gratitude practice works like magic, because I just feel like I get more to be grateful for, and I think it's something we need to unlearn, just basically unlearn a lot of what we learned, and then train ourselves like train our minds to see the possibilities and lean into faith, because that is not something we will learn. We will learn through fear and protecting ourselves. And that is also a mechanism that I think is trying to protect us and keeping me alive, but it's like overactive and I think the more people who are doing that work, it will have the ripple effects of, you know, the collective consciousness,
Lee Carroll 43:24
yes, yeah, there is this as well. You mentioned. It is a change of perception. What were we told and what is actually available? The way we work in school is we go through layers of school. We learn certain things. We graduate. Suddenly, along comes spiritual helpers. In the past, you go through this course, and you go through that course and you learn this or that, you're going to have a better spiritual experience. It's called self help. This is what we do. It's a Larry. It's a very linear stair step approach. No one in my spiritual life ever said, Did you know there's an angelic realm? I've met them. There is an angelic realm standing next to you, representing your beautiful, magnificent soul. And they all have their hand out, and they say, why don't you ever ask us to help you? I realized long ago that I can simply drop in my heart and say the obvious, dear spirit, I'm having trouble with this today. Help me through this. One. Be my love today, change my mind i and then you, like you, took the hand of a grateful Angel, beautiful, and said, it was about time you did that, and you feel uplifted and helped. We're never really taught. We can go to source at every hour, every minute, and get help instead of asking, what course do I take? What stairs do I climb? And you know, what is the process I need to do where it's just there? It's there all the time.
Jannecke Øinæs 45:02
Yeah, you're so right. Oh gosh, time is flying. And I wanted to ask maybe if Cryan had a message for our audience today, it would be so lovely to hear from them.
Monika Muranyi 45:15
Beautiful. I love that you said them, because Kryon has always said, I'm a collective I'm not masculine or feminine. There is no gender on the other side of the veil. Often we call crying a hymn because we hear it through Lee's voice. But Kryon has this beautiful, divine, feminine, divine masculine energy. If you've never heard a cryon channel before know that Kryon is already aware who is listening. Kryon is aware of this collective and the message delivered is for all of us, and the best way to receive this message now is to make yourself completely comfortable, free yourself from any distractions so that you can really be present with the information from crying who also communicates with what is described as the third language. That third language is the energy of love. So let's just all be in a place of receptivity. I encourage you to open your heart, just relax. There's nothing to do, just simply sit and be loved.
Lee Carroll 46:33
Greetings, dear ones, I'm Kryon of Magnetic Service. Indeed, I know who's here. I know who's watching at any time, whether it's now or another now. And all that to say is this, are you aware the spirit, the creator, the angelic realm, whatever you call God knows your name in such a beautiful, magnificent way. Every single one of you is loved dearly. Every single one of you is starting to have an opportunity to take the hand, you might say, of that which you would call your higher self, or your soul, not another entity, not some saint somewhere, not some name in Scripture, but you, you have an eternal soul that is absolutely gorgeous, beautiful, and this is the main help that is starting to appear personally for you to get out of the fear, the grief, the sadness that perhaps some of you are feeling right now, for yourselves, for your family, for humanity, your soul features love and compassion and beauty. Your soul is set up for this time, this shift, to meet you, perhaps in a way that you never thought you could or were told was even possible. This soul of yours, that's the one that we say to you is always there. You might even sit sometime and say that, are you there? Show me you might call in. I need more love in my life. I need to to stop feeling afraid. And that soul of yours will say, I'm here for that. And that's why this particular shift features something else. Truly, there is a dimensional shift happening now. What does that have to do with anything? It's something that we really haven't taught much about, and we will the dimensions that you call your reality. There are so many of them, and you live in such a few and as the dimensionality of your reality starts to move into more dimensions, consciousness expands. The ability to grab a hold of things you never had before by your intent is there. Imagine grabbing a hold of peace when you never had it before. Or how about this? You stop worrying about things, and instead, you have a whole different idea as you look around, instead of fearing that thing that you see on the news, you say, what can I do to make it better? Maybe I'll send compassion to those involved, all of them, both sides. How many of you are polarized politically? How many of you have the courage to say, I want to look at both sides and send love to them, all of them, because they both need it so they'll be less polarized. That's mastery. That's what you're starting to love. Learn that's what the important thing is of life. You are not a victim of the planet. You're on purpose. You belong here. Most of you listening right now are old souls having gone through the school of lifetimes to get to this place where you can recognize truth, and you can recognize things that are beyond what you were told. We'll call it a grander truth of who or what is that which is the creator, lover of your soul. I'm crying in love with you, and so it is.
Jannecke Øinæs 50:47
Wow. Thank you so much. That was powerful. I've also come to understand the power of intention, how important that is, because when I set an intention and it just seems like it's steering my focus towards something, and that's where I'm going, and that the universe is listening to what intent I have, and that when I don't have an intention, I can sort of end up anywhere. Could you speak a little bit about that, how we could actually practice intention setting.
Monika Muranyi 51:24
I can't talk about intention setting without mentioning a beautiful woman that Lee and I both know. Her name is Lynn McTaggart, and she discovered the power of intention in a way that she can also measure, and she has created this program where you can join and participate and be part of her power of eight intention groups. There is something magical that unfolds when you are having a group intention for an outcome. So, as you said, when you set an intention, you kind of get pulled into that. And it's like a laser beam focus that aligns everything that we have within our field of potential around us that's working towards us. And there's tips and tools that Lynn will give towards how we can create intention, but the way that Lee and I have learnt from Kryon is that often the best intention we can have is to really communicate with spirit. With dear spirit. Tell me what I need to know, show me what I need to see, steer my life to the direction it needs to be dear spirit, bring me benevolence. And when we get into that state of intention, one of the keys we teach with intention and affirmations is to also have the energy of allowance. For when we have the energy of allowance, it allows this or something better to emerge, because often we can limit ourselves with our intention, where we have this intention, that I intend to have a new car, and it has to be this particular way, but if we intend to have I intend to have a vehicle of transport that serves my highest good in the most magnificent way, then you're open to other possibilities that are outside of what you limit yourself in. So intention is everything, but having the energy of allowance that goes with it opens you up to even more. And Lee, I want to throw it to you if there's other things you wish to add, because I know you always have some really good
Lee Carroll 54:02
there, truly is. Because what she said is she felt, I love this. You feel that what you intend actually said, the universe may be listening, and that's the direction you go. And when you don't intend, you feel that you're kind of without a rudder that is so powerful, because that's exactly what's happening, and I could explain the minutia of it, and I don't want to, because Kryon has actually talked about how it works. Picture this, just for a moment. Your consciousness now has been proven by many experiments, and Lynn talks about this. Lynn ratagard as energy. Consciousness is not mamby pamby stuff. It floats right. It's energy. Someday we'll be able to measure it with the tools that we'll have. But now we understand consciousness is energy, therefore you can manifest with it. And here's how it works, you cannot create your future. Grind has said over and over, and many have said, you have free choice. You're. Future is based upon whatever happens on the planet where you are, but you can, you can plan a situation for your life so you don't step in the potholes. There's a difference. So it's almost like others are going forward in their life, and it's they're in the dark and they're going to step in a pothole. Intent is the spotlight, and so the intent turns on the light so you can see left or right. I will not step in that pothole. I'll not read the wrong person. I'll go here, this person over there. Oh, I'm interested in that. My intuition says I had to meet that person. They have some Do you see how this works? You're not controlling your future. It's just that you turn the lights on and now you can see where you're stepping. This is the best metaphor I can give for how you are feeling. And that is correct when you give intent for things. And we do we this is what Monica constantly doing. This is we are tending for certain kinds of things that we want in our life. And I will tell you that it's almost like we drew them on a piece of paper and they're there, and they happen, and we cross them off onto the next one. This really works. We have a course in in intuition as well, because it's now becoming more powerful with all of this dimensional shift, with all this thing, the things that we are working on it, there is more empowerment for individual, people like you and I than it's ever been before.
Jannecke Øinæs 56:28
And I think you did mention it, but I have to ask at the end of the episode. Now, you said there was a battle going on, but is the light winning?
Lee Carroll 56:40
It is, and you can see it so many if you go back to either attitudes, the things that people are doing now that they never did before, how we think about each other just over the last 2030, years. But if you go back a couple of 100 years, it's really obvious that consciousness is evolving. But now it really is we're beginning to see things we never saw before. I mean, when, when the last Pope came in, for instance, and the former one didn't even die for him to come in, one of the first things he did was to say, I'm going to eliminate this thing that has been abuse of children in the church. It's one of the worst things that you've ever seen. How many centuries did it take for that to happen? Bingo that happened at the same time. You see all of these things, the me too, movement, the my grandfather said, You'll never change how men treat women and how that women never go anywhere, because that's just the way of it. He said. He said, I've seen it for all my life, and my grandfather saw it in his life. And bingo that changed. Movie stars are getting called on it. They're going to jail for what normally people did. This is our society, the core of it that is starting to change. There's many things like that, over and over and over that are small, but you can see this is an evolution of consciousness to something that is we respect each other, we're kinder to each other. That has not followed yet into politics. It's not that's the last thing, the last bastion, I think you'll see they still yell at each other, call each other names, and it's divine and separate people. It's coming. Something is coming. It's going to change that. When you see what it could be with somebody who's coming along in some country, and you'll go, wow, I never knew they could do that. It's time. And individuals are the heroes of our time. We can point to them in every one of our countries that that we respect, that's coming as well. It can't be too soon for me when we're in the midst of some horror right here on the planet. This too will pass.
Monika Muranyi 58:49
And one of the things that Kryon has said, when you have the physics of consciousness has energy, and there are formulas, and there are things where, when you know that they're going to happen, it's because the potentials have set up, and crimes often given an example of the Snowball is coming down the hill, and what that means, and particularly, you'll love this, because you're in Norway, and you have a lot of snow, and you've obviously seen when a big snowball comes down The slope, there's a tipping point. Okay, so when that snowball tips and gravity takes over, you can't stop the Snowball from coming down the hill. And if you say this snowball is going to hit that tree, you're not giving a prediction. You're seeing the alignment of all the potentials of what's already underway. So it's going to hit that unless something happens in the meantime, where the tree gets chopped down or something like that. But again, this is a metaphor to understand the perspective from what Kryon sees and Spirit sees and reports back to us. So when crying gives that for. Craves light is winning. Crying is saying that the snowball that holds that tipping point of light winning on the planet, it's moved past that tipping point, and it's on the way. So you can't stop it, no matter what you do, and what we're seeing is, again, that last gasp, but it's not going to stop the Snowball from coming, because it's too late, that snowball of light has been released. What Kryon says is that we are in control of the timing of it. So when we get into the fear of what's happening and all of the things that go around that look like light is not winning, all that's doing is delaying what's inevitable. So the best thing we can do to speed up the timing of the light. Winning is to claim that truth already and shine that truth. The more of us can hold that vibration and shift it. We actively speed up the delivery of light. There is a delivery of light on the planet, coming from everywhere and coming from within the Pleiadian portals within the earth, coming from our solar system, coming from podcasts like you, coming from individuals who are awakening to a bigger truth and knowing that we are divine inside that is our existence, and we are stepping more and more into the light. So the light is winning. We are in control of the timing of it. And anyone that thinks all these skirmishes and last gasps of the old energy are going to stop the light, they don't have a chance. They can no more stop the light from coming than a sand castle on the beach can stop the incoming tide coming over it. So just imagine there is this wave of light coming onto your Beach Shores, and you have all these frantic attempts of building a sand wall to stop that ocean, to stop that light from ring doesn't have a chance, that wave of light is going to roll over like the sand castle and just smoosh it all into the existing particles of sand, and come back, and I want all of you to leave with that knowing light is winning.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:46
Oh, that was a beautiful way to wrap up this episode, and it just just felt it in my heart, all the hope and inspiration and the beautiful tools that you gave us today that we can take with us and be part of this, this shift and helping the light win, even though it's inevitable. Now, I have a few questions that I ask all my guests, and I'll start with you firstly, and then you can answer. Monica So Lee, what is self love? To you?
Lee Carroll 1:03:18
Self love? The word self love. It's the ability to see the soul in you that loves you dearly and love it back. Loving yourself is not an egotistic thing. It is a mastery thing. It is you being comfortable with you
Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:34
and what about you? Monica,
Monika Muranyi 1:03:36
I think self love is our authentic state. It's who we are, and we just have to peel the layers of the onion that obfuscate that which we already have. Does the soul ask? Do I love myself? No, it just emanates the energy of love. It is love, and so that is who we are, that is the self love, and we are simply removing all the layers like dust that cover up who we truly are once it's exposed, it's doesn't even have to question, do I love myself? It simply is the love that it already was
Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:23
powerful. And back to you, Monica, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?
Monika Muranyi 1:04:32
I Hm, that's an interesting question. I think the deeper meaning of life is knowing that we are an eternal soul with no beginning and no end. It is a statement that's incredibly difficult for the logical mind to understand, but the life we have when we go to that end of life. If we don't stop, we continue, and we are here having a beautiful human experience and changing the fabric of the universe in the process.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:13
And how about you, Lee, what do you think? What is the deeper meaning of life? From your perception?
Lee Carroll 1:05:19
Blank and I work together in this constantly, and her answer is the right answer, and it is to go further. Much is, is the deeper meaning of life is when you sit there and realize I'm an eternal soul, there's so much more to me. And what does this mean to me now? And what can I do that's different from, you know, the chores of the day, or the phone calls I have to make, or the appointments, the deeper meaning becomes, why am I here? And that is to enhance this planet.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:50
All right, this has been so inspiring. If people want to learn more, and I guess people do, where do they go? How can they learn more from you?
Lee Carroll 1:06:00
Easy. We have a good website, cryon.com we have all our courses there. We have kryonmasters, kryonmasters.com sorry, yeah. Kryon.com is the older one that I had for 20 years now, and it's being phased out. And kryonmasters.com is where all our courses are, where you can find out what we do, and also we have a because we have the studio, you might say, Why are you in a studio? Because we do weekly programs and that 90 minutes a week that is called Wednesdays with Kryon, the place that's safe for you to go, lots of channeling guests. It's almost like a podcast, but not quite. kryonmasters.com
Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:44
Thank you so much for coming to the show today. It was such a joy having you on and thank you for your truly inspiring and important work.
Monika Muranyi 1:06:54
Thank you, Jannecke, it's a joy for us to be here with you.
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