Judah on the Epstein Files, Reclaiming Your Power, and Why the Children Will Change Everything! With Anjie Hipple

Anjie Hipple 0:00

We will speak about this Epstein character and this elite class of perpetrators. This is a time where secrets are going to be revealed. We are talking about you personally, and we're talking about your countries, your nations, and the world. The secrets are what are keeping humanity sick. Can you give some predictions on what's to come? We will tell you that there will be heartbreaking news coming of many children. The children are going to rise up, and they are going to protest war. They're going to say enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, and when you see the children in this way, you will know things will change. They will change, and it won't be lip service or words that will be real, true change. Give children a voice. If you're wondering, what can I do. About this Epstein crisis, we will tell you, you can love a child. Go to the school in your neighborhood, ask the teacher, ask the principal, where is a child whose father and mother never visit them anymore, or in foster care? And go and sit with that child, and eat with that child, look in their eyes, don't teach them, don't tell them what to do or how to think, just listen to them, look in their eyes, and love them.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:32

Hey, I know it can get annoying when YouTubers ask you to subscribe, but if you do subscribe, you are supporting the channel, and you are getting notifications of new videos, and it only takes a couple of seconds. Thank you so much, Angie Hipple. A warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North Show. How are you?

Anjie Hipple 1:51

I'm doing great, Jannecke, and it's fantastic to see you again. This is my first time getting back in the room with you since your big day, and you look lovely.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:02

Oh, thank you. Thank you for referring to my wedding. Yes, it's beautiful to be married. I'm excited about that. And we just got home from a beautiful Easter holiday, and I'm back to recording again. And I really always enjoy our conversations. And for those who are new to you, you are a spiritual teacher, you are an author. You are one of our masterclass teachers in Wisdom from North membership, and you are a multi-dimensional channeler of several beings. Actually, you have channeled the Pleiades on my show, but especially Judah, a collective of 350,000 angels who we might meet today, and we spoke a little bit about before we started to record that we wanted to really dive deep today and address what's going on in the world today from a metaphysical and spiritual perspective, because I feel like that is more important than ever now, not just to speak sort of fluffy about it up here, like really being concrete, because I think a lot of people are confused, afraid, and not knowing how to handle all the information that is coming forward, shocking information that I don't even know where to put in my mind, you know, because so much information is coming out about cruelty that I never thought exists on this planet, and I think we need to address it. So, how do you, Angie, feel our conversation today might expand people's consciousness?

Anjie Hipple 3:30

Well, generally, I don't talk about these topics, especially things in the political front or things really hot in the news, and there's some reasons for that, right? Because I don't want to give attention to it in order to grow it, like Judah has taught. If you think about a simple example, like a plant, if you take a plant and you put it in the sun and give it water and nourishment, it grows. If you lock it in a closet, a dark closet, and shut the door, it's going to die. So, as a general broad spiritual principle, if we give a lot of attention to things that we don't like that are happening on the world stage, it can serve to grow those things by adding more fear energy, more anxiety, more upset, and sometimes we need to just kind of put those things in closet, take away our attention from those things, in order to give them a chance to die. As a matter of fact, recently Judah gave me an image of, I don't know if you have this in your country, but in our country, on car lots, we have these blow up things that kind of wave and do these silly things. Have you ever seen those? They're full of air, and they're really tall. They're like they're balloons. They go up two or three stories, and they're used to get people's attention, so they'll see the car lot from far away and come and potentially buy a car. So Judah gave me this image and said this is. This, these balloons are like our world leaders. These world leaders that are doing such crazy, insane things now. The more attention we give them, the bigger they seem, but they're really nothing but hot air, and the only thing that gives them any power is our attention, and so letting the air out of that. If you had one of those big, huge, three-story balloons, and you unplugged it, it would immediately fall flat to the ground. And so this was the image they gave. So, for the most part, I don't give it attention on a personal level. What I do is I will scan the headlines on my newsfeed, just the headlines only, each day. Occasionally I might read a little of something, but generally I don't. I can get the gist of things from the headlines to keep myself current, and then I can decide in my inner being what I want to do about it, if anything, and we'll talk some more specifics, but today I really felt like Judah said they want to talk about some of this stuff now. Why? Why now, after this other strategy that I just explained. Well, you know, Judas is the archetype of a lion, and lions are the king of the jungle. They don't have bosses, they don't have kings, they don't answer to anybody. They do what they want to do when they want to do it, and they do it from instinct, and they can roar, and they can fight, right? And they're not afraid to do it, and they don't apologize for it, but they also rest a lot too. Lions rest like 18 to 20 hours a day, they're either resting or sleeping. So, a lot of times, you know, and this is something I want to share with the viewers, you have to lean into the nuance, like what's right for you. Do you need to ignore this? Do you need to put it in closet, shut the door? Do you need to cut down on the social media newsfeed? Do you need to take your attention away from that? Is it making you anxious? Is it making you sick? Is it making you sad? Right, and or do you need to fight in some way? Right, like my daughter's a beautiful example, this. She's 26 she's Gen Z, very upset about some of the things going on on the world stage, and for some reason she was raised in a fundamentalist Christian background, which I and her father raised her in. For some reason, she just has a real tender heart towards the Palestinian people, and so, but she's upset so much of the time, and literally making herself sick and depressed with the news and the reality of it, but she's made some choices lately to go get certified in in some high consciousness spiritual modalities to heal people's trauma, and also to learn Arabic, because she wants to be able to speak the language of these beautiful people that she sees on her feed that she feels so sad about, so she's taking some action, right, and so action can be really important if it's thoughtful and intentional and done with awareness, and it's empowered action that comes from sovereignty that makes a difference. But sometimes we fool art. Judah taught me that we're fooling ourselves by thinking that when we scroll and read and scroll and read and watch the news that we're doing something that, and feel upset about it, that we're doing something about it, that's not doing anything about it, that's just getting, that's just drawing us into the same bad energy, and it's not changing it right. So we have to be Judah, also recently gave me a metaphor in a channel about a river, so if you think of all these things going on in the world stage as a rushing river, you know, like after a storm that's just sweeping and tearing down everything along the banks, and there's so much debris in it, if we put ourselves in that river by constantly ingesting all this different information and all this toxic things that are going on, we're just going to get swept downstream with all the negativity and the difficulties, but we, we can get ourselves out of the river and stand on the bank and get ourselves in peace and get ourselves centered and get ourselves in our sovereignty, and we can observe it, and we can decide what we want to do, if anything. For some of us, the right course of action is inaction, and that is a valid decision. If you've made it from a deep place in yourself, you know, I'm going to unplug. On this, I'm not going to give this my energy, and for some of us, there needs to be action, and for a lot of us, there's going to be some of both, and we need to be like that lion, right, that knows when it's time to rest and when it's time to roar, and really trust our own instinct in that, and one of the practical ways you know which to do is, if you're constantly in the fight, in the battle, and you're exhausted, you're worn out, you're, you're not peaceful inside your, your body's, you know, showing signs of disease, you're anxious, you're, you're drinking too much, you're needing pills, you know. Then, then action is probably not the right course for you right now, right? The action that we want to take comes from we're centered, we're in our higher self, we're peaceful, we're clear, we're getting downloads of information from our oversoul and our guides about what actions to take, and we're moving out from a place of empowerment, so to shorten that right, we know what to do based on if we, if there's a lot of distortion in our field, by distortion I mean negativity or upset or emotional charge, it shows up in our emotions, it shows up in negative thinking, it shows up in our bad behaviors. You know, when we're just acting out in our ego, we're being reactive. It shows up in our body, we're exhausted, we're getting sick. If there's a lot of distortion, then we may need to unplug from the action and unplug from the news feeds and unplug from all of that until we are in a better place and when and then when we're in a good place we can move forward in taking the actions that we're receiving information about and and keep moving forward until if, if, and when distortion comes back again, where we're feeling exhausted, reactive, upset, and, and taking on the energies of, you know, the situation, and when that happens, then it's time to retreat, right? And this is what good soldiers and warriors know how to do, they know when to move forward, and they also know when to retreat, right? And sometimes we make mistakes, and we may move forward when we need to retreat, or vice versa, and that's okay. It's okay, we'll learn, and we can be both things, we can be Judah says we can be both warriors and we can be both pacifists, and we can find our way and our balance in that.

Jannecke Øinæs 12:58

All right. Well, thank you for sharing that so thoroughly, and I think that is such a crucial point, because often we, we search for that one answer to how to deal with this, how to handle this, and it's not one way, like you're saying, it's actually very individual, what is right for us in the moment. I have many questions, but I just feel like bringing in either the Pleiadians or Judah, I think perhaps they want to come through. We can ask their questions and go from there. And maybe you can speak a little bit about, like, how your channel and also how they came to you for the audience who are new to your process.

Anjie Hipple 13:37

Sure. Well, it's been several years ago I was in a major life transition. I had, I guess, you'd call it a midlife crisis, or maybe you'd call it a spiritual waking, or both. And a lot of series of really unfortunate events and things that had happened in my life, and I even wound up sick for two years during Covid, and I was chronically ill, and just sitting in a chair, basically, for those two years, and I released, I was releasing all my roles, my identities, I couldn't function in my roles anymore because of the illness, reading a lot of Enlightened Masters, watching beautiful interviews, just like the ones that you do, listening to channelers, and I was changing a lot on the inside during that time, and towards the end of about two years of this, these angels called Judah came through one night. My partner said to me, we were watching a channeler on television, much a show just like this one, and he said you could do that, and I thought, I don't know, I just.. I didn't resist it. It's never something I had thought about, and sure enough, these beautiful angels came through, like blazing, you know, light. It was just amazing. It was physical, it was tangible, it's visceral. It was undeniable, they, this big booming voice, a lot of physical, you know, a phenomenon that came with it, and we've just been going with it ever since then. It was so remarkable. I just kind of set aside everything I was doing in my life at that time, teaching music in my career and different things to, to facilitate Judah coming forward, and I was instantly healed from that first encounter with them, and my health came back immediately. I mean, within hours, I noticed, wow, I think I'm healed, and it's been an amazing journey. Their energies are extraordinary. I've gotten to know them, and I trust them infinitely. Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 15:46

wow, fascinating story. I get amazed every time, and I think it's such a testament to us, you know, opening up to believe this, because you were such in a difficult place, and all of a sudden it all turns around, and from what I've understood, they're they have an extremely high consciousness, right? If you think about the David scale of consciousness, that I think joy is around 700 and enlightenment is up there 900 or so, and they are at 5000 is that correct?

Anjie Hipple 16:19

Yeah, their level of consciousness is 5000 and when they, and so that's part of the extraordinary gift of channeling them, is they are constantly raising my level of consciousness every time I channel, and so over time that's kind of raised the floor, I guess I would say, or the baseline of my level of consciousness up dramatically in the past few years, and so now my baseline level of consciousness is so much higher than it was when I came into this work, because of the influence that they have on me, but yes, they, they calibrate around 5000 usually when I'm channeling them, I can clock anywhere from like 800 to 1200 my level of consciousness will go up in that band, and then, and then it will come down back to that baseline when I'm done channeling, and that's probably why your listeners are attracted to listening to channeling. You may not even know, like, why do I watch this weird stuff? Well, a lot of times it is because when those beings come through and their consciousness level is so high, you may not even really understand exactly what they're saying, or what it means, all means for you, but you just have this sense that you're really being lifted, and in truth, you really are, you're you're entering into like a container or a field of consciousness that's at such a high level, and so it expands the possibilities for you, and it helps you to think differently, and feel differently, and feel better. And so, listening to channeling, you may just have this general sense, I feel better.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:58

Fascinating. All right, so are they present with us already?

Anjie Hipple 18:03

Yeah, let's go. Yes, dear. Hello, beloveds all around the world, we are present and really looking forward to this interchange. There are some things that we are going to talk about today that we have been saving just for this moment in time. Yes, we, uh, huh, we are always shaping, uh, huh, you shaping this vessel, shaping any of those who come to us, your guides are shaping you. You are like clay on a potter's wheel. We, we are, we want you to be wet, we want you to spin, we want you to spiral on this potter's wheel, we want you to be moldable, shapeable. You see, a vessel can be used for many, many, many things to carry all sorts of things, but if you stay moldable, shapeable, changeable, then you have so much more use for humanity. You have so much of a higher level of service, and so we have been shaping this message for today in this vessel for a long time, and she has, as she shared earlier, held many things inside that she feels about the world and what's going on in the world stage, because she does not want to contribute to strife, to division, to giving attention to negative things in a way that creates more of it, and so she has held her voice, hell, and held our voice back for this moment, but now we have things to say about this, and we're going to be very clear and answer these questions that are burdening many of you, and it is because we want you to drop the burdens today and leave them here.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:52

Wow, powerful. Thank you for opening up about this. Well, I. Can only speak for myself, but I do think that many agree that being an empath or a sensitive or just a human being who wants to do good and live a good life or a normal life, and trying our best, reading about the cruelty that comes forward, for instance, in the Epstein files is just so shocking that we cannot even fathom it, and I'm curious about the spiritual meaning behind it. I'm curious about that character, Epstein. I'm curious about whether he is alive or not, and his sole purpose, if he has a soul purpose, if it's true evil, or if it's actually a spiritual purpose behind what's happening, like a higher purpose with it all.

Anjie Hipple 20:50

Yes, yes, yes. We will speak about this situation, and this Epstein character, and this elite class of perpetrators. Yes, and we want every victim of this crime, and of other similar, lesser and greater cruelties, to feel here in this moment our love and care for you, and we are here to embrace you, to hold you, to heal you, to clear from your experience the pain of what you've gone through, and you are infinitely and eternally loved, and and there is no excuse, no excuses to be given ever for this type of behavior, you are loved, dear and precious ones. But what we want you to know, have you been true victims? Yes, you have been true victims, and your soul, on the soul, the part of you, your superconscious that exists, that existed long before you were born, and became a victim has chosen this experience for reasons that you will begin to understand, and you will arise, phoenix, from the ashes, from a sense of victimization into a sense of empowerment. Yes, you dear ones who have been abused, yes, even some castrated. We see, yes, you're going to be sovereign over your life. You'll never again be held underfoot, not just in this lifetime, but in every lifetime. You see some that have been victimized in this way have been victimized for many lifetimes, and you've chosen this, the cruelty of this Epstein situation, and other, many, many other secret situations that are not publicly known. You have chosen this because your soul has said this, this, this is the lifetime in which I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever again in the story of my soul, be put underfoot, be told how to do, what to wear, where to go, how to speak, how to perform for others. I will never again be a slave to anyone else's wishes, whims, cruelty, or desires. I will live for and through and by the God seed that is within me, and I will not be subject to any other man, woman, child, anyone who would harm. And we want to talk about this Epstein class again for a moment, and why it exists. Okay, and we want to say we're not blaming anyone here, we're just going to tell the truth. Okay, so please don't receive anything we say is blame. We're simply talking in the large context of humanity. You see, human, the human race, since antiquity has wanted kings, has wanted rulers, has wanted priests, has wanted people to tell them what to do, how to live, where to go, what to eat, how to behave. They have wanted this because it made them feel safe to have this sort of leadership, to have kings, to have royalty, to have priesthood. And so the people willingly gave up their power to this ruling class, and sometimes this elite and wicked and cruel ruling class gave up their power to them and became enslaved to them. And why did they do it? Because they, they thought they would receive safety in the exchange, they thought that having a ruler, a leader, and would would give them some security and some peace of mind, but instead it has been the opposite, and the human race, not just these precious Vea. Victims of Epstein, but many, many of you we see are enslaved. You're enslaved to your desks, you're enslaved to obligations, you're enslaved to cultural standards of wealth, of social norms, of education. You have given up your power to so many people, places, things, and ideas, and so we're speaking here about humanity has wanted leaders, you see, they've wanted it has when you have leaders and when you give your power to them, then it absolves you from personal responsibility for your life. Yes, and so it is easier, is it not? Many times it is easier to give up your power to a president, to a ruler, to a king, to a man, to a priest, to a preacher, to a spiritual leader, to a guru, to a channel. It is easier to give your power over to them and let them make the decision for you, and that way, if you fail or you're unhappy, you can point the finger back at them and blame them, you see, for what went wrong, and then you've learned, and then you've learned nothing, dear one. So, it is, it is challenging to make your own choices, and in many of you, most of you have been so conditioned by this type of society, and this vessel is a good example. She was told from the time she was a very young girl by the spiritual leaders in her religious community that the heart is wicked, that people are sinful, that she cannot trust herself to make good decisions, and this is a lie. You see, she was taught this, it was ingrained in her. So, again, we're not blaming anyone, dear. Once we love you so much, we're only here to wake you up and help you to notice, to see, maybe for the first time, to become aware that you've given up your, your thinking, your, you've just gone along in this group, think, and in your being, as, as the vessel shared earlier, you're being washed downstream in the group, think in the collective unconsciousness, we want you to wake up, we want you to grab a limb, we want you to pull yourself to the bank. We want you to pull yourself up out of the river. We want you to stand on your own two feet on the riverbank, and we want you to find your solid footing. We want you to know you can make good choices for yourself. Some of we want to talk about the patriarchy, which has allowed the travesty of this Epstein crisis, and so many, many, many, many men who have joined in to this Epstein crisis, and there are many other secret societies and situations similar in nature, not just this one. Let's talk about the patriarchy and what to do about it. The patriarchy must be addressed here in the heart first. We will share with you this vessel's story. Many of you will relate. The patriarchy is ingrained from when she was a child, that the mother is the housekeeper, and the housewife, and the heart, and the one that nurtures, and the one that cares, and the one that caresses, and holds, and listens, and the father is the one who is in charge, who takes responsibility, who has the power, who has the wealth, who has the influence, who has the information and the knowledge, and knows what is best. And so she was trained from the earliest age. Father knows best. Give up my power to my father, and he will keep me safe. You see, the exchange there, I will give up my power to my father, and in exchange he will keep me safe, and I will give up my power to him, and let him tell me how to think, how to vote, how to approach God, how to be spiritual, and I will buy into his beliefs and his system and his way of doing things, and in exchange I will not have to think for myself or take responsibility for my life. And yes, you see, and so she was ingrained in this. So the patriarchy lives in here, and it's not just in women, it's in the men too. Listen carefully, men and women, you've internalized the idea that you need someone to tell you how to live, you need them to tell you what to do, where to go, how to think, what job to hold, how to vote, and as soon as you buy into that belief system. Then you have lost your power, and so to tear down the patriarchy, you must tear it down in here. You must be willing to take a risk and try and make a decision, and then follow through on the decision, and if it fails, be okay with that, and support yourself anyway, and say, well, I did it because I am taking responsibility for my life now, and it's okay that I made a mistake. Let me get up and try again, and taking responsibility for how you think, and your opinions, and your beliefs, instead of just voting the way your mother did, or your father did. Statistically, almost all of you, 80 to 90% of you vote the way your parents vote, and you follow the same religion that your parents have followed, and many of you have broken away from that system, and that is why you're here watching this interchange, and you've lost a lot because of it, you've lost connection to your family, you've lost connection to your spiritual community that once supported you and caused you to feel very safe, and we want you to know we see the grief that you experience because of you, maybe even lost a partner on your spiritual journey towards awakening, and we want you to know we see the loss and the grief and sadness you feel in this change, but we want you to know, dear one, it's going to be worth it. It's going to be worth it, and we're here supporting you in it. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And the thing we want to say about this Epstein shenanigans and all of this is that this is a time where secrets are going to be revealed, secrets are going to be revealed, and it is an appointed time. Yes, and your secrets are what will make you sick. We are talking about you personally, and we're talking about your countries, your nations, and the world. The secrets are what are keeping humanity sick, and so we want you to rather, rather than feeling tormented by what is being revealed, we want you to feel a sense of relief. We want you to exhale, we want you to rejoice that what has been hidden is now coming to the forefront, and we want you to, right now today, and after this interview, take some time. What is a secret that you are holding within yourself, something that you feel ashamed about, something that you did maybe decades ago, something your parents did, some secret that you don't want others to know, and we want you to unburden yourself from this secret. We're not asking you to share it with people that aren't safe or can't be supportive. We don't want you to share it with people that are judgmental or going to tell you how to fix yourself or why you're broken. No, we want you to simply find a safe space, one safe person, and unburden yourself from your secrets and let them die right there. Maybe even have a burning ritual with this beloved one that is trustworthy, that will not share anything that you reveal to them, and release yourself from the burden of secrets. The time is now, and this is what is happening with this Epstein situation, and other many other situations around wars and world leaders, that the sword that is above your head, that has been held over your head as a threat. Those things is time now for you to take that sword from over your head and hold it in your hand, and the way you do this is by releasing yourself from the burden of these secrets. Some of you, not all of you, some of you have things that you've done that have been secret, a secret in your life. Even someone here listening today, you, you murdered someone, you accidentally killed someone, and you feel tremendous grief and sadness and guilt over it, but dear one, you are a completely different person than you were then. You have been completely reborn. So you must now take the sword from over your head of guilt and shame, and you must put it in your hand. And one of the ways you can do this is by sharing your story with others, share your victory with others.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:46

Wow, thank you. Thank you for that. A lot of wisdom there, many, many perspectives. I need to watch that again. I would like to ask you, maybe. Want to address it, but I'm curious whether he is still alive, and I'm curious about his soul agenda. I mean, you did speak about it, what, what we are to learn about this, why this is happening, but more concretely about Epstein. Did he agree to do this? Was this a conscious soul choice? I'm curious about, you know, the overall perspective.

Anjie Hipple 35:25

Yeah, I don't feel that he's alive. That feels like a no to me. But, of course, his soul is still alive, and he is watching from an astral realm, a lower astral realm, and he is quite fascinated and interested, and actually his ego is quite inflated by all the attention, and he is enjoying it in quite a nefarious way. We will say, and he, like Hitler and some others, have embodied as a soul, have made a choice to embody many of the darker aspects of humanity, and these he has soaked up like a sponge the darkness of the ruling and elite and powerful patriarchy, and he relishes it and enjoys it, and it is not his time yet as a soul to shed this, and it is a time now to understand clearly the difference between power and force. Real power, real power comes from inner stillness, quiet and clarity about the truth of oneself, and a love that is coupled with wisdom. For love without wisdom is soft and wishy-washy. Love without wisdom will be run over love without wisdom will be victimized. Many of you impasse, listen carefully to what I'm saying. Here, you are so loving, you are so compassionate. Your third eye is open, you are receiving through the crown, you are embodying love. However, there needs to be a higher wisdom and strength of sovereignty from your solar plexus and your lower centers that joins this love, so that you're not being run roughshod over by wickedness. Yes, and so this Epstein character is in the lower astral realms. He is giddy with glee over all the attention that he is receiving and has no remorse for those which he has harmed.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:49

Wow, I just got really sad reaction to that, but it makes sense. However, will always a soul like him eventually move into the light.

Anjie Hipple 38:04

Yes, there is a slingshot phase. We will say there is for some souls, there is a drawing back into total abject darkness, total abject depravity, and lack of morality or sense of harm to others or any care or thought whatsoever of others, and this rubber band effect, they will go as far as they can into darkness, and then there will be a release of this tension, and they will be shot forward into a into an awakening. Yes, and so we, what we want to say and emphasize again about this Epstein reality. The reality, it is a sim, it is symbolic, it is archetypal of what is happening in the realm of spirit right now. What is happening is there has to be this level of tragedy for the human race to wake up and decide that they will not allow themselves to be victimized by anyone. Now we understand there are true victims, even there are there are beautiful souls right now in sex slave trade affairs. Watching this interview, we see you. We know you are a true victim, but we want you to know that even in the midst of that, like the Viktor Frankls of the world, even while you're in the midst still of this lifestyle, you can hear the word we are saying to you, and you can be sovereign of your own thoughts, you can think your own thoughts, you can tell yourself the truth that you are loved, you are precious, you have the seed of God in you, and one day you're going to get out of this situation, but this whole situation is archetypal and it is symbolic of. The moment in time in which humanity must take back their power from the people, places, things, jobs, businesses, systems, education, world leaders, parents, religious conditioning that they've given it over to, and you must begin to take small sovereign actions, they can be very small. There is a domino effect. If you line up many, many, many dominoes, you can knock down all of them at once by tapping the first one, just the lightest tap, and they can all fall. So start with small things. For instance, there's someone watching right now, and your husband doesn't like it when you go on a trip with your girlfriends. He doesn't like it, he's jealous, he's possessive, he is. He asserts power over you, he makes you feel guilty for wanting to do something fun with your friends, even though you're doing nothing wrong, and so you must take back your power. You will say, precious one, I'm going on a trip with my girlfriends. Here's the number and the address of where we will be, and I will see you in three days, and you must go, no matter how much he insists that you not, or torments you, or accuses you, or abuses you verbally or emotionally, and tells you how wrong you are, and if you will do that one small thing, then you can, it is tapping that domino, and all of them will begin to fall in your life, and you will find this power, your power returning back into yourself. And when you do something like that, you are doing it for the Epstein victims, you are doing it for sex slaves. Every time you take back your power in a small area, you are changing it, not just for yourself, but for others. Yes, yes. Small sovereign actions. Yes, this vessel was an example of this. She was raised in a fundamentalist Christian church, her father, her husband, all the people in her community, her safe and loving community voted a certain way. She made a choice while still very firmly entrenched in that community, in the marriage, in the situation, in the religion, to vote in another way. And if those people had known, they would have been very upset with her, and she did not even tell her husband. She went into the voting booth, and she pulled the curtain closed, and she voted for the other yes. And this was a small sovereign action that be that tipped tapped that first domino that began to change her life, small sovereign actions to take back your power. Trust your instinct. Trust your gut. A lion doesn't ask anybody for permission to roar. It doesn't ask for permission. It has an instinct of what is right in the moment, and sometimes it is silence and stillness, and other times it is to be vocal, and this is about dominion, not domination, dominion over your own life, your own thoughts and feelings, your own spiritual practice. Even some of you, you listen to different experiences like this one, and you feel that this vessel, or someone else that you're listening to, is telling you how to live. No, that's not how it is, my dear. And if they are doing that, then they are not a spiritual leader for you. Spiritual leaders are underneath you, holding you up. They allow you to stand on their shoulders, and they hold you firmly. They hold your legs and your feet firmly, so that you can go up higher. But they don't tell you how to live. They simply hold up a light. They hold up a mirror. They trust you. True spiritual leaders and gurus trust you. They trust you to find your own inner wisdom and strength, and if they want you to toe the line of what they say and do what they say, and dress like they dress, and go to their things and do what they do, then they are not true spiritual leaders. Yes.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:41

Thank you for that, and that is also something we see now. Obviously, we don't have, like, really proof, or we don't know for sure, but there are names, spiritual leaders, also popping up in the Epstein files. That has been shocking to me. Vea, in one way, and in another way, I felt I knew something was off. I don't want to mention the name, but you know who I'm speaking about. So, I think I mean, this is all so aligned with what I've been feeling about empowerment, that we put people on pedestals, and it's happening a lot in Norway as well, and so many regions are so disappointed about so many politicians, or especially a few trusted politicians showing up in the Epstein files many, many times, even our Crown Princess, and what I've been thinking about is that this is a question. question for Judah. When it comes to leading positions, is it possible for the human nature to be a leader without ending up being corrupted because of our ego? It seems like the more leading positions we have, the more corrupted we become, and I'm saying we, because I don't know, like I also have my ego that I just got married, and I'm stunned how my husband is a mirror, and I'm seeing new sides of myself that I didn't know were there. So, we all have, you know, these egos and our shadows. So, the future leadership, like, what does it take for us to have leaders who are in the heart? Is that even possible in these times we find ourselves in?

Anjie Hipple 46:28

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We understand it is a really tall order. Yes, it is. And we will say that this is the secret we are giving you here. When the people stop expecting humans to be more than human, and when the people stop needing leaders to rule their life, they don't need them because they are willing to rule their own lives and take responsibility for their own lives, then much of this will go away. True spiritual leader, true political leaders, leaders of any kind are servants. They are servants. They are washing the feet of their people. Jesus, this is why Jesus insisted on the night before he died on washing the feet of his 12 disciples. You see, back then there were dirt roads and rough terrain, and when you came in your home at night, you from the knees down, you were filthy, and your feet would be a cake with dirt and and feces and disease and all the traffic of the world and you needed to wash your feet when you came in your home, your home being your sacred space, and Jesus washed the feet of each of his disciples, and one of them, Peter, said, 'No, no, Lord, I can't let you do that. I can't let you. You're you're my teacher, you're my leader, you're my God, you're.. you're the love of.. you are my beloved. I can't let you wash my feet. And Jesus said, 'Well, if you want to have anything to do with me, Peter, you must allow this, and he said it as an example, and if you find a spiritual leader who is loving people, serving them, getting down in the dirt with them, yes, like the dear Mother Teresa, yes, and and there are others like this vessel who listen to your heartache, to your hurt, to your pain, to your trauma, and they get in the muck and the mire and the dirt with you, and they wash you in spirit, they wash you, they wash you in truth, they wash you in love, they wash you in forgiveness, they wash you in compassion, and they, and then they put you up on their shoulders and lift you up as higher than themselves. Then this is what true spiritual leadership is. And the problem is many world leaders today, all they have to do is look good, smell good, and say the right words, and they are given power. But the people must hold leadership to a higher standard, and you are doing it, dear ones. We love the way you are speaking up and doing this. It is a time for many of you to to raise your consciousness into this throat chakra area, which is a very high function. This throat chakra is the 600 700 realm. It is many people think that of the heart of unconditional love being a heart chakra function, but what Dr. Hawkins taught us is that unconditional love is a throat chakra function. What does that mean? It means that you cannot be unconditionally loving until you're speaking your truth. Truth. Yes, you cannot enter the level of consciousness of unconditional love until you are speaking the truth.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:11

Wow,

Anjie Hipple 50:12

so begin to speak your truth unedited at least once a week. Now we're not telling you to go in and tell off your boss and get fired, that might be your course of action, but you can begin once a week, speak your truth, unedited, unedited, and be willing to hear other people's truth as well. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 50:40

gosh, I feel there's so much wisdom in this episode. Thank you so much. This is giving a lot of answers to me. How will this culminate? There are more files coming forward. We see a movement of the no king movement. We still have many talk about an elite running the world. Can you give some, since you have a higher perspective, any predictions on what's to come in the years to come?

Anjie Hipple 51:15

Yes, yes, yes. Well, we will tell you that when you see children empowered and given a voice, then you will know that these secrets have been laid to rest, brought into the light, laid to rest, and vindicated. When the children are vindicated, we will tell you that there will be heartbreaking news coming of many children who were killed and buried with no compassion, no ceremony, and no grief from this situation. So watch for the children and give them a voice when they speak wisdom, for many children are old souls of a very high consciousness, and many children know much more than their adult counterparts. And we want to speak to parents and teachers, and anyone who has authority over children right now, and tell you, uh, huh, that you can serve all of humanity by elevating children, by respecting their choices, by giving them options, by refusing to rule over them with rules, with legalism, and with inflexible boundaries. Do children need to be kept safe? Of course. Do they need to be guided? Yes. But there needs to be a shift in which parents and adults in authority don't necessarily think they know more than the children. Yes, children have a lot to say. This dear one was watching Greta, yes, this week, and she was so moved by this young woman. You see, this was a young woman who fell silent for three years because she was so broken and in so much grief over what she saw in the world and the travesties and the lies of rulers and leaders who lied consistently, not just to her, the children in her nation, but children all over the world, about what is happening to Mother Earth. She fell silent for three years, but at the end of that time, she found her voice. Yes, she found her voice, and her unconditional love for Mother Earth began to flow, and it, and it came out as a roar, as a lion roar, and she spoke the truth. She said, leaders, you are lying to us. Don't tell me anymore that you're going to do something about it when you've done nothing. I'm not listening to your nice words anymore. I want to see evidence. She is a forerunner, and there will be many more coming after her, not just around environmentalism, but many about war. When the children, the children are going to rise up, and they are going to protest war. They're going to say enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough, enough. And when you see the children in this way, you will know things will change. They will change, and it won't be lip service or words. There will be real, true change. Give children a voice. If you're wondering, what can I do about this Epstein crisis? We will tell you, you can love a child, love a child. Go to the school in your neighborhood, ask the teacher, ask the principal, Where is a child that is lonely? Where is a child that is homeless in this school? Where is a. Child whose father and mother never visit them anymore, or in foster care, and go and sit with that child and eat with that child, bring them something special to eat, listen to them, look in their eyes, don't teach them, don't tell them what to do or how to think, just listen to them, look in their eyes and love them. Yes, there are children all around you, and they are the future. Take your eyes, yes, off all the doom scrolling and the horrible news. Is it true what is happening? Yes, it is true. We're not asking you to put your head in the sand, we're not asking you to sweep this under the rug, but we're asking you to take actions that matter on a heart level, on a soul level. Invest your time, energy, and attention in a, in a soul, in a person in front of you. You see, if everyone here today, everyone on the planet right now, for just a split second, a split second, if every human person on the planet loved the person in front of them, and was loved by the one in front of them. You would need no leadership, you would need no laws, you would need no lawyers, no courts, no jails. You would not need any of these things. And so, if you want a leader that is a servant leader, be one, and some of you, someone listening here needs to go into politics. Yes, and turn it upside down, turn the tables, but most of you, that is not your path, but you can love the people in your life, and you can love yourself, and if you don't know how to love the person that you're in relationship with, or how to love yourself, keep at it, keep at it, keep going, keep showing up in places like this, and you will learn, you will. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 56:57

wow, wow, wow. Thank you again. All right, so I don't know if it was Angie or Judah feeling emotional. I definitely felt emotional. Yeah, and I couldn't let it stop, even though I felt that or heard that Judah or Angie, you said that it's not helping, that we're feeling sad, but I still feel that I just felt.. I don't know, I feel so emotional right now. I just felt the grief of the situation, like collectively, how horrible it is, and it's not possible for me not to be emotional about it.

Anjie Hipple 57:45

Right. And sadness is, is anger, I think. Sadness, you know, some, and some of us, I think, can, yes, we need to grieve, like there's the grief stages, you know, the denial, the sadness, and then, and anger is part of it too. And I think sometimes we classify anger as a not okay emotion, but anger is very empowering. It's so empowering, you know. I remember one time a neighbor chewing out my kids in my yard, they were railing at my kids about something, and I saw it through the window, and when I stepped out of that house, I was mad, and I told that neighbor, "Please, you are not allowed to come into my yard and my home and yell at my kids, and I was mad, and it's okay for us to be mad. We just want to make sure we're using that in an in a way, directing it in a way that matters, rather than just keeping ourselves on this wheel of sadness and upset, sadness and anger, sadness and anger, and not doing anything productive about it.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:00

Yeah, that makes sense, because it is a powerful energy I felt, and it feels that it compels me to do something that I actually want to take an inspired action on it, and I thought it was so powerful, I mean, when I'm going to step, step outside my apartment now, when I see a child, it's just, it's going to hit me immediately, because you know, I feel that there's also a collective of children who, in a way, can feel each other's pain, and who are connected to each other in a way.

Anjie Hipple 59:35

Yes, you know, a last thought I have on that too, is I can hear Judas saying, don't forget joy, right? Like, sometimes the way we can really serve the true victims, like in this Epstein crisis and other crises, is to be joyful, to be joyful, and it sounds. Is contradictory, but you know, Dr. Hawkins taught us that one person that's at the level of joy cancels out or balances out the negativity of over 10 million, 10 million people that are in sadness, fear, grief, anger, despair. So I really feel that I hear Judas saying, don't forget joy, right, because if we wait to feel joy till everybody in the world is okay, we're never going to feel joy, when we feel joy, like the joy of a partner that loves us, that's one of the ways we can redeem what was what happened to those beautiful women, the in the Epstein situation is we can feel joy, the joy that they didn't get to feel, and we can hold them in our heart and and know the joy of being loved and cared for and being safe, yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:04

that is beautiful. That is a beautiful perspective, and really helpful. There are just so many highlights for me from this episode, and also I just want to say it again, what Judah said about, or was it you, I don't know anymore, love without wisdom,

Anjie Hipple 1:01:23

right? It's,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:23

yeah, it's not grounded, like we need the wisdom, we.. we need the throat chakra, we need to speak our truth, that love is not something like airy fairy, it is a grounded energy that has power in it, and thinking about, for instance, boundaries and anger, how that goes together, actually saying no, no, and empowering ourselves, don't come any farther, farther, like these are my boundaries, that is love towards ourselves, or like you with your children, don't come over my fence, you know, setting boundaries, that is healthy love, healthy boundaries.

Anjie Hipple 1:02:06

Yes, yes. Because anger has so much more energy than sadness, right? Sadness is kind of lethargic, but anger has that, that energy. Like, if you think about when I was a kid, we watched the show The Hulk, I don't know if you know that show, where he would, somebody would be in trouble or hurt or in pain or in a car accident, and he would get angry, and he would use that anger energy to rescue that person. So it's okay that we feel angry, as long as we're not in that distortion that Judah was speaking about earlier, as long as we keep it focused, you know, there's love behind it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:45

like a conscious anger, I guess that's possible. Yeah. Thank you so much, Angie. I really appreciate what came forward today. It was so many helpful tools and perspectives, and the energy within it was also quite transformational. I felt so I'll go over to my, my final questions that I ask everyone, and my first one is, What is self love to you?

Anjie Hipple 1:03:16

Self love to me is investing my attention, in my energy and my time in things that bring me peace, and in situations where I have the opportunity both give and receive love in a reciprocal way. Right, so loving myself means I don't put myself in situations where I'm giving, giving, giving, giving, and no nothing in return, but there's like a flow, like the ocean waves, they come in and go out, come in and go out, there's a reciprocation of this giving and receiving of love, and I, and I let myself say no and release and get rid of situations, people, places, things, ideas that don't facilitate that, that don't support that.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:10

I love that. That is inspiring. And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Anjie Hipple 1:04:21

I think just to fully be who and what you are, to to be who you want to be, do what you want to do, and to exist with total freedom and alignment and coherence, not not not selling off parts of yourself at all, but to really be exactly who you are, with nothing added to and nothing taken away, and to enjoy that,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:58

and Angie, if people are inspired now, how can they work with you? Learn more, watch your teachings, dive deeper.

Anjie Hipple 1:05:06

Yeah, we're the judachannel.com and the Judachannel everywhere, and we have so much to offer. We have lots of free events, we have courses, we have sessions, you know, there's just a whole.. I tried to really intentionally create a whole gamut of different things that you can do, from free to paid, and a lot of things in between, and I'd love to meet you and serve you in any way that I can

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:34

Lovely, I'll drop some links below. Thank you so much for coming back to the show, and thank you for your powerful work.

Anjie Hipple 1:05:41

I really appreciate you having me back. Love your audience so much. Thank you.