In this episode, filmmaker and researcher Alan Steinfeld shares insights from decades of exploring the UFO phenomenon, extraterrestrial contact, and the hidden potential of human consciousness.

As the creator of the long-running platform New Realities, Steinfeld has interviewed over 2,500 researchers, scientists, and experiencers. His perspective is clear: the UFO phenomenon may not just be about spacecraft or extraterrestrials—it could be pushing humanity to expand how we understand consciousness and reality itself.

According to Steinfeld, many governments hesitate to openly discuss the phenomenon not because nothing is happening—but because the full explanation may challenge our current model of reality.

A Personal Encounter That Changed Everything

Steinfeld’s fascination with UFOs deepened after a mysterious experience early in his life.

One night, after a strange episode of what felt like “missing time,” he discovered an unusual four-point mark on his leg. When he later showed it to someone familiar with abduction research, she immediately recognized it as something often reported in extraterrestrial contact experiences.

Rather than pushing him away from the topic, the event did the opposite—it sparked a lifelong quest to understand what might really be happening behind the UFO phenomenon.

Bashar, Hybrid Civilizations and Humanity’s Future

One of Steinfeld’s most intriguing moments came when he met Darryl Anka, the channel for Bashar. According to Bashar’s perspective, some extraterrestrial civilizations may be future human hybrids, combining human emotional intelligence with advanced extraterrestrial genetics.

Steinfeld recalls Bashar humorously referring to him as a “great, great grandfather” in that lineage—suggesting that human DNA may play a role in future evolutionary developments beyond Earth.

Whether taken literally or symbolically, the message highlights a powerful idea: humanity’s emotional intelligence may be one of our greatest evolutionary assets.

Are UFOs an “Awakening Signal” for Humanity?

Steinfeld believes the UFO phenomenon may serve a deeper purpose: encouraging humanity to expand its awareness.

He quotes Harvard psychiatrist John Mack, who famously described UFO encounters as:

“An outreach program from the cosmos for the consciously impaired.”

In other words, contact may not be about invasion or technology—but about awakening human potential.

If humanity learns to access deeper forms of consciousness—telepathy, intuition, and collective awareness—we may eventually meet other intelligences not as fearful observers, but as equal participants in a larger cosmic community.

The Bigger Question

For Steinfeld, the deeper meaning behind UFO encounters and psychic phenomena is simple:
Human beings may be far more capable than we’ve been taught.

And as more people explore consciousness, intuition, and non-local awareness, the mystery of the UFO phenomenon might slowly reveal something even bigger—who we truly are.

Transcript of the interview

Alan Steinfeld 0:00

And then I woke up with this little mark on the back of my leg. So I said to this one girl who was actually working on a film with her, I said; Do you know what this could be? And she goes; Oh yeah, that's an abduction. That did two things to me. That just freaked me out. Because, I mean, I was open to the idea, but to actually have it happen, and it made me obsessed with the subject. When I met Bashar, he said that to me. He called me great, great, great, great, great grandfather, because some of my genetics went into his direct line. Thought to thought communication is the real gift of higher intelligence, and we have that. We have that potential. We can send our consciousness anywhere in the universe, because we're connected to the quantum field, which is everywhere, all the time, all at once. So we can know everything about anything anywhere. And that's how remote dealing works. Remote dealing is your ability to tap into something non locally.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02

Can you share a little bit about how we can remote view?

Alan Steinfeld 1:05

Yes.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13

Alan Steinfeld, a warm welcome to the Wisdom From North show.

Alan Steinfeld 1:18

Thank you so much. Nice to see you and be here in the north with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:23

Yeah, I'm so excited to speak with you today, because I have known of your work for years, and I think you started way before me with your YouTube channel, new realities, that has been a huge success, but you do so much more. You are a filmmaker, a best selling author or making contact a speaker, and you are passionate about the UAP or UFO phenomenon. You have interviewed over 2500 people. It's amazing. And we're both going to the same event, meeting in person very soon at the Sedona ascension retreat. And I can't wait to meet you there. And of course, I'll drop a link below for anyone who's interested in joining. However, Alan, I'll give it over to you. How do you feel a conversation today might expand people's consciousness.

Alan Steinfeld 2:12

Well, we could go deeper into the UFO phenomenon. And I think I don't know if you want you said, you know, you feel really connected to it. I said, Well, maybe you're a contact you got a little nervous, maybe. But I think the the phenomena is so engaging and so unknown, and a lot of people have a lot of theories, and I'll tell you what mine are, but nobody knows what's really going on here? No one has the whole truth. That's why I wrote the book making contact, because it's 12 different perspectives, including mine, from a lot of experts in the field. And I think the government, one of the reasons they're not telling people is because they don't know how to explain it. They don't know how to in order for us, this is my theory to understand the phenomena, we have to under have a new way of thinking about reality in general. Reality is not just this thing that happens out there. There's an interface with consciousness itself. It's a reflection of consciousness. Many people have said that, but this phenomena really shows us how important consciousness is. I mean, one of my favorite sayings is by John Mack. You know who John Mack was? He was a psychiatrist at Harvard, started to work for with abductees and contactees. And Harvard said, No, you can't do it. But John Mack said, Well, it's freedom of speech, and he was allowed so John Max a key figure in the contact world, but he said one of the things I love to quote is UFOs are like an outreach program from the cosmos for the consciously impaired. That's us. We are the consciously impaired. We don't know the capacity of our own minds, of the greater awareness, we've been, in a way, dumbed down. I don't like to be too conspiratorial, but we've been put into this little box of how we're supposed to think, who we think we are, the limits. I mean, you've told me that, particularly about Norway, you can't be too too expansive, because, you know, it's not part of the social fabric, but we need to be expansive. We need to actually actuate our full potential and realize the miracles each one of us are. And I think the UFO phenomena is somehow trying to tell us that,

Jannecke Øinæs 4:39

all right, yeah, that makes sense. And then I'm curious, because you have your experience with this phenomenon, and then you've interviewed so many teachers about it as well. So let's journey back a bit, because you've always been so fascinated ever since you were a kid. I. Sci fi, and you read everything you came across. And then, of course, there is that one teacher who ruins it all. Writer says, focus on something else. Could you take us thorugh that.

Alan Steinfeld 5:11

in my book? Yes, I did. Yeah, okay,

Jannecke Øinæs 5:16

yeah, take us through that. And also how you then discovered that: Ooh, I think I've actually had some contactee experience.

Alan Steinfeld 5:25

Well, I was a very hyperactive child, you know? I think if I was born later, they would have put me on all those drugs to quiet me, because I was always thinking and active and I couldn't fall asleep at night. So I I felt different than a lot of people around me. I felt like, you know, people are into sports and team sport. And I was more like, No, I wanted to do track and swimming and individual I wanted to be more of like my own self. And so I felt different from my family. They were very nice people, still nice people, but I didn't like I quite fit in there. So I look for alternatives. I look for other ways of thinking and knowing and seeing the world. And science fiction was like a door opener, especially as a child, you know, like, I'm sure you've read the Wrinkle in Time. Have you read that book? It's, it's, that's a classic, like children's science fiction book or young adults. So there's some in science fiction, they some of these great visionaries thought about the world and other beings in a in a real way, a practical way. And I thought, well, that's probably true. It's probably true that there are other beings on other worlds, like in my chapter in my book, I say, Well, I looked at the stars at night, and that just seemed to be, you know, it's like looking at houses in the distance, where you see a light on. Well, I looked up in the sky and there was a light on. So I thought it always made sense to me that we're not alone in the universe. It's just like and then I started to have experiences that started but I think I've had a lifetime of experience seeing faces at the window, being having this strange trip with this girlfriend. We were frozen like suspended animation, where we woke up in the same position we went to bed in. We went we're traveling, so we're sleeping. And then, you know, it's like we were frozen in the middle of night, and then, like a time loop, like a time distortion. And then I woke up with this little mark on the back of my leg, this four prong puncture mark. And I thought that was weird.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:41

What do you mean that you were frozen? What do you mean by that?

Alan Steinfeld 7:45

Well, you know, we went to bed, you know, usually we roll around, do whatever, but we we just tired from driving, and we just went to bed and we woke up in the same position we went to bed. And I don't even know what position I went to bed in last night. But there was something about coming out of one phase of time into another and feeling like we were sort of placed back into time space. It's like there was a like there was a film, and like this middle piece, something happened, and then it was spliced together as if there's nothing happened, but the body keeps score, which is a name of a book on trauma. But the body keeps the body. There's a part of us that remembers, even when the conscious mind doesn't. It's about a lot of trauma happens that way, where you go back and relive it. So I knew something had happened. It felt a kind of creepy, kind of little weird. We just got out of there. But then I noticed this mark on the back of my leg, this four prong puncture mark. And so do you understand what I mean about frozen time, suspended animation? It was like, now I'm here. Now I'm sleeping for, I don't know, six, seven hours, and then I'm here again. It's hard to explain these experiences, because they transcend our normal way of speaking of time space. But there's a lot of notions of time distortion within the UFO Contact phenomenon, time dilations, Time Compression. They're able, it seems, from not just my account, many accounts, to manipulate time. They sort of these beings, whoever they are, live outside of time, live outside of our time. And if you look at the age of disclosure, the new documentary that comes out. There's a there's a section in there where, how put off, talks about this time space bubble that surround these craft, and so with enough gravity or energy, you can distort time. And I think somehow that happens to human beings. There's something called the. As a fact, where, where reality takes on a different sense of being. Some people get really tired. Some people get, you know, like, like, their consciousness is altered somehow. So that happens. It's all connected to this field that is being emanated, either by the beings or the craft or technology or something, but there's something happening like that that's not that's a lot of people's experiences. Does that make sense now a little bit.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:29

Yeah. What did you make of this scar that you just discovered on your leg, and how did it look like? Was it a symbol of some sort?

Alan Steinfeld 10:38

No, it was. You could there's actually found something like it online, but there's it was four prongs. It was on the back of my knee. It was like one.it like little scar, 1.1 dot, and the four like a square. And I didn't know what to make of it, but coincidentally or not, I started to meet people connected to bud Hopkins. Now, Bud Hopkins was one of the early contact researchers in New York, so I said to this one girl who actually worked on a film with her, I said, Do you know what this could be? And she goes, Oh yeah, that's an abduction that did two things to me that just freaked me out because I, I mean, I was open to the idea, but to actually have it happen and, and it made me obsessed with the subject. It's like, I wanted to know, I, I It freaked me out because, like, oh, I don't remember. And then I wanted to know everything that happened. So it was this, like, split of dualities. I wanted to know. But it was also like, really, Did this really happen? And I think that happens also to other people, where they experience a cognitive dissonance, where the seeing, just seeing a UFO in the sky, can kind of shake you up, but some people get sucked down the rabbit hole that way. Grant Cameron talks about his experiences, but so I started to meet these other people who were contactees, and I realized, well, I mean, everybody's experience is different, but the same in some ways. So I just kind of, I became upset. I went to all the conferences. I went all the people that had devoted their lives to this subject, like John Mack, like Whitley Streep, or like bud Hopkins, like David Jacobs, like these are like the 80s people. 80s, 90s. John Mack came out in the 90s people who were like the next wave, after J Allen Hynek. He starred in the 70s with Jacques Veale, and then this thing is not going away, janika, this is here to stay. And more and more people are catching on, like, oh, like even the government saying, well, there's something here. Or the media is saying, Well, maybe there really is something here. Maybe the government was lying about the phenomena for many reasons, but, and that's something we can talk about, but it's seems to be real.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:12

I think we all are very curious. Now, have you gone deeper into this experience, discovering what actually happened through hypnosis or other ways?

Alan Steinfeld 13:23

Yes, I did. I actually did do a hypnosis session, which someone probably wasn't he was he was a hypnosis therapist, but he wasn't so familiar with the phenomena. So I only got so far, but it was interesting. I waited a long time to to have this hypnotic regression. Lots of people talk about, there's lots of great people, Barbara, lamb, Yvonne Smith, they're doing great. But Hopkins himself. But I waited till I met someone who had an experience, and he said, For 30 years he was so freaked out by it, he had to take a sedative every night to go to bed. Well, I wasn't that freaked out, but I was a little afraid to re experience it, because it may be fearful, because there's a reason the mind blocks it out. But I decided to do this, and I went back to this time where I was my girlfriend in the back of the van, and then these lights came on in the back of the window. Have to say when you're remembering, like in these abduction or contact regressions, it's similar to past life regressions, where you don't actually have the memory, but images come into your mind. Have you done past life therapy? Yes, right? So you don't know if you're making it up or it's coming in, at least, that was my experience. So this is like what came to me in my regression, that I met these beings that weren't scary at all. They were actually compassionate, and they were raising our vibration me in this way. Them. They were, they seemed to be somehow accelerating a frequency. That's how I would describe it. And, you know, I started to tune into, I guess, more complex ways of thinking, not immediately, but lots of people, like artists or musicians, have more their art gets deeper. Their transformation somehow is connected to this cosmic awareness, not directly, but there's an acceleration, I think, in most people, as I've noticed it, but so it wasn't scary in the thought way that I thought it was, it was, it was a reconnection to to a time I had blocked out. And I think the integration actually also helped me. So thank you for asking.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:57

Yeah, and I want to point out another interesting part of this, which was that you spoke with Daryl Anka and Bashar, who actually gave you a straight answer, saying, Yes, this has been going on, and there's a connection between you and Bashar. Could you share?

Alan Steinfeld 16:15

Yeah, well, let me back it up, saying I think one of the reasons this is generational. I think my grandmother and my mother were all had some experience, because my mother, particularly is has this fear of cats. And I said, What is it about cats? And she says, the eyes. And that happened to happen to her when 1947 the year of Roswell, when she was living out in the southwest, which I put together, as you know, probably a time for her contact. So every generation, they kind of modify the genetics of of each, you know, my grandmother and then my mother and then me. So by the time maybe they get to me, my genetic makeup is more aligned with what these beings who want our genetic material to use. So it's a long range plan. This is it's not just my theory, but it makes sense. So the Grays who seem to be doing these abductions, the theory is they've reached the end of their evolutionary cycle. They weren't able to reproduce their species anymore because they my theory again, they focus more on intellect, and they lost the passion. They lost the the you know, you they hit a dead end in the life experience, because they were here to feel. Feeling is the key, and they had bred that out of them. So they needed what humans have a lot of emotion, and emotion is in the cellular structures, like people have had heart or lung or liver transplant, take on a lot of the characteristics of the donor. So there's something within the DNA that is of emotional value that we have yet to discover. So in the abduction experiences, the reason I think it's happening is that they want our genetics to integrate with their high intellect to create this other species, which Bashar is the result of his people, the Sasani. People from ssani are part of the human hybrid experiments that went on because the Grays wanted us to re to integrate our our favorite pastime is being emotional. But in order for them to have this incredible these beings of incredible intellect and the ability to have compassion as well, so that's what they were lacking because they focused so much on intellect. Yeah, they hit a dead end. So when I met Bashar, he said that to me. He called me great, great great great great great grandfather, because some of my genetics went into his direct line, I suppose. I mean, so that was kind of fun and exciting and interesting. So that's the backstory for that. And I said, Yeah, because, you know, he's like, says 300 years into the future, and they're made up of human gray hybridization. And because they have our human element, they were able to have the compassion and love they needed for them to get to the next level of their evolution. We're, we're, we're, we're getting somewhere with our capacity to. Feel others and to be, you know, have that group sense, but we still have that animal instinct in us, which, you know, creates wars and violence and awful things. So, you know, we're in our own evolutionary cycle. Hopefully.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:16

It's interesting, and we talked about this before we started to record that years back, we spoke a lot about abduction, and now I don't hear about it hardly anymore on my channel, and I haven't thought about it for a long time, but I did have some weird experiences myself way back when, but I was doing the show I was going to interview. I think it was Richard Nielsen, and the day before that night, I had a really powerful dream with a lot of lights in front of the mirror, and I had problems walking like I remember I was walking through my living room. I think I was awake, but very like foggy in my brain, because it was in the middle of the night, and I couldn't walk on my leg at all. And I was like, what's going on? I can't walk. And then I stood in front of the mirror, and it was like this heavy, heavy light and a lot of noise, and I just felt that, like my The room was going to explode somehow. And I think I've actually suppressed it a bit, because it's hard for me to remember now I was a bit freaked out, and a few months later, I woke up in like in the morning, and I couldn't walk on that same leg, like my leg did not work. I went to the hospital like I limped all day long, and I was going through a birthday to my best friend, and I was like, I can't walk on my leg, so I can't come and she was like, What are you speaking about? And I went to the hospital. They were like, we can't find anything wrong, but I didn't have any strength in my leg. And then intuitively, intuitively, I felt, you know, tomorrow I'll wake up and I'll be okay. I'll just be okay. And I felt somehow that it was something metaphysical that had happened, sort of, I've tapped into a parallelize or something, and then the way, the next day, I was fine. I was totally fine. And I was like, what was that? And I've also woken up with, now is coming back to me, my gosh, with some scars on my leg where I'm like, What is that about? But they disappeared, though. But it was like, I couldn't, I didn't have long nails at that time. I couldn't have, like, scratched myself, like it was some scars that did not make sense. And I was single at the time. I, you know, I was totally alone. And that was 10 years ago, I think so, yeah, I don't know if you have any comments on that.

Alan Steinfeld 22:48

I have a lot of comments in that. What I got when you're talking about your leg is that they were, they were adjusting. I mean, I'm just making this, I don't know, but they were, they were reformatting you. There may have been some past, maybe a past life memory, actually, that you were holding in your body that needed to be worked out and worked through and modified. But you know, because you're doing this show, because you're in contact with a lot of people, your vibration is higher, not to compare you with anyone else, but you're open. Your mind is open, and I think it's because you're a contactee. Somehow, you have a history, and your mission is to awaken other people to this higher dimension, these new realities, we'll call my show. But these, you know, this wisdom, not just North, way beyond the north, it's beyond that. But, you know, but so you're a messenger, an ambassador, and someone who, I think, because of, I mean, there's a reason you're doing this, is because you've been seated before coming into this incarnation on a mission to be a connection point to these other realms and and getting back to the idea of abductions not happening, I think they finished that phase of genetic infusions into creating the hybrid. So they may still be working with us on some level, but the the initial phase. Because I think if you listen to Whitley Strieber, you know he had 200,000 letters from people who claiming similar experiences to him in the 80s and nine I think the key points were starting with Betty and Barney hill in the 60s, 70s, 80 and I think it really kind of finished its experiment. I think, I mean, some people claim they're still having abduction but they may be remembering abductions. It happened a while ago. So I think the high points were the 80s and 90s, where they were really doing this on a massive scale. And now they have all the genetic information that they may need. Their whole way of thinking about reality, my feeling about the ETS, whatever they are, maybe they're interdimensional. They don't think the same way we think. The closest I've come to that is working with these autistic kids, you know about the telepathy tapes, right? Yes, where I just did an interview with this young kid named Alex, who was so cosmic and so intelligent, it was like sitting with like a master, you know, like, because, and I'll show you, send you that interview. Actually, if you want to interview him, he's brilliant. He has to spell everything out on the letter board, but the frequencies of thought that were coming through his mind when I was sitting next to him expanded me just to be in that capacity. And that's similar to, I think, how these beings think, you know, their their vast consciousness, which we have the potential to access, is what's upgrading us to the next level of of our civilization, of human potential, and it's like our capacity for telepathy. This gets into remote viewing. You know, telepathy is the language of the universe. They don't you can use these sounds that we're using on Earth, but thought to thought communication is the real gift of higher intelligence, and we have that. We have that potential thoughts enter our heads all the time. You know, we could send our consciousness anywhere in the universe, because we're connected to the quantum field, which is everywhere, all the time, all at once, so we have that, and we're just taught, this is my theory. By the time you're five years old, you're taught you ABC, 123, you're taught to put things into a very linear box that activates the left brain and shuts down the right brain, which is the telepathic, dreaming brain and the creative brain. So by focusing so much on linear, rational, conceptual, you know, thinking, we lose our psychic abilities our side. We don't lose it. It's just put on the back shelf. And the way we remote view is accessing the right brain again, because that's the part that's connected to infinity, to our divine self. It's this Right Brain Awareness that is the Divinity that's what's flowing through our our consciousness all the time that connects us to the flow of forever. And so these beings, these et beings, if they are ETS, they're something, live in that modality of thought. You know, they live in that flow. They live in that presence. I think most of them, and we live in the past or the future, most of us, so when we're present and we are tapped out and we're not thinking, we're knowing your your left brain thinks, and your right brain knows. So your left brain doesn't know anything. It just thinks it knows something. This is the kind of lecture I give in my remote viewing. Knowing is not about thinking like, do you know you're on this streamyard call? Or do you are you? Do you think you are? No, you know you are. Because that's the direct gestalt of being. You don't have to think about it. You know it. You know you're in the room there, you know it. So thinking about it actually removes you from the actual presence of being. So there's something about the right brain which is knowing, and there's something about the left brain, which is thinking. So we're just taught to think in school. There's nothing wrong with that. You need to be a whole brain being. There's nothing wrong with thinking. But it's not like knowing. Knowing is the direct connection to the All Wise knowing intelligence, which we are, if you think about that, if you're never going to get to know Him, if you're thinking, but you can merge the two, so you could be both, both a whole being. Does that make sense? Hey, guys,

Jannecke Øinæs 29:53

I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes. And my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness, to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness. Love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below. And now let's go back to the episode. Yeah, and I'd love to jump over to remote viewing in a minute. I just want to sort of ask you about disclosure, because having interviewed so many people about this and really knowledgeable people, I'm curious, what do you think about I mean, I know you think that we can't, no longer ignore this phenomenon, and we also need to upgrade our perceptions to meet These beings at a higher frequency. And I'm also curious, when we speak about disclosure, what is it disclosure of? Because from my understanding, there are trillions of beings out there, like infinite of different beings. So are we speaking about disclosure of the Zetas, the grace maybe the plate is like a few species, or, yeah, it just dropped into my mind because the universe is vast.

Alan Steinfeld 31:31

Yes, you're absolutely right. And it's a really good question. And you know, if we go back to the Concept left brain, it's like we think the we live in a Dead universe. It's like we're like a freak of nature. Human life is just a freak, and life, and the Earth is the only place in this, in this vast cosmos there, there's life. But I think life is an emergent property of creation. It's emergent. It emerges. It's it's there. So the purpose of disclosure is to what's being discussed. Is the government's suppression of this secret. And why do we need the government? Well, we don't really need the government, except it's like the church in the Middle Ages, when Copernicus and Galileo said, Well, you know, the Earth is not was center of the universe. It was suppressed because it would throw off the belief systems of what their dogma was teaching. So it's similar with this if, if the government acknowledges disclosure, it means there's a lot more to reality than we suspected. And we know that because we've had those contact but the consensus reality is no, that's weird. Let's put that in the box, and there is not emerging with the collective consciousness, with people's individual experiences. When that happens, when consensus reality meets the experiencers, contact ideas or happenings, then there's a new awakening of a new reality, or new realities which, which changes how we think of the past. You know, well, were humans manipulated? Were it kind of creates a vertical axis of history, and it changes what we know the world. It changes our ideas of we start with religion, but biology. Did we come here from someplace else? Did we it changes our ideas of technology? Obviously, whatever is coming here is not filling up their gas tank to get here. So it has a huge economic impact. So this is like the the game we're playing with the officials that say, no, no, no, there's nothing here. Move along. It's a business as usual. And the people that are starting to revolt, this is really a Citizens Movement, because we know the universe is full of life. It has to be. It just doesn't make sense. And but for the most part, people are kept in a little box of knowing and disclosure gives us socially permission to explore these unknown realities that a lot of us are doing individually, but when it takes on a public forum. I think it also gives these beings more permission to enter our reality. And so that's what we're playing with. Yeah, we don't need the government to tell us this is real, because obviously it is, obviously. Things are happening to view but the collective understanding of human past and future has movement when we realize we're part of a cosmos that Earth is not an anomaly. There's there's beings here who I think, want to help us, maybe not all of them, but they want us to upgrade just what we're talking about, our mode of consciousness, the way you know we are, the consciously impaired. They want us to move into the realm of our full potential so we become equal participants of the greater reality. When I interviewed Bruce Lipton, he's not so much into this phenomena, but he said, We are not humans until we create humanity. That's when we realize we're all part of some great being, great super organism that that is us, like, like all the cells in your body are not separate. They're all creating this awareness. So when we all come together and we realize we're all connected, we create a synergy of awareness, which is our collective awareness is greater than the individual awareness, like all the cells in your body are forming. So when we come together, we realize we're all connected, and we speak with one voice of humanity that will allow the other ones to come together and meet us, to form the next level of evolution. So we think we're separate from them. We think we're separate from each other when we come together as one, and then we meet the other ones, which we also use consciousness as the modality of of connection, because it's consciousness, it's the same. They may access it differently, but we meet the others, we realize our synergy of awareness with them that creates the next level of super organism with us and them and the oneness. And it's evolution, that's how I see it. So, so right now, we're working through the difficulties of of dogmatic restriction to know we're part of this. But in a way, it's good that friction pushing against the truth, the quest for truth, solidifies a movement, solidifies the knowing, and all of it lets us do these podcasts, which is inquiry into the phenomena that gives like a foundational background for other people learning about this. If they government just said, Oh yeah, there's something here, we wouldn't have this, this homework we've done to make ourselves open to this. It's like, Oh, they're here. What do we do with that? But no, we are working through, and I think we're at the end of that, working through the the frontier, integration of that. So we're in the frontier, we're in the jungle, chopping down the foliage of clearer path. So the the meaning of the others, I think is my theory to be more integrated into a bigger time space flow of reality. Does that make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 38:30

Yeah, it does. And let's jump over to remote viewing. And maybe that is connected, because maybe we could can use remote viewing to connect with these beings.

Alan Steinfeld 38:43

It's actually happening. The government is actually doing it because, like I said, if telepathy or consciousness is the language of the universe, then our infinite nature is connected to other beings. Infinite nature, because consciousness is infinite, it's in the flow. So they may be using it different, like people use different languages. They may be using their consciousness differently, but the way we connect to these other beings is through this sense of knowing, again, the sense of being. It's not thinking, you can't think, Oh, you have to know the telepathic flow of thought is knowing it's like it comes into your heads, and you can question it, because maybe you should. But this idea that consciousness is non local, so if consciousness is, sorry, cameras moving, if consciousness is non local, then it's not, not just here, it's everywhere, including other planets, other sources and other other dimensions. So when we can attune our conscious awareness. Awareness to go beyond just this 3d realm. We can know everything about anything anywhere, and that's how remote viewing works. Remote viewing is your ability to tap into something non locally. So we have to do that by accessing the right brain that sort of connects the two subjects,

Jannecke Øinæs 40:22

right? And I'm curious, because you are conducting courses about this. So can you share a little bit about how we can remote view?

Alan Steinfeld 40:31

Yes, it's that's a good question. So let's just say we have to remove this, this thinking mind, and we start to first. So how we would do remote doing is, let's say I have a picture on my desktop here. I'm looking at something, and I want you to tune in to what I'm looking at. So you have to sort of come here look through my eyes and see what I'm seeing, which happens all the time. So you're, you have to remote view, non locally, something I'm looking at. Or maybe it's better when you're actually in a place. So I'm, I'm like calling you from someplace and say, Okay, tell me where I am. And you just shut off your thinking brain. And when you shut off thinking, you create a vacuum of knowing you have to become empty. You have to trust that you are connected to the flow of forever. And when I say, Okay, can you tell me where I am? Then for me, this happens. This is how I do it. Pictures just start flowing into I get a picture, get a picture of the Eiffel Tower, maybe you're in Paris. You know, sometimes they're overlaid by ideas that are attached to the way we understand the world. But if we can get really, really empty, and this is what I teach, you drop into neutral and you say, Okay, let's tune into this person. Or sometimes you're just given numbers that represent a target. The numbers just directly represent something that's been entangled with a location or even an event. You can remote do events. So I just give people the number, I say, set your GPS like a GPS, set your intention on what this is entangled with. And people get these answers some. So I have this one target. These are targets, remote viewing. Have you done shows on remote viewing before?

Jannecke Øinæs 42:37

No, not so much.

Alan Steinfeld 42:39

All right, so the target is what the non local object is. So I say and assign numbers what they call controlled remote viewing, CRV. And so I have these numbers that don't mean anything. They're just an arbitrary place setter for the target, but it's entangled with the target, like the numbers do are because I've made that association for people, I entangle it. You You can give me number. You entangled it. That's the power of our consciousness. So I get people these numbers, and then they get impressions, and they don't get the whole impressions. It's like the right brain gets the raw material and the left brain makes a story out of it. So you don't want to make a story out of this, because that's how the left brain understands things. It's a story. The right brain is raw material. So I might get someone might give me numbers they might get. Okay, I'm seeing a barren landscape. I'm seeing shadows. I'm seeing not much atmosphere. I'm saying I'm not just seeing it, because it's not just remote viewing. You're actually using your whole body as an instrument of knowing. Some people smell, some people hear, but I'm a visual person, so I said, Okay, I'm see something, and then you draw all that down, you don't try to guess what that place is. Guessing is the left brain. You try to get all the elements, and you say, all right. And then you could, like, the first thing you actually do is just draw someone gives you a number. You just make a quick sketch without thinking. This is not thinking. You want to trap into knowing, and then you might get descriptions like, you know, empty bound. So I said, after all this, like you could do remote for hours getting description and and if you try to make a guess, but then when everything's together, you kind of go into that intuitive space and you say, Well, is it the moon landing? And yes, it was the moon landing when I did that remote doing so, you know, so there's, it's sort of magic, I have to say, the way it works. When people get the target, it's like I had one target. And I know. One knew what it was, just a number. And someone says, Well, I'm getting a statue in an island. Is it the Statue of Liberty? And they don't ask people to guess, but if they have all the key elements, I say, Okay, what's an educated guess there? And then when they get it, they really sort of freak out, because I, I asked them, How did you know? How did you do that? And they say, I the most common answer is, I don't know. I don't know how I did it, because we're not really having right brain, left brain communicate. The right brain is getting this information. It's receiving things. Any place you put your attention. You could do it right now. Could say, Okay, where's your husband? If you got get out of the way and and let go of all the ideas you had. Well, it's harder to do with someone you know, but because you have all these expectations, that's what they call analytical overlays, where you think you're thinking before you're knowing. If I asked you, okay, where's my mother? Let's say you would be able to tune in easier because you don't know anything about the less you know, the easier is to get the target because the left brain is out of her way. So that was an example I gave you. You think, you think you know somebody, then you think you have all these ideas, but you don't know them. That gives you more permission to totally let go of thinking and to know, knowing is available to each one of us all the time. It is. It's a miracle. I see miracles in these remote doing classes happen. It's like I say to people, because you are connected to forever, someone called Remote doing a gateway drug to your divinity. But it is. It's a gateway to your divinity, and it's an awareness of how infinite we are, that we are transcendent of time and space as a part of us. That's like, as Joe Dispenza says, connected to the quantum field, it is throw. It is flowing through you. Janika, every moment of the day, those thoughts coming through you right now, you're not thinking them, they're thinking you. That's the flow of forever into your right brain, making you present, listening to everything that's being said and being here in the infinite moment of now, that's the miracle I think of remote doing. Does that make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 47:32

Yeah, okay, I just have to understand I'm not thinking my thoughts, but they're thinking me

Alan Steinfeld 47:40

or they're coming into your head. These thoughts are coming to you. This is what the Aborigines told me. This is dream time when you get out of the way, like you're falling asleep, and you have your own thoughts, and then some other thing comes into you, this flow, right? You know that moment where you're thinking, and then suddenly you drop into a deeper space, which the Aborigines called dream time. And then these images are just coming into you, because it is the flow of forever, is what I call it, that's always running into our right brain. It's, it's the dream time. We're always dreaming, in a sense, but your conscious mind, your left brain, makes such a loud noise, we don't notice the dream and so but we are. We are, this is the dream, and when you can tap into that dream world, or what the telepathy kids do, they are already connected to this. That's how they could go to the Hill and be totally telepathic. Well, it's that same mind awareness, I call it, fifth dimensional thinking, that connects us to the ETS, and so that's what they're using. They're not greater than us. They're equal to us. They may be more intelligent because they have more capacity in exploring these avenues, but we are of the same consciousness material as these beings are, at least that's my feeling, and what they want us to do is meet them on an even playing field. You know, where we're not worshiping them, we're not fearing them where we're equal to them in capacity, and this is my theory, anyway. And when we could do that, we take more responsibility for the planet, for each other. You know, we we come into this super consciousness state, and we just know a greater reality. This is, this is the moment we're in now. Can't you feel it like where? I think that's why we're getting together in Sedona, all these people, because the the the moment is upon us, this moment of. Of it feels like that. Maybe people have always this moment of transformation. Transformation. Everything you've been working for and all the programs you've been doing, I think everything you've been feeding into your awareness is leading us to this point of transformation, it seems

Jannecke Øinæs 50:21

like could you share, like, one experience you've had with remote viewing personally that has, yeah, blown you away.

Alan Steinfeld 50:33

All right, I'll share one. So we do targets in my classes, so we start with objects, then we do places like cities or, you know, statuary or something. But I think the key thing is to do events like to go back in time and seeing what's happening. So it was one event that it was a basic because what you could do, also, when you go back and remote, do a past event, you could see what else is going on there that may not be in the historical record. I'm not saying you should absolutely trust that, but if everyone in the class gets the same sense, and like I've done the Kennedy assassination, which is pretty intense, but it's not the one I'm going to talk about, but you get more of a picture than what we've been told. It's like astral archeology, I call it. But anyway, so someone gave me these target numbers, this numbers, and of course, it could be any event ever in human history. So I'm a visual person, like I said, So I tune into the numbers and it's like a GPS, so I get numbers, and it's like, all you do is set your intention. You want to get as much out of the way, but the idea is to, like you setting your GPS for a destination, and that's all the doing you have to do. The rest is you are getting empty with your focus on that, but you're not doing anything. You're allowing this to come through. I'm trying to tune into some event sometime in history. So I see this big open field, and is in my mind's eye, and I see this woman, kind of dressed in this kind of turn of the century clothing. There these big dresses and big hats like sitting on the field, and the fields like near some water, and I'm just seeing this image. I say, Okay, what? What's the event here? I You can ask the target or yourself, you can ask, yeah, okay, show me something. So I said, What is the event here? And then I see this, like old airplane flying towards me, or towards like the view. And I said, Well, could it be? And it just came into my mind the Wright Brothers first flight. And it was that, it was, it's like, Oh, my God. I don't know how I got that, but it came to me, and it was that. And it's like it comes from a place beyond thought. That's the miracle of this. And when it happens to people, and I've had like a target. There was this town in Greece with these blue roofs and these white and everyone got that from in their own way. It's like, wow. There was like this effect where the whole class went through this like, higher level of excitement and energy, because somehow, and it's like, sometimes somebody gets up, this is what the CIA would do. Because the remote viewing project started with the CIA because they wanted to keep up with the Russians who had a psychic spying program. And the CIA said, we can't let the Russians do anything we don't do. So they created, from Stanford Research Institute, what's called the, well, the one psychic Ingo Swann said, No, let's remote view these things. So it sounded a lot better than psychic spying. So the remote viewing term created by Ingo Swann has stuck for, you know, the last 50 years that started in the 70s, of course, people been remote viewing. The great psychics and visionaries and seers have been doing this, you know, since there was mystical awareness for 1000s of years. But now the phenomena is taken out of like dogmatic understanding and put back into human potential, and it is when people start to do it, and then people getting different aspects of the target. It's like, we've all seen the same movie. That's the raw material. But you say, Oh, I'm seeing the like this actor saying. Something. I'm seeing this other person, I'm seeing the scenery. So everyone, that's how the CIA would work. Would get little pieces of the target, because you don't really get the whole target all at once. You get aspects of the target. And everyone puts it so they work in teams where, okay, I got I got this, you got that? Let's put this together and create a coherent picture of it. So, and it happens also when we the next step I do in remote is go off planet. We go to other planets, other civilizations say, okay, what are you getting here? What am I getting here? What are they saying to you there? What is the telepath telepathic message? So it makes the group experience really exciting when everyone really can get the skill of remote viewing together, like we all got this down, we're all getting parts of this target, and then we put our pieces together. It's like you form this great puzzle, you see what the puzzle is saying, and you get this big, wider aspect, because you're looking here, I'm looking there. And we're all tuned into the same thing. We are really discovering something unknown where we're you know, what was that Star Trek we're going, where no one's gone before, you know, really, in a sense, to these other planetary civilizations. And if it's true, great. I mean, but because people are getting similar things in their own private way, I think maybe we actually really are going to places, but you can only do that after the remote viewing skill is really developed, where everyone in the class is sort of getting the targets, and then we go off plan. And then where are we all getting the same target? Are we really making contact? And it seems like maybe we are, and these beings are talking to us when we visit them. And I don't want to go too far out there, because no way to prove this, but this is something that I think people inside the military are using to see who's on a UFO or to see what the intention is, because intention is a big part of remote viewing. And so this infinite connection to the right brain. The right brains in Connect. Connection to forever gives us this potential of being humans in a whole other way. You know, we could read each other's minds. We could feel each other. You can't lie if you're telepathic. You know, there's no hiding that. You know it makes Russell Targ, who taught me remote viewing from the Stanford region Research Institute, said there's no more lies in this next level. You can't lie to these telepathic kids. They know everything you're thinking. I mean, this kid, Alex, he I felt him come into my mind. It was so weird. It felt like this little buzzing this other young girl named li do enters her mother's dreams. She enters her dreams and tells her things in her dreams they should see my interview with Dahlia and Li do where and Li do doesn't have to be sleeping to enter her mother's dreams. This is the potential of consciousness that we're just discovering. And it really is miraculous who we really are. Janika, you're going to meet the woman who in Sedona, Diane Hennessy, who discovered these kids were telepathic, discovered these autistic kids that you couldn't even talk to because they're they don't act normally like conditioned human beings. They are just so out there, and they're so they're pretty intense too. Their energies can be really but they're so amazing to meet and connect with that they are opening the doors to the next level of human evolution. Isn't that amazing? Interesting?

Jannecke Øinæs 59:06

Yeah, I'm going to dive deeper into that, and I can't wait. Wow. Interesting to me. It sounds a bit like it that it is the same as doing a reading, reading yourself, reading others like I've been doing that and been taught how to do that reading through my third eye, where I read others or read myself, or being clairvoyant, or having all these Claires, it's just different words on it, right and then, and also, and Also, you probably,

Alan Steinfeld 59:39

yeah, yeah, yeah, it's about clairvoyance. It's that same muscle just using a different when you're doing reading on people, it just comes into you, right? You're not thinking it's exactly the same thing. It really is. So you're doing that, you could probably be a really good remote viewer. I mean, the problem that happens in RE. Readings and psychic readings like when the psychic says, When the psychic interprets things for you, or when you interpret, you know when you say, Oh, it must. You can let if they're speaking truth, you know it you don't have to interpret. And lots of times, the psychic doesn't even know why they're saying something, and they usually go off course when they interpret it through their left brain. But a real psychic will just give you right just the download information. And it's exactly the same with remote feeling you when you get in the way and you think, Oh, it must be this, this, or this, or if you let it come to you, it's different. You know that's really so important. What the Aborigines told me was that dream time is always flowing into us when we get out of the way, when we just are empty, because the mind consciousness is never empty. It's always being filled by potential. So if you just get quiet and tune into somebody, maybe sitting across, you could give them a reading. You could know what, because your focus is not on your inner world. You're empty. And whatever impressions you might feel something in your body, or you might, you know, you know, if you're a clear vessel, you're picking up the energies and essences of the other person. You could help them, because we all need the feedback, because we get in our own way. So sit with like someone who's out of the way and get a feedback. You know, this is the next, also, the next phase of human evolution. We're part of being there for each other in a clear way, right?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:47

Yeah, and I think part of the work is becoming that clean filter as much as possible, because we all have our filters, and it's a matter of how thick is that filter, or how cleared out is it? And that's something we all have to work on, I think, in that process. But yeah, I think we all can do that. It's just having focus and practicing it. That's not something we learned in school, but maybe we will in a few years. Now, this has been super interesting, Alan, I loved having you on the show. Finally, after all these years, right?

Alan Steinfeld 1:02:28

I know you're so open, that's why I can just go out there about do you have more to say?

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:34

Sorry, yes, yes. I have a few questions I ask everyone, and my first question is, what is self love to you?

Alan Steinfeld 1:02:42

Alan, oh, that's so good, because that's so important. You know, that's why the one thing I learned from this woman, this channel, zazar, says, Know Your Magnificence without ego. So I think so it's appreciating. Well, I appreciate that. You know, I just kind of made my own way in the world, my own I you know, I've been doing these. I mean, I started on public television, public access television, the 90s, doing interviews, just because I wanted to know what other people knew I want. I'm curious. You know, it's like I've done all the workshops. I did all the, you know, read all the books. Now, what can I sorry, I don't know why this keeps moving. What can I learn in person from this? So I start to interview people, and that was the most exciting thing. So the fact of my self love is honoring my curiosity. If they want to put into a word, I love always something more to know. I mean, that's why I have all these books on my shelves. And you know, it's like so self love. But of course, we can always have more of it, you know, you make a mistake, you do that, and it's like forgiving. Self forgiving is self love forgiving. The past, I'm still working. I think it's a constant work of self loving, you know. And I do appreciate that question, because it reminds me to keep polishing the glass, you know. So, yeah, that's a good question. I love that. And thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:41

And my final question is, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Alan Steinfeld 1:04:47

Well, I do have a whole theory about that. You know, I call it the we're here, according to one of my teachers, to make known the unknown at. Means we're here to be creators. We're here not to do the same thing everyone else does, and find and figure out a way you can fit into the system, the cookie cutter system, and be a part of something no we have to cut our way through the jungle ourselves, form our own path and be creators like let we're here to be creators, to emulate creation. So we're here to do something new. We're here to bring an unknown value into the world. You're doing these programs, and they're each of them are new and different and original because of your energetic maybe it's curiosity, but you're doing something new and unknown because that's what you want to do. This is your creative activity. I'm sure you have a lot others. The act of creation is bringing something that's never been here before. Could be the painting. It could be whatever flower you into creation. So we can feel more. So we're here to make none the making only unknown by feeling new realities, by having new experiences. When you do something new, you're adding to someone else's expansion of knowing, and so your creation is adding to their sense of feeling and expansion. If you write a song, if you do a dance, you do a video, you're bringing creation as creator to someone who's now opening to this next level. I call it the flowering of humanity, when everyone's here to do their creative work and be creators in emulating creation, because we're here in a creation, but we're we're a fractal of that creation, so we're here to create. Then the world shifts into this other level of reality where we honor each person's creation, and, you know, and the feeling we're getting from from that person's creation, because you're giving me a feeling just the way you look and listen all that that's a creative act. You're adding to me, and then I'm adding to you, and maybe other people seeing or adding so we keep adding the expanse of the unknown and making it known by expanding our capacity to feel. And we're here to choose. We're not just here to have relationships and family and all that. That's great. That's a byproduct of activating the field with new creations you were. That's our main purpose, I believe, because when you eventually have owned it all. We have felt everything that you can feel as a human. We go to the next level. Maybe some people call that ascension, but we're here to feel the capacity, total capacity, of the human experience and all its known and unknown values, and when we can own it all on a human level, I mean owning where you've had it, where you could walk down the street and look everyone in the eyes, old and young, rich or poor, and you would say, I know what that feels like. Then the I think the cellular structures in your body start to ignite with a frequency of of of light, and then the the ascension from the human realm to the next dimensional awareness is ignited in the individual and the collective, and we bring this vibrational essence of this planet to this next level, to learn new have new experiences, to learn a greater capacity of feeling and knowing, to expand our capacity of soul potential, because it's registered in the soul. Every feeling you've ever had in every lifetime is registered in the soul. Some people call it Akashic Record. I just call it the soul as an experience, as a feeling, sensation. So expansion of feelings is the purpose of life, because that's what creation is all about. I feel, it's my opinion, and that's the magic of creation. Is your ability. I see what a beautiful feeling person you are, because you take everything in and you and your soul is speaking and feeling, and that's speaking soul to soul is what the reason we're here.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:54

That was profound. Thank you so much. And now if people want to connect with you or follow your work on YouTube. Can you guide them where to go?

Alan Steinfeld 1:10:02

Yes, well, I will be doing more remote viewing courses. You can go to my website, newrealities.com, I'm doing a retreat in Sedona after our event with Suzanne. I'm doing a week later, I'm doing a remote viewing psychic mediumship. You know, I'm learning to see through blindfolds, like these people are doing telekinesis, how to hold a light bulb and light it up. I haven't done that yet, but moving objects from across the room. Remote viewing, of course, but that's a whole like live in workshop I'm doing at the end of March that'll be on my website. That's one way to find me, my website for my events, my YouTube channel, that's youtube.com/newrealities. So I'm always talking to I'm always fine. I always don't you love the people you're talking to. So I learned so much from people I talked to.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:58

Oh yes, oh yeah, I feel so high after each interview. You know, that's part of why I love it. It just feels so good afterwards. And I feel so present, you know, I feel so alive. So that's part of why I'm doing this. And of course, people can connect with you and me in Sedona, and I'm so excited about that. I just want to plug it even more, because Suzanne, who is the host of it all, she has gathered so many amazing speakers. Also Darryl Anka, who I'm interviewing tomorrow. I can't wait to meet him live. You're going to be there. Sarah Elkhaldy, so many. Sarah Breskman Cosme so many amazing speakers.

Alan Steinfeld 1:11:40

Not only that, it's the land of Sedona. When we go out on the land and feel the energy, because you know, the rocks are red, right? I asked you last time, you know why they're red, right? But what makes them red? No, not really. Well. What makes your blood red? I'm sure you have blood is the iron in your blood, okay, because it's iron, and the iron is there to attract the oxygen, because iron attracts oxygen, that's what you know oxidization is. But Sedona has red rocks because of the iron in the rocks that is attracting more oxygen. So you're in an oxygen rich in atmosphere, and the iron also creates a magnetic field. Magnets are made out of iron, so you're in this magnetic field that's also heightening our perceptions and awareness, which makes it a kind of contact point for a lot of experiences to happen. We're going to have Chris bluzzo there. Who you know, who he is. He is now. He is the like most looked at UFO contactee of our time right now. Chris bluzzo, he wrote a book called UFOs of God. You should interview him. He's one of the most loving and compassionate people you'll ever meet. He's going to be leading a CE five where he calls them in. It's like they show up. This ships show up when he's around. So he calls, we're going to go out into a field in Sedona and call these ships in. And I would say 100 out of 100% of the time they show up for Chris, and so they will probably show up for us.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13:25

Oh my goodness, I can't wait. Thank you so much. Alan, it was such a joy having you on the show. Thank you for all the amazing work you're doing.

Alan Steinfeld 1:13:33

Thank you for your questions and for your sincerity and for your I feel your presence. I feel your opening. So thank you for that in your interviews and this one, so I'm sure they happen in others. So that gives the person you're talking to a kind of grounding point to go as far out there, because you're grounding it through your present awareness. So thank you for that creative activity. Thank you. We'll talk again soon. I appreciate it. Okay, bye, bye.

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