“Something big is happening.” Vedic astrologer Joni Patry has been reading the stars professionally for more than 45 years, and once a year she joins Jannecke to share what she sees ahead. This time her message is clear: October is significant, but November 2026 is the biggest turning point of the year. Yet beneath the warnings lies a deeply hopeful message about where humanity is heading.
A Rare Alignment and a Rise in Consciousness
According to Joni, the most important thing happening in 2026 is an elevation of consciousness. The three outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, formed a rare sextile, and when Jupiter triggered them in July, it acted like a wake-up call for the collective. Traditional Vedic astrologers do not use the outer planets, but Joni believes they shape the collective unconscious. “This alignment has never happened,” she says, “and I know it is changing people’s minds, what they think, what they feel.”
Why November Matters
Joni’s method is to look back in history. When similar configurations appeared before, what happened? One pattern she has followed for years is Mars crossing a previous eclipse degree, which in her experience often coincides with major events.
In early November 2026, Mars crosses that point, and around November 9 and 10 it reaches what Vedic astrology calls Gandanta, a sensitive degree associated with losing control. Joni expects an intense period from around November 9 to 25, with leadership changes around the world and possibly severe weather. She also points to March and April 2027 as another turning point.
Joni is clear that predictions are not meant to create fear. “Astrology is a tool for guidance,” she says. With free will, we can prepare, make wiser choices and even avert what we see coming.
Hope for 2027
After the turbulence, Joni sees light. In August 2027, Jupiter and Venus align again on the fixed star Regulus, the heart of the lion. She believes someone new may step forward in leadership, and she prays it will be someone who brings unity rather than division. She also sees energies of peace beginning to emerge.
From “I Believe” to “I Know”
Looking further ahead, Joni explains the move from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius, still a few hundred years away. Pisces, she says, is “I believe,” the age of belief systems. Aquarius is “I know,” an age of knowledge, technology and higher consciousness. She also notes that according to Vedic tradition, we are on the cusp of leaving the Kali Yuga, the darkest age of humanity.
How to Stay Centred
Joni’s most important advice is simple: find your tribe. Connect with like-minded people, pray, meditate and turn to the divine when fear arises. Remember that what you put out, you get back. “We can make the difference by making a difference within ourselves,” she says.
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Transcript of the interview
Joni Patry 0:00
Something big is happening. This alignment has never happened, and I know it is changing people's minds, what they think, what they feel, consciousness. October is poignant, but November is the biggest turning point for this year. I can guarantee you that things are going to really be heated up November 9th through the 25th. The stars are always aligning for a divine reason to make certain things happen that we need to go through in order to change and evolve our evolutionary consciousness. But the light will prevail. It always does. These planets are energetic. They are vibration, their frequency, their power. Pisces is I believe, but Aquarius is I know. We will have the technology. We'll have the knowledge, the higher consciousness. This year, it's become more prevalent of alien life, age of disclosure. This is going to be the craziest time ever. I see 2027. There will be hope. We've all got to lock into this and be the light that we are.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:15
You're seeing potentials of what's coming. It might be challenging. How can we stay in our hearts calm and centred?
Joni Patry 1:23
What I'm about to talk about, everyone needs to prepare.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:33
Joni Patry, welcome to the Wisdom From North show.
Joni Patry 1:38
Thank you, Jannecke. I always love seeing you. You are so much fun to be with. Thank you for having me.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:46
It's lovely having you back, and I love how we meet approximately once a year, and you give an update to me and our audience about what's going on in the stars, in the planets, and how it's mirroring what's going on in human consciousness. And I feel like, from what I understand, we need to fasten our seatbelts about what's coming and brace ourselves, and we'll dive into that. But Joni, you are one of the world's most recognised Vedic astrologers. You've been working as a professional astrologer for more than 45 years, and some fun numbers. Apparently, you've done over 75,000 personal readings. Is that correct?
Joni Patry 2:27
Oh, absolutely! I love doing readings too. It's so much fun learning about people and the world.
Jannecke Øinæs 2:34
That's amazing. And you're an author. You also provide an app called Galactic Planner, and we're going to speak about later on that as well. But my first question to you today is: What is captivating you the most right now, cosmically, globally, and in your own life?
Joni Patry 2:53
Yes, there is so much going on, and the most important thing that I think that has happened in this year of 2026, is an elevation of consciousness. People are changing. Everything will be different. I've been saying that throughout this year. By the end of 2026, because there was this lineup of the three outer planets-Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto-and when Jupiter came in and triggered them all, they were all in a sextile. Which you know, I do Vedic astrology, and traditionally Vedic astrologers do not use the outer planets, but I feel like they elevate consciousness because they deal with the collective unconscious of the masses, and the fact that they formed this incredible formation that is so rare-it's like something big is happening. This alignment has never happened, and I know it is changing people's minds, what they think, what they feel. Consciousness. The world is changing, and I am so excited about it. I have so many things that I can tell you that this is instigating right now. And one thing that I have always been known to do is to go back historically to look at when there was ever any of these lineups before, and one of the things that I love to talk about the most are eclipses. And there was an amazing eclipse in August that changed everything. Again, along with this outer planet lineup, we have got some amazing things happening in the heavens that tells us so much about what's about to happen. And let me tell you, this month that we're in right now, October is poignant, but November is the biggest turning point for this year. I can guarantee you that. And what I'm about to. Talk about everyone needs to prepare. Is there anything you want to ask me about this before I get going into the depth of where we're headed?
Jannecke Øinæs 5:11
I'd love to go into the details, but before that, just to also honour those who are a bit new to astrology and wants to see the connection to do some ABCs, so as a Vedic astrologer, what are you seeing in the stars and the planets that is telling us that this has never happened in history before, and that we are in fact in a big shift of consciousness?
Joni Patry 5:39
Well, it's where the nodes are, and the nodes. And most people here probably are familiar with Western astrology, which we talk about Rahu and Ketu. These are the nodes of the moon. Rahu is the north node of the moon in Western, and K2 is the south node of the moon. And when they align with certain planets, especially the outer planets, this is what's so telling because this shifts consciousness. It shifts the world. Everything begins to change, and it's around the time of eclipses. Eclipses, I always call them wipeouts because the lights of the luminaries in a solar eclipse, the sun is darkened. In a lunar eclipse, the moon is darkened. And what happens around the time of eclipses is when the sun, the moon, and the earth actually are aligning. When they align, this changes the energetic patterns on the planet, absolutely for sure, but it's when they line up with other planets that makes it so different. And I used to go through all of these patterns. Well, I still do. What am I saying? But I wrote a book recently, last year, where I went through every year and the eclipses, and what happened before, and from that point, I can look into the future. Whenever these configurations are similar, there's nothing that will ever be exact. But when it's similar, that is when I can predict what happened before. So Rahu and Ketu, they are right now. Rahu's in Aquarius, and k2 is in Leo. Remember, I do Vedic astrology, and for those of you that know Western, the signs will fall backwards, almost a full sign. So I'm looking at the nodes. Right, Rahu is in Aquarius, and K and k2 is in Leo. They take 18 and a half years to return to the same positions. So you can go back 18 and a half year segments throughout time to see what happened before. And in 2007, the iPhone came out. And 1969, going back again, 18 and a half years. That was where we put a man on the moon. I know a lot of people say it didn't happen, but hey, I was around during that time and watched it on my television, and I remember the astronauts being so overwhelmed by the experience. I believe it happened, but not only that. In 1969 was actually the first email that was sent from one university to the other. So my whole point is, it's all about technology and invention, and moving into the future. That's what's happening now with AI, and AI is revolutionary. It will change the world forever in so many ways, and I know there's a lot of people that say, "Oh, it's not good. Other people say it's good. There's always a yin and a yang with everything. There's always a good and a bad. I think the best part about AI is we're going to have cures for diseases, invention, advance our consciousness, advance what we know. This is a good thing. It's an evolvement of evolution of humankind. Really, this is the start of it. How exciting and important is that? I believe it's monumental, and we will look back years from now and go, "Oh my God, that was the year that it all changed, and it's all here in the stars. But here is what I discovered: that every time you take an eclipse degree and you you sort of like pointed out in a chart, like a landmine, and Mars, the planet of action, the planet that makes things happen, crosses over that eclipse degree after an after the eclipse, something happens. It's like a triggering point. And I've gone back historically to prove this that this happened. As a matter of fact, on september 11, 2001, when Mars crossed opposed exactly the previous eclipse degrees, so it can be a conjunction or an opposition. That was 911, And repeatedly, every time. Now it doesn't always happen. Mars doesn't always come after an eclipse and cross over this degree. But when it does, an event happens. So most recently, the last eclipse in February, Mars crossed over the previous eclipse degree, so the eclipse happened in early February, and it was february 28 that Mars crossed over that eclipse degree, and that was when the United States started bombing Iran. So you see, it creates events.
So what I'm getting to is in November, there's going to be a day when Mars will cross over that previous eclipse degree, and by the way, the previous eclipse degree is 25 degrees of Cancer. On November 3rd, Mars will hit that previous eclipse degree, 2026. So I'm thinking, what could happen? Could there be attacks again? Could there be like a major event that changes things radically? My answer to that is yes, and then come to find out, that's and I know you know people are watching from all over the world, but in the United States, it is the midterm elections on that day they close. So Mars is usually violence, and Mars is in its debilitation sign in Cancer, really difficult placement. And when it crosses over this eclipse degree, I guarantee you, something crazy is going to happen. Here's another thing that happens in October, that it's going to be Mercury will go retrograde around the day. I believe it's October around the 19th. But during this time, the day that the elections for the midterms begin, Mercury goes retrograde. I looked this up. Therefore, we will not know the answer to these midterms. Everyone's going to be saying no foul play. It's you know we will not know, and there will be violence breaking out early November. Now, not only that. After this, like november 9 and 10th, I notice Mars will be at the final last degrees of Cancer. Mars number one does really poorly in Cancer, and that's why interest rates, everything's going up. Cancer's about the sign of family, homing, real estate, and it's getting harder and harder to be able to afford a home. And interest rates went up right when Mars entered Cancer. So now, when Mars hits the last degree of Cancer, this is something that we call in Vedic astrology Gandanta. Gandanta is when a planet is in the last two degrees of a water sign and the first two degrees of a fire sign, and it means literally. Well, it literally means a knot. But what my experiences are, and my teacher always taught me that it deals with a sense of drowning, losing control, being out of control, and it does literally mean that. So there will be massive floods and weather, severe weather. This is going to be around November 9 and 10th when it's 29 degrees of Cancer, then it goes into Leo, where Jupiter and K2 are. So there is this alignment of Mars, Jupiter, K2 around the 14th of November. And here's what's important to know about these degrees: they're Gandanta, which means out of control. Jupiter and Ketu in the sign of Leo is the sign of kings and rulers, leadership, presidents, and k2 is lost. Mars will accentuate it with violence with Jupiter makes it bigger. So after the big ordeals of these midterms, then we've got violence, then we've got attacks, and there could be a leader that is in danger around the world. Here is what I'm seeing. With these planets being in Leo, Leo, the the sign of rulers, there is danger for some ruler around the world. Whether it's in the United States, whether it's in Europe, anywhere, there's major shifts and changes in violence here. They're in danger. So this will take place from around. I think the things are going to really be heated up november 9 through the 25th. The 25th 26th Rahu in k2 will change signs. Thank goodness this. Well, I don't know if that's a thank goodness, but getting it out of Leo will, I think, be better. There's going to be a change, and so as I said, Rahu and Ketu, they actually stay in a sign for a year and a half, and it takes 18 and a half years for them to go through all 12 signs of the zodiac. So going back and looking at what happened when when Ketu was in Cancer and Rahu was in Capricorn, which they will move into these signs the end of November and stay there for a year and a half. Historically, I went back and there were those years had more earthquakes than normal, and another thing that happened-I believe it was 1989-was the fall of the Berlin Wall.
So there's hope for there's peace coming about, and a change with all the war and frustration that people have been feeling. So that's what we're looking at once the nodes change signs, but right before then, here is what I definitely see: there will be a big change of leadership around the world. Certain presidents may not be reelected. Certain presidents may go down, and this is going to create the big change I see happening globally, so November is a turning point, a huge turning point.
Jannecke Øinæs 17:07
Are you saying that in November, this November 2026, we might see a new president?
Joni Patry 17:14
Well, here's the thing with the midterms; it's like the president in the United States could lose power because the Senate and and the people that control the Senate and everything could overthrow the president, and because he has complete power now, he could lose power. But here's another thing I see: I see a big, I see a back and forth. Like yes, he's losing power. No, he's not. Yes, he's losing power. No, he's not. It's we're not going to know the results for a very long time. And here's another thing: because Mars is going to go retrograde. When planets go retrograde, it's like things are being brought back, and I often tell people, you know, even if you have a planet in your birth chart that's retrograde, it basically tells me you have unfinished business from a past life, and so what's going to happen? Mars is going to go retrograde in January, so you know it's in Leo cleaning out all the stuff with leaders and things like that, but it's going to retrograde back into this treacherous portion of 29 degrees of Cancer Gandanta early Leo. This will be next March and April of 2027, and during that time, we will have a huge revolutionary change again. That whatever happened in November will be reversed by, and people will have to pay retribution by by the springtime, and that's in the northern hemisphere. I forget about all my Australian crowd, but but just the end of March, early April is going to be a huge transformational change again. And actually, Mars will go back to that within a degree of the eclipse degree from August. So, whatever happens in November, watch that people will have to pay the price of whatever they did in November by March and April. So,
Jannecke Øinæs 19:38
interesting.
Joni Patry 19:39
There is going to be, I mean, this is going to be the craziest time ever. I'm really fascinated to see how how it all plays out. Just because I know that astrology works. So here's the thing: these planets are energetic. They they are vibrant. Their frequency, their power, and by following the stars and looking at where they go, we can see where the trends are going to go, and this can help us tremendously prepare for things. So I'm going to say November and March, April. We have to prepare. You know, have things where we can buckle down, not you know stay home. It's not the best time to travel during these times, and so that's why you want to know astrology to prevent things. And I have told many world leaders, you know, that they're in danger, their life is in jeopardy at certain points in time. I do this to help prevent things. People say, "Well, it didn't happen. Well, thank God it didn't happen because with astrology, you can avert things if you know that these energies are intense like this. That's why I put out warnings to prepare people to prevent, not to sit there and go, okay, this is definitely going to happen because you know we do have free will. We can change things, we can avert things. This is why we want to know our charts, not because we want to know our chart and everything's fixed in stone, and you just white knuckle it till it happens. No, astrology is a tool for guidance, and that is why I put out these predictions to help give us guidance into the future to prepare.
Jannecke Øinæs 21:34
It's really fascinating because I just had that thought in my mind: why you're so passionate about predictions and how it can help humanity, and as I was having that thought, you just started to speak about it. I love that. So you just explained it to us. So very specifically, do you mean that in certain parts of the world we should not get on an aeroplane in November and April, or certain places in the world, or how specific is it?
Joni Patry 22:01
I mean, it's going to be it's going to be very chaotic. And you know, if you do travel, if your chart is okay, your individual chart. If your chart is fine, in other words, you know, if I see in your chart there's no danger, yeah, you'll get places. There's like a million flights that take off a day, and you know if something terrible is going to happen, it won't be you know if your chart looks fine individually. Your chart, but you know when things get kind of out of hand, and you know radar systems go down, you know electronics, mechanicals, that's the kind of things that happen when we have these really intense aspects, everyone should know here that when Mercury goes retrograde, yeah, I mean we're not going to quit travelling, we're not going to quit signing contracts, we're not going to quit doing things. But you're more careful, and you know, like you know, when I used to be a flight attendant, I you know I couldn't call in sick every time Mercury would retrograde. So I just knew I needed to bring a lot of entertainment books to read because I would have mechanicals delays and you know not be getting places. So I just prepared. That's what I'm trying to say. But people go, "Oh my God, I'm not going to travel during those times. But you know what? You might have a business meeting. You have to travel. You just look at your own birth chart. If your own birth chart has no danger in it, you'll be fine. So I'm not saying everyone quits travelling. No, during these times, but just know it will be more hectic,
Jannecke Øinæs 23:43
and you or we talked a bit before we started recording, and you mentioned that 2020 27 is really going to be different and in a positive way. Also, especially in the summer, there might be some energy of peace coming in, and I'd love for you to speak a bit about that because I think so many of us are yearning for more peace in the world, especially with the huge wars going on and the conflict.
Joni Patry 24:08
Me too. Yes. So, so I feel like everything that's happening now and has been happening was important. It needed to happen. I always call it a birthing, and to birth something new, it's always painful. So we're in that process of clearing, cleansing, and birthing. And by the way, I often, you know, look at charts of leaders and and countries charts to see what's going on. So I I was looking at the United States chart, and you know where all this energy is. Mars in k2 in in March and April, and actually right now too. It's going to be happening in the eighth house of the United States chart. The. Eighth house is the house of scandals, corruption, big money, and so much is going to be exposed, and it needs to be exposed because in order to heal anything, we have to know what we're dealing with. We have to know what the problem is, and that's all being exposed. That's what's all coming out this year. So I think it's a birthing of something new. Now I did a video. This is funny. Back in 2015, you can actually still find it. It's pretty funny. I'm in this pink chair and I'm all propped up, like like like like royalty or something. It's kind of funny because I did this video. A king will be born, and and what it was about. What I happened to notice at that time in 2015 was that there was an alignment of Jupiter with Venus, and they would align together on the fixed star Regulus in Leo. Regulus is the heart of the lion, and so with that lineup together, I kind of was thinking, and and I talked about this that it was way back in you know ancient days. Well, during the turn of this turn of you know this processional cycle 2000 years ago, and of course I kind of went back and I found there were some alignments around that time. We can't be exact with this, of course, but but 2000 years ago was when Christ came into the world, and there were the three wise men. You know, that's always what I tell people that are very religious and they're concerned that I'm doing astrology. I always say, "Who do you think the three wise men were? And they were following a star, and usually they get some thinking. They're usually like, "Oh, okay. So during that time, this time, I was thinking, what would they be following in the sky? Jupiter and Venus are the brightest planets. They look like the brightest stars, especially when they go retrograde. They're closer to the Earth, and they're so bright. If they aligned, wouldn't that be something really bright? And that was when a king was born. So I'm looking in 2015. I'm looking at this alignment, wondering if it could be similar in some way. And so I put that out there. And I'll be darned if it was right around that time. I think a month or two, a month around that time, that Donald Trump announced that he was running for president. I had no idea who he was, to be honest with you. I'm thinking, I I think he was on some television shows. I'm thinking, is this a joke? Right. We all did. We thought that's a joke. Never did we think he'd be president. And but that was the time that those planets aligned. And you know, he has been such a divisive, polarising force in the world, as we all know. And he was a huge catalyst to create radical changes, and I think that was kind of necessary to bring out what was what's really been happening in the world, you know, behind the scenes. So it made everyone start looking, cleansing, seeing what's wrong with the world, I you know I think this was an important factor in what needed to happen. So here is what I happened to notice: the cycle of Jupiter takes 12 years to go through all 12 signs, and I noticed in 2027 in August, Jupiter aligns with Venus again on the fixed star Regulus, and so what could what could be happening? The last time it did this was 2015. I think a similar event. Someone's going to come out of nowhere to run for president.
Think it's somebody we don't know about, and my prayers are that this person can bring unity instead of division. That is my prayer for this. But I think it will be good. I think whatever the stars are always aligning for a divine reason to make certain things happen that we need to go through in order to change and evolve our evolutionary consciousness to be more aware and more conscious in this world to find peace to find love to connect to. Others the way we should not in this violence and crazy world that has been coming up but you see it's always kind of like the duality here on Earth the positive the negative the dark the light the male the female the night the night the day it's always a duality here mother father kind of represented by the sun and the moon, and that's our duality here on Earth. And this is what we've all come here to learn. This is not about politics. This is about human evolution, and what we have come here to do is to grow spiritually, and whatever politically is going on, it's here really to polarise us and divide us. That is what the negative forces want with all of this, and we need to come from a place of love, not fear. Here's the thing, you know, the media and all that's been going on for a while-they want to divide us with a sense of fear. They're even telling us now that AI is going to kill us in 10 years. Kind of like think about COVID-they controlled us all through fear. We can't let this happen again. We have to come from a place of love, and this is what the astrology is teaching me, telling me that things in 2027 are going to shift because of this alignment. And here's another thing I want to say really briefly: the reason why I shifted to Vedic astrology from Western astrology. I used to be a Western astrologer for 20 years, and the reason why is because Vedic astrology is true to the stars. What does that actually mean? That the stars they they are what constitute the signs, such as the fixed star Regulus is in Leo, and everything that defines Regulus, that star, is the same description of Leo. It is kingship, rulers, leaders, loyal, warmth. It's everything that Leo is. It's the heart of the lion, and so this is the star that depicts Leo and the stars travel together, so Regulus is always only in the sign of Leo. But in Western astrology, they're trying to tell me that it shifted into Virgo. That has nothing to do with Virgo, the energy of Regulus and all the stars per se, such as Aldebaran, is the red eye of the bull in Vedic astrology. It's actually in the nakshatra called Rohini, which is the red one, and it represents the red eye of the bull Aldebaran. They're trying to Western astrologers are trying to say it's now in Gemini. No, Vedic astrology stays true to the stars, just like Antares. Antares is the heart of the Scorpion. It can't be in Sag, so therefore Vedic astrology stays true to the stars. As the stars move, so does our zodiac. That's what I wanted to explain about what really drew me into Vedic, and then I find that the predictive value is so much more specific and accurate because of these 27 nakshatras that we use, and the nakshatras are portions of the zodiac that have deep meaning relative to the stars that are there. So sidereal astrology is Vedic astrology. Sidereal means star. Tropical is the seasons, and that's Western astrology. I thought I might explain a little bit about what the real difference is with Vedic and Vedic sidereal astrology and Western tropical astrology.
Jannecke Øinæs 34:01
Yeah, that's great. I don't think everyone knows the difference, and it's great to hear your passion for Velic astrology. And I understand that it has helped you be more self confident in your predictions, also. And I'm curious about when we spoke about 2026 the last time. Now we are at the end of 2026, did what you predicted plan out? And if you can share some of those, and what would be the main like difference between 2026 and 2027?
Joni Patry 34:32
Yes. So the main thing is I'm always looking at where the eclipses are, and one of the main things, and it's and all of this is documented in my book, which is World Predictions 2024 to 2042, and so I went through each year. I wanted to make sure some of my predictions, by the way, were in print before they happened, and most of all. In case I'm not here, especially I have another big prediction for 2030, and especially 2038. That was the one I wanted to put out in the book writing. So I wrote this book in 2024, and I predicted that we would go to war in the United States, and most of all, I predicted that there was going to be revolutionary changes in technology, which is happening with AI. But another thing I predicted, and it is in writing, I you know I show people all the time that oil prices would go out the roof starting in February of 2026, the reason why I I made that prediction is that that was when Saturn and Neptune are exactly conjunct. Saturn indicates crude oil, and Neptune represents oil and gas. So when they come together, which isn't very often, fuel prices go way up. And then another triggering device is when Mars aspects it, and Mars did aspect it. And look where the price of oil is. And yes, it did really start escalating because of the war that I predicted in Iran with the United States, and this is what's causing, I believe, the economy to be so extreme. The prices of things have gotten way out of hand, and it's because of fuel prices. One of the reasons, because you know, shipping, airlines, everything involves getting things from one place to another, and that involves fuel, and the prices are astronomical right now. So those are just a few of them.
Jannecke Øinæs 36:51
Yes, and I asked about the wars. Yes, there will be more energies of peace in 2027, but does that mean concretely that that war will actually end between Iran and the U.S.
Joni Patry 37:04
Yes, looking at Iran's chart, I notice that they will have great difficulty in December. By December, so I don't think they're going to have a leg to stand on by December. I see the leaders going down. I see the country going down, but I think there's always, always going to be a few individuals that will never give up. Now I think you know technically the the war is over, but it's not going to be completely ever over because you know when you go in, we all know this. You go in and you kill people. Their children, their great grandchildren, will say that country killed my father. You know, you can't feel good about it. So they're going to hold that grudge for years to come. So here is the thing that we can go to now, but I'm not going to go into great depth because this deserves an entire video about what happens in 2030. This is a lineup that I have never seen. I know, you know, and really, there's never going to be an exact lineup because even though you'll get some planets in the same positions, doing the same aspects. The other planets are in different places. So it's like really the astronaut, the astrological patterns in the sky are kind of like a you know a thumbprint, a fingerprint. It's never the same, but there are similarities, but looking at where the planets go and the eclipses, most of all in the year of 2030, it's similar to World War Three's World War II. I guess that's kind of a a slip, a Freudian slip that I said three there, but it's similar because Saturn will be with k2, and Saturn Saturn was with k2 back when World War Two started. They were in Aries this time. They're going to be in Taurus, and in the Vedic ancient texts, they say that when Saturn is in Taurus in the Nakshatra Rohini, that this is really bad, very serious time for attacks or war, and Saturn takes 30 years to go through the whole zodiac, and if you go back this back to 2001, Saturn was in Taurus. So going forward from 2001 to 2030, Saturn will be back in the same position it was in 2000 and. One, so we've got that Saturn there. We got Saturn with k2. k2 is the indicator of great loss, and then we also have Uranus there, and Uranus being right there with Saturn k2. Remember when the outer planets come together with the nodal axes. It's always a big change for humanity because the outer planets really do depict the collective unconsciousness of the world. So you get Uranus there, and Uranus is the planet of sudden, unexpected changes. So things with Saturn, Saturn in this difficult position with the indicator of loss, and Mars comes together with it, the big triggering point. But here is one more thing I'm going to note during that time, and I can go into great detail. Detail, but I'm going to go just this far. Uranus will be at the degree in I think June of 2030 with the solar eclipse. It will be at 23 degrees of Taurus. The last time Uranus was 23 degrees of Taurus was the bombing of Hiroshima. Okay, and Uranus takes 84 years to go through the entire zodiac. So this was 1945, and by this time, it will be back in that position. So you see, we really do, as astrologers, go back historically and say what happened before, what caused this event, in order to make better predictions for the future to understand what these planets could mean as they come together again. I know that these are very difficult energies aligning. Mars is violence and it's a trigger. Uranus is unexpected sudden events. Saturn is heavy, difficult karma in k2 is losses. So you can kind of get. Here's the thing: I see 2027. There will be hope. We've all got to lock into this and be the light that we are, so that knowing that this is about to happen, we can definitely work hard to make it better and not let the the worst case scenario unfold as it could. But this is what astrology should be used for.
Jannecke Øinæs 42:36
Wow, interesting because I've heard so many astrologers speak about these years as very significant up to 2030 2032, and especially opening up of well, definitely a larger discussion about spirituality, much more open contact that we realise that we're part of a bigger picture here. Learn more about nature of reality and more peace on Earth coming, Golden Age and stuff like that. But from what I understand, you we are facing some turmoil before the new Earth or that 50 consciousness or the Age of Aquarius or Golden Age, or Golden Era, or whatever we want to call it, is coming. Is that what you're saying?
Joni Patry 43:27
Yes, I am, because you know there's still going to be some cleansing. I don't think what, and and I think you'll totally agree with me with the way things are right now, that we have a higher consciousness yet. But here's what's happening right now: a lot of people are starting to wake up because of the events that we have going on. We can see that things are starting to change. People are changing their consciousness. They're starting to see and know things that they didn't know before, and this is what's going to make the the power of the light, the good, stronger. But do you know what happens when that gets stronger? The dark digs their heels in because they don't want to lose control, and so there is this fight of good and and evil always. You know that's what every probably hero movie's about. But that's what's actually coming in a nutshell. This is where we're going, where we're starting to grow in awareness and light, and we have to fight against the the darkness that wants to hold on to this, but the light will prevail. It always does, and these are just times when we have to be more aware, to be brighter, to be not consumed with the fear. And it's not easy to not be consumed with fear when you see all these planetary arrangements, but. This is where we know we have to get stronger to help everyone else through these periods, so that they don't become consumed with fear. Because the minute we become consumed with fear, the dark can take over.
Jannecke Øinæs 45:14
Yeah, and that we're more controllable.
Joni Patry 45:17
Exactly.
Jannecke Øinæs 45:18
I've heard you speak about the age of Aquarius, but now it seems very far ahead. But is it, or do you see it in our lifetime, or are we talking about hundreds of years or 1000s of years?
Joni Patry 45:30
We're talking hundreds of years, and you know that's actually in the big scheme of things not so far off compared to before, because the here's the thing: in precession of the equinoxes, this is what we're talking about when we talk about we're going into the age of Aquarius. That is the precessional cycle when the beginning starting point of the zodiac will be in Aquarius. Right now, it's in Pisces, and this started 2000 years ago, so in Vedic astrology, the beginning starting point of the zodiac is in Pisces. In Western astrology, they always use zero Aries; they don't ever change it. But because the stars are moving backwards, it's moved backwards into Pisces, where it is now, and by the time of going into the age of Aquarius, remember that the stars and the processional cycle travels backwards, so it's going to go from Pisces back into Aquarius, and the starting of the age of Pisces was 2000 years ago, and that's what started the whole trend towards Christianity, the birth of Christ. What is the symbol for Pisces? It is the fish, and what is the symbol for Christianity? The fish. So that was what what happened then. Now everything is here. Is the calculation for those of you that are interested, that the processional cycle moves backwards one degree in the zodiac every 72 years. So at this point, we're about six degrees of Pisces, and as it moves backwards, we've got six degrees. What is that? Six times 72 is going to be approximately what about 400, 300 years from now, and so we got a ways to go. But here's another thing. So with the Vedic astrology, we are looking at the age of Aquarius, and it will begin when this starting reference point enters into Aquarius, and because it travels backwards, it will start at 29 degrees onward through each sign. Now, this whole cycle of precession, it takes about 26,000 years to go through all 12 signs of the zodiac, and each sign is approximately 2400 years, so everything is kind of relative to what cycle we're in. And I love just the sayings of the signs because Pisces is, I believe, and what does that mean? That actually means that it's in the time of belief, and there's so much around religion and belief systems during this time. But in Aquarius, that is the saying for Aquarius: is I know, and therefore there will not be any more questions. We will know. We will have the technology. We'll have the knowledge, the higher consciousness of the knowingness and no more doubt in the belief systems, so that's where we're headed. But another thing is, we have just kind of we're at the cusp where we've left, according to Vedic astrology, the Kali Yuga. The Kali Yuga is said to be the darkest time in humanity, so we're on the cusp of leaving that, so you can understand better why the world has been kind of in a dark place, and consciousness is so low. But these outer planets that really do rule the collective, because you know everyone that has an outer planet in a particular sign in certain generations make up those generations, such as Pluto being in Leo. It will be there for 20 years or so, and then Neptune will be in a sign for 14 years. Uranus is in a sign for seven years, and this really does depict certain generations of people, how they are the new generations. It's based on where their outer planets are, and they're all connected in that way. And when the outer planets aspect one another, they create revolutionary changes, such as in the 1960s when we had Uranus conjunct. Pluto, Pluto's major transformations, while Uranus deals with major change, and so change and transformation. The 1960s were all about a revolutionary change, rebellion, and change of of governments. Everything it all shifted, and then we had the Neptune Uranus conjunction in the mid '90s, and Uranus can deal with technology, and Neptune is what's beyond this world. That's really when the iPhone became so such a solid part of our world and technology, and the kids born during that time. They all get it when it comes to technology. We have to learn from them. So you see, there's generations that come out of these outer planets.
So my point is, when all three planets aligned in this sextile, sextiles are an aspect of opportunity, and they all aligned, and it was july 22 that Jupiter came and kind of kicked it all together. This was like a wake up, and maybe you don't see it at the time because I always say it's like we're in the eye of a hurricane. You can't see it when you're in the middle of it, but years later, hindsight is always 2020, and you look back and you go, "Oh my God, that was the time that everything shifted and changed, and that's true because AI is going to change our world. But I feel pretty optimistic about it,
Jannecke Øinæs 51:36
and I really want to address that now at the end before we go into the galactic planner that can really help people and what we actually can do. Some helpful tips since we are in a time of turmoil. Okay, so right now we just heard on the news that there many are saying that AI might might be a threat because it's starting to hack itself into things. It's behaving in a way that it's not following the instructions of the person. And some are saying, and even in Norway, experts are saying that you know, in three and two five years, AI could wipe out humanity. That like there's a chance for that. And you're saying that you're optimistic. So what do you see, maybe through astrology, that is making you very optimistic, or what do you base that optimism on?
Joni Patry 52:33
Yes. So, these outer planets, if our consciousness is to be elevated, AI is helping that this is part of it, and so higher consciousness is where you're more aware. You make better choices because you're at a different level of awareness. Now, a lot of people are afraid of it; they will not be elevated. But the people that are elevated, this is going to change the way they look at the world and what they know. Knowledge is going to progress quickly. Yes, there'll be dark sides of this where they can probably hack into bank accounts, steal things, or or use it for biological warfare. All of these bad things, but there's always the yin and the yang. the The positive side of it, we will have cures for diseases from this. What could be better than to get these cures out there and going? And here's another thing: not not to get too far. I did see that in 2028, there is another time of a. There's the likelihood there could be another pandemic based on where the planets are, because they're going to go into the flip flop of where they were in 2020, where Rahu, Rahu and Ketu. I've I've told you this in many of our shows before. I noticed that when they went into particular signs, that every 18 and a half years there were catastrophic events, and it was when Rahu went into Gemini and Ketu in Sagittarius. I traced it back every 18 and a half years, just to quickly. If people haven't seen those videos, I predicted the COVID would happen in 2020. It was 2017. I wrote it in my book because I went back, and when Rahu and Ketu were in those signs, going back it was 2001. We know what happened then. Then going back again, it was 1982. That was AIDS virus. Going back again, 18 and a half years. 1963, Kennedy's assassination. One more time, 18 and a half was 1945 bombing of Hiroshima. So it was 2017, and I saw what was going to happen in 2020. I said something's going to happen to change our world catastrophically forever, and we had COVID. Now, so so what I'm talking about is. That coming up in 2028, it will be the flip flop of this. So that portion of the zodiac, instead of Rahu, will have k2 there, and we'll have k2 will be in Gemini, and Rahu will be in Sag. And I went back to other times that this happened, and it was the pandemic of 1918, 1918. There was a horrendous pandemic. I killed 50 million people, and then I even went back way back historically. There was another one historically way earlier, another pandemic. So there's the possibility of this. So my whole point with bringing this up is, with AI, we can come up with a cure right away for something like this. It won't annihilate us. We will be able to come up with a cure with this knowledge. And here's another thing: I believe because with AI we will know the truth of many things that we can't decipher now. Therefore, we're going to be able to uncover all the corruption that's been going on. We'll be able to trace bank accounts and things people say. We will get to the bottom of all the corruption that's been going on worldwide. Do you think the world leaders really want this to happen? No, they're going to tell us it's dangerous, so they can put a stop to it, so we can't get the answers that they don't want us to have, and even the cures for diseases and things of that nature. They want to control us. AI will, if we use it properly, can help us regain our own control, and another thing that I think is tied into this during this time, I'm not sure how, but the this year it's become more prevalent of alien life. Everyone's talking about it. Age of disclosure. This is coming out of this time too. A recognition of what's really going on with other beings inhabiting our planet and what's going on with that. With AI, this will connect and give us more knowledge about that. And who knows that they're not even involved in this AI in some capacity?
Jannecke Øinæs 57:19
All right. Well, let's jump over to what we can do in these times. I know you have a Galactic Planner, an app that has helped a lot of people, and full transparency. It's something you can test out. I'll leave a link below. You can test it out for free for seven days, and if you guys want to continue, you also support Wisdom from North this show without any extra cost, and you're really passionate about this app because it has helped a lot of people. Can you tell us about it?
Joni Patry 57:48
Well, I have worked with for a very long time to develop this app because I really believe in no astrology is a tool for self-development, for awareness, and to give us guidance as to know when are the good days or the bad days to do things, this app does exactly that. And the new feature that we have, you can get it on the app store, but the new feature is called Ask Joni, and this feature is where you can verbally ask it, and it will give you an answer. Of course, it's based on your individual birth chart, but it will give you explicit, exact answers such as when is the best day for me to travel in November. It will give you that date, and it will, and it even uses my voice to talk to you out loud on the app to give you the answers from your chart. And my son and I decided to really make this app because when he was a kid, I always gave him predictions. He's so cute; he'd type them all in his phone on his calendar. And one day, this really happened. I know y'all won't believe me, but it's true. I predicted the day he would meet the girl he was going to marry, and he typed that into his phone. He said, "I'm not interested, but I'll do. I'll put in my phone anyway. It happened. He even showed the girl on his phone. My mom said, "said My mom's an astrologer. She said I'd meet you today. I'm surprised she didn't run away, but they ended up getting married. So we collaborated together, going somehow, some way, we need to create a device where everyone can use this information on their phone, and that's what the Galactic Planner is.
Jannecke Øinæs 59:30
Beautiful, wonderful. Well, Joni, it's always a blast to have you on the show, and just a few more tips about what we can do. I mean, you're seeing potentials of what's coming? It might be challenging. How can we stay in our hearts? What What are your practices not moving into fear? How do you stay so calm and centred?
Joni Patry 59:54
Well, one of the one of the major things that we all have to do is find our tribe, like-minded people, people that we can share thoughts with to get when we get hyped up or scared to share our thoughts with. Find your community and get together, and with that, the light grows. And always remember when you get into fear, and we all do. We're we're human to connect to that inner guidance and just do an affirmation, a prayer, mantra, just like help me overcome this fear, take me to to a place of light. And when you ask from the highest source, it happens. It absolutely happens. We're all connected to that divinity. I always do my prayer to Divine Mother. I think I told you that because that's a sense of nurturing from the divine that gives unconditional love, which we all desperately need, and we have to remember to give that. I even organised a group, my Patreon group, which which you can find my Patreon group. It's my name. We come together every week. We talk about all this stuff candidly with no judgement. To be able to come together with people that can freely, without fear of being judged. Share your thoughts and your ideas, and maybe work things out with each other. Well, I'm concerned about this, and someone else will say, "Oh, well, this is the remedy for that. We share healing modalities all the time in this group, and you know that's another thing to keep your body pure, to heal, to not be consumed with all sorts of toxic poisons in our environment by what we eat and how we breathe and how we take care of ourselves. So important that we exercise and eat well, and share with people that we love more than anything. Here's what I'm going to say: It's so important to have community and family. You know, in these times with cell phones and computers, we don't come together enough to share and be connected with those that we love. And family is so important. I think family is, and if you have issues with your family, it is a time to heal that, and Mars being sidereally in the sign of Cancer tends to rip families apart. But realise that you are incarnated here with the people you're with to heal issues, and and this is what always in a reading that that gets people to to kick into action. I always say, if you don't clear it up in this lifetime, you're going to have to come back and do it again. And they go, "Oh my God, I better do that then. I don't ever want to go through this again. So, but it's true. We're all here learning. We're learning from one another. And I say, don't stay isolated. Don't be in fear. If you are, reach out to like-minded people. Connect, pray more, meditate more, go within, connect to that divinity that you are. AI doesn't have that; you have that. Don't be full of fear. And remember this. I mean, we all know this, but it's good to be reminded. What you put out, you get back. If you're going to put out hate and anger, guess what? You're going to attract a bunch of angry, hateful people. But if you put out love, compassion, and healing, and the intent to help others, guess guess what kind of people come into your life? It is a fact. It's the law of karma. It's the law of vibration and frequency. Whatever your frequency is at, that's what will be met. You will attract people with the same vibration and frequency. So work on yourself. And you know what else I do is I kind of listen to myself. Be a fly on the wall. Sometimes you know we all say things and we think, "Oh my God, I can't believe I said that. We got to change that stuff. We can't allow ourselves to be in these in these gross thoughts and fears and say negative things. We can change and work on ourselves, and as we do, that vibrates across to humanity. We can make the difference by making a difference within ourselves. This is a law of karma and truth, and that's why we're all here to do this.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:30
Thank you so much. That's very helpful, and I I so agree. It's so important to find your tribe, whether that is your tribe, another teacher's tribe, or just your friends, or someone who is like-minded, or my membership, or just find something, because I think it's sometimes easy for us to say, "Don't be afraid, and just let go of that, and just do this, and you gotta love yourself. Yeah, but how? Like I, I have trouble letting go. I have trouble loving myself, and I am. In fear, and then you feel bad about that. You are in fear, so having those who can just meet you where you are, where you can come out with it, and be present with what's going on, and then do the inner work with like-minded people.
Joni Patry 1:05:14
Absolutely,
Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:16
Joni. A few questions before we wrap up here that I ask everyone: What is self-love to you?
Joni Patry 1:05:23
Self-love is where you feel at home with yourself, where you feel comfortable with who you are. And another thing is, is when you're doing what you love. When people do what they love, their life is joyful. So if you're in a job, if you're in a career that you are so unhappy with, it's killing you. You gotta, you gotta come from a place of finding what is your purpose, what gives your life meaning, and that will be where you love yourself and you are divinely connected with everything, and you're happy. You can't wait to get out of bed every day to do what you love, and that's the kind of life that all of us should be living. We shouldn't ever be confined to doing jobs or relationships that don't bring us joy and happiness. So, if you love yourself, which we all do deep down, we will find ways to make our life work, and that is to find what gives our life meaning, happiness, purpose, and most of all, to always remember what you put out, you get back. So if you you're coming from a place of self-love, you're going to attract loving people. Because how can you expect people to love you if you don't love yourself? You know, so that's what's so important. And I think the more people feel at home with themselves, love themselves, the happier they are, and the better their life gets. And they attract situations and careers and situations that really resonate with them. When happiness, you put that out, you're met with happiness, and it starts from within self love.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:13
And speaking of meaning that you mentioned, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?
Joni Patry 1:07:20
I think we're all here to grow in consciousness, and that's why I'm so excited about these times. And as we evolve, we evolve eventually to higher dimensions, higher levels, where we are always teaching other people. So I believe if you go to a higher dimension. You're you're teaching others from the lower dimensions. We're always healing and growing. That is the purpose of why we're here. And there's nothing nothing more powerful, in my opinion, than teaching. I love to teach. By the way, I didn't mention I have a school, the university.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:00
I wanted to ask you.
Joni Patry 1:08:01
Yeah,
Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:03
where can people connect?
Joni Patry 1:08:03
avedicastrology.com. if you were interested. But I love to teach to see people as they develop and grow. Just really to see that light bulb in their eyes as they start to get it and their consciousness starts to change, and they start to see the purpose of their life, the purpose of why we're all here. That I love to teach, and I think eventually all of us are teachers. We're all returning what we've grown to understand and know and love. That is one of the most important purposes for all of us to teach and give back to connect. There's always a give and take, and part of that is in teaching. So I think that's part of our purpose in teaching one another. And don't we teach one another in relationships just through the power of love of give and take, we want to do for our partners because it makes them happy, and when we make other people happy, it makes us happy. So there's the give and take, and that's what life is supposed to be about-not the resentments or fears or any of those negative. And really, I know you've heard this before, but all negative emotion comes from fear. So when we eliminate the fear, we eliminate the negative emotion. Come from a place of love and compassion, and this will give your life meaning, purpose, and joy and happiness. I believe we're all here to be happy, not to you know go through these difficult times where things are really rough. We're here; it's challenging during these times. That's because we've got to be stronger during these times to uplift and to teach others what is. The light. What is the meaning of life? What is our purpose through these challenging times? Because you know what, people need it more than ever now. That's what I'll say.
Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:11
Beautiful, Joni. Thank you so much. And if people want to dive deeper, you have your school, you have your YouTube channel, your Instagram, and the Galactic Planner that I'll put a link below. Thank you so much for coming back, sharing your wisdom.
Joni Patry 1:10:26
Thank you so much, Jannecke. It's always a pleasure.
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