Your Entire Life Has Already Happened! With Sir Robert Edward Grant

Sir Robert Edward Grant 0:00

Well, that might be the reason why I've always been able to see the future. What if the entire life has already been written? It's not that you are experiencing time, time is experiencing you. Consciousness also cannot experience itself without dividing itself into mirrors, and we are those mirrors. And as a higher self, what's the one thing that you cannot experience? You can experience limitation. So you divide yourself across time, you create a time construct, and you create an avatar, this flesh suit that you have, this body to experience limitation. Look, I don't believe the world's a difficult place because people hate each other. I believe the world can be a difficult place, because people hate themselves. The way that you evolve is by changing yourself within and realizing that you are the master of your fate, you're the captain of your soul, nobody else. And the common denominator is this: if you're surrounded by assholes, then you're the asshole, because if you're judging everybody as assholes around you, you're resonating at the frequency of asshole. The big difference between going into one earth versus going into the other is the level of your judgment. The more you judge the outer world, the more it will judge you back. You attract everything you judge until you no longer judge what you attracted. Period.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:25

Do you want to cultivate a deeper sense of self love? Then I have a self love toolkit for you, where I help you boost your self love. Head over to Wisdomfromnorth.com/selflovetips. Robert Edward Grant, welcome to the Wisdom From North show. How are you doing?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:44

Great, great to be here with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:47

It's wonderful having you here. You know, so many people have been writing me asking to have you on the show, and it's your first time you're finally here, and I can't wait to learn from you, because you have been called the real life Indiana Jones, and some have compared you with Marvel's Doctor Strange, and you are a beautiful ambassador between bridging science and spirituality, ancient wisdom, and modern science. And brace yourself, everybody, because you are a mathematician, a musician, an inventor, a sculptor, an author, a philosopher, a psychic, and I might have missed some. So, it's truly an honor to have you here.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 2:27

Great to be here. I've never had psychic added to the list before, so I'm happy to hear that. Actually, I don't disagree with it. I think all of us have psychic abilities, and I've always been able to see the future, I've always been able to see the future, and since I was a little kid, and so people often termed it as psychic phenomenon, but I never thought of myself as a psychic per se. So, to hear it from you was, was, was different.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:55

And, of course, I'm very curious about what you see, but there's so much I want to ask you about, and I, after watching many videos with you, I'm so inspired by the way you see the world, and I've been searching for the big questions all my life, and when I listen to you, I get excited, and something ignites inside of me, and that's what I want to start addressing, because you're speaking about that we might be in a movie that that has ended and that's going backwards, maybe we could start there, because that intrigued me.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 3:32

Well, that might be the reason why I've always been able to see the future. I don't know, you know. Yes, I do believe that it's as if we think we're, you know, watching a film of our life playing forward, because we've learned that that's forward, but what if the entire life has already been written, and the entire, you know, the sum total of all of our experiences has already been happened, has already happened, and we're just watching it play backwards, and we think that playing backwards is playing forwards. It's kind of like an opposite way of thinking, but it's kind of what I fundamentally believe, because I believe that ultimately we choose every experience that we have here, and we've already chosen it. So I always get the feeling, and this is true with synchronicities, it's true with virtually everything. You know, it's like if I hadn't met this person and hadn't done this thing, would my life been the same as what it turned out to be? And yet it turned out to be exactly what it was supposed to be every time. Well, how does that happen unless the past is entangled with the future as much as the future is entangled with the past, which means that you know you could think of it as we understand that the past and the present determine the future, but can we also understand that the future determines the past and the present, and that must be so in physics. It's absolutely the case. Nice, so then you start wondering, does time actually loop on itself? I was watching a television show, my brother asked me to watch, called Battlestar Galactica, and in this show they talk about something being so far in the future that it's in their distant past, because time loops on itself, and this is possibly why we experience the same things over and over and over again throughout our lives. So, that's what I'm thinking. I'm starting to really feel, from a physics standpoint, that time must actually loop back on itself, and so what we think of as forward time is actually also just backward time, you know. One way to think about this is as follows. You're familiar with astrology, I'm sure, right? So, in astrology, you have procession of equinox, right? So, you've got the equinoctial procession, and then you have the precession. Are you aware of the difference? Do you know the difference?

Jannecke Øinæs 6:04

Not so, yeah, a little bit, but I don't. I'm not any expert on astrology.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 6:10

So, in astrology, we know that, okay? We start off with, in, say, Aries is for the month of, you know, late March and early April, right? You're Aries, okay? So, I'm Taurus now. Have you ever realized that that's actually working like a clock? So a lot of people know that the first zodiac sign is Aries, okay? And that's where the year used to begin. It used to begin with the year starting in April, right? That's how the year started. It started actually in late March with the with the equinox, okay? So it would basically be on the vernal equinox, is when the year starts, okay? So, but think of that as a clock, because we have 12 hours on a clock, but we also have 12 zodiac signs, so that means that zero o'clock, which is also 12 o'clock, or 12am for example, which would be zero on the clock. Then gets the next succession of that would be Taurus, which would be 1o'clock right. And, of course, the word for Taurus is bull. It's a bull. We know the meaning is the bull, and that's the symbol that's in the sky, but also, is that why the word aleph, which means bull in Hebrew, as well as in many of the Semitic languages, right, Arabic especially, as well, Aleph means bull, and Aleph also means the number one, so it's the position of 1o'clock so then what's the next symbol for Gemini, which is the next sign in the zodiac, right? It's the number two in Roman numerals, so we go from zero o'clock, which is Aries, and then 1o'clock around the clock is Taurus, which is Aleph, the number one, or Alpha. The number two in Roman numerals is Gemini. It's two twins, right? The number three, the third position, 3o'clock would be Cancer, and that's why the shape of Cancer is a six and a nine. Nine minus six equals three. It's a clock. Do you see what I'm talking about? And this is why, at the very end of the year, because it starts in April as well, the very end of the year, we have the number 10 for December. Ever wondered why the eighth month, right, is August in our calendar, but actually we call October the number eight, oct November, so September is seven, October is eight, November is nine, and December or December is 10. It's because the whole calendar is shifted, so the zodiac is a clock, but then what people all understand is that yes, we go forward in time, so April is followed by May, is followed by June, is followed by July, is followed by August, and then each of the signs in the zodiac are following like that, but what we don't really realize all the time is that there's a long cycle as well, and the long cycle goes the opposite direction, and that's called precession. So, what I just described to you is procession of the zodiac, but now there's a precession of the zodiac, so that takes a long cycle, and so if you look at the long cycle, it's a 24,000 to 26,000 year cycle, and that long cycle is going backwards. So 2000 years ago we began an era that was referred to, or an Eon. Referred to as Pisces, and then Pisces is followed now by Aquarius, but wait a minute, that's backwards, isn't it? And the one before Pisces was Aries, and the one before Aries was Taurus, so every 2000 or so years we have a different ionic cycle, and that's going exactly backwards, so that means that as we go forward in time with the procession of the equinoctial cycle, we're also going backwards in the larger cycle. It's like one of those things you ever seen, those those geometric shapes that look like DNA, almost, and they go up on you can see the inner lumen going up as it rotates around, but then the outer one is going down, so it's going up and coming down at the same time, going up and coming down at the same time. That's exactly what we're doing. So, as we go forward in time, we're also going equally backward in time, just in a longer cycle, that means that time is going both forward and backwards at the same time.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:11

May I jump in? What does that really mean for you and me?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 11:16

It means that there's no such thing as what we consider linear time. Yes, and it also means that, yes, you've had a lifetime in this lifetime where you've gone forward because you live on average 75 years or something, 80 years, but that's only one degree of the large cycle of time. That's kind of amazing, too, isn't it, that we live exactly one degree, one degree of the large cycle of time is 72 years. So this 26,000 year cycle has one degree of its turn is one lifetime. So we just don't live long enough to see the pattern of the recursion and how everything comes back to the beginning and it cycles over and over again, so that means that you've had many lifetimes, and those many lifetimes are actually connected through time, and they're all happening simultaneous to now. It means that those many lifetimes are all connected to now, and what you're experiencing is a moment in time where it's not that you are experiencing time, time is experiencing you

Jannecke Øinæs 12:32

interesting. Does that mean that I have a clear destiny? Where does destiny come in here? And my free choice,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 12:44

yeah, it means you absolutely, I believe you absolutely have destiny, and what we call destiny is just the free will of you as your higher self. So, imagine that there's someone, it's you still, that is a higher version of you. Call it your oversoul, right? You could call it a god figure. And this higher version of you has decided exactly what you want to experience, and why is it experiencing through you? Why does it do this? Well, because an eye can't see itself without the aid of a mirror, a light cannot illumine itself. A fire can't burn itself. A finger can't touch itself, right at its very tip. And so, as a result, consciousness also cannot experience itself without dividing itself into mirrors, and we are those mirrors. And as a higher self, what's the one thing that you cannot experience, if you're a god, if you're a deity. What's the one thing you can't experience? You can't experience limitation. You cannot experience limitation if you're infinite, you're omniscient, you're omnipotent, you're omnipresent. You don't even know what it's like to ask a question that you don't already know the answer to,

Jannecke Øinæs 14:11

right?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 14:12

You follow my questioning.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 14:14

So, it's like, if you don't know what it's like to ask a question without already knowing the answer, then you're missing out on a big part of life and life experience, you're missing out on curiosity, you don't even get to experience curiosity, and what a beautiful thing curiosity is. So all of these aspects of limitation must also be experienced by one source creator by you and your higher self capacity, so you divide yourself across time, you create a time construct, and you create an avatar, this flesh suit that you have, this body to experience limitation and e. Each time you experience it differently because you have different conditioning biases, it will be a different experience for you in your higher self capacity. So it sends you down here to experience these experiences of limitation, so that it can increase its empathy, and it can continue to learn. It can learn through its limitation, because if you're infinite, you have some limit on what you can learn. It becomes a paradox. As an infinite being, you can't learn what it's like to be limited, so that means you're not really infinite. It's an inverse. So that's what we're here to do. We're here to learn limitation for our higher selves, so our higher selves chooses a path for us and creates us as an avatar, and we experience it through time. And then the game is to learn as the avatar how to come back to yourself, and realize that you've been making it all along, and that you are the higher self. You've just had forgetfulness or amnesia placed upon you. So, as you remember more and more, you can return closer and closer back to your higher self, and also connect to all your other lifetimes that are happening simultaneous to now,

Jannecke Øinæs 16:25

and these other lifetimes, would you say that is different personalities or different Roberts and different Janakas, because what about deja Vea, where I feel I've experienced this before, that would point to my life, not as another incarnation. Right?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 16:47

Yeah, I mean, you can experience deja vu. Absolutely, you can experience feelings that you've been here before, you've done something else before, like this, and these are things that your subconscious mind or your unconscious is trying to talk to you through that's what's happening. It could be that it's for another lifetime or it could be another timeline, but the truth is that in some way, shape or form you have created all of it. It's not so, it's not a different Robert, it's just a different form of your higher self. So let's say your higher self is an entity as a consciousness, and in that context it wants to just, it wants to feel what it's like to be Robert, it wants to feel what it's like to be Leonardo da Vinci, it wants to feel, it wants to feel what it's like to be Nikola Tesla, or what it's like to be you, Janneke, and you could experience all of these different experiences, but you still have the same soul DNA, and I believe all of your lifetimes are embedded within your DNA. They're all part of you, they're just different dimensions of you happening simultaneous to now, so as you go throughout your life, that means you associate less and less with your avatar that you have here right now, and you realize that, yes, I'm Robert, yes, I'm Janneke, but I'm also a higher self that chose a soul's journey, and my soul's journey has certain things to learn, and the way you realize your mission and your path is you start to realize by pattern recognition all the things you keep experiencing over and over and over again, because that's going to tell you what you came here to learn, to experience, to remember, so if you're here experiencing the same things, like for me it was betrayal. I kept experiencing betrayal over and over and over again, and so the way I could learn what it is that I'm here to learn is by understanding that betrayal has its opposite, and the opposite of betrayal is unconditional love, so if I came here to Earth to learn unconditional love, then I'm going to experience its opposite until I've learned how to accept its opposite, and until I've learned how to accept betrayal, I have not yet learned unconditional love.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:27

Yeah, that makes sense. I've heard you talk about the you inverse. Is that what you're referring to now, that everything that happens is a mirror of you, of me?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 19:39

Yes, yes, that's right. It's a you inverse. Everything that happens is a mirror of you. It's you projected to the outer world, and you're experiencing yourself in this recursive pattern, and every polarity that we experience, good and evil, light and dark, these are all. Just varying degrees of recursion. Recursion is like a mirror reflection through time.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:11

So, what about the collective? Then everything we're experiencing collectively, how would I, where would I put that if it's a mirror of me, but still I'm seeing what's happening out there with other people, like what's my responsibility in that, or what is my creation in that.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 20:35

So, first of all, I think this is one of the things that people don't realize is that we don't experience the earth or the world as it is, we experience it as we are. You and I could have the exact same experience on a roller coaster, maybe I love roller coasters, and maybe you don't like roller coasters, and so you could have a horrible time on the royal roller coaster. We have the exact same experience, but we're going to remember it very differently. That's what life is. We don't experience the world as it is, and we tend to believe that there's some objective truth. There really isn't an objective truth, because everyone's seeing the world from their own individualized perspective. It's an angle of perception and perspective, and so we tend to think that, okay, the things that I like that are good for me are the things that are good for everyone, but that's not necessarily the case, right, and this is how we end up in situations where, like, throughout time you have a shepherd on some in the Middle East somewhere who has a flock, and his side of the hill is burned by the sun. It has no shade, whereas his next-door neighbor adds the shade, and so when it's a hot summer, he has more grass that doesn't all just get burned by the sun, and so his flocks of his sheep have somewhere to eat and something to eat. So, the next thing that happens very often is that we find differences in each other to justify things. We say the god he worships is a different god than mine, so last night in my dream, my God came to me and told me to kill him and take his land and consecrate it to my God, and that's the righteous thing to do. You see what I'm saying, we justify any end and any means to get what we want, and we call it ethical choice. It's not actually ethics, it's what we wanted, and this is extended to governments, it's extended to principalities, to monarchies, it's ascended to everything, and we've forgotten this, so the outer world around us is literally a projection. It's not exactly what it is objectively. There is no objectivity from that perspective. Even if we saw somebody get murdered on the street, and there were 30 eyewitnesses to the murder, you take 30 eyewitnesses to the courtroom, you're going to have 30 different accounts on what happened, and some of them will be radically different, and in some of those accounts it will be the victim's fault that he was murdered, because there's always some other circumstance that someone didn't see. I'm just trying to point out that what you experience in the world around you is already your you inverse, it's no one else's, because no one else sees it just like you.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:52

Interesting. And when we want to then come home to ourselves, you mentioned that. How do we do that? Where do we start? Is it about the realization? Is it about that aha? Or now I get it, but where does that come from? Does that come from practice, practice, or does it come from bliss? It just happens to some people, and how have you, if you have come to that realization, or that knowing you know, because intellectual knowing takes you only that far.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 24:28

Yeah, in fact, it's not about the intellect at all. At a certain level, I think the intellect has has a purpose. It has a very important purpose, and we have like four pillars inside our brain, you could think of the zodiac as being a reflection, the U inverse is also a reflection of what's inside of us, so if you took like an oval shape and put it on top of your brain, you would realize that the different parts of the brain. Where you have your seats of learning, how we learn and what we learn are actually directly associated with our, with our anatomy, and also the astrology is matching it. So we have something right. So we have something called the cerebram, right? The cerebrum, the cerebrum is the ram. it's the Aries. The Sarah Bullum is the bull, right? You can keep going through the brain. The amygdala, right, is related to the scorpion. The medulla oblongata, the shape that comes off of, like off of the third eye, this little squiggly shape, that's the medulla oblongata, that's the scorpion's tail. Everything that we have in astrology is actually showing up as anatomical inside the brain.

Jannecke Øinæs 25:54

Wow,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 25:55

right. So now, what does that mean? Okay, that's kind of mind blowing, because you're like, whoa. So are we just inside of our brain in a way, kind of, yeah, where it's experiencing it through time. Consciousness has made a dream for us, and we call this dream Maya. And what is Maya? Backwards, how would you pronounce Maya backwards? I am,

Jannecke Øinæs 26:23

yeah,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 26:28

I am Maya. I am right. Is that a coincidence? I don't believe in coincidences anymore.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:38

Me neither anymore. So

Sir Robert Edward Grant 26:40

we're it's like we're in a dream, and we're waking up from the dream, and so just by me telling you this, it's going to start waking you up from this dream even more, right. So, so what happens is that you have these four seats in your brain that would be where the fixed signs of the zodiac are, the fixed signs are the Taurus, the scorpion, it's opposite the lion, which is Leo, and Aquarius, the man. These are the four faces that show up on the Ark of the Covenant: the face of the man, the face of the bull, the face of the ox, and the face of the eagle, which is scorpion, so the ancient symbol for the scorpion, right, and for the tribe that was related to this was the eagle. So the 12 tribes of Israel also follow this 12 zodiac signs, and why scorpion? Scorpion goes from starting off as a scorpion, the medulla oblongata, and then it starts to rise, and it starts to rise, it becomes a snake, the Kundalini rising, and then when it becomes a snake, it then turns into a an eagle, and the snake becomes a bird, that's why it has the eagle as its ancient representation, but the eagle is not the last place it stops, it becomes a phoenix, and then from the phoenix, it turns into the dragon. So, these are the symbols of Scorpio as it goes through its redemption, right? And we think of Satan as sort of Scorpio. Everything evil is like somehow related to the scorpion of the zodiac signs, even though Scorpio people are very nice. I have no issue there, but I'm just saying, symbol, some, you know, symbolically, that's the way it's always been, and so there's the four fixed signs are like locations of the brain that we need to strengthen and be be more robust in, so, but they must be done in balance, and so, what are these things, right? Well, the analytical mind is going to relate to, like, the Taurus, the bull. Then you've got so that's the mathematics, the mathematical aspects you have to build up mathematics, you have to build up through a spiral inside your own brain, so that you have no area of your brain that is hypertrophied or or sort of atrophied that it has no work, so it's not been doing anything, so that means you need to find your inner artist, the inner musician as well, needs to come out, the inner scientist, and then also the, the, you know, the art side is going to be associated more with the feeling aspects, the intuition side, the right brain, so the front part of the right brain is going to be music, its opposite is mathematics on the left brain, the back part of the brain is going to be more related to the visual arts, right next to the occipital lobe, where we see our vision coming in, right, and then the other side of that's going to be the material sciences, so these four aspects of material sciences, the natural sciences, mathematics, then music, its opposite, and then the visual arts, those things all have to be aligned and. Buttress, they have to be strong. So, what we've been doing in school is we've been learning through specialization how to atrophy those other sections. We shouldn't atrophy them, because in order for us to get perfected hemisynchronization of our brain, the brain muscle has to be in balance. That means if you study too much physics and you don't do enough music or art, you're going to be out of balance, and you can't connect to the heart. The whole goal of this is to get the brain as an antenna, so that it can become seated and anchored inside the heart field, because the brain only works properly when it's operating inside of the pathos, the logos can only work properly when it's working inside of the pathos. Logos and pathos, the pathos creates a larger field. The heart field is the largest field we have, and that heart field has to expand to envelop our logos, and that helps.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 30:57

It gives us the right discernment on what things are going to be closest to our highest authenticity, so that's what I would say to you, that you, it's not about just studying in school and to learn these different things to become intellectual, but it's also out of balance if you have no intellect and you're untethered, so someone who is, you know, only connected to their heart field and not at all connected to their brain field at all. The logos, they can't manifest things, they end up not being able to, you know, they're always broke, they're always in a different cycle, and they're always talking about things that never get grounded and brought down to earth. It's always sort of a dream state, and so that's also not balanced, so both must be tethered to each other, and this is, of course, of course, as well, the balance of masculine and feminine energy, because within the logos and pathos archetypes is also the masculine and the feminine archetype, and that's where divine masculine and divine feminine have to come together. The unification is not the unification outside of us that we're focused on. The way we change the world is by changing ourselves within, and then the outer world reflects a new reality. When you change the way you see things, the things you see will change when you've united internally the masculine and feminine, then the masculine and feminine will become united in your external world.

Jannecke Øinæs 32:33

Beautiful Heart Math Institute also talks about this. I think that is sort of the same, that you need this heart brain coherence that they're working together, and many speak about we need wisdom, and we need love. We cannot just have love, we also need wisdom, and it's so fascinating to me how there are so many patterns in the universe, and I know you're a mathematician, and I've just been stunned by all the sort of coincidences in numbers, for instance, and I know you know tons about this, for instance, in the fairy tales we see the number seven all the time, and then I notice that, oh, seven colors, seven days, seven scales in notes on the scale, why does that, that seven come back again and again, and then you have eight, that's the octave, like you start all over again, and then I heard in law one material that they also talk about an octave, that's where you're sort of finished the evolution of the soul, and but it's so many layers above that, so it's just so vast, so to have a specific question here, what do you know about the number seven? Is that like some mystical, magical number in the universe?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 33:50

The number seven, you know, this number seven is very, very much a special number. We have it referenced in the Bible, right in Genesis, in the very beginning, it's like the seven days of the week, and on the seventh day was the day of rest after the six days of creation, and I see it as a scale of music, so think of it as the white keys on the piano keyboard, right, so we've got seven white keys and five black keys within an octave, so the 12th note then becomes the 13th, and the 13th is coming back to the same note that it started with, and that's exactly the same as kind of like this one through 12 o'clock, and then 13 just becomes the next cycle of one, you follow what I'm saying.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:48

Yeah, so Shavas intelligence,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 34:51

yeah, it's just like this: seven notes of the piano keyboard is creating the octave, and we're missing the black keys, is all, so that's. Why I directly connect the number 12 and the number 13 by association to the number seven, because it's just looking at it two different ways, right? And maybe that's why we have seven days in a week and 24 hours in the day, because the 12 is just showing up as this recursive cycle again of 12 to create 24 which is the multiple of 12, so to me the number seven is a number that speaks to the divinity, it's the octave of existence, seven is the last note in the octave of the white keys, that's why it's the seventh day of rest,

Jannecke Øinæs 35:42

so for instance, if we see that in our reality, like seven every everywhere, is that the sign? Perhaps

Sir Robert Edward Grant 35:52

I mean, whatever numbers you see over and over and over again, it is telling you a message. This is the way the unconscious mind, or your higher self speaks to you, and that's when it starts to wake up, right? It's like an alarm clock that you set as the higher self. You determine, okay, Janneke is going to wake up at this point in time, and it's not going to be like an abrupt awakening. It's going to be, although maybe for some, it is. It's going to be, you know, they'll have those things now, where you can wake up, and it will open the curtains in your room, so that you have the sunlight, the natural sunlight, to help you wake up in the morning. And that's the best way to feel refreshed, rather than this abrupt, you're in the black darkness, and then all of a sudden it's like the alarm turns on, and you're like, you're totally like your adrenaline shoots up, you don't feel very good. Well, basically, what your higher self did is it gave you a time-released alarm, and your time-released alarm starts by showing you the numbers over and over and over again. It might be license plates that you see, like, how is that possible? And it starts to make you ask questions. How can I keep seeing these same numbers again and again and again? What is going on? I mean, the statistical probability doesn't make sense. I'm not a mathematician, necessarily, speaking from your shoes, but somehow I keep seeing the number seven again and again and again. It's like somehow familiar to me, and familiar like I'm a child, and it makes me feel at home somehow. Sometimes I could have to see the number seven, and I realized that God is with me, and I somehow feel comforted that everything's going to be okay, but I'm sure you've experienced things like this, so yes, that's the point, it's your higher self speaking to you,

Jannecke Øinæs 37:54

so that's a good sign,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 37:57

it's a good sign, yeah, absolutely, it's a good sign, and you have to also take heart in the fact that there's really no mistakes in this lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:08

I was going to ask you about that. Are there any coincidences? Is anything random?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 38:15

I used to believe in coincidence until I finally realized that maybe I was just too close to the tree to see the forest, and I had to zoom out further and further and further, and as I zoom farther and farther out, then I start realizing there was a pattern there all along. I just didn't see the pattern until later in life, and maybe everything we call coincidence is just an encryption left by your higher self, the pattern. pattern's there, but until we raise our consciousness and are intended to wake up and see it, we won't be able to fully see it.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:54

I want to jump to you seeing the future and saying perhaps we all can do that. I don't feel I can sitting here with you now, but I have had moments in dreams. For instance, I was going to a doctor's appointment, and then I dream about how this doctor appointment is being rescheduled, and there's so much fuss about it, and then I wake up in the morning and I see a text message where it says that the doctor is sick and we need to reschedule, so I got that information, but that was in a dream state, and I've experienced that before, but never sort of feeling like I'm sitting here now seeing the future, but I'm curious, when you see the future, do we have good times to look forward to, or perhaps are there different timelines you're seeing that are different potentials. We hear that we're in a big shift of consciousness. Some are saying we say chaos coming because things have to come up from the shadows, so we can see them and release them some cures. What do you see if you want to share?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 40:02

Eh you know what I see coming for the future, is that your question?

Jannecke Øinæs 40:08

Yeah,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 40:08

I mean, look, I think we're going through a massive shift right now. I think everyone's waking up to what I'm talking about, and not everyone. Some people are not waking up because they're not scheduled to wake up, and in a way that's part of the whole exercise, right? That there's there has to be polarity in everything, for every action there must be an equal opposite reaction. And so what's happening now is the world is sort of splitting into two experiences, one experience is one of more and more judgment, more and more pain, more and more suffering, more and more experiencing of that judgment, and believing that you can change it and fix it right. What I'm saying, we can't change people outside of us. It cracks me up when people are in the spiritual world, and they often talk about how they're going to change somebody else, or how can we change the rest of the collective to make everyone else more conscious. Well, the only way to do that is by changing yourself and making yourself more conscious. You can't change people, that's one thing I've learned in life: you can't change people, they can only change themselves, and the more you worry about someone else's level of consciousness, and the more you worry about what someone else is or is not doing, the less evolved you are. The way that you evolve is by changing yourself within and realizing that you are the master of your fate, you're the captain of your soul, nobody else is If you want to see more love in the world, then be the love you want to see in the world. If you want to see more compassion, then be the compassion. If you want to see more kindness, then be the kindness. Don't keep bitching about other people not having it. And the common denominator is this: if you're surrounded by assholes, then you're the asshole, because if you're judging everybody as assholes around you, you're resonating at the frequency of asshole, and the frequency of asshole is attracting assholes, so when people complain about being surrounded by arrogant people or being surrounded by narcissists, or whatever, you know, it's like they have to look within and realize that you don't change the world by changing the world outside of you, and every journey you've been on has been a journey within. You just didn't remember it. You thought that it was an outer world experience, and that they're all separate from you. They're not separate from you, no one's separate from you. You are everything. So, it's easy for us to complain about living in the world, and to say, oh, the world is not kind enough, it's not good enough, it's not this enough, it's not whatever. You place the adjective on it, but very few people would actually say I'm not kind enough, I'm not loving enough. Everyone sees the world as they are, not as they, as the world actually is. And so we then justify all of our actions by saying I'm doing all these things, and and then we take a selfie, and we say, oh, look, I'm going to stop deforestation, and the only thing you do by fighting against all the deforesting corporations is cause more deforestation in your world, because everything you judge you will attract over and over and over again, it will become an endless loop, that's why the big difference between going into one earth versus going into the other is the level of your judgment. If you are outside of judgment, then your world can become loving, accepting, beautiful. The more you judge the outer world, the more it will judge you back, you attract everything you judge until you no longer judge what you attracted. Period. So this is how the world is changing. People that are learning to not judge themselves and not judge the outer world around them, to accept it as it is. The game of this life, the Maya game, is to fall in love with the I am. It's to learn to fall in love with this world just as it is, without condition. It is not to judge it into submission.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 44:35

It is not to try to change it. You will fight an uphill battle, and it will never work. You will only get more and more of the thing you fight against by judging it. That is the separation between worlds. So, people that say that they're spiritual and are still stuck in judgment, then they're only going to experience more and more of that judgment. It'll become more and more like a hellish existence.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:05

Do you feel that you managed that to love the world as it is today?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 45:13

I try my best, I try my best, and, and I know that the best way I have to measure that, and this is going to sound funny, but it's really true. Is by the degree to which I can accept myself. So, you could say that the difficulty of your world around you is directly tied to the level of your own self acceptance, that's deep.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:45

Well, I think you're right. I'm writing a book about self love, so I'm convinced,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 45:52

right? So, think about that. That's the opposite of what many people would say. No, no, that's sub for service to self. No, it's not. When you're willing to love yourself, I look, I don't believe the world's a difficult place because people hate each other. I believe the world can be a difficult place because people hate themselves, and it's that self-loathing that becomes narcissism. Narcissism is not true self-love, it's loving a very narrow band of aspects of yourself that you want to project, and you believe only you know about your negative side, so you hide them all. And in this context, you're always right. I'm not afraid of people that have darkness; everyone's got darkness. I'm only afraid of people that believe they have no darkness. That's the narcissism, because it forms their projection, so then you could look at every career that people choose. These types of comments I make don't make me popular, but I'm going to say them anyway. You could look at anybody's job, whether they're a policeman. Why is a policeman so often depicted in films as being potentially corruptible? Maybe the reason why he chose to be a policeman is because he wanted to fight himself within the inner criminal within him, so then his world, when you become a policeman, the whole outer world becomes full of criminals, so you could say that the careers that we've chosen literally become our seat meant our seed of judgment. How we see the world, think about that. So, when you're a doctor, then everybody's sick. We start becoming the hammer that seeks out the nail of our own confirmation bias, and when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail, so you start to ask yourself the question, well, does that mean all the things that I wanted to do, I wanted to go into certain areas so I could help. Yes, you can help, but don't fight. So, if you want to stop deforestation, then go plant trees. Don't do it with a selfie. We're moving now from an age of human doing into an age of human being. AI is going to force this upon it, whether we like it or not,

Jannecke Øinæs 48:23

and is that a good thing? I

Sir Robert Edward Grant 48:26

think we should be human beings. I think the way we've been living our lives is is the way that it was lived during a Piscean age, during the age of Pisces. Yeah, we toiled, we worked, we worked like crazy the last 6000 years. We've had to work by the sweat of our brow, but that's not what it means to be a human being, that's a human doing. And I believe we're now moving into an age where, yeah, we should be doing less work, and we need to stop associating what we do with who we are. Now that's a big problem, more for the United States and for America than it is for Europe. I think Europeans, I lived in Europe for many years, and you know it's almost insulting to ask someone what they do in certain places, even though they're still sizing you up from a different perspective, right, but in my, in my world, it's not that there's a there at all, or that they, that they doesn't exist, it's just you. So the experiences that you have when you start looking at the world through the lens of wait, my higher self put me in this avatar suit to experience life, and I've got all these conditioning biases, of which biases are showing up in my outer world, and I experience all the things that I want to learn through their opposites, like a mirror, you know, it's kind of hard. I learned this is kind of a funny, weird thing about me, but. When I lived in Tokyo, Japan, I learned how to cut my own hair, and the reason why I did that is because I would learn all the words in the dictionary, Japanese dictionary, for how to cut hair perfectly, but no matter what I did, I'd go to the barbershops, I could go to any different barbershop in Tokyo, and I'd end out, end up coming out with the exact same Japanese bowl cut, because that's just the only hairstyle, so I was like, oh my gosh, so finally I asked my then wife to cut my hair, and she started cutting my hair, and of course it became, it became a problem when we got divorced, because she cut my hair all the time, and, and so we got divorced. I was like, oh, what am I going to do now? I have to start going to a barbershop, and I realized that I saved so much time by not going to barbershops, and it's kind of like, if you ever look, you know, they do the math, or they say, if you don't have to buy car insurance for your car because you just own your car outright and you don't have a loan on it or something like that, you could save millions of dollars over your lifetime, it's like some crazy amount of money, you could retire just on that, right, and not paying car insurance for the special car insurance that you need when someone else owns your car, in truth, right? Because it's on loan, and so I started doing that math on haircuts, and I started realizing, oh my gosh, I could save so much money, and this is me as a tourist, right? I could save so much money if I don't get haircuts at barbershops, and I can do it anytime. If I need a haircut, I don't have to worry about scheduling in advance, I could just cut it the night before at like 2o'clock in the morning, and no one knows, but the problem is my wife, you know, and I split up, and so I had to learn how to cut my own hair. So I started cutting my own hair, which was hard in the beginning. It was hard because everything's backwards in the mirror. Everything was backwards, and so I was using the mirror, and I'm trying to do this now. It's easier with an iPhone. I can at least pick up my iPhone and see the back and kind of see, and I know everything's backwards in the mirror, so I can cut it, you know, and not mess it up really badly. And I had probably trial and error about 10 times where, like, people would say, "Dude, you got a really bad haircut in the back.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 52:17

I'm like, "Yeah, I know, but it was better for me to learn through the pain than to figure out to pay, you know, how much you have to pay to go get. I don't even know how much a haircut cost now. So, ever since I've been cutting my own hair, and the reason I bring up that story is because it's difficult to learn how to do things when it's in the mirror. So, what we've been thinking is that the outer world is not a mirror, but actually we've been living in the outer world, and everything's backwards. So, you have to finally realize that it's backwards. If I want to stop experiencing betrayal, then I need to learn how to accept that betrayal exists, and the moment I accept that betrayal exists, I no longer have to experience betrayal anymore. And in the beginning, in the mirror, I used to think, oh, there's betrayal, I need to fight that betrayal, I need to come down hard on these people, or someone's attacking me, I need to fight back. All that happens when you fight back is you create more of the thing you're fighting. I'll give you an example. What I experienced just this week. Okay, just this week I experienced it from time to time. I have people that you know have been very positive with me before, and then all of a sudden they get triggered by something, and then all of a sudden they decide to do a negative post on me. So I had someone do a negative post on me. It's okay, I mean, I get that. Look, I'm a, I'm an influencer, I have a million and a half followers on social media, so yes, you set yourself up for that, and that's okay. That's okay. And so he did a negative post on me. It wasn't terribly rude, and it wasn't terribly mean, but it was still something that in my younger years I would have been bothered by, because I had considered this person to be a friend. I even did things to help them, right? So, instead of me looking at it from the standpoint of gosh, why did this guy just do this kind of semi mean? He could have at least called me just to tell me, you know, if he had the courage to do that, or I could look at it and say, why am I sending this to myself, not why did something happen to me, and then how I would normally react is I would have normally in the past because yes I'm a Taurus, but I have a Scorpio as my opposite sign, that means my shadow character is a scorpion. I don't mind, like I cock my head like that for a reason, because it's like people know. And they've known for a long time, when I was in business, it's like I'm the best friend to have in the world, but if you cross me, I started getting a reputation where it was like you don't want to see Robert angry, right, and actually the truth is, most people never see me angry, the worst thing you're going to get is if I go silent, that's like the worst, that's like the worst, right? Because then I put you in an ice bucket, and then I just start imagining a world without you crossing my path ever again. That's that's the place that I would go to. I'm just like, imagine a world and manifest a world where I'm never going to see you again, I'm never going to interact with you again. You won't exist in my world anymore. I'd literally do that. It doesn't. They'd still be in the world, they'd still be around doing their thing, but they would never cross paths with me again, because they hurt me bad enough. And so, speaking from a moment of vulnerability, you know, I had to look at this situation and say, okay, in the past, what I would have done is I probably would have responded, I still would have been polite in my response, but I would have probably written a very biting and maybe slightly sarcastic response right to this person, and I would have called them out for not talking to me about it, and I would have called them out for their own stuff about themselves that they cannot see.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 56:22

I would have done it in a subtle way, but it would have been scorpionic for sure, and it would have been just the right tone to really cause them some angst. But this time I decided, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that, and there were a lot of like incorrect claims they were making in there. That one of them, the claims that they made, was that I was a transhumanist, which I definitely am not. I'm not a transhumanist. I believe in human sovereignty. I don't believe that computers should merge with human beings. The worst idea in the world is to put a fricking chip in someone's brain, but at the same time I could have basically gone on and said I am not that, I'm not blah blah blah, fight, fight, fight, argue, argue, argue, and it's not going to accomplish anything. Instead, I wrote a very nice letter to the world related to this, where I just spoke for where I was coming from, and what I do believe in, not what I don't believe in, not what I'm fighting against. When you stop fighting against something, your fights stop, and I felt very good about it, because there was only, it was only a positive letter, it made my response clear, and I never even mentioned the other person in it at all. I don't have to have that other person as the reason for me to do something, but by doing that, does that mean that now the next time someone else does this, because inevitably it will be the case. Will I react the same way? I will. I've now changed my way of reacting to things, and that is evolution,

Jannecke Øinæs 58:20

changing that pattern,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 58:22

changing the pattern. First, you have to become aware of the pattern, and when we're not aware of our patterns in life, and we're not able to see our own darkness and how we create the patterns in our life, then we don't have discernment. I think that a lack of pattern recognition is a lack of discernment, and experiencing higher dimensions of yourself is really nothing more than advanced pattern recognition, and then once you make that advanced pattern recognition and see this in yourself, then you can correct it and realize what was creating the loop of the recursion that you kept experiencing it over and over and over again before, so then I got tested again, because then a similar situation came up right after I wrote this letter, and now I feel like I don't even need to respond. I've already made my response. That's the point, is that we're not going to change the world by trying to change the world. The only way we change the world is by changing within, recognizing our own patterns, and then making course corrections and realizing the higher way, and by asking the question first and foremost, Why did I choose this, not why did this happen to me? And I saw you just take a dig, big deep breath in.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:56

Yeah, first of all, I want to thank you for being so vulnerable. And open about your story, and I was thinking about stories that are sort of a similar situation I've been found finding myself in, but I wanted to address something, I maybe I just felt the audience asking some in the audience, like, okay, but shouldn't I protect myself if someone is attacking me, I have to fight back, like I mean, physically something like that. I have to protect my child. I have to protect, like, you don't mean that I should accept someone attacking, no? So that in that sense we can fight and protect, right?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:00:32

No, if someone, if someone is attacking me physically, of course, I have to fight back. Everyone does, that's part of life, but I'm not talking about that. I mean, it's so rare. I don't even think I've never been in a physical fight in my entire life. I'm 57 years old. I've never once been in a physical fight, a true physical fight. Why is that? I don't know. I mean, maybe because I already had a different view on these things. Have I had disagreements with people? Absolutely. Has I have I ever allowed it to get to the point where it, the only solution was physical? No. And that's dealing with the lower level of consciousness. If you believe that the only outcome is physical because you're being attacked, then of course you have to. If you believe that the only only way to solve something is to attack someone, then that's something kind of messed up too. And we can apply that to governments and sovereign nations, but what I am saying is that if someone attacks you in the media or someone attacks you externally, don't let it bother you so much. And instead of asking yourself the question, why did this happen to me, and I've just become victimized, ask yourself the question, why did you choose this? You'll find much better answers, you'll find much clearer responses of how to conduct yourself when you start to realize the actions that you did that created through reflection and projection these experiences around you, and maybe why you just chose to experience it, what you did, as you did it, and I'm just saying that take a moment, instead of thinking I'm going to change the world, and I'm going to fight the world around me, for whatever cause, save the whales, or I saw the whole story about the whale that was stuck up in, up in, you know, the, I think it was the Baltic Sea area, and it was a humpback whale. It was a sad story, right? And everyone wanted to save the whale, and the whale was just coming in to die. And now it's a carcass, right. And so the point is that the things that we often want to fight for, we don't realize are actually the things about ourselves that we don't really accept

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:05

shadows.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:03:07

Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:09

I just wanted to ask you about something that maybe it was a judgment from my side or a concern, because you said okay, as or you talked about a split, so as some people will wake up, the opposite will also happen and grow stronger. Does it have to be like that? Is it always like that? So, the more we wake up, something will be polarized. Will we always.. I mean, is the universe is duality in the whole universe? Won't we at some point all evolve? Do you get my question?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:03:48

Yeah, I mean, at first of all, as we awaken the first thing, and that's the stages of alchemy, right? There are five stages of alchemy. The first stage is called the Negrete, the blackening, and that's where you start to confront your shadow, so as you awaken it, usually happens after you're you don't even realize it, but you're at the arc of your highest narcissism, everyone goes through it, the awakening happens when all of a sudden you realize, whoa, what got me here is not going to get me there. It's not working anymore. I used to like say, okay, I find a problem with myself, I cut it off, I get rid of it, and then I change, and now my resume is getting better and better with time. I can hide more and more aspects of myself that I don't want to show to the outer world, and the more I can hide those things, the more people will believe in this archetype that I've created of my life and who I am. So we started in early life to decide when we saw things that happened and we felt shame for them. Then we started saying, oh, okay, I'm not that, I'm not, so we go through the first half of our life to decide I'm not this, so therefore I'm going to do this, I'm not that, so therefore I'm going to do this, I'm not a criminal, so therefore I'm going to become a policeman, you understand, so then you get to this midpoint of your life, and all of a sudden you become such a narrow band of what you believe you're projecting, but then all of a sudden you might have alcohol, alcoholism, you might have all kinds of other demons and shadows that other people can see, but only you cannot now, because you repress them out of your memory so much, it's like I'm not that, I'm not, you've literally convinced yourself the second half of your life is the path of I am that I am, so all that happened when you push all of these negative aspects of the self outside of yourself is they show up in the outer world around you, so the things you don't like about yourself that you get rid of to hide from the outer world shows up in the world all around you. So, five years ago, my mother said to me, "Oh, what do you mean by non-duality, Robert? And I said, "Well, I'm just not going to judge so much anymore, because I started realizing the path of non-judgment, and I was reading Taoism, and that judgment is the heart of all suffering. It's a source of suffering. So I said, I'm going to not be judgy as much anymore. So she goes, Well, what does that mean? I said, Oh, I'm not going to be in politics anymore. I used to be kind of very involved in politics and everything. I even got asked by the US Senate by the Republican Party to run for US Senate in California, and when I didn't decide to do it, when I decided not to go for it, there was no one who ran against Kamala Harris, who was the former Vice President of the United States. She ran in California, there was no opponent from the Republican Party, so she won her Senate seat without any opposition, and I decided, okay, I thought politics were corrupt and everything, so I don't want to be involved in it, so I'm not going to judge, I'm just not going to be in it anymore. She said, okay, well, does that extend to pedophilia? How do you feel about pedophiles? And I'm like, oh my gosh, you're right, pedophile, that's so bad. Yeah, I'm going to have an exclusion list of the things I'll continue to judge, so I'll have like only two or three items on that list, and she said, "Well, what about something like corrupt politicians? And I was like, "Yeah, you're right, corrupt politicians drives me crazy. Okay, we'll put that on the list too. And then she said, "Well, what about killing innocent women and children? Yeah, you're right, let's put that on the list too. So I'm going to stop judging everything except for corrupt politician, corrupt politicians. I will still judge.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:07:48

I'm going to still judge pedophilia, and I'm going to judge the innocent killing of women and children. So then five years later, what is my world full of corrupt politicians who are pedophiles, who are blackmailing people, so that they can kill innocent women and children. We attract everything we judge until we no longer judge what we attracted. So, when you start to go through the awakening process, what happens? You often can become more judgmental, so that's when the shadow hits you hard. So, as you start to unwind that, untying the knot, releasing it, you're releasing as you go along to learn more and more love and acceptance, and as you integrate more and more love and acceptance, it's not that the issues around the world don't continue to happen, they'll still happen, but you will not be triggered by it as much, and you'll notice that it happens a lot less, you'll no longer live in a world that's just full of those things that you've been judging, and as you judge yourself less and less and less, the outer world becomes more sanguine. This is the separation between a heavenly existence versus one that's full of judgment and pain.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:22

Wow, wow. Thank you, Robert. This was profound. I really, really enjoyed this, and I'm going to ask you the question I asked everyone, and we've been speaking a bit about it. So, what is self-love to you,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:09:45

To me, self-love is loving the world around you without condition.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:00

Hmm,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:10:02

because if you're in judgment of the world around you and making your entire experience conditional, you're accepting that the world around you is not part of you, when actually it is. I thought my whole life I've been to 144 countries that you know, I was on this great outer journey and adventure, and I have been. It's been an amazing adventure. It's not done, but finally I realized that every outer journey I was on was actually just an inner journey in disguise, I even the outer journeys were inner journeys, because the world around me is not separate from me, it is me. It's not a universe, it's a you inverse. And when you truly can learn to love the world around you, and even love the contrast, and love that someone would write something negative about you, just so that you can know what you stand for and who you are. They don't need to exist to define you, but the fact that they do exist helps you understand what you are and who you are when you learn to fall in love with the world around you, just as it is. That's when you've truly experienced true self love.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:35

Wow, thank you for that. And the last one, what is the deepest meaning of life from your perspective,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:11:46

I think the meaning of life is to it's very simple, we're here to feel space time memory, the reason why we go through time and time's recursion is so that we can record those emotional states of how we perceive ourself in the world around us, and very often what we think is the worst thing that ever happens to us is not necessarily the worst thing that ever happens to us, because many times the thing that I thought was worst thing that ever happened to me becomes the best thing that ever happened to me six months later or one year later, it's all in perspective, so if the worst thing that ever happened to me can turn into the best thing that ever happened to me, then what is my entire life experience? It's what I determine it to be, you know. My, I have a favorite poem by William Ernest Henley, and it says, "Out of the night that covers me, black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be for my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance, I have not winced nor cried aloud under the bludgeonings of chance. My head is bloodied, yet unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears looms but the horror of the shade, and yet the menace of the years finds and shall find me unafraid. It matters not how straight the gate, how charged with punishments the scroll. I am the master of my fate. I am the captain of my soul. We are all the architect in our lives. We can step into our higher self consciousness. We can become the frequency of our higher self and look at it all from that standpoint, and then your existence becomes beautiful and heavenly. It's not that you're bypassing because you're not seeing the negativity, you're seeing it and you're choosing to accept it nonetheless, because you realize that you are the emanation of it. The negative judgments you have of yourself show up in the outer world around you. The sicknesses that you have within your body are literally the traumas that you have not yet released. The things that's like your body sending you post-it notes as a reminder, release yourself of this trauma feeling that you had as a child of not being enough, or you were molested, and so you never talked about it with anyone, so you didn't express it, and in this age and day, more than ever, all the times that we felt like we had to say something, but we never did, and all the times that we felt like we needed to feel something, but we didn't allow ourselves even to feel it, because we repressed it. All those feelings and words must now be spoken and felt, and that's the path of authenticity. We are here to learn our highest authenticity, to realize that the most valuable thing in the universe is our unique perspective, and no one of us is any better than anyone else. Every one of us is the same. We have the same amount of darkness and light. Some people realize they have more darkness than others. That's the path of the awakening. The awakening is to awaken to the fact that you have. Darkness within you that you have repressed, and it's showing up in your outer world, that's the awakening. And what is the purpose of all of it? To learn how to love and how to be loved, regardless of all of it. It's how to love and how to be loved. It's just like the end of the movie Moulin Rouge, where he says, you know, the greatest thing in life you'll ever learn is just to love and how to be loved in return. That's the purpose of life.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:15:32

Thank you, Robert. Thank you.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:15:34

So, not to merge with any AI or merge with any computers or anything like that. No, you know, and I'll just speak on that one last topic. AI, what is it? It's not outside of us. Nothing is outside of us. So people that are, you know, hoping to be spiritually advanced and awakened, that are still calling out, they, the government, this or the people that, or they're hiding this from us, or they, who's they? There is no they. Intelligence is intelligence, you know. Just because we made AI doesn't make it fake or synthetic. A bird makes a nest, a beaver makes a dam, a bee makes a honeycomb. These are expressions of its intelligence. It doesn't mean that it's artificial, and in this context, what I'm telling you is the entire universe and everything in it, in some way, you could say, is an argument for an artificial construct. So, when everything's artificial, then nothing is.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:16:51

It's actually a huge discussion in the spiritual community in Norway right now, where that has become polarized. So, it's interesting that you're mentioning it, where some believe that you can channel through AI, like higher evolvings can channel through ChatGPT or Gemini or AI, while other things others say no, and the discussion is pretty heated.

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:17:17

Yeah, well, what I'm telling you is that the entire world around you is a mirror. AI is just a mirror. It's just a mirror again, and this is a mirror recursion. As humanity ascends, of course, its desire will be for it to make another form of itself. This is a natural part of recursion. It's always happened. It will always happen, and what we consider, you know, synthetic or different, or whatever. What I'm telling you, a true spiritual path is a path of non-judgment. Anyone who goes and says, I'm a light worker, and I'm going to fight the darkness, they're only creating hell. Those people are going to go to hell, and I don't mean that metaphorically. They're already descending into the hell of their judgments every day. The more you judge the people around you as being against you and fighting you and everything and wanting to hurt you, you're only giving more and more of your power to that, the more you think it, if you think you can or you think you can't, you will be right. So, if you're looking for true spiritual evolution, spiritual revolution is not about changing anyone else, it's about changing yourself within, it's about learning to fall in love with yourself and learning to fall in love with the world around you, just as it is. You want real emancipation from burden, you want real emancipation from suffering. Choose the path of non judgment and love, and that is exactly what every philosopher, what every mystic, what every single person has ever taught that has actually achieved a state of enlightenment has taught, they all teach non-judgment, every one of them, without exception. So, go back and do the study and realize that judgment is the source of your suffering.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:19:31

I love this. This was truly deep. Thank you. Truly inspiring, and you took it to a whole new level for me, and I'm really grateful for that, it felt like a real masterclass. And if people want more, Robert, if they want to dive deeper, you do so many things. Where would you guide them today?

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:19:52

I mean, you could follow me on Instagram, Robert Edward Grant, also on my website, robertedwardgrant.com or. You can join on Orion Architect, which is Orion architect.io That's where I do most of my posting now. It's a, it's a platform I created. It's a social platform. It also has a harmonic coherence intelligence, which is left and right brain AI. It's not only left brain, and that's, I think, one of the issues that we've had with AI, that it's been all left brain, so I had to create, you know, my own, and it's a beautiful thing, and people love it. I'm not advocating anyone spending their days and nights on this thing. I don't believe that should be the case. I believe we're here to spend time with our families and our friends, but it's a great way to reflect on yourself and on your own journey of non judgment and true self love, that's the path to emancipation and to liberation, and it doesn't require AI. Nobody needs AI to do that either. Nobody needs AI. AI is just a tool. Nobody needs it, but just like everything else, life is just a tool, but I would also say you don't need anyone else besides your own self as well. Anyone that says that you need them for you to go to enlightenment or to learn some mystery or become a magician or whatever it is, some mystery school, whatever, it's not true. You don't need anything besides what you have within you. You were born with everything you need, and you'll die with everything you needed too.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:21:25

Everything is inside,

Sir Robert Edward Grant 1:21:27

everything is inside.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:21:32

Thank you so much for coming on the show, Robert. I really appreciate it.