The Angel of Light: What’s Coming This Summer! With Orleane and Baird Smith

Cullen Baird Smith 0:00

The science in Atlantis was going in the wrong direction. What is happening today after Atlantis blew itself up? We are reliving that runaway science. Science is doing things that it has no idea what the long-term effect will be. If I use cell phones as an example, the research in the past 10 to 12 years is showing us they are frying our brains.

Pia Orleane 0:26

You're aware of the concept of the great split. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 0:29

yes,

Pia Orleane 0:30

everyone has already made their choice either to ascend or whether to continue their karmic path of lessons somewhere else in another moment. However, many have not yet awakened to the choice that they have made, and they still struggle in between, which brings the angelic work closer into humanity to help you recognize you made the choice to go forward. Now you simply have to listen to your heart and take action on this. The first time we met the angel of light, we were sitting in our living room, and we had friends over, and all of a sudden there was this flash of light, and we immediately felt the jolt of energy, and one of our friends instantly started a nosebleed and said, What was that? He had a physiological reaction, we felt the energy with us, and the angel of light announced, I am the angel of light. I'm interested in the conversation you're having, and I'm here to share energy with you.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:33

There are different waves of energy coming to earth this June that we're in right now, and this July, the waves that will be coming towards us are going to bring really different energies. People who are awake are going to feel these changes, and I believe these two months, June and July, will be the beginning of

Jannecke Øinæs 2:02

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Pia Orleane 3:18

We are absolutely delighted to be with you again, Jannecke.

Cullen Baird Smith 3:22

We love our conversations with you. You ask phenomenal questions. The depth of your questions are there, they're deep, but they're also organic. You, you ask questions, we talk about the questions that you bring forth, but then that brings another energy, another organic sense that then we trail into a sort of a thought exchange, so we're always happy when we're talking with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 3:55

Well, thank you for that. I really appreciate that. I think you know part of my process is being authentic and asking questions that come from my curiosity, my inner child, and I assume then that others might have a lot of the same questions, and if they don't, they have other podcasters they can go to, and I think the more we are authentic, the more we are ourselves. Someone out there will resonate with that too, and also be inspired to be themselves as well, and yeah, I just want to give it right back to you, because I really appreciate our conversations, and we recently met in Sedona, and I got to hug you, and I got to meet you in person, and this is your third time on the show, and the very first time you kenned on the show, it was the most watched ever, like almost a million people watched our episodes. So, my audience must be really resonating with your teachings. And now I also am very honored, you are going to be one of our masterclass teachers in Wisdom from North membership. Up, we're going to teach about how we can become cosmic citizens, and for everyone who is curious about wisdom from North membership, I'll drop a link below in the video description, and you can check it out now. For all our new subscribers today, I would love to introduce you. So, Pia, you are a psychologist and astrologer, Colin, you are a former anthropologist and archeologist, and now you have been channeling Larkma, who is an advanced Pleiadian collective for more than two decades. You've written books about this, you have a Pleiadian calendar, you have a card deck, and you're giving really beautiful wisdom and advice for the times we find ourselves in, and what I understand is that you're receiving so much downloads now that PIU contacted me and said, you know, we are in contact with light angels now, coming with really important messages to humanity, but I want to, before we dive into that, I would love for you to share a little bit about Larkma for those who are new to you. Has these Pleiadians, Larkma, have they ever walked on earth, and why did they connect with you at these times?

Pia Orleane 6:14

Well, Larkma themselves have never walked on the Earth, however, Pleiadians and other Pleiadian collectives have for 1000s and 1000s of years. The Pleiadians actually gave the Maya, the Mayan calendar. They walked among the Dorgon. They were part of the Christ and Mary Magdalene energy. They were there with all of that going on. They're part of the Cherokee tradition. They have stopped walking on earth now, because humans always turn them into gods. The Pleiadians don't want to be seen as gods, they want to be seen as our brothers and sisters. They come to show us what we're capable of, but because every time they shock people by what they can do, people back up and go, "You must be a god, I can't do that. So now they have chosen to channel to come through us to give the messages, so that people can integrate it in a more organic way.

Cullen Baird Smith 7:08

So there are many, many humans channeling not only Pleiadians like Larkma, but many other beings from other dimensions, other realms. Pia and I have been doing this, as you said, for a long time, and more and more people are waking up to the ability to do this, and all of us have the capability of doing this. It just happens to be getting our vibration up to the point where there's a match between the human qualities and the energy of the Pleiadians, the Arcturians, the Orions, whoever wishes to come through and and help benefit humanity in our evolutionary process. So this is speeding up exponentially. I mean, many, many, many people are realizing that they can do this, and that they can be an additional help to the support that's coming faster and faster.

Pia Orleane 8:11

We're sort of.. this is why LARCMA is here now. You ask, why now? This is the most transformational time we have ever had. There are waves of energy coming in. You want to talk about that a little bit?

Cullen Baird Smith 8:24

Sure, we have so much to share, Janneke. I'll, I'll try to be concise and, and not, not speak too much about any particular idea, because I don't want to stop us from getting through everything we need to share with you. There are energies that are coming to earth from various places, from our own sun, and our own sun is transforming. It's changing in its powerful, absolute, energetic form in ways that has never been available to humanity. We are being absolutely bombarded, and I mean that in a positive way, with radiation that is changing who we are. It's helping us become what we've said for years, our future selves, our cosmic selves, and these emanations from the sun are allowing us to go deeper and deeper and deeper into remembering who we really are, not just our humanness here on earth, but an amalgamation of all the essences of who we are in parallel lives. Larkma has a very different idea of when people talk about past lives, they say that actually everything is happening simultaneously, so we're experiencing other lives in other realms, other dimensions right now at the same time,

Pia Orleane 9:57

so why now? Now is the moment when. All the energies are coming together to support our moving inward to integrate all of who we are from multiple dimensions, so therefore as we raise our frequency, more and more energies are coming in, and I can tell you, for Cullen and me, they're coming in in just groups of beings that want to share, and one of the main messages we keep getting is that it is consciousness that determines the feeling. Consciousness is the feeling state that we have about what's happening, not what we think in our mind, not what we believe, but it's the confirmation, conscious consciousness confirmation of what we feel, not what we think, and not about information, so from that place we drop beliefs, we drop dysfunctional behavior, we drop all kinds of things in order to open our hearts and move into a new space, and that's what all these various energies are bringing to show it to us in different perspectives. So I think that's why we have LARCMA, of course, who's been working with us for almost two decades. Quantimo from the Arcturians, Dr. Antonis, a cosmic doctor, helping us with healing. Mother Mary bringing grace into our transitional process. Mary Magdalene teaching us to stand up for justice and see what's real. The angel, lately the angelic kingdom has been very vocal, particularly the angel of light, telling us that we have all these things that we're capable of, and to step out of our box and get into who we truly are by expansion from the inside, not focusing on what's on the outside.

Cullen Baird Smith 11:39

The interesting thing about this is the messages from all of these beings is basically the same, it's about open your hearts, let your hearts lead through your intuition, through telepathy, through all of the things that all of us are capable of, and step away from allowing the mind to control what we think is most important, because the wisdom of the heart is truly the most important energy available to us.

Jannecke Øinæs 12:15

Now, there seems to be a sense of urgency that they want our intention, like why is there an urgency, and then of course paradoxically there is no such thing as time, so if we have all eternity, why the urgency?

Pia Orleane 12:37

I think that's because we have been conditioned and trained for so long, to look outside of ourselves for answers. We've been taught that the brain is the most important thing, and that thinking is really important. We've been taught to look to our elders, to religions, to medical doctors, to parents, teachers, everything outside of ourselves. And I think all of these energies are coming in now to say it's not from outside. Stop looking outside. The moment is here for you to go inside, and going inside means that we drop the beliefs that we look at our shadows. One of the favorite things we love about what LARCMA brings is with every personal consultation they do with anybody or in any public presentation, they always, always say, "Don't believe us, trust in your heart, we're here to empower you to find the answers within, and that's what all these other beings are telling us. Also, don't look outside, so when somebody comes through on a show and a conversation like you're having with us, we're bringing it to the inside, we are listening to a different perspective, but we're giving it to our hearts to tell us what to do. I think that's why now is urgent.

Cullen Baird Smith 13:52

Well, it's also that the, the, the amount of chaos, the amount of turbulence, the amount of control issues that are part of our experience here in the third dimension are amping up, and I think part of the urgency is for us, as Pia just explained, to go within and to realize not only how powerful we are, how creative we are, but by understanding that we've kind of lost our sovereignty to all of all of the mechanisms that Pia just described, government, religion, education, all of the things that have formed us that maybe weren't true even in the first place, but we listened, and we thought, oh, we're being told these things are true. We just took that as, as a complete package of, well, if they're telling this to us, all of these different elements, it must be true. And I think the urgency now is to realize that. Maybe we need to be in control, maybe we need to be sovereign,

Pia Orleane 15:03

maybe we need to trust our own hearts and not rely on external things. If it resonates, it's for us. If it doesn't resonate, let go of

Jannecke Øinæs 15:14

it. Powerful. And is this tied and connected to what you've been speaking about in other videos that I've heard about the great choice point and the great split.

Cullen Baird Smith 15:24

Absolutely, absolutely, one

Pia Orleane 15:27

of the biggest dangers we have right now in what Lortma describes as the great split is stepping away from our heart guidance and nature, and instead continuing this pattern of relying on outside things to inform us, and the biggest part of that is relying on artificial intelligence, which does not come from the heart. It's a data collector, and we are gravitating as a species more towards that side of the split. So, the choice point is return to nature, empower ourselves, not follow artificial intelligence or anything of the outside,

Cullen Baird Smith 16:03

the design, the original design for humanity was absolutely biologic. We're here on a planet in a body to realize that we have the ability to create, we have the ability to really push ourselves in a particular direction, and that direction we believe was an organic biological direction, and we're being shown through technology that that things are easier if we use technology. We're finding that that's not true,

Pia Orleane 16:46

that the ease that is promised takes away our creative ability, our conscious considerations of what to choose, and allows us to move into a reliance on something outside of ourselves over and over and over, and true evolution only can come from inside, not from being told what to do. That's the old paradigm, that's what we've done for 1000s of years. It's time to wake up and realize that we have the power, we have the ability to move forward through what our hearts tell our minds to choose,

Cullen Baird Smith 17:20

and I would repeat something that Vea said a moment ago. Larkma always, always tells people, whether that's in a private session or in a public presentation, don't believe us, trust in your own heart, and what they mean by that is we have all the answers. We have simply forgotten through bad training, and bad training is something that we've written about and talked about forever. We have been trained not to trust ourselves. We have been trained to only trust lineages, elders, other factors that we've been told are more important than what we know intrinsically in ourselves,

Pia Orleane 18:07

that's very disempowering, because if we're taught to trust everybody else, what does that do for our own awareness, our own growth, our own evolution? So all of these voices from the light that are coming to us now are emphasizing, trust yourself. If you have an intuitive something, it doesn't have to make rational sense. Follow the intuition, and the reason will come. Trust yourself.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:33

I love that, Colin. I've also heard that you have memories from Atlantis, and that you worried that what you saw happening in Atlantis is going to happen again, that you see this is sort of being mirrored. Can you explain how you, I get curious right there, how you remember Atlantis, how it was like, and what you're worried about?

Cullen Baird Smith 18:57

Sure, it's a very vivid, a very real experience for me, just just asking me this question, Janicka. I have full body goosebumps because it's so important to me. I was there, I have full memory of it. It's not through hypnosis, it's not through regression.

Pia Orleane 19:17

Can I just add something?

Cullen Baird Smith 19:19

Sure,

Pia Orleane 19:19

I think that part of the reason either of us could remember specific things for Cullen Atlantis, for me it's Lemuria. I think it's because of what LARTMA talks about, about synchronistic experiences, that everything's happening at once, and as we begin to integrate more and more from the other lives, we remember them more clearly, and we hear that from other people that we talk with, maybe not to the extent that we remember, but the more people raise their frequency, the more that integration occurs, and they actually remember things.

Cullen Baird Smith 19:54

So, I'll just add one little thing, Pia and I have had glimpses. Is since childhood of these other parallel lives coming up to us. Some people call it bleed through, some people call it deja vu. There's so many ways of explaining how it happens or how it affects us. For me, Atlantis was an amazing, amazing experience. I was a scientist, but I disagreed with what was going on. I was a rebel scientist, and what I began to understand was that science at that point, which Larkma laughs at, because Larkma says human science, human technology is so archaic, it is so fundamentally physical, it's not filled with light and energy, they're they're the technology out in the cosmos is not mechanical like our technology. It's run on love, light, and sound. There's no harm created to the energies around it. Here, our technology unfortunately causes harm, whether that's EMF fog, whether that's changing the energies that come to our brains that confuse us, make us fatigued. I mean, I could go on and on and on. I won't do that, because I want to answer your question. I realized that that the science in Atlantis was going in the wrong direction, and I call that runaway science. What is happening today on this planet? All of these eons later, after Atlantis blew itself up, we are mirroring, we are reliving that runaway science. Science is doing things that it has no idea what the long-term effect will be. If I use cell phones as an example, cell phones are great for communicating, that's that's a wonderful aspect, but the research in the past 10 to 12 years is showing us that cell phones are ruining our brains, they are frying our brains, and it's scientifically proven. It's not a, it's not a conspiracy theory. The energy that comes through the radiation from the cell towers into the phone is affecting our biological brain activity.

Pia Orleane 22:39

I don't know if you're aware of this, but you may be in Sweden. In the last week, the public health department of the Swedish government put out their second warning to Swedish citizens, a little stronger than the first one, saying we are suggesting that everyone create a cellphone-free zone in your home where there is no cell phone allowed, and we're also encouraging parents not to use their cell phones around children, because it's harming the development of children. This from the public of health of the Swedish government. So, it is something Colin's telling you about, this actually documented.

Cullen Baird Smith 23:16

So, back to back to Atlantis, the whole idea of what Atlantis was was the energy was about crystals. Crystals were absolutely the energy used to create what science was doing at that time. What happened was the scientists were abusing crystals, they were pushing the crystals beyond their interest in doing what the science wanted it to do, and what we're seeing now is crystals are being used in all digital appliances, smartphones, computers, everything that's part of the digital age has crystal energy in them. What we're learning today is crystals have consciousness, and what that consciousness needs is to be asked, do you want to help, do you want to participate? Do you want to be part of this process? And we, as a human controlling element over the natural world, have not asked crystals these questions. We have forced crystals to do these things. That is mirroring what happened in Atlantis. It got to the point where the crystal kingdom said no, we're not going to do this anymore, and the further they pushed the crystal kingdom, it created such a diverse, dualistic, energetic experience that the entire energy grid bla. Itself up, and what I'm trying to help humanity understand is we are duplicating that with our runaway science.

Jannecke Øinæs 25:10

Interesting. Now, just to argue a little bit, could AI and our technology also, I mean, if we look at it from the perspective that everything is one and the no judgment teaching that technology is also part of us in a way that it's, it's sort of my, my arm, it's not me, but it's part like my fingers are part of me, so it's part of me, it's not something separate. Do you understand my question?

Pia Orleane 25:47

We do,

Jannecke Øinæs 25:48

so yeah.

Pia Orleane 25:49

Well, what the voices from light are telling us is that the concept of everything being one is talking about consciousness, and artificial intelligence has no consciousness, it collects data, and then it puts the data together in a way that it thinks will be most helpful. And right now it appears that everything they're doing is very helpful, but while they're putting the data together, they're also moving towards what's called singularity in the field, where they get stronger and stronger, and they can override human input, and that's the danger, because we're surrendering our responsibility for choice by saying, okay, you do it better, you do it, and we're surrendering our own human creativity, which is the very process of evolution. So, yes, there are many things that this technology is helpful with, but the danger is that more and more people are giving up their responsibility to make choices and simply telling the AI to do it for them.

Cullen Baird Smith 26:52

What, what's happening is we're being told that our lives will be easier, we will have more recreation time, we will have more time to pursue spiritual understanding if we allow AI or technology. It's not just AI, it's technology itself. We're being told that we will have a better life, we will have a more interesting life, and the research is showing one of our favorite people, who is talking about this, is Greg Braden. He, he has been talking about the dangers of allowing AI to become a controlling energy. His book, that that's been out for a little over a year,

Pia Orleane 27:44

two years, two years,

Cullen Baird Smith 27:45

pure human, really talks about losing ourselves in technology by stepping away from nature, by stepping away from our own creativity, by stepping away from, as Pia said, our own responsibility to take care of ourselves. AI and much of technology allows us to let go of our sovereignty.

Pia Orleane 28:12

It also is continuing the paradigm that we've been immersed in of looking outside, looking outside for answers. Let AI tell us what's there, instead of going inside. We surrender and say, okay, AI will do this for me. And so, again, we're not going inward, we're going outward, and that's what all the voices from the light are trying to stop us from doing.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:36

Yes, and speaking of that, let's hear a little bit about what has been coming forward from the angels, because they have been speaking about that we as humans are compartmentalizing everything. Could you explain what they mean by that, and the danger with doing that, and what to do instead?

Cullen Baird Smith 28:58

That's a great question.

Pia Orleane 28:59

Fantastic question, and we can tell you what their focus is on, but maybe you'd like to just hear from the Angel of Light talking about this

Jannecke Øinæs 29:08

with love. Yes,

Pia Orleane 29:16

I am the Angel of Light. The angelic kingdom wishes to know that all of you are beings of light. All of you have the power to be angelic in your choices. All of you have the power to be sovereign and make choices from the heart. What we see happening in your species that we call compartmentalization is part of the process of separation on your planet, you separate things into right and wrong, you and me, this country versus that country, everything is in a process of separate separation. Also, if you want to be healed, you go to a specialist who views one particular part of your body. That needs an adjustment or repair, and does not look at the whole person. This is part of compartmentalization. Everything that you've been trained to do compartmentalizes your thoughts and your actions, and the things that are discordant and do not match together. Let's look at the issue of what you eat. You say that you want to fight for animal rights, that you love your pets. You do everything you can because you want to be kind to the animals. You even choose animals that are created kindly before they're killed. That's the compartmentalization right there. How can you be involved in killing, and at the same time, you want to support animal rights. You have compartmentalized between it's okay to do this part with the animals, but not okay with that part of the animals. That's compartmentalization. When you decide, well, I don't want to kill anybody myself, but I certainly support this war that, where I see so and so and so is happening, you're compartmentalizing again. It's not moving towards unity, it's moving more and more into separation. That's part of the compartmentalization we are speaking of. Does that make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 31:16

Yes, it does.

Pia Orleane 31:18

We also speak about the fact that much of what Pia and Colin have been saying about the outside versus the inside is another form of compartmentalization. You compartmentalize a need to study and learn by listening to outside voices, and yet you do not recognize your own power to pull all these voices together and discern whether this is actually in alignment with your heart and your evolution, or whether it's more in alignment with the old paradigm of learning from outside. That's another form of compartmentalization. One thing that we are telling people continually is that don't rely upon the compartmentalization of disclosure. Again, you're looking for something outside of you to disclose that we, that the Arcturians, the Pleiadians, other beings from the light, that we are here. You're looking for an outside verification, another compartmentalization. When you go inside, your feeling state will let you know, and feel we are here. We are with you. We are standing beside you right now. One of us is touching your shoulder, Janneke. As you become more aware of your inner guidance, you become more aware of what you feel as we touch you and become part of you. There's a more and more and more things we can talk about with compartmentalization. With disclosure, we are already here. The level of your awareness indicates how you feel and recognize our presence from the inside. You do not need to wait through something from the outside to disclose the reality of this, in fact, from our perspective. When you look at things from the perspective of, well, I've been told this is true, and it is disclosed from you to you, then you are separating yourself from the wisdom that leads into higher recognition. In other words, your distraction to outside information keeps you from moving forward in your own heart evolution. It is distracting, so you don't listen to the heart to see what you need to do next, or how to move forward. Sensationalization. Sensationalization it shocks humans into paying attention, but it also distracts humans through compartmentalization of what they've seen instead of allowing them to flow into what it actually means from the heart. So we are encouraging you to open your hearts to realize that we are here, all of us, all of the voices from the light are here, not just the angelic kingdom, the angelic kingdom that we are from, and that I am speaking from now, as the angel of light is here to tell you, you have angelic energy within you, you have the power to be able to discern what is true and what can help you move forward. We angels are always here to help lift the weight of the suffering you experience, and we're very aware that many of you are going through this time of purification, purging out things that no longer belong in a way that is uncomfortable or even painful for you. These are some of the things we mean by compartmentalization. I would be happy to entertain any questions you have about this perspective.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:55

Yes, thank you. I am curious, how we can. Really, connect with what our true feelings are. When we have been programmed to listen to the outside, to the experts on the outside, it's not always easy to actually know what we feel about something, if that is our mother's feelings, our father's feelings, someone else's feelings, like how do we really know what we feel about something?

Pia Orleane 35:27

That is a wonderful question, and we're pleased that you're interested in how you feel. I would say to you that what you feel is yours alone, not belonging to anyone else, it is yours. While people do pick up feelings from their parents and others in their world, they have to learn to discern what am I feeling and what am I thinking about what I feel. If it's coming from you, your heart is going to give you guidance. If it's coming from outside of you through what someone else feels your mind will start talking to you and rationalizing about what it believes to be true. So, in discerning what you feel, one key thing is to notice that discernment comes without emotion. Feeling that has emotion attached to it is always involved in judgment, and judgment comes from the mind, not from the heart. It is one of the separating elements that causes compartmentalization. So, simply learning to, shall I say, feel with noticing whether you're thinking or whether you're simply having a feeling is an excellent step, and then when you simply notice I'm feeling, but I don't know what I think, go deeper into the feeling. Does it feel positive? Does it feel scary? If it feels positive, your heart is guiding you. If it feels scary, you are engaged in your mind, afraid of judgment, afraid of following the wrong belief, making the wrong choice, or listening to the outside guidance in the wrong way. So the feeling state is acknowledged and accepted by allowing yourself to truly feel it. There are, as many will tell you, and as the whole angelic kingdom has been saying lately there are many who are in such pain right now that they are crying out for help, but they do not realize that the help will not come from outside. The help is coming from connecting to the inside. We live in your heart, even though we may energetically stand around you and give you energy to support your guidance. That simple touch that I or any of the angels provide is a heart opener. I open your hearts. The angel of light that I am is the conduit for bringing light and recognition into you, so that you receive light and you simultaneously accept that you are light, then the connection is made, then the divine spark a lights who you are, then the fear disappears, because love and fear never go together, and then you can actually recognize, yes, this is the truth of what I'm feeling, and this is how I align with unity rather than separation and compartmentalization. Does this resonate with you?

Jannecke Øinæs 38:31

Yes, it does. Thank you so much. And I'm curious about where we're headed, because in this episode we've been speaking about some concerns about where humanity is headed in relation to technology. However, we've also heard that 2027 will be very different, and many are saying that we're moving towards the golden age and age of Aquarius. So, what do you see as angels? I mean, you have a higher perspective, and I do understand that everything happens now, and that we have free will, but still, do you see humanity is actually taking a huge leap and elevating their consciousness, and that we are actually moving towards higher states of consciousness.

Pia Orleane 39:18

You're aware of the concept of the great split. Yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 39:22

yes.

Pia Orleane 39:24

So everyone has already made their choice. The choice point has been made either to ascend into this golden age of which you are speaking, or whether to continue their karmic path of lessons somewhere else in another moment. However, many have not yet awakened to the choice that they have made, and they still struggle in between, which brings the angelic work closer into humanity to help you recognize you made the choice to go forward. Now you simply have to listen to your heart and take action on this. So we do see, although we do not like larkpa, we don't make predictions. I can tell you that I see the light is enlarging. Many are awakening to remember. Oh, I didn't choose to go with that path, I chose to be on the ascension path. And as the many awaken more and more to that, the split becomes more equitable right now. The split is three quarters or more focused upon technology and focused upon the choice to evolve at a slower pace, and the 1/3 or so, or 1/4 are focused upon, "No, I am listening to my heart and moving forward, because I'm curious about my evolutionary path. Now I see that that number is shifting as many begin to understand that the true guidance comes from within, as I make connections to awaken you, and as others stand beside bringing forth information that you align with. Yes, 2027 2027 will be very different. You're going to go through the continuation process of purification, purging, because you have to break away from the old paradigm in order to evolve into who you wish to become, and this process is lasting through this year and the early part of 2027 but by spring equinox of 2027 those who have been struggling with what is the truth. How do I truly feel? How do I align with the higher guidance? Those who have chosen the path of ascension will have awakened to this choice and will automatically be banding together all of you in order to be able to bring forth the portion of humanity that is decided to take the evolutionary leap. Now I will tell you, all humans will eventually arrive at the same place. However, the choice of when and how and what moment to grasp in order to achieve this is individual, even though from your perception of time you're aware of which ones are aligned with the progress of ascension and curiosity about the process, and which ones are aligned with discarding this and saying no, it's not true, you're aware of that in time, but as you become more immersed in the process itself, time slips away, and suddenly all you're aware of is the humans who have chosen to make the evolutionary leap, and how you are banding together to make this happen. Does that explain it somewhat.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:42

Yes, it does. Thank you so much. And I would like to ask, before I go back to Pia and Colin, angels - I've had many guests on the show speak about angels, and I'm always curious about what an angel is. Have you ever walked on earth, maybe gone through the evolutionary process we're doing now, and elevated your consciousness? Or are you a spark of God? Are you traveling around the universe helping extraterrestrials as well? Like, what? Tell us a little bit about angels, where you are residing, if that makes sense at all, to ask that question, and a little bit about what is what is like being an angel.

Pia Orleane 43:30

Being an angel is being aware of the light that we are, and how to use that light through love to support all who wish to evolve and grow and return to source, we are from source. We are the light, just as you are a part of source yourself, being a divine spark of light. Our evolutionary process has been different from yours, although your process is based on duality, and our process was understanding duality more deeply. Our process has been an understanding the difference between fear and love, and then sharing that love is the greater power. Yes, we have been on earth many times, but not walking as humans do, and not evolving through the same exact process that you do. Our dualistic perspective came from understanding more fully that light and dark are interconnected, but that dark is not bad. Look at the night sky. Dark at the current moment has simply lost its way, and those of us who have been long aligned with knowing that we are light, are inviting the dark back into the hole of darkness and light together, as light encompasses dark and guides it in its beauty, not in its destructive aspect. So, yes, there are many of the angelic kingdom who are coming through those who can hear. Feel and sense our messages, and we acknowledge that they are part of the angelic community, bringing forth higher awareness and helping you to change change into your own higher evolutionary self. We also bring you the power to recognize the strength that you carry and what we feel since you asked that question is the heaviness of what you feel in your grief and your sorrow and the desire to lift you up into your state of bliss and joy, that is the duality that we experience at this time. Our service is to help raise you up, bring you higher perspectives, and empower you to be who you truly are, a spark of light, as we are sparks of light, returning to source. You, like we, in this evolutionary process, have the opportunity to return to source and become cosmic citizens with a completely different experience than your earthly experience, and those who have made the choice at the choice point long ago to follow this pathway will be multiplying, and you will be creating communities and seeing each other move in that direction as the others who have chosen to go more slowly will be dropping away from your awareness, and you will eventually not even notice a split is going on, they will go on their slower path. You will be embracing the evolutionary leap that has been offered to you with the angelic help and the help of all of the voices from the light.

Jannecke Øinæs 46:37

Can we always ask for your help, and will you always help us, and are we never alone?

Pia Orleane 46:44

We would plead for you to ask for our help. We would beg of you to ask for our help. We will always answer your questions and provide support. Your job is to simply accept that we are there and to listen from your heart, not your mind. So many humans ask for help, and then listen for an answer in their head, rather than asking the question, surrendering it for the answer to arrive, and then recognizing it comes through your intuition. That's the pathway. And yes, we always are here for your help. We will always answer. We are always here, and we are a large part of your evolutionary process. We are the guides who care for you, who love you, who bring you into the higher versions of yourself, and who beg for you. Please ask us when you need guidance, and please don't expect how that guidance will come, but simply open to it coming in many ways. It will come through an intuitive impulse, it will come through an instinctive knowing, it will come through hearing words through your connection to us, it will come through movement, it will come through recognizing beauty and light, but we always, always answer you, and you are never alone, because we are always with you. Each of you has a high self angel, a healing aspect angel, an angel leading you forward to guide you. Each of you has different angelic components of the angelic kingdom, helping and supporting you, and we are here to help you move away from compartmentalization of all those different angelic aspects into the unity of the light and the love that you are and that you carry. Thank you for such a wonderful question.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:40

Thank you so much for your guidance today.

Pia Orleane 48:43

You are very welcome. Thank you for being opening to hear our perspective. Thank you for listening and being concerned about how to move forward and evolve, and to do so with joy rather than pain. I encourage you to open your heart, so that the compartmentalization into which you have been trained will drop away, and you will experience daily more bliss, more joy, more healing, and definitely more unconditional love that radiates out from who you are. I leave you in love.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:19

Thank you. Bye. Wow, I really appreciate that they're saying that. Thank you for listening to our perspective, not saying that this is the truth, this is the way it is, and that I feel that's a change from what it was before, 20 years ago, actually, in the spiritual sort of channeling and community. Yeah,

Pia Orleane 49:50

that goes along with the idea of empowering us rather than the old paradigm of listening to what we say. It's absolutely aligned with the new energy.

Cullen Baird Smith 50:00

I think you've hit on something that's extremely important, Janneke. All of these energies, what we call voices from the light, they're here for support, but they're not here for control, they're not here for opinion, they're not here for judgment, they're here simply as the angel just spoke in a supportive role, not not an authority, not not an essence of you need to listen to us, because we have the only truth. What they understand is that we all have the truth, and all of us need the support simply to remember that and to empower ourselves with that,

Pia Orleane 50:46

and I find from the message that was just shared, which we've heard for the first time, just like you did, I find it very interesting that they say Angel of Light says she comes through us, and that's emerging energy that's moving towards unity rather than the separation we've been experiencing, so it seems to me that when the angels say we feel your distress and your pain and your heaviness, and we're giving you an opening for light, there is a true merging with our higher selves going on, which is a wonderful gift.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:22

Yeah. I mean, we used to be thinking extraterrestrials, angels, humans, inner earth beings, and then they're communicating that we're really you and you are us and we're not above you, they're saying that again and again, but I think it's sort of stuck in our subconsciousness, that the God thing on the cloud, that's really ingrained in us, and we have to hear the message again and again. You are powerful, you're just as powerful. Oh yeah, I forgot. Yeah, so I'm curious, how do you know that you are communicating again with different beings or energies, are they coming forward, introducing themselves, saying, "Hello, I am the so and so, or do you just feel that there's a different frequency of energy, or do you see them? Like, how do you experience this?

Cullen Baird Smith 52:19

That's a great question.

Pia Orleane 52:21

It has multiple answers, too. The first time we met the angel of light, we were sitting in our living room, and we had friends over, and all of a sudden there was this flash of light, and we immediately felt the jolt of energy, and one of our friends instantly started a nosebleed and said he had a physiological reaction, we felt the energy with us, and the angel of light announced, I'm the angel of light, I'm interested in the conversation you're having, and I'm here to share energy with you, that was our introduction to the angel of light,

Cullen Baird Smith 53:02

some of the, some of the other things just do what Lord McCall's give us a nudge. We, we have some hilarious stories. Some of the, the, the newer voices that are coming to us will use physical, earthly, and electronic energies to, to give us the sense that they're here. One, one of the, the other angels, and this is, this is going to sound really funny, will turn an electric tea kettle on, and, and they do that to get our attention. We know we didn't turn the tea kettle on because we're sitting in a trance state.

Pia Orleane 53:49

So we will ask, Who's here? We feel you. Who's here? Sometimes we see them as waves of energy or the flash of light from the angel of light. Sometimes we just feel them. Sometimes they announce who they are, sometimes they just start talking, and we have to say, okay, who are you? Please, yeah, please, your name, where are you from? So it's varied, they each come from a different perspective, and they each have a very individual way of announcing themselves.

Cullen Baird Smith 54:17

One of the most interesting ways that they announce themselves is aroma or scent, we smell something, and we look at each other and go, did you smell that, that, that it smelled like jasmine, or it smelled like roses,

Pia Orleane 54:35

or it smelled like tobacco,

Cullen Baird Smith 54:37

or or coffee,

Pia Orleane 54:39

it can be anything,

Cullen Baird Smith 54:40

and what we realize is they're using our senses to alert us that there's something going on, that there's an energy present that we weren't aware of, because we weren't using all of our senses at that moment, but they use aroma as the trigger for us to go, oh, let's be still. People, and realize there's someone trying to communicate with us,

Pia Orleane 55:03

and sometimes we, we just have a conversation and talk, and sometimes they will say, 'Write this down, and we'll have to write down everything they say to share with the public or for ourselves, and sometimes they will say, 'Do you want to turn your recorder on? We have a message, and sometimes it's just private for the two of us, it's very unexpected, unpredictable, and it pretty much directs our lives all the time,

Cullen Baird Smith 55:29

and since we've been talking about technology a lot, some of them use electrical appliances, like, like the tea kettle, or sometimes a television will turn itself on. We're not involved with watching the television at that point.

Pia Orleane 55:47

We don't even have a functional television in our house. The only one that is in our house has been dismantled. But if we go to a hotel and somebody needs to talk to us that we're not connecting with immediately, they'll turn the television on. So it happens in many, many ways, and some of it is so humorous that we have to laugh and go, they must have a sense of humor too,

Jannecke Øinæs 56:09

right? I love that, so it's pretty crowded at your place.

Cullen Baird Smith 56:16

Well, it's interesting, some people notice that we, we went out to breakfast the other day, and the waiter, who was this really wonderful young man, looked at us sort of like, you know, how a dog will will tilt its head when, when they're, when they're feeling or seeing something, and we could notice that the dog is acting like that, he was tilting his head at us, and he goes, you seem very otherworldly. Do you, do you have someone traveling with you? He could, he could actually sense the fact that these energies follow us around always, like, like the angel of light said a moment ago, we're always with you. So some people can perceive these energies, whether they understand it or not, they're still understanding that there is something going on that's either otherworldly or unusual,

Pia Orleane 57:11

and I think that's what the angel of light was talking about when she says don't compartmentalize, open to what's here, just be open to it, and then you will find the disclosure you're seeking, or the answers you're seeking within you. Just pay attention. A big message they're all giving us right now is pay attention.

Cullen Baird Smith 57:33

Well, and they're also giving us this is an interesting thing about all these voices and all these energies, they're basically giving us the very same message: wake up. It's time to truly understand that you've been living in an illusion for a very long time, and it's time to separate yourself from that illusion and see a much bigger picture, a much bigger cosmic understanding, and they're all giving us the same message. Wake up, be the sensitive beings you are. Let go of all your beliefs, let go of all the old things that you've been holding on to, all the traumas, all the grief, all the sorrow. Let go of that, because you're utilizing life energy, either resisting those things or holding on to those things, and they say if you stop doing that, the life energy that's available to you will grow and grow and grow, and you will, you will be a much different person, a much different being.

Pia Orleane 58:43

And I think the call to wake up right now is definitely connected to the choice point that everyone has already made, because so many people don't know they've already made a certain choice, and that need to wake up to it. And those who have chosen not to awaken, they need to be content in their own path and know that they've chosen a different thing, but it's okay, it's not to be judged, it's not to be convinced to be otherwise, they've just chosen to take a slower path to evolution, and there's no judgment in that, we have it's human choice, we

Cullen Baird Smith 59:15

have to give everybody the right for their own evolutionary path, whether, whether it might look even non-judgmentally, it might look like, wow, why do you make those decisions? Why do you continue in that loop of things that don't serve you, and we just have to allow everyone their own path, their own evolution, and as the angel said, everybody eventually is going to get back to source. Everybody's going to be reunited. It's just that we choose different paths.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:54

Yeah, I came to realize that many years ago that I'm not here to convince anybody, and I don't. Know anything about that person's soul path and their higher self's plan, you know, that is not my business. My business is my business, and their business is their business. Do you think, though, that this split, like, will there be sort of a physical split, because can we coexist on the same planet, Earth, with these different frequencies or different levels of consciousness in the long run.

Pia Orleane 1:00:30

Well, we are experiencing existing with them right now. That's a

Cullen Baird Smith 1:00:33

yes, and a yes. It's happening. The process that you're talking about is going on right now, and we can give you examples of we can be driving down the road, and we come to an intersection where there's a stoplight or or a stop sign, and someone will look both ways, and they don't even see us, they just pull out right in front of

Pia Orleane 1:01:05

us, empty, staring at us.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:01:06

We have to jam on the brakes, that is showing us that there are two parallel realities going on at the same time. They're not aware of our energy, they're only aware of what they're doing in their choice of their timeline of what they're seeing,

Pia Orleane 1:01:22

but somehow miraculously, because we're in a different dimensional experience, and we can see where they are. Somehow miraculously, we're never hurt. We get through it, even if they're plowing right into us. Either our breaks will stop us, or we suddenly something just shifts, and we get through it, so we see what's happening, but they don't, so it's already happening. I think from what the angel of light and the angelic kingdom are telling us that we're going to reach the point where we're no longer aware of what they're doing, and they're still here on the earth. We're still on the earth, but we're moving into a frequency that's different than theirs, and

Cullen Baird Smith 1:02:01

conversely, they're not aware

Pia Orleane 1:02:03

of us,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:02:03

of the humans that are so light-filled, they won't be able to see us. They will not be aware that we're moving in a different direction. We're on the ascending path, and they won't trouble themselves thinking, well, what are these people doing? Because they won't even notice.

Pia Orleane 1:02:26

There's also the earth is participating in this, and as you probably know, there's an increase in volcanoes under the ocean, earthquakes across the planet, all kinds of movement that is the earth is moving into a new existence, a higher reality. Lot of people call it the new earth. The new earth is a different frequency, but the physical, third-dimensional earth is expressing movement to propel the lighter frequency to become more available. So, lots of changes, and they won't happen everywhere all at once.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:03:03

What, what we're getting, Janneke, is that there are different waves of energy coming to earth. I talked about this earlier in our discussion, but I didn't really pinpoint what I meant. Something great happened on the spring equinox in 2025 a new energy became available. People felt it. People's lives were changed. Moving forward to this past spring equinox, just a few months ago, it increased exponentially. More and more people were feeling, wow, I'm seeing things I was never aware of before. My sensitivities are becoming more precise, more amped up. We believe from from what we're being given that this month of June and July we're just starting June, we're just on the today's the third of June, I believe this June that we're in right now, and this July the waves that will be coming towards us are going to bring really different energies and people who are aware, people who are awake, people who are becoming more sensitive, are going to feel these changes, and I believe these two months, June and July, will be the beginning of what we're going to be feeling in early 2027

Pia Orleane 1:04:36

or they may be what we're finally clearing out and letting go of to be prepared for 2027 it, we don't know, we just know as a powerful waves that are coming in, we're not sure, because we've never gone through this, what it's going to mean, but it can be either, either, or

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:55

that is so interesting, I just interviewed David Clements, and he said. Exactly the same thing, June and July, two or waves coming. I don't know how many waves, but there were powerful waves coming this summer. Never happened before. And here you're saying the same,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:05:15

you're giving me goosebumps.

Pia Orleane 1:05:16

Truth comes from many sources, and apparently we're hearing truth, and we'll have to watch that interview, but truth comes from many sources, and apparently this is absolutely something we're going to experience.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:05:29

Yeah, it's, it's amazing to us in this conversation right now, because something in you lighted up when, when we were speaking about this, and we didn't know about David Clements saying the same thing, but it's absolutely true that the same truth, the same information is coming through many, many humans, and they don't even have to be channelers, they don't even have to be psychics, people are just beginning to get these impulses of these waves, these these energetic boosts of information, and it's going to intensify in a very positive way.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:12

Wow, so I guess just stay tuned and be aware and open up and trust, and yeah,

Pia Orleane 1:06:22

very good guidelines,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:06:23

and it's, it's an antidote to all the doom and gloom and all the negative things that people talk about, that people, people want to be scared in a way, they want to, they want to think about and talk about things that they don't understand, and so they put it in a scary envelope, and they either don't want to look at it, and they push it away, or they talk about it and get more scared, and more scared, and

Pia Orleane 1:06:51

more attached to it,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:06:52

and what we're talking about right now, about new energies and positivity, is way more powerful than the scary parts of what the the mass media news or or the chaotic information that's being pushed around in social media and other platforms. What we're talking about with you today is so much more powerful, it's so much more life giving, and we have to realize that it's really potent and powerful, and it is making a difference,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:30

for sure. And I've heard that positive energy is so much more powerful than negative energy. Yes, absolutely. The good news, that's the good news. Well, this has been so intriguing and profound, as always. Thank you so much for coming back to the show. And I can't wait to collaborate more with you, and for our members to experience your masterclass in our membership that is coming late 2026 And I have some final questions that I always ask everyone, and Neil, I think you know them by now. Maybe your answer has changed. So, Pia, first, you, what is self love to you?

Pia Orleane 1:08:08

Self love to me is loving the energy of I am in any given moment, whether it feels comfortable or uncomfortable, just loving it and recognizing it is just an experience that's leading me in my evolutionary journey,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:23

beautiful. What about you, Colin?

Cullen Baird Smith 1:08:26

Well, mine, mine would be similar to Pia's. Actually, self love to me, and I've written and spoken about this for decades, is accepting all of who I am, accepting all of the aspects, positive, negative, good, bad, I mean, there shouldn't be judgments about them anyway, but, but realizing that I am all of those things, and that they all have something to contribute, and they all have something to give me in my evolutionary process

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:04

powerful, and to both of you, what is the deepest meaning of life from your perspective?

Pia Orleane 1:09:12

That life never stops as long as you are living from consciousness. If your heart and your consciousness are aware, then life continues, it doesn't resolve by being in any particular condition. It's not life or death, it's all life, it's just different forms. So you have to stay in the awareness that your consciousness is present, because the only true death that ever happens is when you disconnect from your heart and your consciousness, and then you may disconnect from the physical body too, but death comes when you've turned off your conscious awareness in your heart. Life is about that energy being either in physical body or etheric form. It doesn't matter, it's a continual living process, you.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:10:01

The only, the only thing I can add to that is energy is everything, and energy is formless. It doesn't matter what form it takes, it's always available, and probably my understanding of the meaning of life is to be three things, self-aware, joyous, and to ultimately be of service.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:38

Well, thank you so much for being of service. I really appreciate your work, and if anyone now wants to learn from you or work with you or receive some help from you, how can they do so? Can you guide them?

Pia Orleane 1:10:51

Sure, we have a website, it's Larkma L A A R K M A .com and on the website you can find our published books, you can find access to personal sessions to help you move over blockages or give guidance. And we have an event that we are engaging, we're bringing the voices from the light and LAARKMA to Sedona for people who wish to come and be a part of a live wake-up event, and if you're not able to come all the way to Sedona, we will be offering a live stream to that event, so people can access that by looking on the website. All the directions of how to join are there for hopefully everybody could come in person, but seating is limited, so we do have the live stream backup for those who can't attend.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:11:38

This event is planned for August 1, and we hope that as many people as possible will come and experience what Larkma will bring to them and other voices of light who wish to speak, because there's always a plethora of energies that want to be included in what Larkma has to share, so we never know who will wish to show up, but many, many voices most likely will show up, so there'll

Pia Orleane 1:12:14

be question and answer options for people. Also,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12:20

wonderful, sounds amazing. I wish I could be there.

Pia Orleane 1:12:24

I also very much look forward to being involved with your masterclass series. Yeah,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:12:29

we're excited,

Pia Orleane 1:12:29

we're excited about that, and looking forward to

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12:32

it. Yeah, thank you so much. There has been so many people asking to have you as masterclass teachers, so I'm really proud to say yes, they are on board. Thank you for your service to humanity. Thank you for your beautiful work, and for coming back on the show.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:12:46

We, we are always pleased to come back. Being being in your energy and being on your podcasts are a highlight in our work. Believe me, I am, I am absolutely hell. helped and encouraged to do what we do through being able to be on your podcast and help people and be in your energy in doing what you're doing, because this is teamwork. We can't do it alone. We have to collaborate and we have to share together.

Pia Orleane 1:13:24

Our conversations are richly rewarding all the way around. Thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13:30

I appreciate that.