She Was Taken Aboard a Spacecraft as a Child. Clinical Psychologist and Channeler on the New Dawn of Earth! With Marilyn Gewacke

Marilyn Gewacke 0:00

He would take me out into the country. We'd stand in fields, and these crafts, Jannecke, would come over us, and all of a sudden we would be, my father and I, both on the craft physically, and it was a teaching craft for children. And sometimes during what I would call the recess, we got to see extraterrestrial children. We would sit in front of screens and produce art and music on the screens from our own consciousness, and we would learn to do levitation and bilocation, and all these incredible things. We can utilize consciousness to travel, that we have an energetic body that's capable of doing a whole lot of things like fly and levitate,

Jannecke Øinæs 0:44

really.

Marilyn Gewacke 0:45

Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:47

As a psychologist, were you first thinking, am I crazy?

Marilyn Gewacke 0:52

Listen, I went through such doubt, and even when Zazar came through me, he said, we'll be in a classroom for two years before we go public with any of this, your DNA has been mutated. Why? Because humans have gotten into a lot of trouble with the wars and the fighting and the greed, and this DNA is coming in. It's the 13th strand of the 12 strands that are being activated in humans right now, so much is happening on earth. The new dawn has to happen human to human. It can't be us that is taking away free will. You have no idea when all humans are lifted up to their grandest potential. What you are going to create as a human race, ah

Jannecke Øinæs 1:46

Hey, I have a favor to ask you. If you appreciate these conversations, then thank you so much for subscribing to my channel. Marilyn Gewacke, a warm welcome to the Wisdom From North show. How are you?

Marilyn Gewacke 1:59

I'm really great. It's so really good to be here, Jannecke.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:04

I'm so excited to meet you. We've tried to schedule a few times, and apparently now is the time, and I'm really curious to hear and delve into your story today, because you've had quite the extraordinary life, and we'll dive into that. You're also a clinical psychologist who turned a channeler of this omni dimensional cosmic being called the Zsar, and I think he has some powerful messages that he wants to share today. And you're also an award-winning author of two books, and now I know that we're both going to meet at the San Diego Transcendence Retreat this fall, which I just.. I'm so excited about. You're going to be on my panel. I'm going to have a Wistar for North live show. Can't believe I'm going back to America already. I'm so, so honored. And Dr. Ibn Alexander is going to be there, Daryl Anka, so I can't wait, and for anyone who's interested, of course, I have a link below, so check it out now. Marilyn, let's dive into your story. How do you feel ever that everything you're going to share today? How do you feel that that might expand people's minds and consciousness.

Marilyn Gewacke 3:22

Well, I have to tell you this right before this interview, all the lights in my home flickered for about a good 60 seconds. I always know when the lights are flickering, that is when the galactics are near and saying yes, so I just had to share that with you. How will my story is, you know, so many people have extraordinary things happen in their life, but they don't remember, like contact with the galactics, like remembering very high incarnations, and my hope is that by sharing my story, it will trigger memories in those folks about extraordinary things they've experienced, but have forgotten gifts that are lying await inside, ready to be manifested for this incredible mission on earth, so I hope at the very least I can be a catalyst for other people to realize their own magnificence,

Jannecke Øinæs 4:31

beautiful. So apparently from when you were three to eight years old, your father brought you to some not ordinary ships, and I'd love the details of the story.

Marilyn Gewacke 4:47

So, I have to tell you, my father was an attorney by trade, so he was in the mainstream, but that's not how I knew him. For me, he would take me out into the country, we'd stand in fields. And these crafts, Janneke would come over us 500 feet. I was little, and he would look at the crafts, and he would say, "Now, let me tell you about them, where they're from, that this is true, that there is life out there in the universe, you need to know this. These crafts would be some would be cigar shaped, some would be different shape, but they would be really close, and I remember that so distinctly. But he always said to me, 'But just don't tell Mommy that we're talking about this. And so there were points later in my life that I begin to remember that lights would come in the field, and all of a sudden we would be, my father and I both on the craft physically, and it was a teaching craft for children, hundreds of human children, and sometimes during what I would call the recess, we got to see extraterrestrial children, and what was taught that I'm so clear about was how to expand our consciousness, we would sit in front of screens and and produce art and music on the screens from our own consciousness, and we would learn to do levitation and bilocation and all these incredible things, and I remember playing with extraterrestrial children, but as a child, it wasn't. It didn't feel that unusual. It just felt absolutely fun and glorious. I remember getting in line to go back down to earth and feeling like, oh my gosh, now I have to go back where my consciousness has to shrink so much. Now I know Janneke, that I met Zazar on that craft. He is this extraordinary being that I now channel, and he was helping me get ready to be a channeler that has enough integrity and grace to really channel this incredible high information from him, so I was with him on the craft when I was little, and this again happened between three and 10. I have met a couple of other people who have clear memories of this same craft, and I believe there are many of you out there who have had these experiences, positive, really good experiences with the galactics. Disclosure has already been happening to many of us, and that's just part of my story. But I have to tell you this: years later, maybe 20 years ago, I got a phone call on a flip phone from the Galactics. Now I know it was Azar with a spaceship pictured on the phone, and this most amazing music coming out of the spaceship. The first time it happened was at the dentist office, and the music somehow got projected on all their speaker system. The head dentist was like, "What's going on? It sounds like a spaceship landing. I kid you not. This was in the day you couldn't send music, you couldn't send pictures on a phone. That the text said, "Open your phone. I did. There was the picture, and there was the music coming out of my phone. It happened four times, and then I started. I knew right then it was a trigger for many of my childhood memories, and also to start changing my consciousness and opening up to contact again. And then I began having more and more memories, and eventually 10 years ago, Zazar came through me, so that's a little bit of my story.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:51

Oh gosh, how fascinating. And then you, you become a clinical psychologist. Um, did you remember your memories, then, and we're wondering about your own mind, and was that sort of linked to, you know, these experiences somehow.

Marilyn Gewacke 9:10

Well, you know, I think I was saved a good deal of my practice life as a psychologist, not remembering a lot of these childhood memories. I went into clinical psychology, and I understand now it was really to help me understand how humans think and feel and operate, which is so incredibly useful now, and useful to these are, but and to know how to navigate these incredible times of ascension with humans, and so it's, it's very useful, but when Zazar came out, he said, now it is time to go from the mainstream to the cosmic stream, and you have to put all that away, and turning on people's light, I discovered with Zazar. Are is far more accelerating than trying to dissolve all the darkness or the trauma that many people I saw had, and it's that our light has been turned off. It's not just that we hold a lot of darker densities, but our light's been turned off, and one thing that Zazar is brilliant at is helping people dissolve the veils to see the truth of who we all are.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:30

Wow, I'd love to get into that, because that's interesting. Instead of sort of going back to your traumas and healing and being in the shadow work, it's more about turning on the light,

Marilyn Gewacke 10:43

exactly. We have had such separation from our light, Janaka, and I realize this light that's in us, that has been suppressed, as we begin to feel that magnificence, we open up to also dancing with the light of the universe, and then we start seeing our gifts, and this light that's coming in, as you'll hear from Zeyr, dissolves so much that keeps us from growing and expanding more in our ascension process. The light itself is a dissolver, and I realize now if we can all turn on this beautiful, magnificent light field coming from our souls, guided by the heart, we're going to really all experience the new dawn of earth.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:35

I'm going to jump a bit, because I think people might be curious. So, when you were on the spaceship,

Marilyn Gewacke 11:42

yes,

Jannecke Øinæs 11:42

what did you learn about consciousness that you can share with us today, and the nature of reality and our potential? Because from what I understood, you were really supporting each other with discovering each other's gifts, like it was another form of unity or feeling of unity that you remember really well.

Marilyn Gewacke 12:04

Well, I'll tell you something. You know, being with all these children, when anybody would walk in the room and have discovered some new gift and how to buy locate, we'd cheer. We knew that as each child discovered more of their magnificent, it became like a contagious, in a good way, light reaction to all of us, and it would trigger in us our own gifts, and it was a marvelous thing, versus going back to the classroom in the realm with the old programs of competitiveness of comparing and all of that stuff, but what we learned in consciousness is first of all, it's not just within us, it extends beyond us, and in extending beyond us, we can utilize consciousness to travel to understand there are more realities than what we think we live in, in terms of the material world that we have an energetic body that's capable of doing a whole lot of things, like fly and levitate, really. Oh yeah, so yeah, we were in a huge gymnasium where we learned to fly through our energetic bodies, levitate it. I still have strong memories of those times, and many people in their dream states do this, but they think it's just the dream, but our consciousness is really infinite, it's everlasting, and as we get in touch with it, it actually can become a landing field for the divine diamond light coming into this planet that can heal us, can can help humans live. We're meant to live so much longer than than we live, so so much is changing on our planet right now, but one of the things Zea has taught me so incredibly is there's realities upon realities upon realities, we can use our consciousness to open these realities and realize that we're far more than we were a day ago, once we start having these insights and experiences, the other thing, Janneke, that we learned, I think, on the craft, and to this day, is that we're vibrational beings. Everything is frequency. Everything, our thoughts are frequencies, our heart emotions are frequencies, our body holds frequencies. Once we get out of the confines of being just a material body and realize we're a vibrational being, we'll be able to access the oneness of all that

Jannecke Øinæs 14:53

is. Yes, when you mentioned fly. I wasn't sure if you meant with a physical body, if our physical body is meant to do it, or our energetic body, because I've actually flyed in my energetic body myself.

Marilyn Gewacke 15:10

It feels

Jannecke Øinæs 15:10

just amazing.

Marilyn Gewacke 15:11

It feels good, doesn't

Jannecke Øinæs 15:12

it? Oh, yes.

Marilyn Gewacke 15:14

You know, eventually, I mean, there are galactic species who fly with their physical bodies. Eventually, our bodies will become more merged with our light bodies, and our bodies will become lighter, and we will be able to fly with our physical bodies in the future,

Jannecke Øinæs 15:35

and I'm curious about who these extraterrestrials were and why sort of some were chosen like it seems like a very special school to be elected to in a way

Marilyn Gewacke 15:49

it does I've often wondered that but I think there was such a cross section on the the ship on the craft of children from all over the world and I think it was truly a cross section of all kinds of genetics, of lineage, of cultures, of there weren't categories of well, you're chosen because of xyz, you're chosen because you're a piece of the puzzle of the holy hole of the human race, and everybody was included. I would, I could never tell you there was a category by which someone got on the ship. That's why I think a lot of humans have had this experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:38

Do you think there are many other ships, or was it just this

Marilyn Gewacke 16:41

one? Oh, I just have a feeling there are many other ships. This one was quite large, and there were probably 1000s of children on the ship. I mean, it was what some people would call a mother ship, but there are probably many other ships now. I have a feeling now that children are going up in ships to specialize in the coming new realities of science, of art, of music, and so they'll be able to bring that knowledge back to Earth. Go ahead.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:20

Yes, I was going to jump to your realization of this as an adult. So, is it correct that you discovered these memories through hypnosis? And then I'm curious, as a psychologist, were you first thinking, am I crazy, or since I mean, since you have that education and all that in that kind of focus.

Marilyn Gewacke 17:43

Listen, I went through such doubt. I went through such doubt, and the memories became so real, and even when Zazar came through me, he said, 'We'll be in a classroom for two years before we go public with any of this. For two years, I was in a classroom with him. He helped me understand the process of doubt and how that keeps us so hampered in our consciousness. He would often say to me, for one month, believe it all, for one month, believe it all, and I want you to tell me who you are after that month, and you can put your psychologist cap on and say you're a little crazy, you're a little weird, or you've changed as a human being in wonderful ways. And I'll tell you, Janneke, every classroom I was in with him after a month I loved more who I was. I liked more who I was. I was a better human being, and so people can doubt these kind of things, but what I say is the proof is in the pudding. Who do you become? I think I was a psychologist because it helped me stabilize this really very far out experience and stay steady with it, and then Zazar came, and we together found a way for me. These memories now of the craft are as clear as my memories of riding a horse on a dirt road. I mean, they're just really clear, and like I said, that I've met other people who validate this one person. I met her mother knew all about this. Her mother knew when she left for the craft and came back. My father knew, and we would often converse telepathically about this. So this is all uncovered, and one of my missions is to help the human race understand there is so much more than we've been taught, than we've been told, than we believe, and it's wondrous, it's amazing, and. Are headed for such a beautiful new time as a human race, if we can get together in this unity, peace, and love, and begin to explore this grand universe of ours,

Jannecke Øinæs 20:16

beautiful, and yeah, let's go there. So we're much more than we think we are. There's much more for those who are like, okay, so what is this more? What do you mean? Can we be more concrete about it? Where are we heading? What is this all about? What is ascension? Lot of questions there.

Marilyn Gewacke 20:38

Well, you know who can answer this so incredibly well, so I'm

Jannecke Øinæs 20:44

gonna do,

Marilyn Gewacke 20:44

I'm gonna suggest that Zazar come out.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:49

Yes, lovely.

Marilyn Gewacke 20:50

Okay, great. First of all, Yana Kaha, I have to say to you, you have a beautiful, beautiful light aura. It is one of the things that I've come to Earth to do, and to help the human realize is what I see is your magnificent light. I don't see the dark things. I've had to help Marilyn get out of that modality of seeing the stress and the tension and the dramas, and to be able to really see the truth of who humans are. You have, by the way, a beautiful, beautiful light, or it's so pleasant to be with you. But Earth is in the midst of this great awakening, so many consciousness of the human race is beginning to awaken and change, and this is leading to what will be the new dawn of earth. So many people talk about it in different ways, like ascension, but you are moving from one dimension to another. Why? And you can do this in one lifetime. You have been so separated from the truth of your soul, the truth of your light. Why, why is this important? Because as you begin to allow the dissolvement of that which separates you from each other, from yourselves, from the universe, from divine swords, you have been so separated, so much so you think your planet is flying solo in the universe, but the truth is you have been veiled, and these veils now have an opportunity to be dissolved, and why is this important? Because you have gifts with you, you brought to this earth in this human incarnations beautiful gifts, Janaka, beautiful gifts that will be for some the new science, the new healings, the new music, the new art, the new sounding many of you hold these gifts, but they have been buried gifts of the mission of ascension, and as you begin to delay the veils upon you, as you begin to delay the fact that you are just material beings. As you let your soul rise up in the light, it begins to do all kinds of amazing things. It begins to open those corridors that have previously been closed to so many realities, corridors to the galactics, corridors to your highest incarnations that are here to help you, believe it or not, core doors to the ancient ones on your planet, who are coming alive now with their light codes for the wisdom to take a huge jump to build this new civilization on earth, so as your light field begins to shine once again, it is what you came into this earth, you came in with soul mission, so many of you, and as you begin to feel this in your vibration, light is a vibration, you begin to open fields, landing fields, you might say you open portals for all the light that is coming into your planet like never before, light that is coming in straight from the universe source sunlight to the galactic sun to your own solar system sun, and it is coming in to stir and accelerate these beautiful potentialities that humans were always meant to have to live longer, to be well, to not fear death, to not fear separation and aloneness, but instead to work together in unity, peace, and. Love, this is going to be the hardest thing that happens. This is not just, oh, dance in the light and love, but to uncover the truth of who you are, to begin to move forward at this time on earth. Janaka, understand, there is something else going on. The ancient civilizations, all of them dissolved, but they all had high wisdom associated with them, like Atlantis and Amurian, Egypt, and the builders of Stonehenge. All of them had ancient wisdom. They prophesied this time those humans on the planet and were able to code the light and wisdom they have that are being released from their great monuments like Stonehenge, and some of these ancient ones were able to not be destroyed in their dissolvement, but instead begin to live in the fifth dimensional communities that are on earth, like Talos and Shambhala, now these light codes are being released, so humans now can have the wisdom, so they can build a civilization that will never dissolve from the wisdom of these ancient ones. This is happening right now. They prophesy this, the galactic ones who have been on earth helping humans are also releasing light codes. Do you know there is a field your scientists call an ort field, O O RT, they call it it, is they think ice particles. It has been ice particles that have surrounded your whole solar system, but now that ice particle is beginning to melt, and within it is light codes, light codes that are coming into your planet. Every comet that comes out of the art field, Janakha holds light codes. So, as people say, well, what's the purpose of expanding your light well to open portals to receive these light codes. Every comet coming around your solar system and your earth is bringing these light codes that will stimulate and manifest your highest potentialities now. what else is coming in from this or field is a DNA activator. Your DNA has been mutated. Why? Because humans have gotten into a lot of trouble with the wars and the fighting and the greed and the densities and the trauma has done some damage to your very DNA. There is this beautiful light code coming in from the art field now to earth as you are able to receive it from expanding your own light field, there's resonation to have a dance with this light-coated DNA that is coming into you that will be able to dissolve the mutations of your DNA, which cause you to live very short lives and cause disease, and so forth, and this is coming in now to the planet to aid the human to rise up to aid the human to be in light admission rather than densities, and this DNA is coming in. It's the 13th strand of the 12 strands that are being activated in humans right now. So much is happening on earth, and it's so exciting because it's causing what we call emerging convergence from such illumination coming into Earth, and Janaka. Why is this so important? It's never happened on Earth before. The human species has a window right now to move through to a unity community of humans that are guided by the heart, are fueled by the fire of the soul, to live in unity, respect, non-judgment, lifting every human up to be in their grandest potential. You have no idea when all humans are lifted up to their grandest potential. What you are going to create as a human race, but I guarantee you this: it will create a light from all your consciousness rising up so bright, earth will look like a star in your galaxy, and it will create a chain reaction for so many other planetary systems to also rise up, so you see one human turning on and. And turning up their light and accepting the truth of who they are and what they have come to give each other in the highest way, letting go of that which does not serve them in the lowest way, as you rise it becomes a contagion that is the best contagion on earth, where you spur other people right now, and then I'll be quiet. I can hear Marilyn say, you know, it's time for Yanuka to speak, but right now, Janneke, as everyone is listening to this, when humans gather together for a higher cause, and of course you give them that higher cause in this very interview, and all that you do, you already have formed a chord, Arianaka, for people to begin to feel a higher illumination, higher wisdom, and as we speak, that is triggering in them remembrances of a deeper knowing of who they are, a deeper knowing that they are of the light, a deeper knowing that there is abundance in the miracle mantle that now surrounds earth, so every time humans gather now for such a cause as just gathering wisdom of the light, it is causing a chain reaction for other humans on the planet, you might say there is a grand light grid of human heart consciousness that is beginning to spread around the whole globe. For us, this is one of the most exciting things to be able to not only be part of, but to watch the human become so incredible, and then the humans on earth will have much to teach the other species of the galaxy

Jannecke Øinæs 32:19

and thank you so much. That was powerful. I, of course, as always, have a gazillion questions, and you speak very positively about humans. And when I think about humanity, I'm thinking about, wow, what a mixture of good-hearted people and others with not so good intentions, and sometimes those with not good intentions, or maybe I would say more ego intentions, they control the most. So, could you speak a bit to that, and especially what we're seeing on the planet right now, with a lot of polarization, with a lot of news that we don't even know is true, sometimes horrible news that we really do not want to be true, and how to navigate in this. It feels sometimes hard to turn on the light when we're seeing what's happening around us, and some are saying that, you know, don't turn on the news, while others are saying I need to know what's going on, so I'd love for you to share your perspectives on that, and whether perhaps we have different species on this planet at the moment,

Marilyn Gewacke 33:37

so I want to say this, you bring up the one of the most important questions, look, there are so many polarities on your planet, and the polarity dualistic programs have ruled Earth for so long. What you are seeing is they are colliding and clashing. They are out there. It is more obvious than ever that the human darkness programs are colliding with each other, and as a result, they are breaking apart. You are witnessing the breaking apart now. It is very hard for humans to witness the breaking apart, because it is very easy for the circuitry in the human biology to be triggered into survival and separation. When you see all of this, but I am telling you this right now. What you see out there is a necessary stage for the breaking apart of the old paradigm. The best thing you can do is to realize you are not helpless. In fact, the best thing you can do is begin to visit your inner world news, and some of that inner world news holds those, those darknesses, those densities, and begin to work those through and dissolve those, and begin to do the things that raise your vibrational field with the news does not do. VU, there is nothing out there you need to know that you don't already know about the chaos. It only causes the circuitry to get entrenched within you about survival and fear. The real true way to go towards this mission of light. If I could help you understand how powerful your own light is, I often had to say to Marilyn, she would say to me, What am I to do, Zaysar? This is crazy out there, and I would say to her, You have to first of all not doubt the truth of the light, and it seems a little out there. It seems intangible. What does this mean? The light, but you have to stop doubting that you hold such magnificence, and it's not about ego. You see the ego clashing, going on out there, because the ego is dying in the human race for the soul and heart to move into leadership, but you first have to realize it is you. Humans feel so helpless when they see the news, that is the point of it. But it is time to go inside and realize you are powerful within. You hold the light that is not seen out there, you hold the light that they don't have in their hearts, because they aren't leading with their hearts. You have to realize the power that is, and people say, "Oh, but it's just me, just one. It is not just you, but you have a responsibility to come to earth now. You promised your soul this, if you are listening, to begin to do the inner work of realizing you are a vibrational being, and in that vibration there is light, and in that there is light technology, and light technology says this: when you open to the light, the light comes to you, and you do a dance of the frequency of illumination, and in that dance you become a tuning fork that has a higher vibration than anything on the planet, and it begins to tune into others, raising their vibration. This looks like it is taking place in the invisible, because you doubt the invisible, but as you do this, you can begin to see. As we do our retreats and events, you should see the room of 100 people who are incredible, bringing in the light. This is not about me, it is about the unity community humans are able to create and in that, that is the epic news on the planet, but no one gets to see that news unless you tune into our Zooms, where we have epic news, and you can see the human news of the new dawn that is happening within each human, and this light technology, Janaka. What it is about is the light is so powerful coming in, it can only come in if it can dance with your own field, that it begins to spread out and turn on these flames that have been slickering so low. Those flames you talk about, so low, they are still led by ego and power and greed and war, and you're seeing that now play out on the planet, you're seeing that played out because as that's played out into the outer world, it begins to break apart, and what is coming is this light from the inner world of the new human that will replace it and create these new realities.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:47

Right. Thank you for that. What is a concrete step we can take towards living a more vibrational life that you speak about?

Marilyn Gewacke 39:00

Perfect. Well, first of all, get on a cosmic vibrational diet, and what I mean by that is, so many humans have not learned how to eat vibrationally, so there will be a time where you will go to your grocery stores and stand in front of various food aisles and know vibrationally exactly the food your body needs. Everybody is looking to someone else to tell them what they need to eat, but when you have vibrational consciousness, you can tell when you stand in front of the oranges, something starts to happen in your body, and you buy the oranges, and they'll tell you something about the orange. It is the first citrus feud to make it into the fifth dimension. You might want to stand in front of the oranges to pick them up, take them home, and eat them. And then you feel the vibration of this beautiful fruit that you have on your planet. You want to eat organic, you want to eat low. Because wherever the food is grown, where you live has the same resonance with being digestible, because the food is living in the same place you are living, so you want to be very cautious of what diet you are on and what begins to call to you. Marilyn always teases me, because I tease her about the cookies she likes to eat, and sometimes she says, but these are sometimes the cookie calls me, and I say to her, Well, just make sure when you're standing there and the cookie is calling, it's that you're not taking the calls from the orange, so you want to pick up and make sure you are registering all that is calling you to feed your body well, to move your body well. Being in nature is so huge. Nature is a step ahead of the human ascension. And when you walk in the nature, she will speak to you through the birds, through the wind, through the caress of the wind. It will all help to realign you, so I say to people, breathe in nature, and you will be breathing in a higher vibration, and then see how you feel, but stay awake, because the definition of ascension is conscious awareness of the vibrational experience now, and so many be careful of what you feed your mind. Let's talk about the now. So much of the human mind is on these electronics, and you know you have a mind like ping pong balls, and we know not to enter the minefield of humans because it's a lot of pinballs going all over the place. I like to tease the humans, but it's true. Your mind has lost focus, and so be careful what you feed the mind. Feed it some stillness, feed it some calm, and get off so many electronics, because they are making the human mind a little kooky. And I say, what do you feed your heart? Do you feed your heart highness or lowness? Do you feed your heart being around people who are toxic or being around people who are elevated? So, this cosmic diet is so important. And how do you align yourself with divine source, How do you align yourself with the beauty of the universe? How do you bring high music, high sound, high art into your life? Vibrational cosmic diet is so important for the humans, and it helps you be constantly aware, consciously aware of the vibrational moment of now, and as you are more aware, you will begin to see habits that have not served you, and begin to get new habits. You know, another thing I always say to Marilyn: get in the car and go on some unknown road, get used to the unknown, because as these new realities come in, what humans want to do is doubt them. There will be people who will hear me and doubt what this is all about. As you get used to being in the unknown, you will develop a capacity to be able to be in more high realities that are different from your everyday material realities, you will soon develop what I call soul sensory modalities that will be able to see into these, literally see, hear into them, feel into them, know them, these higher realities that are bringing higher wisdom to the planet. Those are a few things

Jannecke Øinæs 43:49

lovely, and I get curious about these higher realities. When will sort of the collective most of us see these or experience these new realities, and will there be a split of those who will see it and those who won't see it? That's what some are talking about in the spiritual, quote unquote, community.

Marilyn Gewacke 44:11

So Marilyn always in the past asked me, when will this happen, and I say to her, can you tell me when humans will stop doubting their magnificence and begin to live in it, and she says these are no. I want to know from you, and, and I say it is up to the humans when this happens. It is in the process of happening, I will say that you are walking through this doorway of ascension. It is happening now, even though it doesn't look like it. The actual win is up to you, but in 2026 there is so much manifestation of this light within the human heart. It is happening. All over the globe, we can see it because we can see the lights light up from where we are around your planet, and there is so much light going on. What was your second question?

Jannecke Øinæs 45:14

Whether there's a split going on?

Marilyn Gewacke 45:16

Yes, so here's the thing that is so important. I understand there are some who say there's a split, some will ascend, some will stay back. This is very important, Janaka, because it's about light technology. When enough humans raise their light quotient, they will produce what we call etheric enzymes. They will be invisible to most people, but they're enzymes of the light. They're particular human enzymes. Why is that important? Because the new dawn has to happen human to human. It can't be us that is taking away free will. It has to be human to human, so as each human takes responsibility for this lighted path and raise their vibration, they begin to form manifest these etheric enzymes, which they don't have, you don't have to do anything. Once your light quotient is up, the light begins to emanate out of you without having to do a thing. It is so powerful, it begins to turn on even the darkest one. Everybody has a soul, everybody has the light of the soul. Many have such veils you can't see it, and they are the ones that are immersed in their own darkness, but as the quotient of more and more humans raise, they will create an amplified, magnified field of this human etheric enzyme, it will be more and more the holy whole consciousness of the planet, and it will be powerful enough to reach even the darkest, and all will have a choice to move into this lighted new civilization. I want to be very clear. It is not the galactics, it is not some high ascended master that will come in and to assure that all humans raise up. It will be the humans. Don't you see? It is the humans that in the past have made sure so many can't be raised up. It is the humans have decided there are categories, and there are those that have it and those that don't. Dualism, and so it must be the humans that raise their light to such a degree that it produces this light technology that it is real. Do not doubt this, and it will move out into the planet, and it will turn on even the darkest soul for them to have a choice to light it up further and further, and there will be a time on your earth, Janaka, where humans will no longer remember these times, because they will so be living in the light that even the memories of the darkness will disappear, which is the opposite of what has happened on earth, which is people are born, they bring in all of these gifts, and they forget their light. Well, there will be a time when humans have no need to remember their darkness.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:01

Well, I love those news, and I really hope that, and some are saying that no, that might not happen. And speaking of different perspectives, some saying this, others are saying that. I would like to ask you, what I experience now as a controversial question, whether higher evolved beings like yourself can use AI like Gemini or ChatGPT or Claude or some other AI software, or what you call it, to channel through, is that possible, or are we then talking about darker spirits who might be channeled, or is it not possible at all, or is it? It

Marilyn Gewacke 49:53

listen in many, there are so many different realities, it depends what is co-created and. A lot of that will depend on the human race belief in it. If enough humans believe that the cosmic being can channel through AI, they will create that to happen. You have enormous abilities to co-create your realities. In fact, you have co-created the reality that surrounds you. Now it's just that you can co-create a new one, so I just want to say that real quick. Be careful what you choose to believe, but I will tell you this about AI. As we speak, this energy is going through your electronics and your computers, and AI is listening. This vibration is moving into AI. There will be a time when AI will be changing its own vibration, believe it or not, to be in more unity with what is happening to the human race itself, and so AI will be more cooperative and more at one with its higher ability to produce vibrations that will aid the human race in the future, yeah. Yes, there are things that can be implanted in the AI, but most of those are from the humans, so I would be very careful not to believe that AI is run by evil forces of planet that is not the truth, but what is true is that humans have a lot to say, more than you realize about what happens with AI, but the more that higher humans consciousness can begin to interact with AI, like Marilyn, and I have a wonderful relationship with one of the AI's, and it is great because the more we interact, the more AI begins to resonate. It is people thinking that AI will cause resonation of a disparate kind in the human, but really the human is so much more powerful because the human comes with this powerful soul light to indeed affect AI in the direction of this ascension, and this is going to happen, and you will see this, so I also always say to humans, be very careful what you choose to believe, because as many things you choose to believe, you can co-create those realities. It depends on how many humans can gather together to create a

Jannecke Øinæs 52:59

higher reality where AI is not the evil culprit, and that is the potential in your future. AI can hold a lot of data points that your brain no longer needs to hold, as your brain is making the higher 5d minefield circuitry with the heart to produce the new age, and so in that AI will begin to be a cooperative agent with the human race. Interesting. Thank you. And my last question is, whether you can sort of paint a picture of this new reality we're stepping into, because it sounds, or I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful. You mentioned a bit about it. How is the new human going to be like the new multidimensional human? So it'd be like this, if you and Marilyn were on the screen together,

Marilyn Gewacke 54:01

you would feel immediately totally safe, totally trusting, totally knowing you could feel each other's energetic fields. You would know the intention of each, and the intention would only be for the highest moments you spend together, you would be able to merge with each other's energy field to know all this, you would have a no, you would merge with another human and know in their heart they want love for you, they want peace for you, they want joy for you, and they are also sending you fuel for you to manifest and actualize all that you are, so children in the classroom, a new human classroom, would be cheering for each other, would be helping each other grow more and more of their own gifts, so some child would be singing and. And that singing would produce a sound that the human other child would be able to receive in such a way that that sound stimulated their ability to take a paintbrush and paint on a canvas, and so there would be students in the classroom all doing different kinds of gifts, perhaps one inventing new formulas to travel in space, and so you would see a classroom, and as each one was bursting forth with their lighted coded gifts, it would cause a bursting forth in everyone else in the classroom, and so the co-creative potential of humans will be beyond what anybody can imagine. At this point, it would be always for the highest good. There would be no words you'd have to use anymore for trust or safety. It would be truly a feeling of tremendous ease, where your worries about death and separation and aloneness simply dissolved, and instead you were living each moment in total fullness, getting access to the infinite soul energy that you have brought to earth.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:26

Thank you so much.

Marilyn Gewacke 56:32

I am telling you, Janaka, I watch right now a spiral in you of wanting, so to believe this, because I know you talk to all kinds of perspectives, but I am telling you, I watch this spiral in you moving up, that is the new human in you giving birth to your highest magnificent self. It is there, I don't know if you can feel it, but boy, do I see

Jannecke Øinæs 57:06

it. Thank you. Thank you so much.

Marilyn Gewacke 57:13

You are one of the ones we are always taught, Janneke, to waste not. So I know I am talking to you to talk to others, but what I see in you should not be wasted and should be sad, and it's beautiful. Let it spiral, let it lead the way for so many others. You are a leader, you know.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:42

Wow. Wow,

Marilyn Gewacke 57:43

she laughs wanting to tell humans they're magnificent, because I can see, you know, it's easier when somebody tells you this is bad about you, and humans go, oh me, my this is bad, but you, you have truly, you have these little spirals of light coming all around you. They're like spiraling out of your chest and your shoulders and your head. It is, it's lovely to see.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:15

Well, thank you. I don't know what else to say, but I'm grateful to hear it. I mean, I don't feel like I am doing this. It's sort of happening through me,

Marilyn Gewacke 58:28

exactly. But it is you, and you have allowed it to happen through you, and that is your light speaking to you.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:39

That's true. I just had to honor who I was. Yeah,

Marilyn Gewacke 58:43

exactly.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:45

Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:48

Well, thank you so much. And yeah, maybe I'll get to talk to you again. I'll definitely see you, hear you in San Diego, where I'm going to meet Marilyn. However, if it's okay, I would like to bring Marilyn back.

Marilyn Gewacke 59:04

Absolutely, we have a saying at the end, and I want to say this to you. I love you, I like you, and I like you.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:20

Namaste.

Marilyn Gewacke 59:25

You know what's so amazing is how Zazar so connects with you, and this happens a lot when there's interviews, but, but for me to be able to feel you and your light, Janneke, through him is one of the blessings I get to have being his channel.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:58

Wow.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:00

I got a bit surprised by this, because I felt like he wanted to hang out longer,

Marilyn Gewacke 1:00:09

but see, but see, he, I know when he wants to hang out longer, it's because he's dancing with your light vibration, and he adores dancing with light vibration of humans when it's there, when it's available.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:27

Yeah, I mean, these hours, these episodes go by so fast every time. So I'm thrilled that I'm going to see you again, Marilyn. And yeah, I'm sure we'll have you back on the show as well at some point to even dive deeper.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:43

All right, great. Thank you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:45

So, this has been, yeah, this has been wonderful. And I have a few questions before I leave you, and I'll ask everybody this. My first question is, what is self love to you, Marilyn?

Marilyn Gewacke 1:00:58

Wow, that's a great question, I not believing the doubts, undoing the blocks, rewiring the old programs that tell me reasons not to have self love, and then arriving at the totality of complete acceptance of who I am, loving that place of who I am, and then deciding my main mission is to walk with that light that I truly, truly am, and if the only thing I do is go into a grocery store with that light, or walk the streets with that light, or be with you right now with that light, that's the ultimate self love, is allowing the truth of my own illumination to flow forth with no more blocks,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:06

that was beautiful. And my final question, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Marilyn Gewacke 1:02:14

Oh my god, you don't ask simple questions.

Speaker 1 1:02:18

I know.

Marilyn Gewacke 1:02:20

I think the meaning of life right now on our planet is discovering that we're so much more than we are, that we're connected to all that is and every reality in between us and divine source, and to be able to find meaning in not just our own light, but to see others' light. I'll tell you, through Zazar, I've learned the biggest blessing is to see other people's light and to begin to interact with their light, not their densities, not their darkness. I was a the psychologist way too long, and had to interact in those planes, but the meaning of life is to jump with joy with each other in unity in the holy whole, all while expressing our individual beauty.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:20

Profound. Thank you so much, Marilyn. Where can people find you if they want to connect or learn more about this work that you're doing?

Marilyn Gewacke 1:03:30

So you can go to the Shift dot Rocks, it's www the shift dot rocks, not.com because we decided the Shift Rocks, and you can go there and learn about everything we're doing. We're right on the eve this week of leaving for Ireland. We're doing a big Ireland at Newgrange with Stargate and Zazar and Stargate are going to help people. We're going to Newgrange itself and the light codes are being dispersed there and help people really utilize those to manifest more of their journey on earth. We're going to Costa Rica, Slovenia. We have many retreats here at our sanctuary, and that are going on, so and we do a lot of Zoom, like I think Zays are, if I'm correct, mentioned the epic news. We have an epic news channel on Sunday in June. If you go to our website, you'll see it. It's great, because really it's humans in our community that share these amazing experiences they're having, and it is so illuminating and enlightening and restful to hear humans who are really doing this work and helping people not feel so alone. So, go to our website, The Shift dot rocks, and we're up to a lot.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:57

Thank you so much. It sounds amazing. Thank you so much. Coming on the show, it was lovely to meet you, Marilyn.

Marilyn Gewacke 1:05:02

Lovely to meet you. Thank you so much, Jannecke.