2026: The Galactic Reconnection Year! With Pam Gregory

Pam Gregory 0:00

It is an immensely exciting year, and I think we will look back from the future and say 2026 is the year it all began to change, and we are going to be reconnected to our galactic family, beginning this year in a much bigger way than we ever have as humanity. The one that's coming up quite soon is on the 20th of February, but it's going to happen at zero 44 of Aries. It hasn't happened since 4361 BC. This is incredibly exciting in terms of birthing a new order. We are going to see the accelerated collapse of the old order, but more green shoots of this new consciousness coming through as well. April. April is a massive month of new beginnings for people. I think we have eight orbiting bodies in Aries in April that is just off the map in terms of initiation, ignition, new beginnings. By the end of 2026 even by then, our world is going to look very different from how it looks now.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:16

Pam Gregory, a warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North show.

Pam Gregory 1:22

Yeah, delighted to be with you, Jannecke. We had a wonderful conversation last time, and I think it's going to be even richer this time because of the times we're in.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:30

Yes, we did. I loved it. And for those who are new to you, you are a world famous astrologer. You've been working with astrology for more than 45 years. You have a huge following on YouTube. You are a cosmic visionary and a best selling author, and I'm really excited to see where we're going and hearing about the planetary shifts and alignments coming up for the new year and the years ahead. However, I'll start by throwing it over to you. How do you feel our conversation today might expand people's consciousness.

Pam Gregory 2:04

Wow, that's a wonderful question. I think that is one of the major themes for humanity for 2026 so anything we can do to feed into that big theme, because the cosmic energies are helping us so much, the new light codes from the sun, our sun and the galactic center are extraordinary at this time. So there are cosmic winds. There are following cosmic winds to help us. So I think anything that we can talk about that is true to that is going to help people expand their consciousness and plug into that whole zeitgeist of where we're going as humanity. I think it is an immensely exciting year. And I think we will look back from the future and say 2026 is that is the year it all began to change.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:53

Oh my goodness. I can't wait to hear more about that. And before we dive deep, I would love to hear more about your perspective on astrology, because on your website, you're saying that you look at astrology as a sacred language for geometry of geek geometry. That gives us a bigger picture. And I love that, because then it's not about believing or not believing in a language, right? So could you share a little bit more about what you mean by that.

Pam Gregory 3:22

Yeah, thank you. Because when people say to me, Well, I don't believe in astrology, I will say, well, that's like saying you don't believe in French. It's because it's just a language. It's just a way of describing the world, our reality, humanity, how we move around in the in the cosmos, and I think it's truly sacred. And I I have a sense I do do client work any anymore, but whenever I'm working with astrology, even for my update videos, I have a sense of holding sacred space, and I think it's because for many 1000s of years. I mean, certainly we know about astrology and recorded history for the last 6000 years, but I believe it's been around for way, way longer than that. The ancient peoples very much lived in alignment with the cosmos. They didn't have televisions or computers or cinemas or the kind of entertainment, you know. They lived open to the skies, and were very observant of the skies, and therefore there's a sacredness about that, our connection with the cosmos, our interconnection with the cosmos, I think, is profound. And it was very interesting to me that, you know, the the pyramids across the world are aligned with particular constellations. If we look at the the pyramids in Egypt, they are aligned with the Belt of Orion. And their actual configuration, two large pyramids and one smaller one offset perfectly reflect the Belt of Orion in the heavens. And when Robert Edward Grant was doing, was leading a trip there. I think that was December 24 he just, and he's done. Wonderful videos on this, he discovered that there were zodiac signs kind of etched into the walls around the king's chamber. So the ancient builders of the Egyptian pyramids, whoever they were, I believe they're wailed and, you know, it's been described. I think that they are vastly older. They weren't leaving information for us in Chinese or Spanish or some indecipherable language they will leave, leaving it for us in the language of the stars, the language of astrology. And that was really beautiful to me, because it's demonstrating that sense of interconnection which the ancient peoples had so strongly. I believe in modern times we have lost, but we are now reconnecting to it, I think, in a bigger way, and that will happen more and more from this point on. I think people want to discover their reconnection to the earth, to Gaia, to ancient wisdom, to sacred traditions in a much bigger way, because I think in there's been a sense of in modern life, we've lost that to some degree.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:08

It's so interesting because I have the pyramids here on my notebook. I was going to ask about it, and then these are the times we find ourselves in. I feel there's so many synchronicities I think about something, and the guest is just answering my question. I don't have to, even soon, I don't have to speak. You can just, you know, answer

Pam Gregory 6:27

telepathy, telepathy.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:31

Now I've had some Vedic astrologers on as well. What from your perspective, is the difference between Vedic Astrology and the Western astrology?

Pam Gregory 6:42

Yeah, I could write a whole book on this, so I'll try and be as concise, concise as I can. All systems work because they are all a reflection of consciousness. The difference in measurement is about 24 degrees. The Vedic system, the sidereal zodiac is 24 degrees behind the Tropical Western Zodiac. And the sidereal zodiac that the Vedic astrologers use is anchored in the stars. The actual position in the stars the Tropical Western Zodiac is anchored in the solstices and the equinoxes and the seasons. So it is very, very anchored into those very key points when we move from spring to summer, summer to autumn, where the days either become longer and warmer or colder and shorter. And that's undeniable. You know, there's changes of seasons are absolutely undeniable, particularly if you live in any kind of northern or southern part of the part of the earth. But there are many other differences. Typically, Vedic astrology has only used the planets as far out as Saturn, because that is as far as they were able to see with the naked eye, and they haven't incorporated the more recently discovered plants, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto and particularly the dwarf planets, which have only been discovered around the turn of the century recently, Joni Patri who you may have interviewed. She's very active on YouTube. She's the only Vedic Astrologer I'm aware of, there may be others. She's the only one I'm aware of who is actually now beginning to incorporate, just in the last few years, Uranus Neptune Pluto into her work. But she's only using them in a collective sense, whereas for me, they are the most powerful indicator of individual life change you can find in a chart if you have Pluto Uranus, Neptune transits in your chart, massive life change, generally, particularly on the angles of the chart. And so also Vedic Astrology is said to be, I'm not a Vedic Astrologer. I'm a Western tropical so, you know, I haven't practiced Vedic people say that it is more predictive in a mundane sense, whereas Tropical Western Astrology is more to do with the psychology of individuals. Certainly it's more to do with the psychology of individuals, but I believe it's extremely accurate on prediction. However, having said that, I'm becoming more and I'm just speaking of my own personal practice, that there is a spectrum between predictability and being fated and deterministic and being a co creator. Yes, there's, there's a spectrum. You know, how big a role to each of us have as humanity, as individuals, on changing the reality and changing our future versus these things are fated and predestined. So increasingly, because I believe our reality is becoming much more fluid and malleable, I am much more at the co creation end. And I think it's going to be much harder. And again, I'm speaking for my individual practice, much harder, even for me as an astrologer, to give any kind of prediction about where we're going, because it's going to become so multi dimensional. We're going to be living on different dimensions. We're going to be you know that the the excitement in life is talking to our galactic family, or the trees or the elemental beings, and that's going to be very hard to pin down on a certain date you're going to be talking to an elf, because it's going to be multi dimensional. It so astrology is going to open up, in a way I can't explain right now in January 2026 about how it's going to work. But astrology is going to evolve very significantly. To start to take account of that multi dimensionality. It will become more galactic. It will become more expansive, in a way that I can't articulate at this point. So those are the big similarities and differences. You know, the geometry is the same that we're looking at, whether it's veadic or Western, and the archetypes are broadly the same. But they are those significant differences I've I've just mentioned, that make it different interesting.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:21

And speaking of our multi dimensionality that we hear about again and again, can that be explained also through astrology? Is that sort of reflected in astrology that you've learned about? It through astrology or through sort of other spiritual directions?

Pam Gregory 11:39

Yeah, great question, Jannecke. I think it's partly through the astrology in that every time Pluto has a 248 year orbit, and every time it goes it enters the sign of Aquarius, which it did fully in November 2024, and it will stay there till January 2044, so virtually 20 years, we go deeper and deeper into the cosmos. That's partly because our telescopes are better and stronger and bigger. It's partly because we are able to integrate more of the cosmos into our consciousness. So really it's, you know, all of this is an inside job. It is simply reflecting the expansion of our consciousness in an inner sense. But round about the turn of the century, dwarf planets began began to be discovered, and they are out in deep space, round about a 300 year orbit, most of them beyond the orbit of Pluto some of them, like Sedna, have an 11,400 year orbit, and the archetypes, the symbolism of the dwarf planets, starts to expand us beyond the kind of bread and butter planets that I've dealt with. You know, all all of this lifetime I've been in other lifetimes as an astrology but just sticking to this lifetime at the moment, otherwise, it's going to get too crazy. So they the dwarf planets, take us back, many of them in their symbolism, take us back to an ancient wisdom, a shamanic wisdom, ancient practices to connections to Lemuria and that sense of oneness with all living beings, that sense of interconnectedness, they also, in their symbolism, help us to understand how we create our reality using quantum physics. So they take us back to the ancient but also leading edge of in scientific understanding how we create our reality. So we start to get this going beyond the individual into a kind of soul group, humanity, consciousness, which is much bigger than the individual. And that starts to stretch astrology in in a bigger way that I haven't worked with, apart from the last few years and the more discoveries that are made, I believe that we will start to incorporate aspects of the cosmos that connect us more fully to multi dimensionality. But the second answer is absolutely the experiences which many people are having, myself included, are extraordinary in I mean, many people channel galactic beings, don't they? They've done that for years, whether it's Arcturians, palladians, Andromeda. You know, they're all over YouTube. That's very common, but it is becoming more common that people in their dreams are becoming more aware of connections to their galactic family, meetings, conversations, impulses, sort of instinctive direction that they have to take, and that's going to become bigger and bigger and bigger in 2026 so a big part of this is is not just us. Logical, it's energetic, it's cosmic, and it's energetic, and we are going to be reconnected to our galactic family, beginning this year, in a much bigger way than we ever have as humanity. That's starting to happen now. I mean, that's, I think, partly what three eye Atlas is about this incredible interstellar object which is traveling at massive speed through a fly by one time only, through our solar system, is still around. It's going to pass by Jupiter, finally, on the 16th of March, and then start to exit with its convoy of six comets accompanying it, and pretty much in alignment with our ecliptic within five degrees, which is also exactly the reflecting the inclination of the orbit of the moon to the ecliptic plane. I mean, that is just extraordinary. And people have had some very, very strong experiences with three i Atlas. People have been channeling three eye Atlas. I mean, it's just been absolutely extraordinary. So this isn't a rock, it's or a comet. I believe it's beyond that. It's, it's some kind of a very advanced consciousness, which I believe is helping to seed this greater sense of galactic connection for humanity that I believe will become even stronger in March when it does its final fly bypass Jupiter, which has to do with the future cosmic vision, expandedness, interconnectedness. So that's going to be amazing, I think. But it's already doing great stuff, I think. So it's that's part of the picture too. Incredible has arrived at this time when so many other things were converging around the Capricorn Solstice as a real tipping point, I believe, for humanity, of humanity's consciousness, I think we're now in a different league and in a different game in terms of the level of our consciousness. And it just amazing. It arrived at that time.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:02

Interesting. So many things I want to unpack there.

Pam Gregory 17:05

Sorry, that was a very long answer. Jannecke,

Jannecke Øinæs 17:07

no, no, I love it. Okay, let me go to the personal first, because you did mention it, but I haven't heard you talk about so much your personal experiences. Did you say that you've had some mystical experiences with galactic beings? And is that something you would like to share about.

Pam Gregory 17:24

Do you know People tell me all the time, all the people write to me. People tell me all the time that have very strong Aquarian energy, sorry, Arcturian energy, Arcturian energy and Syrian energy. They see blue light around me. They see blue orbs around me. I don't see that, but they all do, because there's a there's a kind of consensus of people who write to me. I had a very particular experience when three eye Atlas was closest to Venus, and it was, I think a lot of us are struggling with with difficult sleep at the moment, and I can either sleep forever or barely at all. So it's one of those no sleep nights. From 2am I was awake, and I was still very much awake at 5am and I started to get very hot, and then these very powerful waves of energy started to move up my back, so I wasn't solid anymore. I was just these big, waves of energy. And then the top half of my back, which is where I hold most of my tension, became a brilliant emerald green, and I could see it in my kind of third eye, brilliant emerald green. And then my third eye just popped into this kind of oily splodge of brilliant green paint, and with a silhouette of my body in the center, and the oily green paint started to move into a kind of mandala of beautiful shapes. And then suddenly I was spinning like a Sufi. That was my feeling. I was spinning like a Sufi, but the whole experience was brilliant emerald green. And at the time, three eye Atlas had a brilliant emerald green coma tail that has changed as we moved into, as it moved into the constellation of Leo, and it became gold, which, of course, the color of Leo, which is kind of so it's like a cosmic joke. But at the time, it was, it was moving through Virgo, and it was, it was brilliant emerald green. It was very visceral. It was pinpoint, clear, and I will remember that for the rest of my life. So something was, was going on, and people have written to me, giving me messages, personal messages to me from three i Atlas, wow, though I haven't experienced them. I've experienced them indirectly, through people writing to me, saying, I've been asked, you know, to pass this message on to you, right?

Jannecke Øinæs 19:51

But you still had your own experience there. I gotta say,

Pam Gregory 19:53

Yes, I did, and it was really visceral, physical. I. Don't know how many minutes it lasts. I you know, I didn't have a sense of time, but it was distinct and very powerful. And yeah, I'll remember it for the rest of my life.

Jannecke Øinæs 20:08

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Jannecke Øinæs 20:48

Yeah, when you have experienced something, you cannot not experience it like or not believe it, it's just there it has been. And then you know that, oh, there's so much more. So let's go there. What are the planetary alignments and shifts that are influencing humanity right now, this year and a bit onwards?

Pam Gregory 21:08

Wow, wow. Big, big, big, big. Okay, where do we start? Okay, so the one that's coming up quite soon is on the 20th of February, because this is, you know, very close indeed. And these two planets, Saturn and Neptune, come together reliably about every 36 years. The last time they came together was in 1989 and they they are very much about dissolving the old order. They're very connected to Russian history, actually, because if you go back in Russian history, there was a Saturn Neptune conjunction in 1917 which was the Russian Revolution. Another one in 1952 to 53 birth of Putin, death of Stalin. Another one in 1989 and that was in Capricorn, which is to do the sign that Saturn rules, which has to do with walls and borders and boundaries. That was the collapse of the Berlin Wall. I mean, it couldn't be more literal, November 1989 and that was the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union. So every time we have a Saturn Neptune conjunction, there is a redefinition of Russia in some way. So it's going to be very interesting this year with whatever happens with any peace deal. Who knows what's going to happen? I haven't looked into that closely, but what I do know reliably, if we go back, and I can go back even further than that, you know, to the 1800s there is always a redefinition of Russia in some way of territory, very often, okay, and certainly authority figures as well. So that's, you know, going to be fascinating to watch. So that happens very reliably every 36 years. It's very often to do with the dissolution Neptune of the old order Saturn. But this year, it's happening on the 20th of February, February. It's a one hit deal. Not going to happen again. It got very close last summer, northern hemisphere, but it's going to happen at zero 44 of Aries. It hasn't happened at zero of Aries since 4361 BC, want to credit my very good friend Heather Ensworth for finding that, in her research, hasn't happened at zero veares for almost 6000 years. So this is pure potentiality, the very first degree of the zodiac. And so this is incredibly exciting in terms of birthing a new order, a whole new civilization. I begin. I believe I begin. I believe that we are birthing the beginning of a new galactic society, and a galactic civilization starting in 2026 and so that's going to be very powerful around New Beginnings. That's going to be very powerful for people individually. So please everybody out there, particularly if you have anything between zero and two degrees of the cardinal signs, Aries, cancer, Libra, Capricorn, you are going to have a particularly strong sense of a new beginning. But it's for everybody actually. What new relationship, passion, home, job, geography, you know what's calling you. That could be really new. So that's one very big deal, and it will accelerate the collapse of the old order. Saturn is the old order. It will do many, many other things as well. It's going to be a reality check on lies and deceits. And you know, many, many truths are going to come to light in a pretty dramatic way. And that's going to start, I think, in February as well, and it's going to come in waves through this year. And so we are going to see the accelerated collapse of the old order, but more green shoots of this new kind. Consciousness coming through as well. So that's happening, and it's a big deal because it's so rare. Rarity gives potency. What we also have is very strong Uranian energy, and that's to do with the increased seismic activity, a lot of extreme weather and Earth events. I think they will continue through 2026 because Gaia is going through shedding millions of years of trauma and going through her own rebirth, and we're in symbiosis with with that. And so we have some real peak points with Uranus going through this year, if we look at three days before that, Saturn Neptune conjunction, we have a very powerful solar eclipse at 28 of Aquarius that is square to Uranus. I think that could be very eruptive, disruptive, shocking. Lot of truths coming to light could be big seismic activity, and it could be seismic, literally, with earthquakes, it could be seismic. Politically, financially, you know, a big, big truth coming to light, a big rattling of of the old order. A lot of disclosure. It's gonna be a lot of disclosure coming this year, because so much to talk about because we have a particular conjunction in 1993 which began the Disclosure Project of Dr Steven Greer. The next step in that configuration is happening this year, exact in July. In fact, we also have a very strong Uranus aspect in June. And I think that will be another wave of mass awakening, a massive one in July. And actually, if I just hop back to April, April is a massive month of new beginnings for people. I have, I have never, I don't think in my career, seen so many planets in Aries, if we incorporate Chiron and the dwarf planets, I think we have eight orbiting bodies in Aries in April. That is just off the map in terms of initiation, ignition, new beginnings. I think we're going to see a huge wave of cosmic energy coming in to the earth at that time and through this year. I'm sorry, this is going to be a terribly long answer.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:32

No, I love it. I'm so intrigued.

Pam Gregory 27:36

Dr David Clemens, who's a dear friend of mine, has talked about six or seven waves of kind of evolutionary energy coming into the earth in 2026 to awaken mankind. I don't know if the waves that he's anticipating and seeing correlate with the the probability peaks astrologically that I'm seeing, but I'm seeing some real peaks, February, March and April. You know, Aries Equinox, then massive lineup in in Aries in April, a big wave of energy that I think coming in June is very big. July is huge. So just to explain, July, we have a unique astrological configuration, which I don't believe has ever happened in history before, and no astrologer has found a time in history when this has occurred. So this is a Trine, 120 degree between Uranus and Pluto. And in the midpoint of that is Neptune, and it's, it's completely symmetrical, and it becomes perfectly symmetrical in July, round about the 18th to the 20th of July, exactly. But we're going to feel it, you know, right through the middle of this year. And so each of those planets is at four degrees of their sign, Pluto's at four degrees of Aquarius. Uranus is at four degrees of Gemini Neptune's at four degrees of Aries, you have perfect symmetry. And so if I look back to the seed points of you, the seed points of any aspect is when two plants came together in conjunction. Okay. So for instance, the last time that the Uranus Pluto conjunction happened was in 1965 1966 so that was a time which was, you know, the time of the hippies and, you know, strong wave of love and peace and living in community and protests against War and a lot of demonstrations to demand more equality in society, whether that was coming from women or the Black Power movement or gay, you know, gay people's rights, whatever, there was a greater demand for equality and people living together in peace and growing food together. So that was the seed. Point for what is now blossoming this year, particularly in the middle of the year, you also had a conjunction between Neptune and Pluto back. The seed point was 1981 to correction, 1891 to 1993 1891 to 1993 that was the birth of quantum physics, where Max Planck made the first association between matter and consciousness. That matter is derived from consciousness, but consciousness is primary. We have another step happening in that coming up this year as well. So we are going to discover a huge amount about the nature of consciousness and the nature of reality, partly because Uranus Pluto is in Aquarius and Uranus is in Gemini, reinforcing those themes huge about divinity, consciousness, how we create our reality, etc. You also had, let me just think what I've missed. You also had, yes, which I've mentioned before, a conjunction between Uranus and Neptune in 1993 as well as Dr Stephen Greer's Disclosure Project about galactic beings. You had the birth of the the internet, the World Wide Web. At that time, the internet becoming, you know, much more commonly used by the public. There's going to be another jump in all of that mass communications to a much higher level telepathy, coming in much more fully, you know, it's going to be massive. There's just going to be so many developments in new forms of transport. I think we could see anti gravity transport coming in. I think we could see flying cars. I think we could see more public transport, which has to do with magnetics, which is very quiet and clean and not I think South Korea is developing this at the moment, where the It's beautiful, they have these kind of trains that run above the ground, I the same level as the cherry blossom, and then they come down to pick up people, and then they go back, you know, to sort of tree level. And that's in development right now. And I believe it works on magnetics, you know, reversing the magnetic poles so the, you know, it can rise above the ground. So we're going to see incredible developments around free energy, using, I think using magnetism is going to become a much bigger deal by the end of 2026 even by then, our world is going to look very different from how it looks now. Society is going to look very different. And you know, that's incredible, because, in general, the life we've the lives we've lived, it's been pretty predictable. You know, you know where you're going to be at the end of a year, you're planning to go to college or buy how. You know, it's been pretty predictable. We're going to be making huge jumps this year, which are very accelerated compared to how we've lived our lives in the past. That was a very long answer. Jannecke, so I'll give you a chance to speak well.

Jannecke Øinæs 33:12

Thank you. I love listening to you. This is amazing to hear. I mean, this is incredible living right now. I mean, even though, in one way, or in one sense, there are chaos and struggles and wars, right? But in another sense, we're feeling a lot of us, things are shifting to the positive. And speaking of that, you have mentioned, there's been an increasing dimensional split, and I would love for you to share a bit about that, and also how we can align more with the higher dimensions.

Pam Gregory 33:45

Yeah, thank you. In fact, I had a fascinating conversation just last night with a chap called Paul Levy, who has been a Tibetan Buddhist or practice for over 30 years, plus he's deeply enmeshed in quantum physics, and he was putting the parallels of those together, and we had a long conversation about creating our reality. So yeah, I think it's sort of undeniable at the moment that if people's principal focus is the news, the war, the chaos, the big, scary things that are happening in the world, and there are awful things happening in the world, they're absolute horrors with war and hunger and deprivation and disease. I mean, it's just, you know, I can't believe in this day and age, we're still murdering people. It's just incomprehensible. But if you're living in that fearful state, that's the energy you're broadcasting, and it's just a frequency. And so the way that physics works, the physics of consciousness, means that by and this is just magnetic resonance, this isn't a judgment or superiority or anything like that. It's just you will all and so much work has been done on this, you know, with Heart Math, and you know many people, because you. Can actually measure your frequency with a magnetoencephalograph outside your head, so people know that it's broadcasting beyond the body that you automatically magnetize to you the frequency with which you are most aligned. Hence, if you're in fear, it's all a big, scary world, you know, gloom and doom. We're going to go to world war three. You are going to magnetize to you by magnetic resonance more big, scary things. That's just the way physics works, the physics of energy. However, if you can turn your focus to love and joy and peace and compassion, as I think more and more of us are, that's what you're broadcasting, and you will automatically, it's just, it's just a law of the universe. You will automatically attract more loving, more joyful, more compassionate and peaceful experiences into your life. And if you don't believe me, do it as an experiment. Do it for a month. Say I'm going to do this as a game, you know, that very difficult relationship, or friend or neighbor or boss, I'm going to do this as a game, and I'm going to practice sending them love and compassion and peace, and I'm not going to get all stirred up by that, you know, the accident that relationship. Just see how that relationship changes. Just do it for a month, because I think you will find that the dynamics of that relationship start to change. So it all comes from us. This is an inside job in what we are choosing to focus on and what we are choosing to broadcast and catch yourself. You know, I've often said, Put post it notes all over the house. Catch yourself. What's my focus? What am I thinking about? Where am I at? Am I feeling love and joy and peace? Am I, you know, thanking the sun for turning up that morning? Am I thanking the trees in my garden? Or am I thinking, you know, World War Three is around the corner? Which am I choosing? It's a choice.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:03

True and, yeah, I'm thinking about power right now. I've heard you speak about that there will be a shift of power. Because in one sense, we can feel a bit powerless, like I'm doing this work, I'm trying my best, but I don't see the change on on on the outside, like, not just in my my reality, but on a larger scale, what's going on in the world? I like, I really want to change the world. What can I do? So could you speak to that? Will there be a shift in power where people like us, not in a political position, will actually have more power to to do good in the world and to change the world in the way we really long to see a change.

Pam Gregory 37:50

100%. 100% and that's because I've looked back in historical cycles to the 1200s the 1500s the late 1700s I've looked back To every time Pluto was in Aquarius, and the message was always greater power to the people. Didn't come easily. Wasn't handed on a plate. But the the shift is always to do with greater equitability and decentralization away from top down centralized power. So whether you look back to the 1500s and the power of a very dominant church across the world, particularly in the West, or whether you look to the 1700s and I've talked about this a lot with the American Revolution, the French Revolution, you know, the French Revolution, when they stormed the Bastide, took down the monarchy. Monarch was beheaded, and that was the the end of the French monarchy in in in France and and within a very short time, the Declaration of the Rights of Man was written by the Assembly national in France that gave started to give legal rights to ordinary people. And France became a republic. It's no longer a monarchy. That was massive. I had a massive shift, I mean, and that was the development of a middle class and artists and businesses. They'd never been a middle class. There was just the, you know, the rulers and the ruled and massive inequality. So whenever you get huge inequality, as we have now, strong verticality, top down, we're in charge. We're telling you, peasants, ordinary people like you and me, what to do. Much stronger rebellious energy comes in, which is also Pluto in Aquarius. And it doesn't have to mean being on the street shouting with a placard. It doesn't have to mean that. It can literally mean a revolution of choice, a revolution of love. I'm going to energetically disengage from the system. I'm going to become self employed. I'm no longer going to shop at supermarkets. I'm going to shop for my local farmers or order my food from a farmers network. I'm going to energetically disengage as much as I can. From that centralized, top down system, you know, and we can do that to varying degrees individually, but in every moment of my day, I'm going, you know, for all of us listening to this, I am going to try and add more love, more joy, more peace, more caring and more compassion into the world, and that will appear to be invisible, helping a neighbor with her shopping, helping someone across the road, being kind to a friend. I walk my neighbor's dog every day because I love them to bits. But you know, it's an act of kindness. My neighbor active grounds for the job. Act of kindness for me, actually, because I love it. But you know, this is all very quiet. It's not loud. You're never going to see that on the nightly news. The stuff that is passing away could not be louder. It's shouting, it's dramatic, it's colorful. We've all got to be scared, so that's kind of in our faces. What is birthing is when we drop into stillness, when we meditate, when we drop into zero point, when we hug a tree. That's what's birthing. But as people come together, more and more people on the same frequency, and I find in my world, partly because I'm speaking to wonderful people like you, janika and you know all the people I talk to on the interviews and podcasts, we are all of the same mindset. We want to birth a more loving world. My local friends have changed a lot. They are now really saying, What can we do to build a more loving world? Can more of us come together? Do we have a builder and a carpenter and a gardener? You know, I have a local friend who has a large garden. She's given up a big chunk of her garden for half a dozen friends to have allotments and grow different vegetables. And they get together every week and they share vegetables and have coffee. And, you know, that's the that's an embryonic community forming. And these embryonic communities are happening already all over the world. They are going to become more and more widespread, but they're going to be quiet. They're not going to be above the radar. They're not going to be shouting. They're not going to publicize. This is happening everywhere, and it's palpable now. It's really visceral and palpable that this is happening. So that's how you can create a more loving world. Just decide to be more, you know, loving through your day. Does that make sense, Jannecke?

Jannecke Øinæs 42:32

yes, that does make a lot of sense. I've heard you speak about that the financial system will change, that the old system will, in fact, collapse. And I'm wondering, do you have any advice on things we can do differently in our everyday lives to prepare for this or sort of to brace for this change?

Pam Gregory 42:52

Yes. I mean, the short answer is, I don't know. And I'm you know, I'm not sure that the vast majority of us know, but what I do see in the astrology is because of the collapse of a top down controlling system. The financial system is part of that. In fact, all systems that we currently have, be they medical, educational, judicial, political, I think they're all going to change really radically over the next few years to something much more horizontal, much more grassroots based. So I do see that happening this year, and that may cause some temp, temporary disruption. I mean, just looking at the new moon and Capricorn coming up on the 18th of January. There's some very strong indications of that. For instance, if we look back to when Pluto entered Capricorn in 2008 we had the banking crisis within a short time of Pluto entering Capricorn. So we have very strong Capricorn energy around the end of this month. And it's very, you know, some very strong kind of collapsing energy because of disclosure in February. Another time that I think could be a big month is July, and then we get into the fall, September, October, and very strong financial changes there too. So, however, I do think, and I mentioned this in the last update, I do think there is an awful lot happening behind the scenes that we as the broad population are not aware of to bring in a new system which is much more equitable, not equal, but equitable. And I profoundly believe that now, what form that will take, I'm not sure, but I do believe there's a lot happening to make that happen, so we may have some temporary disruption, you know, that I can't really, you know. So. What I'd suggest? I mean, I'd suggest having some cash on hand, because people will always take cash for food, having an amount of cash on hand, and I just have some basic supplies of dried food, canned food, if you have canned food, make sure you have a manual tin open, just in case. You know, there are any power disruptions, I wouldn't go crazy, but this is the kind of preparation I would make with my parents for winter, because I lived in the north of England, and for about six, eight weeks every year, we got snowed in, and you couldn't get out to get supplies. So I would do that with joy, with joy, knowing that I was in a good place, and I'd have water, and I'd also have a water filtration method. You can just get very inexpensive camping bottles you can buy online for 1215, pounds, you know, about less than $20 that will filter enormous amounts of stream water, river water, any kind of water, they're basically for campers. But you know how cheap and easy is that I would do that just in case. You know, because our power grids are creaking there, and because we have so much heightened solar activity now, there is potential for power grid outages. They've already happened across a lot of Europe, in Spain, Portugal and France. Middle of last year we had these so I would just take some basic precautions to keep yourself very comfortable through any of that happening. I think there's going to be, you know, ways we're going to have free energy really coming online, certainly by the end of this year, but those are the simple precautions I'd take. I don't know what form it's going to take, but I do think it's going to be more equitable and more beneficial for humanity after some temporary disruption. So just cover yourself for the temporary disruption and you'll be absolutely fine. One other thing as well. And this may seem a kind of crazy thing to do, and I'm not talking about any kind of dodgy agendas here, but as tight as the years go on, you know, the next few years, I think, because we're we'll be living more in collaboration and community. We'll be supporting each other. More money will matter less. I think we've regarded money as a survival mechanism. I've got to have a lot of money in my bank account to buy food and pay the bills and survive, because the world's a big, scary place. I think so much of that is going to change. So we won't be so concerned about that, because we'll be, we'll be sharing much more, and it will just not be such a big deal for a survival mechanism as it has been in the past, for a very good reason, not for not for a bad reason.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:50

Oh, that's wonderful news. Really, really wonderful news. My gosh, I'd love to hear a bit more about disclosure and how you see that's happening. Will it be sort of all over the news, we'll all know about our connection with the star beings. Or will it be more, on an individual level, a greater awareness of our connection to the universe?

Pam Gregory 48:13

Yeah, thank you. I think it will change by individual and that's absolutely fine. We're on our individual cell journey, so there's no comparison. Or, gosh, Mary, down the road has just had this conversation with a galactic being, and I haven't, so I'm way behind. You know, run your own race with this so, but I think it will become more and more commonplace for us to have dreams where we have these galactic interactions, and more and more and more people will be channeling galactic beings. It's, it's happening all over YouTube. As I, as I mentioned in your you're very well aware as well Yannick, and I think it will just become a more common thing. I mean, listen to my good friend David Clements, who's who you know channels galactic beings. And you know, he, he, he can time travel to and bilocate to the spaceships and actually experience being with them is just, my God, in a very ordinary, matter of fact way. He's very humble. He's a wonderful man. He's very, very humble. And there are many people out there who are having these experiences. And so I think it will happen to varying degrees, but it will become more commonplace that people are talking about galactic interactions and galactic news. I mean even the fact you asked me that question, nobody would have asked me that question. I think even three or four years ago, nobody would have asked me that question, but it's becoming part of the common parlance now I think three i Atlas is just the beginning of interstellar visitors. I think we will see many to follow of either comets or. You know, this is a vast being, whatever it is about the size of Manhattan, I understand. And I think more beings craft, whatever you want to call it, rocks, whatever, are going to come into our solar system. And I think they are seeding new information. Comets always do that, and that's a scientific fact, they bring new information, new bacteria, new forms of plant life from other galaxies, because they've come a very long way. Three I Atlas is going to do that in a bigger way, because it's been flying for who knows how long, millions of years, possibly billions of years, from way beyond our solar system. So inevitably, it's going to be seeding new information that's going to fall on the earth and and humanity, and I think that can leapfrog us into this, this different consciousness. And I'm becoming aware that people I'm in contact with who were very normal people watching the news every night are suddenly having epiphanies of conversations with the galactic being, and it's blowing them away, and I don't say, and it's a massive jump in consciousness, and they're asking to speak to me. And you know, I'm not sure I'm the best person to speak to on this, but it will be happening to different degrees, but it will be in communities and the common parlance much more frequently than it has been to date. I can certainly say that, and it will be wonderful. You know, that's where we came from. We Came From the Stars. You know, we have iron in our blood. We have calcium in our bones that came from the stars. That's, you know, non, non, debatable. No, it's gonna be wonderful. And also, if you get into conversation, contact community with other people on this wavelength who want to make a, you know, give birth to all loving New Earth, whatever form that takes. And remember, that's an embodied quality. It's not an out there or a place, it's a frequency that you embody. You start to get this sense of momentum. Boy, is this building, you know, this is like a a movement, a movement, and it's like a tsunami of love for this much more loving worth that we're creating. Because the more people you're in contact with that are all from their perspective, their lens, saying the same thing. You think, Wow. I mean, I absolutely know this is unstoppable. I mean, so many people more gifted than I am are saying this is now unstoppable. The energy is so strong in that direction, and the energy is collapsing under the old world. I mean, this is just non debatable anymore. It's unstoppable. And the more that humanity, the more humans that can join that vision of a loving New Earth, the faster it's going to start to become a very obvious reality for us, a consensus reality.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:01

Wow, that was powerful. Pam, I have a few questions I ask everyone, and my first question is, what is self love to you?

Pam Gregory 53:12

I think it's total acceptance. I think it's total acceptance. I think many of us have been taught because, you know, the whole paradigm is winner, loser, comparison, sales targets, business goals, that actually is just self acceptance of who you are and where you are. Because I think we are all in the place that we are meant to be right now in this massive wave of change. So, yeah, self acceptance, I think.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:44

beautiful. And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Pam Gregory 53:49

How can I be of loving service to humanity in the greatest way.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:55

lovely. And now, if people want to connect with you Pam, or learn more from you, they can obviously go to your YouTube channel, but where else can they find you?

Pam Gregory 54:03

Yeah, I mean, that's the main way I have to say, Jannecke, you know, you said at the beginning, I'm putting up so many videos, you know, it's just very, very busy and very full. At the moment, I decided to, for the moment, for this year and next to stop any writing. I was doing a lot of writing, but it takes much longer and gets to a smaller audience. So I'm throwing all of my energy into my YouTube channel. That's Pam Gregory official, any other YouTube channel is a scammer. So if you go there, you can see it's very busy. It's very active, interviewing different kinds of people. And yeah, that that's the place to go to to follow my work. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:41

Thank you so much. Thank you so much for your service to the world, your amazing work, and for coming to the show today.

Pam Gregory 54:47

Jannecke, thank you for all you're doing in the world. You know you're doing some amazing work interviewing such a diverse number of people, and you really are in bigger service for humanity as well. So God bless you. Thank you. So much. Thank you.