Astrology Reveals The Great Compression of Change! With Steve Judd

Steve Judd 0:00

The planetary places in the sky at the moment represent the biggest period of concentrated and compressed change that I've been able to trace back for at least 12 and a half 1000 years. The actual moment of this is around February, March, April of next year. We're faced with either now dystopia or utopia. It's what I call breakthrough or breakdown. The future's in the imagination, but the collective imagination is going to bring us into a much more unified world. I don't believe in God, okay? I don't do religion. Religion is based on guilt. If astrology were taught in schools within two generations, we would see an end to warfare, violence, misogyny, racism and the differences between people. I've been going in crop circles since 1989. I've seen crop circles happen my own eyes.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03

Steve Judd, a warm welcome to the Wisdom From North show.

Steve Judd 1:08

Hello and to my friends, Hello World.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13

I'm excited to get to know you and you work with astrology today, because you have over 45 years of experience as a professional astrologer. You've done over 40,000 horoscope readings, and you're also a researcher within crop circles, and we might tap into that as well, but before we do and before we dive into everything around the shift of consciousness, I'd love to learn how you got into astrology in the first place. And I thought it was interesting because I heard in another video that you spoke about how you were quite sensitive, and I interpret that as having psychic abilities, but you actually asked the upstairs to tune or tone them down, to shut them off. Yes, I'd love to hear that story.

Steve Judd 2:01

I got into a I was I was in I joined the army when I was 15. Okay, it was the only way you could leave home in the UK was to join the army when you were 15. So the army quickly worked out I wasn't very good at killing people or driving tanks, so they run some intelligence tests on me and found out I was very good with pattern recognition when I left the Army in 1975 late 75 I did. I hit the hippie trail for a couple of years, and then in 1977 someone gave me an Ephemeris, which is a timetable, like a bus timetable or a train timetable, of planets places. And I just looked at the numbers going down and across, and I thought, Ah, there's patterns there. And those patterns are changing all the time. Oh, I can read this. And then I realized that it was basically astrology I was looking at. So I did my first horoscope in 1980 and I did my first horoscope correctly in 1981 once I found out about time changes, time zones. And yes, I have spent 45 years doing readings, but these days I don't do so many readings because I'm so busy writing books, doing conferences and doing documentaries. But, you know, I'm 70 now, and the thing is, what happened was I was living in the north of Scotland, this would be about 1992 1993 and I was living in one of those houses that was built out of granite and lots of white quartz, because there's a lot of white quartz up in the north of Scotland. And I was living with two older female friends, witches, basically techno witches, and they were encouraging me to develop my abilities, and they were especially encouraging me to bring through what they called automatic writing, where I would put a blindfold on and go into some type of trance, and I'd just write. And it was fine for a few weeks, but then I started getting uncomfortable with it, and I started waking up with third degree burns on the tips of my nose and my ears, my fingertips, the tips of my toes. And I thought, This is too much. I can't do this. It's too much energy. So I went up the local mountain and spoke to the local God, Kunos, the horned God, and said, Look, turn it down. I can't do this anymore. I don't want to do this. And they said, Are you sure you want to turn it down? And I said, Yes. And so they turned down my psychic sensitivity. And since that time, I do not consider myself psychic or intuitive, which has two different effects, both very positive. One is that I can. Now go into the dark and pull people out, and nothing sticks to me because I don't feel it. And secondly, I have learned now that my intuition and to a certain extent, my feelings and thoughts have all become superficial. It means I can engage with my animal instinct at a much deeper level, I am very comfortable about going out into the forest and howling at the moon in the three o'clock in the morning, or going and burying my feet in the ground, or go walking into the water on a beach with no clothes on and just screaming in the middle of the night. Animal Instinct. It is. It's not shamanic in that there is a routine or an order. I just go wild. And I love my instinct. I love the animal side of my nature. It engages with the stars and the planets, and then I come back and I logicalise it, and I think it, and I feel it, but to actually practice that is amazing,

Jannecke Øinæs 6:06

interesting.

Steve Judd 6:07

That makes sense.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:09

Yes, it seemed like you had a real connection, or you just said that you spoke to a God, and the God spoke back and said, Are you sure was that a voice you heard?

Steve Judd 6:22

Yes, fascinating voice was in my head, but it was very clear. It wasn't. It wasn't a different part of my brain engaging with another part. It was, it was something from outside of my own consciousness. So now I don't believe in God, okay? I don't do religion. To me, astrology is a she not an itch, because people don't find astrology. Astrology finds people, and if she found you, then you must have something worth saving and working with. And because I realized that astrology is has has life, a life force of its own, it's made me realize that there is no such thing as death. It is just a transition of consciousness. The way we die can be sometimes difficult, but the journey to the next dimension, I'm I'm not in a rush, I'm not in a hurry, but I'm actually really looking forward to it, because I know that when I get there, there'll be a big party waiting for me, and all my friends will be there, both from this lifetime and elsewhere, because I don't do reincarnation, and there'll be a much bigger overview.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:55

Can I just jump in? You said I don't do reincarnation, that got me intrigued, is that something you know that is in your soul plan, is that a decision we can make here now that we don't want to reincarnate Yannick?

Steve Judd 8:17

There are more people alive on this planet now than there have been in the whole of history put together. When I was born, there were 2 billion people on this planet. There's now eight plus. So there's not enough lives to go around. Okay? And reincarnation comes from the Hindu from the Indian subcontinent, whereas, if you suffer enough in this lifetime, maybe you'll have a better life next time. And to me, this is just another religious guilt trip. When you give up, when you abandon the idea of death, then reincarnation falls aside. You don't die, you never die. The soul is eternal. So there's no good life or bad life. There's no past life or future life. It is eternal. Yes, the body dies, but this is just a three dimensional construct. It is the uniform of a suit I am wearing whilst I am at the bottom of this huge gravity well that is fit for this planet at this moment in history, when my body dies, My soul will evolve, accelerate and grow into another form of existence. And I'm, as I say, I'm not in a hurry. I have things to do, but when it happens, I will welcome it. I will go happily into that light. So no, there is no to me. There is no life before death, life before life or life after death. It is all one, just one eternal chain. I have no memory of being here before. I have trace, trace memories, my new little, little glimpses. Of working in being in a concentration camp or being a monk in a forest 1000 years ago. But maybe I read this in a book. I don't know. It's just a get. It's just a religious thing. It's a guilt trip. Reincarnation, if you, if you work hard this time, you'll have a better life next time. But you know that's that's guilt. Religion is based on guilt. You know this is you've been a bad person. You're not thinking, right? You shouldn't swear. You shouldn't be nasty to people. You've got to have a good life, otherwise you'll burn in hell for eternity. Oh, but God loves you, really. Come on. I despise most of the churches. I know some beautiful priests and priestesses who have a wonderful relationship with Spirit and with the divine, and I have nothing but admiration and love for them, because they are truly beautiful souls who believe in what they're doing, and they choose to practice within the structure of a religion, of a church, but they are, they still have their own relationship with the divine, as do I. I have a great relationship with spirit. I don't call it God or Buddha or Allah. I call it the upstairs department, you know. So I love that, and I can talk to and they talk back to me. Sometimes I have to give them a good kicking, because they don't realize how difficult it is down here at this time. So you know, you've got to sometimes you we're on the we're on, we're the front line, if you like. The same thing tells me that birth is not random. We volunteered for this, our mission step. The horoscope shows our mission statement. It shows the reason why you volunteered to come to planet earth in the first place, what your purpose is. But the condition is that when you are born, you forget, so you spend the rest of your life trying to remember, why the hell did I volunteer to come here? I mean, some people go, this is hell on earth. Okay, yeah, but it is still a beautiful world. There is still beauty and love in the world. I mean, I'm diving head first here into this. So I hope you're okay with this. But yes, I am. When I was born, there was 2 billion people, 2.1 and now there's 8.3 technology was a little plastic or Baker, like telephone on a wall with a dial that you rang a number, and someone like the other room would put a jack plug in a machine to connect you with someone, and now we're stream. I'm streaming across the world. When I was born, spirituality was being forced to go to Sunday school and to bow to a priest. Now we have 1000 different pick and mix, philosophies, religions, population, technology and spirituality, are on an accelerating graph, curve. It's not straight line, linear. It's accelerating. It's curved. And we're now approaching prime vertical. And once you hit prime vertical, you either collapse in on yourself and go back the other way, which has perhaps happened before, or you go outside the parameters of the graph. You break free of the graph, and that means keeping our bodies, keeping our identity and our individuality, but expanding our consciousness, becoming more empathic, more telepathic, more intuitive, more sensitive, more receptive to what's happening in the planet. In my ideal world, there would be no national borders. People would know each other by their moon signs, rather than their nationalities. There will be no money, there just an exchange of goods to keep things going, we'd be one unified species. But that's as idealism, and it's that there are a number of reasons why this can't happen, and most of them are because of greed and power. But it is through conversations like this, but slowly, slowly, slowly and getting faster, the rise of consciousness is unstoppable, right?

Jannecke Øinæs 14:54

And speaking of that, I've heard you say that the events of the next 18 to 24 months are going to determine the long term future for humanity, and that's now

Steve Judd 15:09

all of my life, ever since I've picked up my first Ephemeris, right? Just millions and millions of positions of planetary places for every day, for every month, for every year. I started looking at the patterns. And from the mid, early 1980s I started looking ahead. And thought, wow, look at 2024 to 2027 Wow, oh, I don't have to worry about that. I'll be old by then. Now here we are, and I'm 70, still going clubbing, still dancing, and it's the most exciting time and the scariest time of my life, wow, and the planetary places in the sky at the moment. It represent the biggest period of concentrated and compressed change that I've been able to trace back for at least 12 and a half 1000 years. This period will come to an end no later than early 1928, at the latest. And the crunch point, the nexus point, if you like, it's like being at the fine end of a pencil sharpener. If I were a woman, I'd be talking about the birth canal. Because it's that moment, that little, little point that we have to break through into glory. From my astrological perspective, I think the actual moment of this is around March, February, March, April of next year. But this is like a seeding. This is when the seed will germinate, and then it may take another year, possibly two, to grow. And the future is not certain. The Planets impel, they don't compel, but we're faced with either now dystopia or utopia. It's what I call breakthrough or breakdown. And in one way of looking at it, within 20 years, there'll be four or five different internets, one for each continent, all owned by one or two people who will have 99% of the money, all the power, and the whole place will be soulless, and that will lead to extinction of the species within 300 years. The alternative is the end of the old dinosaurs, the end of the insane greed. I have no problem with rich people making money, but when a company, when the boss or CEO of a company makes a 1000s times more than the people who clean his offices, something, I don't mind him making 10 times more, even 20 times more, but 1000 times more, he's going to end up being the richest corpse in the graveyard. You know, they won't have any money. We can't have that much fun spending all that money. So I almost feel sorry for them, almost. So, yeah, I mean, I've been waiting all my life for this time, and I find my own life now, just by speaking my truth, and because of my experience, I find that I'm able to help people see things in a different way to that which they've been used to. I'm not a cult leader, I'm not a guru, I'm an astrologer. I have my own perspective. I'm not out to influence anyone. But I want this planet to evolve. I want it to reach out and to emerge into some type of pan galactic relationship. I know later on we will talk about crop circles. But so many people I've been going in crop circles since 1989 I've been in 400 for damn things, 500 and I know where they don't come from, they don't come from space, they don't come from the ground. They're not made by humans, and they're not made by animals. So what does that leave? I know how the molecular structure of the wheat is changed. I know that it's caused by very. High frequency sound. But where? Where do the makers of the croc circles come from? The only explanation is that they are indigenous to our planet, but living in a different space time continuum to us, outside of our capacity for conscious perception. It's like, just there you've got fairy, and just there you've got pixie and troll. Just there you've got Valhalla, and here you've got crop circle maker. But we can't see it or think about it. We can sense it. We are screwing up their planet so they are trying, because they are an energy field that is based with love, not anger, but love. They are doing their very best to accelerate our evolution by sending these absolutely millimeter, precise patterns of incredibly technical geometry and symbols of love and beauty, in a way that's reaching a lot of people who go, Oh, I know what they Oh, oh, oh, no, I'm making it up. No, I'm not. Yeah, I do know what that is that's beautiful, but I can't find the words and it's, hitting us there. It's an upgrade. See, this sounds crazy to many people. I would understand if a lot of people watching this would go, he's crazy, he's off his head. But this is my life. This is how I live my life. And I'm not here to heal anyone. I have no time for healers. You heal someone, they just get addicted to you. I want to catalyze people. I want to empower people to be to become more empowered themselves, because then they can empower others, and then the world becomes a better place, but I don't want people coming to me for salvation or help or healing, because then they just get addicted to me and I can't get rid of them, and I'm just like, go, Well, I have got a life. I'm not just here for you. I'll help you. I'll help you. Do it for yourself, but I won't do it for you. So yeah, it's my own perspective. It's my one planet, 8 billion different worlds. True. We are all responsible for the way we see the world as being

Jannecke Øinæs 22:33

speaking of crop circles, since we went there, why do you think they are? Their appearance is decreasing? Because I would assume that, since we're moving into these important times, like you just mentioned a few minutes ago, this crucial time, why wouldn't we see more of them? Have you thought about that

Steve Judd 22:55

A lot! I don't know the answer, but I can only presume to guess crop circles were happening in the 1500s we have records of crop circles from the 1500s we know, I know that crop circles were also happening in the 1810s and 1820s in England, I have seen Photos of small crop circles from the 1920s and 1930s it is only since the early 1990s that we see the rapid evolution and the fractals, the Eclipse patterns, the geometry geometric patterns, all happening in Crop Circles only in the last 30 to 35 years, and now they are slowing down rapidly. 15 years ago, we were getting 80 crop circles a year. Now we're getting 10. They're fading away again. But I think they've done their job, those people who have recognized them, who are working with them, are looking at them and go, oh yeah, I know what that is. Oh no, no, no, I forgot it. I don't know what I'm talking about. Yes, it stays with you. The upgrade has happened, is happening. And when I think about how technology, spirituality and population has escalated. At the same time we have a global interest in astrology. Crop circles are happening, and now we have three eye Atlas and various other intergalactic things happening. It seems that so much is happening in such a short space of time. To quote, I don't, I'm, I'm from the punk generation, right? I was 714, 15, when the Beatles split up, and I was 20 when the Sex Pistols and the Ramones happened. Right? So I was just there. I was just a bit too old to be a punk, but it didn't stop me. And one of the punk ethos was No More Heroes, but one of the heroes I don't have was an anthropologist called Terence McKenna, and he said that human history represents such a radical break to the systems of biological organization that preceded it, but it must be the response to some type of attractor or dwell point that lies ahead in the temporal dimensions. There is a magnet ahead of us, pulling us forward, accelerating our spiritual evolution, pulling us home to where we can unite with other forms of life and consciousness that is waiting for us. And of course, I might be making all this up, and I'm actually crazy, but I'm having a great time living it. So you know,

Jannecke Øinæs 26:02

hey guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes. And my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so. Thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below, and now let's go back to the episode. Do you think there are man made crop circles as well?

Steve Judd 26:47

There are so anywhere between two to 5% of them are man made. All right, very few.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:57

And why so many in England? Have you thought about that,

Steve Judd 27:01

I have about 80% 75% of the crop circles in the world happen in England. Of that, most of them, half the crop circles in the world happen in Central, Southern England. Now, I've seen crop circles happen in my own eyes.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:29

You've seen them been created.

Steve Judd 27:32

I have seen I'll give you two examples. I have stood on the side of a road looking at a field about half a mile away, and I am level with it, and I can see the wheat going like really. And we rush there 10 minutes, 15 minutes to get there, walking through the fields. New crop circle. Also, there are some fields that get crop circles every year, one of them, Alton Barnes. We're on a big hill overlooking a big field, and the other side of the field is another hill, golden ball Hill, called because it's so because it gets lots of golden ball lightning, and there's people on there, friends of mine. We're waving at each other, and we're there all night. Nothing happens. No crop circles Dawn, nothing. And then the mist comes in for 25 minutes, and I can see over the mist and see my friends on the other Hill. 25 minutes later, the mist goes away, and there in the field is a 10,000 square meter crop circle in the shape of a snail, perfect. And it happened in 25 minutes, under the cloud. And nothing flew in, nothing came from above, nothing came from below. No one went in the field. And the biggest crop circle is about 40,000 square meters, 200 meters by 200 meters, that's the biggest one. And you know this happens. These happen in about seven or eight seconds. This, it takes a leap outside of what we understand to be scientifically real. To get this, I don't expect people to believe me, but do the research. There's so many case stories out there. There's even footage on YouTube of crop circles happening.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:39

So why do you think there's so much resistance to embracing this as part of our reality that these may appear by themselves by some force or energy? I've been curious about that myself. Why do don't science go there to embrace that as just part of our lives,

Steve Judd 30:06

because there is no logical or scientific explanation. It is outside of the bounds of possibility for these things to be real. For my master's degree, on my dissertation, for my master's idea of dissertation on the sociology of the crop circle community, and I interviewed the minister in parliament in government, the Minister of Agriculture, Food and fisheries, and I said, What is the official government position on crop circles? And he refused to answer me. And I said, No, I am an accredited student at a university. I demand an answer. I'm entitled to an answer. So he wrote back to me after two weeks, and said, crop circles are caused by unusual wind patterns in the south of England. Story they don't know, or if they do know, they don't want to know, because the reality is that the empowering force behind the crop circles will contradict most of the power structures that are currently disempowering people in our lands, they cannot explain it or rationalize it. So they ignore it. They pretend it is drunk people making it. They belittle it because they can't understand it, and they hope it will go away.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:38

We've had quantum physics for 100 years, which we cannot explain how the particles behave and spooky action at a distance that Einstein spoke about, they cannot explain that either, it's a mystery.

Steve Judd 31:56

No one of the first non circular crop circles back in 1986 87 was a perfect Mandelbrot set in a field right outside Cambridge University, where Niels Bohr and Rutherford worked on quantum so you know, the crop circle makers have a good sense of humor. They know our history, so I hope we never find out. The beautiful thing is we have very few mysteries left in this world. It is enough for me to marvel at the beauty, the geometry and the love in these patterns. I do not need to know how or why. I love mystery. It is not the end of the road. It is not the destination. It is the journey where you learn things. To me crop circle. When I look at a field, when I'm driving along and I see a big field, it is like looking at a blank canvas. You know, it's like an empty white sheet. Where's the crop circle? So? But, yeah, they pretend it isn't happening because they don't understand it, which is the same reason why astrology has been called, Oh, you don't believe in that old rubbish, do you? And I've had that all my life. I still get it, and now I just smile at them. I used to not get angry, but I used to delight in proving them wrong, and now I just smile at them, because what's the point? You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You either have to learn. You have to find out about it yourself, if you're forced into it, it doesn't work.

Jannecke Øinæs 33:57

Let's look at astrology from an individual level, how destined would you think? Would you say our destiny is, and how does it play or dance with free will?

Steve Judd 34:15

There is a way when you look at the birth chart, when you look at any individual birth chart. If the majority of planets are on the left, then the person is normally much more in tune with free will and choice. If the majority of planets are on the right, then the person is normally more in tune with words like fate and destiny. Now I have been trying to work this one out for a long time, and just in the last six months, I've realized that fate and destiny are two different things. I don't believe in fate. I am not here to do something specific. There. Is no, there is no pathway for me but destiny. Yes, my soul chose to come here for a purpose. Now I know I'm going to do things in my life. I already am, and I'm not at my peak yet. I know when my peak will be. It'll be in about five years time, but the way I choose to get there is up to me. When I was 14, I was at a very, very top school. I was top of the class in everything. I was going to go to Oxford and Cambridge. I was going to be a lawyer or a politician. And then I had some very bad family experiences in the case of one year, and I went from being top of the class to being bottom of the class, and then I got expelled. So instead of becoming a lawyer or a politician, I've become an astrologer. So I'm still going to get my ideas out into the world, but in a different way, to which I might have done if my childhood had been different. It's not just a game. It is an adventure. The world is full of people who feel that they are harmed done by poor me. I've got oh, I've got cancer, oh, I've got really bad bones. My teeth are hurting. Oh, I'm living in a oppressive political regime. It's I'm thinking, yeah, you're not living in Palestine. You know, be grateful for what you've got and make a difference in your own world and in the lives of people around you, because laughter and joy is free. You don't have to pay for it, and you can find humor in anything and everything. And when you smile, people around you smile back, and then the world becomes a better place. It's simple. My glass is half full, even when I was hungry and living on the streets with no money when I was young, my glass was half full. So it's a state of mind, I think.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:14

And speaking of destiny, I know a lot of people are searching for their purpose, like you said, we knew it before we incarnated, and then we spend our lives trying to find it or create it or activate it. What is your perspective on what a life purpose is? You mentioned it a little bit that I was meant to come out, you know, speak to the public, but it could have been through being a politician or lawyer, but it's through being an astrologer, how specific Do you think a life purpose is? Is it a profession? Or could it be just to be a mother of five, or to live in the woods and start to work with herbs and just be on your own like because that's what your soul is longing for.

Steve Judd 38:03

When I find people who are in tune with their sole purpose, as you say, they could be a mother of five children or a hermit in the woods, they are happy. They are happy in their soul. They feel content. And that tells me that they are living a true life, a real life. Many people are not in that position. So the world is then split into those who who take the hard way, make the hard choices and explore all the different possibilities and potentials and do everything the hard way, which is the best way to do things? Or those who look for the quick, cheap options and believe what the television and the newspapers say and take the antidepressants and expect everything to be put on a plate for them. That doesn't work short term, yes, but not long term. If there's one thing that astrology has taught me, it is that if you do everything the hard way, and you don't take shortcuts, and you take your time and you do it properly, you are guaranteed success. Now.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:23

On a global from a global perspective, looking at astrology, what are the planetary shifts you are seeing happening now that has never happened before, like you mentioned, you have never seen what you see now, and you have traced it back to 12,000 years. So what are we seeing that we've never seen before?

Steve Judd 39:45

We're seeing all of the four outer planets, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto changing sign in a way that's never happened before. They're moving from feminine to. Into masculine signs, all at the same time, all within a year of each other, and this is leading to such a shift. Now in the immediate short term, what we are seeing we have just seen Pluto move from Capricorn in to Aquarius. We've also just seen Saturn and Neptune moving together into Aries and now moving back into Pisces. In a few days time, we have an eclipse of the sun over Antarctica, but an eclipse, and it is exactly opposite Saturn, which is at 29 degrees of Pisces in the very last degree of the zodiac. Within a year, all of the outer planets will be in the first one or two degrees of their new signs, and they will all be making beautiful aspects to each other. We're going to see a sudden growth in this next couple of years of new technology, but not new technology. In terms of machines, I'm talking about software, I can truly see a situation in the next few years where we're going to be able to combine elements of the human genome with soft technology, not like cyborg, but in a way where it's kind of like where we can download consciousness. Within a year or two, will the ideas of talking to people on the telephone or on a mobile will be gone within a year, we'll a little device now and then on our own. We just tap it, and we get a hologram of someone in front of us where we can talk to them that real time. The these are breaking the boundaries, these ideas of borders and language, we already have software that can instantaneously translate the language you and I are speaking now. Someone else listening to this live in China, Paraguay, South Africa, will be able to hear it in their language. This is breaking the boundaries, breaking borders, turning us into one species on one planet, and not a moment too soon, because this is the only future that's really going to guarantee the future of the human race. Otherwise we become fragmented into tribes, and we've done that for 2000 years. I think enough is enough. So, yeah, Uranus, moving into Gemini, bringing a lot of change into communication and technology. Pluto, moving into Aquarius, bringing a transformation of the ideas of community and Saturn and Neptune, moving both together into Aries, bringing a whole new, whole new idea of the way we negotiate personal structures and boundaries and dissolve the old Piscean age of guilt and shame and fear. The future is in the imagination, but the collective imagination is going to bring us into a much more unified world where we become more integrated, more assimilated and more holistic. Will there be constant communication while still retaining our identity and our privacy of mind? That's important. There's nothing to fear of this, unless you're one of the 1% who owns the internet companies or the banks or the corporates, because these are what I call the dinosaurs, and they're coming to the end of their reign. But that's evolution.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:56

You seem quite optimistic, even though you said that it might be a breakthrough or a breakdown, but you seem to believe that we'll make it right.

Steve Judd 44:09

It would be a waste of 10,000 years of evolution if we didn't. On the other hand, I am 70, okay, I don't think I might see 80 I might see 85 I don't think I will see 86 so I'm in the last 10 to 15 years of my life, and I have seen fantastic changes in my life. There is no one under the age of 3035, alive today. Who know? Who remembers what it was like before computers or mobile phones? There was no processed food. When I was a child, we lived out the garden. There was no supermarkets. We changed so much. Such as 60 years, 70 years. So yes, I retain my optimism, and it may be foolish hope, but I have grandchildren, so I want the world to be a better place for them. I've always said, from the word go, I've always said, If astrology were taught in schools within two generations, we would see an end to warfare, violence, misogyny, racism and the differences between people. When I organize events, astrological events, I try and put people with the same moon sign on the same table, because then everyone gets on. Doesn't matter what nationality or religion you are, you know, you get all the people with the moon in Aries. Okay, you got the moon in Aries. Okay, let's get on with stuff. Can't be no time for talking. Let's just do it. And all the Moon in Scorpio. People go, Yeah, let's talk about psychology and and all the moon in cancer. People I sit down and talk about their mothers and their feelings and their emotions and, and it's quite funny to watch, and I'm being obviously generalizing. But then I have an evil twin brother. I have an alter ego. It's me, but I changed my personality. I have an alter ego called the caustic astrologer, who does stand up comedy using astrology. And I go out and I spoke to people by their sun signs, and it's great fun. I don't make any money at it, but I have a lot of fun doing it. And people laugh at themselves. You know, when I walk into a when I go into a bar, for example, and I do a stand up, 10 Minute Comedy session on astrology signs, and I say, Okay, so I'm going to insult all of you now, and I always say, so let's start with talking about the most boring sign of a zodiac, and everyone Oh, please don't say me. Please don't say me. And then I'll say Taurus. You're up. How to wind up a Virgo? You just go into their bathroom when they're not at home, and move everything two centimeters to the right. You know it's it's bringing the humor in getting people to be able to laugh at themselves. It brings joy into the world. It stops people taking themselves too seriously. And there's never been a species that can laugh at themselves like we can. So I enjoy it.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:50

And speaking of humor and joy, when I ask my final question in my episode, what the deeper meaning of life is, and I'm curious to hear that from you as well. Later on, many say joy. And I'm wondering, do you have any advice on how we actually are part of this shift in a positive way? How are we going to make it? Is that, for instance, through activating more joy, following our hearts, living our purpose like I'm interested in hearing, how are we going to elevate our consciousness to make this shift?

Steve Judd 48:30

I truly believe, in my heart of hearts, that whilst humor is a vital part of our future and our present as important, if not more so, is the ability to walk out of our houses into the countryside, onto the beach, onto the cliff edge in the middle of the night, and Look up and go, Ah, I can see patterns. Ah, there's Mars. Ah, that's making that shape. Ah, I can get meaning from that. It's an interface between the heavens and the earth, and we are on the middle of that interface, we can find meaning. Understanding is easy. Meaning is not. When the first human stood up on the East African plane and looked up, they would have gone, what the hell is that? And we've always looked to the sky for help, for meaning, and as long as we continue to do that, meaning will come and we will get the help and the answers we need the universe provides. The universe has an interest in us evolving joy is a big part of it, but so is intelligence and wisdom. And that does not mean just being greedy and powerful. It means using love and joy and wisdom says it all really.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:30

beautiful. I really enjoyed our conversation, Steve, it has been lovely having you here, and that leads me over to my final questions, and my first one is actually, what is self love, to you?

Steve Judd 50:44

What is self love? It is something I have never achieved. It is something I've always aimed for, and every time I get to where I think it is, I realize there's another step on the path. I'm always getting better. Never going to be perfect, but I'm always improving. And 98% is good enough. If I had 100% I would have wings. I'm happy to stay on the road. I will get to the destination when this body dies. Until then, I'm just happy to be a traveler and enjoying the journey. And that, to me, is about self love.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:38

lovely. And I did ask you a little bit, but I'll ask you as a final question, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Steve Judd 51:48

What is the deeper meaning of life. To marvel at the world, to look at the world around us and see things that we cannot explain, and to love the fact that we don't know everything, to unify with the whole world without understanding, to just dance with it. The time I am happiest when I'm on a when I'm on a dance floor, trance, low level trance, with piano and violin in the background, but the beat, I will dance for hours. And I don't think I just dance. I'm going to come out of it exhausted but happy. So to me, the deepest meaning of the world. The deepest thing that I look for is to Marvel, to marvel at the beauty and to see that reflected in other people's eyes.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:50

Beautiful. So inspiring. Steve, if people want to connect with you or learn more from you, where can they do so on.

Steve Judd 52:59

I have a friend who is my techie. He's got me on Instagram, even though I don't really like it, but yeah, he's got me on Instagram at Steve Judd astrology. And then there's Steve Judd astrology on YouTube. I have a couple of websites, Astro babble productions, and Stevejudd.co and my email is [email protected] and people can find me, and I will always reply. Sometimes it takes me a year or two, but I always reply in the long run. And I'm busy doing teaching courses, and I'm doing a big documentary on the history of Western astrology, and I'm teaching, I'm lecturing in theaters in London in this next week. I'm just starting a beginner's course in astrology again for the final time in my life. And astrology is my life. I will continue doing it until the day I die. I will never retire. I love my life.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:59

Gosh, this has been so inspiring. Thank you so much for coming to the show, and thank you for your amazing work, and maybe fingers crossed, we'll see you in Norway one day.

Steve Judd 54:09

Oh, that would be lovely. I'd love to come to Norway, because it's what I love, the idea of the whole idea of Norway, from the cows and the fjords to the people and the independence of it and the fresh air. Yeah, I'll come. I will, I promise you, I will come to Norway at some stage in the near ish future. Within two years, I will come to Norway, and then we will sit down and have coffee.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:38

Would love that. I'll see you then. Thank you, Steve.