Why Intuitive Discipline Unlocks the Magic of Life! With Heather Mays

Heather Mays 0:00

And I think people are sometimes surprised by the fact that connecting into your intuition or developing animal communication or learning to channel takes discipline, because we feel like discipline is hard or stodgy, and these other topics are so expansive and fluid, and we should just step into it, but it takes the discipline of practicing and the discipline of remembering. Ascension is not perfection. The beauty of being human is in the muck of it. That's what your soul develops. You don't go to the gym and just sit there and watch other people lift weights. You go to the gym and you have the resistance you lift the weights because that's how you're growing.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:39

Was the voice of a flower different than from the grass.

Heather Mays 0:44

As crazy as it sounds, they have different voices. They have different accents. Sometimes, like you and I do, they have different really tones. I weird sentence, but I once was surprised by a turtle who had a British accent. Now I didn't imagine that because I would never like I would never expect that. And then they also have different patterns of speech and different rhythms to their speech. So trees are often very they're slower. Trees aren't rushed.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:16

What kind of role do our pets play in our lives and how we can learn to telepathically communicate

Heather Mays 1:25

with them. Yes, I love this topic so much, and

Jannecke Øinæs 1:36

Heather Mays a warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North show.

Heather Mays 1:39

Thank you, Jannecke. It's so exciting to be here, and as always a joy to connect with you and your community. And I love the conversations that we have, so I'm excited to dive in today.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:52

I love them too, and I always find our conversations magical, and I'm ready to get enchanted again, because you've had a very extraordinary childhood being connected to spirit all your life, not just spirit guides, but trees, animals, flowers, elementals, grass. You have so many interesting stories, and today, you are a channeler of multi dimensional beings. You are a lifelong medium, an animal communicator. You make these gorgeous, energetic signature portraits, and I received one of them myself, where you painted my soul, and it was just such a gift to receive. And it seems like that's quite a unique ability you have. And there's many things I want to dive into today, but before we do how do you feel? A conversation today is going to expand people's consciousness.

Heather Mays 2:47

I hope that it helps them remember how amazing they are. That is part of my mission. I love to empower and embolden people to connect with their authenticity and remember because we live in a world that loves to take away, it loves to detract, it loves to limit us, and we're so I'm not the only magical being. We're all completely beautiful magical beings, but sometimes we just need a little reminder. So I hope our conversation today is that reminder for somebody

Jannecke Øinæs 3:18

and how can we connect to the magic of life. Because when I think of you and I do research before this interview, it's sort of like I'm tapping into that magical realm that I so wanted to be true when I was little, and then I heard that Santa Claus is not real, and all these beings, dragons, unicorns, fairies, they're not real. Gosh, I was so disappointed. But on some level, they are real, aren't they?

Heather Mays 3:47

I think so, yes, and that's one of the surprises that's come up for me this year, is connecting with dragons. And I know many in the audience do as well. And I I'm like you with that. For that one in particular, I thought, Oh, that would be so cool that dragons existed, and you know, the princess in the tower, or the dragon with the treasure. And I think there are so many of these myths or legends that we tuned into as kids and we were attracted to as kids that we were really hearing or feeling the truth of it, and then the real world came in and said, it's not like this. It's different, and you can't have that imagination, and you can't connect into things beyond what you can see, sense, hear, taste, touch with your physical senses. But there is so much beyond what we have as our physical limitations in our physical body and our third dimensional gravity. And I think to answer that question of, how do we dive into that magic? It's a deep remembering. It's almost decoupling or taking ourselves out of all of that. Sense of limitation, and all of those definitions that have been put on us from other people, and really connecting back into our authenticity and honoring that imagination, or what we called imagination, and just what if for a second we were channeling, or we were seeing, or we were being intuitive as kids, because I think that's more often what it is, and then we kind of get it programmed out of us, so connecting back into that, who am I as a soul, having the human experience, and what is out there that is so expansive that I can connect back into and then doing the work and having I use a word a lot in my classes about discipline, and I think people are sometimes surprised by the fact that connecting into your intuition or developing animal communication or learning to Channel takes discipline because we feel like discipline is, I don't know, slow or hard or stodgy, and these other topics are so expansive and fluid, and we should just step into it. But it takes the discipline of practicing and the discipline of remembering, and when we can come back to that for ourselves, that really sacred center, I think that's where we start to connect in to all that is magical and all that is expansive, and all that is kind of unseen by the physical eye.

Speaker 1 6:33

And for new subscribers and listeners, could you share some stories from your childhood where you were tapping into an expanded version of reality. Let's say it like that. Yeah.

Heather Mays 6:46

So for me, it happened kind of in two different ways. I was very connected to my team of guys, and as a kid, I had no idea that it was a team of guides. I just experienced energies that I knew weren't me, that had different perspectives about what I was doing. And for me, it kind of felt like this group of energy almost sitting on my shoulder, running like today. We would say it was probably like a virtual reality TV show, like they were running footage for me all day, and then in my dreaming state, I would review it and see, you know, what the cameras had captured for that day, what had gone on. And so for me, that was just normal. I didn't know any different. I didn't know that I was different in that way. So that's one way I experienced it. Another way is through connecting with animals in nature. I would hear the voices of animals. I know one example, there were a couple of horses that lived part time across the street from me, so that family boarded their horses at a facility, but sometimes they'd bring them home, and I would sneak across the street. I was not supposed to go. I was just like little, like three or four years old. What am I supposed to I'm not supposed to cross the street, but there were horses, and I wanted to go see them, and they were my friends, and I remembered them telling me kind of the gossip about the stable where they were, or I could hear them saying, like, just as much as you and I are having this conversation, you know, their lips weren't moving, but I heard their wishes, you know, Can you bring me the piece of grass over there that I can't quite reach because it's over the fence and I can't get it? And so I just knew without a doubt, because nobody had told me to doubt it, I knew that everything had a consciousness, and everything was connected, and I would hear plants say hello to me or say, because I like to walk by and pick leaves and kind of taste them, very bad habit as a child again. But they would say, oh, it's not safe to touch me or eat me or Oh, you can, you know, you can have a little nibble on this. So for me, that's how that was normal. That's what the world was. And I really, really really disliked being told that that wasn't normal, or that that was just my imagination, because I wasn't trying to hear that. It just it was there. It's not like I was saying I What would I imagine a horse would say? I didn't do that? It just I received it, or I perceived it more than I was trying to grasp it. So that's some of the stuff that happened for me as a kid and led.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:31

Can I ask sort of how it feels to hear it like, was the voice of a flower different than from the grass? Like, would you be able to differentiate the different energies and voices and feelings?

Heather Mays 9:46

That's a great question. And yes, they have as crazy as it sounds, they have different voices. They have different accents. Sometimes, like you and I do, they have. Of different really, tones. I weird sentence, but I once was surprised by a turtle who had a British accent. Now I didn't imagine that, because I would never like I would never expect that, but he said something to me in a British accent, and that was as an adult. That wasn't even me as a kid. So and there's also a different feeling of almost like a magnet of where the voice is coming from for me. So if I heard such an odd conversation, if I heard a tree talking, a flower talking and the grass talking, I would hear them coming in almost relative to where they are in in relation to me. So the tree, I might hear it coming at me, almost like echo location. I would hear it coming from a different area. It would be up high, the grass would sound like it was coming from down low. And then they also have different frequencies or different patterns of speech and different rhythms to their speech. So trees are often very they're slower. And I think it has to do with their the density that they carry, if it's a very large tree, and it's been there for hundreds of years. So you can imagine, it has a lot of wisdom. It's seen a lot of things in its life. It's not very rushed. Trees aren't rushed. They just grow slowly. But a flower has a short lifespan, so it's kind of like a little more energetic and vibrant. So there's different qualities or textures to the way that they come through for me anyway, maybe it doesn't work like that for everybody.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:40

Fascinating, and I think and believe we're opening up more and more everybody on the planet to encompass, to embrace, more of what our reality is and and I also think reality is limitless, so we will just keep expanding and expanding. I also wanted to hear a bit about something you said in another episode that just stunned me. Since you're doing these energetic signature portraits, you are seeing geometry around people you're seeing sort of beyond the veil, and you had this UPS guy knocking on your door, and you could hardly see his face because you were just seeing all other kinds of information about the soul. Can you share that and how it is like being you seeing deeper into each soul and each person?

Heather Mays 12:40

Yeah, yeah. So to tell a little more about that story, and I think also share it as a teachable moment. So when this type of art started coming through for me, I didn't really know what it was, and I kept trying to dismiss it like I don't have time to learn something new. I don't understand what it is, and I would see those geometric patterns in my sleep at first, all night, every night. And I didn't know what it was, they were pretty it was like looking through a kaleidoscope. But I thought, yeah, okay, cool, whatever. But So, and this is what I love to teach my students about intuition in an intuitive message will often keep coming back, keep coming back, and it doesn't feel like your thoughts that might also like, oh, I shouldn't do this. So it doesn't feel like limitation. It just feels like information. And if it's on repeat, that's a good sign for you that it's an intuitive message often. So I kept seeing geometry color, geometry color. Didn't know what it was and tried to ignore it. So when you try to ignore your intuition, often, the universe will crank the volume up a little bit. And so that's what happened with this art. I started seeing it started we can tie it back too. I started seeing it around trees. I would be out hiking in a forest, and I would see almost like crystalline, geometric, not in full color. It looked a little bit like an overlay or a filter we might use on our cameras or our photos today, but I would see it over trees, and I would kind of be like, Okay, back to the trail. I need to focus. I don't know what that is. I don't have time for that. And then so it got louder and louder, and I would start seeing it more clearly and more like it was harder to distinguish between a physical object in front of me and the geometry behind it. And then that's when I received a package, you know, from UPS, and I'm just opening my door expecting to have a conversation with another human face, but I didn't see a human face. I saw the geometry and the color of this person, and I'm taking the package trying to look like around, like, can I see beyond you to make eye contact and thank you. And that's when I thought, well, this is impractical, and I I can't go walking around talking to people and not seeing them and having that kind of interaction. So. So what do I need to do to get this message or this information out of me and into something else? And that's how I started to make these paintings and digital portraits in that way. So now that I've brought that message through me as the physical vessel, I can still witness that geometry, but it's softer, it's more muted, and I need to consciously tune into it in order to see it with somebody, instead of it just being like, hey, there all the time. So I learned to work with what was being sent to say, Okay, it's not practical for me. In a similar fashion, working with spirits who have crossed over. I'm not on all the time to where I always hear dead people. I make the conscious choice to say I want to tune into spirit now, because it just it fries your nervous system to stay open that much. So for me, I've learned to develop an on and off switch with these different things. But sometimes that switch has to stay on for a long time and again. Maybe this is just a heather thing, because I'm kind of stubborn. It has to stay on for a long time and get my attention before I'll actually do something with it, and then learn to switch it off or turn it down in that way.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:16

And what does it mean that you see the geometry around people. Does that mean that that's sort of the essence of who we are, that a lot of what we are is mathematics, but I mean, we're so much more.

Heather Mays 16:32

Yeah, absolutely. And I'm not even someone who loved mathematics as a kid, although I did love geometry class. I think what my team of guys have shared with me is that the geometry is the best way to encapsulate the frequency of what we are. So the energetic signature portrait is the combination of colors. Colors all have frequency, just like we see on a spectrum shape all has frequency. So it's a little bit like a symphony, where you can have the trumpets have what they're playing. The piano is playing something else. The drums are doing something together. It's the piece of music. So with us, we are the combination of frequency of color and geometry, and in this particular lifetime, it it takes its own form. In another lifetime, it may take a different presentation. And even two years from now, my geometry can change because we're interconnected and we're fluid, and if I have a relationship with someone that terminates, that energy leaves my field. And so my geometry shifts and change changes. My colors shift and change. Same thing as you know someone coming into your experience. So I love to work with this art over a period of time with people too, to say, here's how what you just went through has shaped and formed you, and here are other messages that are coming through. So it's a little bit like what we might call a zip drive, where I can put 200 documents in there, but you're getting one thing, same with the frequency in the art, we're seeing it as things that look like clouds or things that look like triangles or geometry or lotus flowers. It's the combination of all of that that is the energy of our soul.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:34

And do you think this is part of being or becoming the new human that will start to see each other in a more true way, not just as Heather and janika wearing pink and gold today.

Heather Mays 18:49

Absolutely, absolutely, I think so. And that's kind of how my team got my attention with the art finally, because they were showing me, you know how when you go to a conference or you're in a new place, and you wear a name tag. Hello. My name is Heather. They were saying this art is that. So as we continue on our progression toward being more integrated with fifth dimensional energy, we are all whether you're seeing it as geometry, as I do, or you're feeling it as Oh, I feel safe with yannica. I trust her that that's also information coming at me intuitively. We're all experiencing each other in different ways that go beyond the boundaries of our skin, our flesh, our clothes, all of that and more into the truth of who we are. So I think whether that vehicle is through art or any kind of intuitive information, we're seeing more and more of each other, and also seeing more and more of ourselves, or tuning into that what you said earlier was so beautiful, like it's limitless. There is no limit to it. We're just starting to expand. Into the acceptance of all of who we are, and then all of who one another are as well. And as we do that, we're breaking out of the bonds of the physical body. So this is not who I am at all. This is the outfit I've put on, literally and metaphorically for the day to be Heather. But I'm so much more than that, because I have my past lives, parallel lives, future lives, all of that, as do all of you watching. We're just distilled down into this one little presentation. So when our collective energy changes, so that we don't need the gravity as much of third dimension, which is, I'm going to be one thing in one place, vibrating a little bit slowly as we're moving and we're vibrating more quickly we're expanding out to be able to see and witness and feel and know more of one another. And it's really beautiful to be able to do that, because it just unlocks so many things for us. I think,

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Jannecke Øinæs 21:58

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Heather Mays 23:46

Yeah, so we are so lucky and fortunate to be living in this time because we are the code breakers. We are the unlockers of so many I don't even think that's a word, but I just made it up of so many things that have come before us. So generational trauma is coming up. A lot more meaning. What's a good example from a client, someone who has a tricky relationship, maybe with their father? Well, maybe throughout time, her father had a tricky relationship with his father, who had a tricky relationship with that, with his father, and it just goes back. And the the aspects of the relationships may be different, but the the weight of the authority figure, or the father figure is just a theme running through that family. So it can run through a biological family. It can also run through a soul group, family. And so we're experiencing those often in two different ways. But if I'm just here having an experience, and I don't know how to tune into that, like you said, it's just I'm having that experience of having a difficult time with my father right now, when we can not just have the perspective that you so beautifully said about I'm experiencing this in a. Emotion. I'm not this emotion, but then expand out into say, My soul may be witnessing this and holding this energy because others before me, whether that's biological family or soul group, family, others couldn't quite solve it in their time frame. And that's not disparaging them. That's not to put them down. It is always also dependent on the collective energetic. So we're at this time right now. That's why we're the code breakers and the healers, because the collective energy is supporting moving through things. So yes, all the emotions are coming up, all the chaos is coming up, because it's for us to witness to love and to heal all those different aspects of ourselves, but we're feeling it in an amplified manner, often, because it's been passed down from these different soul lines or these different biological lines, and so it's kind of like my team just showed me going to a buffet, and you start with an empty plate and you put one thing on your plate. By the end of the buffet, you have, like a pile of food on your plate. We're at the end of that buffet where so many different emotions or traumas or challenging scenarios have been passed on to us, and so now it's here for us to work on in that way. And I think I'm hearing those stories more and more frequently, that people are having this different ability to tune into those emotions for themselves and healing it. So if we think of our lives, not even though we use the word past life, if we think of it being parallel, and they're all happening at the same time as we heal something here, it ripples out into those other timelines as well. So we're healing it for ourselves, and we're healing it for our ancestors, whether, again, that's biological or soul family, which then almost comes back in, like this Taurus field of energy into this timeline to add more healing, more love, more acceptance, more gratitude. So it's this kind of self fulfilling system that keeps refilling itself with this beautiful energy of growth and healing, and it's really powerful. And I say that from both sides, it's powerful in our ability to move through it now, but it's also powerful in the way we're feeling it. There are a lot of people that are feeling really heavy about things, because it isn't just yours. It's not just your sadness. You may be feeling the collective sadness as well, but you may also be feeling sadness from generations before you, and so things as the kids today would say, things hit differently. They they just feel sometimes harder to move through, or they take longer to move through things, but the work in returning to yourself and loving and forgiving and all of those things makes it so worth it to move through it like that. So I hope that answered the question in what we're talking about,

Jannecke Øinæs 28:15

yeah, that in a sense, the rewards are greater. Yes, and speaking of the multi dimensional self, is that something you've experienced in your own life, this incarnation, other selves of Heather? I mean, it wouldn't be Heather, but I know you've so connected to so many guides. But have you also experienced other selves accidentally?

Heather Mays 28:40

Yes, so and it kind of surprised me, and it was, I'm gonna say it was uncomfortable that I did. So it's not something I do lightly now that i It's kind of like I accidentally witnessed it, and now I can access it if I choose to, but I don't do it lightly because it's a bit strange for me. It feels odd and not fun. But I was in a meditation one time and connected into, again, accidentally, a future timeline where I saw exactly what was going to happen a couple of different ways. One was related to the the passing of my father, who was not sick at the time, and there was nothing on the radar about that happening. But I almost like if you travel in the car and take a nap and you wake up and you don't remember where you don't know where you are, hopefully you're not driving the car. You're a passenger in the car. But it was that feeling of, this isn't this isn't my reality. Wait, this is different. This isn't my reality. So I have jumped that way on a like a parallel timeline. It was a little bit future, but it's still this lifetime as me. So I consider that multi dimensional in a way, because it hadn't happened yet. So it was like traveling a little bit astral projecting. Into that. But then also, in that same it's a doozy of a meditation. In that same meditation, I felt this energy almost like going up an elevator, and I was able to see that multiple versions of me on multiple timelines that looked like this version of me, so in an aspect of Yes, it was Heather, but it was this version of me having different experiences in different realities. And then the elevator went up beyond that, and it was like over soul Heather or different aspects of me, and I saw different. It's like if you were looking down all these different hallways. I saw different paths and knew that, okay, that's a different aspect of me having a lifetime over there. And if I wanted to, I could walk down and kind of take a peek at that. And I feel like I went down a few of them, and then it's like, you know, I'm good, like, that's a lot to take on. And I felt energetically that it was draining, like, say, draining my life force. That's traumatic, but it would have taken a lot for me to sustain that and stay in that kind of visitation or meditation. So that's one of the ways that I've been able to witness that. And now, when I do work with people to connect with their past lives. That's one of the methods that I use to help them travel to see different things and then also connect in with parallel lives, multi dimensional lives. And I gotta say, so many amazing conversations about people doing fun stuff at Stargate and, you know, in Arcturus and Pleiades and Andromeda, and there are so many of us here at this time that are multitasking as souls, and we're doing so many other things. It's glorious. It's so much fun.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:53

And is it healthy in a way, couldn't we be totally confused about who we are when we're tapping into all these kinds of versions of ourselves and multi dimensionality?

Heather Mays 32:08

Yeah, I think it could be disorienting. Definitely. Another thing that I would see as a risk for it is, what if I connect into a lifetime that looks a lot better than this one. And then I just want to go in my mind and spend all my time there. And I don't really want to be present where I am here. And then it in some people can be a little bit of an obsession to, like, go out, oh, I need to know my past life from the Renaissance, because I think I had a better time there than I'm having here. And so we start removing our energy from the lifetime we're supposed to be focusing on so it, it requires a balance of of an interest in it or a curiosity in it, but not going so far into it that you feel distracted, and then the ability to say, and I love that the word multitasking came out because it feels like that, like we all know what multitasking is. We do it all the time. We're we're cooking dinner, we're reading or we're listening to an audiobook, we're texting friends, we're doing things at the same time, if we just understand that we're also having these lifetimes at the same time. I don't need to know the details of them. I just need to feel the authenticity of okay, Heather on another timeline is doing that. That's great. You go, girl like Go for it. Have a good time. And I've also walked with people and had experiences myself, where especially around comings and goings of relationship. So starting a relationship or a breakup with a relationship, seeing the multi dimensionality of that, meaning this person came into my life for this reason, because we had this past life connection that we didn't quite fit. We didn't finish the argument over here in the 1400s so we had to come have it here in the 2000s but feeling that connection can help people move through not that we still don't grieve the loss of of separation and death and relationships, but it gives you a different like you were saying about I'm I'm experiencing the emotion instead of I am the emotion. It gives us that multi dimensional ability to say, that's what my soul is going through. And I'm still I'm keeping an eye on that, but I'm also going to stay focused on this lifetime and see what comes up as the next lesson. So I think there is a danger in getting too tuned in, like to all those things, that we lose our focus here. So it takes trust as well to navigate that and say, I know that my soul has it, my higher self has it, it's all under control. But I just want to peek in a little bit and get a piece of wisdom and then come back to this, because this is where my central focus is for this particular lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:59

Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of one of those spiritual paradoxes, perhaps. And for me, I loved going out of my body, being lucid, traveling around in these different dimensions, the astral world, whatever that is. I'm not sure what it is, even but I was traveling in that realm, and I did that a lot, and then I realized that I can't get enough sleep. It disturbs my reality here, actually. And where do I want to be? Do I want to be here? I mean, there's got to be a reason why I'm physical, right here, right now. So I felt that I've traveled a long way, like around the world, to just come home to myself, right? So it is kind of that balance, you know, that you want to send and you want to connect out there to the angels, but everything is also inside of you, and it's something about being present here and now in this version of Yannick and this version of Heather, yeah, yeah,

Heather Mays 36:05

yeah, presence is the portal. So the more present we are with what we're focused on right now, the more everything else can expand, and the more we can feel into it. But it's a little bit like if you look at something too close, it dissolves and it goes away. But if I know that it's there and I can tap into it, I can feel it more strongly. I want to mention too something about what you were saying when I first started channeling, I was at a weekend workshop to kind of practice with, with some other people. And it's that same experience when I connected in and channeled, I came back crying because I thought, I want to be there, that that was pure love, like wherever that space is. I don't have to pay bills, I don't have to have an argument with anybody, I don't have to sit in traffic, I don't have to go grocery shopping that, like, why can't I just be there? And I'm hearing that from a lot of clients too, as they're learning to connect more and more with greater aspects of themselves. There, there starts to be this homesickness. Like, I just want that, because that feels so unlimited, and that feels great. So the trick, or I think the work of us here in this timeline on Earth right now, is to bring that aspect that you feel of whatever it is, the pure love you're feeling, the joy, the gratitude, the elation, and live that through your human body. Live that through your physical body. Plant that here, because then you're broadcasting that frequency here. And that's what we say often about creating heaven on earth. That's how we're doing it, where it's almost like we're going fishing. We bring that delicious juicy energy back here and we plant it in, and we try to hold on to it through this physicality, and that's how we grow and expand,

Jannecke Øinæs 38:06

yes, and also through being a human with the shadow work, for instance, embracing all that I am not just the good sides and that my soul actually chose to do that for a very deep reason, and when I trust that that helps me, like, Okay, I'll get back to that airy fairy, beautiful landscape or beautiful heaven like realm. But now I'm here. I'm doing this class, and I should be present in it, right? What? At least I've come to in my own Yeah, a journey. Yeah. I wanted to jump over to new knowledge that has been coming through, through guides that you've started to connect with. And they called something along the lines of a delar, beautiful name, by the way. Who are they, and what have they been saying about the times we're living in right now and what's coming because they're also speaking about 2026 and 2027 Yeah,

Heather Mays 39:11

so they it's spelled very strangely. They pronounce it, or I hear it. It's not like they're writing it down for me, but I hear it as the idlr, and they come through as a coalition of light. And when I connect into their energy, it is hundreds, if not 1000 beings. I kind of want to say it's 888 beings, because I like that, like that's a good spiritual number, but it's boundless, this boundless amount of beings. And it just feels like whenever I connect into them, different individuals or beings step forward. Sometimes it's a group of beings or a collective within the greater collective, but it's like this warehouse of all these energies. And it's angelic realm, it's galactic it's dragons, it's loved ones in spirit, it's animals in spirit. Spirit. It's collective consciousness, like we were mentioning about trees and things like that. So it's this storehouse, almost of these different beings that allow them to come through. And what they've been sharing is, along the lines, a little bit of what we've been talking about, about presence, is the portal, and that is the real work, and it's the real magic. We were talking about a magical life. The magic is in doing the dance steps that we're doing of being human. And the more we can let go of the the quest for perfection, and the more we can sit in the rawness of being human like you just said that the bad parts, the bad moods that I have, the time I have a short temper, the times I cry when I didn't mean to the times I've said something stupid to somebody, we all have that ascension is not perfection. 5d is not pure. In that way, the beauty of being human is in the muck of it and in that's what your soul develops. You don't go to the gym and just sit there and watch other people lift weights. You go to the gym and you have the resistance. You lift the weights because that's how you're growing. So we're here in this time to lift those weights and to grow. And we're not only doing it for ourselves, we're witnessing and giving our compassion, hopefully, and our patience to all of this chaos around the world that is unfolding. And as we move forward into 2026 and 2027 it will continue to feel chaotic, but the peace that they bring through is so many more of us are learning to witness it from a distance and witness it through peace. Witness it through love, not witness it through Oh, no, what's happening? I I'm worried about it. We're learning more, and if we aren't learning, we should start to learn to regulate our nervous system, because that is one of the beautiful pieces about being human too. We have this fight or flight thing that gets us out of trouble, but we also can reverse engineer that fight or flight response to say, No, I see something scary, and I say, it's not. And then we're broadcasting that piece out, we're broadcasting that strength out, and the more we learn to use that as a tool, not just to regulate ourselves, but to regulate what's around us, the more we carve out that energy that we all want to see. So the real work of going forward is in that nervous system, regulation and coupling that with our authenticity and knowing who they like to say, Who the f we are, but their F means frequency, which I think is kind of fun. It's not the cuss word, learning who we are and seeing yourself in all of the kind of ordinary human stuff, the arguments, the being online, at the store, all those different things, but, but sitting in that moment, fully present in the space of your heart as, okay, I'm a multi dimensional being, but I'm here, having this really hard time right now, and I'm going to enjoy that I'm having the hard time. And it's, it's an odd thing to get yourself to wrap your mind around and to sit with. But the more we do it, the more the chaos falls away, the more peace we bring to the world, the more joy we bring to the world, the more Unlimited, not just saying, dimensions are unlimited, or the spiritual experience is unlimited. But guess what, all of everything on the earth can be unlimited. We need to program it to be that way. It's got to come through us, so that your witnessing of something becomes what that something is. So if I'm looking in the mirror and I'm saying I don't like myself, and if I'm hardest on myself, then whatever anybody else says about me doesn't matter, because I've already said it the worst way it could be said. I'm programming that into that experience. But if I look at my reflection and say, I'm doing the best I can, I promise I'm really trying my best, that's what I'm programming into the experience. So as we're witnessing world events as we're witnessing one another. That's the thing they talk about a lot, too. Witnessing one another as you're a completely magical, multi dimensional being, you're saying some really mean things to me right now. Like, you could be in an argument with somebody and like, I don't like what you're telling me, but I see your soul, and I see the journey that you're on too the more we are bringing that awareness to the tiniest, smallest, most frustrating aspects of our lives, the more we're shifting the world. And more and more of us are doing it. So they're kind of giving it as advice, but also celebrating the fact that so many of us are doing that work. And it takes the discipline and the dedication to keep doing it and bring it forward.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:05

Interesting, interesting. What you said about programming ourselves, I haven't looked at it that way. They talked about the nervous system. I would love for you to expand on that. So let's say you have an anxiety attack or just have an overwhelming feeling with your nervous system. What can you do in that moment when it seems like your body is reacting to something and you just you're losing it somehow, and you don't know what to do in the moment?

Heather Mays 45:40

Yeah, and please, know everyone watching. I'm someone who has suffered from anxiety, so I definitely walked that path a lot in my life, and I have some not great experiences of it, and had my own techniques to work through it. And what worked for me was learning energy healing. And it's not that the energy healing was the magic that fixed anything, but the energy healing was the awareness of me coming back to this moment so often when we are having an episode of anxiety. It's a little bit similar to what we were saying about connecting into those alternate versions of yourself, like you're connecting into things that often haven't happened yet. You're worried about something, you're worried about a situation. You're worried you feel fear in your body, and it can be so visceral and so real and so debilitating, breath, work and stillness. Because when when we think about that nervous system, it's fight, flight. I forget the other one now that I'm trying to ride. Yes, thank you. Exactly. I never liked that one. I was always like, I'm out. I'm going. So, yeah, if you think of that, and you'd say, Okay, if, if freeze is my response, then I just need to take a small motion about something. It doesn't have to be related to what I'm afraid of at all, or what I'm having anxiety over. Maybe I just go for a walk. Maybe I make myself a cup of tea. Let me unlock myself that way. Take my focus off the fear through movement. If I'm freezing, if it's flight that I'm usually drawn to do, then I need stillness. Remedy for that is let me just sit and breathe and be still, or maybe I listen to music for a minute. Maybe I call a friend and I don't even talk about my problems. I don't talk about what I'm worried about, but I just drop into that moment. So looking at it that way, breath work can be helpful coming into your body. Often, we kind of disassociate. We we feel like we're not even there, like Heather's having a bad experience of anxiety. I'm just gonna love it. I'm just gonna float off here and imagine something, or dream something, or have my thoughts go completely counter to what I'm witnessing. So really, coming into the present and coming into your body. And I would say also, if someone hasn't already learned about the chakra system to do that, there's a really great technique about really just envisioning each energy center or chakra and regulating those because often when we're having anxiety, they're spinning so quickly, or the opposite could be true as well. They're just stuck and stagnant, and then energy isn't flowing through your body at all. So learning those different tools for yourself can be really helpful to unlocking that

Jannecke Øinæs 48:36

I want to jump over to another topic that I'd love to hear a bit about, and that is animal communication. Because I know you love animals, and you are communicating with animals, and you just got a new puppy, and I have my own dog. So what kind of role do our pets play in our lives? And could you also speak a bit to how we can learn to telepathically communicate with

Heather Mays 49:02

them. Yes, I love this topic so much, and I think it's so important at this time too, as we're learning about things like intuition or channeling or connecting to spirit guides or whatever it is, we have all these beautiful souls that we can practice that kind of non vocal communication with and I think that helps us develop those other abilities as well. So for me, our animals, whether we're talking about our personal pets, or even animals on the planet in general, they are also here at this time, for this evolution, for our ascension. They're holding these different contracts with us as soul, contracts to come in and be what helps our soul evolve. And I'll give a personal example. As I was like, what got me studying energy healing, since we were just talking about that, was I had pets at the time who had some health concerns, and I. The Veterinary system wasn't really accomplishing what I hoped it would, so I wanted to explore other options. And I say it that way, because sometimes a pet comes into our life to unlock something for us like we would probably I wouldn't have studied energy healing for myself. I would have just been like, Oh, that's a luxury. I'm not going to connect into it, but if I needed to do it on behalf of my dog, then I'm going to learn it, then I'm going to take it on. And sometimes people will do that with healthy habits. Oh, I'll just eat the bag of donuts, but my dog needs the organic dog food or whatever. And then we kind of understand or realize for ourselves, oh, it would be better for me if I ate healthy as well. So I think they come to be mirrors and reflectors of us, and maybe not even in big ways, like the energy healing or the healthy habits. Maybe it's just in your own personal energy. If you have a pet who is super reactive, how are you reacting to the world? Are they showing you, maybe a little bit of how you walk through your day energetically and as you calm down, do they then also learn to calm down? So they help us learn to be better humans, I think, in a lot of ways, or they challenge us to take on different tasks or awarenesses that we may not have looked into for ourselves, and that's all in some ways, agreed upon at the sole contract level. So if, if you've ever anybody out there who's a pet lover, you know those animals are, they are just in your life for a reason, because you've they've chosen to come in. I picture them kind of parachuting in to your life, like, Oh, when I was 30, I needed to adopt a dog. They are part of your soul, contract planning, and they come in when life aligns in a certain way that the lessons that they're there to share with you and the love they're there to share with you fit that path that you're on.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:55

So it's interesting that you're saying that pets can come into your life at a later point in life, because they're going to teach you something. And my dog, or our dog, came into my life when I was 43 years old, and before that, I was allergic and never had dog. Dogs, never had any connection to pets, especially, I think it's because I've been allergic so I've been afraid of them on some level, and then this dog comes into my life, and I'm not allergic to him, which is a miracle I still cannot understand, because I'm allergic to all other kinds of dogs. It's really peculiar. So I was wondering, could you read into what sort of his role is for me in this lifetime.

Heather Mays 52:44

Can you share his name with me, even if we edit it out later?

Jannecke Øinæs 52:49

Yeah, his name is Storm.

Heather Mays 52:58

Okay. There's a lot with that relationship that I feel is your expansion so you seeing the world with bigger eyes, is the way I'm I'm hearing it, seeing things differently, getting you out of, well, getting you into new routines, but getting you out of like what you were letting go of at age 43 and what you were stepping into. He's kind of like the new chapter in the book. He's got the new energy for you to help walk through different things in your life. And there's a little bit of a joke, like, of course, you were allergic to the all the other dogs because they would have distracted you so you didn't meet storm, because you would have been like otherwise engaged in having other pets. So that was part of your soul contract. In a way, as odd as that sounds to say, I don't want to have another dog come into my life, and then however I need that to happen, let's make that happen. And how it happened was, I'm allergic to them, so I'm going to keep them at a distance, because he was meant to walk with you through transitions. He has this energy, at least the way I'm seeing it today, of just being very noble and being up for anything as well. But this the kind of energy, if he were a human, he's the person who opens the door for you, or he so he's doing that metaphorically, like he opens the door for you. He helps you meet who you need to meet. He helps you make the connections you need to make. And then really important right now is helping you, kind of what we were talking about earlier, regulate your energy, helping you come back to I've done work for the day. I've had the multitasking that I'm going to do. I'm just going to be in the present moment and walk with the dog, or I'm going to feed the dog. There's this beautiful ability of dropping into the present moment that. He's just like anchoring you into and I think he also works with the energy of your household to keep it really clear and clean and high vibration for the work that you're doing and the conversations that you host.

Jannecke Øinæs 55:15

Thank you so much. That was lovely. I can recognize that it resonates good it does. Yeah, he's not here now, and I miss him like I never thought I could love a dog so much. Yeah, just my last question about pets, how can we learn to communicate with them telepathically? Do you have some advice?

Heather Mays 55:38

Yeah, I do. So there are a lot of different techniques that you can use to do that. There are a lot of books that have been written about it, online courses. I have one as well. That's real easy to walk through it, but to break it down really simplistically, it starts with not thinking that we're communicating from here or here. We're communicating from our heart to their heart. So one of the techniques that I teach is imagining this beautiful, sparkly pink beam of light coming out of your heart into their heart, and that's where you're sending your message. So it's not like you should go pick up the ball or you should go get the leash. It's coming from here. And really that's why I think communicating with our animals is so good as we're on our spiritual path, because it's teaching us presence. It's teaching us clarity in what we're conveying. Because the other thing with pets is they are reading and sensing your intention and your emotions more than the words you're saying. So that's why sometimes if you have a dog that wants to jump on the couch, and you say, no, no, no, don't jump on the couch. But what you're picturing is them jumping on the couch. They're reading that picture because they're very they're often very visual and very simplistic in the way they're communicating. That doesn't mean they're simple minded. They're just bottom lining it. So if you want to say no, no, no, don't get on the couch. Picture your dog on the floor, as you're saying it, instead of like, Oh, they're going to tear up that cushion. I know it. Picture what you want. So it helps us, as we're learning to communicate really be clear on what we want. Because how often do our thoughts just go wandering about any old thing, when really we need to be clear about our intention and really simplifying what it is. So the heart to heart connection is a great one. There are other ways as well, but I think it's it's such a fun thing to practice with your dog or your cat or your ferret or your fish or whatever. There's no limit to who you can connect with and work with. And some of the things that they will share back with you are just so amazing and can help you understand yourself. Because I like I said, they're the little mirrors that are watching all of us like they feel that intention. They feel our emotions. They understand sometimes us better than we do. So a beautiful relationship, indeed,

Jannecke Øinæs 58:05

beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing. That's super helpful. I can't wait to practice that when he gets home. And very interesting, what you said, like, don't picture the bed or the couch if you don't want them to jump into it. I haven't thought about that? Yeah, we're having an issue on exactly that. So now,

Heather Mays 58:24

oh no coincidence, why that came up then, yeah, absolutely.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:29

I'm going to visualize the floor and the floor.

Heather Mays 58:34

Yeah, yeah, on the floor, yeah, exactly fun. Let me know how that goes.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:39

I will. I will, for sure. Heather, it's been a joy speaking with you as always, and if people want to connect with you now, learn more from your universe. How can they do so what are you working on right now?

Heather Mays 58:52

Oh, thanks so much. Jannecke, it's been a joy. The time always flies. When I'm talking to you, they can come to my website, Heather mays.com, M, a, y, s for the last name, and I have a class that I'm starting in January, if anyone's interested in deep diving on some of these things related to energetics and soul contracts and past lives, future lives, parallel lives, all the lives that'll be starting up soon. And I'm enrolling in that now. There are also on demand courses there. You can access my art that we talked about a little earlier there as well. Or I do personal one on one appointments, whether it's talking to you or your pets. I do both, and yeah, that that's the one place to really connect with me on anything. So I would love to hear from you.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:43

So Heather, I have a few questions that I always ask my guests, and the first one is, what is self love to you?

Heather Mays 59:50

Self love for me is releasing your judgments. We so often sit in judgment of others, yes, but if you. Really look at why you're judging another person. It's often because you are judging yourself in that same way. So when we can release that, and some of that is releasing expectation, but people find difficulty with that sometimes, as they think, should I not expect anything out of my life or out of myself? You should. You should hold yourself to a high standard, if that's what you desire, but really releasing the judgment and the negativity of yourself and understanding that we're all here on a path and we're not meant for perfection. Perfection is such an illusion. So I think that would be my answer today. Changes every day, but that one is sitting with me today about judgment

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:43

and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective,

Heather Mays 1:00:48

to find as many ways to love as possible, whether it's yourself, whether it's another, whether it's the world at large, Just really unlocking that code to love

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:00

that was profound. Thank you so much for coming back, Heather. It was a joy having you.

Heather Mays 1:01:05

Thanks for having me such a great conversation. I appreciate it so much.