Surviving The Conscious Dismantling of 2025-2027! With Dallisa Hocking

Dallisa Hocking 0:00

I was in bed getting ready to go to sleep, and I heard my spirit team say, Where's your stun gun? Because I was traveling with this stun gun, because I was traveling by myself. And then I heard my spirit team say, you're going to need it tonight. You're gonna you're you'll have a break in. Oh, wow. And a few hours later, a man barged into the front door of the Airbnb that I was staying at

Jannecke Øinæs 0:22

to get real. Here we have war and horrible things happen, and innocent people, how are they taken care of when they die?

Speaker 1 0:30

Some of the most horrifying things that I've seen when channeling is those that have lifetimes where they have war or disease, those often are very advanced souls, as we all do. We come here for evolution and growth. And those souls understand, before they come into earth that it is a temporary lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:56

And now we're moving towards 2026 Have you received any knowledge about what to expect.

Dallisa Hocking 1:02

the money system is going to be changing drastically, and they've shown me digital system for that. Even in the United States, I've been shown several times that the dollar, our currency, has no value, none. I think we're going to be living a lot longer because of all the advancements we're going to be making with our own healthcare. So that is one of the positives. The early 2030s I think our lives are going to look much different, our day to day lives than what they look like right now.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:40

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Dallisa Hocking 1:58

Thank you so much for having me. I'm looking forward to our conversation today.

Jannecke Øinæs 2:02

Me too. I'm excited to get to know your story and your unique abilities, because you are a fifth generational psychic medium, clairvoyant, clairsentient. You have all the clairs, and you're also an astrologer, and you're really helping people transform their lives and understand how they also have psychic gifts. And then also you are known for your bold predictions that are often very accurate. And maybe we'll get into that as well, because I really find that topic of predictions really interesting. But before we dive into it all, tell us a little bit about yourself, and when you actually started to notice that you were psychic as your foremothers or grandmothers or people in your family, and when you started to really believe that this is true, it's not me just making it up.

Dallisa Hocking 2:54

Such a great question. This was not what I had planned for my life. I didn't think I would be a psychic medium. I was actually operating a company that I had started years ago where I was a matchmaker, and I was planning dating events in different parts of the United States. And I was quite literally minding my own business, and I decided to go to New York to go to a workshop at the Omega Institute, and I'm sure a lot of your audience will be aware of that in New York State, and attended this workshop on synchronicity. My life cannot be more ironic. And on that trip, the very last night, I was staying at a friend's house in New York in the middle of the woods, and his aunt had unfortunately died just hours before and unexpectedly. And as I was sleeping in his house that night, she came through, and I could see her in my dream state. I had never met her before, and I could see what her hair her facial features look like, and I was hearing from her telepathically that she wanted her nephew to know that she had made it to the other side and that she was okay. And so the next morning, you know, at my friend's house, I go out to the kitchen. I said, Hey, your aunt, Barbara came to me last night, and she's okay. She wants you to know she made it to the other side. And you know, he looked at me with this very straight face, very like somber, serious look. He said, Well, what did she look like? And I described her hair, and what I could see of her face and how her hair fell around her shoulders, and he's like, that's her. I know that's her. And so a few days later, he ends up sending me a photo from her funeral service, and the photo that was on display was actually exactly as I had seen her just a couple of nights before. When she had come through. And so that got me really curious. You know, if aunt Barbara, who I'd never met, didn't know anything about, could get through, who else has been trying to knock at the door and get me to hear something or deliver a message? And so that's what actually started everything. But my grandmother could see full body apparitions with her physical eyes in her home. And she would tell me stories about how her grandmother could do the same thing on the farm, you know, generations before, and so it's been in my family for a long time, the ability to see spirits and make predictions. My grandmother would call it her, ESP, her nickname for me was LISI. And so she'd say, Lisi, I'm getting an ESP, you know, extra sensory perception, I'm getting this prediction. And so we would often sit in her living room and talk about what she was saying and experiencing. And so it's very common for us to sit there and talk about it. And then all those years later in New York, all that unfolded with Aunt Barbara coming through, and that's what started it. So I ended up really working with the energy and and learning how to just naturally channel and bring forward information. But that's where it all started.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:18

Interesting, and you said something that was also interesting, that she said she made it to the other side. And then I got curious right there. Okay, she made it. Is it something to make, to to have happen, and does that imply that someone is not making it to the other side?

Dallisa Hocking 6:38

I love that question, and it's not one I often get, but I've had several experiences over the years. I've been doing this work professionally now for a decade, and I've had experiences where I've walked or invited spirits that are in a physical location to the other side. So some spirits either by choice or by confusion. They are still what I would call like in the earth frequency, the earth dimension. And I've been able to ask them, you know, do you want me? Do you want me to help you, along with Archangel Michael, to move over to the other side? And sometimes they say no, quite frankly, some are attached to a space. Maybe they feel like the work on Earth isn't quite done yet, and so, you know that's not up to me to force them to go. But I have had, there's one instance that comes to mind where there was a gentleman who was unfortunately murdered, and in that location, he was still there. He hadn't realized what had happened to him, and so I went into that physical space, and he came right up to me and asked, you know what's going on? And it was in that moment that I could open up a portal of white light above where it had happened. And I explained to him what had happened to him, and in that moment, I could see friends and family come through that white light. I opened and greet him and help, basically hold his hand as he made his transition over to the other side. So in most cases, everyone we've loved has moved over to the other side. There's still a lot of healing that may need to happen once they cross over. If, if there was a lot of unhealed emotions or trauma in their last incarnation here on Earth, they might have to go back to the other side and heal on that. But for the most part, spirits do cross over. But on occasion, you know, people like me or those that are sensitive to energy may feel someone that is still on Earth, that that may want to cross over to the other side.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:51

And it's fascinating that you say is still on Earth, because obviously they're not in their physical body. And many of us have seen and watch the movie ghosts. And we know of the concept of ghosts. However, many of us do not understand. What does that really mean? Are we speaking about different dimensions here? The other side? What is that? Is that then the higher dimensions? So what is your perspective on where we do go if we linger around Earth, and what then is the other side compared to that?

Dallisa Hocking 9:29

Yes, I think it's a frequency. I think Earth has a specific frequency of vibration, and I feel that other locations, such as the other side, is a different frequency. So I feel that we are in the place that we are vibrating at. And so, for example, as a psychic medium, I feel that it's a frequency that I am adjusting in my own body, in my brain, maybe even my pineal gland. And my heart chakra, I'm aligning that to a different frequency, and that frequency is where our loved ones go, people and animals, and being able to connect into that frequency. And so if someone is on Earth still that would say to me that their energy is still vibrating at Earth's frequency, and once they've decided or they have moved over to the other side, it's basically their energy going through like a retuning, where they're now vibrating differently. And so I think that, based on my experiences, that there's even different dimensions, and not just, you know, here on Earth and the other side, I think there's more involved and more places that energy can go. And whether that's other planets or, you know, different galactic spaces, just think that there's a lot of places that energy can travel to, but for the most part, for the earth school experience, which I refer to as an advanced classroom. I think that we're either here or we're in what we refer to as the other side, or heaven, some people will call it, but I think these are the main two that we go between.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:17

Do you see a difference between people who linger, who might be have or religion wise, and whether they believe in the afterlife or not, like is it a factor to believe in an afterlife, and thus it's easier to cross over? And if you're an atheist, you perhaps are more connected to Earth. Or is that not the case.

Dallisa Hocking 11:41

I haven't quite ever thought about it connected to religion. Quite honestly, I've studied near death experiences for a long time, and had the privilege of studying with Dr Raymond Moody. He taught at the university that I went to in Las Vegas, and taught for a semester, and really got to learn all about his studies with near death experiences, and he's been one of the leading experts on studying such things. And I didn't really notice, or haven't noticed, at this point, a thread between being religious or not religious or being an atheist. I've heard stories about people that were not religious, did not believe in an afterlife. They go and have a near death experience, and then they come, come back to Earth profoundly changed. It completely changes the way they look at people and relationships and love and fear, and so I don't think that you have to be religious in order to have those kinds of experiences. I would think that perhaps if you were well versed, you know, while you were here on earth about maybe Jesus or Mother Mary or other religious figures, and you were able to cross over just more easily because you're open to it. I think open energy can attract those kinds of experiences more then perhaps you would go into the other side much easier and feeling more relaxed and more open to that. But I've been shown Jesus a few times as I have you know, been doing this work, both in sessions and also in a church, which caught me completely off guard, because I like to honor all different kinds of religions and, you know, all different kinds of positive work that religions do. But yeah, I was very, very surprised, but it's felt, as I've had him come through during these different experiences, he's more of an Ascended Master. And so I do think on the other side, we are connecting not only with angels and loved ones, but also different religious figures that we may have come across in our studies on Earth. Yeah.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:56

I mean, we do have free will after what I believe, and I guess that there can be all sorts of reasons why a soul chooses to unconsciously, unconsciously to linger. And eventually, what I've heard is that they will have help to go to the other side. But timing. There is no time on the other side, but it might take some time for some I think,

Dallisa Hocking 14:23

yes, absolutely, and there's no time over there. And I like to remind folks of that just of you know, based on what I've experienced as a psychic medium, when I have a loved one come through, they will often say, Oh, well, you know, the person you're talking to is your client. We feel they're going to be over here in a couple minutes, like we don't have a sense of this extended period of time. We're the ones here on earth that feel like it's going to take forever, you know, to get back over to the other side, where I feel like we originate from. And, you know, we think it's going to take all of these. Tears and and, you know, it's that state of grief that we're in, but on the other side, they're like, Oh yeah, you'll be over here in a minute. It's it, quite frankly, energetically speaking, feels like they are in the room next door, our loved ones that have passed. It's like they're in the next room over and when they come through during mediumship, they come directly in front of my line of vision, and I see things as a daydream. It's at clairvoyance, where it looks like it's a projection over the top of the physical Earth space, but they will come in right in front of me, and they're usually hovering a few feet off the ground, but I feel like there they could have this, this deep, profound connection to earth, because I don't feel like they're in some far off land,

Jannecke Øinæs 15:49

hmm, yeah, and that's perhaps maybe because they still have relatives or have deep connections with souls here. And you know, I'm just going to ask the basic questions, how is an everyday, everyday for you? How is a day for you in your life? Like being a psychic medium, I've watched The Sixth Sense movie, you know, I see dead people or that is it like that, that you're all of a sudden bombarded by souls who died in an accident and they want to connect with their loved ones, and they come at all times, in during the day. Or is it something you turn off and turn on?

Dallisa Hocking 16:32

I have a switch. Basically. It's the best way to describe it, where I turn the frequency on or off. I can adjust my frequency to get into that higher realm pretty easily, you know, because I've been doing this for so long, so they don't come in and bombard me. And it's actually hard for me to see my own life or things that's going that will be happening for me, not as clearly as I can see them for other people, right? It's hard to see the picture when you're the frame. I'm too close to it, but I do get, like, intuitive hits that'll come, you know, around things that have to do with me. There's a couple of examples that come to mind. One just happened that, you know, yesterday or the day before, where my mother and I were at an amusement park and we were riding on a roller coaster, and we both get off of the roller coaster, and we look at each other, and we go, we need to leave. Something is going to happen with this ride. Like we felt like the roller coaster was going to have this issue. And then within a few days, there's these reports that come out about the amusement park, and two of the rides had had issues right after my mother and I had these like psychic downloads, so something like that, where I could potentially be in danger. I'll usually get a heads up about that from my my spirit team of angels, guides and ancestors. I've also had crime premonitions over the years. There's like an example of that is, I was staying in Idaho at an Airbnb, and I was in bed getting ready to go to sleep, and I heard my spirit team say, Where's your stun gun? Because I was traveling with the stun gun, because I was traveling by myself. And I thought, well, yeah, it's over there, you know? And I remember thinking, yeah, I could reach it. It was kind of the strange premonition that was coming in. And then I heard my spirit team say, you're going to need it tonight. You're gonna you're you'll have a break in. And so I don't know how I fell asleep, but I managed to fall asleep. And a few hours later, a man barged into the front door of the Airbnb that I was staying at, and I flew out of bed and screamed, and thankfully, he ran off. But had I not had that heads up about the person that was going to break through the front door, I think I would have been much more scared. Who knows what would have happened. But because I had that forewarning, I think I was prepared in a way, to to deal with it. But, yeah, there's been a few instances where I've had premonitions about crimes right before they happen.

Jannecke Øinæs 19:31

And can it be like you're walking in the shopping mall and you'll see spirits or ghosts, and you don't know what is real people and what are what is spirit?

Dallisa Hocking 19:41

Yes, I remember there was one crime right before it happened, I was in a grocery store with my mother, and a prime example of what you just mentioned, I had been feeling the strange energy around the grocery store, and it happened on Halloween in Las Vegas, and I never go. Grocery shopping with my mom. It's not something we typically do together, but she invited me, and I said, okay, yeah, sure, I'll go. And I started feeling really eerie and scary within the store. And I thought, well, it's Halloween. Maybe it's just that. And then I started getting those Daydream like mini movie visions once, where I was in the back of that grocery store and I heard spirit and like people yelling and like screaming out the back of the door, but it's all psychically and then we're walking through the store, and we're in an aisle, and I start hearing these men fighting. And I turned to my mom, and I said, Do you hear that? And she goes, No, I don't, I don't hear anything. And so, you know, she's like, we got to get out of here. There's obviously something happening, because you're getting all these psychic downloads and visions. And so we get our groceries, we get out to the car, and the next day, nothing happens, right? So the next day, my mom goes to get her hair done at the hairstylist the salon, and they said, Oh, did you hear about that fight at the store? And the two men that like were fighting inside, and one brought a gun in, and everybody started running towards the back of the store, and we checked the receipt from the grocery store, and I was getting the downloads right before it happened at the grocery store that it took place at. And even more ironic or strange is the store that my mom and I were at was down the road from the store what was actually happening at, so I wasn't even in the physical store where this ended up happening just minutes later, but I still was getting all of these impressions of what was happening, because the emotions, I'm sure, of the people that were scared, were already imprinted, and so I was just picking up on that.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:57

And this really, really begs the question like, Why do you think you receive certain information and not other kinds of information? Is that something you've been thinking about? Like, why do I know that but not that, which is also significant?

Dallisa Hocking 22:14

I wonder if it has something to do with soul contracts or past life memories, because I have one sibling, and that sibling works in law enforcement, so I'm getting the psychic downloads of the crimes, and my my sibling is looking at it from a very logical, more science based approach of solving crimes. And, yeah, I think it would be fascinating if, if we collaborated on a project in the future where I'm looking at it from one side of it, and they're looking at it from the other side, so that we're approaching both scientific and psychic awareness, so there could be some connection there. That's more of like a family contract or past life that we've done together. But yeah, it's interesting that we both have that interest of working with crimes. And astrologically speaking, I do have a few things that are, you know, in Libra in my chart, and so I feel like I'm just naturally drawn to the justice system and what's right or what's fair, so I think I'm just probably more interested in it than some people would be.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:32

Yeah, that makes sense. And speaking of predictions, I would love to hear some of the predictions that you made that actually came true. And also some reflections about you know, How helpful is it with predictions? Like there is a paradox there. In one way, it's helpful. We can prepare for something, we can make other choices, but then we can also move into fear. So please share your perspective on that. And also, I think, I think I read that you predicted covid, didn't you?

Dallisa Hocking 24:09

Yes, I owned a spiritual center in Las Vegas, and I had several people remind me, after everything with covid happened, that in 2019 I kept talking about it so after numerous conversations, because I don't remember my predictions or channeling afterwards, but enough people said, Oh yeah, well, you told me this and that in 2019 and so basically, what I was getting then was that we were going to face some big health crisis and that it would change our lives forever. I remember really learning about like natural oils and how to use different therapeutic grade oils to help raise your frequency. And to help with, you know, things that were happening with your physical body, and getting really, really interested in them in 2019 because I remember thinking, Wow, all of us are going to need things at home that can help us to be more healthy. I knew that there was going to be, like, supply chain issues. It was going to be harder to get some of the supplies that we needed. And then, of course, you know, everything happens with 2020, and changed everything. Even I had a 90 minute psychic stage show in Las Vegas. And, you know, all of the entertainment industry closed down. So it changed, you know, not only my life, but everyone's life, in a way, right? So, yeah, that was 2019 I also, earlier this year, had a dream, and it's not typically that I'll get premonitions and dreams, but sometimes they do happen, and I remember waking up out of the dream, and I made a 62nd Reel for Instagram and Facebook where I was in my pajamas, no makeup on, and I just knew I had to say out loud what it was that I had dreamt. And anybody can find this on my social media where I talked about an airplane and a helicopter and a crash, and then it was just a couple of days later that there was the just tragic helicopter airplane crash that happened in Washington, DC. So I had seen that just a couple of days before it happened, and that's always, you know, a mixed reaction I have when I get a premonition that's that sad, that has that much emotion connected to it. And you know, it hasn't happened yet, and so I'm talking freely about it, and then it does. And then, you know, you hear all of these stories about the people that were on board of the helicopter and the airplane and just how tragic, you know, it all was. And that goes back to your point about fear. And you know, what are we doing with predictions? I think that predictions are fascinating. You know, I have friends that are also psychics and mediums and channelers, and I love asking them, like, are you getting the same thing I'm getting? And so we compare notes, just out of curiosity. But I do think that anyone that's listening to predictions of things that are happening or coming up, you know, and if you feel like you're you're tied or connected into that, and you feel like you're in fear, you feel afraid, maybe take a step back from it, you know, maybe some journaling, some meditation, some walks in nature could help, just to bring you back into feeling more in balance within yourself, more more harmony, more joy. Because I do think what we pay attention to matters, and I think the next couple of years, we're going to have a lot of massive, massive change. And for some people, they hear that and they they don't want to have anything to do with it. They just want life to be how it is today. And then there's other people like myself, where I'm like, Woohoo, yeah, change. Let's do this. So I think it depends. You know, everybody's a little bit different, and so if you can engage with it in a curious way, and maybe it gets you asking bigger questions about your own life and what you want to do next, then great. That sounds great. A great way to use predictions. But if you just feel like you listen to it and you feel worse after, then maybe be a little bit more selective of who you're getting predictions from, or take a little bit of a break from it and see how it feels when you're when you're not listening to them as often.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:57

And do you think you receive those dreams and those premonitions from spirit because you are going to share it, or is it, rather that you're just tapping in to what's going on there, because you have those abilities, and it's a free choice what to do with it.

Dallisa Hocking 29:15

I love that question. I have to go back to my astrology chart, I think, for a moment, for a clue. So I have my north node in Leo, in the third house of communications. So I do think that I am here to not only be able to receive psychic information, but I think I meant to share it. I think I meant to communicate it in a bigger way. And so I think part of that agreement with spirit, universe, Source Energy is, oh, well, we'll tell de Lisa, because she'll, she'll tell everybody else, right? I think even by sharing those messages like the one where I made the video a couple of days before that crash. You know, I like I said, it's a very sad, tragic event. I. Yeah, but I think there are a lot of people that also were reminded in that moment, like, wow, predictions are real. You know, there is information that we can get ahead of time. So I think it's not only about the specific prediction that I make, but I think it's also about reminding us that there's much more out there that we can connect with, that we can't necessarily always see with our standard senses of sight and hearing and and all of that. So I think part of it is also reminding people of of the power that they hold within themselves.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:37

Hmm. And then when I think about predictions, you know, I get this picture in my head with this crystal ball and like, this woman sitting with it, and like, Oh, something bad is going to happen. Like that is, like the classical picture. And even though I've done all this work, it still drops into my mind sometimes this picture, but it also begs the question, like, do you receive negative information when you do psychic readings? And can you predict, like, when a person is going to pass? Or is that information you're not receiving or not sharing? Because I could imagine that could be really detrimental for a soul to hear that

Dallisa Hocking 31:18

my intention is to always leave somebody better than how they came in. A lot of my work this these days are done online, and so we're connecting over, over the computer, over video, and even just off on a tangent for a moment. A lot of people will ask me, Well, how can you make predictions if we're not even in the same room, and it it works. You know, Energy is everywhere. When I first started, I only was doing readings over the phone, and I didn't see the person. I didn't know what they look like in most cases, and I couldn't see their facial expressions. Yet, the predictions were, were accurate. So energy is everywhere. So a lot of the people that I connect with at some point, you know, they they may ask me, am I going to live a long life? You know, is, is my my mother, my father going to be around a lot longer? I don't usually hear from spirit like, oh yeah. You know, next Tuesday is the day like but what I am shown a lot of the time is what looks like a battery, you know, and you can think of it as like the top of your cell phone, where it has your battery meter, and you can see how much battery you have left on your cell phone. So spirit shows me that battery, and shows me how much energy is left in that battery. So I can see if somebody is closer to making their transition, or I can say, wow, like their battery is really full, like they have no intention of leaving just yet. But ultimately, what it comes down to is the relationship between that soul of that person and God universe, and what that timing is and when they're going to make that transition. I do think most of us have several exit points off of this incarnation. I kind of think of it as like driving down a highway and you can take the exit and you can leave Earth skull and go back to the other side. Or you can say, you know, I think I'm going to skip it this time. Let's keep driving, and maybe I'll take the next one. But I do think that there are exit points pre plotted before we're born. And so that's always interesting to look at with somebody who maybe had a tragic accident, but they're still alive. Or they think about a time where, wow, I really could have died there, but they're still here. But then that also begs the question, well, why did someone take the exit point? Why did they leave? You know, we loved them. I didn't want them to go. Why did they and I think it goes back to something I was saying earlier about how we don't really have a sense of time over there, and they often go to the other side, and they're met with such unconditional love, and they're connecting with friends and family they haven't seen in a long time, and they feel at home in a way that we Really can't replicate that much here on Earth. And often they're shown, okay, well, if you go back to Earth, you know, here's what could happen as a result, and maybe it's that you're paralyzed or you're in a coma. And some spirits say, you know, I think I'm just going to stay on the other side. I'll meet up with them. My friends and family that are still on earth will be here in a minute. And so it's not personal. It's not that they didn't love you. It's just they feel like, okay, well, I know now that we're all going to be reunited here soon, and I don't necessarily want to go back into my earth body that would be severely damaged, and maybe I wouldn't be able to to walk. Uh, or I'd have severe health issues that would make me, you know, relying upon other people, and I don't want to put that burden on people. There's all different kinds of things that go into that decision, and it's based on the individual and and and what's happening with their life at that time, or what's happening with their their transition on the other side. But I think it's based on the individual, really the specifics of it.

Jannecke Øinæs 35:27

And is it the soul's choice when to go? So it's solely my choice, like my relationship with God, like you said, in the universe, and my soul when to go?

Dallisa Hocking 35:38

Yeah, I think it's really up to that. I think it's up to your soul and the universe. I think there's more people than maybe we talk about that already feel that an end is coming, or they get a sense that something just isn't feeling right in their life, and they feel like something big is around the corner. I've heard many, many stories over the years where that's been happening, and even in my own family, I remember my grandfather getting close to making his transition. And you know, everybody around knew that that he was going to be passing away soon. They felt it, but he actually left his physical body before he died and went astral traveling, and so his soul was visiting different friends and family on earth before his physical body passed away, before he fully made his transition. And I even will see that sometimes with people that have Alzheimer's or dementia, they will start moving out of their body and traveling around different places on Earth, or even going back to the other side and checking in on the other side before they leave their physical body. It's like, oh yeah. Let me remember where I'm going to. Let me go check and see how everything are they ready for me, you know? So I don't think it's, it's always like, Okay, I'm alive, and then I'm not alive. I think there's a lot of variables in there, but lot of people I've just learned over the years can sense that there's a big change coming before it does.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:20

Yeah, yeah. I've heard those stories too, that people who are sick, people in our family that had cancer, just said that. Or I remember the story of this woman saying, I'm going to fly through the roof tonight. And her husband was like, but you can't fly through the roof. Well, then I'll fly through the window. I'm going to go today like she knew. And there has been so many other stories where sick people are speaking about seeing angels and their loved ones, like they're becoming ready to transition into that other realm. And I think that's really beautiful. So it's not that shock. So that's sweet and nice, you know, for those who have those experience. But to get real here, not all people are experiencing that. And we have war and horrible things happen, and that's something I find so difficult to think about. The wars we're experiencing, children who are dying. You know, innocent people. How are they taken care of when they die?

Dallisa Hocking 38:26

Oh, yeah, some of the most horrifying things that I've seen when channeling one of the things that has come forward multiple times is those that have lifetimes where they have, you know, war or famine, disease, that those often are very advanced souls that come to earth as as we all do. We come here for evolution and growth. And those souls understand before they come into earth that it is a temporary lifetime, and then once it's done, they'll they'll go back to the other side. And so when we're planning out our lifetime, we don't have a deep emotional connection to what it is that we are selecting for the lifetime. It's more okay. Well, what have I not learned yet that I really want to learn from an evolution perspective, and it's, you know, there's so much on Earth school that is so negative and so heavy, and I feel, you know, how do I, you know, talk about this in a way that is still sensitive and and honoring all of the people that are going through so much right now, because it's so heavy. Bless you. So I would say there. Advanced souls. But I also think there's something in that lifetime that they signed up to learn. And I like to see our lives journey as a classroom. And so, you know, I talk to a lot of people, and I hear all the time, oh, well, I don't have a good relationship, let's say, with my dad, or I don't have a great relationship with my sibling, you know. And I think part of what we signed up to learn was how to navigate those relationships, and we typically will do lifetime after lifetime with the same souls, but changing roles for each other. But I think everyone has their own set of challenges, but some obviously a lot more tragic than others, and I'm often asked, Well, why would a child decide to get cancer and pass away as an example, and what I've been shown from spirit time and time again is that that child is a very advanced soul, and it wasn't always so much for them to come in and have that Experience of cancer, but it's more about the ripple that they then created while they were alive, that the other members of their friends and family, what they then have to deal with and and that healing and that growth and evolution. And I know how that sounds, and it may sound insensitive or harsh, but that's really what's been shown to me, is, is that this is temporary, and it's for our growth, and we don't have that emotional attachment to what we're selecting. It's more okay, well, let's do this together. Okay, let's do it. Let's go in, and then we go back and and we decide what we're what we're going to do next, whether that's incarnate, stay on the other side, you know, heal over there, there's, you know, a few different options that I've been shown of what happens after we pass. But yeah, this is one of the most advanced classrooms we could have selected. So even being here is a huge deal when it comes to our overall growth.

Jannecke Øinæs 42:27

I mean to me, that makes much more sense than there's no meaning with anything. Like a child can just die. There's no meaning like that. I just cannot take that in, because then I lose faith in everything, like there has to be a deeper meaning. So this is why this makes so much sense to me. Now, I bet people are a bit curious, since you are a psychic, what we can expect moving forward, and many believe we are in a big shift of consciousness. I believe that you probably do as well, and that 2025 was pretty chaotic and transformational, and now we're moving towards 2026 Have you received any knowledge about what to expect?

Dallisa Hocking 43:12

Yes, I don't think we'll be done with the upheaval of 2025 I think that continues into 2627 I think we're going to have a few have a few years where things will be reorganized, but before we can reorganize, I think it's part of the bigger dismantling time and time again. Spirit has shown me the tower card in Tarot. And anybody familiar with the tower card, it's the illustration of a tower that's on fire and people are jumping off of the tower. And with that card, I don't mind that card, but again, I'm also the one that's like, Oh, we're going to change a lot. Great. Let's do it. So the tower card, for me, stands for things that have been around, the structures that we've had, that they are crumbling, that they are burning to the ground, symbolically, and from those ashes, then we will rebuild what we want to rebuild. It's the phoenix rising. So there's always that other side of the equation with the tower card. It's not just about the fire and everything changing, but what we do afterwards, because everything I've looked at so this can be the education system, healthcare, real estate, our finances. It to me when I channel everything looks like it's changing. I don't think that there's any part of our life that really, really remains the same, except really, except for the connections we have with the people we love. So that I feel is going to be our foundation. That's going to be, you know, what we can always go back to and how. Having those relationships are going to be one of the most valuable things that we have in our life. I do feel that the money system is going to be changing drastically, and they've shown me digital system for that. And even in the United States, I've been shown several times that the dollar, our currency has no value, none and that there's going to be this major shift over into a different kind of currency that we can use to purchase things, but that it will feel much more aligned with artificial intelligence and technology, which some people will rebel against, and some people will want to use as like this futuristic way of of commerce. But I do think that there will be a lot more power going back to individuals, but also into our own communities. It feels like local government feels a lot more important all over the world than major presidential leaders or leaders of different countries. It feels more like where you live, who you live by. Do you know your neighbors? Do you know where to get food in your local community? Those feel like the bigger things that we need to lean into that will become increasingly more important. I think there'll be even more people that will be interested in local politics. I'll use that word where they're not necessarily an elected official, but they're creating more grassroots groups, grassroots initiatives to help their local communities. So I think we're going to be seeing more and more power going back to our everyday life and and who are around and what our community is doing, rather than the power being at the top of a pyramid of the country feels like the pyramid gets flipped and and the individuals, the citizens of each country, actually start running more and more of it. I do think we'll have a lot of changes with healthcare, as I mentioned more specifically, I think with our cures, what we're going to be doing with different diseases and our ability to really cure a lot of different ailments that have been plaguing people for a really long time. So I think that's one of the upsides of artificial intelligence, is that, like I'm even, as I'm saying this, I'm seeing in my mind's eye, like this coding, where it feels like there's a sequence put into artificial intelligence. This is my very non scientific, non Doctor way of explaining it, but it's as if we're putting some kind of sequence of a disease into artificial intelligence and then it like spits out what the new sequence is of how to cure it. So think we're going to be living a lot longer because of all the advancements we're going to be making with our own healthcare. So that is one of the positives. But I do think that education is also going to be coming back more and more to the individual and the family unit. I think college degrees, university degrees, will be less and less popular, that more and more people will not be going to college, and that the new norm will be people working for themselves that will have a strong connection to technology and AI, and with that also that there will be a complete shift in dismantling around work, how We make money and what we are able to provide for ourselves and for our families and for our community. So for example, I think there'll be more people that are leaving their corporate jobs that they have right now, and they'll be going more into a trade. So something like a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, I think the trades will become a lot more popular because they're good jobs and they're in demand because other corporate type jobs will go away more and more in the next couple of years. So those are some examples of where we're headed, but I think that by the time we get to I'm hearing in my ear from spirit right now, the early 2030s I think our lives are going to look much different our day to day lives by then, so less than 10 years than what they look like right now. So I'm feeling the like seven years, which is fascinating to me, because knowing a little bit about astrology. D that also aligns with Uranus being in Gemini. And I think that could be a part of this shift and things changing in unexpected, radical ways.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:14

Interesting. Yes, I've heard exactly the same thing, and which is a comfort, in a way, and I've interviewed several astrologers were pointing to the same years, especially 2032 but 2030 something is really going to shift, or have shifted already. But this really demands that we'll have different leaders in the world, because now we do see that pyramid, we do see the wars, and it's more chaotic than ever. It just feels like very heated right now. So I don't sort of picture how this is all going to change externally. Like, how is it going to change? Does it take a big revolution from you know, the ground and people are going to demand change, or will it like, naturally dissolve? Like, I can't really picture how this is all going to happen, because I assume those in power will lead, will really cling and hold on to power.

Dallisa Hocking 51:13

Yeah, I think of it like a dartboard. That's what spirit's showing me right now, in my mind's eye is this dartboard, and you have all these little darts, and all of darts stand for different things that will be changing, and so as you're throwing all of them at the dartboard, it is going to create that, that shift, that momentum, because with enough darts being thrown or changed, that creates that momentum. I do think with Pluto and Aquarius, that will be there for quite some time that that's going to be part of that energy, that shift of back, I think it's going to be back to the people, back to the local communities, and that's also, you know, Gemini Uranus and Gemini. So I think that there will be more of the revolution from the people fighting, from the people demanding things change. You know, we didn't even touch on war yet, but I do feel like there is going to be an escalation in war. And I will often look at some of the news headlines, understanding that we're not getting the full story, but I'll take a look at a news headline about a war that's happening. And maybe there's a news headline that comes out that say, oh, there's, you know, this, this peace agreement. And they're, they're shaking hands, and everything's going to be fine. And then I will look at it psychically and channel about it, and hear, no, they're not this, this peace deal isn't going to stick. You know, there's going to be an increase in war. So I do think that between 2025 and 2026 we will see an escalation of physical war. But I also, as I'm saying this to you, I'm channeling in a reminder of something I've seen before, which is an increase in different types of cyber attacks. So it wouldn't surprise me if we start experiencing more around internet outages, power outages, more wide scale. And so I think that some of those different things right? Because if a large section of the world loses power or loses the internet, that will drastically change that section of the world, which then has a ripple effect in all of the other places on the world, because we are all connected, and we are all one energy. And so what happens to a large group of people will ultimately end up affecting many, many more. But I do think it's many of those dots, right? People losing their jobs if they don't have enough money, where are they finding food? Are they going to take a different kind of job? Universal Basic Income, I think, is going to be a big topic of conversation. And who gets what money, and what does that mean? So I think people that are really identifying themselves and their own personal value as something connected to the money they make or the job or the title that they have, I think a lot of those individuals will have challenges in these next couple of years and what that looks like. And so I think it's getting us back to basics, getting us back into our home and our loved ones and our local communities, and frankly, helping each other out. Because I know that some people will listen to this and go, Oh, great, everything's falling apart. This is This is horrible, but I think that this is just the dismantling, because then I think that Phoenix rises out of the ashes, and we we decide, as a world, and the people that that inhabit the world, what are we going to do next, and what are we going to build next? So this dismantling phase doesn't last forever, but I do think it could look pretty bleak. It could look dark for a while. I. But it's not going to stay there. And so I think a lot of people just need to hear like we're not going to be in that, that drastic period of change for forever. But I do think that we all decided as souls that we wanted to be alive right now, specifically right now, because of what we are going to witness. Because there's many, many people that have lived lifetimes in different decades that won't or hadn't seen a fraction of what we're going to be seeing and experiencing. So I think my reminder would be, don't get sucked into the movie of what this incarnation is, but instead, try to approach it with curiosity and like, wow. Okay, well, this isn't going to be here anymore, or this is changing over here. Well, that means that there's going to be something rebuilt or redesigned, and that could be really interesting. And I'm just happy to be alive and happy to be surrounded with with my loved ones here on Earth, and I'm going to make the best of it,

Jannecke Øinæs 55:58

hmm, and I've heard you spoke about Star Beings in another video. And I'm thinking, once we have that disclosure for sure, I mean, there's got to be changes, because that changes how humans are looking at themselves and their role in the universe. What is the knowledge you've received about that?

Dallisa Hocking 56:20

Yes, that we will have disclosure about galactic beings. They're already here. I believe that we have many of them that are living in the oceans. There are more that are going into mountains and different parts of the world. They've been, you know, using our energy sources for a while. Whenever I channel on, you know, what's that UFO doing over there behind the mountain? And why am I seeing all these like flashes of light? Usually, it has something to do with energy that they're soaking up. And I know people personally that have had UFO sightings. Frankly, families that are psychic tend to have more UFO experiences, and I think that there is some kind of energy or light that I am emitting that UFOs, galactic beings can sense or see. You know, my grandmother used to have a lot of sightings of craft, and I think that they knew that she was psychic. And I have another close family member that has seen many, many UFOs. I have one other one who has lost time, and so we know that that is a signature for, you know, engaging in some way with a craft and beings. So I've just been around it so much that it's like second nature to me, and something that just seems somewhat normal. Galactic beings have stepped in during sessions that I've done with clients and said that they're there to help. And I think with the way we look at humans, there's some humans that are, you know, really joyful and helpful and compassionate, and there's other humans that are not, and they're at the the other end of the the energy spectrum. Maybe they're angry, or they're they're, you know, they have a lot of rage or shame or guilt, and those are those heavier energies. So just like with humans, galactic beings have shown me that they're the same, that there are some that are really helpful and that want to see the best for us, and then there are some that aren't so helpful. So I think discernment will be really key, because we will start seeing more information on mainstream news. But I would also encourage people, you know, check in with your favorite psychic or Channeler or YouTube show and and see what they're getting and what they're saying. I would try to look at it from all angles, because I do think that a lot of the narrative in today's world is based on fear, and the more people that are in fear, the more control the powers that be have. And so if you're watching a lot of mainstream news and you're feeling really afraid, I would just say, Well, check on the other folks that are doing the channeling and the energy work and see what they're getting to help paint more of the picture. But I do think we're going to see more of it in the next few years that will be undeniable, which I think will also shake a lot of organized religions to the core, yeah, about, well, how can we have aliens and Jesus and like, how does this all work together? And it does it all works together. But I think it takes someone's willingness to learn about themselves and spirituality and energy and how that all works together to have a better understanding, because some people may just lose faith in everything, but in reality, everything can be true.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:50

Yeah, the big picture is pretty big. We have a few minutes left, and I would love to have some chat. Channeling, if you would like that. Yes, see if there's any messages that you know for the audience today.

Dallisa Hocking 1:00:07

Yeah, let's, let's tune in and see what spirit would like to say. So I'm just going to close my eyes here for a moment and get my energy to the right frequency, and then we'll see what they want to say. Okay,

Dallisa Hocking 1:00:32

we ask that you hold out your hand to your neighbors. There will be many people distraught, sad and lost. But if you are hearing this message from us today, it means that you are prepared and ready to lend a hand, things will get shaky, the Earth will rumble. It may look as if everything that you have come to know is changing form. What you are used to seeing on a map or on a documentary a news story will change in the way that it looks. It may be challenging to look at the world in the same way memories that you have had as a younger person connected to different places, different locations, memories, love, those will be tied to places that will change in the way that they look. We are moving into a frequency with humans, where they are more connected to their hearts, their consciousness, their ability to use telepathy as a main way of communicating with each other, and in that process, the walls and things around You will shift, will dissolve, but we are creating in humans this ability to access higher consciousness easily, to connect with each other, heart to heart, to think of information without ever picking up a telephone or sending an email. So perhaps some of you will think that your life is changing or going away, and for some it will be drastic change. But while we are shifting the frequency of Earth, you will have the opportunity to step into these higher timelines, these higher energies, if you so choose, as it will be your choice, and if you decide to not be on earth or participate in these higher frequencies, you can return to the other side or go to another dimension that matches your frequency. But this will be your choice, but many of you will be excited at the opportunity to increase your own personal frequency and to be be connected to all that is. Many of you are ready. And so if you are hearing this, you are here as part of your soul mission to help other people around you, don't be afraid. Lean into your faith that all is well as it is, all is well.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:22

All right, so things are going to get challenging, but it's good to you know, understand why they're getting challenging. You know, without these channelings, we wouldn't know the heck was going on, right? Yeah, so, yeah, that's so helpful. Yeah, and who did you channel there?

Dallisa Hocking 1:04:45

I channel my spirit team. So it's angels, it's guides, it's ancestors, like my grandmother, my great great grandmother. Sometimes galactic energy will come in, and I did feel a little bit of that as I'm channeling. I. So, yeah, I just refer to them collectively as my spirit team.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:04

Well, I can go on and speak with you for hours. However, we need to wrap this up, and I would love to hear about your work. If people want to connect with you, I know you have a course or something like that that you might want to share about today.

Dallisa Hocking 1:05:20

Yes, all of my work is over at spiritandspark.com all spelled out spiritandspark.com all of my information classes that I'm teaching and where to connect with me on social media if you want to see some of these predictions that I'm making, yeah, and maybe I'll be in my pajamas with no makeup on, but hey, that's how it goes sometimes, but I'd love to connect with everybody. And yes, for your audience, we are doing a really cool thing, which is, I've taught a class called Angel messages and numbers, and it's where I'm taking the energy and the frequency of numbers that we see. So I know a lot of people will see like 1111, or 2233 is like, what are those mean? How do we work with angels and know that angels are communicating with us, and so that class, we're offering 50% off when they use the coupon code in the coupon code as W, F, N, and I know you'll, you'll share that link with everybody, and the first 100 people to enroll in the class, they'll also score a special invitation where we're going to jump on Zoom and I'm going to do more channeling and more predictions. And so that's for the first 100 people. And it's just it's something fun. I love connecting with people from all over the world, so I'm looking forward to it

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:39

lovely. And I'll put the link somewhere here in the video description. Now, Delisa, I have a few questions I ask all my guests, and I didn't get to ask you about this today, but I know it is a big topic for you, and it is a big topic for me, so you might share a little bit now. But what is self love to you?

Dallisa Hocking 1:07:01

Self love is choosing you, choosing yourself. And the example that comes forward for that is, if you're somebody that's an over giver, which I have done for a long time, the question I ask myself is, what do I want? Because I think a lot of the times we do what other people might want from us, but I think a real act of self love is asking what you want and then honoring that inside of yourself,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:33

powerful and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective,

Dallisa Hocking 1:07:38

deeper meaning of life is to learn things that you can't learn. On the other side, that that we come here to learn these lessons that only a human body on Earth can learn. And so for me, it's an advanced classroom, and that is the meaning of life, to soak it all in and learn as much as you can about yourself, about other people, and about real, unconditional love.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:08

Thank you so much for coming to the show today, and all the best with your powerful work.

Dallisa Hocking 1:08:13

Thank you so much. It was a wonderful experience, and I hope that, and I trust that your audience received some great information out of our conversation today.