A Time of Conscious Planetary Cleansing! With Orleane and Baird Smith

Pia Orleane 0:00

You will start seeing us populate your skies, probably as early as November and December of this year, and you will begin to see fully how many of us are around and helping by spring of this 2026 do not be confused by those in governments around the world who wish to put up a false display from their military bases, pretending that things they put into your atmosphere are actually alien ships attacking humanity. This is a ridiculous idea. No one around your planet has any intention of doing anything except promoting and helping this evolutionary process. And the decision about whether we land depends on you. If you invite us, we will come.

Cullen Baird Smith 0:48

There is a schedule of humans with the possibility of evolving, and that time is right now.

Pia Orleane 0:55

This is our portal to cosmic citizenship and stepping back into that place,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:00

and that is why so many people are waking up right now.

Pia Orleane 1:04

I have the feeling that the reason this being came to us right now is because we were going to be on your show. And I think he wants to share the inner wisdom with your listeners. Volcanoes will be erupting out of your seas, earthquakes will be happening on your land. I am here to tell you, do not be afraid when the great rumble comes within three to five months of your time, it is coming.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:37

Pia Orleane and Cullen Smith, a warm welcome back to the Wisdom From North show.

Pia Orleane 1:44

Thank you. We are delighted to be with you and your audience again.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:48

We love our conversation with you last time, and we are so happy to continue that connection.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:56

I had to have you back because our last episode really hit it off, and it really resonated with so many people. It's my most watched video ever, almost a million now. And I think it resonated because you channel The Pleiadians called larkma, and larkma was so specific about the knowledge about the shift of consciousness we find ourselves in. And they also mentioned that we'll have will. We would have a big shift, especially in March 2025 and other guests have been speaking about exactly the same and I love that when the same information is coming forward, and that the Kali Yuga was ending the Dark Ages, and that now we're moving into a beautiful time, really, if we choose to, we have the choice. And today, I know you have even new knowledge about what's to come, and I want you know reveal it yet, because I would like you to share it. You've also started communicating with Inner Earth beings, like other beings, also connecting with you. But before we do that, I was thinking we can learn a little bit more about you for everyone who does not know you, because Pia, you had an academic career. You were a psychologist, and Colin, you were an anthropologist, an archeologist, and now you're doing this spiritual work. So how did that happen? And how did the Pleiadians show up in your life?

Cullen Baird Smith 3:28

That's a that is a big statement. We have so much to share about that they

Pia Orleane 3:33

they tell us that they have been with us all of this life and other lifetimes we weren't aware of how they were with us until one particular evening, when it was celebrating Colin's birthday, they turned on a short wave radio in our house at exactly the hour and minutes of his birth, and we didn't know what that was. And that particular pattern continued for several nights until we finally unplugged the shortwave radio and it still turned it on, which got our attention. And we got up and said, Okay, who are you? How can we help? And they introduce themselves. Well, that was the actual beginning

Cullen Baird Smith 4:11

we we started getting thought forms, not not audible, but just information that was coming into our consciousness, and they would say certain things, and we would look at each other and say, I just heard this wonderful piece of information, and the other one of us would say, I heard exactly the same thing.

Pia Orleane 4:37

Now, the thing that's a little different about our bringing forth our Pleiadian friends is that they require Cullen and me both to be present and talking and touching, because they use the library of our minds to get the words out, to keep any human filterization from our personalities out of the way. So whenever they come through, it takes both of us, both of us. And speak whatever they say, although they have chosen my voice as to be the voice that people get used to.

Cullen Baird Smith 5:07

Yeah, in the in the beginning, years and years ago, I spoke as much as Pia speaks now. But I think, and I think it's a little funny, actually, I think they like Pia voice better than mine, and I I tried not to get my feelings hurt, and I didn't, but, but I think it's smoother. I think P's voice is more musical or melodic, and that is how they communicate in their society. They don't speak a verbal language. They communicate with musical and mathematical tones,

Pia Orleane 5:43

heart to heart. And they also chose to have just one voice speaking, because people were when they were listening to us in public gatherings. It's sort of like watching a tennis match. They were going back and forth, not knowing who to listen to. So it works. We're happy with it. It works

Jannecke Øinæs 6:01

fascinating. And I'm thinking, when you're coming from these academic backgrounds, like, how did your colleagues, your family, maybe your friends react to you all of a sudden, having the switch to channeling, you know, it could be some reactions when they know you in one way, and then you're doing this, and not everybody's obviously open to this line of work.

Pia Orleane 6:27

Well, actually was a very positive experience when it happened to us and we started bringing it forth. We went to my university where I had graduated to a team of psychologists there, and said, We want to share something with you. And one of the people there, very famous man, doctor, Stanley kripner, he said, I want to test this out. And so he said, let's, let's have a conversation. And we said, Alright. And he asked in the conversation with many other questions, he said, By the way, I've been missing something for the last six months. Can you find it?

Cullen Baird Smith 7:03

For me, it shocked us. It shocked us that he would ask such a such a question. I mean,

Pia Orleane 7:08

he asked the question and Lark must pause for a moment and said, Get up, go into such and such a room. Look into the pocket of your sweater. You will find what you're looking for. There, he came back in just two minutes and said, I found my keys. They've been missing for six months. And in fact, he decided to write us up. We're written up in the psychological journal for expanding ways of consciousness that people should be aware of and that this was an important psychological leap. So we actually had a very good and positive transition.

Cullen Baird Smith 7:43

I think, I think that that most of our colleagues, having known us previously in our professions, already respected us and already felt that we were competent and professional, and I think they translated that into who we became. So I don't think there was a I don't think there was a distinction or a problem thinking, Well, if this is what they're doing now, it sounds pretty good to us. So I think there wasn't any particular kind of friction or or disbelief. I think it was a a seamless kind of change between our professional work and the channeling that we began to do.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:31

Well, that's good to hear. And I think it has to do also with the changes of time and that we are globally more open now, it just feels like something is happening. Because people that I know that used to be atheist or are all of a sudden like, hmm, yeah, maybe we never know, right there, they just seem more open. Maybe something they're feeling, or I believe that we're all influenced somehow by these energies coming in. And I wanted to ask you, when it comes to the Pleiadians, since they were able to find those keys, does that mean that they can answer anything, and what does that mean? Does that mean that they know everything that's going on with us that they're so highly evolved that it well to us, they're kind of gods, even though we are one, but they're they can really know everything about us.

Pia Orleane 9:33

That's a really good point. And what they tell us is they have stopped walking among humans, because humans always turn them into Gods, and they don't like that. They are trying to empower us to be able to do what they do. They're trying to empower us to be cosmic citizens. So yes, they can answer almost anything, but they're much more fond of saying, Let us help you find the answer in your own. Art, and they have magnificent success with helping people who feel blocked or want answers or want guidance, because they don't do it for them. They don't give them the answers. They said, Let us help you find it. And they proceed from helping the person, individually or in groups to give answers. They do give their perspective.

Cullen Baird Smith 10:22

Yeah, they, they, they give their perspective, which is, as you just asked, much greater than our human perspective. It's it doesn't diminish how much we know as humans, because we're much bigger than we realize we are. We are much more powerful. We are much wiser than we give ourselves credit for However, they do have a bigger perspective, but one really important thing that they tell everyone is we do not make predictions, because this planet, your society, has human choice, And that human choice is not available on other planets, other societies. This is a unique thing for humans on this planet, and so they always say, we don't make predictions because of your human choice. You have the capability of changing things by your choices.

Pia Orleane 11:18

But what they do do is they read the energies and how they are progressing, and they will give us timelines or or ideas of what is the most likely outcome, not as a prediction, but this is the direction you're headed now, and those can change according to how we humans make our choices.

Jannecke Øinæs 11:38

And I've always been curious about humans. Who we really are? We know of reincarnation, but the question arises, okay, are we reincarnating, just on earth or other civilizations? Who are we really? What is your perspective on that is Pleiades us just in another version of us? Are they us from the future? Are we separated? And they're sort of, you know, our grandparents, in a way, some people are said, have said that they have been seeding us, that we're coming from them. So what is your perspective? Are humans actually galactic citizen and just having a temporary experience on Earth? Or are we more like Earth Bound, like this is my home. I'm a human for eons.

Cullen Baird Smith 12:24

You're You're the end, the end of your question. Just now absolutely answered that question. We are from the stars. We are galactic citizens. And as you just said, we are having this earthly experience for our growth, and because we're multi dimensional beings, we are integrating all of our other lives. We have 12 strands of DNA. The information that science generally talks about is we have two active strands of DNA. We don't we have 12 each. One of those strands is connected to another dimension.

Pia Orleane 13:09

And lartma doesn't talk about past and future. They say time is the illusion that keeps us trapped here. What they talk about is that everything is happening now. Anything in the past is in the mind. Anything in the future is in the mind. So what we perceive through our ideas of reincarnation as past lives are actually parallel experiences. We're having another dimensions. We just perceive it as having come before.

Cullen Baird Smith 13:34

So so to answer your question even more fully, this experience we're having here on Earth in this dimension, is a place for us to integrate all of those other lives together. We bring gifts. We bring all kinds of things, from the parallel experiences to this lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 13:57

Okay? And I also feel that this lifetime is very important. Can you add to that and share your perspective on why we're why are we the lucky ones in a way finding? And some would say the opposite, but I I feel like I'm fortunate to experience being in the middle of this shift, and especially when you said in the other episode that everything would change. March 2025, so speak to that. Why is it such an interesting time to live right now as a human?

Pia Orleane 14:33

Because lartmus says this is the point of integration. The patriarchy has dismissed the importance of the energy of 13, and larma is bringing the energy of 13 back in, because it's the integration point where we call in the memory of all of the other dimensional lives we have to become fully who we are. We are cleaning up our traumas, we are accepting our gifts, and we're in. Integrating all of our full potential in this time where we have the opportunity to make this evolutionary leap. So the energy of 13 is what we're living right now, an integration point. And we chose to be here to help those who wish to make the choice to evolve, learn to integrate in this way so that we can be empowered. This is one reason lartma came out with the Pleiadian earth energy calendar, which maps a way for you to navigate your life every day through energy, rather than looking at only Gregorian time, which is completely artificial. No day starts in the middle of the dark at 12 midnight. It's not in harmony with nature. The new day starts at sunset, the old energy dies away, and the new is born at sunset. So the Pleiadian earth energy calendar that LARP has brought is to help people learn to focus on why we're here at this particular time, and learn to work with the energy so we do integrate all of our gifts to empower ourselves to become the future humans

Cullen Baird Smith 16:00

and there is, there is a cosmic or universal timing, even though we say time doesn't exist here on earth, there is a schedule of humans with the possibility of evolving, and that time is right now. This

Pia Orleane 16:18

is our portal to cosmic citizenship to remembering that we are cosmic citizens and stepping back into that place.

Cullen Baird Smith 16:25

And that is why so many people are waking up right now. So many people are realizing that they are much more than they think they are. So many people focus on their body that I am my body. That's pretty much it. We're being given the understanding at this point that we are so much more than our physical selves, and so this is a design that we're part of, and that if we choose to open up, if we choose to follow our hearts, our expansion is limitless at this point.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:02

Hey guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes, and my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so. Thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below, and now let's go back to the episode. I think we're going to jump into actually some new knowledge that your guides have been coming forward with, and then we sort of can unwrap it after that and dive deeper. And maybe you could start with that, pia, because you connected with a 50,000 year old being from Inner Earth. So if you could explain to those who are bit new, also myself, I'm curious about what is really in earth, what that means, yeah, and how they came through, and what their message is.

Pia Orleane 18:22

Larma has many friends, but they all bring in voices from the light from different realms. And we were quite surprised when this one showed up, waking me from a deep sleep and speaking. It just started speaking to us. And I think your questions would best be answered about inner Earth from this being directly, because I have the feeling that the reason this being came to us right now is because we were going to be on your show, and I think he wants to share the Inner Earth wisdom with your listeners.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:52

Sure, we can do that.

Pia Orleane 18:55

Okay, so give me a minute, and let's see if we can come through. His voice is a little different from lartmus. Do apartments, I am Garth. I am Garth. I come from the Inner Earth. We from the Inner Earth, are 50,000 years old, but you humans think that life is a much shorter projection than what we are telling you is true, you ask the question, what is inner Earth? Inner Earth is a different realm and the dimension of actuality within your planet. You think that light only comes from the sun, but we are empowered by the light of the crystal kingdom. Crystals give off more light than the actual Sun does. And you may have discovered through some of your science on your earth that there are many, many crystals deep within the core of the Earth. These crystals light up our world and create our environment. It for living things that look much like your environment on the external Earth, we are an ancient, ancient civilization. We come from a place of love. We come from helping to support who you are, although you have denied our existence for a very long time. Now it is time that we come forward and bring to you the wisdom of what is coming. You need to know that there will be a great rumble that is coming across the earth. Volcanoes will be erupting out of your seas. Earthquakes will be happening on your land. This is not something to be feared. This is a progression of integration from your position of living on Earth, connecting to wishing to go to the stars, to recognition that you can also come into inner earth by your choices. Ascension is not only up that is a very linear perspective. Ascension means transcending current conditions through the ascension process. You may choose to go up to the stars for whence you came. You may choose to go deep into the earth, where we have a peaceful, beautiful kingdom that you would recognize in your visions, as the Inner Earth that is in your heart. You have options and opportunities. I am here to tell you, do not be afraid when the great rumble comes within three to five months of your time, you will feel the ripples. You will feel the shakes. It is our earth from the inside erupting to the outside to clear and cleanse. What is part of this great purification you are warned about by larkma in the spring of this past year, it is coming three to five months, the purification will increase. Your opportunities for expansion and ascension will increase. There will be more joy. There will be more peace. Do you have a question?

Jannecke Øinæs 22:12

Yes, thank you. I'm curious why the this rumble, great rumble, needs to happen, and all the volcanoes and natural disasters, because it does bring along with it, a lot of suffering, and you did mention it a bit, but still, there's a part of me who's thinking, why do we need all these natural disasters when we're trying to wake up and It causes the suffering,

Pia Orleane 22:39

from my perspective where I live, I would not call them disasters. I would call them a good cleansing, and I would point out that each human has had the choice of to incarnate in this time and where to live. Part of the evolutionary process is learning to see that it is not necessarily suffering to move into a different dimension. It is not necessarily suffering to give up separation and find yourself connected deeply to the earth and the stars. We see that this will not be a time of suffering unless humans choose to perceive it as such suffering, we see that many who lose homes or people and their families decide to take the ascension path. At that moment, their hearts will be awakened and opened to seeing the greater picture and recognizing that they are larger than who they think they are, and they have options and portals open to them all over the planet. Many, many portals will be open, and you will have assistance. And each place where what you perceive is disaster is being changed. It will be a positive thing for the planet and for humanity. Well,

Jannecke Øinæs 24:00

that's good to hear. I know that colin has been an archeologist, and I'm curious why, for instance, scientists and archeologists have not come over or discovered you your civilization inside Earth. If you mean that literally, that you're actually inside of earth,

Pia Orleane 24:21

there is a barrier of fire preventing your human species from accessing where we are, except certain tunnels that have been recently discovered in Romania, in Iran and certain places the United States. These tunnels have recently been discovered which have dimensional portals that allow you to pass through the heat barrier and arrive in where we are through what you may call, from your perception, a time machine, but you have to be at a certain vibrational state to access these tunnels and be able to pass through there is. All manner of possibilities that is coming now and this time of moving forward to help you be there. You may know that there is a crystal cave in Mexico that has the largest crystals that have ever been discovered. And for a while, your scientists were entering into that cave to discover more about inner Earth, but the Heat Barrier is too severe for you to pass through in that direction. You have to come through the tunnels that have been prepared and the right vibration to be able to pass through the heat tunnels and the heat barrier to get into this dimension we have kept ourselves pristine, empowered and sending love and positive energy upwards into your planet to help those who wish to make positive choices move and open To a greater reality of understanding your earth

Jannecke Øinæs 26:01

and what is your connection to us? Have we ever lived side by side, for instance, have you ever actually been on the surface walking amongst humans without us knowing it, perhaps, or have we always been separated?

Pia Orleane 26:19

We have not been on your surface, walking among you very often. But there are many of you who have traveled into the Inner Earth and your dimensional awareness, while you could not bring your physical form. Many of you know of this place. It is part of your memory. It is part of your remembering who you are, and you have access to come through it again. It is those who have been open to your parallel lives and remembering who you are in multiple levels, who have entered and visited the Inner Earth. Our position of walking on the exterior does occur. You will perceive us as slightly different but looking human, but having a great sense of peace and a great sense of unity, and you will feel calm whenever you encounter one of us. We do come to the surface, but not very often. We work from inside, helping you to find your strength from your inside, I would like to say goodbye to you now and give others opportunities to share perspectives. Because, as you know, truth comes from many sources, and there is so much to share with humanity about what is happening and how to move through this process. Is this agreeable?

Jannecke Øinæs 27:42

Yes. Thank you so much for coming and sharing your message today.

Pia Orleane 27:47

I am Garth. You will notice that my name, Garth is exactly like the name Earth, only the G stands for ground because we are in your earth. Thank you for this opportunity.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:03

Thank you,

Jannecke Øinæs 28:10

alright. How is your voice? I felt it almost felt a bit strenuous for you.

Pia Orleane 28:17

My voice is fine. I think the projection of this energy brings forth some of their, I don't know some of their. I don't even know how to put it. It's different because it comes from inside the earth, and I think it creates a different vibration. But my personal voice is totally fine.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:38

Well, that's good to hear. Well, that was interesting. I just feel like the Inner Earth beings is something I've heard of it before, but it still feels a bit new to me. Yeah, it's just such a strange concept that we have beings inside of Earth, but I assume that they actually mean that they're in a different dimension and not physical in the sense that we know physicality perhaps

Pia Orleane 29:05

well, Jannecke, that makes sense to me, and I actually don't know how to answer that, but yes, that was what I would assume. Also this being is so new to us today is the third time he has spoken. So we have much, much to learn whatever he chooses, to be able to share with us.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:24

Interesting. So what other beings have come to you that want to share something today?

Pia Orleane 29:31

This is interesting. We had a group called monitor who came to us much in the way that larkma Did that we've known monitor for years and years because we were great friends with monitor's host, but one day in our hotel room, the television turned itself on, much like lartma got our attention with a short wave radio, and all of a sudden we just stopped and said, Okay, who's here? Because we never turn. The television on, we don't watch television, and when we did, monitor came through and said, you may not know this, but our host has transitioned, and we need an avenue for bringing forth our information. Will you be that avenue? And we immediately said, Yes, sure.

Cullen Baird Smith 30:20

It was, it was surprising, because their host was speaking their truth in their wisdom for decades, and when he transitioned, I got a message in, in in my mind that this friend was no longer energetically here, that he had transitioned. And I thought, well, that's interesting, because we get thoughts like that all the time. We're aware of people changing form or changing energy.

Pia Orleane 30:58

And we found out that was actually true. He had transitioned within the last month,

Cullen Baird Smith 31:03

weeks, yes,

Pia Orleane 31:04

shortly, shortly before.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:06

But that's a channeler. You're saying a man, a channel Yeah, yeah,

Cullen Baird Smith 31:12

but I couldn't put together. When I shared this with Pia. I couldn't put together why I was given that information. It didn't at the time, it didn't make sense. And then some weeks later, what Pia just explained occurred where monitors said, Will you continue our work? Because our beloved host is no longer able to do this for humanity. And all of a sudden, that big light bulb went off, and I went, Okay, I understand now that's why I kept getting our friend's name over and over and over again. So we often get names of people we know, or we get names from galactic sources that don't make sense at the time, and maybe a week later, a month later, a year later, it becomes clear why we were given that information. It was a little startling in the beginning, because it made no sense, and now, after years and years of this, we realize these messages come through on purpose, and they're preparing us for what's coming next, and we actually love it, because it enhances our ability to bring more information forward to humanity.

Jannecke Øinæs 32:32

And now I get curious, did you get the name wisdom from north because I see that you haven't been on that many shows, and I just felt that when you wrote to me, I had to have you on

Cullen Baird Smith 32:44

Yes, yes, yes. I think that. I think that is one of the synchronicities that many of us are feeling lately about something just comes up, and we might not understand why, but it's there on purpose. And larkma has said for decades, humans aren't very good at noticing or understanding symbolism, metaphor, clues. We can we can be open to these things, but often we don't notice them. We don't do anything. Oh, we don't get the meaning behind them. And I think at this point, from an energetic point of view, whenever we get what we call a nudge or a sense that something wants to help us grow or understand more, we need to immediately go, Okay, I'm going to accept this. I'm going to say this is something new. I may not understand it, but it's here on purpose, and let's do something with it,

Jannecke Øinæs 33:52

like, for instance, synchronicities, when they happen, or you have, like, an inspired thoughts, you're talking about that, right? Yeah, and that we often just are. We forget about it, and we don't take it in as, oh, this is a sign, because I really believe we are helped all the time through what we are paying attention to what we're seeing, because we're seeing different things. We see reality in different ways. And so often we just go back to the mind and the autopilot without noticing, oh, there was a synchronicity here. Maybe there's a message,

Cullen Baird Smith 34:26

absolutely and and one thing we're trained to do all humans is listen to the mind. First we're trained, whether it's family, government, religion, medicine, we're always told your mind knows what it's doing. And I think one of the greatest things larkma and other beings who are bringing information and wisdom to us is it's time to sidestep that understanding that the mind is. In control. Actually, the heart is in control, and intuition comes from the heart. So what the mind does is it always attempts to be in control, and that's why, if we get an intuition or we get an epiphany, or we get a thought, our mind goes, Oh, that's probably not true. Don't, don't believe that that's that's not important. And what we need to do is retrain ourselves and realize that when we get those pieces of information, they are real. If we act on them, we will be enhanced. We will be changed. We will be different. So I think there needs to be a shift. And there is at this point in our human evolution where people are realizing the heart is really where the wisdom is.

Pia Orleane 35:47

And I think this old friend that has asked us to take over his former host job is really interested in and dedicated to helping us find how to do this transition. Lartma always says it's not about what you do, it's about how you do it. And I think this new friend is really focused on helping us find the how

Jannecke Øinæs 36:10

and his name was. Did you say monitor?

Cullen Baird Smith 36:14

Yes, monitor, monitor. And where he

Jannecke Øinæs 36:17

and where is he from?

Cullen Baird Smith 36:21

He, he is actually they like like larkma. It's a group of energies, a collective, collective, and they are from an undisclosed place where they believe we don't need to have the information. We don't have to have the mind information that they are from this place, that place. I guess I could say they're from everywhere,

Pia Orleane 36:49

and I think that's a good answer. They're from everywhere, because what we do know about them is that the members of this collective, this group, come from many different places. They bring truth in from many different sources. So I think saying they come from everywhere is a great way to define where they're from.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:05

All right? Well, it will be exciting to hear their wisdom today. So whenever you are ready. Pia,

Cullen Baird Smith 37:16

greetings. We come to you as monitor. We wish to speak to you about the changes that you are going through. You are at a momentous time in human history and human evolution, where you are becoming a much greater sense of who you are. You are changing, you are developing, and we are here today to talk about a particular subject matter that we believe will help you understand how you are changing and what you can be doing to further develop yourself to become your true nature and your true galactic citizenship. This information that we wish to give you is about an alchemical marriage of your divine feminine and your divine masculine. Each of you, regardless of which gender you focus upon, in this dimension, as who you believe you are, is only part of who you truly are, the idea that we want to bring to you about your transition your development, is the idea of androgyny. Androgyny is the alchemical marriage of the divine feminine and the divine masculine within each of you. Each of these elements carries specific gifts. Some of these are known to you. The masculine attributes can be about forward, seeing, possibly, aggressiveness, ways of commanding, how you do things in the world. About strength. On the other side of this equation, the divine feminine is about acceptance, nurturance, helping, holding, loving. What we want you to understand is it is absolutely time that humanity understands that the marriage of both of these energies, both of these. Elements must come together to complete the whole that you are. We want you to understand that these opposites come together in what you may see is duality on this planet, humans have not understood the message, the information, the wisdom about duality on this planet. Duality is here not to separate you, not to make changes that make you feel you are different than one another. Duality is here to bring you together. It is here to show two separate parts of anything, a high, a low, a hot, a cold, a day, a night. Duality has been misused by you as a species to separate you and to make you feel like I'm not this, I'm that you're not this. You are that this is not correct. Duality is here to help you realize that there are two rights instead of one right and one wrong. Duality is a way to bring everything together in one whole, to synchronize, to unify, and the alchemical marriage of the divine masculine and the divine feminine is part of this. Your species. Humanity has separated itself from nature. You have separated yourself from each other. You have separated yourself from nation to nation, religion to religion, government to government. It is time to unify all of those aspects of who you are. And the message we wish to bring you is it's time to marry alchemically, the divine masculine, all of its gifts, all of its attributes, with the Divine Feminine to bring about a unified field so that you can grow together In a much more powerful way. We hope this information is acceptable to you. We hope it is informative to you. We hope it will help you grow transition and help you become the total realization that you are multi dimensional and that you are part of the entire galactic family. Thank you for listening, and we hope you can absorb this. Thank you. We bless you, and we leave you now. All right. You

Jannecke Øinæs 43:03

Yes, okay, I was thinking or asking him, or they some questions, but they left before I had the chance. But maybe we could sort of

Pia Orleane 43:13

answer the questions for you, since we've been engaged with this energy for a long time, why don't we try?

Jannecke Øinæs 43:19

Great, so I might have missed something. Do you think they meant that we're becoming androgynous? Androgynous?

Pia Orleane 43:29

I think they mean that we are already androgynous, but we turn our focus towards the gender that we present, but that we need to incorporate the recognition that we carry, if we're a woman, we carry those divine masculine attributes within us too. If we are a man, we carry those divine masculine feminine attributes within us too. And by that recognition of what they call the alchemical marriage that helps us get along better, because we have both parts all the time to give her, give us a more holistic way of being in the world. It's, my opinion,

Cullen Baird Smith 44:06

it's it's a, it's a balancing understanding of of we're actually the genders are actually not separate. We, we. We choose when we come to a a new incarnation, we choose whether to be male or female. But that doesn't mean that we're only within that focus or that makeup, that we actually, as androgynous beings, are part of both of them combined to make a better whole, to make a better balanced person.

Jannecke Øinæs 44:46

Will we lose the genders then? Because I think there's something beautiful with two genders coming together.

Pia Orleane 44:52

I don't know. We're going to lose it. No, I think we're going to gain more of who we are, so that we can bring those genders to. Together and a in a more deep and profound way? Yeah,

Cullen Baird Smith 45:03

actually, actually, I think it's a great thing, and that's a great question. It will enhance the gender that we are expressing. It will actually fulfill and make that gender more whole. Which? Which will make the how do I say this? It will make less division between genders, and it will make the genders more compatible, because they express that androgynous sense of having both of all of the attributes together. So it's a it's a huge balancing that will make us less separate and hopefully less contentious and less frictional with each other. We

Pia Orleane 45:53

were invited as keynote speakers to a conference in Sweden, and I think it was 2010 2010 a conference in Sweden that was about bringing together the masculine and the feminine. And for several days, the men met in one group, and the women met in another group, and they talked about what they have done to harm each other. And then there was this great ceremony at the end where the women created something that said, we invite you in, we are sorry for where the ways that we have manipulated. And the men had a big ceremony for the women that said, we invite you in, we are sorry for the ways we've tried to control. And we were keynote speakers during that three day event, talking about the different things. And I think part of the wisdom we were bringing through was from our experience of integrating the androgynous self, because we've been talking to monitor for a long time, not through us, but with our friend. So I think monitor is now trying to get everybody to know men and women don't have to be like this at each other. They can have a deeper, more profound connection by accepting the Androgyny of who each one is,

Cullen Baird Smith 47:02

and that and that gathering that we were involved with all those years ago, we believe the energy that we created with both genders rippled out and actually opened up the possibility of people realizing that That androgyny is something we want to move forward towards, not thinking that, Oh, maybe I won't be as strongly in the gender that I've chosen, but simply to enhance it. It was a it was an incredible experience that we had, and the ending ceremony was so deep and so changing. It was incredible,

Jannecke Øinæs 47:44

very interesting. And I know that is a huge topic, and I think we would need to do another interview just to go into the feminine, masculine aspect of this. However, I really want to have time to also hear from Lark Ma, the Pleiadians, who have also an intro, interesting news to bring along with, and some of my other channelers on the show has also said some of the same things that we can expect, some inter stellar ships visible on Earth. And I got so curious to hear more.

Pia Orleane 48:24

All right, give us a moment.

Pia Orleane 48:34

Hello, dear one, we are Lark Ma, please give us your heart song.

Jannecke Øinæs 48:43

I think that was my name and my heart Yeah, my heart song is Jannecke Steenfeldt-Foss Øinæs in Norwegian

Pia Orleane 48:55

Jannecke, we are pleased to be in your presence again and share our viewpoint and perspective with your viewers. What would you like to ask? Or would you like us just to tell you what's coming.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:10

I would love for you to start sharing what you want to share today, and then we can go from there and see if I have questions.

Pia Orleane 49:17

There is a great presence of interstellar light and Interstellar beings and ships all around your planet. Your cultures have been talking about disclosure for a very long time, but we are here to tell you that there is nothing to disclose for those who can see are already beginning to see the ships arrive. However, there is going to be a greater presentation, a greater appearance, simply because more people are awakening and able to see the true reality of what is here we expect that you. Will notice, see, feel the presence of ships that carry our light and our energy in your skies in a matter of months. By spring of 2026 you will know we were there. You will know that we are actually here to support by beaming our light into your difficult challenges, your difficult places, and supporting you by inviting you to come into the highest version of yourself. As you come into your higher frequency, you awaken more and more to connect with us as you come into your higher frequency, you may visit us on our ships, in your etheric body. All of these things are coming for you. They're already here at some level. But the density on this planet prevents most humans from being able to see our presence. The light that we are putting through where we are into your atmosphere is clearing the density, so that the visibility and the recognition that we are here with you is going to be very apparent. Now we would like to make one contradictory statement, and that is, do not be confused by those and governments around the world who wish to put up a false display from their military bases, pretending that things they put into your atmosphere are actually alien ships attacking humanity. This is a ridiculous idea. No one around your planet has any attention of doing anything except promoting and helping this evolutionary process, but your governments are afraid of losing control, and they prefer to instill fear to help you think, Oh, we must do something to keep the aliens from attacking us. We're not going to attack. Nobody's going to attack from the light realms. We don't do attack and killing, we do love and peace, for that is who we are. So we want you to know this time is coming. Be aware of the false things that you are told. Don't pay attention to what you are told, but listen to your heart, for when you see our ships in the sky, you will feel a radiant peace, an excited expectation, a knowingness that this is home, coming to visit you and to help you be able to move into higher realms. We are here for you. Spring of 2026, will culminate with energies of your visibility, your recognition, your acceptance that you are part of the galaxy, you are part of the cosmic citizenship, and that you have a great deal more values than what you think you have. We told you last time we spoke to your audience that great changes would happen in spring of 2025 and indeed they have begun. You have seen many things as the dark has been shown the light. You have seen many things of the purification beginning. And you have felt many differences as the veil is opened more and more. And you feel more of the great opportunity that stands before you. There are many portals of opportunity that will continue to open as Windows in a room are opening to let in more light, you will see more and more. And when you go out into your sky, day or night, you're going to see us there, and it will make your heart smile. You will start seeing us populate your skies, probably as early as November and December of this year, and you will begin to see fully how many of us are around and helping by spring of this 2026 we know you have questions, but this is our starting point.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:56

Thank you for sharing this and how exciting I got to say, I mean, how many people, or I know that many people have been waiting for you to become more visible, and now we're here, it seems like so. That means that humans are ready now to sort of receive you.

Pia Orleane 54:19

Not all. Remember, this is a planet of choice. You have the choice to open your hearts, receive us and recognize the greater reality. There is also the choice to close your eyes, move into fear and continue your karmic learning at another place and another time. We have spoken before about the great split that is happening on this planet. This is what we are speaking of. Now there is indeed a great split, and we call it a dimensional split, not a time split, as some would perceive, but a dimensional split those who live in fear, who wish to attach to things that they believe in. Their head, rather than listening to their heart. Those who wish to not pay attention to nature, but to pay attention to what they are told, rather than empowering themselves as natural beings of the cosmos, they have the opportunity to ignore these portals, this light that is pouring in. They will be taken into what we call the golden trough of light by their choice, and held safely there till they are ready to continue their learning in another place in the cosmos. Those of you who are on the path, who are listening to your show, who have already chosen that you wish to make the ascension process. As the Earth moves into the new earth, you will have the visibility as you just asked. You will see. You will know. You will feel it in your hearts, and you will begin to make the ascension process more real for yourselves through our assistance. Now, there is nothing to fear and nothing to be sad about for those who do not make the choice you are making, to go to the new earth, all humans will ultimately arrive at the same destination. It is your destiny to evolve as a species. But those of you working with the light and listening to us now and other voices from the truth that come through have chosen to be the forerunners, you might say, the frontier, the pioneers, those who wish to show others the how of moving into ascension and the choices that you have from higher frequency. Does that answer

Jannecke Øinæs 56:34

yes? And I was just thinking, thank you for asking so thoroughly, like even more questions than I have, and I just felt that I had to ask this. So when you say that the ships will be visible, will you also land your ships on the ground, on earth,

Pia Orleane 56:53

at some point we will indeed, you will probably not see that in 2026 The first step is for you to accept our presence, and then, as you invite we will come. But the invitation must be extended first, because you are a planet of choice, we will be there. We will be ready. And the decision about whether we land depends on you. If you invite us, we will come.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:22

And then, can you speak a little bit more to the power of humanity together, in a way, in the way we're thinking, believing, because we do have forces that are more towards, like you mentioned, resistance, towards this controlling who are in power, and then you have a lot of people who are working for the light, but they're not in power positions. So it seems like there's, you know, push and pull here. So could you speak to that? How we could actually make that happen, to welcome you when we also have forces that are working against that

Pia Orleane 58:02

absolutely push and pull, what we call dynamic tension, which is required for evolutionary growth. You indeed feel the push and pull of the dynamic tension from our perspective, those of you who wish to move into the higher frequency, who wish to become cosmic citizens, who wish to empower yourselves to be the full versions of who you are and who carry light because of your choice to be here at this time, those of you, although you are smaller in number, have more power than the masses who are subsumed in Darkness, those who are under the spell of the dark are less powerful. Even those who control them are less powerful than the light. So if you look at the percentages, even though you are a small percentage, you are a more powerful percentage, because light is always stronger than dark. It only takes one star to light up the night sky. It only takes one candle to light up a room. The numbers of you who are filled with light and are positioned across the planet shining your light into darkness carry far more power to shift and change the trajectory of human destiny by the choices you are making. Then all of those who are still asleep and following the leaders who are led by the dark, the dark is losing its power every day. It slips a little bit more, and yet you will feel that dynamic tension for most of the rest of this year, as they exert the final controls that they think or believe they have they do not know. They do not have as much control as they think.

Jannecke Øinæs 59:52

What is your final message to our audience today

Pia Orleane 59:57

turn towards No. Nature. Nature is the stars above you. Nature is the ground of beyond and below you. Nature is the water, the trees, the living plants. Nature is life. You are part of life. Our final message to you is embrace that you are part of nature. Go more and more into nature and embrace what you learn through your intuition and listening from your heart, rather than listening from your mind, which will lead you to artificial sources that are facts but are not truth. Use your connection to nature and work to raise your frequency to his absolute highest version, so that this ascension process will be easy, full of grace and flow, joy and laughter. We are here supporting you. We remain available to help all those who wish to remove blocks, to wish to empower themselves, to integrate all of their gifts, we remain available to help you and group sessions or in private sessions. We will be offering, in the coming months, a big event called wake up with larma, where you may come and listen to the status of where you are on your path and ask questions. You can watch for this on the website Pia and Cullen will be announcing when this is going to occur in coming months. This is because we wish to enlarge the audience and the availability of those who are awakening and wish to follow this path of light, raising themselves to the highest frequency of becoming your future selves.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:43

Thank you so much for coming here today and sharing your wisdom. Arkmar,

Pia Orleane 1:01:48

it is our great pleasure. We love you Good always.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:59

I always jump a bit. When you guys jump,

Pia Orleane 1:02:04

there's a huge energetic shift with lartma comes in and when they leave, yeah, it's

Cullen Baird Smith 1:02:09

palpable. It's palpable for us. It's their energy is so big. It's so supportive and so loving. It's It's amazing. You know, a lot of people ask channelers, does your channeling deplete you? Does it? Does it fatigue you? Does it tire you out? And our answer to that is always the opposite. We are enlivened. We are energized. We are filled with with more energy, more light every time we connect with our colleagues. And that

Pia Orleane 1:02:47

has something to do also with being conscious channels. Conscious channels who are aware and merge with the energy they don't have, the depletion that those who don't remember or go into a trance Express, that they have and we are conscious channels.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:03

Well, there were quite significant knowledge and information that came through there. So I guess we'll look to the skies in November already and December and especially spring 2026 How exciting.

Pia Orleane 1:03:18

I think it's very interesting that the Pleiadians are focusing upon and other sources also of truth, focusing upon March, the month of March, or the spring each year, as a transition point. And when we look at the Pleiadian earth energy system that lartma has given us, they have told us that the do true beginning of the new year is always in the spring in the northern hemisphere, or at the March Equinox, which is fall in the southern hemisphere, but that's the new beginning of the new year, not the middle of the dark of winter in January. Our 15 month calendar that we're coming out with that shares this with people has the Gregorian dates of January and February, just to keep people aligned so they can make their lives easy and schedule, but the energetic goes from March to March as well. So you will see how it's being integrated. And I'm so interested in the way the Pleiadians are helping us to integrate this movement away from time and into the diversity the dimensional perspective of

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:23

energy. Interesting. And my birthday is in March, so that's kind of cool. What's your birthday? March? 27

Pia Orleane 1:04:32

Ah, great. Day two and seven. That's the energy of nine, which is harmony, and that's exactly what you bring to the world.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:39

Hmm. Thank you for that. Maya, might always a joy to have you on and I'll ask you the same general questions I ask all my guests. Then we could start with you. Pia, then Colin, so what is self love to you? Pia,

Pia Orleane 1:04:54

self love to me is loving everything and everyone. Because when I love everything and everyone and treat them with. Kindness, my heart explodes with joy and love

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:04

and you, Cullen,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:05:07

for me, it's absolute self acceptance of who I am, all the parts of me, all the parts that are growing, all the parts that need to fall away. It's it's just loving every part of me and that that allows me, once I accomplish that which I work on every day, that allows me to beam that out to everyone else.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:36

That makes sense, and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective. Pia,

Pia Orleane 1:05:44

the deeper meaning of life, to me, is recognizing that we are not contained in or limited in any way by our perspective. Here in the third dimension, the deeper meaning of life is that consciousness can go anywhere and everywhere, and it is very alive and can manifest in forms that we choose as we empower ourselves

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:06

powerful. And what about you, Cullen,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:06:09

I think the meaning of life is to be the highest possible version of ourselves, because if, if we keep ourselves in the highest vibration, or the highest frequency, we are completing our mission here on earth to be of service. And I think service is the ultimate process of truly being who we are.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:43

Powerful, and you mentioned it a little bit. But could you share a bit about your work, if people really want to dive deeper about you know, the teachings of larkman and other beings you channel, how can they sort of immerse themselves in that more? Our website

Pia Orleane 1:06:59

is Laarkmaa, l, a, a, r, k, m, a, a.com, and on the website, you can find articles that we have archived. You can find presentations and podcasts we have done. You can find all the books that we have written with lartma, writing and channeling through them and other books that we have come forward, everything that we've been bringing for the last two decades and more is there on the website. If you really want to delve more deeply into the changes of this transitional time, larkma offers personal sessions to help you empower yourself, find the answers you're seeking and remove your blockages. We do have a two to three month waiting list, but if people are willing to wait and put their names on the waiting list, we're working through the waiting list all the time. We're always working. We are reaching people now that have been about three months waiting, and most of them tell us after their session. I thought I needed it when I signed up, but it came in divine time. So

Cullen Baird Smith 1:07:59

almost, almost every muscle everyone said says to us, I really wanted to connect with the two of you and larkma, or vice versa, with larkma and the two of you. And I was really anxious, because I thought that was the perfect time. And Pia is absolutely right. Almost everyone is saying the wait was worth it, because I need the help or the wisdom now more than ever in my life. So it's really interesting. We think that's all about synchronicity. We think that's all about the energy of when things are right, oh yeah, to come forward. The

Pia Orleane 1:08:41

other thing we would encourage people who want to explore this more deeply to take a look at is the 2026 Pleiadian earth energy calendar. And there is the remainder of the 2025. Is up for people to have access to as well. But to be able to begin immersing yourself in energy and understanding the energies that are coming to us, is very powerful. And I offer on my website, which is Pia Orleane, p, i, A, O, R, L, E, A N, E.com, I offer in their astrology charts to help you figure out exactly what is your energy and how you relate to others in the world, what are your gifts? What's your karmic challenges? All of that comes on a 25 page report with a free consultation. So I offer that for people who want to go deeper into the energies, as well as intuitive and health guidance sessions, because I have a PhD in alternative health as well as in psychology. So that's who we are and what we offer, yeah, how we're trying to

Cullen Baird Smith 1:09:41

help this. This system that largma has given us about the Pleiadian view of astrology is so absolutely different than Western astrology, Vedic Astrology, Chinese astrology, all of those systems are predicated and designed around. Time

Pia Orleane 1:10:01

and units of 12, which don't allow 13 in to integrate at

Cullen Baird Smith 1:10:05

all. So, so the Pleiadian concept is absolutely completely about energy, and we played with this system for years. We studied it, we questioned larkma, we played with it, and we think that it is way more accurate in helping people understand who they truly are than just looking at the timing of when they were born.

Pia Orleane 1:10:33

So I would say, to summarize, anybody who's interested in what they've heard today, go explore both websites and see what resonates with you? Yeah,

Cullen Baird Smith 1:10:41

there's a tremendous there's a tremendous amount of information in within both websites.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:47

And I want to mention that I have one of your card decks, which I've really appreciated. And you have written several books, also that I didn't mention. And as we're speaking about that, I've come out with my own one now where, yeah, with the quotes from some of my guests, including you, Pia from the show, beautiful wisdom for the New Earth. So I think it will be out once this interview airs, hopefully. So I'm pretty excited. So this is really, you know, in tune with each other. I feel like this is helping me every day. This is helping me every day as well.

Cullen Baird Smith 1:11:28

That's wonderful. We can hardly wait to receive your new deck.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11:35

Thank you so much, and thank you so much for coming back to the show. It was a joy having you here. Thank you for your beautiful and important work.

Pia Orleane 1:11:43

We always enjoy being with you. You have a great energy, and you're doing such a service to the world. Thank you for inviting us.