From NASA to the Stars: Understanding The Quantum Being! With Shehnaz Soni

Shehnaz Soni 0:00

The power we seek is the power within my colleague basically just mentioned to me that during the launch they would see activities that was indescribable because of the way the craft was moving. The declassified CIA paper called The Gateway experience. It was actually written by CIA in 1983 it became declassified. He was able to create the sound that can stimulate you, put you in a brain, frequency that you are able to experience out of body. When you really look, there's nothing happening by itself. Every single thing has connections, has tentacles. We are progressing as a human species, partly because star being is in Cahoot with us. I personally think that the star being represents the part of us that knows more than we do, and they become the bridge for us to traverse our consciousness.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02

Shehnaz Soni, a warm welcome to the show.

Shehnaz Soni 1:07

Thank you, Jannecke. I'm so excited to have a candid conversation with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:12

I'm super excited. My, oh, my, I've been looking so much forward to this. You have such an incredible story, and you're such a beautiful ambassador of bridging science and spirituality, because you are a NASA rocket scientist, a physicist, an aero space engineer, and you're also the author of the quantum being, and you have also An incredibly empowering story, especially, I gotta say for women. I mean, I just heard your story, and now you're my role model, and I have to get your book as well. You have also been talking openly about your work in NASA on how there is apparently extraterrestrial activity around launches of rockets, which I find very interesting. You've had your own near death experience. I mean, there's lots to go into today. However, since you're new on the show and some people might be new to you, I'd love for you to share your story from being born and raised in Pakistan and ending up as this incredible woman doing this incredible work in the US today, sure.

Shehnaz Soni 2:23

Thank you, Jannecke, for asking for sharing everything that you feel connected with me. I personally think that the fact that I always questioned, I always questioned my current reality when I wasn't content in it. That has been my driver to bring me to where I am today, talking to you right, like, you know, from my awareness, like when I became aware of my consciousness in graduate Pakistan, and I would see the hostility in my house, for, you know, household, family dynamic, I would feel the way everybody's doing things, but they're not feeling it in their heart that they want to do it. I felt the tension, you know, because my dad was running the show, and he had this power that when he would come in the house, everybody felt like now they had to make sure that he is not going to get mad at us, right? So when you live in a household where you're constantly worried about some sort of mindful that you're going to, you know you're going to walk into, it just makes you very aware that it's not where I want to be, like, it's not contentment, it's not peace, it's not what I would like to experience however. You have no idea how you're going to create that, because you are a complete dependent in a family where everybody is feeling like they don't have any power. And even my dad, who exude power, he was very sad deep down, right? So I kind of felt all of that, and I think that feeling and that awareness that I had was the trigger for me to get to where I am today is because I did not look at that and said, Well, this is the way it is. I mean, majority of the people who truly are living in a situation or circumstances that they don't like, is partly because they are not asking the right questions. Right they're not saying that. Why do I have to tolerate this reality?

Jannecke Øinæs 4:25

Yeah, and you did not tolerate it, but your way into it is interesting because it was actually an arranged marriage that sort of helped you to get to the US, even though that was maybe not the marriage of your dreams,

Shehnaz Soni 4:43

right? But the funny thing is that right before my marriage, I wanted to come to us very much, because in my mind, watching Star Trek and not understanding English had made me aware that the type of world that I want to live in is going to require me to leave my country. So. I actually did the TOEFL test. I like, I did everything that's required at the time to get admission at the university, and I was a valedictorian, so I knew that. Like, I mean, I was very driven, right? But my dad basically said that, no, you are not going to go and, you know, study abroad. That's just not going to happen. So actually, when, when that happened, I still actually coordinated with one of my girlfriend in the university who also wanted to go abroad. And I said, maybe if you can team up, then both of our dads can agree, you know, because then we are not going by ourselves. Because, you know, for a girl to go alone anywhere, it's just almost like, you know, there's no trust in that, right? It's almost like, you know, how can a father just get the girl run racket like that, right? I mean, it's a very, very suppressed mindset. But even that story did not work for me. So I had already tried to go to America a year ago, and then the arranged marriage happened like even though, from my perspective, it happened on its own, but my subconscious created a whole different opportunity for me to experience to come to America, because that was the only way I could come to America.

Jannecke Øinæs 6:10

Yes, and apparently, on the outside he was something different than on the inside. I mean, coming to the US was quite a shock for you, because he hadn't portrayed, like, the real story about who he was, isn't that, right?

Shehnaz Soni 6:24

Yeah, so, I mean, he basically, and that was the thing, right? Because, you know, like you are arranged marriage is based on two people, meeting, family meeting. You see what you see, you hear what you hear. You make a decision based on that. And when he came to, you know, to Pakistan, he actually had this long beard, like, I mean, I would joke that would touch the ground, you know, because when I saw his picture, it was very long beard, and he shaved it off. And he came to to Karachi for, I mean, he was planning on seeing like, seven girls. So he came there, not just to see me. There were, like, all these girls lined up for him to select from, and I was the fifth one, and he selected me. He did not see the rest of the girl. He said, I want to marry her so, but that was Yeah, so it was very interesting that he was clean shaved, which gave my dad an impression that he's not into the religion, because my dad wasn't, because when you're into the religion, you are supposed to have a beard. And not only that, you have a beard, you have a certain shape of the beard that you have to carry on your on your face, because that says that you are abiding by the religion. And he did not show that. So my dad felt like he is perfect, because in his mind, you know, he's open minded, and he's not stuck in the religion. So that was the first thing,

Jannecke Øinæs 7:46

yeah, yeah. Please continue. Yeah,

Shehnaz Soni 7:49

right. And, I mean, yeah. So there were many things that he basically projected that wasn't really real, because he mainly came to please his mom. His goal was to please his mom, because his mom had raised him single handedly, because his dad died when he was only two months old baby. So in his mind, if his mom is not happy, then that's a problem for him. So he only came to marry me to please his mom while he was in love with somebody else. Wasn't even like she was a complete non Muslim girl. She was not even, you know, she was basically Asian girl, right? Like Oriental. So that was, like, too many boundaries to cross, right? It's not even like that. She's not Bora. So Bora is a religion that we have under Muslim. She wasn't even Bora, she wasn't even Muslim. She was not even a, you know, one of us in any which way. And that was a violation in every between. So the mom said to the son that if you marry the girl that you like, then you will not see me ever again. Basically, you will only see me when I'm dead. And that was not acceptable for my first husband. So So you see how interesting it is that he wants to please his mom, and in the process, he's doing all these things to lie about who he is, subconsciously, and then I'm supposed to get trapped enough to come to America, because that is my calling, and learn about all of that as I spend time with him and then realize that I Need to make the most of the life. So that actually is a lesson in itself, that even when we want to change our current reality and go into something that can help us grow, it comes with its own consequences, right? It comes with its own lessons. Nothing is nothing is simple, right? It's not like you're going to go from one to just that. That only happens in a fairy tale, right? Where you can just, you know, marry the prince and then you can live happily ever after. That doesn't happen in real life.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:55

Yeah, true that there's always learning in every relationship. Um. And it's so beautiful that the way you're looking at it in an empowering way, and how it led you to your destiny in many ways, so and it was an important thing for you that you could keep on studying. That was like your main condition for the for the marriage. How did you get into NASA doing what you're doing today?

Shehnaz Soni 10:20

Yeah. So I think the drive so from the day one, when I was aware of my limitation, the thing that only gave me freedom was knowledge. So even when I was very, very young, and I would feel trapped in my household, or trap in my family dynamics, the only place I go to was books and school, school work. So I basically kind of hide myself into that, and that's the reason I became a valedictorian, is because I found, you know, I found the safe heaven. That was my safe heaven was because that was the one place where I could be me. Nobody could stop me from studying, right? Nobody could stop me if I want to dig a little bit more, learn more, research more, because that was the one place where I had the freedom, and that freedom led me to being a valedictorian. And the very fact that my first husband selected me out of seven girl is partly because I was a valedictorian, because in his mind, he's looking at somebody who can truly live in America because he had already lived there, and he knew the life was very different, and he knew that you have to be able to especially he didn't want a wife. He wanted a wife to be pursuing his education her education, because he wanted a partner who can make equal or more money than him. That was another criteria that he had. So when I told him that I want to pursue my education. He said, of course, because he was already in debt, he had a negative bank balance. So he was looking for somebody who's going to help him succeed and prosper, not just somebody whom he takes care of like the typical husband would, from a cultural standpoint, you see. So he had his own agenda, and my agenda was that I just because I wanted to make sure that I keep my quest of understanding and knowledge and growth continue, whether I'm with him or whether I'm not. And when he said yes to my study, that became the huge plus for me.

Jannecke Øinæs 12:17

So how did you get into NASA and your awareness around star beings being involved or sort of observing what we're doing here on the planet, like, how did this awareness come to you?

Shehnaz Soni 12:34

So that awareness came to me. So the reason for me to ultimately become part of NASA is that my when I became an engineer, and when I had my I started getting interviews, because I graduated magna cum laude from UC Irvine, so I had a good school and a good GPA, and I would get interviews, but I would not go for interviews like I would Go for interviews. But I would not just take jobs that just would come to me. I would go for interviews to figure out if I really want the job. And in that process, the job that I accepted, the first one was working on the satellite phone Inmarsat phone, which was with the Hughes Aircraft El Segundo California. And that job, the reason I accepted that job was because Inmarsat was the swan at the time. We're talking about 1995 it was a very unique phone. It was a satellite phone. It was something nobody had done before. So that step that I took in my life to do something unique ended up bringing me an opportunity from the Boeing company to work on International Space Station with NASA as my customer. So that's the first time I interacted with NASA as a customer, and then ultimately I joined them. But that was the you see, the process here is like, there's always a step that I took that was different than norm. It's like, you know, people generally, like, when you become an engineer and you are, you know, especially in my case, I really needed money, you are going to just take the job that comes. But I did not. I did the job that I wanted, and that created the foundation for me to work for International Space Station. I I did a lot of coding for International Space Station. I did testing for it. So that is when my interface with NASA became very strong. And then I started seeing the world from started traveling to Houston, you know, I was living in LA. All that just opened up my horizon. It's like, you know, when you're playing the game, any kind of video game you play, and the more you open up new vistas. The light comes into all this, you're expanding. And I think in the process of expanding, especially when I was working on space station, I started having a lot of colleague, male friends, you know, because I had, you know, I mean, majority of the time in my career, I worked with men because of the engineering is not a common field, especially at. The time, you know, now you see more women in it, but most of the time, I would be started by all men, and we would be, you know, doing testing and all that stuff. Everything that I did, I actually started seeing myself through other men's eye. And that was an interesting thing, when they would say that, though, you know, when you are in LA, because I would travel from LA to Houston, and they would say that you're a different person when you're in LA, and you're a different person when you're in Houston. And I was like, wow, it's because in LA, I'm very aware of my life, my role as a mother. You know, I have two kids at the time when I was working on space station. I have a mother in law lives with me who needs to injection. So when I had that life, and then I would travel to Houston, I would almost forget that I had that constrained life, and I would become more of a free birdie. And then my my colleague, would say that, Oh, my God, you know, you're so much more fun when when I travel with you. And then I would be like, really, I'm like, why am I changing? So these type of things made me aware of me, that how I'm different depending on a different venue. And you know, so, so joining NASA was kind of a natural progression from that point on. However, becoming aware of the star being, becoming aware of the non physical all that happened. It was a con. It was a conglomeration of things, because my kids kind of would talk about non physical beings, and I would never question anything that my kid would talk about. The only challenge I had was that I would tell my husband, and my husband would completely question it and completely suppress it and get mad at my kids, and then my kid would never tell me afterwards. So when I saw that pattern, I realize that not everybody is like me like, because I'm always very aware that I don't know everything, right? And because of that, when somebody brings me something new, even if it's my children, I think of it as like, wow. You know, the messages is coming from my children, right? Like the universe is talking to me through my children. So I take it like very I give it a lot of importance. Similarly, when my coworker, because I always have embodied that energy, because that's just the who I am, like whenever I go anywhere, I feel like people want to confide in and I don't ask for it, but it's because they feel comfortable. They feel like you're not going to judge me, and that was the story with me. Even at my in my work, like everybody knew that they can come and tell me anything and I will be like, like a kid in a candy shop, you know, like saying, Wow, that is so amazing. So they kind of love that. And that's how they started sharing with Nick about the anomaly that was observed during the launches.

Jannecke Øinæs 17:39

I mean, this is super interesting. And I guess this is not something they or your colleagues, is going on YouTube and sharing about, but they did share with you, and I'm very grateful that you're sharing it with the world, because to me, it's not a surprise from having all my guests on the show who have connection or channeling extraterrestrials or aliens or star beings, and they're saying they have been here for a long time, and they're witnessing what we're doing. So could you share a little bit more about what they said is, are they seeing them in in starships? Is it an awareness that weird things are happening, like, how, how does this work?

Shehnaz Soni 18:25

Right? So, so and I have, other than my colleague, I have many story that confirms that, yes, you know, extraterrestrial, it's kind of an interesting name, because I actually feel like that name doesn't work for them, you know, why? Because alien doesn't work for them either, because they have been here, right? So I star being sounds like the right name, because we are all star stuff, right? So I would call them star beings for my vocabulary, because it aligns with my understanding my my colleague basically just mentioned to me that during the launch, you know, they would see activities that was indescribable because of the way the craft was moving, the timing of the craft showing up, the craft that they could not comprehend because it would show up around the launch time to kind of almost make their presence known, but the way it would move, the way it would move, was something that they have never seen, any kind of craft that human has ever made that can move like that, and that was and it was just not even the speed, it was also the pattern that they were making when they were moving. So that was what they observed, and and they also noticed that, and I have always noticed that that the launch, you know, generally, we always have a scheduled launch, because it requires a lot of effort to get to the point where you can launch a rocket, the heaviest rocket on planet Earth, right, like a building to go all the way break the Earth atmosphere. I mean, that's. Like a Guinness Book of World Record feat. Every time when you launch a rocket, you're doing something very significant from a technological standpoint. However, what we have noticed is that generally the launch occurs almost like it occurs, because star being also agrees that the launch needs to occur. Because if it doesn't need to occur, then the weather will change in the in the in the in the window, you know, when we can say, we cancel the launch. So there is a little bit of a dance going on. And a lot of people would say that that's just the weather, and that's just the atmosphere, and that's just, you know, all that. But what I'm saying is, because, you know, I've written a book The Quantum being, which is all about interconnectedness. So when you really look, there's nothing happening by itself. Every single thing has connections, has tentacles. So when you start looking at the world from that standpoint, which is what I do, because you see that, even when I see that my first husband was not showing up the way he wanted. He he should have been, but he was under the pressure of pleasing his mom. You see my point, there's always something behind the curtain that we are not seeing, right? So when you see something and you say, Oh, I can't believe you're lying, well, why are you lying? I go straight to that. I don't even swear that. I can't believe I'm you're lying, because that is not even in my in my state, I go straight to Why are you lying? And how can we see the bigger picture? Because when you see the bigger picture, then you are no longer going to say that this person is lying, because you're going to say that, Oh, wow. You know, I mean, he was raised by this mom, and he wanted to please the mom, and in the process, he didn't care that he's going to lie to all these people. You see my point, but that's how majority of the people live in the world. And even with my entire experience of working on a rocket and working on missiles and working on, you know, programs that are very unique and highly technologically evolved, what I've learned is that we are progressing as a human species, partly because star being is in Cahoot with us. You know what I mean? Like it's an agreement with us. Because when the agreement is not there, then you see a lot of friction, and then you see that things don't go the way you plan.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:23

Interesting. I mean, this is super interesting. Do you have any thoughts about who these star beings are? I mean, the universe is so vast. Yeah.

Shehnaz Soni 22:35

I personally think that the star being because, you know, we are the star stuff, and all of us based on quantum entanglement, we are all one, right? So we are kind of separated into all these different aspect of that oneness, that you can call it God, call it source, um, call it that magnificent light, where, where there is no duality, right? That you can call it like all the dimensions above, 4567, which can go, you know, up to 15 or beyond. All of that, to me, is kind of like, you know, we are here to we are here to pick up ourselves, like we're here to understand ourselves, right? We are here to transcend ourselves. And in that journey, we are. We had to come to the point where we had to be separated enough that, you know, you have to be separate from me, right for us to come to that point to experience life. So what I'm saying is that the star being represents the part of us that knows more than we do. They represent. They're more close to the source than we are, and they become the bridge for us to traverse our consciousness.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:50

Now you spoke about the bigger picture, and to me, you're on the inside, and I'm curious whether the inside is aware of this bigger picture and when it's coming out, this information about quantum physics and how it is sort of the same in many ways as spirituality or they're they're both proving each other in a way I'm just my question is, is there knowledge about these topics that we speak about on this show, like spirituality on the inside, like scientists do, they actually sit with us, but are not just ready to speak about it, perhaps, right?

Shehnaz Soni 24:37

So, you know, there is that dichotomy that I have always seen in my life, and it's interesting that I'm seeing it even here. So, so the dichotomy is that consciously, subconsciously, right? So it seems to me that, like all my colleagues, for example, we watch similar shows, right? We like similar sci fi shows. We talk on a similar subjects, in many ways. However, majority the colleague of mine would would classify the Sci Fi as more like, okay, it's a science fiction. You know, it is not a reality, right? Like, I actually look at sci fi and I feel like, my god, it's basically telling me more than my news can ever tell me, right? So that is how I see it. So what I'm saying is that the way I see the interconnectedness of the world with what I've experienced in my life and what we are here to do, and how it all converges that is not commonly experienced in conversation with my colleague. Okay, but the interesting thing is, it's a dichotomy. Because on one hand, they're all into Star Trek and Star Wars and all the things that they show is acceptance of the star being. Think about that, right? But on the other hand, most of these people, they do, have very strict religious background. You know, they all are, you know, Mormon, Christian, Catholic, whatever, majority of them fall in that category in Huntsville, Alabama, where I work right now. And the thing is that, and they're very good citizen, right? They are. They go to church, they do all the good things that you know, generally looks like you are a good person. So in a way, they kind of have put themselves in a box, is what I'm saying. So the thing is that someone like me, which I have no country, no land, no you know, right now, I'm a solo with like I don't have anything to lose, in a way, and I'm not conformist. So because of that, I asked the hard question, and because of that, I see the bigger picture mature the people prefer to have a lot of structure around them, because it kind of protects them from asking too much. Because, you know, I mean, you don't want to go into end up in a mental hospital either. You see my point, there's a fine line, and I think that a lot of people find that you know, just being with the family, being with the fair friends, you know, same people that you meet for for decades, after decades, you have that life. You come to work and you work on a rocket and you can feel good and pound your chest, you know? I mean, it's just one of those things where life is good. I don't want to, I don't want to go, I don't want to take it to the edge, right? That's the type of people I run into most of the time at my work, and that, to me, is a dichotomy, because we do have the right kind of brain and right kind of intention, but it hasn't been fueled to start going in the direction that I'm going. So right now, I feel like a solo person. I mean, even my book, for example, I've given it to a handful of people, and everybody who looks at my book or reads it, they get fascinated by it, but they don't think that it can ever be part of their reality.

Jannecke Øinæs 27:51

Ah, right, even if that is perhaps more true of our reality than our

Shehnaz Soni 27:59

and I am actually, and it's good that you're asking this question, because I'm really ready for someone who believes in that message, like I do, and for us to come together so we can all start co creating that heaven on earth. Because it takes a village.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:17

It does, and I think it's about to happen. Something is in the air for sure. Now, your book The Quantum being. What does that entail that we're a quantum being.

Shehnaz Soni 28:31

So the quantum being book basically makes every single species, technically not even human. I'm going beyond human, every single species aware of their subatomic particle existence, because at the physical existence level, we are the electron that is spinning and creating the sacred geometry in the form of our showing up In the form of human and then us being tethered and connected with our other use, right? We have many use in different universe, all of that web that is connected it shows up in the physical dimension for us to interact through the spin of the electron. And that is the fact that scientific science has proved proved it. CERN has proved it, and it has been proven for last 100 years. So nobody can argue with that. And what I'm saying is that when you when you already have a foundational proof that we're all at the subatomic level the same, then why are we not looking at the similarity and spending a lot of energy in all the separation that has been created on earth through mass media and mass communication. Right? So the quantum being basically. Is an essence that we all carry, and since we're all one, we need to act like it.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:05

Right? So we're all these particles, but we're also a spirit and an energy, right? I mean, these particles are not physical, even though they're a little bit physical, I think it's 000, 0.9, or something,

Shehnaz Soni 30:24

yeah. So as far as the mask goes, right? So there's so there's more space in between, right? So you're right. So the so, but the point is that when we are in the physical dimension and everything is dense, then you look at everything as dense, and then you get carried away, because you think that this is it, and that carried away is where I'm reminding everybody that we are quantum beings. So we are the electron spin, which means we get to decide how we want to spin our electron, which can also change our very existence. It can change our reality. It can change our experience. It can change all aspect of our existence. So are we ready to truly take that inner journey and get to know ourselves who we are, because we are projecting the universe and we're interacting with the universe at the same time. So we are the conduit in everything we experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:13

Yeah, can you share more about that? And I also want to add that I heard you speak about this declassified CIA document or paper 1983 that you came across that actually spoke about that we create our own reality, or that, you know, I met, imagination is creative. Could you talk a bit about that? Hey, guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the wisdom from North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes, and my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness, to do what I can do with this channel to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so. Thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below. And now let's go back to the episode.

Shehnaz Soni 32:20

Yeah. So the paper name is the declassified CIA paper called The Gateway experience. And that paper was actually written by CIA in 1983 it became declassified in the 2019 2017 time period. I stumbled on it in 2021 and that paper basically was done to understand the Hemi sync, you know, from Dr Robert Monroe Institute. So it was mainly done to understand that why, you know, people experience the out of body experience, you know, because he was able to create the sound that can stimulate you, put you in a brain frequency that you are able to experience out of body, right? So that's why the Dr Robert bond run became so famous, is because he was able to induce that. And people would go there because they were willing to experience these things by having to use, use the sound, and changing your brain frequency. So then that caused scientists to actually understand that, what is the reason that that is happening. And in that process, they were able to actually say that, how, when we actually go into the place, you know? So there is a space in between, like we said earlier, right? That space is called plank length. So that space, which is very, very small, but it is there that space is what, basically, they were able to discover through that paper, is that there is that space where the space and time no longer work the way we understand it. When you are inside that space with very, small, then the space and time work completely differently than we have ever understood, and that is the cause of the out of body experience. That is the cause of all the phenomena that we cannot explain, and that is where we end up accessing our other dimensions, so that space in between becomes the access point for inner dimensional travel. But

Jannecke Øinæs 34:25

that's huge. I mean, that

Shehnaz Soni 34:27

It is huge, and that is the irony, that it is so huge that when I learned about it, even though the paper was written in 1983 I learned about it in 2021 I put it in my book. I've told so many people about it. I have even, like I had, even people who interviewed me prior to that, and I told them about the paper, and I said, get me on your show. I want to talk about it and explain. It's a 30 page paper, and majority of the people may not be able to understand it, but I do because, you know, I'm a scientist, and you need a certain type of brain to understand it, because it's written in that language, but that paper. Paper. That paper shows it just another proof. It's just another proof, but it is a more of a proof that you can use, because, you know, I can say that you can type on a Google the gateway experience, and you're going to get the PDF. And if you do get it, please save it and read it and and it's worth it. But the irony about that is that even even when I learned about it, and even when I shared with people, and even I had some friends who are very high YouTuber, and they have huge following, and when I would tell them that I would love to talk about this, get me on your show, they would not, because what I'm saying is that a lot of time, people are more connected on doing whatever they're doing rather than doing the right thing,

Jannecke Øinæs 35:40

yeah, like putting focus on it, I would imagine that scientists would be all over it.

Shehnaz Soni 35:46

Exactly, and the very fact that now is declassified, so we are not violating any rules by using it. But that is the way it is, like there are, there are a lot of truths out there that proves quantum physics right, that proves that we are multi dimensional. We already we don't even need a proof. You already know that. I mean, at the end of the day, you have to start going inside and start realizing that, what do you really know, and what is everybody telling you right? And then you compare the two. And at the end of the day, you need to go back to what you think you know, because that's where you are projecting your consciousness with the full optimum light.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:24

I know you've gone to Mystery Schools, and I just got curious right there. I've always been fascinating. Whenever someone is saying Mystery Schools, I'm like, Oh, what are they learning there? So could you hear, from your perspective, how we create our reality in the base of that. You know, we are connected to everything,

Shehnaz Soni 36:47

right? So these are two questions, right? So you're asking me about Mystery School, which I would say one the second, how I do it is basically incorporating every single thing I've learned, including the mystery school teaching. So mystery school teaching is not the only reason I understood the fact I partly it's like a trial and error. I understood it partly because I took a lot of risks and chances on myself. So modern Mystery School is interesting because my quest of understanding consciousness, I was very curious about it. And even growing up in Karachi, the religion that I was growing up in it's called Bora. Is the name of the religion. They actually had a school for only select few people who would want to be more, you know, devoted to the religion, right? So I was not devoted to the religion, so I could never go to that very special school. But I noticed that all the people who go to that special school, they almost transform into something else, like they would dress differently, they would talk differently, they would act like they are, like more chosen one, and they are the only one who's going to go to heaven. You know, they had this thing about them, right? So I noticed that. So part of me was very curious about, what are the teaching, right? I mean, like, naturally, I was curious, but there's no way I was willing to lie to them that I'm religious because I wasn't. So there was no way I was able to enter the school, because the school had a condition that you have to devote your life to that. And I wasn't willing to sign off my soul. So I did not ever access that education. Fast forward in my life, and I came to America, and then, especially in the last 15 years, as I became more, you know, focused on expanding my consciousness, I stumbled onto the local Mystery School here in Huntsville, Alabama, and I became part of the school, and I learned everything, and I taught. I became a teacher. And after doing all of that, I ended up stumbling onto another modern Mystery School, which is what Dr Teresa Bullard talks about. And that school, I was only there for like seven months, and I basically learned that is a very known school. It's called Modern Mystery School, and there's like 40,000 plus people involved in it. There's Dan Lama involved in it. There's the founder. His name is gudmi. I mean, these people are all very powerful, very rich, very strong, and they have a lot of rules and regulations as well. And I was actually studying Kabbalah in that school, even though I have been a Kabbalah teacher myself prior to that. And then I had an episode where they wanted me to sign the nondisclosure agreement, which I refused. So basically, it has always been that my soul takes the precedence over my learning, right? So when I get to the point where people are going to make me say that your loyalty is now with this school and you no longer exist as shanath Soni, you are part of this school, and I'm going to give you the label and the title and your designation. Do you agree? What would you say? No,

Jannecke Øinæs 39:50

I don't like that kind of stuff. I

Shehnaz Soni 39:52

that's and, you know, the interesting thing is that that's what I learned in my entire journey, that all the thing I experienced in Karachi, and I always looked at Karachi. Technology as a place where I learned all the restrictions, limitations, you know, patriarchal culture. But the interesting thing is that I am living in the most modern country now, America. I'm definitely have a very above average credential, you know, to work on a technological advancement, and I still run into the same limitation when I see people's life and when I run into these type of scenarios, isn't it interesting?

Jannecke Øinæs 40:28

Yeah, yeah, it takes some time. Yeah, fascinating. I just love how you are sort of a rebel in such a positive way. And it's so inspiring just to constantly listen with, listen within a follow your own path, your own path all the time, in despite of what everybody's telling you, and that you know, you're a pioneer. And that's so inspiring for other especially women and, of course, also men. But back to your teaching about, I can't remember, yeah, I was asking about, I think, how we create our own reality. I've always been curious, to what degree do we create our own reality? Because there is also the Divine Will, perhaps, and the collective field that is influencing us. So I guess it is a combination, and it is a question about manifestation, you know, could we manifest anything, and to what degree do we actually manifest,

Shehnaz Soni 41:31

right? So there is definitely a consequences of every action, right? And that is the fact. So even, like you know, my life right now, you can look at it from so many different angle, and you can say so depending on what angle you see, you can say that I'm successful or not. It would completely depend on that if I look at my life from from a perspective that I was raised under, where the girl was meant to marry, meant to keep the household going, meant to stay married to the one person. All of that, I failed on all of it. So the interesting thing is, to me, it's like my main message for CO creating a reality is that you do it for you, right? So when you start doing everything for yourself, you're going to start realizing how many things you're doing it for everybody else. Because you know, at the end of the day, the person you live with in every moment is you. You come alone. You leave alone. For the most part, you are the one who's constantly talking to yourself inner voice right. For the most part, anything that you do wrong or anything that you do, right? You get to bear the fruit of it. So when you really see the world with this law of conservation of energy phenomena, understanding that you are constantly transforming and morphing and forming with every decision that you make, every breath that you take, then you become so aware of yourself that you live and breathe like you're alive with everything around you, and you are constantly co creating that reality with every breath that we're taking, because you are making decision with authenticity at the soul level. And then you are willing to live with yourself in every moment, and you are willing to sleep with yourself every night, with that pure conscious that no matter what transformation occurs in your next movement, you are ready.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:36

Now, some believe in a destiny, and like a destiny that might be set in stone, and that's sort of one perspective, and then we have the free will and that we create our own reality. So how could they go together?

Shehnaz Soni 43:53

Yeah, so they do go together. Because, you know, at the end of the day, we do have, it's almost like, okay, so like, if you're playing a video game, and, you know, because this game, this life, is kind of a video game, right? So let's say, when you enter, when you enter the game and when you're about to exit the game, these are predestination, when you came into the, you know, you you were born at a certain space and time convergence point, and you're going to leave at certain time. That is the predestination in this example. Now the free will is that, what are you going to do between the two points? You can look at it like that, right? So what I'm saying is the free will and predestination. People have been very confused about the two words, and I look at both of these words have separate meaning, and they are not conflicting with each other, like I never looked at them as like they're conflicting, because to me, free will is what I just explained like in every moment you are choosing your soul, you're choosing to live with you. Right? Predestination is. That no matter what you choose, you end up collapsing with it. That is a predestination. But at the end of the day, as long as you are incrementally checking in with yourself, then whatever you create becomes in alignment. So it's kind of an interesting dance that you do, right? So, so for example, to me, like the I've been married twice, right? Both my husband's taught me a lot of amazing things. I believe that that was part of my predestiny, to meet them, to experience them, to live with them, to have beautiful children with them. All of that was part of my predestiny, and as much because I wanted to come to America, but if I would have known all the things I would have have to go through with my first marriage, would I choose that route? No, that is the predestiny. You see my point, but the free will is the part where what I did with it, right? How long did I stay married? Then, for example, could be my free will, right? How did I react every time when I felt like I was being violated? Freedom wise, that was my free will. So there is the free will and previously, kind of, they both play their interwoven and from our perspective, because we are kind of conduit in this universe. We should not be. We should only be representing ourselves without getting bog into something that we are not able to represent. You see my point, like, if you are meant to create, let's say you know you are supposed to create a certain nanometer light, for example, that is your job. Then you should focus on, how are you going to get to that light, rather than, why am I not able to go beyond that light? Because then you are not exercising free will, then you are staying in a dilemma, and you are not spreading your optimum light. So in simplicity, what I'm saying is you should do the best in every moment, regardless of your understanding of predestination and free will. Because when you do your best, you're exercising your free will, and you are honoring your predestination, because they are going to they're moving in this in this timeline.

Jannecke Øinæs 47:19

I love how you explain that. It's always been a mystery to me, but I do also believe they go together. Another very interesting thing I know you could speak to is how quantum mechanics or quantum physics, I'm actually not sure if that's the same. I think it's a slight difference there with quantum mechanics and quantum physics. Maybe you can explain that too, but how what we are observing is being influenced by us? I mean, that changes everything. Could you speak a bit to that?

Shehnaz Soni 47:49

Yes, 100% so that is the main ultimate finding from quantum physics. Quantum Mechanics, it has been used interchangeably, so you can as well. But the bottom line is that the double slit experiment that that was done in 1900 proved everybody that consciousness interfered with what they were looking at. And not only that, it interfered. It interfered even if it was a cat or a dog or even a machine. It didn't have to be a human for it to interfere. So now that tells you a lot. That tells you, yeah, so that's why, that's why you know you are glued to the very universe you are co creating, which is why it becomes very challenging for people to comprehend that concept, because it is hard when you can't separate yourself from from what you are experiencing. But that is the fact that you are projecting your consciousness through your experiences. Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 48:56

and that has huge consequences, because when science, you know, scientists are making an experiment, if then they have one thought of a what's the word hypothesis? Hypothesis,

Shehnaz Soni 49:13

hypothesis, ,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:14

hypothesis yes, that will influence the result,

Shehnaz Soni 49:18

right? 100% and you have no idea when I learned about the CRISPR technology, that was the first thing that came in my mind, is because all the people who were working on the CRISPR technology, all the scientists, they all had their own ulterior motives, because they all had children who had certain disease that they were wanting to heal, and not that I'm blaming them for that. But my biggest challenge occurs when you're not able to see yourself as the conduit. You get so carried away in the process that you don't even see that you are just like my first husband, right? He was wanting to please his mom. I keep coming back to that just because I wanted to. Use an example that is very simple to make a point is that sometime you get carried away because you want to do certain thing for certain person, and in the process, you create a lot of ripple effect that may not be good for other people. And that goes with all this technology, including CRISPR, including CERN. And to me, our intention is the driver, right? Our intention is the driver for our manifestation to project back to us. So that intention is something very personal, and only you know in your heart what your intention is. Only I know in my heart what my intention is, and at the end of the day that, to me, is the most beautiful dance that we have is that whatever your intention is is going to come back to you, one way or the other, one form or the other. And that is the golden rule.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:51

And nothing is neutral, then, in a sense,

Shehnaz Soni 50:55

yeah, nothing is because everything has a cause and effect. Because, you know, this world exist based on the foundation of interaction.

Jannecke Øinæs 51:03

Interesting, and I loved what you said in another conversation, that just by becoming aware of an issue or a problem, it is halfway there, because then you put your attention on that I gotta solve this,

Shehnaz Soni 51:21

you have changed it just by even looking at it right, because of the devil's in experiment. So already you've changed it. Now what you do with it, and how far you go and what you do that is all free will, you see. So that's where, like, you know, some people like to live talk about the problem, and live in a problem, and keep creating new problems so they can talk about new problems, so they can look important. And misery loves company. Some people like to live that. But if they can see that pattern, if she can see that pattern, and you say, You know what, I see the pattern, but I'm good with it, then I'm good with it too. But some people do it without even realizing that they are doing

Jannecke Øinæs 51:57

it true that, and can quantum physics explain telepathy? I'm just thinking that I'm noticing that all the time with my partner, is that basically that we're all one, and we're just picking up each other's thoughts because we're part of this field.

Shehnaz Soni 52:16

Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, it makes sense for remote viewing, telepathy, all of those things explained by quantum physics, because the way we understand and comprehend the space and time, all of that becomes questionable when you start looking at everything from from an interwoven way, like everything is layered, and everything is on top of each other, and it all is connected through quantum entanglement. So when you start seeing things from that perspective, it completely takes you away from the linear, linear mindset.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:58

What are your thoughts about the times we're living in now, on the shift of consciousness. Do you think this will become a knowledge in, I don't know, a few years or many, many years.

Shehnaz Soni 53:09

I personally think that everybody is choosing the type of Earth that we are going to live on, and in that choice, we are going to live with people and with the part of the earth that actually is going to embody the quantum physics, like I am already embodying the quantum physics. I am ready to take it to the next level. And similarly, everybody like yourself, you know, who is ready, who's willing? Because it's your free will that's going to decide which playground you want to play. And that decision is going to create 100 monkey effect and a ripple effect. So to me, and the time does not exist in other dimension. So what I am saying is already happening, and then it's your free will that's going to take you to experiences, to playground, to places, to kind of create that spiral that can keep perpetuating itself in the Flower of Life pattern. So that's where I'm going. And based on that, I'm no longer waiting for the whole world to come in concurrence with me. I'm going to keep taking action that's going to create a magic in my life every day, so that way, I do best with my free will.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:33

So inspiring. I love this conversation, and I'm so grateful to have you. I have a few questions that I ask everybody, and the first one is, what is self love to you?

Shehnaz Soni 54:45

Self love to me is representing yourself all the time,

Jannecke Øinæs 54:53

and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Shehnaz Soni 54:58

Think the deeper meaning of life. Is it's truly loving in a way that it's beyond your own comprehension.

Jannecke Øinæs 55:14

Powerful. Now, if people want to go on the journey with you. Can they and how can they do so tell us a little bit about your work now.

Shehnaz Soni 55:25

Yes, so yeah, if people want to take a journey with me, of course, the first step is to get my book, because it does have I project my wisdom through that book. The Quantum being my website is my shehnazsoni.com, right now I'm offering, I'm offering, actually, one on one, coaching, very, very powerful coaching, a life changing coaching. And it's the information is on my website. And you can do a complimentary call if you want to do that. It is, it is like something that's very life changing. So you have to be really ready to truly access new holograms in your life. Because what I say is that that's where your free will comes, right? That Are you really ready to change the channel? Are you really ready to change the broadcast that you're paying for? Are you ready to change it in the television screen that the movie's coming from, because all of these things is accessible to you because of your free will. And you get to choose all that and decide all that, and that's how you get to know yourself, that no matter what happens, you still are immortal.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:42

Ah, beautiful, beautiful ending. Do you have a final message for our audience today?

Shehnaz Soni 56:52

The power we seek is the power within.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:59

Thank you so much for coming on the show. Gosh, this has been incredibly interesting, and I'm going to run and buy a book. I can't wait to it. Thank you so much for coming to the show and for your amazing, amazing work.

Shehnaz Soni 57:15

Thank you. The pleasure is mine.