Tuning into the Web of Life: Discovering Nature’s Channeling Wisdom! With Stephanie Banks 

Stephanie Banks 0:00

We are not the top of anything. We are part of a web of life. We are stardust, and we are the waters that make up the oceans and the living waters, and we are just part of an intricate web. I used to have this tree outside my family's home, and when I would wait for my carpool to pick me up, and I'd be standing out there alone, I would just talk to her, and sometimes I would have very heavy things I was dealing with, like a friend was being mean to me, or I was being excluded. I could feel the presence and care of this tree, and I could feel this loving, accepting energy for me. And sometimes I could hear advice, counsel, wise counsel, coming from a tree, any separation from one's source, any separation from the source of life, from the love of life, from the love that permeates all life, places one in a highly vulnerable position, there is the most amount of healing to be had by those coming back into connection.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03

Stephanie Banks a warm welcome back to the show.

Stephanie Banks 1:07

Thank you. I am so happy to be back here with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:11

I'm excited to have you. You have been on the show before, and we we had a wonderful session where you actually were channeling my higher self. We spoke about my YouTube channel, my work, my previous wife, as a musical theater artist. And you also channeled trees because you're quite a special Channeler in the sense that you channel very earthly things like mother, Gaia, animals, trees, for example. And you have been communicating with plants and trees also, and we're going to hear a bit about like, how that happened, how that blossomed in your life. And I also want to mention that we're so grateful because you are one of our masterclass teachers in wisdom from North membership, where you're teaching our members how to use a pendulum. And that was totally new to me. It's a tool I haven't used, so perhaps we'll dive into that as well. But before we do for everyone who did not watch our previous conversation, could you share a little bit about how you got into this channeling work? Because today, you're having sessions, you're helping people all over the world, and you're an author as well. How did you start channeling in the first place?

Stephanie Banks 2:25

Yeah, so channeling, and the way I define it, is just connecting to divine energy and wisdom. And I'd never heard of it before. This was not something I grew up with exposure to. So it became a thing for me when I met my best friend, this was like, I don't know how many years ago, 18 years ago, and she was a channeler. She was just another mom in my kid's preschool class, and we got together, and we found we had a lot in common and enjoyed spending time together. And she once said to me, or I recommended a book that I had just read, which was Dr Brian Weiss's many lives, many masters, and it had really impacted me. I never heard of past lives before. This was when I was like much my kids were very, very young. And she said, Well, if you're interested in that sort of thing, why don't you go see my mentor who channels and just out of curiosity, I went, I gifted myself a birthday gift to go see this channeler. And it blew my mind, the messages she brought through. She channeled my grandfather and both of my parents. My parents were living. She channeled my higher self. She it was the first experience of like this, the beautiful, deep essence, connection to one's truest self and one's soul family. And I came home with my head spinning, and I thought, What? What was that? What just happened? How do I dive in more deeply to this? And eventually, my best friend and I started hosting channeling groups, where she would do the channeling, but I would gather the people and find the venues. And eventually I started noticing that I also was hearing messages as she was channeling. I was getting my own form of connection to spirit, and things were images were coming through, words were coming through, and it took me years of training before I trusted that, before I began to bring that out into my as my profession right now, but that was the early start of it, and as part of that friendship, I asked her if she would please channel my mom for me, because that was a relationship I was struggling with. My mother had dementia that started in her maybe late 40s, and it was really hard, very, very hard on us to have a healthy relationship and communicate well and understand each other, and things weren't really falling apart. So I thought if I could hear from my mom's soul through this best friend who I. Trust, who does this very well? Then maybe this will help our relationship. Maybe it will offer me some clarity. What are our souls here to do together? How can I how can I avoid these arguments and fights that seem so nonsensical, and how can I be more of the daughter she needs me to be, and also get my needs met. So she channeled my mom that changed everything. It really offered a lot of health and repair and depth to what I understood of our soul agreements. And I'm really happy to say that for the remainder of my mother's earthly experience, it allowed us to be much more deeply connected and have a lot more fun. So that was my exposure and beginning to channeling. And when I saw what it did for that relationship with my mom, I knew I have to learn to do this for myself. I have to apply this to other areas of my life. Because it's only an enhancement. It just it lets me live with so much more peace and clarity, and isn't that what we need now?

Jannecke Øinæs 6:04

Oh, yeah, for sure. And when was the time when you started to hear messages also, then from trees, and I guess it's also plants, perhaps animals as well.

Stephanie Banks 6:14

Yeah, that all started when I was young, like when I was a child. I used to have this tree outside my family's home, and when I would wait for my carpool to pick me up, and I'd be standing out there alone, I would just talk to her and and sometimes I would have very heavy things I was dealing with, like a friend was being mean to me, or I was being excluded, or, you know, the second and third grade woes. And I could feel the presence and care of this tree, and I could feel her holding this loving, accepting energy for me. And sometimes I could hear advice, counsel, wise counsel, coming from a tree. I didn't talk about it then because I didn't think it was weird, and it felt so deeply personal and precious that I just, I just kind of held that, but I've always had communication with animals, both domestic and wild animals and trees and plants, and it's anyone can do this. We're all actually that connected to the natural world, and we certainly are as children. But then we get busy, or we start to doubt ourselves, or insecurity, you know, is introduced at some point. So we lose that connection, but we can come back to it. And it is the natural world is the most beautiful, powerful, purely positive, vibrational field you can tune into. So I recommend it.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:35

That's good to hear. I do think, though, that some people have a knack for it, sort of that I'm born with a singing voice, and others can learn to sing, but it's more easy natural for me to sing, in a way, because it does make sense that you have this in your childhood, and then sort of you forgot all about it, and then it blossomed, and then you have this ability, and it's Then easier to sort of develop it even more, even though I do think we're all connected, I can just speak for myself. It just feels a bit harder. I when I try to hear things, I feel like it's my own voice. And that leads me to the question, how do you know if it's your own mind making it up to make you feel comfortable? And that is actually an external things communicating with you,

Stephanie Banks 8:25

yeah? And that is the thing that really gets in the way most of the time, with people trusting their inner voice of wisdom and their connection. So this idea of the imagination being false, right? Like, if I'm making it up, it must be wrong. Is so false in itself, because the imagination is the most real thing about humans that there could be. And if you look around the room you're sitting in, or you look at what's on your tabletops, or the furniture in your home, or any object whatsoever was first imagined, before it came into form. There was a time when it was nothingness, it was no form. And then someone thought, Hmm, I wonder if I created four legs and a flat surface, if I can make a table, and that would make it easier to eat at a surface that's a little bit raised, right? This had to come through imagination. And so we're sitting here saying, oh, that's that's a problem. That's wrong if you're making it up. But I actually say the opposite, if you're wondering if you're making it up. Celebrate that, because there's nothing wrong with your imagination. The truth is, we are making this up all the time, every day, every second. Danica, you made up your podcast. Does that make it not real? No, it makes it amazing. And that's why so many people listen and follow you know your work and the people you're interviewing, and the same goes. You know, I see oracle cards behind you. Do you know? Of course, those were imagined, right? They don't just come into being out of. Out of nothing. Somebody is seeing the imagery and creating the art. That's their imagination. Somebody is channeling the messages. Channeling comes through imagination. I wouldn't be able to channel if I didn't first, if I wasn't first, willing to be open to and receive, and I am making it up, along with the guys who are making it up along with me. And yeah, that's real. We can trust that we can celebrate that.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:23

I love that perspective. It's really empowering also. And I mean we, from my perspective, we're all one, so I mean, it's coming from a wise source, and as long as it is empowering, that is lifting you and not bringing you down, that is also something I am like differentiating when I hear something, yeah,

Stephanie Banks 10:44

that's it. It's, we want to differentiate based on how it feels, not based on whether we are afraid we're making it up. But how does that transmission feel to you? How does that knowingness feel? If it's something that feels open and warm and you want to kind of lean into you can assume that to be of the highest loving guidance. If it's something that creates a lot of fear and constriction in you, chances are that's your ego taking part in wanting to keep you safe, or something maybe that you were told from long ago that you have held on to as a place of fear. And you you can release that you that is not likely to be something that serves you. So in your discernment, it's not whether you're making up, it's how it feels. You can trust that,

Jannecke Øinæs 11:31

right? And I feel a question is really pressing on my mind right now, and maybe it's a channeling answer to this. I'm curious what Mother Earth, Gaia, and the plants and trees think, feel about the big ship of consciousness, like, what's happening on the planet. They're probably fully aware, or, I would assume, is that something you would like to channel, or would you like to Yeah,

Stephanie Banks 12:01

I can speak to it, and then we can channel it and see if I'm wrong. I'm always happy to be wrong based on my connection to the natural world and what I have already channeled previously. Yes, you're right. There is total awareness and consciousness in every living being, and as humans, we have this hierarchy right, which is faulty as well. We are not the top of anything. We are part of a web of life. We are stardust, and we are the waters that make up the oceans and the living waters, and we are just part of an intricate web so and not even like the most important part by any stretch. So this requires, like, a reorganizing of the way that the cultural and societal conditioning has been and oftentimes, a lot of religions will place humans at the absolute top of this. But I do not consider myself any more or less important or valuable than a spider, than a worm, than a bird, than a tree. Like we're all we're all this living, you know, energy with spirit infused throughout us, and we're meant to be in support and for humans, because we have the ability to think and to plan and to execute on so many different high thought levels to protect that which is precious, which is all life. So on the one hand, yes, there is awareness of the natural world and Gaia very much, very much wants us and is eager for us to awaken to our part that we play in this beautiful web, because when we know what's ours to do, what's ours to feel, how, what's ours to activate within we can like it brings us back just to the truth of of who we are and how, and our connection to the more vast, Wild, Wonderful World. So she's eager for that, because right now, the pain that and the suffering that humans are feeling, which is also felt by the Earth, she feels what we feel. She is Mother Earth. A mother does feel what her children are are doing or are going through, are experiencing, are actioning around. So this suffering that we are feeling collectively at our own hands, at our own you know, actions, is something that it's correctable. And there are ways that the natural world has of correcting things. Fires is one way, disasters is another. This is an attempt to rebalance because we've been stealing all the trees from the land, and so that's a natural cooling mechanism, right? So she can't cool herself. How is she going to do that? We've been like, I could go on and on, because this is the ecological part of things that is in such a dire situation. But we are, all of us, individually. And collectively striving for rebalancing and the planet, the living planet, the wild planet, is as well, and we're a part of that. The sooner we awaken to that, the more we can reconnect with each other, with community, with the greater world of all living beings and and create that more beautiful world that our hearts know is possible. So that's what I will say to that's a big deal. It's a big question. It's really, really important. And I don't believe that any true healing can take place with the exclusion or the separation of ourselves from nature.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:38

That makes sense? We are nature, correct? Should we bring Gaia in just for this question, and I can maybe ask,

Stephanie Banks 15:48

yes, yeah, absolutely. Just to articulate again your question, do you want to go through it again just or, or if it's changed at all, just let me know what. What is your question for Mother Earth,

Jannecke Øinæs 15:59

yes, if I can ask a couple of questions, because, yeah, I should probably take them all. I'm wondering if you Gaia has moved into another dimension or slash density already, and sort of that we, as perhaps your children are coming after. And I'm also curious about your state of consciousness. Is it pure love? Is that the sort of the consciousness or the main focus you have that you're resonating on?

Stephanie Banks 16:35

Beautiful, beautifully. Said, Okay, let's tune in to our dear, precious, magnificent Mother Earth.

Stephanie Banks 16:49

Of course, it is a joy and pleasure to be in this with you right now and to hear your questions, because it is never about the words you are using. It is about the feeling that you have, that you bring it is about the reverence and for you, dear, dear, dear, dear, precious daughter, I do so appreciate the model of reverence and respect and care and honor that you bring to me. So I thank you for this, and may it continue for countless days and countless moments and countless years, as you are a teacher for so many as you are the embodiment of love and care and compassion and peace and regenerative energy. Did you know that? Did you know that about yourself? Allow for me to be the one to tell you, just in case you did not as far as my consciousness goes, I keep, I keep just a step or two ahead of my dear, precious children. Because, of course, someone needs to know the path, don't they? Someone needs to know where it is that that course is being charted. Now, there will be some who say it is already destined. There's already it is already determined where the humans will end up, how this will all turn out. They like to say, but I would say something very different. I would say, Who can know? Who can know when each of those walking on two legs as humans has been gifted the free will? Who can know how they will exercise their free will? Who can know how things will shift and change when you can change your mind on a in a moment on a on a dime, as it were, and then the entire outcome can shift? Who can know when there is healing that is being had by relationships that are being healed from human to human and human to animal and human to plant and human to stone and human to river and human to ocean. These. These are the relationships that I would guide all of you, all of you listening, all of you caring to be in the healing of because even if you have always had a love for for me and for all of my creatures and beings and waters and mountains and deserts and such, it can go it must go deeper, there is still something to be healed. Because it is not about an individual's relationship to all that I have mentioned, all that I am. It is about how that individual can also model and teach, as I have mentioned, my dear one, as you are doing right now. So my consciousness will, will always hold something slightly different than than what the human consciousness holds. This is very difficult to explain and I, and I, I dare, I dare say that it is not necessary to understand it just now that we are operating towards the same end, which is transcendence of of limitation, transcendence of destruction, Transcendence that goes, that goes back all the way back to the very beginning of time, which is love, love, love, love. So that is how I would say that now, in terms of of the energy that I emanate, it is always constant. You will always feel, no matter how much suffering I am enduring and the suffering is. Quite great. I must be clear, you will always feel a generosity for me. You will always feel love for me. You will always feel abundance from me, even when I am plucked to my last sprout. For the greed of humans, can be quite overwhelming. You will still find that that life itself will want to surface, will strive and fight to surface in order to be of abundance, in order to be of generosity, in order to nurture. So that is what you will always know of me, anything else that you feel, anything heavy, anything scary, anything dense, that is not mine. That is not what I am rippling out, that is not what I am offering to you. I will never offer to you that, not even with the storms, not even with the fires, not even with what you might call the natural disasters. For you can trace all of these back to a place and point of origin, and it does come back to whether or not my children are feeling the love and the care of their mother and reciprocating that reciprocity is something absolutely essential in the healing of this relationship, and so I would bring that to the center as well. Thank you again for your enormously astute questions. I stand by for any further counsel as it is needed.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:19

I love her, yeah, I got really touched there. I could, like, feel it, yes, yeah. I felt her energy. I have to ask the question. I think some in my audience are wondering about this, and I know it's controversial, but could we go back with, to Gaia.

Stephanie Banks 21:40

She said, I'm sticking around, so let's all right,

Jannecke Øinæs 21:45

okay. So is global warming, human made, or is it natural?

Stephanie Banks 21:51

Okay, isn't this a funny thing? The fact that this remains a question, is such a funny, funny, funny thing, and so I do not get stuck myself in any sort of cognition. I have no use for it. The thinking and the rumination is nothing that I need to do. And boy, am I grateful that I do not get stuck in this trap. But here is what I will say for those who do find themselves confused by this question, this level of chaos, this level of change, as it relates to and you are pinpointing it on climate, which I will follow along with, is without question, a result of actions And a result of choices. There can be no question. There must be no question. This has already been proven and proven and proven for those that wish to follow what they know and understand as science, and yet still, there will be the sounds made and the words uttered and the insistence ushered and the fists pounding about it being otherwise. And I must tell you, no, no, no, that is not so. If this is a result, this time is a result of human actions, of human choices, of human decisions. And because of this, it is ever more imperative that this be recognized, that there not be time and moment wasted in inert despair, but there be action equal equal action in the direction of repair, in the direction of healing, in the direction of reciprocity, in the direction of replanting, regenerate, regeneration and the like. This is how humans heal themselves by healing their planet.

Jannecke Øinæs 23:43

Thank you. Yeah. And then I saw a question in the common field, why does not anyone ask about the dinosaurs? And I thought, Okay, this is a great chance. So the dinosaurs, I mean, they remind me of dragons, and it seems like dragons are coming back and being channeled a lot now. So why did the dinosaurs disappear all of a sudden?

Stephanie Banks 24:08

Oh, I've never channeled that before. Let's see. This is also from Mother Earth. Well, sweet one, you can and should go back to the books on that again. I would direct you into what the humans call science, because this is something that has been proven, and the human mind absolutely needs to know why, why? And so you would look for the proof. You would look for the evidence. And so as a collective, as a collective, which is what you are really asking about, why did you all leave? Why did you all not choose different ways, different avenues to stick around. Didn't you want to see what it would be like to roam the Earth along alongside us? These, these wondrous, interesting, fascinating humans. This is what, this is what the words might be if, if I were to give you the words for this question, and here is what this collective of dinosaurs as you know them, would would rather say. Okay. No, thank you. No, thank you. We had our time. We knew our time. We lived our time. Our time was grand. Our time was incredibly powerful, and none of it had to be anything other than what it was. And we have left you with many gifts, and you are welcome for that, and in the continued uncovering of the gifts which, by the way, we are not speaking of as fossil fuels. In case those of you were thinking that was the gift we were leaving, we are speaking of the hints that we have left and the treasures that we have left. You humans have been on a vast treasure hunt ever, ever since you it came to be understood that those the likes of us, the size of us and even the minusculeness of us in some of these species, is something of fascination. We will always have a place of the fascination, especially especially within the children. So the reason we came was to live for a bit, the very same reason that you came.

Jannecke Øinæs 26:08

All right. okay, I'm not sure if you can answer this, because it might be a metaphysical answer. But is there any way we could look into how old Earth is, how old Gaia is.

Stephanie Banks 26:25

Oh, I don't, I wouldn't be able to channel that, just because it's a, like a numerics kind of thing. And she, she'd say, go, go to the science like that. That would be her answer to to locate this

Jannecke Øinæs 26:38

is that because there are certain things were not meant to know.

Stephanie Banks 26:43

Let me ask her, let me ask her to bring wisdom here. Well, I can answer the question. It will not come through in numbers, however, because this is not something that can be limited to a measurement amount I have existed always, always, even, even before it could be, even before life could be traced on this big floating ball, as some do refer to me. And so the essence of me, the energy of me, has been in the sphere, in the field for ever. Can you imagine what forever means? You cannot, of course, it is impossible. But know that my taking shape and my taking form and my giving birth over and over and hope over billions of times over has been something of a newer gift that I was graced with, that I was granted, or perhaps I should say, that I invoked. And so the power of of me and my ability to be of host to all forms of life is really quite something. It is much newer than the existence of me.

Jannecke Øinæs 28:04

Thank you, isn't it? Yeah, huh? All right, so I would like to jump over to like other general questions that I'm curious about, and maybe it's my higher self was going to answer. I don't know, but I'm curious about depression. I mean, says that one out of four is experiencing it. Just met some girlfriends where we were speaking about this. It seems like many, many people are struggling with it. And we speak about raising our vibration, and that seems like it's sort of a long way up there to raise your vibration when you just feel you have a cloud over your head. And I'm curious why it is that so many are experiencing this, and the way out, how do we actually feel lighter when it just feels like it's thrust upon us.

Stephanie Banks 29:01

Yep, yep, so we're gonna stick with Mother Earth on that one.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:05

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Stephanie Banks 30:09

Yeah, she's wanting to speak to that. This is of deep concern for me as well. I feel the sadness. I feel everything, everything, everything that my children, that my beings, that my living ones are going through. I feel it all acutely, just as you do. And so what I would like to underscore here is that this is this is not new. It's not a new feeling. It's not a new set of diagnostic criteria. It is something that for whose time has come to be recognized, and the brave ones who are willing to engage in in the exploration, in the definition, in the sharing in the honesty, in the integrity of their true lived experience, of their true emotional experience, of their true spiritual experience. Well, hats off to them. Wouldn't you say? What courage, what bravery it is to acknowledge what is true and what is so I can tell you this. I can tell you that any separation from one's source, any separation from the from the source of life, from the love of life, from the love that permeates all life, any separation at all places, one in a highly vulnerable position to to fall lower in their frequency, You might say, but I would say in their emotional energetics, because how, how would it feel to be separated from one's mother? Devastating, one might say, would that be enough to cause extreme anxiety? Certainly, would that be enough to cause any, any level in the severity of depression? Certainly it would. And so I would not, I would not at all purport that this is a simple answer. I will say however, that that the ex, the lived experience of separation, of separateness from another, from a greater, from a love that is greater, from a full and true acceptance, is absolutely, a major contributing factor to those who are experiencing what you are describing as clinical depression. And so I will not also project out there that there is one way of addressing this. There are many, many, many ways. And it is a call to action for for certain it is, but it's not incumbent upon those experiencing is not on their shoulders to to heal themselves or fix this situation. If this is a collective action, this is all a family, all of community, all of humanity, all of life, coming together for the upliftment, for the betterment, for the love, for the care, for the warmth of bringing healing to to oneself and to all others that one is connected with. So when you have a loved one that is experiencing this, open up your heart even more. Do not worry about anything being contagious. Here, you might laugh and say that was not a concern, but actually it is a concern, and it is a it is an understandable concern, because the humans have been taught to fear one another. The humans have been taught to loathe one another, the humans have been taught to separate from one another. And if the humans cannot unlearn and reteach and come back together in this communal effort, then I should dare say, the numbers will go greater and greater, higher and higher, more and more, and those who are falling prey to the true experience, the the deep sadness of being separate from themselves, from the love that is available to all, regardless of regardless of species, regardless of of anything, of shape, of size, of color of background. And so here's what I will tell you, there is the most amount of healing to be had by those coming back to me, coming back into connection with me, coming back into the awe of my beautiful and oh so astoundingly entertaining creatures and critters, so as much as possible. For those who are in suffering, which I would say is pretty much everybody, get get yourself to your place. I will illuminate it for you. I will show you what it is. It is not within walls. It is not within walls. It is in the great, grand outdoors, below father sky, above Mother Earth in the in between of the preciousness of life itself. That is where healing begins. That is where it continues, that it that is where it carries forward.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:54

Yeah, so nature, yes, be a healing avenue that.

Stephanie Banks 34:59

Absolutely and I don't know about you, jannecke, but I feel that that's my place that I have to go to when I'm losing my mind, which happens almost daily, right in today's culture or discord. And there is something I just have yet to hear anyone say to me, Oh, I get so grumpy looking at butterflies. Who says that? Right? Nobody. Or is so annoying to watch the birds at my birdseeder, no. Or, you know the miracle of watching a plant grow a little seed that you planted, and you go to sleep, and one day it's broken through the top of the earth, and it's like this life, and eventually it's going to be a vegetable, and it's going to nourish your body's life. So this is, this is where the magic lies. And depression is a real thing. Anxiety is a real thing. Nobody's diminishing this at all. It is serious, it is overwhelming, and we need to find our spaces where we can get an instant like lift of our heart and instant nourishment. And nature, in my opinion, is where that is at.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:10

And it's free, free.

Stephanie Banks 36:14

And like she said, oh so entertaining. Nature's they're hilarious. Have you ever watched two squirrels, you know, just chase each other, chase each other, make those noises, flick their tails. Hilarious. Dogs, I'm a big fan of dogs. Like my dogs keep me entertained every single day.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:33

Yeah. I mean, I've been often thinking about when I go for a walk, that there's universes within universes, within universes. Because when you look down on just some leaves, or something like a minuscule something, you look down, maybe there's an ant and a few. They're in their own universe, and it's vast for them, and that's in this tiny spot outside my door. And then they don't know about, or I don't know what they know, but you know, they have their own little system universe there, and just imagine then that there's nothing outside this earth, or like, not intelligent life outside this earth. I'm like, how is that even possible to think

Stephanie Banks 37:12

exactly, exactly? It's remarkable. And I have a dear friend who, you know, I'm in Florida, she's all the way in California, but we will share voice texts with each other when we find a worm that's on a sidewalk really struggling, like it's drying out, it's really hot. So we'll pick up the worm, and we'll find a little earthy place and put the worm in the earthy place, and we'll just celebrate that. Or she, she knows how to care for bees that have been grounded, because when you see bees on the ground, she, from what she's told me, that's not a great thing, you know, they they have lost energy, and so she will come out with a little bit of honey, and the bee will eat the honey and fly away. It's just magic to me, and this is how we come back to our place in the web, right? Just if you witness something or someone in need of support, be that it will cure you. It will enliven you and enlighten your heart.

Jannecke Øinæs 38:08

Yeah. And I think also, there's a symbolism, like life is speaking to us, or Gaia is speaking to us all the time through, like, all of a sudden seeing a deer, like every time on the jogging tour, I've seen a deer and like, three, four times, and I feel like that's a sign of something, and I could interpret it as nothing, but I do want to put value to it, because I do think life is talking to us.

Stephanie Banks 38:34

It is. And when you do see an animal once, or like you're saying repeatedly, look up the significance of that spirit animal there. I have oracle cards behind me that are just that I remember this is a crazy story, as I was getting divorced, which I did during the pandemic. So if you are going to I highly recommend that, because it all happened online, and nobody had to walk into a courtroom, but I was sitting with my attorney in a room, and she noticed something behind me on a bookshelf, and it just happened to be that I had this unusual opportunity to share with my attorney a deck of oracle cards. Now most attorneys are probably not familiar with oracle cards, right? It's not part of their their schooling, or their, you know, their left brain thinking. So I showed her how they worked. This was a deck of animal oracle cards, and I said, so first you'd ask a question like, What? What advice, what counsel, what wisdom do I need right now that will support me with what I'm going through? So I asked that question. I close my eyes, I randomly picked a card, and the card I picked was manatee, and the message of manatee was, lay down your sword. And there I am in the middle of all the swords, right, my own included. And her jaw dropped, and mine too. And she said, Are you? Are you willing to do? That. Are you prepared to do that? And, and, yeah. I mean, if manatee is telling me, you know, this is, this is the path, this is the way, so I did, and this is the wisdom of of nature. This is and the deer, I don't remember what the characteristics of our deer, of you know, is of deer, but you look that up, and you'll see how it relates to you.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:22

Fascinating. All right, so I'm going to jump back to my gazillion questions here that have this special opportunity, you know. So this relates to you as well, and also some of my friends, of my parents, dementia, Alzheimer. Why is it that some people are getting this and are forgetting the last parts of their lives? Like to me, there's, of course, an acceptance around it, but I think it's sad. My ego thinks it's sad, but that's the way you should end your life that you're forgetting perhaps the people you love and those who love you have a difficult time. Why is that the exit for so many people?

Stephanie Banks 41:15

So one soul that's here that would like to come through is my mother. And I have never channeled my mother on an interview before, so I am, if you're game, I'm I'm game. Yeah, being that she is someone who a soul who has had the lived experience in her most recent lifetime of dementia, I feel like there's some sharing that wants to be had here. Okay, I'm so impressed with her that she found a way to appear on a show with me. Okay? And I am impressed with you as well, my daughter. Okay, here's what I would like to say, here's what I would like to share, here's what I would like to teach. This is very, very important. First of all, for those who are witnessing others in this process, understand that it is a process that that just because one is a certain way, when they awaken, they will not be that way in five minutes or in an hour or three hours or by sundown. And so just if you can, wherever you can, however you can just ride the waves with them. Just be with them. Just join them in whatever it is that their their experience is, whatever it is that they decide that they believe to be their reality. This is, this is so very important because part of part of the the pain, part of the separation, is that there are, let's say, two, two people having a shared moment together, and the moments are wildly different, and the person who has expectation of being known or being called By the correct name or being spoken to in a certain way, or having a certain set of pre predetermined or or historically present in ways of interacting. That person has all of these expectations on another who doesn't. That's it. They just don't part of the experience of dementia is that some of these expectations, some of these social norms, some of these sorts of things are swiped away. They're cleared. This can be a gift. This, in many, many ways, can be a gift. And so it is difficult, however, to be in interaction when one is when one person is compromised with their access to language. Of course, that is something that is oftentimes disturbed and disintegrating and with their access to clear memories and and here's where it gets even tougher, those without the memories or the ability to express the memories or the ability to express the language can have a much smoother experience of this experience, if they were not also picking up on the upset, the sadness, the loss, the frustration, the despondency of their beloved, who is remembering who they were, how they were, how they used to be. Now, there is no blame here, but this is a dynamic, and I'm pointing it out as such, because I have always been a fan of communication. I have always loved written communication. I have always loved verbal communication. I have always loved hummed communication, sound communication, Sung communication. And so this is where the task lies in finding other ways to continue to have that type of exchange, to continue to communicate. And there are so many ways, and you must find different ones. And that is the best advice that I. Offer to you. And it may also seem as though this affliction is occurring similar to what you brought up about depression to more and more and more people. And what I would say is that that can be traced to also traced back to also human behaviors. There's a toxification in the water system, in the air system, in the food system, in the in the land. This did not come from the land. This was not caused by the land. This is caused by human actions and behaviors. And anything that is breathed in, that is ingested, that is absorbed, that is toxic, will, of course, of course, affect body and brain, spinal column fluids, everything, everything. So you could look into that, if you are of scientific mind and wanting to find causes that, to me, is nothing of great importance. What is of great importance. And what my message is, is that there are many, many ways to shift the dynamic in favor of the person who is the most compromised. And I am inviting everyone to consider that and do that. And this does not mean that your sad feelings and your feelings of of distance are not real, and this does not mean that you do not desperately want your loved one to go back to who they were. But I want to say something else. I want to say that your loved one is still who they were. Their capacities and abilities have changed. Have become very different, have maybe even broken apart or diminished, quite likely, yes, I would say so. But who they are has not. And I would also propose this, and this may blow your minds, but I would say that regardless of the fact that I could not seem to remember anything, I in fact, remembered everything. Hmm, wow. So what she means by that? Because I understood I understood it as the message was coming. All the experiences that we have are encoded, and it not only in our memory bank in the brain. Thankfully, they're encoded by the soul. There's an entire the Akashic records are proof of this, right, like we have these records of these relationships and these experiences and these things that we've done. And there are people who specialize in their reading of Akashic records and can tell you who you've been, how you've been, who, what this is about for you. So what she's saying, Thank you, Mom, is that we I'm including myself here because I walked that walk with her. It was devastating, frustrating, those things I really wanted her to remember, like the time when she said, why do people keep call saying that you're my daughter? She said that to me in a car ride, and I was crushed for a moment, until I remembered she know, she already knows. She's just not able to access it through those, you know, synapses and neurons and flow. And so I was curious. In that moment when my mom said, why do people keep referring to you as my daughter? I was curious, who do I feel like to her? So I asked her, what does our relationship feel like to you? Instead of telling her, because I am your daughter, what do you mean? Okay, remember when I was two, and we did this, and when I was four, and we did like that's not helpful. But instead, I went to, what is her experience? What does this relationship feel like to you? And she said, you feel like my best friend, hmm, and jannecke. That's even better than daughter, as far as I'm concerned, it's a promotion, right? Because daughter is so it was such a complex, complicated relationship. But this is what, and this is what channeling allowed me to do with my mom. If I hadn't been attuning to our souls, I wouldn't have known there's all this other stuff there too that I could learn from, that I could give her more space around. I don't really care if she knew the word for our relationship. What I care about is how she feels with me. So it's a game changer.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:17

Yeah, oh yeah. I feel like just spirituality in general is so enriching in so many ways. Yes, um, the last time you channeled my higher self, and we looked into my YouTube channel, and I shared a little bit about that, that I was surprised that it's all of a sudden started growing, and you spoke about that I was going to write, and I talked about timing, or time that I didn't have enough time I would love to hear what my higher self is saying. Now, I have planned out. It's almost scary to say it, but I planned out to block out some time where I'm going to dive into writing. And I know the topic, but I. Do not know how, so I'm just curious to know if my higher self has something to say about where we are with Wisdom From North right now, we've done so many more interviews, and the show has grown so much. I'm more busy than ever, and still I'm not so concerned about reaching a goal, like, Oh, I'm going to have a million subscribers. It's not that important to me, even though I do appreciate that they're reaching out. So it's sort of a sort of a lack of a goal these episodes. So if she could address that, and also address perhaps, if she has some uh, wisdom to give me about writing. Yeah.

Stephanie Banks 50:46

So right now, a very strong presence is here, and it's your writing guides. So let's tune into them, okay, and they're going to explain, they're going to respond to your other questions as well that you're asking of your higher self, because they're all really blended. I mean, we're calling them guides and higher self, but spirit is spirit is spirit. So let's tune into these writing guides of yours and hear what they have. We are excited, excited, so excited to hear you speak of this, because this is the goal. This is where your attention, where your resources, where your eyeballs belong, for for now, until then, for the next 9.3 months, you will want to mark the calendar, because you are one who appreciates specificity, and so Mark that down from this day for the next 9.3 months. And then you will give yourself permission, because it is within a defined period of time to really, really go deep. And we love how you say that you have set aside some time for this, because, well, we find that very amusing. It is not you setting aside the time, although, yes, we understand how that works. It is actually the time that will need to have its way with you. So go ahead, dear one, and set aside all the time you think you need to set aside. You will want to block it, to protect it, to ensure that you are not going to be distracted with technological beeps, dings or rings. And you will also want to make sure that others know that you are writing, oh, yes, you must come clean here. You must say, I am going to enter my writing mode from now until the next however many hours, and I ask that all anything, unless absolutely urgent, be held until after that period of time. And by the way, as we've said, you will designate the time, but we will allow for time to designate what it needs from you. So as you are in flow, do not limit yourself. Do not do not stop when your timer goes off, an idea is only good for as long as you allow it to be present with you. And once you do not capture an idea or follow the flow, guess what it goes on down the river, and somebody upstream or even downstream is going to pick it up and run with it. We're not saying this so you feel some sort of scarcity or some sort of threat. No, it's just that people do not understand that ideas are gifts from spirit. Oh, I love that. And so if you are not ready or not willing or not able to capture and grow and play with and pay attention to something as it is coming through. It will come round again, but it will likely be in a different form, and you may feel very differently about it. So we are saying this now again, not to create stress through urgency, but for you to understand that that what comes through at the moment it comes through is meant to be recognized by you. So give it the time and give it the space and just put pause, push pause on everything else until at least you can plant it somewhere, into a notebook, into a recorded device, into a computer, anywhere, anywhere but make sure you give it a landing place. Now nothing has changed in terms of your other work, service to the world, your service to the world continues to expand in and on itself. It's just that you don't have to work so hard to set these milestones and goals and track them. So good on you. Good on you, dear one, for not forcing yourself to nail something down and then take those upward steps up the mountain, one at a time, one at a time, so so sweaty, so much exertion here. No, the thing that you have done recently, in fact, very, very recently, is you have given this over to the energies that are meant to be in charge of this growth. We're speaking of your channel as you call it, or your podcast offering interviews as you call them. We are speaking to that you have a team, an invisible team, a very capable invisible team who is driving this now. And so thank them. Each and every day, thank them, because they know they know the pace, and they know that things for the moment, for the next 9.3 months, are to be shifted into their capable hands, onto their capable backs and wings, in order for you to continue to achieve what feels really good and wondrous and full of awe to you, and nothing that feels demanding or weighty or constricting to you. So that is what we have to say. Did we miss anything?

Jannecke Øinæs 55:34

No, that was very helpful, because that's actually what's happening. I'm doing a lot of episodes in a short amount of time right now in order to have that break so it's it's organized, but it's great to have that confirmed. It really helps with that confirmation, you know, gives also the self confidence to actually put myself down to the desk and start writing

Stephanie Banks 55:59

Yes, yes, yes. And also this the permission to extend when you when you hit your flow. Because with writing, I know this personally as well. Sometimes you can struggle for like, three of the four hours that you've designated for writing, and the mind is wandering and there's too much, you know, it's just not and that's that last hour, or sometimes the last 15 minutes, you're like, oh, here we go. Here we go. So just melt with time. Just let it have its way with you, like your guides were saying, Keep keep going. Everything else can wait. Flow is yours to claim.

Jannecke Øinæs 56:39

Very helpful. Thank you. And then I wanted to touch upon the pendulum. So that is a powerful tool. So for everybody new to the membership, I also have a membership, not just this YouTube channel, and we've had it for several years, where we have different master classes teaching different things within spirituality, and you are our master class teacher for the summer. And guys, you're so welcome to join us, of course. And you taught our members how to use the pendulum. Could you share a little bit how you've used it in your life and why it's so powerful?

Stephanie Banks 57:18

Yeah, well, my very first channeling teacher started us by using a pendulum. So a pendulum is just a crystal or piece of wood or weight on the end of a string or chain or something, and because of the gravity that it holds and the way that you can learn to use it, you can actually use it as a tool to gain insight and information and answers to questions. So when you used to learn it, when you learn to use it properly, it can be a very, very powerful and fun tool. And so my mentor had us working with alphabet grids, which looks something similar to this. I've had this customized so that my students who take my classes can use this, because I like the I'm I'm really picky about the shape and the size of it, but it's basically all the letters of an alphabet, whatever alphabet is in your language, and then all the numerics. And you can use a pendulum to answer yes and no questions you can establish like, for example, mind swings clockwise for yes and counterclockwise for now, there's a way to teach this, a way to establish that consistently, and then you can start to ask questions that you really need guidance around. Like, does it serve my highest good to to pay more attention to this particular relationship. And if the answer is no, then you might ask, does it serve my highest good to establish more distance in this relationship? And then you watch her. So these are just examples, but sky's the limit with what you can really ask about and what, what I love about teaching the pendulum, and what I didn't realize years and years ago when I was a student learning the pendulum is, it is a wonderful way to hone one's attentional capacity, and that's something that's really limited for A lot of us right now, and technology is, I'm going to say, a lot to blame we have now. We have short videos right that are like, What 30 seconds, and the human attention span seems to have shrunk down to literally that. So when you work with a pendulum, you have to be paying attention. You have to be clear about the way you ask your question, focused on how your pendulum is moving for the answer, watching for the letters that it is spelling out Patience, patience, patience and focus, focus, focus. It is a very good way to build your commitment to your spiritual practice and growth. Having said. That it's not the only tool, and you don't ever have to get good at it, but just practicing it is a way of showing up for yourself. And your guides see you. They see you at the table like, Okay, please move. I hope I get an answer today, and that is just an invitation for them, for your team to surround you to come in. You can with a pendulum. You can say, I, in this practice today, I would really like to call in my dear grandma rose. I would love to hear her guidance or have her support around something I'm struggling with. And you can, you know then, then you can ask, Are you are you present with me, Grandma Rose? And you can wait for your yes or no, mine is already going so this is some of the joys of using a pendulum, and it can also be a very frustrating tool. For the same reasons, you have to have a lot of focus, a lot of attention, a lot of patience. But I love it. I love to teach it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:57

Yeah, I love to learn about it. And you went such in depth in the master class. So I really felt that I was safe in that, because I always have so many questions about everything, and you just answer them all beautiful class. Before we wrap up, I would like to ask you, Stephanie, your perspective about the shift of consciousness we find ourselves in where do you see humanity is right now, and where are we going as an intuitive

Stephanie Banks 1:01:28

Well, I my soul is here, yes, in service to humanity, and equally or more so in service to all you know, the more than human beings. That's what I call them, the more than human beings. And so I actually feel pain in my body with the destruction that we are doing, like the Gaia or the guides before we're talking about the toxic or maybe it was my mother detoxification of the air, of the water of the, you know, like we're poisoning our own well here. And so I feel that we do need to talk about consciousness, but how much is that going to serve us if we are not in the repair of the planetary harm that we have caused? So I wanted to invite everybody to tap into one thing that breaks your heart, one thing. It could be the plight of children. It could be, you know, clean air. It could be whatever it is dolphins, right? It doesn't matter what it is. But find that thing that absolutely just crushes you emotionally when you think about what is happening to those beings and then go in action and in service to that, that will raise your consciousness, that will raise the collective consciousness being in service to something greater than ourselves, something more than ourselves, that is the answer. It's not about the spiritual practices. That's not going to be what makes the difference to the lived, planetary experience. That's my opinion,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:01

right? And will humanity make it?

Stephanie Banks 1:03:06

Let's see. Stay tuned. Free will, right? Free will,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:11

free will, all right. It has been a great joy having you here, and I can just feel the presence of nature as I'm sitting here. It was, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I have a few questions I ask everybody, and the first one is, what is self love to you, Stephanie,

Stephanie Banks 1:03:29

listening for the parts of me that need to be witnessed and loved and providing that.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:39

And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective.

Stephanie Banks 1:03:45

Think it's what I said before finding those beings that I feel so beautifully, profoundly connected to and being in service to their well, being

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:59

lovely. Where can people find you? If they want to connect them learn more from you, Stephanie,

Stephanie Banks 1:04:05

they can go to my website, soulinsight.com, do be careful. Because Jannecke, I don't know if you knew this, but there is another intuitive channel named Stephanie Banks. I just know be very careful when don't don't like Google. Stephanie banks.com, that's not that's not me. I mean, certainly you can go to for her services if you wish. But mine is soulinsight.com and my social media is Stephanie intuitive channel,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:33

wonderful. Thank you so much for coming back to the show and for being a masterclass teacher and for your powerful, beautiful work. I'm so inspired. I can feel it in my heart. Thank you.

Stephanie Banks 1:04:42

I love it. Thank you for your work in the world. I am so appreciative.