Navigating Global Shifts with Higher Vibrational Awareness! With Pamela Downes

Pamela Downes 0:00

We are God. God is the divine. We are all a threat of the Divine. They're going to be exposed really, the true nature of who runs your world will be exposed, and people will not believe it. They told me the lower part of California there's going to be an earthquake. It's going to fall into the ocean, it's going to create the wave, and it's going to go to Asia. I've also seen part of Japan falling off in the past. We're going to be back to the way that we once were an intergalactic society. I had this white light shoot through my third eye fill my whole body up, and my teeth were chattering and my body was vibrating, and I just just started like crying. I lost my breath. I heard your psychic abilities have been enhanced. Everything from this moment forward will be different, and that's what happens everything, everything was different.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:57

Pamela Downes, a warm welcome back to the show.

Pamela Downes 1:01

Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here. It's an amazing experience to be here with you again today and having another conversation. And I can't wait to see what we discover together.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:14

Oh, I can't wait either, because the last time we had a conversation that a lot of people found interesting. It has been watched by over 500,000 people, which is one of my most watched videos ever. So it seemed like it really resonated with people. Yeah, quite amazing. And I think also my audience is quite interested in extraterrestrial connection, and you've had a lot of visions and premonitions about this that you feel really called to come forward with, and we spoke a lot about that and what's coming. And I also find your background interesting, because you're a singer like I was, and a pianist. I wasn't that, but you were an artist, and you've had a completely different background than what you're doing now and then, all of a sudden, in an Ayahuasca experience, you are broken open, and you feel like you're this galactic hotel, like where you get all these downloads and messages that you're now sharing with humanity. And I thought we'd start there for everyone who's new to you to share a little bit about how you started channeling. You're channeling the Council of light, and today you are. You are the founder of spirit calling. You have your own podcast. You're really out of the spiritual closet.

Pamela Downes 2:40

I am out of the spiritual closet. It's happened this year. Yeah, yeah. It's, um, it's interesting, right? We have our lives journey that are all the pieces of who we are and how we became who we are, and all the aspects of ourselves, so different versions of ourselves, kind of compiling into here and now, and that's still going to continue as we continue on the Earth's plane and live this life. Yeah, I was being called to explore my spirituality over and over and over and over and over over, you know, over a decade and hearing that call, hearing the the pull to explore spirituality, explore healing modalities, explore all the things. Ultimately brought me to knowing that I was going to do ayahuasca, and I didn't really even know what Ayahuasca was until I started that exploration. There was a retreat center in Costa Rica that was created by a hotelier, this person who created these beautiful resorts all over the world, who had an Ayahuasca journey and took his talents and created a retreat center that's like super high vibration, beautiful, beautiful establishment, very well known. And when I saw the video of him talking about his healing journey and how he created this Ayahuasca center. I just had this knowing this is where I was going to go, this is where I was going to go. And I was pulled and pulled and pulled so much so that I was speaking it as my reality. I knew, and I would say I'm going there one day. I don't know how I'm going there. I don't know how I'm going to go to another country and do a class one who listen to Jenna myself. But I know that I'm going there. I don't know how I'm going to pay for it, because it was, you know, expensive, um, but it all was conspiring for me. The universe was putting all the pieces together for me to go there, took me and put me into this beautiful, high vibrational group of people who are already like working on themselves, teaching and leading in the world and through that journey of you know healing. When you're doing grandmother ayahuasca, you're already healing. You're already working with her before you even ingest the medicine, she's already like weaving herself. In your life. And I had already had a planned trip with my mother and my brother. And, you know, there's, there's, there's all this energy to heal in this lifetime, with the dance that where we're doing together, that we came here to do in our soul group. And I, one of the intentions I had was to heal some of that. And it had started before we got there. So through that week long Ayahuasca journey through and it's no it's not easy. It is not for the faint. It is not it is intentional, it is sacred, it is beautiful, and it is took every ounce of my courage. One of the things I needed to work on was fear, fear to be able to put myself out into this public persona, to be able to share these messages of the Great Council, fear that I'm still working on, fear that I was working on many years as a performer, getting myself out on that stage when I knew that was something I needed to do, I need to conquer. I needed to push myself in that way. And I did a lot of past life healing with the Ayahuasca, with criminal ayahuasca, I did a lot of this life healing. I had a lot of realizations, of experiences with my father, and things that happened between he and I, things I had heard about, and shamanic journeys that I did work with like I was pulling all these threads together and understanding what this picture was, and then it was taking me to what the next part of my life's journey was going to be. And we talked about how today's my birthday, right? I'm 55 I'm in the middle of my 50th Thank you. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here with you today. But this all happened. I was turning 50, this, this happened right as I turned 50. And you know, I didn't plan to do this. I didn't know that I was going to do this, but through that experience of healing, that trauma, raising my vibration, raising my frequency, and doing that work over and over and over and over and over and over again, over over seven days. At the end of that journey, we did a breathwork class, and this, I don't think I told you this before. At the end of the journey, we did a breathwork class, and it's almost like, you know, like it raises your frequency, and I had this white light shoot through my third eye fill my whole body up, and my teeth were chattering and my body was vibrating, and I just just started like crying. I lost my breath, and I heard your psychic abilities have been enhanced. Everything from this moment forward will be different. And that's what happened. Everything, everything was different. I left the jungle, went back to my home in New Jersey, and, you know, it was right before covid, and it was quite an experience to have that profound moment, you know, and connection and realization and all the things, and then to come back into my life, like with my schedule and my kids and, you know, my sidewalks and the street and the city and, like, this concrete jungle, I would say I went from the from the natural jungle into this concrete jungle. And I had to figure out, like, how, how do I? How do we navigate all this like, how does this? How does this become me? Then covid happens in the world, shut down, and we suddenly had this gift of time, and I knew, just like I knew I was going to Costa Rica, just like I knew all the things that led me up to that point that I was supposed to sit every morning with intention and ask my guides to come in, whomever they were. I didn't know. I didn't really know at that point. I just I knew I had guides. I had experiences with one, this palladium guide, and I said my heart was so open. I had had so many experiences that to this point, like I knew I wanted, I knew I needed. I knew I was going to explore more, be more experience, more all the things. And I would call them in and in the very beginning, this group of angelic beings that were like super high frequency, super buoyant. They made me so happy. They'd make my face fill up with joy, and I would feel their love surround me and Envelop me. And what they were doing was telling me, without telling me, that we're going to do some more healing. We're going to do some more healing. We're going to be here to support you and work with you and amplify your energy and help you through this. Because we know it's scary, and we know what's coming. And so I would courageously step into it, knowing and feeling that love frequency, knowing that I felt that love frequency through my head, through my being, what that felt like. And you know, I skipped some of the of the stories before the Ayahuasca journey of having experiences with lower vibrational entities and. G's and things like that. So I had to learn that contrast. I had to learn the high and understand the low and all the things in between it to know what, what it was, it was, it was experiential learning and, um, when they came in. I would go through past life, deaths. I would go through the experience, I would realize it. I would feel it. I would actually like, I mean, I was water, tortured, I was I was hung, I was strangled, I was burnt, I was, I mean, I can't even tell you, I recorded every one of them, and I journaled about it every day, and I had to go through the experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 10:39

Why do you think that was important to go through a death experience from past lives again and again.

Pamela Downes 10:44

Yeah, I'll tell you. I had to go through it. I had to experience it. I was like a fly on the wall watching myself experience it. I had to release the energy around it, the trauma that was in my soul, body. Then I had to experience the emotional part of it. I had to release it all and express it for myself. And every time I did that, my vibration heightened. My vibration heightened. It kept heightening. Every time I did that, till I got to a point. And I did this for many, many months, I got to a point where my frequency rose, and I was able to get to a point to transmit energy with higher frequency, higher dimensional beings, like the councils, who were super high frequency. So it was a lot of work, and that Ayahuasca journey was like a crucial part of what I needed to do. And I joke about it because, you know, I'm not I'm being irreverent, sort of. It was my experience, but it was like I had to get to a certain place by a certain time to do a certain to do certain work right here and now. And I needed to go through that was my pathway. Not everyone should do Ayahuasca. It is, it is serious, but that was what I needed to do to start that process for myself to get to where I am today. And I'm still working on it. It's, it's a continual journey with me. Um, they were just working on me before I got on the call with you. I trap a lot of energy. I still have a lot of energy trapped in my neck. So that's why you see me moving like this, and that's why I'm continually working in that area, because there was so much trauma there. But yeah, I mean, that was a part of the story. I think that we didn't really share a lot of on our last conversation.

Jannecke Øinæs 12:33

Yeah, I've, I've always find it interesting to hear the details of the story of how we or my guests have these awakenings. And a thought came to mind that I've noticed and observed that many people are going to these plant medicines or other ways to sort of have a quick awakening. And is there something we should be careful with there, that maybe it's not as beneficial to sort of take that real pill and whoa, everything opens and also do maybe there's a value in doing the spiritual work and going inwards with meditation and everything. And I'm not saying that that you know for you that was right, but maybe it's not right for everyone.

Pamela Downes 13:19

I agree completely, and then something I'm passionate about teaching about in the future. You know, I feel like we didn't really talk about it, but I had been doing a lot of work for many, many years to get to that point. I was heightening and healing and working and doing all the things to get to that point. I do agree with you that it's talked about in, you know, spiritual communities, in, I think in, in regular media, people see it as a quick fix, but it's just the way that our world is with everything. So people think, you know, okay, good. I can go do there's, there's Shamans in, you know, cities. There's shamans that are doing it out of their home, just like any other practitioner, just like any other person. There's all different vibrational beings. There's all different people who have done, you know, just like with Reiki, just like with with everything. And I think it's so intentional, I think that you really have to be at a place where you know deep inside of you, it's a calling. And I always say to people, if you're feeling it, if there's something pulling on you, if you're feeling it, if it's you know, if you're going towards it, just sit, sit and sit with intention, and ask your guides if it's right for you, when it's time for you, you will know, you will know a resound, resounding 100% it's time for something like that. You'll just know it in every piece of yourself. But yeah, I just think that it's, it's accessible to everyone, and there's, there's a time and a place for it on your healing journey, really, specifically. Absolutely then there's the integration part, like I talked about. I'm passionate about teaching about that, and I think that's why my community is so vital, because suddenly that veil was lifted, and you can have all different kinds of experiences. If you go there with a certain amount of fear, you go there to release, to heal, to clear, and we have all kinds of, you know, vulnerabilities when we are open and that veil is lifted. And if you're not in a frequency, if you're not in a place that can handle that, I think it could be really, really challenging and and really hard for someone. And I witnessed that. I witnessed that with different people on my journey. So I think, you know, there's a lot of intention. There's a lot of sitting in within with your guides and intention and understanding that and revealing that to yourself.

Jannecke Øinæs 15:54

Yeah, I know what you speak about. Either you feel the calling or you don't feel the calling. And I was sort of waiting for the calling, and it didn't come, and all of a sudden it came, and it was, no doubt, but I spent four years before I actually did it, and after I did it a couple of times, I'm like, Okay, I'm done. Like, yeah, I was, I was satisfied with those three sessions I had, and I got some insights, and it was incredible, and but then I felt like, I don't think I want to do it again, at least not for now. Like, yeah, but definitely opened up some new neural pathways in my brain and to new amazing insights about the universe. Like, I'm such a curious person. So I got some answers, in a way, from a perspective, I would say, because everything is always a perspective. And I also had some deep insights about myself, which keeps coming back, by the way, this joy thing that I'm going to have more joy in my life anywho back to the Council of light, when you started receiving these messages, how did you receive messages from angels like is it then, word by word that you're hearing, or are you seeing them? I'm always curious to hear how this communication is happening for the people like me who is not having this direct communication.

Pamela Downes 17:16

Good question. Yeah, and I'm excited that you'll have more joy in your life, because that's an amazing thing. And you the more you get, the more you bring. It was I have, you know, I have them on my phone. Every years I've had them on my phone because I would like to go and listen back to those. Every time I sat down, I wouldn't record, and then I would journal. So I have journal notebooks and recordings, but yeah, they would start to talk. So it started with light language, and I could and I could hear it on the recording. When I listened to it, I witnessed myself going and then I felt this, almost like the spiraling energy. It's like I could see it coming down and and I would hear when it came right in, and I was, you know, and then I was speaking light language. And that was, that was the very beginning of the council, with their high frequency getting, you know, and making that transference of energy, which was really, really, really, really cool. And I had to work with them, and it took, you know, a long time, but that's how it started. With speaking. I would talk, I would I would I had to practice, just like with music, just like with singing, I had to practice and allow that energy to come through so that I was like, honing the skill, you know, working with the energies, and it's, you know, physical. And that was a lot in itself. Simultaneously, I was having the visions. I was seeing things. I was hearing things in the middle of the night, like spirit calling and like, what, why they wanted me to create it. I would have dream after dream after dream after dream of tsunami, tsunami wave, wave, wave, wave, tsunami. I would dream a giant wave was coming, and praise myself, and here it comes. And then I would open my eyes, and I was either floating or I was safe and, you know, and I wasn't taken by the storm or by the wave. And I used to talk about it like with everyone, and that I was that was in my life at that point, they said, Well, maybe the wave means this, and maybe the wave means that, but deep down, I know that there's going to be a tsunami. I've been hearing about it recently, actually, and hadn't heard about it since 2020, and then I heard, you know, they started talking to me about war. They started talking to me about tectonic plate shifting. They started talking to me about, you know, a galactic society. They started talking to me about a woman. Moral government. They did. They just started. I mean, if I think about it, like they could have given me a little bit of a break, but they were like, you know, they were giving me so much information. I guess they were so excited about communicating also, but I was opening those pathways, you know, and so the clairvoyance and the clairaudience and the clairsentient, and like, all the things were opening, and then the channeling was opening. So I was on like a fast track. I It's the only way I can explain it to realizing all of the abilities. And I'm still, I'm still, you know, we've talked about this earlier. This is all just the last couple of years. I'm still getting them, you know, I last two nights ago, in the most beautiful experience. Yannick, it was incredible. They were showing me a book that I wrote. They were handing it to me, Oh, God, it's so beautiful. And I felt the paper. I felt the raised lettering, I saw the headline, I saw the art on it, and they spoke the headline to me, and I get up and I write it down, or I did a voice text on my phone, but like it's continually About me, about the world, about all the things. So yeah, it started with getting to know them, getting to align with them, getting to feel their frequency, getting to calibrate and be able to physically work with them. Led us to today to now, to here. Now.

Jannecke Øinæs 21:32

Fascinating. It is fascinating. I believe we have different life purposes, and I feel my purpose is communicating and helping other people come out with their messages. And I used to communicate with a singing voice, and now I communicate this way. And I sometimes I think about that I could never, you know, be a doctor, because I just cannot handle blood. I just face stuff like that. So, you know, I think we're really built for different things, like you're built for this, and it seems like you're calling like you've been sharing with me, or in the way I understand you, that it's sharing these predictions, like sharing what they're sharing. Why do you think? And then we can go into the predictions. Why do you think that they and that it's important for the Council of light that you share predictions?

Pamela Downes 22:28

Yeah, so until recently, I don't even think that I was able to say this last time that we spoke, they keep telling me we are a we Pamela, it is not a you and an us. It's a we, which is like a big statement for me, but they just told me now it's like an aspect of myself agreed to come here, an aspect of them came here as myself to do this now, and the reason is to support humanity through this giant shift and awakening to give them support and guidance and love, to help humanity know that they are not alone. And you know, it's a big it was a big undertaking for me to start sharing this because it was, it was big, it was hard. It was like, I like you. We said was not out of the closet. I was leading my marketing firm with my employees and working with my clients, which I still am. And you know, there's a difference there. There's this thing right now where people are realizing and hearing these messages with the amount of fear that they vibrate in that's their own frequency. So they're, you know, I talked to the council about that like people get I don't want to make them fearful. I don't want to make anyone afraid. I, you know, I worry, because that's my motherly instinct. That's just who I am as an empath. And they say, Pamela, the people that will hear the message are meant to hear it. The others are not. It's like you you can't worry about everyone as a whole. It's like it's meant to happen, how it's supposed to happen? Whoever supposed to hear it will hear it, and they will benefit from it. They will understand, they will feel the frequency. They will see the light. It will amplify their awakening journey. It will, you know, assist them in some way. And there was a there was a couple comments recently where, you know, I put out a couple of predictions because they were so profound, and there were dreams and there were messages, and they told me to do it, and it takes me, like, a couple days to do it, and then when I do it, people can see me a little bit struggling with it, because it's hard, you know. And a couple people were like, well, Pamela, I'm not feeling your authenticity. That's that's what I really felt about you. And I don't make comments to people I it's not my job to but let me tell you something, I only function from 100% authenticity. I can't function in any other way. It's just. Not who I am, and I only show up in that space. And it's, it's not for the faint at heart to do this, either. And there's such a deep knowing, just like I knew I had to sell my house, just like I knew I had to do all the things that I've done to get to this part. It's, it's just another piece of it. And through meeting you, I mean, I said it before you changed my life, you have helped the messages of the council. You have helped me tremendously to change my life and to support this mission that is so huge, and I'm just so grateful for that. And there's, you know, everything moving me forward now into the next six months of this 55th year of my life, moving 100% fully into this work, because I believe it so much, and I know that it's what I need to be doing.

Jannecke Øinæs 25:57

Thank you for sharing that. All right, so let's get into these predictions that you saw Korea. Okay, so you mentioned the tsunami. Do you know anything about okay, there's several questions there. You know anything about when and where and what is the benefit of us knowing? I assume it is for us to prepare. So how can we prepare several questions there.

Pamela Downes 26:22

Okay, good. Give me one at a time,

Jannecke Øinæs 26:26

when and where.

Pamela Downes 26:28

Yeah, so in the beginning of the year, I do a predictions video for the year, and that's on my YouTube channel, and you can go look at it launched in January. So it talked about simultaneous events happening in the United States that were already pre planned that, you know, they use the word explosives. Okay, so I put that out there, and, you know, that's out there. So then I think a month ago, six weeks ago, I started having dreams. They started giving me like these situations where I was at and I could see explosions happening. So one of the so the first, one of the first things that I saw was I had a dream that the United States attacked another country, and we were watching it on a television. I don't know who I was with family friends, but we were all watching it happen on a screen, and they were saying that if we attacked this country, it was going to start a domino effect. We don't know it all yet, but it was going to create, if we do this, and then it's going to make that happen and that happen and that happen. And it was a month later that we attacked Iran, and so when I saw that, I'm like, Okay, I connect that to what I've already heard about the year. So I'm always like, putting these pieces together in my mind, you know. So then I had the dream that I was underneath this cavernous sort of parking garage area, sort of thing with cement pillars. I could see the peripheral there was like greenery and sunlight. They don't know if that's parking mall, if that's a government building, if that's a I don't know. But to my left, there were a group of suspicious looking men, and they had a black backpack. And to the right, the same thing, and then suddenly explosions were going off. And then two weeks later, I had another dream of, you know, things that relate back to that 2025, video. So also during the year, every month, I channel a message for my community, and it's a love, it's support, it's guidance. What are the community members need to hear? How can they be fed? How can they be nourished? And since January, it's been kind of evolving into this, you know, you have your power. Be the lighthouse, be the witness, for those who are maybe don't understand what's going on spiritually in the world, or don't understand vibration, and into this place of you're going to start witnessing things soon. We want you to be able to witness it without taking over your frequency consuming you. And then this month, which we're in now, which was to be, you know, the second half of the year starting, um, was it's going to start now. And I was, I was dumbfounded when a Dream on, a sorry, a message about an earthquake happening, land falling into the ocean, making tectonic plates shift, creating a wave, which is a tsunami. And they said that the wave is going to now, you know, this is me in the middle of the night, putting it all together. And the channel messages, putting it all together. From what I understand, that the wave is going to create something that hits Asia. And I don't know that that wave might come back. There might be another earthquake. I can't tell, but I woke up in the middle of the night, like two weeks ago, and I heard Hong Kong really loud. So again, it's. Me like threading all these pieces together, but I feel that I need to put that out so that people are just prepared. But it's multifaceted yanika Also, because there's more coming in the world that I've seen. And it's almost like these things happened and they hear them coming from me, and then they say, oh, there's gonna be more messages coming from her. So it's not even just about here and now. It's about, like, 10 years. It's about the future of our world as well, which I've gotten insight into also, which will be, you know, trying also in different ways, in different ways. So I think from what I've heard, that the summer going into the fall, there's going to be natural disasters. There's going to be a high potential for not this natural disaster to happen. I don't have a crystal ball. I don't know when, I don't know the date, I don't know all the things. I just know what I'm receiving and sharing, because that's what I've been told to do.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:06

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Pamela Downes 31:47

um California. They told me the lower part of California, where I have talked about before last year, because in September of 2024 they showed me within the bottom part of California. They said there's going to be an earthquake. It's going to fall into the ocean, it's going to create the wave, and it's going to go to Asia. They've also seen part of Japan falling off in the past. So I don't, I don't know.

Jannecke Øinæs 32:17

Okay, so this is something you'll see might happen in the future, correct? Yeah, and we're in July right now recording this. Okay, so, so how, what can we do with that information? What? What? What does Spirit say about what we can do about it?

Pamela Downes 32:35

Yeah, they want us to work on our individual frequency. It's everything. So what do I mean by that? I mean by we all have a vibration. So your audience knows that, and my audience knows that now that we resonated at a frequency, a lot of a lot of humanity, they don't even understand that. That's a thing. They don't they don't get it. So they're diving into social media, they're diving into comments, they're diving into hate, they're diving into fighting. They're diving into all the things that are created for them to keep them busy, to keep them their minds busy, their frequencies low, so they don't connect to the Divine, the council, the guides want us to work on our individual frequency, really paying attention to what we're consuming, who we're spending time with, what we're doing, what are all the things that create our day, that ultimately create the frequency that we have? Because fear frequency is a low frequency, you really don't have a chance if these events happen and they're fearful, you're just going to be swept right up into that frequency. So they want us to work on our individual frequency. Pay attention to what we are doing. Pay attention to the things we're that are occupying our mind. Stop the fighting. Give yourself that space to be able to receive that higher guidance, to be able to hear from your own guides, from your higher self, to be able to think and not just be in the state of chaos this lower frequency. They want. They want to create a better experience for us. If that makes sense, they want to help us have a better experience. You want to help us to be able to navigate it more easily. They want to help us to real, realize that we are not only do we have a frequency, but the frequency that we have vibrates out into the universe, and it creates the reality that we have. So we have a certain aspect of control over how we experience these events. Does that make sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 34:40

Yeah. I mean, to me, it points to that we create our own reality. And I've always been curious about to what degree do we create our own reality when it comes to global events, even though, if I might be in a super high vibe, will I experience this tsunami or. Not for instance, and I guess this is really complex, yeah. I mean, can I omit being in a tsunami if I'm a really high vibration? These are a bit like to speak about, in a way.

Pamela Downes 35:18

Yeah, I totally get it, because I was, you know, a lot of people were talking in the world about July 4, and there was all kinds of in our country, all kinds of people putting out all kinds of nonsense. You can sit there and watch it, and can get consumed in it, and really just take a deep dive in and let it, let it permeate your being and keep you from doing anything. My beloved was taking me on a surprise get away from my birthday, which involved flying, and I have to just trust that I am held, I am loved, I am taken care of, and I am creating, and I'm saying that frequency of creating a higher vibrational experience for myself, and that's what I'm talking about. You know what? That's all we can control, but, but I understand what you're saying. Because the anybody would say, well, am I going to experience the tsunami or am I gonna like? I don't know what you're going to experience. I don't know what's which what your fate is. I don't know what your existence is going to be. I'm going to say that I am going to create the best experience that I can for myself, and witness these things that happen and try to not let them permeate my being and take over myself and be able to support my beloved and my closest my children and the people around me. I mean, the world is already like this. There's all kinds of things happening continually.

Jannecke Øinæs 36:47

Yeah. Now you did mention a galactic society that you downloaded a lot of information, and I know you also had some galactic guides, and you said in the last interview that you had a vision of a parade of ships come in a peaceful parade of ships, like not ordinary ships, but other top types of galactic ships. So what did they tell you about a galactic society, and what connection is that with? Does that have to do with Earth?

Pamela Downes 37:18

Yeah, and so interesting that you're asking me that, because in my community, all these people are having dreams that I've had about this parade of ships, as far as the eye can see, yeah, just last week, there was like, three different people, um, that had a dream. So it's like, it's so interesting because they're in twitting, and they're showing others that this has a high potential as well. They've told me that we're going to be back to the way that we once were, which is an inter am I going to say it correctly, an intergalactic society. So it's like we will know of other worlds, and we will communicate. And what's the word, befriend, I don't know, be working together. We will be in our new earth, in our new world, a high vibrational society where we're all using our all of our senses, all of the things that are already inside of us, communicating without speaking, the work that we do, like instantaneous healing, healing centers, like a beautiful, collaborative, love focused society, and the vibration around that would be incredible, you know, not being small, like we're out on this planet, floating around here by ourselves, but knowing that we are part of oneness. We are part of all that is, you know, and being open to that and not in a fearful state. You know, that was the parade. It was, Hey guys, we're here. We're all here. Witness us and know that we are benevolent, and we have the highest intentions to show you that you are not here alone. We are all here together, you know, I think that's an exciting, you know, opportunity for our future. And I, you know, would love to see that. I whenever I hear these dreams, I get excited that it will be something that's coming sooner than later. Yeah, I think that it will be in my lifetime, in our lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:23

So could you share a little bit about these, the Council of light, who they are? Are they physical? Are they not? How are they experiencing their existence?

Pamela Downes 39:39

Yeah, they are super, super, super high vibrational angelic beings. They're creator beings. And I think part of the reason that they have such a vested interest in, you know, helping us through these times is because they, you know, partly, were here creating us. And,

Jannecke Øinæs 39:59

um. Can you share a bit more about that? Yeah and yeah, have created us,

Pamela Downes 40:05

yeah, that they were a part of, you know, if you go back to other worlds, other times, other parts of our planet, you know, I've talked about Roth, I've talked about thaw, I've talked about Thoth, I've talked about when they were, like the first beings that came in. They were almost kind of setting the pathway to show me that those were those creator beings that they were all back in, you know, the time of Egypt and the Egyptian civilization, and when there were galactic beings, and when, when they were using energy, and all of the things. I'm not, like, super versed on all of that, but you understand the what I'm setting up. They were a part of that. They were, I'm not going to say Anunnaki, but they were those creator beings, and one, when

Jannecke Øinæs 41:07

I equated humans, yeah, okay, yeah, because I've heard this before, that we come from the stars and we are have been seeded, for instance, by other galactic races is that,

Pamela Downes 41:23

yes, we're getting it, yeah, yeah. Sometimes it's hard for people to understand if I if they're, if they don't know the history, and I can't get into all of the details of it, because my mind doesn't keep it all in there. But um, yes, so that's why, when they come in, that's why they affect the electronics. When I'm in a live podcast, they've done it more than once. It's true, they are such a high, powerful frequency that that's why it took so long for me to be able to to align with them, to transfer the energy through me to be able to channel it. And I believe that's why the singing part of what I did was so important for me to to use my vocal cords, to use and understand my breath, to be able to harness this creator being energy, because they're really, really, really, really powerful. Yes, so I think that they have a vested interest, really. And I, as I said before, which is a big statement, that I am part of an aspect of them. I know it's hard, it's hard to say that. It's just I feel humbled and and you know, this three dimensional reality is just so different than than where they're from, and to say that I would come here to do this work now that's why it's so important that I show up, that I show up, that continually show up, push through the fear, share what it is that I am receiving do the work that I said I was going to come here to do, Because I know that it's so important, and it's what I came here to do in this lifetime.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:07

Would you like to do some channeling? Yeah, yeah, it just fell into my mind. We haven't spoken about it before, but if you're up for it, maybe it would be interesting for the audience.

Pamela Downes 43:18

Okay, well, you'll keep an eye on my camera, and if my

Jannecke Øinæs 43:22

Yes, all right, so who's talking is that the council, the

Pamela Downes 43:28

council will be I'll call them in, and I'll let them share a message, and maybe we can ask them about, since you said that this will be like in the August time, maybe We ask them about, like, the rest of the year, or something like that, or, okay, yeah, all right, I'll just let them in. Here's the door, opening it up.

Pamela Downes 43:55

Yes, we are here. We are here. We are happy to be here. Yes, indeed, we are here. Yes, you ask about the civilizations that have existed on your planet in previous lifetimes? Yes, many, many, many, many lifetimes before you have existed in this there were future beings living and creating ways of being, systems evolution for your species. Yes, that is what we have done. This is why we have been placed on your planet in the beginning as creator beings, yes, to support the evolution of humankind. That is why we are here now to support the evolution of humankind, which is ever evolving, changing swiftly as as beings that are now occupying your planet, that have created the ways of being in which you are living in now and your three dimensional reality, their systems are breaking down the ways in which they have created for you to be small and limited to that, not access to your spiritual gifts is shifting now before your eyes. Yes, it is our deepest and highest intention. To support you in the evolution of Your Beings, returning once again to who you are and how you have been created to be omnipotent beings on your planet. In your world, you see, you are not small. You are created in the eyes of us. You are omnipotent, beautiful beings of light, connected to all that is and all that has been. Do you hear? Do you feel how excited they are?

Jannecke Øinæs 45:34

Yeah, it's intense, and I I'm not catching every word also, like, I'm really trying to focus, because some words are escaping me.

Pamela Downes 45:44

They are damn okay. That was beautiful, and they're so excited that I had to stop because it was taking over.

Pamela Downes 45:55

Wow, yes, we are here. We are here. We are very happy indeed to be here. Yes, yes, as we have said, we have been positioned now here on your planet to sue in the evolution of humankind, yes, into the ways of being that have been established for you but have been manipulated by the beings that control your planet. Yes, you see, it is our highest and deepest intention to support you in the evolution of your spiritual being and connecting to your spiritual gifts to all that is for that is how you were created to be beautiful beings of light at the thread of The Divine within each and every one of you connected to all that is in all spaces, in all time, in all realities. Yes, dear one,

Pamela Downes 46:52

wow, did you get that?

Jannecke Øinæs 46:53

Yeah, yeah, I did. I did.

Pamela Downes 46:58

Yes. You'll ask about the remaining year on your planet Earth. Yes, there are shifts that are coming now quickly. Yes, we share the messages as you have asked, help prepare you for the shifts on your planet as they will be difficult in nature for you to perceive. Yes, our intention is to ease your mind a bit, elevate your frequency so that you are weathering the storm with more ears and support and guidance. Yes, there will be a storm. Indeed, there will be multifaceted events that happen on your planet simultaneously, and you will witness them. These are the changes that we speak about. These are the changes and the shifts within your government, within your entertainment, within your world, within your natural disasters, within war, in space, shifting your words quickly. Now I implore you Yes, work on your individual frequency. We employ you yes to work on the calibration of your specific bodies. For with your calibration being shifted in your energy to being raising your vibration, you will rather respond whether the storm with ease, as we have said, there's a highest intention to support you. Yes, indeed, with love, the highest intention above all guidance from the Great Council of light. Yes, with love for all. Yes, always the highest intention of love you.

Pamela Downes 48:40

Wow. Sometimes they get, sometimes they get, like, they get a little, um, spicy. My friend who channels with me, she says they getting sassy. I said, I know, because sometimes they'll say, have we not said?

Jannecke Øinæs 48:58

But I'm like, is this comfortable for you, because

Pamela Downes 49:01

she Okay, yeah, no, it can be stressful. Um, I'm good. I also haven't worked with them, and I was away on vacation, and so, you know, I was in a different bed, and my neck is a little off, and so, but I'll be fine. I'll be fine.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:15

Do you remember every everything they said, no, no, because I'm I am losing some words, but I did pick up, you know, yeah, bit about love and how we've loved. And they also said that beings control the planet, yes, and it seems like some are being, then controlling the planet, and that we are Light and Divine Beings. So who are, then the others who are controlling the planet?

Pamela Downes 49:45

Yeah, you know who they are. We talked about them last time,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:51

those who haven't watched that video, yes,

Pamela Downes 49:53

no, right? Um, they are the reptilians. They are the. Our dimensional beings who are keeping us small. They keep us small with our food, with the enslavement system that they've created for us, that we've been brought into by all of the systems name one pick one out of a hat. There are so many of them, and they want us to realize once again, who we are, you know, that we are not small, that we are not, you know, cast aside, that we are a part of the Divine. You know, part of the religion experience is that we are separate from God and we are not there's so many times that the guides talk about love. They talk about they don't talk badly about religion. They talk about some of the limitations that are inside of religion. And they say, if it works for you and it helps you with your frequency, and you're receiving something higher and better from that, then that's good for you. But they do talk about the limitations that it has. And I bring that up only because we are taught that we are separate from God. I get comments about that all the time. God is not separate from us. We are God. God is the divine. We are all a threat of the Divine. I know that that's what they've talked about. Also, that's source energy. I have felt it. It is beautiful. It's our gift. It's why us as spiritual beings, you know, we are supposed to vibrate at a higher frequency, and it's hard in this three dimensional reality, just as three dimensional beings, not even with the systems that are in place, but to break out of that. That's that crack in the reality that's I experienced it. Everyone in my community experiences it. Wait a minute, I don't live in this space that I there's, there's something better and more there, there's, there's something beyond this. Yeah, there is Truman Show. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. I remember it well. I remember waking up. I remember thinking, and then you look back on who you were, and you're like, oh my god, I I lived like that with blinders on. I lived in this world or didn't understand how beautiful and how magnificent we are and how we are connected to all that is, that's, that's also the message, you know, it's multifaceted

Jannecke Øinæs 52:34

and not, you know, in order not to polarize even more the reptilians or this other group that's controlling the earth. I mean, we can also feel like we're going into these conspiracies, but in another way, we see all the gruesomeness that is actually going on on the planet. So I I seldom want to go down the dark or investigating the dark path, because the more I do, the darker I know my mind gets. But I'm also thinking that, okay, something is going on, but that's also, from my perspective, part of God. Then, right? It's all part of God. So what we can do is put shed light on it. Because I think whenever we shed light and put light on darkness, darkness will eventually vanish. And that is sort of my way of seeing it, and that's why I think it's also important to speak about it, not to say day and Oh, more war frequency, but yeah, actually, to just acknowledge that something is going on here. Yeah, let's take our power back with that light sword. I mean, there's so many references to world the time like but I know maybe not a sword, but the heart, you know?

Pamela Downes 54:02

Yeah, I agree with you completely. I agree with you completely, because it's not about getting fixated on on the details. It's about the concept of it. And I don't like to talk about all of those, you know, those. I don't like to put those labels on it, and I tend to try to not dip into that space only because it's fearful. And if you haven't, if you haven't even scratched the surface on it, forget it. Just keep it at a lower density frequency that's entangling our planet, that is breaking, and the light is coming up, and it is, it is untangling and then the light is consuming it, and that's what's happening, right? And because I've experienced it personally, I've experienced them, I've experienced it, and if you like, if you're, it's, it's, it's, it can be scary and it can be challenging, and it's, it's, you know,

Jannecke Øinæs 54:58

just on what, what you're referring to is that your

Pamela Downes 55:01

beings, yeah, the beings that run our world, yeah, and that's another thing that the council has said, that they're going to be exposed really, the true nature of who runs your world will be exposed, and people will not believe it, because they they live in that small space of I get up, I go to work, I come home, I do my chores, I watch my TV, Id my dinner, I go to bed and rinse and repeat. And there's like, you know, it's they're not. They just don't even think that that could be like, like, some people don't even believe that there could be, until recently, other life forms, aliens, UFO, like, that's all just starting to become more mainstream with social media and everything, right? So, yeah, but I agree with you, it's, it is a spiritual war, that's an interesting way to label it,

Jannecke Øinæs 55:53

yeah, or a frequency war and that before, it's just something that I've heard again and again. And it's an interesting word, but so I understand you're just mentioned that reptilians, but then we have humans on the planet that, at least I see. But is it sort of an that the reptilians are impacting humans? You don't go there. I understand the color

Pamela Downes 56:26

I love your face. Do you see my face? It's it's a really, it's a big subject. You know, it's important for them to keep us small. It's important for them to keep our vibrations low. It's important for them to keep news pumping out with fear. To have all these lower frequency foods fastly and easily available to us, to have all of this political outrage and society outrage and all of these fighting techniques and opportunities presented to us so that we are not tapping in to our higher self using all of the gifts and all of the tools we already have here that we've been told not to we don't even know that we have them. I mean, that's really, truly it, and to know that we have to be guilty, and, you know, repent our sins to a god that's not connected to us, that we have to look at it in different way. I mean, you see what I'm saying? We have to be enslaved in a banking system that immediately we have a value because we have a birth certificate, and then we start to go the American dream and get involved in institutions of finance and start getting debt, because that's the American dream. And then as soon as we're a certain age, you know, my kids weren't even graduated from high school yet, and they're getting credit cards in the mail, but no one ever taught them in school how to manage money, or, you know, best practice for a more evolved relationship with money. So it's an enslavement. It's of stress. It's a vibration, and it's everywhere that was created for us. Until the consciousness of the planet is shifting. The vibration of their planet is shifting. The consciousness of our society is shifting. The ways of the world are being seen. Social media has helped that that web is breaking and the light is coming through. The shift is happening, that grasp that they have on us is becoming more and more challenging, and they're holding on tighter and tighter. And so, you know, there are some things that are being created, like war, to creep to creep, to create that fear again. And they understand that. That's they understand all of this, and that's why they're trying to help us.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:52

That's why we need the big events like tsunamis and natural disasters to wake us up.

Pamela Downes 58:58

Well, those, I feel like part of those things. And I mean, I'm not an expert on all this, but I think that part of those things are Gaia shifting, I really do. And then I also think that there's man made things. I think there's weather tactics. I think, you know, I was driving from from Pennsylvania to Maryland. I was in the car for an hour and a half. There was so many chemtrails, one after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other in the sky. And I'm like, what is it? Why? You know, there's things people aren't paying attention to it, but so some, some people are waking up to all that and asking the questions of, why. Why? Why?

Jannecke Øinæs 59:41

Sorry, what did you see in the sky? You said, What's um,

Pamela Downes 59:45

this, you know, the chemtrails, where they Yeah,

Jannecke Øinæs 59:49

so, so, to end this on a positive note, the council might have been speaking about the lights that everything is, you know, cracking open and. Um, some astrologers are talking about 2032, around that time. Is that something, you'll you'll see that will will become the new human, new move into fifth dimension, or a new reality, new species, maybe not a new species, I'm not sure, but maybe. But, you know, a more utopia, kind of,

Pamela Downes 1:00:23

yeah, they don't give me time frames for those sorts of things, but they have shown me that that's what is inevitable. Is what we are holding on. That's what, yes, that's what we are moving towards. So we are in the beginning phases of that, only because they've showed me visions of what I will be doing in the future. Do I think that that is in my lifetime, and I'm 55 so if we could do the time I'm 55 today, if we could, if we could add the math, you know, um, but yeah, I mean, I've seen I've seen instantaneous healing. I have seen a beautiful world. So I don't know Yannick, I don't know it's like I they also don't show me too much, because they know that I have a capacity for a certain amount, and I have to focus on here, now, here and now, which is continually working through my fear of putting myself out there. Yeah, and currently shifting into moving into my spiritual business 100% of the time, which is my focus for this year. So there's a lot, there's a lot of baby steps to get to our bigger picture, and there's a lot of work we need to do now as a society, and there's things that we have to go through, but we have people like you and me and others who have created these spaces, these digital spaces, to be fed, to be guided, to be you know, held, supported, to learn, to share, and that is part of it. You know, that is a part of it. So all of the Light Workers who have been called now to receive the masses, who are opening to be held so that they have an easier time, it's, I'm honored to be able to help them. So many people have come recently, just in the last two months, since March, March, April, I'm having these experiences. I'm having pressure in the back of my head. I'm having downloads, I'm having visions. I'm having this I'm having that my my hands are igniting. Everyone is opening up to their spiritual gifts. It's a beautiful thing to witness. There's going to be more of that. That's amazing. It's just so cool.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:45

It is. And I'm thinking the most important thing for me, in many ways, is that when we focus on that beautiful future, more of us, you know, put our intention into that. That is what we will create also that timeline. So the more people who are visualizing and feeling that as a possibility will also create it.

Pamela Downes 1:03:10

Yes, paving the way, opening it up, igniting the path, yeah, yeah, rolling out the carpet. It's exciting. I just saw that beautiful Yeah. All right.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:21

Well, thank you so much for coming back, Pamela, and I'll ask you the general questions I ask everybody. Maybe you'll have a different answer today. What is self love to you?

Pamela Downes 1:03:32

Oh, my self love is holding space, compassion, empathy, grace for yourself, and I have been stepping into that in a big way in the last six months so and I'm and I'm proud of myself. Go ahead.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:47

That's really inspiring. And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Pamela Downes 1:03:53

It's to from what the what the council has kind of shared through me, this life, this three dimensional reality, is to come here, to have experiences, to expand our soul and to remember who we are. And you know, we get to do that in a big way in this lifetime of ours right now, and that's the deeper meaning of this life right now.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:16

Thank you so much for coming back. And if more people want to connect with you. How can they do so

Pamela Downes 1:04:21

thank you for asking they can visit me at spirit calling.com, there's all kinds of really cool stuff. And one of the things I have to tell you is that since we spoke and I shared the pineal gland meditation activation, everyone has been downloading it, using it, having it's helping people open up all of their abilities in a more deeper way. But I received guidance to create a womb, activation, meditation. It's incredible. Even when I was doing it, I was having emotions. I was having feelings. And it's not just for people who. Women who are working on fertility. It's clearing past karma, clearing this life trauma, clearing the pathway for future generations. Like it's incredible, and I'm just launching that. And then I just launched a mastermind where it's me and my you know, just Jerry and Esther Hicks Abraham, how Jerry would ask questions to Esther. My, my Jerry is Dina. And so Dina and I are working with 10 people in the and the council and these mastermind groups. And there's a waiting list. They're sold out. But if anybody's interested in working with the council, that's there. And then they have soul path coaching, which is one on one, helping you understand what's happening, helping you navigate all of that, to realize what it is you're supposed to be doing, what it is your work, all of it. So that's all on my website. And my channel is a spirit, spirit calling Pamela, but really quickly, I got invited to transcendence retreat in San Diego, September, 27 and 28th really cool people are going to be there, like Ann Tucker and so many cool people. And Darryl Daryl link is going to be there. So if you go to transcend San Diego, Transcendenceretreat.com you can get a discount, spirit calling discount, if you put in spirit calling, and you can hang out with me and go on a dinner cruise. It's amazing. I can't wait to meet people.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:29

Sounds exciting. Well, enjoy the rest of your birthday, Pamela, and thank you for spending some time with us.

Pamela Downes 1:06:40

You're welcome. Thank you for allowing me to be here again, and thanks for sharing my birthday with me.