Can This Conscious Technology Really Raise Your Vibration? FLFE

Jeffrey Stegman 0:00

What we discovered was a way to activate consciousness fields. And when we originally found this technology, and I walked into the inventor's home, which was kind of a modest house, this machine was floor to ceiling, and the whole first floor, I mean, it was so intense. My hair was like standing up when I walked in, and the feeling of it was so good. I mean, it was like such a peaceful feeling. What they found was, if you put an identifier into that very tingly field, that it would create a quantum connection with that place or person or object.

Clayten Stedmann 0:39

It's like having a sacred space, a temple in your house. So you have to look for things in the environment, like your friends coming over more and, you know, they don't want to leave, right? So they're eating all your groceries, right? So the grocery bill goes up, nature or divinity, with more sort of em negative, EMFs coming into the world, for example, there will be technologies and tools and resources that will be revealed to humanity that will help compensate for that. We think it's a law of the universe, so to speak, and we're part of that emerging group of technologies that are helping people find more harmony.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:19

Jeffrey and Clayten, a warm welcome to the show.

Clayten Stedmann 1:32

Great to be here. Nice to meet you. Jannecke,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:35

I'm excited to speak with you guys today, because you are the founders of focused life force energy called F, l, F, E, which is a conscious technology that is a tool to to access well, well being and balance and basically raise our frequency and vibration. And I heard of this through several of my guests on the show who I've collaborated a lot with, and I got really curious. I mean, is it possible that there exists a conscious technology that could help us raise our awareness and our frequency? Because that is what we speak a lot about on the show, is raising our consciousness, right? So when I came over this, I just had to learn more about it. And I also know you've created this spiritual business model around this. There's a subscription people can try. I've tried it myself, and we can speak about that later on. And I wanted for my audience also to get to know about this and to go deep today and learn about it, and then they could decide for themselves. You know, is this something I would like to test out? So let's just start with the basic what is focused life force energy.

Jeffrey Stegman 2:57

So I could start focused life force energy is the name of our company, which we started now, 12 years ago. And what we discovered, through working with some inventors in British Columbia, Canada, was a way to activate consciousness fields, high consciousness fields, meaning in the higher ranges of consciousness. And so with this, inventors, we realized we could do this and flee became the sort of the commercial way for people to do that themselves, to raise consciousness around their home or around a cell phone or object. So it's a consciousness field service is what flee is

Jannecke Øinæs 3:47

Clayten. Do you want to add perhaps?

Clayten Stedmann 3:50

yes, a lot of people wonder, like, do we send them something that they put in their home? You know? No, we have a couple of machines, or we call them systems that contain multiple types of technology or kind of synergistic, synergistically working together, and we activate the consciousness field remotely through our technology. So there's nothing to send out. It's just that's done all through Quantum Association.

Jannecke Øinæs 4:19

Okay, so I'm going to ask, you know, the stupid questions, so is it actually a physical machine somewhere, and you're saying that you're not sending it out? So for people who are then on a subscription receiving this, how is it possible? What are they sort of receiving? Yeah, that was several questions. Is there a physical machine somewhere that is doing this?

Jeffrey Stegman 4:46

There is, yeah, in fact, there's more than one. There's several physical machines. And when we originally found this technology, and I walked into the inventor's home, which was kind of a modest, you. House in the country, this machine was floor to ceiling in the whole first floor of this house. I mean, it was so intense. My hair was like standing up when I walked in. And the feeling of it was so good. I mean, it was like such a peaceful, quiet feeling walking into this field. So there was a consciousness field, kind of around this system as I walked in the door. And so what we have now is a miniaturized version of that. It's much smaller, but there was high speed alternating current running through these stacks, floor to ceiling, stacks that were pulling energy in. They were kind of harvesting or pulling energy in from the environment. And then there was one output stack that created this very high field. And when I stepped forward and I put my hand, and that field was super tingly, something was going on there, for sure. But Clayton had this discovered this much earlier. In fact, what they found was, if you put an identifier into that very tingly field, that it would create a quantum connection with that place or person or object. And that was when we took it further with worked with the inventor, and we created, you know, upgrades and upgrades of that. And it's very much like a human being praying for someone or sending Reiki. So that distant connection, if you're a Reiki practitioner, you get someone's name and their maybe their photograph, so that's your unique identifier for them, and then you're holding them in mind, and you're sending them a Reiki treatment. For those people that have done that, that's the same sort of mechanism of this system. It's this quantum connection that occurs, and then we as humans can send love, send blessings to someone like mom's got a cold, I'm going to send her healing blessings that now there's a consciousness field activated around mom. She may be thinking about you, and then you're you call her, Oh, I was just thinking about you. So there's this quantum connection that occurs through the through the this system, the epileptic system, and the way it works creates that similar quantum connection. And then we can activate a field remotely, anywhere, instantly, just like we can can as a human.

Jannecke Øinæs 7:39

Yeah, yeah. I heard that before that you compared it with Reiki. And that makes sense, because I've always been curious, what is Reiki, really, and what, how is it possible? Is AI involved in this somehow?

Clayten Stedmann 7:55

Now we don't have any AI in the technology. It's too we're always, we're very sort of security conscious about being, you know, having anybody hack into it or be able to use it for any other purposes is, you know, other than what we intended for. So the only AI in the company is, you know, when we go online and search something, it's all AI these days. Of course, I think Grammarly is AI. You know, there's a few pieces of software that just for spelling, but, yeah, there's no AI involved in the technology.

Jannecke Øinæs 8:29

So what is the technology based on? Like, how is it even possible?

Clayten Stedmann 8:36

Well, it's based upon the principle that, in some ways, well, you can transfer energy like Reiki, through over time and space. You can do it instantly anywhere in the world. And it's very much like the phenomena that happens at a sacred site or a pilgrimage. So when you go to a sacred site, let's say Stonehenge. A lot of people know about Stonehenge or Machu Picchu. It has a certain level of consciousness, right? There's a positive energy there. And oftentimes these areas are like ley lines, where they cross, and there's an accumulation of positivity. And in the past, many churches, temples, different places were built on those because there was a natural positivity. And the way that the churches were designed was that the place where the energy lines crossed in the earth and that effervescent life force came out of the earth, they would put the the pulpit on that crossing of lines, because the intention was that the person speaking from the pulpit would be inspired with this extra energy to connect with the divine war. Because in a high consciousness field, the. Veil between us and divinity is a little bit thinner. We're a little closer to God, if you will. And then so you have a high consciousness field in these places. And then you also have something called information in the field, and that is the accumulation of the prayers, the intent, the positive, I guess, surrender of the ego that people engage in when they go to a place. And different different sacred places have different qualities of information. So some places are known for healing, some places are known for you go there and you pray for a healthy childbirth, or you pray for a good harvest, for your crops, or you pray for, you know, one of your relatives to return to health. And in some cultures, like in India, they actually engineer temples to hold certain types of thoughts that are relative to the focus of the temple, like it's for good crops, it's for a healthy marriage, it's for a healthy baby, it's for financial success. And so when you have this high consciousness area and this information in the field, then people will take perhaps they'll buy a souvenir, or they'll have something that they put in that place for a while, and it gets charged up with that energy, and then they kick it back with them, and they weigh merit as they may wear it as a pendant, and they feel a connection to the place to some degree. Now we don't believe that as strong as necessarily the flee technology, because that place doesn't have a 24/7, mechanical focus to creating the quantum Association. But the people that take the or wear that pendant, they feel connected, and they they may continue to have those prayers for that intention, and so it does uplift them. So that's another way of looking at it, it's it's like having a sacred space or a temple in your house.

Jannecke Øinæs 12:09

So is this machine, or machines harnessing a frequency and sending it out to people all over the world who are subscribing to this?

Jeffrey Stegman 12:23

That's one way to describe it. We we don't use frequency because it's not a frequency generator. It's not a frequency system at all. But it is accumulating because of the design of it. It is accumulating life force, energy, and it's creating a very high consciousness field. So, so part of the explanation of all this is, what is the consciousness field? And we can get to that in a minute. But so the machine, or the system, fleep system, is creating this very high consciousness space, like we saw in the original inventors place. And that that is where the connection happens. The the quantum association is we're saying so that what we have in there originally was piece of paper, and those pieces of paper may have an image on it, like image of a house or an image of a phone. So that was in the very, very beginning, it could have had a legal address on it, which is a defined place in space, and that that information is what would make the connection. And now we're able to connect to it, to a database, and have it be an instant. It used to be in the very beginning, we'd have to someone would join. We'd have to print a print on computer printer, put it into that space, and then they would feel it. And we would we had, especially in the very early days. We had people that we worked with. We said, Okay, is it on or is it off? And they would tell us, and very for the sensitive people would be 100% like they would know when that piece of paper was in the system. So that that was part of the like the very early research beginnings of the company we always were testing. And how do we show evidence of this actually working? But now we're connected to a database. So when someone goes on a free trial, it's like it's on a piece of paper printed and put into the system.

Jannecke Øinæs 14:38

So when I signed up for this and had my free trial, could you then share sort of what was activated on my end?

Jeffrey Stegman 14:50

So when you when you logged in and started the free trial, you put your phone number and your address in there. That address now. Now you could say, went into this, that space on the machine, that very high consciousness space. And with that as well, you could say, We're it's now in a database. Would it would be hundreds and hundreds of pages as well, of instructions. So the first instruction is the creation of the consciousness field. So that happens naturally, but the instruction is, what is the level of consciousness of that field? So when we're sending healing prayers to Mom, we're feeling love. There's love in her field now. So it's much like that that we would specify in writing, that that this consciousness field be at the level of unconditional love, which is is where effort starts. So so as soon as you hit Start with your button, it's like you went into that highly energetic space, your address, and now a field was activated at your home, and it's referenced. It's referencing the legal address, the deeds, the all the paperwork that might have been put in place when that was built, and what are the lot? Where's the lot? Line, how big is the piece of property, or if it's an apartment, where which unit is it? Where is it located in the building? On the drawings? So all of that informs the shape of the consciousness field that now is activated, and then we have instructions for the level of consciousness. And then, as Clayten said, information in the field that's beneficial for us in our in our day to day lives.

Jannecke Øinæs 16:54

And then I also had the field around my cell phone correct. So what would that do? For instance,

Clayten Stedmann 17:05

well, the cell phone and the home or post or home business or nonprofit, they're all based upon the principle of unique identifier. So your cell phone is the only cell phone in the world with that phone number. So that's how the technology associates with either your home or business or any piece of land you're on, or your cell phone. So you enter your phone number into the database on the website, and it associates with the cell phone, even if it's off, because once it's attached, it'll it'll stay connected. And then there's a 300 foot bubble around your cell phone, and the first nine feet is where a lot of the focus is, of the information in the field, and it's the highest energy. And then, just because of the nature of thought forms and electromagnetic fields consciousness lowering electromagnetic fields in particular, it takes time to slow down the negative influences that are coming to create that sort of bubble of protection being stronger and stronger as it gets closer to you. So one of the things we found, for example, with cell phones, is that if you raise a level of consciousness of the emitters in the phones or the antenna, that the consciousness lowering EMFs that emanate from the phone become consciousness raising or life supporting. So there's all sorts of principles like that involved in in the way that the service works.

Jannecke Øinæs 18:51

So what? What is sort of the benefit for me to have, then a consciousness field around my cell phone, particularly

Jeffrey Stegman 19:02

well, the phone, the cell phone, particularly, it's traveling with you. So what's people have found that it's so beneficial to have some EMF mitigation happening. So you know, benefit one is there's more life force energy around you. So there's 1000s of times more life force energy around you. So we, our bodies, take up that life force energy and use it for innate, intelligent healing and repairs and upgrades and raising in consciousness. The second is that it's. The second benefit is it's it's an unconditional love zone. So it's at the level of unconditional love. It's like you, you went to Grandma's house on a holiday, and everyone's loving each other and having fun, and no matter what, you spill on the floor, it's okay, right? It's It's, um, you're in this unconditional love zone. So being in an unconditional love zone all the time means there's various. Parts of us that maybe haven't been loved that way, or haven't perceived they've been loved that way, you know, dissociated parts, then when we had trauma, who just shelled up, or, you know, became, you know, the proponents of beliefs that to keep us safe. So those parts of ourselves start to rise and start to join the party with, you know, the full of who we are. So more energy, unconditional love. And then the third is the EMF mitigation, because there's so many influences right now, the satellites, the 5g towers, the Transformers down the road, every every router, every cell phone somebody has. So what our research is showing, and we were able to do this with First of all, high consciousness field helps filter that somewhat, and then we created information in the field that specifically harmonizes. Those influences, and on a gdv camera, you could see on our research section, it's the energy is much less spiky. It's much less variable in the environment with the epileptic on So, so with your cell phone, you're now driving into those places like we have a customer who called during during one of the webinars, and she was very sensitive to EMFs, and she had her world had just gotten smaller and smaller, and she could not go to the grocery store. She could not drive down the street because there were 5g towers, Transformers. I mean, she would get physically ill. I mean, just like she'd have to stop and get physically ill, and then when she got back home, it would take her days and days to recover. So when she had the phone with her, so that consciousness field in the nine feet that Clayton described is where it's the it's harmonized now, so those EMFs, they're a lot less stimulation to the body that the level is much lower. So she could drive past the transformer, past the 5g tower, and not get sick. Now, she didn't like it, it didn't feel good, but she wasn't getting sick, and she could go home and be okay. So that that was huge for her, to open up her life, to just have it be bigger. So it's very touching to have her call in and talk to us about that. So that's sort of the third big benefit of the phone, is having that with you all the time.

Jannecke Øinæs 22:39

Hey guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes, and my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness, to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so. Thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below. And now let's go back to the episode. And I understand that there are very many people using this around the globe. And your company, I think you're 40 people in the company. So this is quite big. How many users do you have in the world? And if you could also share some stories and experiences people have had after they started subscribing.

Clayten Stedmann 23:44

Well, we're in 81 countries. The last time I checked, it might be one or two more. And we have, I think, over 12,000 subscribers, but 18,000 subscriptions. You know, we have about 40 full time staff, and, you know, a bunch of part time people and contractors. We just, actually, we have a we just bought our own office building, the one we were renting, and it's, I think, with parking, it's 27 28,000 square feet. So it's, it's a substantial building. Yeah, we've been in business 12 years. So we're, yeah, we've, we're, we're pretty solid now, pretty well established. And in terms of stories, yeah, there's so many,

Jannecke Øinæs 24:38

God, what is maybe the most that made the most impression on you?

Clayten Stedmann 24:43

Yeah, well, the one I'm thinking of right now is there was this psychologist that called in during one of our webinars from Spain, and she just had a really hard time the last few years of her life. She had, I think, her husband was diagnosed with stage three cancer. Her at the time, one of her other relatives had passed over, like three months before that, and another relative had passed over six months before that. So this is somebody who was trained in psychology, was a professional person, and she said that up until this point in her life, she led a blessed life. Things just really went well. She found a career she liked. She was happy in her well, she was brought up in a good family, first of all, she said, and she found a profession that she really loved, and met a good man and had a happy, happy marriage, and she just felt blessed. And when her husband was diagnosed with cancer, that was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back for her. She just went into a depression. She said, she said, It's like she fell into a hole. And this is a professional woman. This is a psychologist. You know, she's got as many resources as probably 99% of the population, you know, she's got money too. So, yeah, she said when she went on the service within, within an hour, she just popped out of the out of the hole that she felt like she was in, and she felt like it was a miracle for her. And, yeah, yeah. I mean, we don't make health claims and, you know, just, but that was probably the one that shocked me the most, because she had all the resources that anybody could hope for, and she just needed something extra to help her, and the high consciousness field, or the positive energy just, you know, it just gets people over a threshold sometimes where once you have a certain amount of energy and positivity, then your willpower increases and you have more resources.

Jeffrey Stegman 26:51

Yeah, we had a woman call in last night who'd been on the service three or four years. I think I believe her name was Tara, and I could have that wrong, but she said that she was completely different person. I'm like, What do you mean? She said, before she started flee, she had just a negative outlook. Her she was very she would just see the dark side and things. It was just her nature to do that. And, you know, it made for a difficult life. At times she would didn't feel like she was happy. And going into this high consciousness field in which she started the service, and over time, these parts of her that were, you know, holding that negative outlook, which really could have been protective. It's like, Well, I gotta watch. I gotta watch for all these bad things that are going to happen, because if I don't, they're going to happen to me. So we get these patterns, these beliefs through our childhood and early experiences and and for her, those cleared, and she became very positive. And she said, I would have these thoughts like, this is going to be the best day, and tomorrow is going to be even better. And she would think like, where is this thought coming from? This doesn't feel like my normal in the past me, but it really changed. What she told us is it really has changed her life, and she's become just a much more positive person over time. And you know, her husband, her family, everyone notices it, and they're all on the service as well. So that's that was over a period of years, and she said it, you know, in the beginning, it was tough for her, because things were shifting, like coming up for healing. And that can be, you know, that kind of change can be difficult personally and but she got through it. And really was just thanking us all over. Let me think of some others.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:07

Well, I'm curious about you guys like you. Jeffrey, you probably on the service. How has it changed you perhaps?

Jeffrey Stegman 29:13

Yeah, good question. Yeah, for me, I'm very active, and I've always been very active, and never could meditate, really. I tried when I was younger, my mom took me to a meditation, transcendental meditation, and I got a mantra, and, man, my brain was just always so active, and that took me so I felt like, without that space, being able to kind of find that empty space for myself that my mind was taking over. You know, it felt like just run down pathways and just. Be subject to my thoughts. They weren't. There was no like gap that said, Oh, is that a good idea? And I've felt with FL, FV, this space where I can sit quietly and just do nothing, and and then a thought comes up, and I can notice that thought, you know, which is, is, is something in meditation where I was taught to do, but it never happened for me until I spent time in flee where I could, oh, there's a thought, just let it go, and then I could start to see thoughts that weren't my thoughts. Like, that's not my thought. Like, is, you know, I would ask myself, Is that my thought? And I would get the feeling that it wasn't, it was related to the environment that I was in at the moment, or, you know, some larger societal pattern of thoughts. And so for me, that awareness of my own inner landscape was probably the biggest change that I noticed.

Jannecke Øinæs 31:04

Yeah, it seemed like you raised your awareness and was more in your, what we call it, your soul or essence, and not in the ego mind, that that just shifted. And that's many who meditate are saying that's happening. So you sort of see the help to do that, and it just happened. What about you? Clayten,

Clayten Stedmann 31:26

yeah, you're going to ask that. It's like, how truthful do I want to be?

Jannecke Øinæs 31:32

Okay, I get curious.

Clayten Stedmann 31:35

Well, for me, I think I have noticed a difference in meditating, for sure, but for me, it was moods. I tend to run kind of hot and cold. And I noticed when I was in a because I did a lot of research with the original group of inventors, my state was demonstrably better when I was in the high consciousness field. And since then, it's just gotten better where, you know, instead of the moods going like this, right, they're just kind of, you know, smoothed out. So I'm happier if I do get sort of into a mood, I'm usually, I usually try to find ways to make a joke about it. That's my way to get out, you know, if there's other people around and it's funny. We were, we had an interview last night, and we were talking about all these ways to find peace and find peace and in a changing world, and when I felt moody or upset or angry, I had more space to think about, to sort of cancel that, or get myself out, or even get present enough to know that I needed to go for a long walk. Like going for a long walk was one of those ways where, if I had the time, I would, you know, and I, you know, maybe wasn't getting enough exercise, if I was working in an office, then I would just walk until I broke the tension. But I had the had the awareness to even notice the mood was coming. And I had all these different things that I'd heard about in the past, but I just had a hard time doing them. And when I'm in a high consciousness field, or when the FL, F, u field, I get, you know, I don't stay in the mood, I don't go as deep into the mood. I don't stay in it as long. And it's like I had this self awareness that something's happening and I've got to take action, or, you know, where it's leading me. And I have all these things that we all learn. You know, if you've been on the on the path for decades, like like Asiana and Jeff, and maybe many of your listeners, we've heard a lot of different techniques, and maybe we wonder why we struggle so much to implement them so in a high consciousness field. It's not that the struggle is over, but at least for me, I could implement way more of those good things that I've learned with way less effort. And my life, I know the quality of my life just has gotten better and better every year.

Jannecke Øinæs 34:02

Does it work for everyone? And do you have to believe in it?

Jeffrey Stegman 34:10

One of the one of the very common things that happens is people put it on and they don't tell everybody else in the household, and they see what happens. It tends to be women that do that, because I think we're like 80 to 90% women who are the first subscriber, and then, you know, kind of spreads into the family from there, because they seem to be more open, but they want to see what's going to happen. How are the kids going to be? How's the husband or partner going to be? What goes on with the pets? Of course, there's no placebo there, but, but by not talking about it, they see and we hear multiple stories around that, many of them around people having the now the personal energy lifted, and they're able to. Shift something they've been wanting to shift like, Oh, my husband has been wanting to quit smoking, and I put the FLFE service on the week later he quit smoking. That there's there's when we have more resources. It's just we even naturally, not even knowing we things can shift with our willpower more easily because we have the energy behind that willpower. So I think there's something about consciousness, as we rise, we have more power to create the world we want to manifest or move, you know, a an old habit or addiction to the dustbin. So that's definitely one thing that we hear about a lot from customers. Seems the rest of your question, well, if you, well,

Jannecke Øinæs 35:53

sorry if you have to believe in it, and if it works for everyone? Yeah, yeah.

Jeffrey Stegman 35:57

No, definitely not.

Clayten Stedmann 36:00

Yeah. It's sort of in terms of it working, who it works for, and who it doesn't it. People experience it on a continuum, right? So there are people in the world who are very sensitive, like if you've experienced Reiki or some type of energetic healing, maybe cranial sacral therapy, or something of that nature. And you know that you're sensitive to energy, you'll likely feel the focus, life force, energy, high consciousness field, very strongly. And in fact, some people, we get, you know, testimonials all the time. I turned it on, and within seconds, I felt the environment, you know, just felt better. I felt happier. I felt this, you know, increase in energy. The air smells cleaner. You know, there's things like that all the time that we get. And some people, you know, so maybe 10% of people have this, like, wow, almost like a miraculous, I can't believe this is real. It's so positive. And then we have people that are a very good experience, that people have a good experience, and then there's people on the other end of the spectrum, that they're just not that sensitive to energy. So the field is still there. It's just that, I think their gift to the world is their, you know, single minded, focused, pioneering spirit, where they just, they're the ones that just keep going, you know, they have a lot of persistence and focus. And, you know, the, if you think of the, you know, I always think of the pilgrims going across the prairies, you know, like when they were inhabiting the West in America. And even though I'm in Canada, or an old trapper, or a geologist looking for gold. You know, they're just, he's very hardened individuals, and they can go out in extreme conditions, very, you know, not much food, carrying their backpack with them. You know, other stuff, like the mountain men. You know, they're just very individualistic. They don't seem to have the sensitivity that other people do. Their gift is their pioneering self energized focus. Now, if you do the free trial, you get an email, I think it's the second day that gives you 20, about 20 ways to notice the effect of the high consciousness field in your home, right? So you look at, well, if you put it on it, don't tell anybody else in the house. You look at the other people in the house. Are they getting along better? Are they sleeping better? That's really common. Yeah. Do they have the ability to change a long term, intransigent habit with, like, a long term habit like Jeff mentioned, smoking, are the pets calmer, right? Are the plants doing better? Like we have four plants for plant research studies on our website, and that's we have a double blind, a double plot blind study we did with a farm in Saskatchewan, Canada. Wecker farms was a 10,000 acre red wheat farm study where they had the, you know this John Deere tractor that has a satellite in it that measures the amount of pounds of grain off of every acre of land, and the farmer know which acres were on FL, F, E, and which weren't. So that was a double blind study. So you have to look for things in the environment if you don't notice it yourself, like your friends coming over more and you know, they don't want to leave, right? So they're eating all your groceries, right? So the grocery bill goes up. There's just things like that that, you know, you wouldn't think about, but there's about but there's about 20 of them, and you just have to see if it works for you.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:47

That's true. I mean, that's the most important, and pointing that out now that you just have to test it out, right and see if it works for yourself. Because I think there's some healing. Methods and some technique works for some others don't work for them. And I think it's all about trying out different things, and this is what this channel is about. So I wanted to, you know, learn more about this. And I've also tested it myself twice, and the first time I didn't notice anything, except for when it was I could boost it, and when I was boosting it, I felt tingling in my fingers and in my body a bit as well. And I did it several times. I was like, Who? And the second time I just when I tried it out a new 14 days, I felt calmer, like when I'm thinking back. And now I'm not on the subscription, and I want to test that too. I felt that my mood was a bit more stable, and I was like calmer, in a way, and I had very good sleep with lots of dreams. So that is what I could notice. And I would love to try more, to continue the subscription, to see if I can notice any changes, because I'm just a curious soul. So, so, yeah, I think that's important, that it might work for you and it might not, but why not test it out? And it is a free trial, right? So it's just to sign up and see, and then you don't need to put in your credit card. Or how does it work?

Jeffrey Stegman 41:22

Right? Yeah. I mean, from the very beginning, that was our ethic, that we want people to try it in two with the two weeks as a gift. It's enough time that people can feel it and also benefit from it. And if they subscribe, great. If they don't, great. So at the end of the free trial there, first of all, there's no credit card to put in. Card to put in. So there's no accidental charges, nothing to cancel. At the end of the free trial, you have to want to subscribe and go subscribe. So it's not there's no big sell. It's all around support for for the people that are in the free trial and subscribers, and we have the that's why we have such a big staff, because they're there on the phone to talk to you like I'm having this experience. What you know? What does this mean? Or this is happening, and coaching people to drink enough water, because that's really important. When you get more life force energy, the body goes, goes to work, as we've said, it needs water, and so the staff is there to to help during the free trial. So, and there's, there's really no pressure. It's like, try it works for you. Great. Doesn't great?

Jannecke Øinæs 42:36

And it was funny, because you guys told me that my house at a high frequency already. Like, do you have, like, a wood? Are you living in the woods or something? And I'm literally looking at the woods right there. Your spots on, on that. And that was nice to hear that my house has a high vibration.

Clayten Stedmann 42:57

You're a student of life. You're a pretty high vibration person. And for sometimes, when the house is really high, the contrast between, say, the level of conscious of flee, if your house is at, say, 500 on the Hawkins scale of consciousness, and then it goes up to 560 or 570 right, which is the unconditional love zone for you. The contrast might not be as much as other people, because you have a high consciousness house already. And you know, if you had, like a geopathic stress zone under your house, and let's say it was the energy was really low, right? Or there was some strong electromagnet, negative electromagnetic influence, the contrast might be bigger if you try flfe, because it's like, it's already low and it's going way up, but with you, it's pretty high already, which is great, and so it's probably going to be a more subtle experience.

Jannecke Øinæs 43:54

So I'm going to ask, like, the skeptical questions for those who are thinking, Hmm, I'm not sure. So why, uh, couldn't this, for instance, be free for everyone? Wouldn't that be a lovely world if we just have extra, uh, an extra consciousness filled with high vibes, even though it was not about frequencies, it's just the way I'm interpreting it in my mind.

Jeffrey Stegman 44:19

Well, that would be, that would be awesome if you know our building was free and our electricity was free, and paying everyone, everyone could be free. The problem is we've all we're in we're in societies where people have to make a good living, and we're very committed in our business to to being a really good place to work and have a long term career. So we've we've kept the price low. In fact, we've had one price increase in 11 years. So that's pretty amazing when you think about the what's happened in the world, and we've continually. Added more and more value to it. And we're working right now on an upgrade. So we do these upgrades, and it just goes into the service and everybody benefits from it. So we've had now five different increases or upgrades to our EMF mitigation, and we're about to do the sixth and the seventh to just kind of keep up with what's going on in the world. So, you know, I just feel that with without an energy exchange there. I mean, it's part of how the world works, and there is, like a basic energetic exchanges that is important for all of us. So that's, that's why we are, kind of where are, where we are. There's really not a lot of choices otherwise.

Jannecke Øinæs 45:52

Are there other in the world that offers this, or is this, is this totally unique what you guys are doing?

Clayten Stedmann 46:02

It's, pretty unique. I mean, what we're finding is other people are noticing what we're doing doing, and trying to copy it or created their own version of it. And it seems that as the world changes, and sometimes we wonder if it's getting better or worse, but I'm going to propose that it's getting better, and that nature or divinity, or God, if you want to call it with more sort of em negative, EMFs, Coming into the world, for example, there will be technologies and tools and resources that will be revealed to humanity that will help compensate for that. We think it's a law of the universe, so to speak, and we're part of that emerging group of technologies that are helping people find more harmony and, you know, and a world that has a lot of EMF smog in it, for example, or really, it's, it's, it's the EMFs themselves and the consciousness lowering EMFs, but it's also the way that they lower the consciousness of an area. So most people don't think of it that way, and we didn't really discover that a lot of these EMS will lower consciousness until we were so we test all our properties every week on the service to make sure they're at level right. And we found that there was a couple properties that were dropping in consciousness. And when we called the subscriber, they said, You know, nobody said they noticed anything, but they did say I had a because we catch it pretty quickly. Well, we just had a new smart meter put in. There's a new cell phone tower went across the street. We just had a new router put in. And there's a certain, there's a certain level of this electromagnetic smog that happens in a certain combinations that really actually lower the vibration of the area. And so, yeah, we just believe we're part of that emerging counter balance that nature provides.

Jeffrey Stegman 48:15

So electromagnetic fields can fall into multiple categories. You have the natural electromagnetic fields, like what the Earth's magnetism, magnetic fields and electrical fields produce the human resonance from the fire, you know, the lightning. Those that that is information that comes into our system, and we we couple with it, because we have our own magnetic fields and electrical fields, so EMFs, so we're we're broadcasting our our dog wagging its tail, is broadcasting the Earth and the Sun. So those are natural and those are our body wants those. There's some benefits to us to experience those. And then there are man made artificial EMFs, or electromagnetic fields, which can be within a field different frequencies, but it creates like a space around it, like if you go past the transformer, you can hear that hum. But there's also an invisible magnetic and electrical field around that transformer that is disruptive to our system. There's some very kind of sharp, intense frequencies within those the same in a 5g tower smart meter, any of these emitters create either electrical field or a magnetic field or both, and they that can be disruptive to our own system. So even a light bulb in your kitchen or a refrigerator can emit EMFs because there's something electrical happening. Happening there. So it's electromagnetic field, and then there's frequencies within it. So and some people are very sensitive to those, and can feel whole series of different symptoms. And our research go into that with our research.

Jannecke Øinæs 50:18

So if a person goes on the subscription, what can they expect? Like, how much would the vibration be raised by turning that service on?

Clayten Stedmann 50:32

Well, it depends on the house. Like, for example, your house is pretty high. It's in the top 1% already and and oftentimes places close to nature are a little bit higher consciousness. That's why people like going into the woods, you know. And I think there's this phenomena now. I've seen an advertisement in the local health magazine for forest bathing. People go into the forest and they feel like to have a bath and the energy of nature, it's like, wow. When I was a kid, we just went and played in the forest all the time. You know now, it's a, it's a, it's a meditation method. So, so the average home, let's say, in North America, is about, well, if you and the US, it's about 252 60 on the Hawkins map of consciousness, it goes up and down depending on what's going on right like right now in Los Angeles, you have the riots. So it's really low there, but in other places, it's quite high. So this scale that we use is the Hawkins scale of consciousness. One point up on the Hawkins scale is 10 times more energy. It's logarithmic, so the scale starts at just above zero and goes to infinity. Right? The human realm is a one to 1000 for example. So 200 is courage, 500 is love, 600 is peace, 700 is a beginning of enlightenment. So, because we live in an economized society, we set the level of consciousness about 550 which is unconditional love. And if you do a free trial, you'll get access to a control panel, and you can slide the consciousness up and down in your home. You can be your own consciousness researcher. You can turn your EMF mitigation on and off. You can turn the service on and off, some people really only notice that when it's off, because they just acclimatize to the positivity. So you will have a different experience based upon the land that you're on and the type of person that you are, right, if you're super sensitive to EMFs, as Jeff said, you might have a very like strong positive experience, someone like yourself who is in a high, conscious home. You're a student of life. You know you're probably pretty high consciousness. So it might be a little more subtle. Now, it doesn't mean that if you don't feel it a lot, that you're not evolved. We don't want people to think that. We're not trying to make people feel bad about themselves. You just may be one of those people who's not so sensitive, right? And that that may your, that may be your biggest gift to the world. We need people that aren't that sensitive, any people who can go into hard environments and do hard things, right? So it's a good question, but there's really no answer that we can give you that will, that will be right for everybody.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:24

Since you're in this field, have you looked into the consciousness level at humanity right now? Is that something you could track?

Clayten Stedmann 53:34

We do that all the time.

Jannecke Øinæs 53:38

What's the answer? What's the level?

Jeffrey Stegman 53:44

Well, but we tend to look at, we tend to look at places like the earth in total countries, rather than, you know, what's the sum total of all the individuals? But all the individuals are and the earth, together are creating, you know, the overall level of consciousness. So I know that we have on our website, history of consciousness of the entire planet. We went back 3000 years. Used kinesiology testing with a team of testers to lay that out. And you know, the Earth really kind of cracked this 200 barrier, so kind of in the way this scale works, below 200 things are not positive. And it's kind of like a spiral, like despair, fear, there's just things are not positive. And then once you get over 200 things start to become positive. It's a big threshold, and it really changes a lot. Well, the earth went over 200 for the first time. You're Clayton, 19. Well, 1986 Yeah. 86 Yeah. So that, I mean, in 3000 years, that was the first time. Time that the Earth went over that 200 so that there was some big changes starting to happen. You know, in the 60s and 80s, 70s, 80s is on that trajectory. And the the the earth the 2019 was at its highest point that it had ever been. So with COVID and the various wars, it's taken a nosedive, but it's been climbing, climbing up steadily in spite of these things that are happening. So where is it now? Clayten, I lost track.

Clayten Stedmann 55:42

Yeah, well, with the Ukraine war and issues in the Middle East, particularly Israel, the world's about 199 out of 1000 as a planet. And I just I did some research on Norway yesterday. Interesting. I was going to ask you, well, yeah, I was watching some documentaries on Norway, and I watched this great documentary about your, God, I don't It's not called your National Fund. What's it called? Where you take the oil revenues and put them into do you invest them? The Oil Fund? The Oil Fund, yeah. Is that what it's called?

Jannecke Øinæs 56:19

We call it that. Yeah. It's

Clayten Stedmann 56:23

anyway. They have a it's like in British Columbia here, when they put all these dams in for the Columbia Basin Water Treaty, the local area got a bunch of money, and then we put more dams in, and it's created this fund for the area to offset the environmental damage and the cultural damage and economic damage from the flooding of the rivers into lakes. So we have a fund like that in this area where we are, in Nelson, British Columbia. And so the reason I mentioned that is because Norway is one of the most economically stable countries in the European Union and perhaps the world. And so it helps. Level of consciousness of the country when it has a good financial footing, just like us as individuals, if we have we're financially stable, we can relax more. We don't have to worry about the basics of life, you know, food, clothing and shelter, so so on. The Hawkins scale of consciousness, two hundreds. Courage, 250 is neutral. 300 is willingness. 350 Yeah, 303 50 is willingness. 400 is reason. 500 is love. And Norway's in the reason. It's about 410 420 so it's in Reason, which is pretty high, I would Yeah, it's gonna say, I think it was in the it was in the top 20 countries on the planet, but I can't remember where it was. I was figuring figuring it out for you, but there was too many, too many data points in my head.

Jannecke Øinæs 57:50

Interesting. Yeah. How do you measure that? Is that also through these machines?

Clayten Stedmann 57:57

No, it's done through muscle testing, muscle testing, kinesiology, yeah. So we have a team of testers in the business. We have about seven of us who've done over 14 million calibrations as a group. So we do a lot of consciousness research using using Kinesiology.

Jannecke Øinæs 58:13

Interesting, yeah,

Jeffrey Stegman 58:16

so, yeah. So the muscle testing is based on the principle that the body knows the truth, even if the mind is clueless, right? So the mind is kind of going on its own, but the body is our truth machine. It's our truth teller. So in the presence of truth, like say, if you had your you've got your arm out. In the presence of truth, your arm is strong. And in the presence of untruth, it would be weak where you you quit, you can't hold it up. And I've seen this done with a cuff that it makes sure the pressure is the same for, you know, the whole time. And you can see it's a huge difference in the body strength. So we use that, that basic principle, to make a statement. And these statements have to be very well designed, where every word is is is defined. So you you're there's no ambiguity about what the statement means. So the statement is made you're either strong or you're weak. And that you can use that to measure on a scale of consciousness or any, any kind of scale. So it's, it's an incredible tool for research and for just living a good life or helping you make decisions. But it's, it's difficult to do on your own, because you can, like, is this, you know, am I dehydrated and I'm getting the opposite answer now, or do I have some strong belief that the answer is yes? So, you know, my strong I'm getting an erroneous result. So that's why we have a team of people. So when they're measuring, they have to. Be within a certain percentage of the answer with each other or certain number of points. So when we test the properties, they have this very long statement that they read, and then they're testing whether it's true or not true, and they go through the scale that way,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:00:15

just to show it a bit better on camera. So you're doing like this, and for everybody listening, and someone's touching the arm, and then, you know, it gets weak when it's a no and when it's a yes, it's strong. It holds strong. Yeah. It's interesting how our bodies just have all the answers, or our our system has all the answers, right? Fascinating. So I just want to be fully honest, like I really believe in this. And I first heard it from Angie Hipple, who have collaborated with. She told our members about it. In our membership, Regina Meredith, who I've interviewed, has been speaking about this. Lee Harris, who I've just interviewed. So that's why I got curious myself. And I've noticed, you know, the tingling. I noticed some small changes as well, and that's why we're part of promoting this and being an affiliate. So for everybody watching, if you are drawn to this, you could test it out, see if it's for you. If you're not drawn to it, then you don't have to test it out, but at least then you have the possibility and you know about it, and that was my mission today, to share awareness around it, because if it does help, you know, that's of a great help, and I want to share whatever helps, right? So it has been a great joy getting to know you guys. And I'm going to ask you a couple of questions that I ask all my guests. And I can start with you, Jeffrey, what is self love to you?

Jeffrey Stegman 1:01:55

To me? Self Love is, is unconditional love for really, all the aspects, all the aspects of me, even if I don't like that aspect, it's that acceptance of where that came from. You know, that might have been like we talked about early childhood trauma or something that happened. So to me, self love is unconditional acceptance of all that I am. And what

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:24

about you Clayten?

Clayten Stedmann 1:02:29

Well, my answer is to accept myself just the way I am in spite of, you know, my ongoing evolution. We'll call it. It's just accepting myself for who I am right now, despite of everything.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:47

And Jeffrey, what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Jeffrey Stegman 1:02:54

I believe that we're here to to grow and evolve, to to to transcend anything that's holding us back, any patterns or beliefs that are are not our true self, our like highest version of ourself, And that we're here to transcend and evolve and express the fullness of who we are.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:28

What about you Clayten?

Clayten Stedmann 1:03:32

I would say the purpose of life is to achieve and sustain enlightenment and support each other to do so.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:40

Very nice. I always love listening to all my guests sharing their perspectives, because it's always something new and interesting and it opens our minds. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'll drop a link below in the video description and on the podcast for everybody who is interested in testing this out, it's a free trial 14 days. Is there anything else you guys want to add today?

Jeffrey Stegman 1:04:06

Well, we should add that there is what we call a PIF, or a pay it forward. So once the free trial is done, if you did decide to subscribe, you immediately get this pay it forward, where you can put a subscription anywhere in the world, and it stays there for as long as we continue to run the business, which is going to be decades and decades. So that's a gift that then you can give to the world, anywhere

Jannecke Øinæs 1:04:33

nice.

Clayten Stedmann 1:04:36

Well, I guess along those lines, sometimes we tell people that, you know, we actually give about 95% of the energy of the technology away in service work we do anonymous projects around the world when, fact, before Jeff and I started flfe, it was just before 2000 and at 12, and there's a lot of concern about the Mayan calendar switching on to. 21st and what would happen? And we were going on Google Earth once we'd sort of, we'd gotten the technology to work to a certain degree, not as nearly as well as it does now. We would go on Google Earth, and we would calibrate those consciousness place on a continent, and we would put a high consciousness field on that area, and it would lift the area up, and it would lift, sometimes the whole area around it, because it's like this air, this this area was maybe drawing a lot of negativity, negativity into it, or negative energy emanating from it, like, say, it was an old Battlefield, there's a lot of trauma there, or it was an old prison site, or something like that, and it had this history, this negative energy. So we would, you know, there's a law of non interference. You can only put the energy so high without getting permission from someone on the land. But we would put it to a certain level of consciousness, and it would help the whole area. And we would just went around the Earth, doing that on Google Earth every morning. You know, before we started our day, about an hour, and to this day, we still give about 95% of it away. We just do anonymous service work. So that's part of the so by supporting us, that's part of what you're supporting in the world is a lot of a lot of generosity

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:20

That's lovely. And you're probably doing that in war zones as well, right?

Clayten Stedmann 1:06:23

Yeah, it's just service work. I mean, lots of people are, lots of people do good things. Otherwise we'd have no human race, you know? And I don't think we're special in that way, but sometimes it's good to mention it. It's, yeah, lots of people are, are trying to help their fellow human beings in the in the human family.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:45

Yeah, we're all in this together. We have one globe. Yes. Well, thank you so much for coming to the show and sharing about this interesting, conscious technology that was new to me a few months ago, and now it's a new adventure. So thanking thank you so much for your work and for coming here today.

Jeffrey Stegman 1:07:09

Thank you for having us on