Unveiling the Humanity Experiment! With Regina Meredith

Regina Meredith 0:00

An experiment of incredibly vast, profound proportions. As they watched, there was nothing anyone could do once it was made, it was made, and no one knew how it was going to turn out. They were able to come in through this portal, they called it, to merge their energies with these life forms. These beings were experiencing these different life forms, a plant, a tree, a bird, a fish. But what happened in just merging with them for play, they were starting to interfere with the development of the DNA. They were starting to distort the expression that had been created of these species, and causing problems in their development. It had to get pretty bad for us to say, Holy cow, I didn't think it could get this bad. They're still hiding. They're still trying to keep control of us, keep us consuming, keep us from asking questions, keep us from demanding change. We don't have to buy into it to whatever degree we can choose sovereignty of choice, of how we're going to use our energy, of who we're going to collaborate with, who we're going to spend our time with, what we're going to allow our minds to engage with, creating change from the bottom up, that's up to us.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06

Regina Meredith, a warm welcome back to the show.

Regina Meredith 1:09

Thank you. It's good to see you again.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:13

It's lovely seeing you again. We had such an intriguing conversation the last time, which was really well received, and that's why we wanted to do this again, to dive even deeper. And for those who are new to you, you are the famous hostess of open minds and Gaia. You have been a news anchor on NBC and PBS, and you have interviewed over 1000 thought leaders. And I've known of you for years, and you've been my role model, so thrilled to be here. And the last time I actually opened up with asking you a deep question about about our human origin, and you said that you needed to have a whole episode just on that, because you have received knowledge about that through your guides. And I was thinking, that is our focus today, to understand who we really are as species, maybe if our history books have it all wrong and where we're going, because you're also the author of the future human that just came out a book with Lee Harris, and I'm going to interview him later on about that too. So let's start with, how have you received this information? Before we dive deep?

Regina Meredith 2:33

Okay, so probably it's been a little over four decades ago now, I was in a space in my life where I was looking for something. I'd had some paranormal experiences. And you know, the usual that people have and things you can't exactly explain away, but I have a pretty insatiable curiosity to get to the bottom of certain things in life, especially things of a more spiritual nature. So I was actually looking for a friend had been through TM, so I thought, well, maybe that's what I need. I need a mantra. I need to find a guru to give me a mantra. So I was on my search for a mantra, and I was going through a metaphysical newspaper that was prevalent in the day, and I saw a man with a turban, and I thought, Oh, his name is Siri. Maybe he can give me my mantra. I mean, this is like Patty the caterpillar before she turns into a butterfly. I'm very innocent. And I thought, Okay. And as soon as I looked at his picture, there was a woman and a man in a photo underneath it, and my eyes fell down, and I locked eyes with the picture of her eyes, and something came over me, and I thought, I have to know this woman. I don't know who she is or what she does. I have to know her. And then I read the description of what they were advertising underneath the man with the turban, and it was channeling, and I didn't know what channeling was, because that wasn't common back then rompha had started up. I mean, there, it was pretty esoteric. A few people knew about it. It wasn't a thing. It was just starting to be a thing, I should say so I was uninformed, even though I was well ensconced in the circles of psychics and that phenomena in the city I lived in, it at pretty high levels. The top people were my friends, but still channeling wasn't even word that had come up. People did readings. That's it. So that channeling, what the heck is that? And I thought, I don't care what it is, I have to meet this woman. And so I pestered them until she would agree to see me because they were in the middle of the move. And ultimately, when I went over to their house, I walked in to the living room where she was in a kind of a lazy boy lounger, and her eyes were closed, and she was dead still. And before anything else. Else. I just felt an energy in the room that was huge and profound. I'd never felt anything like it. And I thought, okay, I wasn't speaking in terms of energy at that point in my life, either. So it's like, Hmm, this is interesting. Then her husband said, gently, take her hand very, very gently, and then say your name three times. That was the beginning. So that was the beginning of my meeting up with on a conscious level, my soul group, after having been kind of out in the cold for a few lifetimes, from just trying to be human, doing what humans do. So the first questions I asked were so profoundly answered. They were telling me things that I had been having visions of, for example. So this is not random stuff. They were seeing everything. And it's like they could see through me on a soul level, a personal level, and I've never experienced that to this day with any other beings, but it was all for purpose. It turns out they are my soul group. That's who I was meeting, and she was a clear channel, and I mean, the kind that you don't really see much of when I when I got to know her, I asked her, What is it you're seeing? What? What's your experience of this? Because we became, obviously very close friends through the years. And she said, I'm she had to go out through a series of symbols that she knew, and she would go out somewhere else, and they would meet with her in some other dimension. And once that happened, she was just set aside. She said, I'm I'm kind of there. I'm almost like, you I can see over my shoulder a little bit, but I'm not part of it. It's like, I'm just being used and that sense and don't real. And she was, she would be an observer that was like, Oh my god. I can't believe they're saying that she was very much apart from it. And said how it appeared was like a very large screen with hundreds or 1000s of pixels. And so as you and the pixels were components within your aura of everything that you have experienced through all of your incarnations. And when the person would ask a question, a pixel would pop off the screen and then fill the entire screen, because the question would be about that aspect of life, or that period of their incarnation path, so it would blow up full screen. And then she would they would give the details to the person of what, whatever it was they needed to know. And they they were not encouraged to ask frivolous questions. You know, does he love me? Does he love me? Not? They were not interested in any of that. They weren't interested in money or careers unless it was a Dharma thing. So it was very precise, but you could ask almost anything about your soul's journey and what you had learned along the way. And so during this time, I became part of a little group of six of us. And on Sundays we would get together, and there would be an afternoon channeling where each of us could ask whatever we wanted. And I was really big on the big questions. And by this time, they had already put out a book, a Q and A book very, very poorly, added to everything. It was just really amateurish, but some of the information in there was solid gold, and I had read it, so I started following up. And to me, the most fascinating story that came up was when her husband started asking about the origins of humanity. I got tingles, and I thought, Ah, this makes sense. It makes sense, and it allows the other stories to remain true. It's, it's kind of precedes the other stories and to make sense of us. And so as the years went on, I started asking more questions about it that provided a little bit of connective tissue, and that's what I'll share with you today. So the story that they give is to some the only story I've heard that's similar to it about our origins is Edgar Cayce when he speaks of these souls from a higher dimension that came here and they were just playing this story has those components in it, but it goes into more detail, and it goes into the actual merging between those higher dimensional entities and the physical human bodies that were on earth at that time and what happened, and what has happened since, And what's happening now.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:41

I'm ready with my popcorn.

Regina Meredith 9:42

Okay, the tea is the big one.

Jannecke Øinæs 9:47

My coffee, amen.

Regina Meredith 9:50

So, so the story goes like this, that in the beginning, and we're talking in the beginning of third. Dimensional Earth there was, there were already other dimensions of Earth, other dimensions of earth that had high life form, intelligences that no longer were physical in nature, because they were in a less dense field. We're all familiar with levels of density and frequency, so I don't need to explain that. So they were in we would tend to label it hierarchically as a higher dimensional field, a finer dimensional field. It was certainly less dense. These beings do not like the notion of hierarchy. They don't like the idea of calling something more or less higher and lower. They're in that sense, I guess you could say spiritually, very egalitarian, in that all forms of life are in all dimensions, throughout the universes, are here to learn, expand and grow. And it doesn't matter if it's an amoeba or if it's us or if it's some refined Master, you know, who is far beyond physicality. So part of it was that there was a unique situation that occurred that doesn't normally occur. They called it an anomaly, which is why many, many channelers called the human race, the human species, an experiment. They said, yes, it ended up that way. No, it was not intended to be an experiment, but it did become an experiment because of how it came together, so as Earth was forming in all the natural ways, with gasses and spin rates and geometry, minerals and so forth. The way anything in the physical world is formed with a creative template that spun into motion through great creative minds. And it was a group of minds that created this particular third dimensional Earth, just as happens throughout the universe with everything. And as this was being created, there was the anomaly was that there was a plasticity, a soft spot, a permeability between dimensions. And this is the key to the story. When this earth, the third dimensional Earth, was forming with all of its incredible diversity and life forms of all kinds, whether it's a fern or a tree or a bird, fish. You know, more complex animals. As as the development went on, the animals became more complex. Structures became more complex, even in the world of flora and Fauci from simple forms to more complex forms. I mean, can you imagine a mind that would create a dahlia or a rose? I mean, to me, that's just yummy. It's like who created, who thought to create a rose with that incredible, very, very high frequency scent and those beautiful, velvety petals. That was a creation. Everything here is a creation. And, of course, my favorite the redwood trees. And so as these creations were happening, there were beings, many, many beings. It wasn't a small number that were new of this happening in this dimension. And also had discovered there was an anomalous plasticity, permeability between the dimensions. Now, first, I think it's very important for us to understand there's a reason that, yes, certain people can move between dimensions. Certain shamans at a very high level, you know certain of the people in the Buddhist tradition, for example, that have learned to completely master the world of mind and over physicality. But this is rare, and the reason is you would go insane. You couldn't live a normal life and learn normal lessons if there was not definition between dimensions, this is our playing field. If you did not have that, you could literally, you literally would be in the midst of other civilizations sitting right where you are right now. Other civilizations and other densities, they look different. They're playing by different rules. They're experiencing the reality totally different. They see different colors and hear different sounds, and that could all be in the palm of your hand, literally. So there's a reason that we have clearly defined dimensions. And so this dimension had a hole in it, so to speak, as it was forming. And now I never asked, why, how, how did this happen? They said, well, it was an anomaly. And so the beings from a higher dimension of earth were able to, like Edgar Casey's story says, were able to come and play. Now, initially, in the early years, I didn't know where these beings were coming from, because we had now. Lost. And I thought it was just beings from throughout the universe were swinging by and say, Whoa, there's a terror that's interesting. No, it wasn't like that. They said, No, it was another dimension of earth that already existed with beings. So going to those beings, they explained them as being very highly intelligent, very creative, with the ability to create at the speed of thought. In other words, no time, no gravity, no resistance, they could create whatever they wish to experience at the speed of thought because they were non physical in nature. So you can understand that. You can understand it's you're creating all the time in your mind. It's just the difference is, we think of it as just a thought, where for them, that would be their reality, and we will be going back to more of that in the future, by the way, as humans, but at this time, they could create at the speed of thought, but they did not have the physicality and the senses. And so to be able to come into a physically sensual world, they were able to come in through this portal, they called it, and they were able to merge their energies with these life forms. So from going, from feeling no resistance, no gravity, nothing physical at all, merging through this plasticity into a new at underground process. This was under creation. Still. Earth was still in the creative process. Its frequencies were different at that time. We have to remember that too. It had not settled solidly into the third dimension. It was still in a slightly higher frequency range as all of these thought forms became concretized into material form, so they were easier to merge with at that time. So imagine a tree, but just a little less dense of a tree. They could take their energy and embody a tree. And I'll if you'd like to bookmark this little statement I'm going to make. We can get back to it in Atlantean times, the wonderful, great Atlantean teachers used, and I was a student, and probably a teacher too at that time, but as a student, I remember some of the experiments with this of merging with other things, and I can tell you what it was like later. So here we are. Many beings are playing. And so initially they said they would merge with a plant, they would merge with a fish, something very simple, and it wasn't interfering with anything, really. It was just like having a joy ride. Like, well, I could, you can bookmark this too. We used to do this in Lemuria. I went into a past life once, and I was merging my energy, getting out of my body, and merging with very large birds at the time. So things do this. It's just for fun. Just experience something different. So these beings were experiencing these different life forms. It could be a plant, a tree, a bird, a fish. But what happened is the complexity continued expanding. You were getting into much more complex life forms. And ultimately it got to the point in create. The creation process. There were, there were a number of what we would call humanoid types of life forms. It would there were, there were, there were simultaneous creations. Shall we say that what we are now, what we see and experience as the human body simultaneously, was created alongside what we would call a Sasquatch, for example, it was a different creation. We're not knocked on from each other. These are separate creations. Now, Sasquatch has been able to survive with its intelligence and instincts, high high intuition intact by staying away from us, pretty much by being able to live in very remote, isolated conditions. And they still do exist so as the complexity moved toward the more developed species, higher intelligence. You're talking about a very intricate wiring system between the brain and the nervous system. For example, they were starting to merge with these more complex forms. Now they had their own desires, their own levels of intelligence,

Regina Meredith 19:25

and it could be just a mammal of a larger proportion. But what happened in these, in playing, in just merging with them for play and experience, is they were there were enough of them doing enough of this. They were starting to interfere with the development of the DNA. So they were starting to distort the expression that had been created of these species and causing problems in their development, procreation, etc. And so it was getting out of control. Basically, it wasn't desirable for the beings that were developing here. This is their land. This was there. That was the creation. Of this dimension. And there came a time when it was known. And this involves beings from all over, particularly highly advanced, technologically advanced, third dimensional entities from other planetary systems. That's where they become involved here. So they've been here from the very beginning. What was decided was that it wasn't serving the developing species to have these very highly electrical beings coming into their field and causing distortions and disturbances. And it was never abusive. It was always just for the pleasure of the entity, not really understanding that it was having an effect on these developing beings. So there was a decision that was made that one species needed to be, needed to come forward, so to speak, or it needed to be decided upon in agreement with the species on their own soul level, that there would be a merging of the ones that were coming through the portal. Now the reason for this was the frequencies were starting to lower and slow down. The spin rate of this development became slower and more solid, and we were settling into third dimension frequency. These beings coming from, where they came from, could not handle that for sustained periods of times, and they were hanging out here for sustained periods of times. So what happened is their own frequency range started lowering. Now you can imagine anyone could imagine this, if you go into something like a flop house where people are near death and have literally lost their will and their life force, and all beauty is gone, all hope is gone. If you hang out there long enough, your frequencies were going to start matching it, and you're going to have a hard time getting back to who you were. And people know, people who've been through this, where this has happened, well, that's what was happening to these beings. And there was a choice that had to be made, which is, go home, stay home, do not come back. The door's closing. This experiment is over. And there were those who thought, I can push it a little longer. Lot of them, I can push it a little longer. And essentially they're frequent. They couldn't get back home. They were kind of stuck here. And Casey's work talks about this too. They were stuck here. And there were others who said, You know what, whatever this is, I want to be part of it. I'm going to stay with it. And they still had enough clarity from their home dimension that they could also serve as guides for those who were no longer able to live back up into their true memories of who they were and their capabilities they were not going to be able to use their capabilities any longer now. This is this is where it's interesting to me to create the speed of thought. Would be a human now, our dream, right? They were going to give that up. You don't create the speed of thought with this degree of density and time, especially when you start getting the mental projections of other people in cooperation with others involved. It's a slow thing to be able to create something of substance on this planet. That's just part of the gig of being in third dimensional form. So there were the volunteers who chose to stay with this project, and they would serve as the more guiding forces Once this happened. So there were the it was agreed upon by all. And I said, Well, what, what form did we choose? And I mean, I see what we are now. And they said, actually, what you were then is very similar to what you are now. It you were not part of an ape species. You could say at the most that you were a very, very, very distant relative of an ape species, simply because of some genetics, but you were very similar to what you are. Now, from the beginning, I thought that was kind of interesting. And so we were what we are, this, this human form, human animal was the most dexterous, the most intelligent of the species, so they had the most to work with if there was going to be emerging. For souls that were trapped in a dimension where they had no expression, you know, they couldn't really do anything. If you're from another field and you're just hanging out more or less as a ghost. There's not a lot you can do here. So in choosing to inhabit a physical body, you would have the full sensual experience that they were playing with anyway. So upon the time when the merging happened, yeah. Our beings said it was everyone was watching. There were so many beings from so many places that were witnessing what was about to happen here. And they said it was more or less a disaster. It did not go well. And they explained, in a very visceral sense, what happened first. Let's backtrack a moment before this merging occurred, the beings from other planetary systems that had genetic technology, for example, who were able to work with brains, brain stems, electrical systems and so forth. They were third dimensional themselves, so and some of them probably had gone through a physical stage similar to what we were at. Many of these beings came in to help. So what was required was they did, we'll say electrical engineering, so to speak, on the human forms that were already here in order for them to be able to rework the electrical system so that they could the body could handle that much sheer electricity, and to say nothing of intelligence. So there was tweaking that was done. So when people talk about our being a hybrid species, if you're looking at it through this lens, yes, that's true. There was work done for this vehicle to be able to accept that amount of light, electricity and intelligence. So they thought that, well, okay, everything's kind of set and tweaked, and we think we don't know, we'll see. So the merging time came, and they said the animal was absolutely freaked out, with the sheer amount of electricity running through it, and what was happening to their brains. And some of them literally went mad. Others could barely handle it and were just disoriented for eons. Others handled it a little better, and there were those who did successfully make that merge, but it sounded like not a super high percentage. It was mostly being way knocked off balance because the way they were accustomed to thinking and creating wasn't available. They couldn't just get think their way out of this situation at all. This was permanent, well, till the end of the lifetime anyway, and they were be, they would be altered from that time forward. They would not be the same soul they were before they entered this human form. So they said, from the beings point of view, the other dimensional, non physical beings point of view. And remember, each of these had a soul. So you're talking an animal that has its own soul, and you're talking about these highly advanced beings that have their own soul, and you're trying to stuff them into the same vehicle, and this is not done. That's how they said. That is why humanity is such an incredible source of curiosity and hope and a lot of things for beings from other places. Because this isn't done. They said you can't understand the enormity of taking two different species and putting them into one body. So the being was overwhelmed with the senses. All of a sudden, through the eyes, came all of this light and information horrific sounds they to them were cacophonous sounds, because they didn't have senses, the feeling of the animal, their heart pounding with all this electricity running through the body and the being, almost feeling blinded by the light, so to speak, and the feelings just the sheer expression of this physicality that They had never really experienced. They were just playing before. Now they're in it. And so

Regina Meredith 29:07

they said, on both halves, it was very challenging for this to occur. And then the idea was, and the beans that my my soul group, they've been around forever, said, as they watched, it was there was nothing anyone could do once. This was once it was made. It was made, and no one knew how it was going to turn out. It was a an experiment of incredibly vast proportions, profound proportions.

Jannecke Øinæs 29:38

Hey, guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community. Your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love into these episodes, and my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness to do what I can do with this channel. To help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so. Thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below. And now let's go back to the episode. Can I ask? How many years back are we speaking about,

Regina Meredith 30:22

oh, gajillions, a very long time ago, in the early formation of the Earth itself, billions and billions of years ago. I mean, if you look at the Vedas, maybe trillions. But you know, time they said, is irrelevant, because it didn't pass the same. Then it was very different. Time was itself. Was different then. So we can keep trying to peg it, but we'll never fully understand the nature of time in those vast regions of the past. So this happened over a long period of time. The merging happened over a short period of time. And so as the various bodies did or didn't handle this merging, this became this brought in more of a necessity for beings from other third dimensional planets to come in and help with structure, help structure society in this new way. The idea was that the vast creativity and intelligence of the non physical part of us was going to be one, the one that would live in this world, make the decisions create. And here you would have the fun of the physical body, the experience of the physical body under the domain of this highly intelligent and creative mind. But what happened is, because of the need for physical survival, the lower mind, what we now call the lower mind, that mind of the animal gained dominance and control and has remained in that position sense

Jannecke Øinæs 31:51

you mean that ego,

Regina Meredith 31:53

no, not ego the animal mind, the animal survival mind. They don't use the word ego in the same way that most people do, it's ego is a different concept to my soul group. Ego is nothing more than the collective expression of everything you've learned, experienced and been and how you're showing up with that in this lifetime. That is the template of who you are. That's what they call the ego. So you could say, yeah, you ego wouldn't be the right word. It would be that here you have an an animal being that has lived on earth and procreated and had its way of doing things and its own soul, and now you have this other soul from this higher dimensional being that has no concern for the loss of life because they're non physical, and when it merged, it didn't understand the incredible power of the need for survival of the animal being. And so that mind that serves to they said, in trying to make a joke, they said, Well, you know that the lower mind, the one you call your conscious mind, was only there to keep you from bumping into things. It was never supposed to make decisions, and it ended up in the position of total control, and that's where we are now. So beings were taken to different there was, there was a lot of participation from other species here at the time, and these, they said at this time, in the early stages, this was not exploitation. The beings that came came to help third dimensional et species came to help structure societies around these disoriented beings, trying to just trying to integrate, trying to figure out, from their perspective, what, how you form families, relationships, societies, in a physical way. And so we had a lot of help. And a lot of the people that talk about the beings that came here look at it very negatively, and they're all thrown in the same basket. They came here to exploit and use humans. Okay, as time went on. That is true. It remains true to this day. We were a vulnerable, brand new species in the universe. And my soul group said this was a new soul development. And they still call us soul developments. They don't say just soul they always say soul development. And I said, Why? Why do you keep saying soul development? And they said, because you're not finished yet. You are still merging the two aspects of being and now waking up and remembering of the incredible abilities and power that part of your being once had. And they said, No, it will never express itself the way it did in the beginning, but it is incredibly potent, alive and waiting for you to tap back into it, to be able to create at a very high level, within a dense dimension, and even in the future human you hear the Z's talking about, that's the Holy Grail, to find love and compassion. And Grace and communality in an environment that's trying, where the beings are simply trying to survive, which does not bring out the best in any animal. They said that is the holy grail, to have this incredible physical experience that we're having while still accessing the higher aspects of being, which, of course, are connected to all so where we are as a species is we're just beginning once again. It's happened before. We were waking up in Atlantis as well. And you know, throughout our history, we wake up and something happens, kind of get knocked off and have to start over again. Hopefully that's not going to be the case this time. We're going to continue learning. And I think that's the idea, that's what everyone's watching and hoping for, that we choose that. So anyway, we are now waking up to the fact that we have much higher capacities, and some people can is can create almost at the speed of thought. You think of something, you make a plan, boom, you get a phone call. Happens the next day. So it's starting to happen that way for us, and it will be happening more and more. And this whole system, this organ system, this heart, this low, this area of the being, this part of the being which we talked about in the last interview, the heart. Is where our intelligence, that higher mind, intelligence, which is connected to all that's will start running through the heart. Then you have a different species. Now you have this, this species that's very desirable, living in this beautiful, dense, third slash fourth dimensional world, in the physical body, with all of these things that we can create, touch, feel and express through, and this incredibly connected, Grace filled intelligence collectively so that that's that's what was hoped for in the beginning. Took a little while to get there, but we're on our way.

Jannecke Øinæs 37:03

Wow, that's fascinating. I mean, gosh, I have so many questions. How does this tie into all the other stories that we that Darwin's theory and that humans haven't been here that long at all, and that we come or are developed from the apes. That was like my first question, because it seems like we're we've been here for ever. Then, when you're saying gazillion years so, and you said they look like us, so this human type, I've been here for so much longer,

Regina Meredith 37:38

much longer than we can understand and remember too, when we were, when these physical bodies, these creatures we are, were forming. It was a different density. So it was a different dimensional field. It this form was created like everything else, non physically, as a mental template that started then bringing in the magnetism of started bringing together the elements as it fell more into density. Okay, so Hu this human form existed in another dimension, initially a little bit, we would call it higher, a little bit less physical dimension, before it fully dropped into this one. So you can imagine that was when the Earth itself and all its creatures were forming. This is a very long time ago. You know, some people try to put a label on it, 13 billion years ago, but they would tell you, my soul group will tell you, there was no big bang. Doesn't work like that. It didn't work like that to begin with. So so much of what we think we know, and have been told they would dispute and say, No, there is an orderliness to creation. These things, these planets that you see in all dimensions, these were all processes of creation. They all go through a very similar process of creation, and it didn't. They're not random explosions where some, you know, particles came together and boom, you have a rock, you know, Third Rock from the Sun. So it didn't work like that.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:12

Yeah. What's a bit new to me is that there are different dimensions of Earth, because in my mind, we started out as a species on another planet, and then they came here to the third dimension and sort of merged with us. But I didn't know that there might be another level of Earth, in a way, and

Regina Meredith 39:32

I didn't either. I was thinking about it the way you were for many years, and then I finally asked. I said, Well, are you speaking of beings who came from other places in the universe? They said, No, they're right there. Earth, just like you. You are multi dimensional. Your Earth is multi dimensional.

Jannecke Øinæs 39:55

And these other beings are they now in another or they are. Are part of us, and some of the them are on another level, another Earth level,

Regina Meredith 40:06

both, both and some of them serve as our guides, because they know what the species has been through. Some of them were here playing and visiting and experimenting in early on phases. So they they they know what's happened. They know the nature of the beings, and they do serve as guides.

Jannecke Øinæs 40:26

So how is this connected, for instance, to the procession of the equinox and Atlantis and Lemuria? Because it seems like we've had high states of consciousness before, and then we decline, and now we're sort of going up again, and it seems like we might decline again if we follow the cycle of the procession of the equinox for, for instance,

Regina Meredith 40:51

yes, I mean, there is, there is one, a new I would, I wouldn't even call it nuance to that. But okay, so as we go along our trajectory of learning, and we go into these finer states of consciousness, you the earth is going through her own evolution and development into finer states of frequencies. And the only way to stay in step, within continue incarnating on Earth. And by the way, no one's required to come back here. No one's stuck. The only thing that determines where we can go after we leave this body is frequency. So if you can find another place, another planet, something else that has a similar frequency, your being can slot in there, and you can pick up and live a life somewhere else with different experiences, different opportunities for learning. No one's stuck here, and they're very clear about that, so it's just a frequency game. So if we are learning and we're starting to work with that universal solvent of love and working through the heart as our guiding light and as our higher mind, then we're changing our own frequencies. This earth is changing her frequencies. If we choose to come back and enjoy this very sensual experience of this planet, we can do that as long as our frequencies are sufficient to fit back in here. And this gets into another story that they told me, and other people have now talked about it, Dolores Cannon started running into this with some of her regresses, and other people have too since then. But it was all shocking to me back then, because I hadn't heard any of this. And that was that there was this, another earth that is also in existence. It's a slightly different dimensional field of earth, yet again, that has been created that will take people who are still learning some of the very basic lessons, because it's not serving anyone where. If Earth is progressing, if you have to keep refining and refining your way of interfacing with life and each other and the planet itself in order to stay in step with her and incarnate here, then what happens if you don't do that? What happens if you do kind of fall into a flop house situation, or whatever you still want to continue learning and incarnating and experiencing and maybe clearing up a little karma, maybe creating love. But it's not you're not. Your frequencies may not be a fit for this particular version. So they said that it was been known all along, really, since the beginning of humanity. There would come a time when some of the they call them the portal beings, which is the vast they said is the vast majority of people on Earth are portal beings, beings that came from that other dimension of Earth. And they said there would come a time when the portal being, some would start waking up, really waking up to love and what they are, what their capabilities are. And it would take others longer to do that, and that would no longer there would be a point in time where it would no longer serve the two to live side by side, because the lessons one group is learning might be, you know, how to not steal a little thunder from someone with a negative comment. You know, it's, it's fairly innocuous. It's not going to ruin anyone's life. But still, you know, it's like, it's a little lower frequency, and you want to tidy that up a bit so you might be learning that level of lesson, which is a finer level of lessons than rape and murder, and people that are still learning that rape and murder really don't serve, they haven't learned that yet, and they're just raw survival. We're not on the same page anymore, vibrationally, and the earth is going to continue refining so. So another Earth has been created over a long period of time, and people are incarnating there now. And I remember it because I thought odd at the time, they said, and then I asked for clarification. They said, people need to do their very, very best with the people that they're incarnating with, with their soul families and their families to make sure that they handle things in the best and kindest manner possible in this lifetime, in all lifetimes, particularly now, they said, because you may not be with those beings again, there may be someone you will never see as an entity again, so make sure that you leave your relationships healed and as as tidy as you can, basically as much in love as you can, because some of these long term tribal soul families will be broken now. They'll be broken up with those who need a little longer to learn they'll be going to the other version of Earth, and there's no and they're very clear, this isn't a punishment, it's the beings who are learning that murder isn't is does not serve. Don't really mix well with you. I mean, they're not going to teach you anything, really, and you're not going to teach them anything. And they said, What happens as a result of the splitting of the frequencies is that in both places, people learn faster. If you're with other like minded souls, you can refine things and learn faster and faster. You're not held down by issues and lessons that you've already learned, you've already done. They don't serve you at all. You're going to learn among with each other, where you can refine, refine, refine, same thing if you're learning as they call them, still learning the kindergarten lessons and they said, and there's nothing but time to learn. No soul is lost. Everyone just learns at their own rate. And so if you're still learning the denser lessons about, for example, rape and murder and things like that. Then you can learn faster. Among others, where you're being subjected to and subjecting each other to similar things, you learn faster. It's like, Ooh, no, I don't want to do this game anymore. And then you learn your way out of that game, and you move on to another frequency range in another place, including this place so they said there's no punishment in it. It's just putting more like frequency souls together for the efficiency of learning together. They don't have a lot of judgment around anything. And it's just like the Z's said, this is by no means the most violent planet in the universe. There are far more violent planets than Earth. Oh, gosh, far more corrupt governments than on Earth. They say, take your worst dictatorship. This is a disease now, take your worst dictatorship times at times two or three. That's what some what governance is like on some other planet. So, but we're somewhere in the middle, and we're learning. And that's what my group so group says we're just learning. So if it takes longer to learn, it takes longer, then you learn it and you move on out, move on up, whatever. You just go on to something else that serves you better. So that is their perspective on it, and that we the tour scenario is fully operational. Has been for quite some time,

Jannecke Øinæs 48:23

and these beings leaving to incarnate on another planet. When are we speaking about? Is it in our lifetime that all these lower frequency people will they've when they will die, they will incarnate another place, and that's why Earth will

Regina Meredith 48:42

already happen. It's been happening for a while. It's already happening. That's why they said that. If time I thought it was kind of cryptic when they said, because they were talking to someone else, someone else was having a channeling and I was listening, they said, No, just make sure that things because their mother was ending her life, coming toward the end of her life or something, and said, just make sure to make things as beautiful as you can now. And it was a different way they said it. So afterwards, I said, What were you referring to? And they said, well, they will not be seeing one another again, that relationship is complete,

Jannecke Øinæs 49:17

but neither as souls, either

Regina Meredith 49:22

no as souls, they're going on to different experiences. Now, they won't be incarnating back together, not anytime soon, certainly by the time one goes on that their soul contracts were ended, that their soul familiarity tribe was now going to split.

Jannecke Øinæs 49:40

That makes sense. And still, on Earth right now, it seems like there is such a division and such a polarity between levels of consciousness. I mean, we're seeing it now more than ever, in a way, because it's more visible. So could you speak a bit to that?

Unknown Speaker 49:57

I asked them about. That. And they said, what you will see in the future? I said, So, what does it look like in the future? Because we can feel this right, and sometimes, I mean, I have this experience myself. You can go into a place or a certain group of people and you're invisible. I mean, you might as well not even be in the room or exist you're in. That's because your frequencies aren't a match. And somewhere else, you go into the room, and it's like people are welcoming you with open arms, like you're here, you know, because you're a match. So we're already experiencing that. And they said that. I said, So what's it look like? What's the future look like? And they said, well, it's not that different. You don't become just a shimmering scent of a person. You're not going to become non physical, but you are as the human species. They said, but what's going to happen is you will find it's more it's simply more gentle and more like minded. So we're already moving in that direction where you'll have a chance to learn finer lessons together and have finer experiences together. There won't be as much resistance, there won't be as much density to move through on a number of levels. So no, they said it's it's just a refinement process. The Earth herself is refining. We're going to refine ourselves along with her, or we go somewhere else. If we can't do that, we go somewhere else. And that is true for all animal species. So I I've wondered if the disappearance of certain animal species isn't also, not just through whatever toxins we might be, you know, spitting out into the water, spraying onto the lands, but also the sudden disappearance, more that they're moving out of this density and into another one. And I do think that's what's happening to some of the species.

Jannecke Øinæs 52:04

Will this happen in our lifetime, that we will experience the new future human that you speak about in your book?

Regina Meredith 52:11

It's already starting, and that has to do with the desire and will of the people. For example, when we talked about this last time, the merging of intelligence with the heart. And I gave that little, tiny experiment, you know, that little meditation that just starting to do, choosing to do that one thing alone, it would forget the rest of it. Choosing to do that one thing alone is going to speed up the trajectory of our own soul development on Earth, because we are choosing to operational and be operationally, start functioning as we will in the future. So it's up to us. We can embrace it, or we can say, oh, that's kind of cool. I'll wait till I incarnate again, see what's happening and maybe do it. Then you can do that too. You do it the way you want. But the point is, a lot of people, I'm hearing from a lot of people who've read the book, and that part is really striking people deeply. Why Why not start now? Why not become the future human now? And so, in many ways, there's nothing we can do to fully grok and comprehend the wave of consciousness moving through the universe, moving through the cosmos, and through, moving through and emanating from our our planet, and through our own multi dimensional bodies and more, the greater complex mind, the dimensions of mind that's coming, that's happening, whether we like it or not, and many people are quite disturbed by it and reacting badly, because there means letting go of the familiar. And we're watching what's happening globally and politically by those who do not want their clinging, their digging to claw, clawing to hold on to the past, familiar old systems and ways of thinking that just isn't going to work. So for those who are saying, Okay, I'm ready, let go. Let life show itself to me. Let's become creative. Let's go into the heart and create from there, we're already we are creating the future human. That's our choice.

Jannecke Øinæs 54:13

And will AI be of a support, or the opposite? Both? Both, yeah, probably depends on how we use it,

Regina Meredith 54:24

how we choose to use it. It's going to be foisted upon us both ways. It already is. It's already being foisted upon us, and we can choose to engage with it or not. Those are our choices. And it's here to stay. They were very clear. The disease are very clear on that it's here to stay. It's part of many, many, many planetary systems. AI's been around forever. It's been here before too in Atlantean time. So it's here again, and now we can choose to maybe use it a little more wisely, a little more discerningly, and the differentiating factor, it does not have senses. US, and it does not have a heart that it can merge its intelligence with it, can try to mimic it, but it doesn't have it. And our defining feature, even though it can be made to look like us, behave like us. People can, you know, mate with them, whatever they want to do, all that's going to be possible. Well, I don't mean in the truest sense of the word, but you know what I mean? So, you know, people can treat them as though they're their partners and so forth, but in the end, they don't have this heart. They don't have this exquisite we can't comprehend the delicacy and fineness of the system that was created that is us, the way our brain, our multi dimensional mind, our electrical systems, the way our organs everything intelligence of ourselves, the way everything works perfectly together. It will never have that. And so the Z's were very clear. What other species are watching is now that we're waking up, now we start merging with the heart, our intelligence, with the heart as we know it's a finer way of thinking and being AI cannot compete with that if we don't give it our power. That is the defining factor. And other beings want to be able to export this thing that's been created, this weird experiment, Portal human they want to be able to export this to other planets. They're watching for their own survival, to become more physical in their area, for many different reasons, many different species are watching what's happening with humanity. We're quite the we're the we're the special show, shall we say, right now, we're quite a circus. We're the circus. And so to have, I think it's so important to have respect for the journey we've been through. And every now and then, you know, people will think, God, why is it just so hard to create and get people on board and get things done? Part of that is that yearning from a distant, distant, distant memory of what it was like when we could do that, when that aspect, that part of us, could do that, and we want to experience that again, and we will be the more we start allowing the multi dimensional mind to operate very natural with this higher consciousness and merge through the the senses and the organs, particularly the heart of the body, we will start creating at faster speeds. We're already seeing it. Everyone's saying, oh my god, time is speeding up, and many people are saying, Oh, I barely have to think it, and it happens. Yeah, that's where we're headed,

Jannecke Øinæs 57:47

yeah, but it does? It have to be worse before it get gets better?

Regina Meredith 57:53

Well, it appears so, yeah, we don't. We don't learn without pressure. Sadly, yeah, but it's not you know, from everything I understand and from my own instincts of it, it's not going to take a long time. You depending on how old you are, if you're quite old, you won't see it in your lifetime. Maybe I'll see it in my lifetime. You'll see it in your lifetime. Yes, we have to trip through this, because once and for all, we have been kept from ourselves. We have been kept from our intelligence and our creativity by some of the exploitive forces that marauded through here, and they're still there, hiding behind people with faces and power. They're still hiding. They're still trying to keep control of us, keep us consuming, keep us from asking questions, keep us from demanding change, and more so creating change from the bottom up. They don't want to see that happen. We all know this. We can all feel it. We can watch it in the daily headlines, so we know that's playing out. We don't have to buy into it to whatever degree we can choose, sovereignty of choice, of how we're going to use our energy, of who we're going to collaborate with, who we're going to spend our time with, what we're going to allow our minds to engage with, and all that that's up to us. But it had to get pretty bad for us to say, Holy cow, I didn't think it could get this bad. This is insane, before we find before a lot of people can come out from the malaise that has been foisted upon us to take any kind of action. And myself included, I think I can't believe what's playing playing out. It's like, I feel like everyone else you it's happening. Everything's happening so fast and there's so much insanity, it's like, what can I do? And so I've started trying to calm myself down and say, Well, okay, this doesn't sound like much, but you could, every single day, make five phone calls to key agencies, people, politicians, just in the world of politics alone. And. Um, voice your point of view. Just keep it up every day. Make a little practice of that, just on the ground stuff and beyond that, start really seeing where love is, wherever there's love. Instead of seeking love, trying to get love, trying to extract love from others, to start really going into the heart and seeing where love already is, and to start going where the love is, where there's true resonance between you and others, and really deepening and strengthening those relationships, because that's what's going to take us forward, is those relationships, rather than, you know, like selfies and trying to be loved by everybody, that's a false kind of love. That's false. Where is real love in your life, your heart knows where real love is. It might be with your aunt and uncle, you know, might be with your kids and your husband. It might be with your friends, you know, your chosen soul family. But to really drill down into the feelings of where love is, and then see what you can not only find by way of strength, but also create together. And unfortunately, we're we've become an we've moved into an incredibly vain period of time where everybody's talking and no one's listening, where everyone wants to be seen but they don't want to see the other. No, we have to reverse that. That's when you go where love is, that it all starts coming down and coming together.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:01:28

I just wanted to mention for the audience that when you refer to the z's, that is the energy, or the beings that Lee Harris is channeling in the book you're an author of. And I assume, when you speak about those who are resisting this, that that is the the elites, that some it's some kind of force or beings that are sort of working against the future,

Regina Meredith 1:01:55

yep, yep, yep. I don't think I need to explain that. All you have to do is open up your news app. It's everywhere, and these are beings who have gained in really the more meaningless ways. They have gained from these associations. Maybe they have power, maybe they have money, maybe they feel they have control over others. That's it's false power. But they have gained this through associations with others like them, and they're learning the hard way, they'll end up learning the hard way. This, the new consciousness coming in isn't going to support them for much longer. The blowback is already starting. You know, in the US, everything going on, everything's tangled up in court. Lawsuits on everything everyday, new lawsuits everywhere. With every executive order, we're just, I've never seen anything like it.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:02:47

We neither here over here.

Regina Meredith 1:02:51

Yeah, it's truly extraordinary. The pace of which things are moving, but the blowback is moving as fast the response, right? And that's important, that that's that's what it's about, is we have to become outraged before we actually get off our Duffs. As humans, that's just how we are. A lot of people have to get sick before they say, Oh, geez. I mean, I knew I shouldn't have been doing that all along. You know that's how we learn. We tend to learn through pain. Humans tend to learn through pain. And my guides said that one day, kind of wistfully, saying, it's a shame, but the human species is still at a level where they tend to learn through pain.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:03:28

Yeah, I've asked many guests about that, can we learn through love and bliss as well? And they're like, yeah, it is possible to and maybe that's also for the future. I don't know if you have any more minutes here. I was just curious about that Atlantean experience. You jumping into another business? If you could just

Regina Meredith 1:03:50

Oh, yes, okay. So I was a young girl, and I was in under the tutelage of an Atlantean master, and one of the experiments we used to do was you had to be able to take your consciousness and project it in. And many people were able to, because they were closer to the days, which shall we say, of when they were portal beings. You had to be able to transfer your consciousness into an inanimate object and and I remember doing it and feeling, having the experience of it. And I remember I transferred my consciousness into an urn and an empty urn, and I felt so trapped and cold, and it was just the most awful. I said, How long? Basically, how long do we have to do this for? This is awful. It's torture, but we could do that. As kids, we were taught how to do that. We could leave the body at will, transfer it, merge and so forth. So that was one of the experiments. And then in Lemuria, which I was referring to, I was a young boy, and I remember going out to a place what was into. Resting is I didn't see fully in color yet. Now I say came on. Our ability to see color came on as we developed. So it was a very early stage of humanity, and I was in a what appeared to be a young male's body, and I did my favorite thing, and I sat down in some reeds. Everything was kind of beige, the water was more kind of purplish. I couldn't see fully blue yet. And there were these very large birds, like condors, but maybe even larger. They were huge. I was a young male, and I went to a sandy reedy place. There were reeds and there was sand. And I sat my body down next to a stump of a tree, and I got out of my body and climbed into the body of projecting myself into the body of this very large bird, like huge, like a condor or larger. And they had an agreement with us. We would Joy Ride in them, and they didn't like to. They didn't fly for no reason. They only flew for prey. And so they were kind enough to oblige us when we did this. So you could tell when you were up there flying. I could feel everything the bird felt, and you could look and see when another bird was occupied with a human that had projected themselves in it's almost like, you know, pilots do, where you do this, you know, to one another in the air, and that's what we did. And so they were kind we could get a little joy ride, have a little different point of view, and then sit down and climb back out and get back into our body, because it was just safely sitting there alone by the stump. So that's what we did for kicks back then we joyrided. We Joy rode in birds.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:39

Sounds amazing. Thank you so much, Regina for sharing the story. I think we have a lot to reflect about

Regina Meredith 1:06:51

only take I always say to everyone, only take on what feels true to you. There are many different cultures. There are many different origin stories, and they don't have to conflict with each other, but sometimes they do, or they may, in your perception, they may. So don't take on what's not for you. This is the story that I resonated with over the years, and I still do, but that doesn't mean everyone else does, so I just want to put that out there. Don't buy what's not for you

Jannecke Øinæs 1:07:22

important. I resonate with that. All right. Regina, what is self love to you? I ask all my guests that question

Regina Meredith 1:07:32

self love is to be kind to yourself, to understand that you're a being who is doing their very best, and to cut yourself slack. No judge. To love yourself is to not judge yourself. To just have a self acceptance and a little bit of a sense of humor. When you screw up, you screw up, it's like, Hey, we're human. I'm going to screw up. And then it's okay. Then you go on and you and your soul and your higher mind, you all move on together with grace. So to me, it's self acceptance, is self love,

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:05

and what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Regina Meredith 1:08:08

Well, for me as a soul, it's to go through and to observe and to experience and to learn and to enjoy, to enjoy your incarnations there. That's a big part that we we say, Oh no, I'm here to learn. Yeah, but this is a beautiful place. We're also here. This was put here for pleasure. This is stunningly beautiful to enjoy your life and to learn along the way everything we can. It's really about coming into that period of that state of grace and love with ideally, all things. And you know that's we have our work cut out for us still, but we can do it. We're doing it little bit by little bit

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:48

lovely. And how can people find you if they want to connect and learn more from you?

Regina Meredith 1:08:52

Well, my commentaries are on my site, Reginameredith.com and I have a book club and and I have some interviews. Occasionally I'll interview someone as well. I used to do a lot of that, but my primary place for interviews of others is on Gaia. So just go to gaia.com and my show is open minds. So yeah, Gaia and Reginameredith.com

Jannecke Øinæs 1:09:12

lovely. Thank you so much for coming back to the show. I always ..

Regina Meredith 1:09:16

thank you for having me back on Jannecke. It was wonderful to be with you.