Finding Inner Liberation Beyond Fear! With Kyle Cease

Kyle Cease 0:00

It's ironic to me, because people call their world that's really delusional the real world. People come to my events and they go, that's great, Kyle, but when we're done with these events, what happens when I go back to the real world? And the real world to you is when you sit on the couch and worry about anything that could happen, that isn't happening, that's actually fantasy. So there is a whole world of us using spirituality, ironically, to avoid connecting to our inner child. Our job now is to also hear what's in here, because the world, I believe, more and more, mirrors you. That's the most amazing way to not waste your life, is hear what's inside you don't have to express everything. Like everyone's like, getting these guided things, and then they're just posting it on Instagram all the time, and it's like God's going "No, I'm talking to you". I believe 2025, is it's almost like just light is showing up so bright that that both inside and outside, everything that's not true is coming to light.

Jannecke Øinæs 0:58

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Kyle Cease 1:15

Thank you so much for having me. I'm honored to be with you.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:19

I'm really honored to have you here today. I've been following your videos on YouTube and a bit of your work. And you are a former actor, a former comedian. Today you are a transformational teacher, transforming people's lives all over the globe. You have a huge following, and you're really helping people, empowering them and let go of fear and the full self, and we're going to speak about that. And you're also a best selling author of the illusion of money, which I'm very excited to go into. So what I'm curious at first is actually your story, because being a musical theater artist myself, and all of a sudden finding myself doing spiritual stuff or speaking to spiritual teachers, like, how did I get here? And being an artist is so close to the heart, right? And you have been this talented guy, been hugely successful, and now you're speaking about the soul and the heart. And I'd love to hear your story. I know there was a stage fright there that opened the awakening. So would you like to share your story?

Kyle Cease 2:30

Sure, let's see. How do I do this? So I I actually started stand up comedy at 12 years old. I was working clubs and and, you know, like performing at the school assemblies and doing stand up and and TV stuff in the local area a lot at 12, and I've always had kind of this given ambition that anything can happen. You can do anything. When I was 15, I remember just thinking, How do comics make better money than this. I was 15, and I was already asking higher questions. And I asked another comedian, they said, Well, one way is corporate parties. Like comedians do a lot of corporate parties, and I just remember him saying, you know, you're probably too young to do that. And I just remember thinking, Okay, how do I do corporate parties? And I thought, Where do the companies meet up? And I found out about this thing called the Chamber of Commerce, and that's like where businesses meet. And I asked to get the mailing labels for all the businesses, and I made a flyer that said, Are you having a corporate party looking for entertainment? Paul Kyle cease, and I sent it out to 500 people, and 100 of them suddenly hired me. I was at 15 working for Sears, Nintendo, Microsoft, Lexus, Toyota. I mean, it was just crazy. And I was suddenly speaking everywhere. And then 1617, 18, I was becoming a headlining comedian. And I lived in Seattle at the time, and had a really amazing career start. I did the movies 10 Things I Hate About You. I flew to LA. Did another movie called Not Another Teen movie. Started doing a lot of colleges and comedy clubs. I headlined comedy clubs all over the country. I did 500 colleges as a stand up comic. And it was really interesting, because it was so second nature for me to become a comedian that I believe I learned how to be a comedian before I learned how to be a person like in other words, I only know life as a comedian at this point because I started so young and that I only know myself as an entertainer. And more and more as I kept doing this, it's almost like life wanted to deepen my connection to myself by sabotaging parts of my career, and at the height of my career as a headlining comic, when I was probably like 27 probably like, 2728 one day I was on stage, and I just started thinking to myself, how do, like, what? What would happen if you fainted? That's what, that's what I started thinking. And right when I thought that, I got dizzy. So on the outside, I'm performing, and I'm having a really amazing set, and I'm having. A completely different life inside, like, if you're watching me, I'm just killing and I'm having a great but I'm just so bored because I was doing this each night, and I wasn't creating any new content. And I believe that if you're not completely creating, your mind will start creatively sabotaging you. And so my mind started going, what if you think about it enough, if you could make yourself faint. Then I got dizzy, then I almost passed out, and all of a sudden I had my first stage fright anxiety, after, at this point, 15 years of being a comic. And while I was at the height of this stage fright, it started escalating from I'm gonna faint when I'm on stage to I'm just gonna faint everywhere. And then Comedy Central offered me the TV channel my first Comedy Central appearance. I thought, what if I faint on that? And then this became the worst thing. And then I thought, if I faint on that, it'll ruin my career, and then I won't be worth anything. And this is a good idea of a role. Like what I am is a comedian, versus I am the now, or I am this person, I am this man and but at the time, I thought, if I'm not a comedian, and it doesn't work anymore, there's no reason I should live like, there's no reason I should exist like I'm only this. And, you know, you were saying you wanted to talk about roles. You know, we all have a role like, I'm this relationship, I'm this career, I'm this whatever. I'm this parent, right? And then when these things either fall apart or change, the kid moves away, or you go through a divorce, or whatever, you can really trick yourself into that you're nothing, that you're not worth anything, because you're that. And I believe that's life setting you up to find what you are. In other words, the fall apart of my my belief that I'm a comic was the beginning of me meeting myself right like I could have just not had this anxiety attack and stayed a successful comedian my whole life, maybe, but never known myself. And I think this is a reason why people that are successful and people everywhere just get more into drugs, depressed, suicidal, and I really believe that whenever you feel depressed or suicidal, it's never you that wants to die. It's a pattern that wants to die. It's an old story. It's a what I used to be. It's a, you know, it's trying to die. And more and more as I do this inner work, I believe our job is to let it and when I was starting this anxiety attack, the first thing I went through, which is not at all where I am now, but the first thing I went through was going through kind of a motivational Tony Robbins phase of getting Tony Robbins books and learning how to change my thinking. So the first thing I went through was, okay, instead of worrying about feigning on stage, I started picturing, how do I have the number one Comedy Central special, and rewiring my mind and spending an hour a day focused on its number one. Cut to six months later, it was number one. So this built the achiever stage right, which is, again, not where I am, but a great way to a great stage to go through is when things are falling apart. You can go through a keep them together and make them happen and all the stuff. So I started having number one Comedy Central special. I started touring and having more major success. And that move from kind of moving from a stage one of just being in reaction and victim to make it happen me the next stage after that happened when I had to release control of what people think about me, because as I became more successful, I wanted aspiring comedians to know they can be successful too. So I started like creating, like classes and you can make it happen, and motivational things. And I forgot that comedians are all somewhere into it and somewhere very skeptical. That's what they do for a living. And my peers started attacking me and saying, Kyle's this positive thinking weirdo, and stay away from him, and he must be scamming people and all this stuff to teach comedy and even present you can teach comedy, and this is where I had to let go of what people think about me, because some comics were saying stuff, and it was kind of going viral. And this was the beginning of the next level of my change. I was in a hotel room. Was about to tour, but a comic attacked me online, and I just spent I decided I'm going to spend six days in this hotel room and do nothing, and I just sat there. And the first four days, I watched as my mind was like, we'll prove it with this, or I'll have another number one special, or whatever. And on day four, I was sitting in the hotel room, and I just saw as my mind was going here and saving its life while I was actually safe, like I'm just sitting on a bed, and my mind is just like, we'll do this, we'll do this. And I that was the moment I saw the insanity of that's not me, like my mind is saving me while I'm fine, and my mind is coming up with a solution and I'm fine, and my mind is like fighting and making things happen and motivated while nothing's wrong. And I was just sitting on the bed and I watched this, and my. Mine did this, and I just realized that's not me. I'm just the dude on the bed, and all of a sudden, all of my history, all of my motivation, all of my problems, all of my past, all of my separation collapsed, and I just felt this freedom that I had never felt before, like everything that I was identified as was gone, everything involving time was gone. There was no past and future. I was just in a freedom and a bliss that I can't ever unsee again, that I just stared at the wall for five hours and none of my problems were real. Nothing existed, nothing. Everything was just liberation. And that was the beginning of the next stage, which was the beginning of a releasing control stage. And trust me, there was still more to release as time went on, but I started really letting go of control, and that caused me to let go of making anything happen, and just letting go of what everything is supposed to fall apart is. And a thing that I've started, I started letting go of things with a friend of mine, Diego, and I was letting go of should I keep my Facebook? And he said, one thing I know is that you can only measure what you will lose and you can't ever see what you'll gain. And that's when I started this, like letting go phase of my life, because whenever you let go of something, the only reason you're sad or stressed is your mind. Can only measure what you will lose, it can't see what you'll gain. So you can see that the past relationship, the past career, the past house, but you can't see what you're making room for. So letting go started becoming a really exciting thing. And ironically, even though I had a very successful career as a stand up comic, when I let go of I decided to let go of stand up comedy. And I was just like, there's more here, but I don't know what it is. So at the height of my career, I let go of stand up comedy, and for a year, I started just going inward more. And at one point, Michael Beckwith announced that agape, the spiritual speaker, Michael Beckwith, was having a talent show. I went and spoke at it and did stand up, and all of a sudden the whole audience was full of producers and other speakers that wanted me on their stages. And also, when I let go of comedy, I thought, what if you combine comedy and transformation? And so I started doing colleges as a lecture speaker, combining the two and made 10 times more money. Was more successful was in a field now that was my own field, like comedy and transformation, like, there's not a lot of competition here, and it's not something you can fake. And all of a sudden I was doing much bigger theaters and headlining, you know, other speakers events, and working with Eckhart, Tolle and Jim Carrey and all of these amazing legends and getting much more offers and different things. And it's interesting, because our events evolving out loud, are two day long events, sometimes three. And I truly don't know one word that I'm going to say, and we filled, you know, at one point, 3400 seat theaters, 1400 seat theaters, enormous rooms. And these people show up. And I would just start and and the release of the character, the one that's a comedian, the one that has to do it right in the release of that, it's almost like now it's just source speaking through me, 24/7, and and so there's a higher that's always speaking that I'm more and more connected to, and the events that I do are called evolving out loud. Because Have you ever given someone advice, and then you learn from the advice that you gave? Right? Like, it's a weird thing, like, sometimes you'll give someone advice, and it's not even to a question they're asking. They could be like, I have a stomach ache. And you go, I think you should break up with her. And then you start saying, maybe I'm giving me this advice. And you start to realize there's two of me. There's the one who gives the advice, and then there's the one that learns from it. If you've ever gotten excited about advice you gave someone else, then you realize there's a you that's guided, that's giving that advice, and then an egoic you that has to apply and learn what you just realized. And so evolving out loud is really me teaching me like everything that's about to come through today will probably be overall, the highest that I've never even heard too. And so there's a me that learns from what I'm doing. And I say this because most of us don't realize there's a guidance system that is available, 24/7, and we ignore it, and we ask other people with their own egos advice, and a lot of people will give you advice out of their fear and not you know what I mean, you're often getting permission to not follow your heart when you ask others. And more and more, I just realized I have a I know what to do higher that's working through. And so I spent 2012, to around 2020, in that frequency of doing the higher vibration things and letting go of a lot of things that didn't align. And. And I feel like now, in the last five years, I've been working through, you know, letting go of high and low and getting here. I weirdly believe that 2020 was the beginning of us letting go of our optimism in order to get to the root pain that's under it right. Like 2020 was a very big pattern change for the world, and so I believe more and more that that's to highlight the traumas that are inside of our body, the release of our negative stuff, the release of our darkness. A lot of us are trying to make things happen out of a so that I'm not unworthy, so that I'm not unloved, right? You don't want to have that be your motivation, because it's all fear. So I believe that this time is about becoming present for the energy in the body that feels unloved, unseen, abused from childhood, irrelevant. These are the things that are coming to light in this time. And more and more, I believe that we're just the now, that's all you are. Is this space that's right here. There's nothing else, and the only thing that is in the past and future is actually a trauma response, trying to hide the trauma, right? So it's in the past, it's in the future, trying to escape with this solution. If I make a million dollars, if I get a person to like me, then I won't be lonely. If I make a million dollars, then I'll finally be enough to my dad. So these traumas under are trying to come to light now, and that's why motivation in this time isn't working right. Like making things a lot of people are like, I'll do this. I'll start this business. And then it doesn't work. Two days later, they're like, I don't because the light is too big, that it's just that it's showing that the lie that is here and it wants that to come out, versus you motivating yourself to keep it covered up. I don't know if that made sense, but

Jannecke Øinæs 16:56

Made so much sense. Oh my gosh, there were so many gold nuggets there, and I wanted to ask about them all. So how to where to focus? I'm fascinated by you letting go of all these things. I've also let go a lot of things in my life, like the musical theater. I had a similar situation where I had to give up something I loved, but it didn't make sense anymore. I lost my voice when I was 20 years old. As a musical theater artist was at the peak in Oslo in Norway, and I had this great role, and I had to give it up, and then I fell into a depression. And at the time, I thought also that that was the end, and you've had the similar feeling that Who am I without this career, and I was a child star also, so that was my identity, and it took me a long time to get out of that. Now, do you believe, and I'm very grateful for it now, but do you believe we need to fall down so far or hit the wall in order to wake up. Or can we wake up through a beautiful experiences?

Kyle Cease 18:07

Yeah, well, I think both can happen. I think that, you know, a lot of times we think we want these things that we want, but life is going I have better for you, and so I won't you want. You know, the higher I go, I'm like, I want what God wants for me. So the more I do that, the more things don't have to fall apart as violently because I'm following what will be the inevitable truth anyway. But sometimes we're like, No, I want to make this thing happen and and the universe is like, I'm telling you, that's not your highest that's your that's your. Don't yell at me dad when I was five, right? Like a lot of our motivation for a lot of things is because I don't want to feel the trauma I felt as a child again. So we're going, this is the answer. But more and more, it just doesn't work. But I do also think that our low times are right on schedule and perfect, you know, like and that helps them alchemize, because a lot of us, even in the spiritual world, will have a low and then we'll try to get to a breakthrough, as if the breakthrough is better than the low, right? And so we're at still escaping that this is wrong, and my solution is right, which, which is an orchestration of a breakthrough, that's just an escape from pain, which is an egoic construct, and that's why you never can orchestrate your own breakthrough. It'll always happen when you're not planning it and you weren't expecting it, right? So the other day, I had a really funny moment happen, where my fiance, Amber and I, and our my daughter, Vivi, who's seven, we were going to go on a hike, and we went into this parking lot, and it was a weird parking lot because there's not like a beginning that you can wait for the next open slot. You just have to loop around. And a lot of new cars were coming in later, and this really was annoying, because we were there first, but we're all circling, so the car that comes in way later, and. Might get a spot that comes out. Does this make sense? And so we were just on, like 20 minutes, of us being first, but other cars taking every spot. And I said to Amber and my daughter, I go, let's make something amazing here. Let's, let's try something. So I pulled up to the side. Amber said, pull up to this one area and just wait. And I just did. And I said, in front of Vivi, Dear God, please give us a spot we would we surrender to you. And I mean, seconds later, a couple comes out of nowhere and is the next one to go to this perfect spot for us. And we just said, Are you guys leaving? And they said, Yes. And Vivi was in shock. My daughter was just like, we just said to the universe, like we want this. And then it happened, but then I went on a walk. After that, we went on a walk, and I heard the universe tell me, just so, you know, I also orchestrated the 20 minutes before that, it said, because you would never have asked me, like it said you would have never asked me, and you would have never known. So it goes, just so you know your problems are also God, let just so you know your lows, just so you know your off times, just so you know your fall apart. We're all right. And I can think of so many insanely painful times that I've been through, and then you think, Oh, that was bad. And it's like, nope. Had that not happened, I wouldn't have my daughter. Had that not happened, I wouldn't be with Amber. Had that not happened, I wouldn't have rewritten my career into something that is so much more me, like everything was right? So it's a weird thing, because it's like both like, it's like, are the lows, right? You know, yes, but the more you are following what the true self is the more you don't have to go through those lows. And I believe that more and more I believe this is kind of a weird thing to think, but everything in your body that's false has to come to light at one point. So that could include like, let me give you a great example. As a child, there were a few times my dad spanked me, but I believe he spanked me like with his life, like it was a bit it was really dangerous for me. It was not safe. Also in stand up comedy, I noticed whenever I watched stand up comedy, my dad laughed, and I felt connected to him. So I became a comic, and I felt like it was my childhood calling. But now I look at it and go, What if that was me just trying to not get hit? Like, was it my calling, or was it me actually, without knowing it, trying to not get hit and, like, entertaining my dad and staying connected to him. So for, you know, 20 years, I got to be a comedian, and was very good at it. But what if the reason I was good, as it edit, is under this without me knowing it, is an unconscious energy that says, I'll be beaten if I don't perform well without me knowing it, and when, when stand up comedy was was falling apart with the stage fright. Unconsciously, the pattern was freaking out and suicidal, because it might have been a five year old me scared that I'm about to get hit. Does this make sense? Like and so that I'm a stand up comedy is inevitably not the truth, so it has to leave right, that I'm a stand up comic. I called it that I'm a stand up comedy. That's how long it's been. But that that these things are trying to leave so I believe now what we don't understand is your body is full of a bunch of lies, like, I'm a people pleaser. Maybe you just became it to not get shamed by your mom in 1978 Right? That I'm that I'm a over the line giver that I'm constantly I never tell my voice. These are all lies that you might have lived your whole life, but they still might not be your essence. They might have literally been little ways that you are trying to not get yelled at, shamed, abandoned, hit again, right? And so right now the universe is pulling these things apart, and one of the ways you know they're not true is if they're fear, be all fear, in my opinion, is not true. It still needs to be seen and heard. But if I have a pattern come up that says I'm scared nobody will love me, imagine if I cater to that by trying to get everyone to like me. That's insane. That's how the ego works. But in what we need to do is see that that's a lie and get really present for the one who's scared that it's not loved. So for the last five years, I've helped clients say to their patterns things that you would think would be the opposite, like, if the pattern says I'm scared, I'll be yelled at. I'm not enough. I'll have a client say to the pattern, you're allowed to be not enough in my body. You're allowed to feel unlovable in my body. You're allowed to feel abandoned in my body. Now we're taking the deepest fears and letting them be allowed and they dissolve. So I believe that everything we're worried about has to be removed from the body, and it can happen in one of two. Ways. One, you get inward, you meditate, and you see the lie of the pattern, and you alchemize it, or you avoid the pattern egoically and do a bunch of addictive things, and life will make your biggest fear actually happen. Because if it happens, you'll still let go of it, right? If you if you have a deep fear of divorcing, and then you're divorced. Now you're done worrying about that happening because it happened. So life is going to take everything that's not true in this time and make it come to light. So you can either alchemize by facing it internally. And I help people to experience and feel through their biggest fear actually happening, right? Like they have to be present for my kid could go missing, or my husband won't like me, or whatever. And then the inside version of that is they cry it out, and then they don't have the fear anymore. And then you'll be shocked at how much the outside world mirrors that you've healed the inside world, right? When you Does that make sense? Like,

Jannecke Øinæs 26:01

yeah, that's a huge work. I'm just thinking about all my fears right now. It's not just, you know, being left and not being loved. It's is that scary man in the darkness, you know, being attacked or horrible things like that is intense. So so you we're supposed to feel all those fears,

Kyle Cease 26:23

yes, so here's a great example. There's a recent YouTube video that I just posted. Okay, it's, it's on my YouTube channel. It's on the thumbnail. It says this trauma therapist. Because I was, I was working with a trauma therapist, a woman named Jill, who was incredible. She's a therapist, and I and she was working. She had me work on her, and the first thing she did was talk about catastrophic thinking. She has the catastrophic thinking is that we'll have world war three. So I said, so there's a world war three in your body. There's also a world outside of you, but she has in her body, uh, Russia, Ukraine, conflict, or whatever, you know, Middle East kind of conflict, whatever it is that could happen, right? So I had her say, you know, we're allowed to go to world war three, and you can watch her actually feel World War Three happen, and even feel emotions and cry it out. But as we went deeper, it turns out that when she was a child, she was sexually abused, and when she was sexually abused, it was so scary for her that she came up with a protector. And the trauma goes, we don't want to feel this again, so the protector goes, I'm going to protect you from the world. That's because a kid doesn't understand this was a moment that just was a crappy relative doing something wrong, and it's this person's fault, not yours, and she hears, you know, a child hears, I got to make sure this doesn't happen again. This is because I'm not enough. This is because I'm worthless. I This is because I'm always unsafe, and so her protector kicks in. Her protector, so that it doesn't die, has to create a world that's dangerous, right? In other words, if you have a inner protector, it has no job if the world's safe. So your protector will overlook that the moment is safe, that there's peace in the room, that everything might be okay. It'll lose its job. It has to find danger. So we realized her protector creates the belief of world war three as a disassociation to stop itself from finally facing that she was sexually assaulted as a child and being with the inner child after she felt through the fear of world war three, we got to actually be there for the inner child that was sexually abused by her grandfather when she was a kid. When she did, she was present for what that girl felt. And it she felt through it, and it left after she cried that out. I said, now how do you feel about World War Three? And she lost the charge. She wasn't scared of it anymore, and we only can do it with allowing now you cannot control anything in this time anymore. It's almost like life is removing our controllers. And a reason a lot of people are freaking out is because it's it's removing their egoic self. And people think they are the egoic self, so they're holding on to it, and like, life is trying to go, get this out of you now. And so you're going, No, no, I'm going to make the career happen. And it's like, no, that's just covering this up. So I'm going to get this out of you. And you'll go, no, no, I'm going to be I'm going to just drink and not focus on this. And then you'll notice the addictions aren't even working anymore, because the light is so bright that everything's just still a distraction from this thing that you can't help but see So inside of all of us is our deepest fear, and it's just coming to light whether we want it or not, if you don't know what's going on this time is going to be really hard if you do like you're doing this kind of work, watching stuff like this, and meditating and allowing this is going to be amazing, because it's like the universe is going to remove your fears from you. It's going to remove your addictions from you. It's going to remove your old self. It's going to remove your baggage. You just have to let it. It's like forcing the surgery on you. But if you're not lying down on the table and allowing it, you. This is going to be hell, right? But it's heaven if you allow so. So this is a real exercise in allowing everything you're scared of to get to what the root fear is, so that can be removed, and then you're free.

Jannecke Øinæs 30:14

Hey, guys, I want to jump in here to give my thanks for being part of the Wisdom From North community, your support and engagement means the world to us. We put so much passion, so much love, into these episodes, and my intention is really to be part of this great shift of consciousness, to do what I can do with this channel, to help people expand their consciousness, love themselves more, follow their purpose and shine their light. So if you haven't yet subscribed, I would love for you to do so thank you so much. You'll find the link somewhere here below. And now let's go back to the episode. Wow. Yeah, I've come to a place where I am sort of not embracing, but I've accepted, in a way, that the world is like it is because I used to have a lot of resistance, like I didn't want to be in this world. I thought it was so horrible. Like I was thinking, how can I be in a world where children are abused and people are killed just for power and different opinions, like I can't be in this world, but then I came to a place where I could accept it, and that's where spirituality came in. For me, it started to make sense that this is not the truth of who we are. We're playing these characters, and we are so much bigger. We are so much more, and there is a deeper reason for it. I just cannot see it from the perspective and that when I came to that, that soothed me, and I was able to okay, I'm in it, and I've chosen it for a reason, like I've chosen to be here, so I'm going to be here and do my best, like do my best to share light and transformation in the world. That's what I can do to peace with that. I wanted to jump into letting go of attachments. We just spoke about that we're both engaged. No, it's this ring. I met your lovely fiance, and for me, when I was single and didn't have didn't have that much, in a sense, like I was a starving actor and I I didn't have that much to let go of. But now I feel I do. I'm so happy where I am, and you're happy like so how do you free yourself of that attachment when I'm where I want to be? Have a great job. I have someone I love. How do you let go of that attachment?

Kyle Cease 32:53

Well, it's, it's, it's not that it's easy to let go as much as it's easy to just be at a higher frequency that has to purge it out, right? In other words, so you're, you're only this moment right now. So instead of trying to lose attachment to a thing, I even let go of the one that's attached to the thing, right? So the more I'm in this now, like I'm just here, there's no other me, there's no even history, like I get there is a history, but I can't physically go to it. I can't go see my past may or anything like that. I can just watch videos. But it doesn't exist, like it doesn't exist. I'm just now. And so one way is to get really connected to this space that you are. Because the longer you listen to silence and just be, the more you start to realize there's like a character that's in the past, in the future, that's attached to things, that's escaping this moment, and then you realize it's just scared that if it's seen, it won't be loved. And more and more, as I sit and listen, it starts to just come to light, and then it dissolves. And I find by listening to silence and meditating, I'm becoming a portal that is so connected to the now that it goes okay, this no longer has to be here. So basically, to get rid of being in third grade, you have to go to fourth grade versus staying a third grader trying to get rid of yourself. So the more you go up in vibration by getting closer and closer to what's true, what's here is true, everything you're anticipating isn't true. It's ironic to me, because people call their world that's really delusional the real world. Like people come to my events and they go, that's great, Kyle, but when we're done with these events, what happens when I go back to the real world? And the real world to you is when you sit on the couch and worry about anything that could happen, that isn't happening. That's actually fantasy. What's actually happening right now is what's real. My heart's beating. There's a space around me. I'm just here, right there's nothing else. This is the real world. It's not the airy fairy world, the fantasy of all the going broke and the world falling apart. It's. That's the airy fairy world, like it's all backwards, right? And so we're the real world. This is real. We're connected to source. You're here. A lot of what you think is wrong isn't wrong. And you know, everything's healing itself. We're just now. That's the only thing true. So the more you connect to that, the more attachments have to leave because they're not based in reality.

Jannecke Øinæs 35:22

I saw beautiful video with you. I think you made it a few weeks ago, or maybe longer, I don't know, but you spoke about this year, and also trusting, that's what I took from it, trusting the divine, trusting, you call it God or the universe, that it has taken care of us. We don't need to control so much. And I'm curious about that I'm practicing that surrendering, because I am actually a control freak, and that has become really apparent to me, that I need to control things, and that force is so, so powerful, like I want to have control, and which is linked to fear again. And I am curious to how we can develop this, this trust to the Divine that I'm taking care of, like things will happen for me. I don't have to do so much, because we are human beings who have a physical body, like we can meditate and meditate, but I couldn't meditate myself to 600 episodes. I had to do them, right? Yeah, so sort of where is that intersection between this doing part and the surrendering part and just letting life give you abundance?

Kyle Cease 36:36

There's two types of doing, and one is the one we're used to doing, and it isn't working anymore. And then there's the guided doing, right? So let me explain, like, when people are like, I gotta do something, like, in that vibration, like, I gotta get this company started. I gotta write my book. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta move. I gotta, whatever it is you can feel, there's an energy of fear under it, like, I'll say to a client, okay, if you don't build this company, what happens? And you'll almost always hear a fear, like, I'm not enough, then I'm a failure, like my dad said. Then it's always a childhood thing. Always like people think they're scared of being broke. They're scared of like their dad, saying, I told you, so again, they're scared of being like their parents. They're scared of not having a belief system. They learned with their parents, like money is the root of all evil, or something like you're it's not ever that thing you're scared of, right? And so when people have a doing that's like, we got to make this happen, they'll notice right now that it comes from a fix that usually a couple days later, you're going to have an energy go. You know what? I don't know that this is it, because it's it's based on fear. So it's not true right now, I've also had many times that I just listen and meditate and then a guided thing comes for through. For instance, about four months ago, I had a guided idea for a sketch that was like, if road rage people, people road raging, were self aware, and so I thought, what if I make this sketch? And it was just funny to me. It just showed up. Now it was irrelevant to my career. To me, it was not something that I was thinking, what's the next step with my career? Was just a funny, fun idea. So we shot it. I just grabbed some friends, my buddy, JP Sears, and bunch other people, we shot the sketch, and it was so funny, and we put it out, and we put it on Instagram, and I mentioned at the very end, like you, life would be very different if you were aware, because, you know, people that road rage are screaming at each other, but what if they were all aware and spiritually connected? So it's, it's one guy yelling at the other guy, like, I should be somewhere else right now. I believe, because I'm under the illusion, somewhere is better than now. And you know, we're just sitting here owning ourselves while screaming at each other. It's very funny. And then the point at the end of the sketch is, you know, life would be different with a lot of awareness. Meditate that video. I wasn't even thinking of necessarily as like, hey, this will be what my career is. I was just like, it's a funny sketch. We put it out on my Instagram. I got 3 million views, and we have been selling meditation bundles for $20 like bundles of five meditations that are so awesome that I decided to make it cost almost nothing. And we put it out, and we've been selling 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of them. Now. This was a guided thing that was out of the realm of my egos. What do I do? Because the ego has a very small lens of what do I do? It would not follow guided things, because those things are in the way of me getting things done so that I'm not a failure. To my dad in 1982 you get what I'm saying. And so the one going, what do I do is a trauma thing that's looking through a very small lens and not open to million dollar ideas trying to happen or next steps or things that are way more effortless, like there's ways that it's like going, I'm going to take all effort away, give you something that's fun as hell, and it'll do 10 times the sales and success that your what do I do will do? So there's a guy. Excited. What do I do that's trying to happen that almost all of us are missing, right? And as a side note, I felt like mentioning the part of you that said, like that there's so much on you, like, the pressure on you. There was something you said in that question about, like, we have to do it. I gotta say one thing I want to point out is old spiritual self help is partly to blame for this,

Jannecke Øinæs 40:24

right? Yeah, all the things you have to do, yeah, to be spiritual.

Kyle Cease 40:28

Well, I'm going to just show you a couple concepts that like, really I'm starting to call out as the shit that have that maybe helped at one point, but there's a real shadow to them that I can explain. Now, I had a client the other day. I do a lot of one on ones. I love doing one on ones. And I had a woman that was working with me, and she fell on Ice A week before that. She stood on a step, and there was ice there, and she slipped, and she said, I'm trying to figure out why the universe brought me this. And I said, just so, you know, I think a lot of people that would step on that step would just fall like, what if we don't do this? What is this mean thing? And then this opened the door to her going, what if it's just a fluke, that I had crappy parents, versus this thing where we said kids chose their parents before birth, right? And I said, because she has spent six she's 67 she has spent 67 years of her life pretty much trying to figure out why she manifested abusive parents, and it was only her fault to her, until this one on one, I said, What if you didn't choose your parents? What if you just had crappy parents? And I watched her release everything because the spiritual idea that you have to figure out what this is for and everything that helps at one level, but at one level, it's now you can't let go of it, because you're trying to figure out how to reincarnate through this and your spiritual reason and life is going. How about we let go of that concept? How about we let go of that kids chose their parents, and maybe you just had crappy parents. And I had her just say, I just had crappy parents, and I didn't choose them, and she just started releasing everything. And I think that our 1990s and 2000 self help was really necessary for that time. And now I'm seeing shadows to it, left and right. Here's another example. Wayne Dyer did a great thing back in the past about don't die with your music left in you, like you got to get your music out. That's great. And now I have an influx of clients who are people that are scared they're wasting their life and are not doing enough, and they're they didn't get their book out or their voice out, and and they believe they can waste their life because of that old thing, right? And so I had them say their deepest fear, you're allowed to waste your life in my body. And then they all start crying and releasing that you don't have a wasted life at all. You have the life that your ego thought would not be a wasted life, and you've put this warden in your head that's making you feel shame a bunch through self help now. And so your life is never wasted. It's exactly what it needs to be, and you don't need to get your voice out. It just needs to be heard in you. And so they're sitting there trying to get all the stuff out, and it's failing because it's out of fear again. And I have them just hear the one that says, I'm scared I'll waste my life, and you start to realize that content was amazing, but it actually almost brought up the same spiritual version of what their childhood fears were, which would be a parent saying, don't waste your life and become a doctor. And not we need to hear what you are, but you have to be what I say. And I believe we're moving to a time where we need to hear what's here. That's the most amazing way to not waste your life, is hear what's inside. You don't have to express everything also, like everyone's like, getting these guided things, and then they're just posting it on Instagram all the time, and it's like, God's going, No, I'm talking to you like you don't have repeat it to everyone else, and then they share it. No one lives, and we're just all sharing quotes. No one's doing anything like,

Jannecke Øinæs 44:07

I love that. Yeah, I get what you mean. And sometimes I'm wondering, because I've been on this path for a long, long time, and I've been walking those steps, and I can look at my former self and think, Okay, I was in the spiritual ego a lot at that time. I remember that phase where I had ereka, I've been out of my body. I want everybody to be able to go out to their bodies to realize what I realized. And this and that, oh, that was a spiritual ego. And then the next thing with the twin soul. And, oh, I got it. This is a twin soul relationship, and today I'm not interested in whether my boyfriend is a twin soul or soul mate. I I think he's a soul mate. But it doesn't really matter if it's a karmic or I just know there's a connection there. I just feel like I feel. But, and I'm wondering if maybe I had to go through all those stages, and that younger people now are sort of jumping over them, that they're awakening up much faster, because everything is happening faster so and I've also met these spiritual paradoxes, which is interesting, but I've come to embrace that as well. Like there are spiritual paradoxes, and they exist at the same time, and I cannot comprehend, comprehend it with my mind, but I love what you're saying, and I think whatever works sometimes, like, if this doesn't work, we'll try to shift it and see if that works, because we can stuck in a lot of like, spiritual teachings and then misinterpret it. Then, like you're saying everything just is really,

Kyle Cease 45:49

everything is. Imagine life without all the meanings. Like, why did that happen? Do you notice? Why did that happen to me? Keeps it here, right? Like, why did that negative thing happen to me? Now we're back holding it again through. Why did it happen to me? Right? Like, what? What is this trying to teach me that is good at one level, if you're in a total victim level, that stuff is great, but at one level, you realize it's like the pole and pole vaulting. You need it to get up in the air, and then you have to let go of it,

Jannecke Øinæs 46:19

right? You know, I wanted to ask you something. I'll make a big jump, because I think a lot of especially people spiritually oriented, are a bit curious about this. Because my perception is that a lot of people who are therapists or spiritual teachers or light workers, if we should label it, that they want to bring harmony to the world. They, many of them, are struggling with money because they might have this belief that I cannot make too much money on this because I should be of service. And you have read the book illusion of money, could you say? And I love the subtitles, why chasing money is stopping you away from receiving it. Yes, so could you share a little bit about that, how we can open up to abundance and still be in the heart?

Kyle Cease 47:12

One reason that when you said Lightworkers are doing this, they have money issues and stuff like that, is because sometimes lightworker is also just people pleaser with spiritual clothing that everyone's got to hold space for everyone else, and they got to shift everyone else. And it's all a desire for connection, because you're scared to feel alone. And so even though there's a lot of people offering their gift as an amazing service to the world, there's also a part of us that's just totally please see me. Look at me being spiritual. Watch me teach you this. Do I have a big audience and all that stuff, and I've been a part of that, like I've had that too, right? But one of the things that a lot of people that are people pleasers have a problem with is receiving, and so they they don't they're scared to receive because God's trying to work directly with you. And the second God gives you a message, you a message. You give it to everyone else and tell them, I just learned this. And, and it's like direct receiving that doesn't necessarily always constantly get everyone else to see you. And, and there's a service to others that actually is service to self, meaning, like, I'm look at me being here for everyone else. Aren't I in service to others, Yeah, but you're not receiving so you have a totally empty cup, and you're just offering a very limited lesson, and you're not moving yourself up in an even frequency. So now you're just people pleasing and depleted. And it's the same pattern that always was dating a narcissist in the first place. Because you're a constant giver, you're attracting a taker, right? So these people get these gifts and these callings, and then the first thing they do is they want everyone else to hear it, but they haven't implemented it in themselves. And they're like feeling this kind of incomplete, excited about the message, but not the self that they are that delivers it. And so they're just offering this thing, and they're depleted, and that's exactly the same, but in spiritual clothing of being in a relationship with a narcissist. You're just not receiving and because you don't ever work on what you feel, you're going to find a partner that also doesn't care about what you feel. It's time for us to see the inner child that needs the world to hear your message, because the one that's like, please see me is probably scared of being abandoned when you were five. Again, the one that's offering the message and has to get it out to everyone. There might be a level of you not hearing yourself. And I think that a lot of the spiritual world is just a ton of people with a lot of messages that have no depth, like a that have a a growth available of how much they could connect to themselves, right? And so we're all like, the amount of people I work with that are even amazing speakers and known people that I'm like. So what do you feel about it? And they'll say, like, I just feel everyone needs to know this. What do you feel? I feel like everyone won't believe this, or whatever. And I take them to their moments and their child and go, What did you feel that? What did you feel when your dad, blah, blah, blah. Will be like my dad did the best he could. I know spiritually, that's true, but you're using it to bury what you are and you feel. So there is a whole world of us using spirituality, ironically, to avoid connecting to our inner child, and our job now is to also hear what's in here, because the world, I believe, more and more mirrors you. So the more you connect to you, the more that this thing will fall apart, that needs everyone else to see it, because you're going to create a world that mirrors that you saw it, right? So it's still a constant. I need everyone to know this. And it's a funny thing, because when you have a world of people that want to change the world, you'll realize everyone has a different world, though. Ask a Democrat and a Republican what a changed world would look like. You start to realize changing the world is narcissism. Like you're you're wanting to change the world so you don't have to change you. You're wanting to get everyone else to shift so you don't have to change you. You're like you deal with this message, not me. And so we all have it. I mean, I have it tons. I'll be offering people and then realize I need to implement that in me. That whole thing was for me, right? But now we're in a time where the light workers have to see their trauma patterns too, and their light work will be very different when because you're also a part of the world that you want to heal. So the amount of light workers that are trying to help everyone but themselves, right, is is through the roof. So the illusion of money is why chasing money is stopping you from receiving it. If you're chasing money, you're saying it completes me. Not I'm complete. This cause causes money to always be in a place of lack because that's the match to where you're at when we start to realize that every dollar you've ever made came from you. Really take that in, every dollar you've ever made came from you. So be excited about you, not money. Money, you know, didn't manifest you, but you manifested money. And you know, there's a space here that has million dollar ideas that we want to get connected to, the space and the source of where money came from, not money itself. And an example I use in the book is imagine, imagine Jannecke, you and I are lost in the forest, and I round a corner, and you don't know where I am. And imagine that I find a huge waterfall, right? And I grab a cup, and I fill the cup with the from the waterfall. I fill it with water. I come to you, and I go, look what I found, a cup of water. But I don't mention the waterfall, you'd see a very limited supply of water. You'd see it in the cup. You'd see only this much. So you'd think of it in terms of limitation. You'd be like, How much water do we have? Do we have enough to pay water rent? Should we can't donate any water because we don't have enough? But if you understood that it's an unlimited supply, you'd move very differently. And you'd move as if it's an unlimited supply, and then it becomes an unlimited supply, right? So when we're still thinking of ourselves as limited, but money as our source of abundance, you're saying it's bigger than me. So God has to remove it from you to get you connected to the true source of your abundance, which is you. So everyone that's worried about losing money, God has to take the money away from them so they can see that they're still alive without it, you got to get to a place where you get the only source of abundance is you, and you connect to you by receiving the now, by receiving the space here, by connecting to it, being with it enough that you start to realize it was my mind that's attracted to money, not me. My soul is enough, whether I have it or not. And now you start to see money very differently. Imagine you're on a date with money, and imagine how you think of money, if you were talking to money, and if you were money on a date with you, would you want to keep being with you if you think of money as the root of all evil, if you think of money as it's never enough, it needs to be more. Now, imagine being on a date with someone who says you're never enough, or you're the root of all evil. Would you want to go on a second date? The answer is no. Money is hearing it's not enough. It's you're you know, I can never get enough of you. I want to use you to get other people to like me. I'm a failure without you, you know, like these things, no one would want to date someone that says I'm going to use you to get someone to like me. I'm a failure without you, all, you know. And so we got to look at how we see money. Imagine what you want on a day you want someone to tell you you're perfect as you are. So even if you're $20,000 in debt, it's perfect. We start there. I We're here to learn love. I love you even if your debt now we're getting power. I love you even if I have none of you now we're like, I don't need you. Want to date someone that doesn't necessarily will fall apart without you. You want someone that is connected to themselves and loves you. So we want to be that with money. I don't need you. I love you. Now we're at a vibration of receiving that's worth so much more money as a byproduct. Is that making sense?

Jannecke Øinæs 54:57

Yeah, I've had my own. Journey with that, being a starving actor and then going to a course that changed everything, and I changed a lot of my beliefs, and I'm a bit passionate about it, because it made such a difference in my own life. When I looked at those beliefs and how I sort of wanted to be there, it was a part of me that felt safe in that starving actor belief. And when, when I started to let go that it was so liberating, and it was also a fear that, Oh, does spirituality go together with money? And when I started also to look into that and let go of that and go into the abundance mindset, things started to change with Wisdom From North and the life I live today is just so much more freedom, and I can create much more. But I still think that there are some old beliefs collectively that are influencing us and that others might hold the opinion that these things don't go together, but that's again, opinion of others, but, but have you,

Kyle Cease 56:09

if they believe that, they'll make sure that happens, that money doesn't ever show up, if they're doing spiritual work, like, like, if I say, Well, just so you know, like, Eckhart Tolle made a ton of makes a lot of money, Like, you know, and people watching this might get triggered by that. If you are notice that, notice if you think that someone else shouldn't make money if they're doing spirituality, because you have only that rule on yourself, right? And so you're creating a paradigm that someone else shouldn't make money through spiritual work. I, you know, I put out those meditations that are 20 bucks, and it's the most valuable thing I feel like that I've ever done, and it costs almost nothing. But still, every once while, you get someone that's like, if you're a spiritual speaker, why do you charge money? It's like, because I don't believe they're, they're mutual they're they're mutually exclusive. They're you, what I'm offering, I feel is worth so much more than Pepsi or something that is ruining your teeth, or, you know, a bunch of beer that sells like, no one asks the beer companies. You're just doing that to make money and poison the world like, like, at least, this is making money, but also is raising the consciousness of the world. You know what I mean, like. So people in the spiritual world should stop limiting themselves to think that they don't deserve money if they're offering spirituality, like, what you're offering is worth more than any product. I think, like, it's actually the most necessary thing. It changes the consciousness of the planet. You know, I watch, I watch one on ones that I do, I do one on ones for like, there's there used to be 2700 but I wanted to do more. I had more people that wanted I lowered the price to do a one on one for 799 and people sometimes go, oh, I can't believe you charge. I was like, dude, one changes the entire course of your life. Like, watch YouTube and watch these people shift. We are and I'm in demand. Like, did you have you decided I should be $20 for a one on one, like I'm gonna charge what I'm worth, and I'm worth a lot, and what I offer will change your life, right? So it's a weird thing how people just think when I'm sorry I'm offering this dude, then don't offer it then, or get behind it and receive that. What your time is worth, what your energy is worth. What God's doing through you is worth something you're cutting off God's gift. The gift you're offering isn't even for you. God's like, I'm giving this through you, and we're sitting here like stifling it, no, and I can't charge and all this stuff. It's like, dude, own your power. Own your

Jannecke Øinæs 58:37

I think that's part of the paradigm shift as well. And I think that's a game changer that that is also we spoke about the old spiritual way that is also changing. And I think it's really empowering to talk about in it to learn and discover that, oh, I can be abundant and I can also be spiritual. It was actually T Hart Ecker that have this Millionaire Mind, that that really opened my mind to this, where he talked about the conditioning, the verbal conditioning, how we've been conditioned as young to believe that money is the root of all evil. And that I discovered, oh, my goodness, I have these beliefs myself, and it's just beliefs. You know, it's just mind clutter is it's not real, and I can change that. And then I, of course, like you said, I want this message to come across, because I think it's so empowering for more people to also let go of these beliefs so they can have abundant lives. Because I think that's our natural state, like you're saying this, this beautiful lake of water. I mean, it is available for all of us. And yes, we open up to receive, like that beautiful video you made on YouTube that this is the time of receiving. So I see we need to wrap up things. But could you speak a little bit about this time, what are you believing is happening now in these times?

Kyle Cease 1:00:05

Oh my god. It's so awesome. It's, it's so great, if you know what's going on, as hell if you don't. But it's, it's awesome. So I believe 2025, is it's almost like just light is showing up so bright that that both inside and outside, everything that's not true is coming to light, and people are almost split into two types of people now, where there are people that have stuff inside that they don't want to come to light, whether it's a past story or a secret or whatever, an identity that's a false identity, a past you, whatever. And so they're they. They're having to hold it because they think that thing is you, but we can release everything. Just release it. Don't hold these things, right? If you understand what's going on, you're bringing this all to light. You're volunteering and sharing what you truly are. So you're either moving more and more into releasing trauma in your body and also the universe is like bringing to light government problems bringing to light child trafficking has been happening like the Think positive world has been nice, but it's been on a bed of really dark under stuff, right? I'm just going to think positive, even though, deep down, I have never transcended that I was abused as a child. I'm going to just be positive even though the world has trafficking going on in war zones and starvation all over the place. Okay, thinking positive is nice. There is something nice, and it can change a lot of the world. But a lot of us are thinking positive because inside of us is a bunch of trauma that they're trying to escape with their mind, and the light is getting so big that they can't use their mind to escape the stuff that's inside. So we're finally looking at those deep moments in childhood where a parent walked out, or someone said something to you that you didn't like, and it hit something and created a false character that has done everything it can to never feel that again, that is dying in this time, and the trauma that's in our body is ready to come to light, to make this amazing. Our job is to get very present. Our job is to be here. Our job is to listen to what's here. It's about listening. Don't distract with your screen too much. Don't it's ironic when you go on Instagram and it's full of positive quotes, but you're looking there versus here, right? Like and it's our job to go here, what's here. And so time alone, time with nature, time just sitting, or if you're with someone, talking about what's here, right? Like really being present to like getting it out and making a purpose. This stuff is leaving, whether you like it or not, but you're you could really suffer and go down with it a lot. Or you could just be present to what's here and what life's going to create is a life that isn't based on that. You are what you do anymore. You are what you are. These are very different. A lot of people are just going, what do I do, even when they meditate, what do I do? What do I do about this? What do I do to make money? What do I do to get people to like me? That Doer was created out of trauma. Instead, we're going to say, what's here, or what am I? And that's only a question that puts you in the now. What do I do is always in the future which doesn't exist, right? So every time you ask, What do I do, you're just arguing with the now and escaping with a fantasy of the future that doesn't exist. If you instead move to what's here, you could say, oh, there's some pain here. There's some fear here. You don't even need to say what it's scared of, because then we focus on that. We want to focus on the inner child in you that's never, ever been seen, and one of the ways it's never been seen is by seeing everyone else but not yourself, right? That's That's spiritual people really had often narcissistic parents, and so they learned to see everyone else out of trauma and not getting hurt. Figure out what your dad feels so he doesn't spank you. Is a lot different than you know, being present because you care about what they feel. This is it's it's all, it's all a life saving mechanism, posed as as empathy, right? And we're here to go what's here and what's in here is a scared little boy or a scared little girl that's scared the world is going to hurt them. And we want to become the parent that they never had. We want to become the space to hear them and say you're allowed to feel scared now they know they're loved if they're scared. And then they alchemize. Does that make sense? So So these patterns are leaving in this time, and if you keep being the what do I do? It's going to be a lot of suffering if you get present for what's here every day is going to be a whole different dimension. It's a new dimension. Each day, if you're present, you'll cry no trauma or release old stuff and be lighter and lighter and lighter and more and more. You're not the child of your parents. You're God's kid. You're the now's kid. You'll still be their kid, but not identified as it, and not moving within the realm of their egoic limitations. You're now God's kid, and you're this infinite. Magical being that's amazing, happens to be worth a ton of money, will have guided ideas next steps, and God will make things happen for you a million times faster than you ever could alone in your ego.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:05:14

Oh, that was so inspiring and powerful. Wow. Um, I have a few questions I ask all my guests, and the first one is, what is self love to you Kyle,

Kyle Cease 1:05:25

the now, that's it. In other words, hearing what's here is love. We think of love as a high, like falling in love, or, you know, getting someone to like you, or, you know, feeling addicted to it, you'll notice that love is conditional. It's on one person versus yourself, or it's on one person versus what is it's on all these different things. If you have that kind of love, you have what I call jackpot high, which is like, if you're in a casino and you hit jackpot, you feel so high. Well, there's a reason those people often stay in the casino the next day and lose all their money, because now that they got that high they want that high love, so they stay playing the slot machine, and then everything's low and they lose their money. So the one that is going, you're the answer to my life later will fall apart. Love is the now, the now Love is not a high love. It's a here love. And the here. Love loves everything. You'll notice there's less story in the now. There's less attachment in the now. You're loved in this now, and it's a zero point love that loves all of you. It doesn't just love the positive things, it also loves the negative things. And by loving the negative things, they heal and go away. So the now is self, love to me, it's just love. There isn't a self.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:06:46

And what is the deeper meaning of life from your perspective?

Kyle Cease 1:06:50

For me, the number one intention I have on this planet, a lot of people have to change lives, or to sell a million books or to affect people. To me, the answer to life, the deep meaning that I have right now is to know what I truly am. That's the highest desire that I have. Like a lot of you know, instead of being like I want to change something, I find that things change much quicker. Anyway, by me using everything that seems positive or negative to get me closer to the truth of what I am. So if it's positive, that means I'm moving closer to what I truly am. And if it's negative, that's showing me what no longer serves me and moving me closer to what I truly am. So everything that's happening in my life, good or bad is moving me closer to what I truly am. But if you have an intention of I have to make a million dollars, then everything good or bad might not move you towards that intention. It might be in the way of your intention. So we stop. So then we're on an agenda, right? But when your intention is to know what you truly are, there's no agenda. You're just watching life get you closer to the now you so that, to me, is the highest meaning of life right now, knowing that and then bringing that to the world.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:08:03

Where can people find you, if they want to connect, follow you, work with you?

Kyle Cease 1:08:07

Yes. Well, there's a lot of amazing things we have. The thing that I love, that I've done recently so much was I heard the universe tell me make my things cost almost nothing, right? And said, make things so cheap right now. So I had products that were like $1,000 like entrepreneurial products and everything. And I've made everything of mine that's a product or a course, $20 I'm talking these were hundreds of dollars, 1000s dollars. Now I just enjoy not creating any hurdle so that everyone can get it, or as many people as possible. So a thing I did recently was I made a guided meditation bundle of five different meditations that are all 45 minutes to an hour long. There's a meditation on health, there's one on relationships, there's one on releasing, there's one on loneliness, and there's a general meditation. And we just decided, instead of making it a couple 100 bucks to make it $20 and they can get that at Kylecease.com/products and there's also all of our other products that used to be 1000s are now 20 bucks there too. And there's also our absolutely everything Pass, which is our our monthly pass that it's like, I do a live talk on Sunday and I do a live guided meditation there. I do a Wednesday night call. We have hot seats where I shift people in front of everybody. There's 1000s of people on it. It's amazing, and we might be making starting in May, our last year of it. But they can get that also, I believe, at Kylecease.com/products, but it might also be that's Kylecease.com/everything, or maybe it's absolutelyeverything.tv here, here's an edit for you, and they can get that at absolutelyeverything.tv but it'll it's life changing. People shift from. It's so awesome.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:00

And of course, you have your YouTube channel sharing amazing wisdom there, where I would be watching

Kyle Cease 1:10:08

they can they can go to Instagram at evolving out loud is my Instagram thing, and then they can go to YouTube/ KyleCease so I put out a new YouTube video every week, and there's probably 600 on there, and you can watch me like work with the trauma therapist is a very recent video, right? And I do a monthly thing and all kinds of stuff. So please go to, yeah, first go to YouTube video and just subscribe to that channel.

Jannecke Øinæs 1:10:32

Super inspiring to have you on the show. This was so empowering and interesting and deep Kyle, so I was thrilled having you here. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Kyle Cease 1:10:42

No, I'm honored to be with you. You have a great show going, and it's fun to watch you. And I didn't realize we were scheduled. I was telling you I didn't know we were scheduled. And I saw a podcast you did, like, a week or two ago, and thought, oh, I want to get on our podcast. And no idea we were already doing it. So I sincerely found you a week ago myself and thought, oh, this would be great. And had no idea we were on the schedule. So I love it.